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Title: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 06, 2013, 07:21:07 pm
For the past year we've been playing with different idea's and towns to purchase a property that would not only allow us to move out of Cape Town, but it had to have sufficient land and space that we could create Camping and Self-catering facilities that would be 100% biker friendly.
The property would also allow us to live seperately from the proposed camp site.
The area also needed to be positioned in such a way that staying there for a long weekend, would allow you to have at least 3 day-trips to explore while your campsite is secure.

Our ideal property has been found in the Overberg - (the exact town and location to be announced once papers finalised)  :thumleft:

Pictures shown below is approximately 3/4 ha and consists of well established lawns that were used as a horse paddock. The property is surrounded by Beefwoods and is situated in such a way that the land is virtually wind-free and sheltered. Being North-facing is gets full sun even in winter.......

The site would be able to handle at least 40 - 50 tents.

We will be building ablution blocks with hot & cold water showers for ladies & gents.
A swimming pool & Lapa also planned as well as sheltered area's to supply ample shade for those hot days.
One of the barns on the property will be converted to a workshop that you could do maintenance and we'd also host a small "biker's shop" so that you can get nescessities that you might have missed or forgotten...........

SO .............  can we please get input from fellow Dawgs as to WHAT types of facilities might be needed additionally ........?  What would make this an attractive place to spend a weekend with your mates (only about 200km from Cape Town)  8)

The Campsite will obviously cater for others as well.... but our loyalties ensure that we create a biker friendly environment first.....  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Pietcoke on May 06, 2013, 07:38:30 pm
Dis nou 'n fantastiese idee Peter.

Dis presies wat ek oor droom..

Ek hou duim vas dat alles sal uitwerk soos beplan.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: dual on May 06, 2013, 07:40:53 pm
I have a need for a wendy type hut with bunk beds, bring your own mattress and sleeping bag
Like camping, but without the tent
Maybe a small wood burning stove double up as donkey for hot water
Basic but clean ablution, toilet, basin, shower

Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Ratt on May 06, 2013, 08:04:03 pm
 :thumleft: wish I could afford to move back to the overberg.....The flatteland is calling.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 06, 2013, 08:15:50 pm
I have a need for a wendy type hut with bunk beds, bring your own mattress and sleeping bag
Like camping, but without the tent
Maybe a small wood burning stove double up as donkey for hot water
Basic but clean ablution, toilet, basin, shower




The ablution block will probably consist of at least 4 x toilets each side as well as 3 or 4 showers  - Solar geysers will supply the hot water backed up by a gas boiler.
We will have 3 or 4 self catering cottages with en-suites for those that want to have some luxury.........  a few timber cabins for the lazy ones - we will probably even have a few tents for rent for those that don't want to bother with their own.......   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: dual on May 06, 2013, 08:20:57 pm
I like, When ??
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: subie on May 06, 2013, 08:43:52 pm
Jy het alles en meer wat ek benodig. Daar moet net ys ,koue bier,hout en miskien braaipakke om te kan koop wees :ricky:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Sir Rat on May 06, 2013, 09:40:29 pm
What will the beer cost?  ;D
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 06, 2013, 10:18:36 pm
Jy het alles en meer wat ek benodig. Daar moet net ys ,koue bier,hout en miskien braaipakke om te kan koop wees :ricky:

In the last pic is an old SARH Goods/cattle car - that will be restored and will be filled with braaihout.
A local dairy will supply us with fresh "real" milk and the local butcher will make up special braaipacks for us to suit all. Ys no problem........ and berr also not......   :thumleft:

We're off to the UK the end of this month - one of the things to do is sell our flat in London......... (funds to be used on this project) and we hope to move back to SA the end of August.

If all goes well........... we hope to have the infrastructure setup by mid next year.......   :ricky:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Griffin on May 06, 2013, 11:09:53 pm
cooking on the ground or in a tent can become tedious. I would like a shelters place to prepare a meal and wash dishes.  A communal area would be fine.  Simple easy to clean work surfaces for preparing the meal and and to put camping stoves on.  Basins for washing vegetables and dishes.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: buzzlightyear on May 06, 2013, 11:23:04 pm
Nice Goose I hope it all works out well :thumleft:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Cave Girl on May 07, 2013, 07:03:39 am
That looks great! Hope all goes well. For us from far using it as a stop over and being a girl and all the one thing I really appreciate is a laundry, washing machine and tumble dryer. Nothing worse than being on a long wet trip and no "rest" day to get clean dry clothes ..... But I guess if its just aimed at the weekend stop over spot then a leaker big lapa area to kier in the wet unplanned wether is a plus  :)
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: JohnBoy on May 07, 2013, 07:18:03 am
Welcome, lots of bikers around here!!  And nice roads!!  A great property.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: WP on May 07, 2013, 08:14:27 am
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Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 07, 2013, 08:54:35 am
cooking on the ground or in a tent can become tedious. I would like a shelters place to prepare a meal and wash dishes.  A communal area would be fine.  Simple easy to clean work surfaces for preparing the meal and and to put camping stoves on.  Basins for washing vegetables and dishes.


On the section with the embankment - it's especially sheltered - here we though of putting an undercover area where you could sit and eat, socialise and braai.......... there will be plugpoints in this area where we could probably place a fridge and freezer for drinks etc.
Multiple plugpoints will also be placed all over the property for the convenience of the campers.

Basins with hot water & prep area's also planned ...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Mr Zog on May 07, 2013, 09:32:35 am
Something I found really nice in the Kruger Park was the boiling water points at each cooking/washing-up block. Instant boiling water for coffee, tea, etc. Great for that quick cuppa before a game drive at dawn.

What about a small concrete slab at each camp site to prevent bike stands sinking into the grass / earth and falling over?
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Operator on May 07, 2013, 09:54:09 am
Goose , I would suggest you build two or three so-called "private" spots somewhere on the edge of the premises to accommodate a
caravan or 4x4 with a rooftop tent.
Build fencing by cutting "latte" from alien plants/trees in the area
Like the enclosed camping spots at Fiddlers Creek at Vioolsdrift where the National Bash was held
in 2011.
It would just give you that option to attract people from other sectors of the market.

It is a noble idea, but realistically I doubt if it would be a viable venture just concentrating on bikers.

What is good about the address is that it is very central to use as a base for daytrips in all directions to explore
the southern Overberg area. :thumleft:


Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: woody1 on May 07, 2013, 10:16:28 am
All I need is the GPS coordinates to get there.... I am sure the rest will be a bonus.
I don't need to change my clothes that often when I ride...  :peepwall:
Looks lekker, hope it all pans out.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Ratt on May 07, 2013, 10:19:15 am
I like the idea of just a plain hut with a bunk bed. Normal 2x3 will do, with a little table inside for unpacking. Somee cheap sponge matress on it will do. And a light and plug point.

That'll be ideal, saves a lot of packing.

Affordability is also big on the list  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: subie on May 07, 2013, 10:25:28 am
All I need is the GPS coordinates to get there.... I am sure the rest will be a bonus.
I don't need to change my clothes that often when I ride...  :peepwall:
Looks lekker, hope it all pans out.

Nog n vuilgat  :imaposer:
Die broek waarmee ek n trip begin moet maar hele trip hou solank ek net skoon onderbroek en sokkies kan aantrek elke dag :eek7:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: woody1 on May 07, 2013, 10:30:52 am
Onderbroek kan mos 4 dae gaan...
1.Normaal.....
2. Binne toe buite toe.
3. Voorentoe - agtertoe
4. Agtertoe - vorentoe omgedraai....  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: jagter on May 07, 2013, 11:20:42 am
Google a place called 'Oppi Dam' in oudtshoorn.

Very nice campsite.

Each site consists of a split pole and corrugated iron 'gazebo'  with it's own kitchen, bathroom and under cover eating area. 
All the plumbing is plastic pipe, so nothing expensive.
Not all that expensive to build, and the fact that you have your own kitchen and ablution area is very handy. Also when on a bike you don't have to carry so much crap. Basically only a tent. (you can even get away with only taking a sleaping bag if you sleep in the 'kitchen')

(http://www.oppi-dam.co.za/images/camp01.jpg?1367918319833)


Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Crossed-up on May 07, 2013, 11:44:26 am
Bikers seem to like karkpraat round the fire.  A covered, all-weather lapa is great for that.
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Pistonpete on May 07, 2013, 11:45:47 am
Pete,
Have not read the entire thread however get the gist of it...
1. 4+ x Private campsites with basic amenities...roofed & stokkie fence.
2. ? x Wendy House type chalets with basic amenities
3. 6 x Open campsites with roof shelter & stokkie fence
4. 6 x Open campsites with stokkie kraal fence & no roof
5. A Central Lapa that feeds off the other campsites for communal gatherings without affecting their privacy. Fire pit with grids, brickwork...stokkie fence & partially roofed....tin/shade cloth, palmfronds...whatever...
6. A reception...shop and store Wendy's.
It's all going to take time...

An African Kraal theme/layout might work? As someone said the motorcyclists cannot sustain such a business so the car & 4x4 brigade must be catered for as they will make up the bulk of the continuum.
m2c
 ;D
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Crop Sprang on May 07, 2013, 11:49:49 am
places to hook up the hammock please
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Pistonpete on May 07, 2013, 12:29:19 pm
Pete,
Have not read the entire thread however get the gist of it...
1. 4+ x Private campsites with basic amenities...roofed & stokkie fence.
2. ? x Wendy House type chalets with basic amenities
3. 6 x Open campsites with roof shelter & stokkie fence
4. 6 x Open campsites with stokkie kraal fence & no roof
5. A Central Lapa that feeds off the other campsites for communal gatherings without affecting their privacy. Fire pit with grids, brickwork...stokkie fence & partially roofed....tin/shade cloth, palmfronds...whatever...
6. A reception...shop and store Wendy's.
It's all going to take time...

An African Kraal theme/layout might work? As someone said the motorcyclists cannot sustain such a business so the car & 4x4 brigade must be catered for as they will make up the bulk of the continuum.
m2c
 ;D
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 07, 2013, 12:38:51 pm
This is what makes this forum amazing chaps....  every response has been good positive input, which is seriously appreciated.

Some additional background............

We're looking at selling our house in Cape Town as well as the small flat in London. We no longer wish to live in a city and even a "town" is too big and commercial - so a dorpie/village is what it's about.
The campsite is NOT going to be our main income at all......... my wife still has good client's that she'll do work for (including Distell  ;)) and I'll probably still carry on and do Insurance assessments and some electronic work as our main income.
What we wanted to do is find a property that would allow us that move - and hopefully have additional, appealing land that could be converted as a campsite etc. We met with various businesses and people at the municipality and were told that they'd welcome the facility that would allow much needed accomodation space for tourists, mountain bike events, village fairs, normal campers and limited caravans. This "little"  business will then be handed to some of our friends that have fallen on hard times to manage and promote.....

That old movie with Kevin Costner mentioned the phrase "If you build it - they will come" ......... and we firmly believe a venture or facility like this will be well supported.
The wife's also going to be ensuring that the ladies are catered for in more ways than one.  :thumleft:

A washroom will also allow ironing facilities, washing and dying facilities and I have a lekker design for a cupboard to dry your bike-boots in record time (without any heat - so no damage)

We will also have a large trailer on standby that could be made available for breakdowns etc and the workshop/shop I intend building (mainly for some R&D) will have repair facilities...

So a lot to think about, funding to be arranged - also waiting for Overberg municipality to confirm certain criteria and also the river (at the bottom of the property) floodline.

Taking note of all the input - I do like the idea of having Semi-permanent tents on raised platforms, which will keep you dry and off the ground..... 8)

THANKS for all the input!!  
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: jagter on May 07, 2013, 01:08:34 pm
Just one thing. If you plan on doing any other productive work. Make sure you can get a decent internet connection.

I made a similar move (Europe to a farm near Plett) and that proved to be the biggest challenge
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Goose on May 07, 2013, 02:50:42 pm
Just one things. If you plan on doing any other productive work. Make sure you can get a decent internet connection.

I made a similar move (Europe to a farm near Plett) and that proved to be the biggest challenge


Sorted - our mates already living in the area have faster ADSL connection than we have in the centre of Cape Town......... something to do with low volume via their Telephone exchange
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Pistonpete on May 07, 2013, 02:52:43 pm
Just one things. If you plan on doing any other productive work. Make sure you can get a decent internet connection.

I made a similar move (Europe to a farm near Plett) and that proved to be the biggest challenge


Sorted - our mates already living in the area have faster ADSL connection than we have in the centre of Cape Town......... something to do with low volume via their Telephone exchange

What...like a crank handle to flash it up?  ;D
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: WP on May 07, 2013, 04:54:41 pm
Just a thought...

But a type of wash bay, where one can hose off your bike after a days riding would be quite nice...
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Pistonpete on May 07, 2013, 04:56:52 pm
Just a thought...

But a type of wash bay, where one can hose off your bike after a days riding would be quite nice...

 :sip:
Title: Re: Biker friendly Camping in the Overberg......... what's needed?
Post by: Marvin on July 12, 2013, 06:37:12 am
My family used to run a campsite like you are planning, also in the Overberg area. A few things we have learned:

1) Shade Shade Shade. In the warmer months the sun is really bad, and its hell coming back to a oven-like tent or gazibo.
2) Well thought out and clean facilities are key.
3) A good booking system to avoid over booking.
4) As mentioned previously, different accomodation options.
5) A place to cool off after a day of riding, be it a splash pool or a swimming hole in the river.
6) Pre-set campsite "rules". We found that some people come out to the "platteland" with the idea to really party, while others came for peace and quite. These two groups does NOT get along, and makes for unhappy customers.

I'm loving your idea, and I'm really excited about it. Goodluck!