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Title: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 30, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Can't this oke just pick a team.. *edit: I see it is already old news*

http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/other_classes/news/newsdetail.jsp?Component=tcm%3A78-536359&PageTitle=Yamaha+Signs+2013+Dakar+Rally+Champion+Cyril+Despres

Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 30, 2013, 09:11:52 pm
I would like to know in how far the actual factory is going to be involved.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 30, 2013, 10:28:12 pm
I am just miff he is not going to be with Honda.. he was our chance at getting right up there.

Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on May 30, 2013, 10:44:16 pm
He's gonna have to ride hard, because the Yamaha's are always under powered, compared to the rest.. even the R1!
 
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Buff on May 30, 2013, 10:54:27 pm
It's the Dakar, not a motoGP, skill, consistency and reliability win it, not out & out pace.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: BOER! on May 30, 2013, 10:59:18 pm
I still like Depressed.  Regardless of bike.  It would have been more interesting seeing him for Honda, maar ag nou ja.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: whitedelight on May 30, 2013, 10:59:52 pm
I reckon most race bikes are as good as the info given back to the engineers by the rider. I think Yamaha will come with a whole new package come January.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on May 30, 2013, 11:16:04 pm
It's the Dakar, not a motoGP, skill, consistency and reliability win it, not out & out pace.
Ja I know, just had to throw it in there.
:D
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: BOER! on May 30, 2013, 11:18:19 pm
I reckon most race bikes are as good as the info given back to the engineers by the rider. I think Yamaha will come with a whole new package come January.

yes and a plethora of remarks by Dan.  Hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on May 30, 2013, 11:20:19 pm
What annoys me is that they use these hybrid SX motors for Dakar.. unobtainium.
KTM uses a DOHC 450SX head (discontinued in the current SX lineup), mated to a wide ration 5 speed box, which is uncharacteristic for KTM.

Look like Yamaha is going a similar route with their YZ450 rally bike.

Honda is the only brand that actually uses a shockingly close to stock CRF450X motor!
Honda, jou lekke ding!

It might sound like fan-boy talk, but by simply fitting a 2002 CRF cam to the 450X in my garage, adding an IMS tank and tuning the suspension, I have a 95% JCR Baja bike!
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on May 30, 2013, 11:39:31 pm
Check hoe special is hierdie video:
Peterhansel en Despres op die ou bike en nuwe een!
https://www.youtube.com/v/I4pXgRpihKw
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 30, 2013, 11:45:28 pm
It's the Dakar, not a motoGP, skill, consistency and reliability win it, not out & out pace.

Are you saying that you don't need skill, consistancy and relaibility to win MotoGP??, I have to disagree, you need that to win any race or championship.

Flip but that was a nice video  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Buff on May 31, 2013, 07:32:32 am
It's the Dakar, not a motoGP, skill, consistency and reliability win it, not out & out pace.

Are you saying that you don't need skill, consistancy and relaibility to win MotoGP??, I have to disagree, you need that to win any race or championship.

Flip but that was a nice video  :thumleft:

How did you deduce that off my post? Of course you need all those, and probably a few more.
All I'm saying is you don't need out and out pace, that's been proven by Robbie Gordon numerous times. It's very seldom you can open a dirt bike flat taps while trying to navigate through a desert. Yes, there are sections where you can but I don't think that'll be the deciding factor.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Crossed-up on May 31, 2013, 07:35:04 am
Great vid!
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Pistonpete on May 31, 2013, 08:30:33 am
Good news for Yamaha.... :thumleft: I'm sure they will make a great team 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 31, 2013, 09:57:32 pm
Bob Hannah, Heiki Mikkola, Stefan Everts, Stefan Peterhansel, Wayne rainey, Kenny Roberts, Valentino Rossi, Eddie Lawson, Max Biaggi, the list of top racers taken to the top by Yamaha is endless.
Welcome Cyril Despres.

Now the others are in a COMA. :ricky:
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Vis Arend on May 31, 2013, 10:25:50 pm
What a great Vid.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on May 31, 2013, 11:40:23 pm
Bob Hannah, Heiki Mikkola, Stefan Everts, Stefan Peterhansel, Wayne rainey, Kenny Roberts, Valentino Rossi, Eddie Lawson, Max Biaggi, the list of top racers taken to the top by Yamaha is endless.
Welcome Cyril Despres.

Now the others are in a COMA. :ricky:

Dis waar maar, in die laaste paar jaar was daar nie veel aan die gang in die Yamaha kamp nie. Ja Lorenzo is champ maar dis pretty mundane gewees.
KTM is (all dirtbike championships considered), die baas van dirtbiking en Honda die baas van motoGP
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 01, 2013, 06:25:40 pm
Bob Hannah, Heiki Mikkola, Stefan Everts, Stefan Peterhansel, Wayne rainey, Kenny Roberts, Valentino Rossi, Eddie Lawson, Max Biaggi, the list of top racers taken to the top by Yamaha is endless.
Welcome Cyril Despres.

Now the others are in a COMA. :ricky:

Dis waar maar, in die laaste paar jaar was daar nie veel aan die gang in die Yamaha kamp nie. Ja Lorenzo is champ maar dis pretty mundane gewees.
KTM is (all dirtbike championships considered), die baas van dirtbiking en Honda die baas van motoGP

Dit is so, en dis ook maar die patroon oor die laaste 40 jaar. Roger de Coster en Suzuki wen alle MX vir 5 jaar, GP kom Wayne Rainey, Kenny Roberts en Eddie lawson weer skoonmaak met Yamaha, Honda GP bikes met Wayne Gardner en Michael Doohan maak toe weer vir n paar jaar skoon, so gaan dit maar aan.
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: swart skaap on June 01, 2013, 08:20:49 pm
:thumleft:
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: sidetrack on June 02, 2013, 10:18:01 am
1:40 -> Nee kyk daai dude kan bike ry  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: jpcussen on June 02, 2013, 05:24:53 pm
Pity about the bike, ugly looking thing....

I am sure it rides like a treat
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: BatmanGS on June 02, 2013, 07:07:24 pm
MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My 2 cents...................... its the battle of the cheque book

Its's a pity that the Dakar/ Marathoen racing is limited to these 450cc bikes, as no manufacturer is going to build the ultimate DS bike suited for our conditions inless there is a motorsport need for them.

Example
KTM 950SE, BMW HP2.
Realistically we have only one choice if you're doing 80% dirt.

The costs of developing customer versions of other bikes to suit the needs of the more Dirt Sport type of rider is too great and the market is too limited............... they say.................!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Title: Re: Yamaha sign Cyril Despres
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 02, 2013, 07:09:39 pm
manufacturers have built the ultimate DS bike.. I just can't afford it.  :deal: