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Title: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:28:30 am
Boys,
 
check this out:
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(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/HFoto/102401FotoGrande/$File/01.jpg)


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(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/0/99B1A78F527DDD5FC12573870062105E/$file/04.jpg)
 
(Yes, I like BEEG pics)
Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:38:07 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:38:58 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:39:41 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:40:51 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:41:40 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:42:35 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:43:32 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:44:07 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:44:41 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:45:33 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:47:06 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:47:43 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:48:19 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:48:50 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:50:10 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:50:47 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:51:23 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:51:54 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:52:28 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:52:59 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:53:38 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:54:19 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:54:55 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:55:24 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:55:48 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:56:12 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 12:56:50 am
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Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: Kev on November 03, 2007, 01:14:36 am
That's all folks.... (Guess what bike will be in the stable for hiring out next year)
Title: GS 800 Pics
Post by: michnus on November 03, 2007, 01:52:00 am
Bliksem, it seems they got it right, I want one for bloody sure.

This will be a tall order to follow.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: JourneyMan on November 03, 2007, 06:12:01 am
 :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

Who want's t o buy a slightly used Audi A4. 1997 model. :biggrin:

Thanks Kev! And please don't tell me it's photochop! :glasses12:
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Ratel on November 03, 2007, 07:26:27 am
I like it ;D

I am not convinced about the tiny little bashplate though >:(

Even so I am Number three on the waiting list at BMW ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Groenie on November 03, 2007, 07:35:39 am
I have to admit, I'm starting to like this bike quite a lot. To me, an 800 makes more sense than a 650. It will be much better for longer distance touring, except it only has a 18l tank. I've been wondering about upgrading, as in more cc's, for a while now....

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: funacide on November 03, 2007, 07:41:22 am
Nice looking bike!!

Good in my book (guessing from pics):

Bad in my book (guessing from pics):

Just guessing, lets wait and see what the specs look like....

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Groenie on November 03, 2007, 07:47:00 am
(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/0/3AFBC801F0615BE8C125738700622618/$file/27.jpg)

And you carry a paddock stand with you  :o
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Ratel on November 03, 2007, 07:47:58 am
I noticed that.

In some picks it is not there :-\
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: funacide on November 03, 2007, 07:52:37 am
That centre stand is going to scrape way before the foot pegs...
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 03, 2007, 07:58:21 am
(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/0/3AFBC801F0615BE8C125738700622618/$file/27.jpg)

And you carry a paddock stand with you  :o

Is that black pipework beneath the bike REALLY a centre stand???
If it is, you're going to lose it in no time on serious off road.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Plothond on November 03, 2007, 07:59:19 am
It looks really good

The front brake reservoir looks like an ugly zit though
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 03, 2007, 08:03:54 am
Can anyone see a clutch master cylinder?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Trailrider on November 03, 2007, 08:04:52 am
Nice. I like the yellow with knobblies. Needs a serious bash plate.

(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/0/FE6DC7E5001B0631C125738700621DFA/$file/18.jpg)

Is that GPS taking the guy to the Mall? BMW riders...

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Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Moggy on November 03, 2007, 08:07:56 am
OK! I'm in love...I want one....

concerned about the bash plat though and the small screen. TT and other aftermarket suppliers will no doubt fill that gap
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Moggy on November 03, 2007, 08:19:38 am
Clutch looks cable operated
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Colyn on November 03, 2007, 09:09:02 am
Jaaasaaaam ... I like it ... I like it a lot :)

Looking at the shots with that rider on it does not appear to be too high ... or that guy is a big guy :)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: lecap on November 03, 2007, 09:16:57 am
Quite nice.
Looks a lot like a Battlestar Galactica interceptor. Cool.

The foot pegs seem to be off the F650 GS or very similar. Take the silly rubbers off and pack them nicely until you sell the toy to some Sunday daddy and they are actually ok.

Very practical position for the external power plug. No more hands and knees like on my R1100GS.

Better solution for the exhaust than on the XT660.

Some things not so cool:

USD forks. I know, better than standard forks. But more difficult to protect the inner tubes from damage. They make much sense on the track on a MX bike but not sooooo nice on a DS tourer.

The front brake reservoir looks like off the R90/6 shelf :D

The headlight cluster looks a bit too much Battlestar Galactica (taken from the scale plastic model construction kit) / cheap waterproof & floating torch from Builders Warehouse.

The routing of the front brake line and ABS sensor cable looks plain amteurish k@k. Just that they did not use cable ties. The huge loop of the brake line crossing over the fender is a hot contender to the new KLR's "locking cable".
Would be so much nicer to fit the brake line snugly over the front fender and run the line and ABS cable through a sliding pipe a la DR650.

Centre stand: No comment.
I never needed one. To spray the chain you get someone to tilt the bike over the sidestand or stick a tire lever under the foot peg (see Heaven and Hel ride report).
If you have a puncture throw the damn thing on its side. Just make sure you've got a MF battery. If you have a 650GS (no MF battery) use a tomato box :)

No frame cradle. Impact has to be absorbed by the bashplate and engine casing. Let's hope the mounting points have enough "meat".
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: SGB on November 03, 2007, 10:20:00 am
Looks good, like it, I predict that demand will exceed supply.  Belly protection will need attention, and the catalytic convertor (assme that is what it is behind the engine) and the "silencer" at the back are very exposed.  And a hydraulic clutch.....  It is just soooo much nicer, why would they use a cable on a bike like this?  The tubed wheels might be a disappointment for the pure GS'ers, but the 650 riders are comfortable with them.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Colyn on November 03, 2007, 10:20:47 am
Do you see the sprocket configuration ? ... looks like on the 450 ... no tension issues as the swingarm moves and I believe the front sprocket has some form of auto tensioning like on the S and ST belts ... that will make the cahin less of an issue to those that like the shafts.

After staring at the shots for more than an hour I have this to say ... I want one !

As can be expected there will be criticism but that is natural ... this bike is going to make life hard for the opposition and if you take that KTM only sold 30 bikes in the bigger capacity up to August then one has to wonder how many of those 30 will be taken by this bike ... interesting times ahead that is for sure.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Goose on November 03, 2007, 11:30:37 am
After staring at the shots for more than an hour I have this to say ... I want one !



+1 - really nice..  8)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: topbox on November 03, 2007, 11:35:54 am
screen, bashplate etc.  nothing that cant be easily fixed

i think its a winner
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Colyn on November 03, 2007, 11:59:44 am
screen, bashplate etc.  nothing that cant be easily fixed

i think its a winner

I agree with you on this 100% ... this bike is coming into a space that BMW seriously needed something and from what I see on the shots this one can be a big success.

I also think this is the one that will allow the guys that don't like the boxers  to buy a BMW. I personally never liked the boxer and that is why I rode Kawasakis till I got the opportunity to ride the K1200 GT and I was hooked.

I also think that there will be a hard run from aftermarket suppliers to provide the goodies that we will moan about. ;)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Panne on November 03, 2007, 12:45:24 pm
Thanks for the pics Kev.

Here's my 2c:


...The headlight cluster looks a bit too much Battlestar Galactica (taken from the scale plastic model construction kit) / cheap waterproof & floating torch from Builders Warehouse.

The routing of the front brake line and ABS sensor cable looks plain amteurish k@k. Just that they did not use cable ties. The huge loop of the brake line crossing over the fender is a hot contender to the new KLR's "locking cable".
Would be so much nicer to fit the brake line snugly over the front fender and run the line and ABS cable through a sliding pipe a la DR650....

+1

...Belly protection will need attention...

+1. IMO it should come with a decent bashplate as standard. TT and the other guys can then improve on the standard item if they like.

Apart from the above, I like it.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Colyn on November 03, 2007, 01:14:50 pm
Jislaaik party van julle ouens is darem heavy vinnig om woorde soos "amateurish" en "k@k" te gebruik. :(

Ek sien ook dat daar well a tipe "bashplate" is ... onthou net ... daar gaan seker minder as 1% van die fietse in ZA verkoop word en die meeste mense in die res van die wêreld het geen proobleme met die 1200 bashplate wat deur baie hier ook as k@k beskryf word.

Van wat ek hier gelees het op die forum is daar baie manne met goeie tegniese vaardigheid en in my opinie is a k@k bashlate mos a briljante kans vir iemand om lekker geld te maak ... of nie ?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Highlander on November 03, 2007, 01:19:49 pm
ooo this bike is gonna sell everywhere you go.

Like the yellow ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Panne on November 03, 2007, 02:06:32 pm
Jislaaik party van julle ouens is darem heavy vinnig om woorde soos "amateurish" en "k@k" te gebruik. :(

Ek sien ook dat daar well a tipe "bashplate" is ... onthou net ... daar gaan seker minder as 1% van die fietse in ZA verkoop word en die meeste mense in die res van die wêreld het geen proobleme met die 1200 bashplate wat deur baie hier ook as k@k beskryf word.

Van wat ek hier gelees het op die forum is daar baie manne met goeie tegniese vaardigheid en in my opinie is a k@k bashlate mos a briljante kans vir iemand om lekker geld te maak ... of nie ?

Colyn, miskien was ek bietjie vinnig maar die feit dat ek lecap grotendeels aangehaal het beteken nie noodwendig ek stem woord vir woord sy mening saam nie. Hoe dit ookal sy, elkeen het sy smaak en my persoonlike opinie is dat hulle dalk 'n beter plan kon maak met die rempype.
 
Ja, daar is wel 'n tipe "bashplate" en ons is maar 'n klein deel van die totale mark. My vraag is net: motormaatskappye doen klein aanpassings aan 'n nuwe model voor hulle dit plaaslik bekend stel, kan die motorfietsouens dit nie ook doen nie, of is dit nie ekonomies haalbaar nie?

Laastens is daar altyd 'n geleentheid om geld te maak, jy moet net die gaping eerste raaksien. :)

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Colyn on November 03, 2007, 02:32:21 pm
Panne ... ek verstaan ;)

Wel ek sal dit weer sê ... die WD site het goeie tegniese mense en goeie tegniese ryers en daar is baie breins hier om dinge te sien wat kan verbeter word vir ZA omstandighede. Soos ek verstaan van BMW is die bashplate issue iets wat in hulle mening bie belangrik genoeg oor genoeg eenhede voorkom nie en dus nie baie ernstig is nie. Ek besef ook dat die bashplate issue hel belangrik vir ZA ryers is. Nou wonder ek maar ... a goeie korporasie onder die vaandel van WD kan mos 'n besondere betalende onderneming word. Al daai klein dingetjies ... verskillende mense mak verskillende goetjies endie WD word die outlet portal ... kopers besef van die begin af dat die produkte soort van "tuis nywerheid" is en nie in blink plastiek met allerhande useless goeters op verpak word nie en bloot net a werk het om te doen.

WD vat a persentasie en die res gaan na die "vervaardiger" toe. DIt is hoe goeie gemeenskappe self onderhoudend word en nie wag vir a BLING FACTORY om die goeters teen a moerse prys op die mark te bring nie.

In die 70's ws daar baie ouens wat crashbars so gemaak het in hulle spaartyd en goeie diens gelewer het aan a gemeenskap waarby hulle a belang het.

Kom nou manne ... wat het geword van die eens beroemde en berugte Afrikaner Entrepeneurskap wat selfs kernbomme ontwikkel het toe die wereld ons wou uitwis. Hoekom wag ons DS manne altyd vir TT ... hulle is a klomp tossers in my oe wat net reg sit om goeters teen a helse prys aan ons te verkoop en score omdat BMW hulle as "offcial" suppliers beskou.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Panne on November 03, 2007, 02:53:32 pm
Kom nou manne ... wat het geword van die eens beroemde en berugte Afrikaner Entrepeneurskap wat selfs kernbomme ontwikkel het toe die wereld ons wou uitwis. Hoekom wag ons DS manne altyd vir TT ... hulle is a klomp tossers in my oe wat net reg sit om goeters teen a helse prys aan ons te verkoop en score omdat BMW hulle as "offcial" suppliers beskou.

In hierdie geval stem ek volmondig saam. ;D ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: tok-tokkie on November 03, 2007, 04:52:30 pm
Those are great photos.  A lot of people have been waiting for this bike & I don't think they are going to be dissapointed.

Where so many bikes are being aimed more at tar than dirt this is very good to see.

Upside down forks.  But no adjustments on them it would seem.
Bash plate; but it has to be attached to the engine.
Fuel tank is way higher than on the F650 unfortunately.
Has the quirky BMW winker switches.
Water temp?  Fuel gauge?
I was mystefied by the bolt in the center of the front sprocket cover.  Looks like the 450 bike with the rear fork pivoted through the gearbox output shaft.  I don't think that is what is going on here so what is that bolt for?  Now I see from one of the later photos that it is the bolt holding the sprocket to the shaft.
I like the frame.  Radiator is high up and well protected from stones and falling damage.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: SGB on November 03, 2007, 05:03:07 pm
I was mystefied by the bolt in the center of the front sprocket cover.  Looks like the 450 bike with the rear fork pivoted through the gearbox output shaft.  I don't think that is what is going on here so what is that bolt for?  Now I see from one of the later photos that it is the bolt holding the sprocket to the shaft.

Looks like the "conventional" arrangement where the swing arm bolt and "sprocket shaft" are offset.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: BMWPE on November 03, 2007, 05:46:19 pm
very nice!!!!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Doggone on November 04, 2007, 06:34:17 am
Really very nice looking machine!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Welsh on November 04, 2007, 06:58:18 am
What a pleasant surprise after the let down of the new TA, it looks the business, excepting the bash plate as usual.

And the bash plate does not protect all, that oil filter and gubbins hanging off the front of the motor it will need attention.

It somehow doesn,t look that "tough" but with a proper set of engine bars, proper pegs and maybe the bash mounted at the engine bar points it could be good.

The dak style tank though, doesn,t give many options for increasing capacity.

The paddock stand is not pretty maybe an option, they are ugly, but that type of stand is easier to use and does not sink in as easily as the straight leg ones.

On the whole not bad, the chain drive looks good, but no it is conventional and not axial with the swingarm.   

And why doesnt it have one of those horrible rear wheel hugger things like they have on the others???

Welsh.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Paulsky on November 04, 2007, 07:38:46 am
All the bits everyone is raving about have been coming stock on KTM's for years. Buy a 950/990 and get it over and done with and you won't have to compromise.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Ratel on November 04, 2007, 07:47:51 am
All the bits everyone is raving about have been coming stock on KTM's for years. Buy a 950/990 and get it over and done with and you won't have to compromise.

He-he...vat so >:D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: shark_za on November 04, 2007, 07:53:01 am
Bash plate and exhaust are a load of bollocks.
Other than that I actually like this a lot.

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: wino on November 04, 2007, 07:57:02 am
a really good looking bike. and with the new yammie, the only 'proper' ds looking bike. personally if it's got the same electrical system as the 1200 - no thanks. and the price, after all the farkles have been added, might just be the same as a 990 ???
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: michnus on November 04, 2007, 09:18:41 am
All the bits everyone is raving about have been coming stock on KTM's for years. Buy a 950/990 and get it over and done with and you won't have to compromise.

He-he...vat so >:D

Nothing good to say?

Some more info.

The F800GS will be 178 kgs dry, 207kgs wet, seat hight is optional (on order) 880mm or 827mm.

Fuel capacity is 16lts giving a range of at least 400 kms.

Available in 2 colours, Black/yellow, and Managanese(greyish white?)/yellow.

ABS optional, heated grips standard in Oz, centre stand optional.

BMW will release the F800GS and F650GS along with other new models, 1200GS, 1200GSA, and a 450X,early
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Rock Spider on November 04, 2007, 09:19:42 am
OK, I'm taking orders.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: michnus on November 04, 2007, 09:24:25 am
Pay your vendor fees first before you try and get business.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: STRAATVALK on November 04, 2007, 09:58:49 am
STRAATVALK needs a black one please
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Leo on November 04, 2007, 01:59:28 pm
I like ;)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Highlander on November 04, 2007, 04:25:37 pm
STRAATVALK needs a black one please

Kan jy nie lees nie, hulle kom slegs in variasies van geel.

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Raggety on November 04, 2007, 04:55:54 pm
Very very nice. But what about the price?   

Would the belt option of the ST not be a possibilty?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Highlander on November 04, 2007, 05:21:42 pm
Very very nice. But what about the price?   

Would the belt option of the ST not be a possibilty?

Belt on a dirt road, I wonder?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: gonedown on November 04, 2007, 05:47:17 pm
mmmm  - we may have found DotP's new bike. ;)

Wonder how much trade we will get for a 1150R.

She will need to compare the two - and see if she is happy with the performance compared to the R. ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Scribble on November 04, 2007, 05:55:03 pm
ticks most of the right boxes but not gonna be in a hurry for
it
 give it a couple of years for them to sort all the kark out first
hopefully by then the canbus software will be as upgraded as possible
and we might have learned enough about how it all works to solve a few possible problems on our own
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Katoom on November 04, 2007, 08:47:25 pm
That is a cool looking bike.
The specs will be interesting
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: GIDEON on November 06, 2007, 07:35:48 am
I like alot.
But knowing BMW the price is going to be WAY over my head
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Marlene on November 06, 2007, 07:45:53 am
Me wnat the yellow and black one !!!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 06, 2007, 08:03:37 am

[/quote]

Nothing good to say?

Some more info.

The F800GS will be 178 kgs dry, 207kgs wet, seat hight is optional (on order) 880mm or 827mm.

Fuel capacity is 16lts giving a range of at least 400 kms.

Available in 2 colours, Black/yellow, and Managanese(greyish white?)/yellow.

ABS optional, heated grips standard in Oz, centre stand optional.

BMW will release the F800GS and F650GS along with other new models, 1200GS, 1200GSA, and a 450X,early
[/quote]

Something doesn't make sense. IF it weighs 178kgs dry, 16 l of fuel weighs about 14 kg, oil about 3kg and about the same for water - which gives a wet weight of about 198kg - not 207kg?
Also 400kms from 16l is 25km/l - wow!?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: the_wes on November 06, 2007, 10:28:32 am
regarding price the current 800S/ST go for 85k/92k respectively, so I'd imagine this would be round there somewhere?

kev, so THIS is the thread you were talking about  ;D i was confused

i love the headlight! a throw back to the K1200R, which is one of my favourites

black is easy to do - just respray the plastics ;)

in short - i want one.

o and if you look at all the pics you get an idea of what options are available, eg, tall screen
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Kev on November 06, 2007, 12:18:06 pm
kev, so THIS is the thread you were talking about  ;D i was confused

:thumleft: ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 06, 2007, 12:43:59 pm

Quote

Nothing good to say?

Some more info.

The F800GS will be 178 kgs dry, 207kgs wet, seat hight is optional (on order) 880mm or 827mm.

Fuel capacity is 16lts giving a range of at least 400 kms.

Available in 2 colours, Black/yellow, and Managanese(greyish white?)/yellow.

ABS optional, heated grips standard in Oz, centre stand optional.

BMW will release the F800GS and F650GS along with other new models, 1200GS, 1200GSA, and a 450X,early

Something doesn't make sense. IF it weighs 178kgs dry, 16 l of fuel weighs about 14 kg, oil about 3kg and about the same for water - which gives a wet weight of about 198kg - not 207kg?
Also 400kms from 16l is 25km/l - wow!?

Weight, performance, fuel consumption, off-road capability, ... all of these are just speculations at the moment. Maybe BMW will change the bash plate for the South African market (hopefully). I don't mind the exhaust, especially when the richer okes among us will certainly fit a mean Remus or akra.

Motorrad has done a great job in the motorcycle industry by giving us more options ito choice of motorcycles. I gain deep respect for this company more and more everyday.
And as a KTM rider, Motorrad is pushing the competition to higher levels, so that KTM will have to compete by bringing more excellent stuff in the market.

I can't wait to see what Motorrad will do with its acquisition of Husky.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: the_wes on November 06, 2007, 12:53:48 pm

Motorrad has done a great job in the motorcycle industry by giving us more options ito choice of motorcycles. I gain deep respect for this company more and more everyday.
And as a KTM rider, Motorrad is pushing the competition to higher levels, so that KTM will have to compete by bringing more excellent stuff in the market.

I can't wait to see what Motorrad will do with its acquisition of Husky.

holy crap who are you and what have you done with jabu  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 06, 2007, 02:23:29 pm

Motorrad has done a great job in the motorcycle industry by giving us more options ito choice of motorcycles. I gain deep respect for this company more and more everyday.
And as a KTM rider, Motorrad is pushing the competition to higher levels, so that KTM will have to compete by bringing more excellent stuff in the market.

I can't wait to see what Motorrad will do with its acquisition of Husky.

holy crap who are you and what have you done with jabu  :o :o :o :o

I've gotta be fair sometimes. But don't worry, I'm waiting to see what Bee Em is gonna do with the F650GS...
You should put some bucks on the side to scrap the Dakar of yours for a F800GS.;)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: the_wes on November 06, 2007, 02:41:39 pm
they're going to take the 800 engine and d-tune it into a more road-friendly 650 twin GS - stru's bob. no more dakar in the range - that's what the 800 will be for

would love to sell old dakkie BUT won't be able to afford the 800GS for at least another 2 years...

last night I showed the_wife the photos of the 800GS, and her exact words were "as soon as you get a raise we're buying that"

 ;D ;D ;D i married a good woman
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Max on November 06, 2007, 02:59:45 pm
Gee, you are very lucky. Can we swop wives??
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: mountainboy on November 06, 2007, 03:02:48 pm
;D ;D ;D i married a good woman

+1

you one lucky man!!!!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Max on November 06, 2007, 03:09:37 pm
I have been following this threat intensely. I have been waiting for this THING for sometime time now and judging from whats shown I will be getting one. Wife will unfortunately not briefed on my acquisition. Easier to ask for forgiveness later.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Aquatic on November 06, 2007, 03:12:18 pm
My Mrs. words " Jeez it's ugly, I think you should but a super bike"

I think she missed the point!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Slinte Mhaith on November 06, 2007, 03:17:15 pm
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Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Eisbein on November 06, 2007, 03:20:34 pm



Is that all 800cc in a thumper  ???

Side by side twin - waaaaay better...

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Max on November 06, 2007, 03:35:58 pm
Had the opportunity to ride the 800st when it came out. I was truly impressed except for the clunk. Oh that gearbox, reminds me of my previous. Only on the downshift however. If this is anything like the st Motorwise etc) it will be out of this world for a middle weight parallel twin bike.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Ratsalad on November 06, 2007, 03:41:13 pm
Something doesn't make sense. IF it weighs 178kgs dry, 16 l of fuel weighs about 14 kg, oil about 3kg and about the same for water - which gives a wet weight of about 198kg - not 207kg?
Also 400kms from 16l is 25km/l - wow!?
Must be special fuel - like concentrate or something?
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Max on November 06, 2007, 03:48:39 pm
I too have a problem with the stats passed on so far. 16l is just too little if one want to tour and 400km forget it.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: mountainboy on November 06, 2007, 04:07:26 pm
I have been following this threat intensely. I have been waiting for this THING for sometime time now and judging from whats shown I will be getting one. Wife will unfortunately not briefed on my acquisition. Easier to ask for forgiveness later.

but love, max said it would be fine if I did not consult you when i bought this bike . Here are his contact details.......... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Slinte Mhaith on November 06, 2007, 04:14:00 pm
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Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Eisbein on November 06, 2007, 04:21:16 pm
I might be wrong here, but I think the two pipes coming from a single is to be able to have bigger output volume of the gas without having to have a too big outlet port.



Edit - but I'm an IT geek, so don't mind me too much.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Elmo on November 06, 2007, 05:01:44 pm
I looove those indicators !!!
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: lecap on November 07, 2007, 07:55:31 am
I might be wrong here, but I think the two pipes coming from a single is to be able to have bigger output volume of the gas without having to have a too big outlet port.



Edit - but I'm an IT geek, so don't mind me too much.

 :mrgreen:

It's called a twin port head.

It does not make sense on two valve engines.

It's actually not that much about the port size (which only grows in diameter by the factor of the square root of 2 if you want to double the cross section)but about optimising the intake and exhaust channels.

Many "twin port" heads are actually "quadruple port" (Like the good old XT600 XT660) They have two sets of ports leading to the intake valves and exhaust valves each.
The XL250 / XL500 were single port on the intake (because of the usage of a single carburettor) and twin port on the exhaust side.

A twin port design makes it easier to achieve straight (more efficient) channels. Due to restrictions of the "length" of the cylinder head a single port four valve head has to have one additional and quite considerable "bend" in the channel where the two intake channels separate / the two exhaust channels meet.
A twin port design head channel has only one "bend" into / out of the line of the valve stem.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 07, 2007, 08:09:48 am
Some more info: I've underlined the interesting bit.

The big news in this episode of As the Motorcycle World Turns is the much anticipated arrival of the F800GS. Finally, a go-anywhere GS that doesn't require a long inseam or a Herculean physique to man-handle it off-road. BMW claims 392 lbs without fuel, which equates to somewhere in the neighborhood of 440 lbs with all fluids and a full tank of gas. A trellis frame is mated to an inverted fork and standard two-sided swingarm with chain final drive. Combined with wire spoke wheels and dual-purpose tires, the new F800GS chassis should make it easy for riders stepping up to this bike to feel comfortable and familiar right away.

Anyone who has ridden a Boxer-powered GS knows it's a little different than the more standard Parallel Twin in the new F800. With a claimed 85 horsepower and 61 lb-ft of torque on tap, the new GS should have enough power to get where it needs to go while the 4.2-gallon fuel tank, located beneath the seat in the same fashion as the F800S/ST, should be enough to make sure it can handle the adventure part of the equation. Fuel economy on the S and ST models is pretty impressive, so as long as this bike is in that same ballpark, it should have a decent 200+ mile range.

Expect a comfortable seat and rider-friendly ergonomics courtesy of its wide, flat footpegs, high bars combined with a tall windscreen and bodywork that extends out to cover up the radiator and provide some semblance of protection from the elements. An assortment of BMW amenities includes ABS and a 400-watt alternator capable of supporting an assortment of accessories, which should make the touring side of the equation livable too.

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Grondpad on November 07, 2007, 08:55:41 am
http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/BikesQuads/BikingNews/0,,1369-1962-1964_2216410,00.html
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: IceCreamMan on November 07, 2007, 09:42:58 am
this is the bike that gets the rondel into my garage i reckon.

Is the seat height of 880 mm confirmed?

price?
dates?

hurry up now mike , give me info
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: SuperJuice on November 07, 2007, 09:45:31 am
The F800GS will be 178 kgs dry, 207kgs wet, seat hight is optional (on order) 880mm or 827mm.

Released in March 2008.

No price as yet.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 07, 2007, 09:48:54 am
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2841045170346215670&q=F800GS&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8059329140981037752&q=F800GS&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3634049585906492825&q=F800GS&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

That bike could be the best GS ever...
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 07, 2007, 12:31:42 pm
Found this pic of the "road going" version. Has a detuned version of the 800 twin putting put 53kW.
http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/BikesQuads/BikingNews/0,,1369-1962-1964_2216410,00.html

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n287/letsgofishing2/Biking/20071107080750F_650_GS_2789.jpg)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: LuckyStriker on November 07, 2007, 12:51:09 pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8059329140981037752&q=F800GS&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

That bike could be the best GS ever...

About 2 minutes into that video is a table-top ramp which the guy rides over at jogging speed.
I would have loved to see him jump it

Frankly this video is not that inspiring. It's so slow it completely failed to impress me
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Eisbein on November 07, 2007, 01:05:44 pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8059329140981037752&q=F800GS&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

That bike could be the best GS ever...

About 2 minutes into that video is a table-top ramp which the guy rides over at jogging speed.
I would have loved to see him jump it

Frankly this video is not that inspiring. It's so slow it completely failed to impress me

I would also have liked to see (even a little) jump, a huuuuge powerslide and a wheelie...

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 07, 2007, 02:41:24 pm
Specs: (I don't know if those figures are accurate.)

F800GS:
- 178 Kg dry weight / 207 kg fully juiced up (sounds a lot...)
- 85 hp at 7500 rpm
- 8,3 daN.m at 5 750 rpm
- Top speed: over 200km/h
- Seat height: 880/850 mm

F650GS:
- 170 Kg dry weight / 199 kg fully juiced up
- 71 hp at 7000 rpm
- 165 km/h top speed (eish)
- Seat height: 820 / 790 mm

(http://www.moto-station.com/cgi-bin/photos/imageLeech.cgi?source=IF&ct=1194438239&file=/Fonds_ecran/Motos/Motos_serie_plus_de_125/BMW/BMW_F_650_GS_2008/BMW_F650GS_ac1gz.jpg)

(http://www.moto-station.com/cgi-bin/photos/imageLeech.cgi?source=IF&ct=1194438293&file=/Fonds_ecran/Motos/Motos_serie_plus_de_125/BMW/BMW_F_650_GS_2008/BMW_F650GS_acgz.jpg)

(http://www.moto-station.com/cgi-bin/photos/imageLeech.cgi?source=IF&ct=1194438283&file=/Fonds_ecran/Motos/Motos_serie_plus_de_125/BMW/BMW_F_650_GS_2008/BMW_F650GS_stgz.jpg)

(http://www.moto-station.com/cgi-bin/photos/imageLeech.cgi?source=IF&ct=1194438336&file=/Fonds_ecran/Motos/Motos_serie_plus_de_125/BMW/BMW_F_650_GS_2008/BMW_F650GS_st2gz.jpg)

(http://www.moto-station.com/cgi-bin/photos/imageLeech.cgi?source=IF&ct=1194438345&file=/Fonds_ecran/Motos/Motos_serie_plus_de_125/BMW/BMW_F_650_GS_2008/BMW_F650GS_st3gz.jpg)

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Tim on November 07, 2007, 03:10:05 pm
No comments on the new look 1200??
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: H00dlum on November 07, 2007, 03:11:23 pm
Not many bikes that I look at and say I like right off the mark. In fact there are now two, 1st was my XJR1300 and now this... Wow it really is a fantatic looking bike...  I was tempted with a Dakar but this is just awesome  ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.motociclismo.it/edisport/moto/gallery.nsf/0/C0EF4FBE022FB6F7C125738700621EE8/$file/19.jpg)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Metaljockey on November 07, 2007, 03:18:16 pm

All I ever wanted was a Dakar (weight wise) that can do 180km/h comfortably with a KTM suspension. This is damn close, just have to see how the suspension pans out.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 07, 2007, 03:28:15 pm

All I ever wanted was a Dakar (weight wise) that can do 180km/h comfortably with a KTM suspension. This is damn close, just have to see how the suspension pans out.

Motorrad said they've improved all GSs' suspensions. Don't expect anything great on the new F650GS, it's a road bike.
But it seems that the 12GS has new suspensions, full of electronics such as the ones found on the K series.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: letsgofishing on November 07, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
I really hope the front suspension on the 800GS is adjustable - but it seems theat BM might be cutting corners - it seems to have a cable operated clutch (in these days, WTF), no handguards, and a dodgy looking bash plate.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Eisbein on November 07, 2007, 04:14:15 pm
I really hope the front suspension on the 800GS is adjustable - but it seems theat BM might be cutting corners - it seems to have a cable operated clutch (in these days, WTF), no handguards, and a dodgy looking bash plate.

LGF - I can understand that cable clutch is old school, but you must have a feel at the bash how my cable operated 1100 clutch feels.

For some reason I like that more than hydrolic - it might have something to do with the fact that I had troubles with my FJ's hydrolic clutch though.

Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Leo on November 07, 2007, 06:48:15 pm
One thing that bugs me a bit is the height of the panniers.

The top seems to be above the the height of the seat. Effectively that will imply that anything (long) tied across the back seat will effectively rest on the panniers.  ;)

Also if the missus is a bit pear shaped, she would fit snuggly in between those panniers.  8)
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Zonkelnut on November 07, 2007, 07:00:20 pm
One thing that bugs me a bit is the height of the panniers.

The top seems to be above the the height of the seat. Effectively that will imply that anything (long) tied across the back seat will effectively rest on the panniers.  ;)

Also if the missus is a bit pear shaped, she would fit snuggly in between those panniers.  8)

Hallo Leo  ;D
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: jabu69 on November 08, 2007, 12:46:37 pm
Some more F800GS facts from Motorrad:

Engine: Water-cooled, 2-cylinder, 4-stroke, four valves per cylinder, two overhead camshafts, dry sump lubrication
Capacity: 798 cc
Rated output: 63 kW (85 hp) at 7,500 rpm (optional 91 RON version: 61 kW (83 hp) at 7,500 rpm)
Max. torque: 83 Nm at 5,750 rpm (optional 91 RON version: 81 Nm at 5,750 rpm)
Emission control: Closed-loop 3-way catalytic converter, emission standard EU-3
Tyre, front / rear: 90/90 - 21 54V / 150/70 - 17 69V
Wheelbase: 1,578 mm
Brake, front: Twin disc, floating brake discs, diameter 300 mm, double-piston floating calipers
Brake, rear: Single disc, diameter 265 mm, single-piston floating caliper
ABS: Optional extra: BMW Motorrad ABS (can be switched off)
Seat height: 880 mm (low seat: 850 mm)
Inner leg curve: 1,940 mm (low seat: 1,900 mm)
Dry weight 1): 178 kg
Unladen weight, road ready, fully fuelled 2): 207 kg
Usable tank volume : 16,0 l
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: JourneyMan on November 08, 2007, 12:54:56 pm

Seat height: 880 mm (low seat: 850 mm)


Current Dakar is listed at 870mm. I might just make it with my kortgat, even if it means a lean angle when stationary. :rolleyes:

Or just go with the lower seat.
Title: Re: GS 800 Pics (Official pics)
Post by: Leo on November 08, 2007, 08:23:20 pm
Hallo Leo  ;D

Hey Zonk, gaan dit nog goed? Long time no see or hear!

Wanna vat jy die groot voel oorie water?

//Hijack off  ???