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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Geelbek on November 27, 2007, 02:02:27 pm

Title: Long Way Down
Post by: Geelbek on November 27, 2007, 02:02:27 pm
I picked up a copy of Long Way Down yesterday. Written by Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman of Long Way Round and Race to Dakar fame.

It is a great read....hope I can do something similar before clocking out one day. 

I read Long Way Round over the Chrstmas break in 2005 and ended up buyingmy GS shortly afterwards.

Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: GS-holic on November 27, 2007, 02:10:24 pm
Almost through it - must say I enjoyed LWR more. It seems that in LWD there are gaps in the telling especially towards the end.  I assume it is to serve as a motivation to buy the dvd.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Geelbek on November 27, 2007, 03:18:58 pm
I agree, they sucker me every time. I orered the DVD this morning from Amazon. I find I enjoy watching bikes more than reading about them....
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Kev on November 27, 2007, 04:50:39 pm
There bit torrents out there for the BBC series currently running on BBC. I think the 1st 4 or 5 episodes are out there already.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on November 27, 2007, 04:52:51 pm
I must agree I enjoyed Long Way Round more. But it is always nice to read about any trips!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: m0lt3n on July 10, 2013, 09:36:38 pm
Did a quick search and found some threads, so thought it better to revive an old thread than start a new one...

I just watched both series in 3 days and loved it. I would have loved more on the bikes itself, there is not much technical info in the series but I guess thats okay.
Impressive is how they stay possitive in difficult situations or after a fall. Also awesome friendship they got.
I see there is some negative feedback on the series, but I must say I liked it. I wouldve liked more footage of the last parts theyrode though
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: spoedvark on July 10, 2013, 10:47:37 pm
Still need to read/watch these!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 10, 2013, 11:48:34 pm
There is a lot of guys who are all blah blah negative about them, but The Long Way Down is the reason why I got into long distance touring and inspired my Africa Trip. I loved the series.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 11, 2013, 03:07:03 am
There is a lot of guys who are all blah blah negative about them, but The Long Way Down is the reason why I got into long distance touring and inspired my Africa Trip. I loved the series.

Yip me too, never saw them all but the ones I saw looked like a few guys having a lot of fun. The folks who rip old Charlie off of course are mostly  seriously hardcore keyboard jockys with pristine, unridden bikes in their garages. ::)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: J3THRO on July 11, 2013, 04:29:00 am
Reckon the negative comments is more jealousy than anything else.

These 2 guys did UK - SA , around the globe + had a go at the Dakar.
Here is the good part.
They were given stunning brand new bikes + gear, they got 2 back up vehicles following them, they had BMW's support through it all and they are still making LOADS of money from the footage and books. In fact I think Charlie is still doing a thing on tv with motorbikes traveling all over the globe with a beemer. Is that any biker's wet dream or what.

Any two other guys that can organise that will have my respect also.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: evansv on July 11, 2013, 04:36:08 am
I watched the entire series of Long Way Round a couple of Sundays ago. I've watched it a couple of times & love it. I've got Long Way Down on DVD. It's currently with my brother in law in CT. Sounds like a good excuse to go & fetch it! ;D
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Mzee on July 11, 2013, 05:01:19 am
I read the Long Way Down and decided to do my own.  http://mzee-jaki.blogspot.com/2009/10/everyone-has-dream.html
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: jaybiker on July 11, 2013, 08:56:13 am
If I ever had the finance or the opportunity to do that kind of trip, I've let it pass me by, so it's too late now.
That's why for me, the long way down means falling off my pig!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: LouisXander on July 11, 2013, 08:58:06 am
I hate both of the frikking videos!!!    It just makes you wanna ride.................and gets you thinking why you are doing a 9-5 job!!

Bloody assholes!!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Geotraveller on July 11, 2013, 09:00:09 am
Loved both series, do yourself a favour and get Ted Simon's book as well. Jupiter's Travels, that's another goodie.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: McEloff on July 11, 2013, 10:09:38 am
Loved both series, do yourself a favour and get Ted Simon's book as well. Jupiter's Travels, that's another goodie.

Agreed, makes for a very good read.

My personal favorite adventure travel books I have found so far was the ones by Sam Manicom http://www.sam-manicom.com/ (http://www.sam-manicom.com/)
I even had the pleasure of meeting the guy (after I read his books) at the Birmingham Bike show 2 years ago, very nice guy.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Gérrard on July 11, 2013, 10:19:00 am
Loved both series, do yourself a favour and get Ted Simon's book as well. Jupiter's Travels, that's another goodie.

Some one called ?

Read 'Dreaming of Jupiter' first and then read 'Jupiter's Travels' It tells the story better that way. Then to understand Ted Simon, read 'The Gypsy in Me"
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Hammerhead on July 11, 2013, 10:27:43 am
Channel surfing last night, I came accross "Middle Kingdom Ride" on the Travel channel.
Two guys riding China on GS800 's.
Enjoyed it - but then again I'll watch almost anything bike related :)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Pom on July 11, 2013, 10:38:07 am
Tick tock - Waiting for the Boorman and BMW hate brigade ;)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: XTZFegen on July 11, 2013, 10:39:47 am
I picked up a copy of Long Way Down yesterday. Written by Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman of Long Way Round and Race to Dakar fame.

It is a great read....hope I can do something similar before clocking out one day. 

I read Long Way Round over the Chrstmas break in 2005 and ended up buyingmy GS shortly afterwards.



If KTM played teh game you would have bought a KTM shortly after readingthe book  :lol8:  :lol8:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: 1ougat on July 11, 2013, 10:42:15 am
I picked up a copy of Long Way Down yesterday. Written by Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman of Long Way Round and Race to Dakar fame.

It is a great read....hope I can do something similar before clocking out one day. 

I read Long Way Round over the Chrstmas break in 2005 and ended up buyingmy GS shortly afterwards.



If KTM played teh game you would have bought a KTM shortly after readingthe book  :lol8:  :lol8:


Yes eben KTM said that this was their greatest fowl up .... jees they asked them first and it is on the videos  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Dwerg on July 11, 2013, 10:44:49 am
I'll watch almost anything bike related :)

Same here. Hell, I even watched Woema, widely known to be the most boring show ever created.

And I'll read anything bike related I can find too. Read a book a while back about an oke who rode a crappy diesel bike around Australia even though a lot of the book was about how his cat suffers from dementia  :patch:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Lem on July 11, 2013, 07:14:52 pm
while I was injuired last year, my wife bought me Long Way Round & Long Way down.

out of the two, I've enjoyed LWR the most.....and not just because they used 1150 GSAs

The LWD trip was a bit of a rush, because it was just another job for these okes. They spent lots of time in the Northern Half, but missed almost everything there is to see below the equator.

Then I read Charlie's "By Any Means, Wicklow to Wollongong", I can highly reccomend this book. Thouroughly enjoyed it, wasn't so rushed as the bike trip only books.

And lastly I've read Race to Dakar. Really good read. Some real war stories in that book.

For now I'm done with Charley's writing style, will read the other By An Means in a year or so. For now, I'd like that book, Circumnavigating the Great Karoo (unsure about the author, but he wrote about his rides on a Yamaha XT250)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: mtr89 on July 11, 2013, 07:40:20 pm
I really enjoyed both LWR and LWD,watched both of them many times.Would kill to do what they did.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: m0lt3n on July 11, 2013, 11:34:14 pm
Why do the bike shops not stock these books!? There is a lot of nice books being mentioned but ive never seen them for sale. I know buying online is an option but my wife doesnt look for my bday and xmas gifts online!

They didnt do any of the routes in south africa. A shame, maybe we dont have a dessert but we do have some nice spots
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 12, 2013, 10:10:16 am
Why do the bike shops not stock these books!?

The easy answer to that is because they collect dust in bike shops, I have seen some bike shops selling books but they are not fast movers.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Buddy on July 12, 2013, 12:42:34 pm
If the two poms want to do another epic, maybe they should retrace their routes on KLR 650's  ;D
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Johannes on July 12, 2013, 01:59:17 pm
Boorman is an awesome guy I rode with him for 2 days on a trip met him by luck 8) he is a baddass he broke his wristSSS yes both in the afternoon of the DAKAR and he still finished the day!! respect :thumleft:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: SOPWITH on July 12, 2013, 03:23:27 pm
I watched the entire series of Long Way Round a couple of Sundays ago. I've watched it a couple of times & love it. I've got Long Way Down on DVD. It's currently with my brother in law in CT. Sounds like a good excuse to go & fetch it! ;D

why so that you can also do the "long way down" and back  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Geotraveller on July 13, 2013, 01:11:48 pm
while I was injuired last year, my wife bought me Long Way Round & Long Way down.

out of the two, I've enjoyed LWR the most.....and not just because they used 1150 GSAs

The LWD trip was a bit of a rush, because it was just another job for these okes. They spent lots of time in the Northern Half, but missed almost everything there is to see below the equator.

Then I read Charlie's "By Any Means, Wicklow to Wollongong", I can highly reccomend this book. Thouroughly enjoyed it, wasn't so rushed as the bike trip only books.

And lastly I've read Race to Dakar. Really good read. Some real war stories in that book.

For now I'm done with Charley's writing style, will read the other By An Means in a year or so. For now, I'd like that book, Circumnavigating the Great Karoo (unsure about the author, but he wrote about his rides on a Yamaha XT250)

Nick Yell wrote that, great read, he still does articles for some of the magazines.

Busy with "Is that bike a diesel mat?" by Paul Carter. Very funny read about an attempt to ride around Aus on an experimental bike running on bio fuel. He is a funny man anyway as you would expect from a guy who also wrote "Don't tell Mum I work on the rigs, she thinks I am a piano player in a whorehouse".
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 17, 2015, 12:28:12 pm
Yeh, old thread and all-I know.

Just finished watching Long way down again for the 2 nd time. It still is an amazing  tour to watch

Anyway, started thinking - how many guys on this here forum actually joined when they arrived at Cape Agulhas in 2007? How was it organised that there were so many bikers there?
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: katana on February 17, 2015, 12:38:32 pm
I was there with my Katana
Only watched it after I bought my GS for tips
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 17, 2015, 12:47:24 pm
Hey okes!!! Did you see this?!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/v/eX5O-ZlWe9g
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: sidetrack on February 17, 2015, 01:13:00 pm
.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 17, 2015, 01:33:39 pm
Shocking right? Think KTM kicked their own arses after this became public
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Gérrard on February 17, 2015, 01:38:05 pm
Again ?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 17, 2015, 02:46:39 pm
Again ?  :imaposer:

Forever!!!  :lol8:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 17, 2015, 02:47:31 pm
Goundhog Day  ::)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 17, 2015, 03:33:03 pm
Again ?  :imaposer:
Ad infinitum...
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: jaybiker on February 17, 2015, 05:30:19 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: whitedelight on February 17, 2015, 09:49:33 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:

What the fuck you smoking?? Plenty KTM's out there with big milage on them. You do know that of the three BMW's two of them ended up with cracked frames, and one them never even completed the journey. In all fairness they would have been better off on the KTM's.
But then they would have been fine on Africa Twins.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Copernicus on February 18, 2015, 11:24:35 am
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:

What the fuck you smoking?? Plenty KTM's out there with big milage on them. You do know that of the three BMW's two of them ended up with cracked frames, and one them never even completed the journey. In all fairness they would have been better off on the KTM's.
But then they would have been fine on Africa Twins.
In the end it was not about the bikes - it was about a person who made a choice, right or wrong.  But it definitely yielded results for BMW, something that KTM may have regretted later.  But it is all in the past now.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 11:27:13 am
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:

What the fuck you smoking?? Plenty KTM's out there with big milage on them. You do know that of the three BMW's two of them ended up with cracked frames, and one them never even completed the journey. In all fairness they would have been better off on the KTM's.
But then they would have been fine on Africa Twins.

How did you measure this?

Any KTM's do the same trip?

I don't really give a shit what bikes they used, I enjoyed watching the DVD's, but the strange opinions voiced about their trips has been more entertaining than the trips themselves  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: cocky on February 18, 2015, 11:32:04 am
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 11:35:03 am
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Gérrard on February 18, 2015, 11:47:32 am
Ja-nee.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 11:54:38 am
Ja-nee.

 :imaposer: net so.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: LDV on February 18, 2015, 12:58:47 pm
Hul gatte sou defenitief seerser gewees het op ktm. Ek kom nou terug van 2 weke trip van elke dag ry. En kani eers op kantoor stoel sit nie


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Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: cocky on February 18, 2015, 01:02:34 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Luister nou badprop, die punt wat die muffin vreeter gemaak het was oor die myle ...... daai twee het anyway nooit daai kak gelaai of saam gery nie, daar is n X5 en n Nissan Patrol wat saam gery het.
Lees die hele verhaal, moet nie soos iemand wees wat 7de Laan kyk nie.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Stofdonkie on February 18, 2015, 01:03:37 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.

Weld dan aan die frame sonder om die battery te ontkoppel, fry die electrics (alhoewel die bike nog start en ry) en dan 'het die bike dit nie gemaak nie'.

 ::)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on February 18, 2015, 01:06:13 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Luister nou badprop, die punt wat die muffin vreeter gemaak het was oor die myle ...... daai twee het anyway nooit daai kak gelaai of saam gery nie, daar is n X5 en n Nissan Patrol wat saam gery het.
Lees die hele verhaal, moet nie soos iemand wees wat 7de Laan kyk nie.
Dis n lae hou.................................................................wat het jy teen 7de laan kykers? :peepwall: ;)
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: cocky on February 18, 2015, 01:09:36 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Luister nou badprop, die punt wat die muffin vreeter gemaak het was oor die myle ...... daai twee het anyway nooit daai kak gelaai of saam gery nie, daar is n X5 en n Nissan Patrol wat saam gery het.
Lees die hele verhaal, moet nie soos iemand wees wat 7de Laan kyk nie.
Dis n lae hou.................................................................wat het jy teen 7de laan kykers? :peepwall: ;)
Niks nie, hulle is soos mense wat Huisgenoot lees, glo alles want dit was op TV of in die Huisgenoot.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 01:14:28 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Luister nou badprop, die punt wat die muffin vreeter gemaak het was oor die myle ...... daai twee het anyway nooit daai kak gelaai of saam gery nie, daar is n X5 en n Nissan Patrol wat saam gery het.
Lees die hele verhaal, moet nie soos iemand wees wat 7de Laan kyk nie.

Jy kan dieselfde myl coffee shop toe en terug 100000 keer ry soos jy, of 100000 keer verskillende myle op kak paaie ry - die eerste een tel nog steeds niks.

Aan die einde van die dag het die BMW's die trip gedoen, met hulle support, muffins en so aan terwyl KTM dit ook maar soos ons almal op tv moes volg en die bikes in die showroom bly staan het :ricky:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 01:21:12 pm
Ek sweer die gesprek lyk erg bekend, so asof dit al voorheen afgespeel het.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Welsh on February 18, 2015, 01:44:46 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:

What the fuck you smoking?? Plenty KTM's out there with big milage on them. You do know that of the three BMW's two of them ended up with cracked frames, and one them never even completed the journey. In all fairness they would have been better off on the KTM's.
But then they would have been fine on Africa Twins.

Definitely not a KTM bash, but I think a word of caution on the KTM would have been so much better, assuming we are talking the 950. The 950 was only launched in 2003 and the LWR was in 2004, it is fine to mention the high mileage 950's but the early models 2003 and 2004 were definitely not without their problems, from head bolts to fuel and water pumps.

There is no way anyone can say how those early model 950's would have done or not done, no matter how good they are once sorted  :thumleft:.   

But I agree on the Africa Twin :biggrin:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 18, 2015, 04:56:49 pm
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Gawd you guys are predictable!!!!

Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 05:06:37 pm
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Gifs/ricky-gervais-hysterical-laughter_zps8cjutknh.gif) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Gifs/ricky-gervais-hysterical-laughter_zps8cjutknh.gif.html)

Gawd you guys are predictable!!!!



True, the "1200GS rider did not greet me" thread is imminent, closely followed by a CoG thread.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 18, 2015, 05:21:19 pm
This thread is headed for a short way down
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Cremaster on February 18, 2015, 06:07:43 pm

Definitely not a KTM bash, but I think a word of caution on the KTM would have been so much better, assuming we are talking the 950. The 950 was only launched in 2003 and the LWR was in 2004, it is fine to mention the high mileage 950's but the early models 2003 and 2004 were definitely not without their problems, from head bolts to fuel and water pumps.

There is no way anyone can say how those early model 950's would have done or not done, no matter how good they are once sorted  :thumleft:.   

But I agree on the Africa Twin :biggrin:

Yeah the early LC8s had their known teething issues: http://www.ktm950.info/how/ktm_950_issues.html (http://www.ktm950.info/how/ktm_950_issues.html)

I am still amazed by the perceived (assumptions of note) reliability differences between KTM and BMW. Both brands manufacture highly reliable motorcycles.

However:
I had problems with my former 2006 R1200GS: complete shaft crown failure.
I had problems with my former 2007 KTM 990 Adventure: sticky gearbox due to a little part that was abnormally worn...
And that's it. Both dealers handled the issues very professionally and was under warranty.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 18, 2015, 06:27:18 pm

Definitely not a KTM bash, but I think a word of caution on the KTM would have been so much better, assuming we are talking the 950. The 950 was only launched in 2003 and the LWR was in 2004, it is fine to mention the high mileage 950's but the early models 2003 and 2004 were definitely not without their problems, from head bolts to fuel and water pumps.

There is no way anyone can say how those early model 950's would have done or not done, no matter how good they are once sorted  :thumleft:.  

But I agree on the Africa Twin :biggrin:

Yeah the early LC8s had their known teething issues: http://www.ktm950.info/how/ktm_950_issues.html (http://www.ktm950.info/how/ktm_950_issues.html)

I am still amazed by the perceived (assumptions of note) reliability differences between KTM and BMW. Both brands manufacture highly reliable motorcycles.

However:
I had problems with my former 2006 R1200GS: complete shaft crown failure.
I had problems with my former 2007 KTM 990 Adventure: sticky gearbox due to a little part that was abnormally worn...
And that's it. Both dealers handled the issues very professionally and was under warranty.


Ag k@k man! Don't come here wiff facts!

You brand whore KTM riders need to wake up, your brand is k@k, Charlie Boorman said so!!!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: jaybiker on February 18, 2015, 07:21:51 pm
My thoughts were based upon the state of play existing at the time - 2004- and not based only on the engines ultimate mileage potential.
Today things have changed, and for the same reasons I would probably back an 1190 over a 1200.


But anyway, hey............how easy to become a troll, without actually meaning to!  :pot:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Bensien on February 18, 2015, 07:32:47 pm

You brand whore KTM riders need to wake up, your brand is k@k, Charlie Boorman said so!!!

He’s just suurgat because KTM only associate themselves with real riders, not wannabe posers.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 18, 2015, 07:38:11 pm

You brand whore KTM riders need to wake up, your brand is k@k, Charlie Boorman said so!!!

He’s just suurgat because KTM only associate themselves with real riders, not wannabe posers.

Pfft... says the lot who has branded dog bowls, toasters and pacifiers. And you call Harley riders posers.... please....
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 18, 2015, 07:59:54 pm
They did it on Beemers and they completed each trip. Maybe KTM would have made it as well, but we would never know because KTM themselves thought their bikes would fail...enough said...
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Bensien on February 18, 2015, 08:20:59 pm

You brand whore KTM riders need to wake up, your brand is k@k, Charlie Boorman said so!!!

He’s just suurgat because KTM only associate themselves with real riders, not wannabe posers.

Pfft... says the lot who has branded dog bowls, toasters and pacifiers. And you call Harley riders posers.... please....

I also have a KTM cuckoo clock.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 18, 2015, 08:27:55 pm
They did it on Beemers and they completed each trip. Maybe KTM would have made it as well, but we would never know because KTM themselves thought their bikes would fail...enough said...

Listen, you twats on your "marketing cycles" should not rek bek to much either..... these days a BMW bike has so much plastic strapped to it I don't know if I should ride it or take it to a tupperware party.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 08:30:04 pm

You brand whore KTM riders need to wake up, your brand is k@k, Charlie Boorman said so!!!

He’s just suurgat because KTM only associate themselves with real riders, not wannabe posers.

Pfft... says the lot who has branded dog bowls, toasters and pacifiers. And you call Harley riders posers.... please....

I also have a KTM cuckoo clock.

I raise you a KTM braai...

Posers, pfffft.....
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Draadwerk on February 18, 2015, 08:38:35 pm
They did it on Beemers and they completed each trip. Maybe KTM would have made it as well, but we would never know because KTM themselves thought their bikes would fail...enough said...

Listen, you twats on your "marketing cycles" should not rek bek to much either..... these days a BMW bike has so much plastic strapped to it I don't know if I should ride it or take it to a tupperware party.
Met dit kan ek nie stry nie. They Just don't make em like they used to
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: dieseldawie on February 18, 2015, 08:43:16 pm
Lodie De Jager did it on his own on a KLR.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Dries Bike on February 18, 2015, 08:49:03 pm
Die bottom line is Ktm het nie vertroue in hul produk gehad nie ,die bms ,met al die Maars en asse en ander  verskonings het long way round en down Gemaak en bly blykbaar met rede die bewildered keuse
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Garfield on February 18, 2015, 08:56:23 pm
Lodie De Jager did it on his own on a KLR.

WOW!!!!
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: TEXC on February 18, 2015, 09:03:49 pm
Look, this is neither defending one brand, nor bashing another, just my unbiased opinion, honestly. I really think that if the lads had been mounted on KTM's - superior dirt handlers though they may be -  they just wouldn't have been tough enough to go the distance.
It's a case of horses for courses, and those 1150 dreadnoughts were the better horse for that particular course at that time, though even one of them didn't make it. And I would have my doubts about present day 1200's - all plastic and gimmicks.
No, I reckon that had they been on KTM's at the time, then the trip would have had to be completed on three Russian 2-Smokes.  :peepwall:
You quite done talking kak now, had a BMW sponsored muffin and late??
My 990 has over 120 000 km's on it, most of it off road, Mark Hardy's 950 has even more on it. Google is your friend, best you do some research on both brands and the issues.

Ja maar nie jy of Mark laai 290kg se kak ook nog op die bike nie, laai die ding soos 'n Qua-qua bakkie en doen die trip dan praat ons weer.
Luister nou badprop, die punt wat die muffin vreeter gemaak het was oor die myle ...... daai twee het anyway nooit daai kak gelaai of saam gery nie, daar is n X5 en n Nissan Patrol wat saam gery het.
Lees die hele verhaal, moet nie soos iemand wees wat 7de Laan kyk nie.

hey watch it buddy...my vrou kyk 7de laan :biggrin:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: TEXC on February 18, 2015, 09:05:02 pm
They did it on Beemers and they completed each trip. Maybe KTM would have made it as well, but we would never know because KTM themselves thought their bikes would fail...enough said...

Listen, you twats on your "marketing cycles" should not rek bek to much either..... these days a BMW bike has so much plastic strapped to it I don't know if I should ride it or take it to a tupperware party.

wahahaha...mooi man :lol8:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grunder on December 17, 2020, 10:43:10 pm
Does anyone know of a link from which I could stream this series?
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Wild Hearted Son on December 18, 2020, 06:40:06 am
Does anyone know of a link from which I could stream this series?

https://soap2day.to/tv_aToyODk4Ow.html
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grunder on December 18, 2020, 09:28:37 am
Does anyone know of a link from which I could stream this series?

https://soap2day.to/tv_aToyODk4Ow.html
Thx
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Tiger8 on December 18, 2020, 02:43:35 pm
https://fmovies.to/

I have been watching their latest ride; Long Way Up. This they did on Electric Harley's, that were created for this trip and 2 Rivian Trucks, both Prototypes; 01 & 02.

I like their camaraderie and interaction. I reckon Harley Davidson's electric bike, Livewire, is about to take off. Not an HD fan, but they did a decent job on these bikes. There were many challenges to overcome with the R&D of both the Trucks and Bikes, but hats off to both companies for having the guts to attempt this and do it well.

Charlie has overcome some serious setback in the past couple of years and took on the challenge, despite these.



 
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grunder on December 18, 2020, 07:09:11 pm
https://fmovies.to/

I have been watching their latest ride; Long Way Up. This they did on Electric Harley's, that were created for this trip and 2 Rivian Trucks, both Prototypes; 01 & 02.

I like their camaraderie and interaction. I reckon Harley Davidson's electric bike, Livewire, is about to take off. Not an HD fan, but they did a decent job on these bikes. There were many challenges to overcome with the R&D of both the Trucks and Bikes, but hats off to both companies for having the guts to attempt this and do it well.

Charlie has overcome some serious setback in the past couple of years and took on the challenge, despite these.
Yeah I finished watching it yesterday. Was good...

Want to go back and watch the other two again
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: BuRP on December 18, 2020, 07:24:06 pm
https://fmovies.to/

Thank you for that site - but does one have to do something special to get it to work, to watch anything?
I only get a message "Server Error" hence me asking....
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 18, 2020, 07:54:11 pm
KTM wisely declined team whiner as they do not want to be associated with those sorts.

After all, people hanging out with BMW's and E-Harleys? Voertsek, KTM told them.
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grunder on December 30, 2020, 05:48:59 pm
KTM wisely declined team whiner as they do not want to be associated with those sorts.

After all, people hanging out with BMW's and E-Harleys? Voertsek, KTM told them.
'n regte ou draadsitter. Hier is KTM awesome, ander thread is hulle k@k   tisk tisk
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: funduro on January 08, 2021, 04:10:11 pm
I can never watch any of their adventures with a straight face after watching this:

Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 08, 2021, 04:52:11 pm
KTM wisely declined team whiner as they do not want to be associated with those sorts.

After all, people hanging out with BMW's and E-Harleys? Voertsek, KTM told them.
'n regte ou draadsitter. Hier is KTM awesome, ander thread is hulle k@k   tisk tisk

No, KTM weren't awesome, just awful.  At least to Tjalie, and that gives me some kicks. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: BuRP on January 11, 2021, 10:43:34 am
I can never watch any of their adventures with a straight face after watching this:



Thanks for posting this, first time I see this  :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Grunder on January 11, 2021, 10:56:03 am
I can never watch any of their adventures with a straight face after watching this:



Thanks for posting this, first time I see this  :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:


 :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

My heart goes out for Charlie.  He is really portrayed as a dumdum
Title: Re: Long Way Down
Post by: Lem on January 11, 2021, 10:56:34 am
I can never watch any of their adventures with a straight face after watching this:



Thanks for posting this, first time I see this  :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Yeah, yesterday I watched the full 9x 3 minute episodes. Really funny.  :imaposer: