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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC4 400/610/640 & 690 => Topic started by: Dakar wanabe on January 12, 2013, 11:06:25 am

Title: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dakar wanabe on January 12, 2013, 11:06:25 am
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

Regards
Gawie
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Road Hog on January 12, 2013, 02:49:31 pm
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

Regards
Gawie

Try KTM Cape Town for the Oryx
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: 777 on January 12, 2013, 07:03:49 pm
Agree KTM CT
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Robski on January 16, 2013, 07:31:01 pm
Yup, put my deposit down for the Oryx RS. I'm nervous. Not for the ride, but the amount I'm spending on it  :eek7:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: LONG BOB on January 18, 2013, 01:36:47 pm
WORTH IT ! ORDER NEW UNDER PANTS SAME TIME, YOUR BONER WILL STRETCH YOUR OLD ONES
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Robski on January 18, 2013, 02:13:25 pm
WORTH IT ! ORDER NEW UNDER PANTS SAME TIME, YOUR BONER WILL STRETCH YOUR OLD ONES

 :laughing4:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on January 18, 2013, 02:19:30 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 18, 2013, 02:23:29 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on January 18, 2013, 02:24:16 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km

That's what I was looking for thanks. Don't like the big single tank
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 18, 2013, 03:01:00 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km

That's what I was looking for thanks. Don't like the big single tank




Rally Raid is about to launch their 2nd generation tanks - narrower than the old ones but ain't cheap  :o

http://www.ktmtwins.com/rally-raid-ktm-690-enduro-evo-2-auxiliary-9-5-liter-tank-kit (http://www.ktmtwins.com/rally-raid-ktm-690-enduro-evo-2-auxiliary-9-5-liter-tank-kit)

what I really like about teh RR stuff is that they come with KTM mounts and bits and it is all plug and play
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Road Hog on January 18, 2013, 04:50:35 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Robski on January 18, 2013, 04:55:20 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Good question. Im hoping for an answer saying 'I've done 60 000km and still going strong'
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Road Hog on January 18, 2013, 05:01:12 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Good question. Im hoping for an answer saying 'I've done 60 000km and still going strong'

I've read about guys with BMW's, AT's, Gussi's, DR's, XR do km's in excess of 100000km's, but have read any such info on the 690. I've heard it is a high performance engine, which makes me worried. The boner in your old or new under pants might be short lived....???
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on January 19, 2013, 12:55:36 pm
http://www.motorradonline.de/dauertests/dauertest-abschlussbilanz-ktm-690-sm/269735

use Google translate

Seems like higher mileage should not be an issue
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Robski on January 19, 2013, 01:01:15 pm
http://www.motorradonline.de/dauertests/dauertest-abschlussbilanz-ktm-690-sm/269735

use Google translate

Seems like higher mileage should not be an issue


 :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on January 19, 2013, 01:27:35 pm
Snipit from the article

"Translated from german"

Survival is the keyword for the drive. After 50,000 kilometers with daily use of themost powerful production single in the world we were surprised with polished, handsome inner values: Except for a few scratches in the cylinder and light pitting on the gears of the fourth and sixth gear, the 690 shows virtually unaffected by the mileage. The cause for the final assessment traveled KTM technician explained the formation of the grooves due to foreign particles, which are likely to reach for maintenance through the air filter and the intake into the combustion chamber. The rebuilding of the engine would cost around 500 euros: (R6000) an engine gasket set, new piston rings, cylinder fine honing, grind valve seats and six hours to 50 euro (R3500) Then, they predict, would be the power single ready for the next 50,000 km. The chassis appears as robust. Wheel, steering head and swingarm bearings are fine, the coating of the frame and the attachments is presented perfectly, but somewhat lackluster. Only the clutch lever is badly corroded. This one has spared the KTM basically never. . She was tortured for long stretches of motorway, cruising and herded through the Alps, had to pass through two winters, means more islands circle and swim with editors and graphic designers from the daily stop-and-go traffic, what no one thought at the beginning, has occurred: Before years, such a joke, the abbreviation KTM stood for either "No one thousand meters" or "kick ten minutes." In the new 690 engine, it stands for "Hardly technical flaws."


Seems like good news, After 50 000ks spend around R10k and do another 50 000ks!!!! :ricky:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rolling Stone on January 19, 2013, 04:15:55 pm
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

Regards
Gawie
Gawie
If you are not too tall, you should consider a low mileage 690 enduro. Has 50mm less travel but at least you are in controll in the technical stuff.  Seat is still slightly higher than my WR450 when I am sitting on it so I expect the 690R to be relatively high. Close to 950/990/HP2
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on January 22, 2013, 01:19:13 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on January 22, 2013, 01:54:09 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: GJ on January 23, 2013, 12:33:18 am
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems


Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Road Hog on January 23, 2013, 07:11:57 am
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems




The problems seems to be after 30000km if I interpret the above correctly
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on January 23, 2013, 07:58:29 am
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems




You sold it and bought another one with less mileage on it; didn't you?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: cocky on January 23, 2013, 08:03:31 am
Spoke to a friend about his 690, done over 40 000kms with no issues, including a Namibia and Angola trip. He rides the balls off his bike with no issues, so in my view, KAK story about engine life.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: NumNum on April 08, 2013, 08:10:51 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

Dwerg, mine looks different from when you last rode it! Rally-raid tanks fitted, get between 380 and 450 km between fills depending on the right hand :3some:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on April 09, 2013, 06:38:42 am
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

Dwerg, mine looks different from when you last rode it! Rally-raid tanks fitted, get between 380 and 450 km between fills depending on the right hand :3some:

Nice  :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: WP on April 09, 2013, 03:06:46 pm
So my itch has started...
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: uncaged on April 11, 2013, 12:45:12 pm
 :happy1:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Berg Man on April 11, 2013, 03:18:42 pm
I still like the 690. Despite what many say, I think it would be a great bike for me.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on April 15, 2013, 02:54:40 pm
a ride to the shops and back on my 690 leaves me grinning like a loon,
no matter how hard I try no ride ends without at least 4 wheelies and at least one major jump from a pavement or sandy hill.
I get off after 5ks and my hands shake like a meth addict needing a fix! I just look at her now and the adrenalin starts to flow.

Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Sat Diver on April 16, 2013, 10:23:21 am
 Juls I could not have put it any better!!!
That's exactly what it feels like to own one
I'm 7000 miles away from mine at the moment,
Just looked over some pics of a recent solo trip to Lesotho
And my whole body is quivering.
Need that fix?!.....Boy do I ever!
 :ricky:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: LONG BOB on August 26, 2013, 04:08:22 pm
I ride mine every day as a work horse, done 27 thousand k and still sweet, eish if you don't test the power band when overtaking then get a klr. Rod Grey at Alfi recons 60th k should;nt be a problem.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Operator on August 26, 2013, 04:22:01 pm
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Ganjora on August 26, 2013, 04:55:20 pm
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?

5000rpm
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Pom17 on August 26, 2013, 05:22:56 pm
So my itch has started...

Been scratched yet?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on August 27, 2013, 09:27:46 am
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on August 27, 2013, 09:32:35 am
So my itch has started...

Been scratched yet?

Hy het die 690 terug gegee en 'n husky terra gekry  :eek7:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Ganjora on August 27, 2013, 09:50:01 am
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,

the acceleration from 4500rpm is pretty wild - and mine cannot go full throttle,  or past 6000rpm yet.
cannot wait till she's run in...
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rascal on August 27, 2013, 09:58:50 am
stop guessing, go ride one and decide, jy sal nie spyt wees nie.

Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: RedWolf on August 27, 2013, 10:01:38 am
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
We did that test with my ex super enduro and a friends 690. The SE won, but surprisingly not by a lot. That day the 690 impressed me a lot..
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on August 27, 2013, 10:23:19 am
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
We did that test with my ex super enduro and a friends 690. The SE won, but surprisingly not by a lot. That day the 690 impressed me a lot..
Pre 2012 690?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: RedWolf on August 27, 2013, 11:42:27 am
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
We did that test with my ex super enduro and a friends 690. The SE won, but surprisingly not by a lot. That day the 690 impressed me a lot..
Pre 2012 690?

No, it was a 2013 model.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Pom17 on August 27, 2013, 12:08:30 pm
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
We did that test with my ex super enduro and a friends 690. The SE won, but surprisingly not by a lot. That day the 690 impressed me a lot..
Pre 2012 690?

No, it was a 2013 model.

That's impressive :o

So I guess from stand still or even a running start the 690 will also be close to the 950 SE due to its weight?

If it accelerates like that then I suppose it would even be easier to get the front up on the 690 compared to the SE?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Ganjora on August 27, 2013, 12:09:48 pm
If it accelerates like that then I suppose it would even be easier to get the front up on the 690 compared to the SE?

the front wheel is so light,  it comes up on it's own while parked in the garage WITHOUT keys in the ignition.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Pom17 on August 27, 2013, 12:15:40 pm
If it accelerates like that then I suppose it would even be easier to get the front up on the 690 compared to the SE?

the front wheel is so light,  it comes up on it's own while parked in the garage WITHOUT keys in the ignition.


 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Fokken grapgat :imaposer:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Jules on August 27, 2013, 02:51:50 pm
If it accelerates like that then I suppose it would even be easier to get the front up on the 690 compared to the SE?

the front wheel is so light,  it comes up on it's own while parked in the garage WITHOUT keys in the ignition.


Now you know why I use tie downs on the bike in the garage at night!   :imaposer:

Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: NumNum on September 19, 2013, 05:54:24 pm
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km

That's what I was looking for thanks. Don't like the big single tank
.....
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: stan1975 on September 19, 2013, 05:56:19 pm
It's worth it... like all motorcycles are
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on September 23, 2013, 11:09:37 am
Can somebody please tell me at what revs the 690 motor is running when
cruising in top gear at around 120 km/h ?
I Still want to do a side by test against a 990 and 1200
acceleration run from 120 to 160.
I think the 690 will smoke them both,
We did that test with my ex super enduro and a friends 690. The SE won, but surprisingly not by a lot. That day the 690 impressed me a lot..

I would like to see a 690 stay anywhere near my SE on a tar or gravel road; maybe on technical dirt.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on September 25, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
just for shits and giggles

http://www.bikeexif.com/ktm-690-enduro-r (http://www.bikeexif.com/ktm-690-enduro-r)

Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Bill the Bong on September 30, 2013, 07:53:22 am
I've dragged raced against a friend on tar.  He was on a F800GS.  He had Anakees on, I was on knobs.  In every gear he pulled 1 bike length away from me.  When we hit 4th, he had 4 lengths on me.  I actually thought that was OK, the 690 has a low rev limit and wheelies a bit to easy.

On dirt, my KTM 250 SX-F totally destroys my 690 during roll-on runs. Lack of traction and the fact that the 250 revs to 13000 rpm vs the 690's 7800 seems to be the main issues here.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: silentbob on September 30, 2013, 08:37:04 am
I've dragged raced against a friend on tar.  He was on a F800GS.  He had Anakees on, I was on knobs.  In every gear he pulled 1 bike length away from me.  When we hit 4th, he had 4 lengths on me.  I actually thought that was OK, the 690 has a low rev limit and wheelies a bit to easy.

Do that same drag on the dirt and you'd pull a number of bike lenghts away but the time you get into second ...  ;D
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Bill the Bong on October 01, 2013, 08:38:44 pm
I think it might be tighter than you'd expect.  The F800GS has a monster wheelbase, making for good traction (obviously on similar tyres).   I have an F800 as well, the challenge would be to find a friend I'd trust on 1 of my bikes :snorting:  Of course, the 800 might just be the most boring bike I've ever owned.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Pom17 on October 05, 2013, 10:15:36 pm
I must agree with you Bill. I felt so comfortable and confident on my 800 that I had no issues taking it into places that I know it should not go. But it is a boring bike.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Bram on October 10, 2013, 10:07:41 pm
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems




You sold it and bought another one with less mileage on it; didn't you?

Everybody talks about the ktm 690 having a to high performance motor which compromises the longevity of the engine. What about the the honda xr650r which pushes out 44kw out of a 650 carburated engine. The 44kw is only a few shy of the ktm's power output. And apart from the injection change its still the same LC4 engine that was used in the 640 adventure. I have no worries this engine will do its part. (i hope  :biggrin: )
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on October 11, 2013, 09:01:05 am
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems




You sold it and bought another one with less mileage on it; didn't you?

Everybody talks about the ktm 690 having a to high performance motor which compromises the longevity of the engine. What about the the honda xr650r which pushes out 44kw out of a 650 carburated engine. The 44kw is only a few shy of the ktm's power output. And apart from the injection change its still the same LC4 engine that was used in the 640 adventure. I have no worries this engine will do its part. (i hope  :biggrin: )

It is a completely different engine to the one that was in the 640 adventure. The 640 engine was/is a complete dog of a thing  :pot:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: charliepappa on October 11, 2013, 11:18:06 am
There's a spotless 690 with long range tanks, akro pipe, rally fairing etc. at AMX in Pta East.
2,500 km, think 2011/2012 model: R 99,000 neg. Crazy bargain

Give Pieter a call 082 376 2657
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on October 11, 2013, 11:22:42 am
Wasn't for sale when I was there a couple of weeks ago. Might have to swing around again
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: charliepappa on October 11, 2013, 11:35:46 am
Picked up my SE from him on Wednesday and he told me to ask around... :3some:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Distronium on October 12, 2013, 10:29:22 am
There's a spotless 690 with long range tanks, akro pipe, rally fairing etc. at AMX in Pta East.
2,500 km, think 2011/2012 model: R 99,000 neg. Crazy bargain

Give Pieter a call 082 376 2657

Ok am I missing something here? The bike is a 2010 model(I phoned the owner) . they go for around 72 000 without the dakar kit. the omega kit is 25k. the rally raid around 30k.

So if I bought a 2010 model for 70 odd and bought and added my own Dakar kit it comes to the same price.

I'm not sure i see the value in buying a 690 with the 2nd hand Dakar kit on already if I can look for a clean non Dakar kitted bike and then go and buy a brand new kit for same price.

I have looked around and the guys seem to want full price for the dakar kit.

Let me know if I'm missing something obvious here.

Thanks
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: M3X3Z3 on October 12, 2013, 12:23:02 pm
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
 - shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant
 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Distronium on October 12, 2013, 01:15:19 pm
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
 - shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant
 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:

I did  :)

The reason I decided to sell the 990. I spent 1 1/2 hours on the bike. Raceworx actually phoned to see where I was. But I wanted to find a decent piece of dirt and sand to test it out. Had great fun on the bike.

I also took a 2010 model at rad for a test ride too. 2013 was more comfortable but i did not take the 2010 for an extended ride though. But I did prefer the 2013. Still 30k diff is quite a bit and that's ur Dakar kit right there.

So now exploring the various options ( and that includes taking a dr 650 for a test ride). Luckily I'm in no rush.  ;)

Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rolling Stone on October 12, 2013, 02:00:02 pm
There's a spotless 690 with long range tanks, akro pipe, rally fairing etc. at AMX in Pta East.
2,500 km, think 2011/2012 model: R 99,000 neg. Crazy bargain

Give Pieter a call 082 376 2657
This bike should be closer to 85k
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Bill the Bong on October 13, 2013, 06:06:38 pm
From watching the market, I'd say that a full Rally Raid conversion sells for about R10k more than a standard model.  Sad, as it could cost about up to R155k to build (according to unconfirmed reports  :P).  But that would include some rally specific kit.  
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: KVR on December 29, 2013, 09:57:52 am
Recently bought a 2011 model with an Alfie Cox rally kit installed, did a Karoo trip from PE, loved every minute of it. Good wind protection, decent millage on long range tank, long distance seat installed, xennon headlights and leo vince pipe for some extra grunt.  Absolutely fantastic bike, I would recommend it to anybody looking for serious fun while adventuring.  Already great bike turned into something legendary, should I be so bold. Adventure kit worth every penny and all for around the similar price of a standard 2013, best decision I could have made.   
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Sat Diver on December 29, 2013, 02:43:54 pm
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
 - shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant
 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:

I did  :)

The reason I decided to sell the 990. I spent 1 1/2 hours on the bike. Raceworx actually phoned to see where I was. But I wanted to find a decent piece of dirt and sand to test it out. Had great fun on the bike.

I also took a 2010 model at rad for a test ride too. 2013 was more comfortable but i did not take the 2010 for an extended ride though. But I did prefer the 2013. Still 30k diff is quite a bit and that's ur Dakar kit right there.

So now exploring the various options ( and that includes taking a dr 650 for a test ride). Luckily I'm in no rush.  ;)



Check out the for sale section! '13 690R Oryx for sale !!!!
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: ktmpilot on December 30, 2013, 09:38:52 pm
For what its worth, some of the price estimates on this thread are a bit off... I'm at the moment in the process of replacing my 990 I just sold with a 690 Rally conversion: from RAD a 2014 690 at R105k plus R58k for the Omega tank, fairing and sticker kit equals R163,000.00 which I think is the same as a new 1190!!

And, that does not include essentials like ICO, roadbook holder, steering damper, after-market pipe, etc, etc!


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Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Manic on December 30, 2013, 09:51:33 pm
Ayto Cycles here in PE, our KTM Agent, has a 690 fully kitted on their floor for R150 000.
2013 model, with a 660 GPS included. It is the owners bike. Think its got less than 2000km on the clock.

Its also up on Gumtree if anyone wants to see pics.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Sat Diver on December 30, 2013, 10:19:35 pm
Mine is up for sale in the for sale section of the forum and on olx
'13 690 Oryx
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: MikeB on January 14, 2014, 05:58:47 pm
Hi there

I purchased a 2013 690 and had the rally kit fitted with long range tanks and sticker kit. The whole cost was R126K
Title: Re: Re: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on January 14, 2014, 07:08:27 pm
Hi there

I purchased a 2013 690 and had the rally kit fitted with long range tanks and sticker kit. The whole cost was R126K
It looks AWESOME!!

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Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: M3X3Z3 on January 14, 2014, 07:21:29 pm
Hi there

I purchased a 2013 690 and had the rally kit fitted with long range tanks and sticker kit. The whole cost was R126K

The 2013 (and 2012 I hear) were the best models yet and are awesome bikes.
Enjoy it ........and one more thing..........ride the crap out it!!
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: ktmpilot on January 15, 2014, 05:39:42 am
That is a good looking bike! Do you mind maybe giving more detail: that looks like a Rallye Raid Evo 1 conversion, and did you do the installation of the conversion yourself or at a dealer?


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Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: ktmpilot on January 15, 2014, 05:43:09 am
Sorry just two more questions if I may please: was the bike 2nd hand or new, and if 2nd hand were the alu bash plate and after-market pipe already on the bike or did you buy them included in the R126k you paid?


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Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 15, 2014, 09:17:04 am
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
- shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant

 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:


This for me is a bad thing - You buy a 690 to do (serious) off-road stuff  ???- if I wanted a short stroke soft spring bike I would have bought a GS 800 >:D  or a 1190 :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: badseed on January 15, 2014, 08:39:10 pm
For me the appeal of the 690 is the light weight and simplicity. Putting a big heavy glass fibre hunk onto the front changes the handling and rattles and creaks . I've taken the Oryx on a couple of rough off road rides and always happy to be back on my stock bike. A bit of wind upfront and carrying a fuel bladder is no big deal. One of my reasons for buying the 690 was that falling off the 990 would mean a hefty repair bill for all the plastic painted bits resulting in me always holding back and riding defensively , so why put a load of breakable plastic bits on the 690 .
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 16, 2014, 08:27:25 am
For me the appeal of the 690 is the light weight and simplicity. Putting a big heavy glass fibre hunk onto the front changes the handling and rattles and creaks . I've taken the Oryx on a couple of rough off road rides and always happy to be back on my stock bike. A bit of wind upfront and carrying a fuel bladder is no big deal. One of my reasons for buying the 690 was that falling off the 990 would mean a hefty repair bill for all the plastic painted bits resulting in me always holding back and riding defensively , so why put a load of breakable plastic bits on the 690 .

I second this - looking at getting a 2014 690 - all I am planning on doing is: steering damper, rally footpegs, skidplate and some other protective bits
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on January 16, 2014, 09:41:15 am
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
- shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant

 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:


This for me is a bad thing - You buy a 690 to do (serious) off-road stuff  ???- if I wanted a short stroke soft spring bike I would have bought a GS 800 >:D  or a 1190 :thumleft:

There is a nice 610 with proper suspension, travel and ground clearance for sale on this forum for 1/2 the price of the equivalent 690. Having owned both I would not even consider the 690 over the 610 and that's before we even talk about the gearbox ratios which are crap on the 690.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: badseed on January 17, 2014, 06:51:46 am
Rough Rider don't you think the 690 is a lot better on the road , and unfortunately to get to the cool places often means a long crappy tar bit. The 2012 and on with the 690cc has that little more power and the ratios are better handled.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 17, 2014, 07:46:41 am
Ideally, and there is no pressure here, but.... the 2012/2013 models are the ones to go for:
 - 690 cc vs 650 cc
 - a few more KW and NM
 - significantly improved headlight
- shorter suspension travel
 - new spring rates that are softer and more street compliant

 - improved seat

Take a 2013 demo for a spin :ricky:


This for me is a bad thing - You buy a 690 to do (serious) off-road stuff  ???- if I wanted a short stroke soft spring bike I would have bought a GS 800 >:D  or a 1190 :thumleft:

There is a nice 610 with proper suspension, travel and ground clearance for sale on this forum for 1/2 the price of the equivalent 690. Having owned both I would not even consider the 690 over the 610 and that's before we even talk about the gearbox ratios which are crap on the 690.

I had a 690 - looking to buy a new one - loved my previous one, granted not the most comfortable bike on the road, but as soon as you hit the dirt :  O my...  what a bike  :biggrin:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on January 17, 2014, 04:19:39 pm
Rough Rider don't you think the 690 is a lot better on the road , and unfortunately to get to the cool places often means a long crappy tar bit. The 2012 and on with the 690cc has that little more power and the ratios are better handled.

Mine was the first generation 690; I have not ridden one of the new ones, so I can't really say how they go.

My 690 had very jerky throttle response and the engine was very peaky for a big bore thumper. It was more powerful at the top end than the 610 but had a hard time, believe it or not, keeping up with a BMW 650GS on the open road for any length of time. 
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: badseed on January 17, 2014, 06:37:29 pm
But yes I agree. A good 610 or even XR650R is pretty dam close to a 690 and for a whole lot less cash (purchase & servicing).
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on January 18, 2014, 09:23:54 am
But yes I agree. A good 610 or even XR650R is pretty dam close to a 690 and for a whole lot less cash (purchase & servicing).

Make no mistake the 610 is not perfect and also has its issues. But the point is for half the money of a 690 it is nowhere near half the bike.
I can't comment on the XR as I have never owned one.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Sic on January 20, 2014, 09:20:45 am
Just got my 2014 690. Wanna do RR evo 1 screen and tanks, Wild dog soft pannier racks, KTM bash plate, and Renazco or Touratech seat. (Dunno if Evo1 screen can be combined with Evo2 tanks as I want the clear screen offered only on Evo1 kits? - Any ideas?) └lready discovered that Akrapovic pipe doesn't fit 2014 model.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on January 20, 2014, 09:23:43 am
Rough Rider don't you think the 690 is a lot better on the road , and unfortunately to get to the cool places often means a long crappy tar bit. The 2012 and on with the 690cc has that little more power and the ratios are better handled.

Mine was the first generation 690; I have not ridden one of the new ones, so I can't really say how they go.

My 690 had very jerky throttle response and the engine was very peaky for a big bore thumper. It was more powerful at the top end than the 610 but had a hard time, believe it or not, keeping up with a BMW 650GS on the open road for any length of time. 

the 2014 690  has ride by wire throttle and duel ignition it is going to be so smooth  ;D (plus ABS as well  ;))
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: DjfLoYd on January 21, 2014, 05:46:19 pm
Just got my 2014 690. Wanna do RR evo 1 screen and tanks, Wild dog soft pannier racks, KTM bash plate, and Renazco or Touratech seat. (Dunno if Evo1 screen can be combined with Evo2 tanks as I want the clear screen offered only on Evo1 kits? - Any ideas?) └lready discovered that Akrapovic pipe doesn't fit 2014 model.

Don't bother with a Touratech seat. Not worth the money at all. Mine is only marginally (and I mean really marginally) more comfortable than my original seat.
Don't know about the Renazco though.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on June 27, 2014, 07:49:09 am
I've dragged raced against a friend on tar.  He was on a F800GS.  He had Anakees on, I was on knobs.  In every gear he pulled 1 bike length away from me.  When we hit 4th, he had 4 lengths on me.  I actually thought that was OK, the 690 has a low rev limit and wheelies a bit to easy.

On dirt, my KTM 250 SX-F totally destroys my 690 during roll-on runs. Lack of traction and the fact that the 250 revs to 13000 rpm vs the 690's 7800 seems to be the main issues here.

800 vs 690

www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnA1qdE7ho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnA1qdE7ho#ws)
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on June 27, 2014, 08:30:08 am
What is the lifespan of these engines? Will it do 100 000 km before it needs to be redone?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on June 27, 2014, 08:50:21 am
What is the lifespan of these engines? Will it do 100 000 km before it needs to be redone?

Het jy Jules se reply op die thread gelees?

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=115187.msg2246693#msg2246693 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=115187.msg2246693#msg2246693)

Sal seker as mens hom baie mooi op pas en nie hard ry nie maar ek steek hom eerder en doen hom oor op 50k  >:D
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on June 27, 2014, 09:10:21 am
Aaa, dankie. Hulle service intervals lyk of dit elke 5 000 km is?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on June 27, 2014, 09:13:03 am
Op die 2012+ modelle is dit 10 000
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 27, 2014, 09:18:16 am
Recently had the PLEASURE of spending some time riding a 2014 690. Loved it. Enjoyed the handling, at no time did I think that a steering damper was necessary, not like the previous models I rode. Wind protection is a must, sitting at 130km/h for long periods of time is uncomfortable. Loved the suspension, even thou the bike was not set up for me, I really enjoyed the way the bike held it's line through corners and smoothed out the corrugations. What I did find is that it did not require much rider input, was very relaxing and untiring to ride at pace.

Definitely high on my list for the next bike, when I decide to buy again.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on June 27, 2014, 09:20:02 am
Op die 2012+ modelle is dit 10 000
Thanks Dwerg, ek sien dalk liewer 'n 2014 690 in my garage volgende jaar as 'n 990 of 'n SE  :3some: Maar dit sal 'n KTM wees elk geval  :biggrin:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on June 27, 2014, 09:28:15 am
Bought one a couple of months ago (also used to own a 2010 model).

The 2014 with the fly by wire throttle and the duel sparkplugs are a lot more "mature" than the previous models, (although it has more ponies) it is smoother and easier to ride and less vibey.  Still huge amounts of fun although it has lost some of the "manic-ness" of the previous model.

the suspension (although I am still of the opinion that KTM has down graded this from the previous model - it is more like the 1190 suspension now - damping one fork and rebound other fork) are surprisingly good and tracks well. The front, out of the box, is quite firm but that is how I like it.  I still would have preferred more traditional type front forks though and a little more travel.

I did fit the Scotts steering damper (but rode it for a while without).  The front end is better than the previous models - not quite as skittish - but I like the scotts steering damper even if it is just for the piece of mind of the High speed damping function.

Is it worth it....  Yes....  every sent  :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on June 27, 2014, 09:32:31 am
Op die 2012+ modelle is dit 10 000

ek sal in elk geval elke 5000km olile en filter vervang...  maar dis net ek ;)
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 27, 2014, 09:38:48 am
Ja Thanks Toors....it's your fault that I have this itch for a 690. That little spin on your bike got me thinking. Then I had a much longer spin on another 2014 690  and the bug has bit big time. But it will have to wait, starting a new business next month so I need to get that fully up and running before I can even think about buying.

Would love to spend the day in De Wildt on one but I really don't think a dealership would give me one to test like that.   :lol8:
I crash to often  >:D
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on June 27, 2014, 09:57:57 am
Ja Thanks Toors....it's your fault that I have this itch for a 690. That little spin on your bike got me thinking. Then I had a much longer spin on another 2014 690  and the bug has bit big time. But it will have to wait, starting a new business next month so I need to get that fully up and running before I can even think about buying.

Would love to spend the day in De Wildt on one but I really don't think a dealership would give me one to test like that.   :lol8:
I crash to often  >:D


You are more than welcome to take my 690 to De Wildt - I'll just ride the plastic... ;)
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on June 27, 2014, 09:59:30 am
Gonna go look at one tomorrow. What did they cost new in 2012 more or less?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 27, 2014, 10:30:44 am


Would love to spend the day in De Wildt on one but I really don't think a dealership would give me one to test like that.   :lol8:
I crash to often  >:D


You are more than welcome to take my 690 to De Wildt - I'll just ride the plastic... ;)

Thanks Dries, but I will take a rain check on that offer.
off topic...was hoping to ride this weekend with you guys in De Wildt but have to go to the farm for some work. Next time I will plan the work load properly and allowing riding time.  ;D
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Toors on June 27, 2014, 10:35:11 am


Would love to spend the day in De Wildt on one but I really don't think a dealership would give me one to test like that.   :lol8:
I crash to often  >:D


You are more than welcome to take my 690 to De Wildt - I'll just ride the plastic... ;)

Thanks Dries, but I will take a rain check on that offer.
off topic...was hoping to ride this weekend with you guys in De Wildt but have to go to the farm for some work. Next time I will plan the work load properly and allowing riding time.  ;D

it is a good thing you are not coming...  it would be way too tough for you...   >:D ;)   next time plan better  ;)
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Mark Hardy on June 27, 2014, 10:43:54 am


Would love to spend the day in De Wildt on one but I really don't think a dealership would give me one to test like that.   :lol8:
I crash to often  >:D


You are more than welcome to take my 690 to De Wildt - I'll just ride the plastic... ;)

Thanks Dries, but I will take a rain check on that offer.
off topic...was hoping to ride this weekend with you guys in De Wildt but have to go to the farm for some work. Next time I will plan the work load properly and allowing riding time.  ;D

it is a good thing you are not coming...  it would be way too tough for you...   >:D ;)   next time plan better  ;)

 :P  :lol8:

enjoy and have fun.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on July 09, 2014, 04:54:48 pm
Op die 2012+ modelle is dit 10 000

ek sal in elk geval elke 5000km olile en filter vervang...  maar dis net ek ;)

Ek self  :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Advrider on July 11, 2014, 04:34:10 pm
Guys just a question can you use the 690 with the smaller omega kit on, on the open road to do 1500 km a weekend on 140-160 km/h every second month. The rest we know it can do but the tar part? Can the motor do it? We know its a thumper and its not completable but the rest. Thanks
 
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Dwerg on July 11, 2014, 04:39:07 pm
Guys just a question can you use the 690 with the smaller omega kit on, on the open road to do 1500 km a weekend on 140-160 km/h every second month. The rest we know it can do but the tar part? Can the motor do it? We know its a thumper and its not completable but the rest. Thanks
 

I would'nt hold it at 160 for too long but I am pretty sure it will do 140 all day long especially if you go one bigger on the front sprocket
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: ChinaPete on July 11, 2014, 05:38:13 pm
I love my 690
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on July 11, 2014, 06:43:23 pm
Guys just a question can you use the 690 with the smaller omega kit on, on the open road to do 1500 km a weekend on 140-160 km/h every second month. The rest we know it can do but the tar part? Can the motor do it? We know its a thumper and its not completable but the rest. Thanks
 

I would'nt hold it at 160 for too long but I am pretty sure it will do 140 all day long especially if you go one bigger on the front sprocket
140km/h is fast enough, going faster than that and you can end up in jail or in the hospital  :ricky:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Brandt on July 11, 2014, 06:44:45 pm
I love my 690
That 690 looks awesome with the pipes setup and the kit :thumleft:
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Advrider on July 12, 2014, 08:51:43 am
I love my 690

That photos look beatifull with the exhaust on the sides angle like that.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: LONG BOB on July 12, 2014, 01:28:40 pm
DONE 39 000 KM , ENGINE STILL SWEET, PULLS LIKE A PACK HORSE THROUGH ALL THE GEARS, WILL ALWAYS PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
After the last service i did i had hassels, she wouldnt idle for lon , did everything and besides finding the spark plug half out. She needed a v regulator and new fuel filters in the tank.
Now battling to keep the front wheel down.
Best all rounder built.
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Rough Rider on July 13, 2014, 03:06:26 pm
I love my 690

That is not a standard 690 it is a 690 Ralley replica, you can't really compare the two.


Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Advrider on July 15, 2014, 02:35:42 pm
Hi guys were can I get a comfy seat for a 690R
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: MaxThePanda on July 16, 2014, 08:28:26 am
seatconcepts.com
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Advrider on July 21, 2014, 04:44:32 pm
Hi, everyone. What exhaust to fit wings, fmf factory 4.1, Leo vince for power and sound?
Title: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: M3X3Z3 on July 21, 2014, 10:04:22 pm
Hi, everyone. What exhaust to fit wings, fmf factory 4.1, Leo vince for power and sound?
Did Wings on my '13 690.
Good price and performance and sound is great / loud without being too loud.
Title: Re: Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
Post by: Advrider on July 22, 2014, 06:10:57 am
Thank you what about the fmf factory 4.1 its a louder pipe than the quad core fmf. Fmf also cheaper than wings. But must say i heard the wings is just in its own class round of nicely.