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Title: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 10:48:46 am
After reading this post I thought, lets start a thread for general discussion for us wannabees, with some help along the way from the manne who can

I would also like to know what it feels like to ride something like this. How do we mere mortals compare to the pros?

Will it ever be possible for a weekend rider to use this bike to get up ledges etc? The pro's make it look so easy, that's why I would like to know how it compares to your regular enduro bike

Ask me a gain a year from now. I'v always enjoyed slow technical and dare say I'm fairly skilled at it. Trials riding has always been something I've wanted to do, but life kept on interrupting, and only now did I get a bike. A Sherco 290.

Been on one "ride" and man did it hurt. Did some nice little climbs and stuff. Yes I think one can pick up some skill, no matter why you do it. I'll never be Tony Bou, but I want to learn and enjoy it. Don't know if I'll compete though.

I'm am very fortunate to have Tony Orey, former SA Champ, as my "coach". What a nice guy, and boy can he ride.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 10:52:07 am
O yes ! A pic and my son playing around in the yard. Anything to get him out the room away from his computer.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Dwerg on July 16, 2013, 10:53:46 am
 :happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 16, 2013, 01:38:59 pm
You've done a lot more than many of us already Jupiter. Tell us more please, and what you have been learning to do.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 01:46:52 pm
You've done a lot more than many of us already Jupiter. Tell us more please, and what you have been learning to do.

I would over the years have given a lot to swap you for one enduro race.  :thumleft: But that's past now, so I'm really looking forward to my rock-hopping.

Sofar its just balance excercises, static and moving. Other important excercise is a controlled front wheel lift. Body position is most important and effects everything you do on the bike.

Next I have to learn, unlike DS riding, is shorter focus where I look. I tend to follow my training and look too far ahead. In this the target is usually right in front of you. So its short focus shifts, not fixating and its quick.

But first, balance !
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on July 16, 2013, 02:08:24 pm


But first, balance !

and a helmet... those beasties get away from you very quickly when thing go slightly wrong....

Don't ask how I know.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on July 16, 2013, 02:19:42 pm
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Dwerg on July 16, 2013, 02:24:13 pm
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.

Thanks. There is not much around my place that I can't ride with my 800 so no point in doing that on a trials bike
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 02:24:32 pm


But first, balance !

and a helmet... those beasties get away from you very quickly when thing go slightly wrong....

Don't ask how I know.

Yip, the laaite says, "I'm just going to play a bit" but won't realise thats the most dangerous. The helmet is there.

I have a nice garden for training. That tree has three roots of different hight sticking out. Every afternoon we take one excercise and practice for 15 minutes.

And then accross the road from me, in a river valley is an awesome training area. Lots of varied terrain where you can keep yourself busy for hours in a short space. Some of it will make the best's eyes water.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 02:48:04 pm
Some points of note by espresso in answaer to Pom17's question :

Trials bikes are the most advanced of offroad bikes. they can do ANYTHING and go ANYWHERE - if you know how to ride them.
The steering is very very direct - at first you have to concentrate just to go in a straight line.
The steering stops are almost non existant - a bit disconcerting at first.
The footpegs are very far back - if your weight isn't in the right place wheelie time!
The accelleration (torque) is fierce.
Braking is sharp - one finger only.
The trials tyres grip almost all the time. Forget about power slides.

There is quite a lot to get used to but it doesn't take that long to ride around and hop the odd log.
Jumping up ledges............................yeeeeeeew.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Takashi on July 16, 2013, 03:25:56 pm
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.

At the back of the Big Red Barn in olifantsfontein.

They have some nice concrete pipes and logs setup.
I usually see guys practicing on saturday mornings when I do trail running there.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: subie on July 16, 2013, 03:55:19 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 04:28:58 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trailriding :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Trail riding doen ek al van jonks af... nou wil ek trials doen
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: subie on July 16, 2013, 04:31:40 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trailriding :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Trail riding doen ek al van jonks af... nou wil ek trials doen

Ok het gaan regmaak  :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Dwerg on July 16, 2013, 04:38:34 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: WP on July 16, 2013, 04:54:44 pm
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 06:24:11 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:

Nou soek jy darem vir open season om oor ander ouens se gestaltes te praat... jy weet, die feit dat die bike se sit net 18" van die grond af is en kort ouens, ens.  8)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: subie on July 16, 2013, 07:00:14 pm
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:

Ek is eintlik nie so dik soos ek lyk nie  :xxbah:

 :lol8:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 16, 2013, 07:25:32 pm
If I had the spare cash I would buy one of these bikes  tomorrow!

Please keep on sharing your experiences and tips etc, its very interesting.  You are very lucky having a top notch instructor available to learn it all from right from the start!

Most of the top riders enduro riders in the world have a trials back ground - just goes to show that once you learn these skills, you can transfer them to other off road bikes - invaluable IMO :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 16, 2013, 08:09:17 pm
During National Service in Oudtshoorn I had a XR200 R Honda, which I used to play around the mountains with. In one paticular spot there was a lot of dongas where I could enjoy excersizing technical skills. It was a matter of learn to stay on top or come  off. I came off a lot. I always head a zing for it and the dream of a proper trials bike and riding started.

After NS we lived on a small holding where I build myself an obstacle track. Some serious stuff. Remember I was young and invinsible. By now the 200 had lost most of its original body parts, as I had gone through my learning curve and I stripped it to bare essentials.

Untill this day it was some of the best fun I ever had on a bike. I hope to have it again now.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 17, 2013, 12:09:26 am
Get your instructor to take some pics, of you going through the motions, this thread needs a few, jups.  ;)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: White Rhino on July 17, 2013, 06:10:19 am
Nice one Jupiter - I also decided to give trials a go - Beta 290. Just not getting the time.  >:(
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 08:05:31 am
Get your instructor to take some pics, of you going through the motions, this thread needs a few, jups.  ;)

Will do that, but at the moment both cameras are in for repairs and I don't have the cell phone thing.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 08:17:57 am
Nice one Jupiter - I also decided to give trials a go - Beta 290. Just not getting the time.  >:(

One just makes the time. When I get into something like this, and I have lots of this'es, I book a spot for it. Every afternoon, after I had my coffe and changed clothes, its 15 min practice and every Saturday afternoon at 1530 its playtime, and the rest gets arranged around it.

OK, I do have a lot of time for myself to arrange my life, but that's what you gotta do. Set the time aside and DO IT.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on July 17, 2013, 08:24:38 am
Very nice Jupiter...been playing with the idea for a while.

The pros for trails (compared to Enduro) is compelling..cheap start up, comparatively low maintenance, you can actually do it in your back yard due to small space required and low noise.

Obviously the gain in technical prowess on two wheels is huge and a bonus.

Will be watching this Palooka to Pro thread    :thumleft:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on July 17, 2013, 08:38:20 am
Nice one Jupiter - I also decided to give trials a go - Beta 290. Just not getting the time.  >:(

One just makes the time. When I get into something like this, and I have lots of this'es, I book a spot for it. Every afternoon, after I had my coffe and changed clothes, its 15 min practice and every Saturday afternoon at 1530 its playtime, and the rest gets arranged around it.

OK, I do have a lot of time for myself to arrange my life, but that's what you gotta do. Set the time aside and DO IT.

Toe my pa se kniee dit nog toe gelaat het om tennis te speel het hy altyd gese n boer wat nie op n staerdag kan tennis speel nie weet nie hoe om te beplan nie :lol8:

En natuurlik. Iemand wat op n Vrydag werk het nie deur die week gewerk nie :imaposer:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 08:39:30 am
Like I say, just do it. Don't make like me and wait 30 years, with all sorts of 'valid' excuses.


Come guys, this thread is for all us wannabees. Gooi your piccies and stories too.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 02:56:34 pm
A question for the slim manne.

I'm now shopping for a set of trials boots. Looking to get GAR. Told for the money its as good as you get.

Now... polished black or the softer suede type ? Would I, as a beginner, really know the difference.

One consideration I have is that I don't have proper riding boots at all and do trips and tours with my vellies. I'm told the polished black does give more protection and can therefore use them for my other riding as well.

I like value out of my money.

What you think ?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on July 17, 2013, 03:04:04 pm
A question for the slim manne.

I'm now shopping for a set of trials boots. Looking to get GAR. Told for the money its as good as you get.

Now... polished black or the softer suede type ? Would I, as a beginner, really know the difference.

One consideration I have is that I don't have proper riding boots at all and do trips and tours with my vellies. I'm told the polished black does give more protection and can therefore use them for my other riding as well.

I like value out of my money.

What you think ?

Die antwoord is vellies  :deal:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s397/Pom1717/tumblr_m4de0yk1eh1qdvn8ro1_500_zpsd4f26ff0.jpg) (http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/Pom1717/media/tumblr_m4de0yk1eh1qdvn8ro1_500_zpsd4f26ff0.jpg.html)

Ok jammer oom Jup, ek het nou nie regtig enige bydrae te maak hier nie :-[
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 03:07:50 pm
Arm man het nie style nie  :spitcoffee: Ek het net die een paar skoene, dra by die huis, werk en bike ry. Smaak nie moeite van kies wat om te dra nie.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on July 17, 2013, 03:12:10 pm
Jupiter ... here are some nice sites you might enjoy

http://trialstrainingcenter.com/ (http://trialstrainingcenter.com/)

http://www.trialscentral.com/ (http://www.trialscentral.com/)

Hey Grim ... don't be such a stranger man ... come ride with at Olifants once in a while ... they have added some really nice new bits and pieces  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 03:13:57 pm
Thanks. Will have a look later.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on July 17, 2013, 03:20:32 pm
Trail boots are quite soft, and designed to compliment the tight pants...

(http://www.plazadeportiva.com/bd/imagenes/imagen1020g.jpg)

I believe your wifes stretchy jeans will compliment the vellies.

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on July 17, 2013, 03:35:08 pm
Hey Grim ... don't be such a stranger man ... come ride with at Olifants once in a while ... they have added some really nice new bits and pieces  :thumleft:

Saturday mornings aren't really an option for me at the moment...
Come back to your roots and ride at my place :)

edit:

And trials boots offer great grip & flexibility for when you need to get the most out of putting your foot down, but not so much in the "protection from dropping a ds bike on your ankle" department.
Forma ATV1's are a good compromise, and I haven't noticed any difference between the suede & black Gar's...

:)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 17, 2013, 08:43:46 pm
Lekker when you try and try... and then it goes PING ! Was practicing dynamic balancing. Could just not stop, hold it, blip forward, stop hold it, etc. Kept on loosing balance, so tried a few things

First got my body lower with more of a crouch over the bars(I'm rather tall) Next, we learn on our DS bikes to look up ahead where we going. I was doing that. Like I said, on the trials bike the target is here in front of you, so I changed my focus and there you go.

Nice and relaxed stop-goes accross the lawn, holding it for a few seconds everytime and zig-zagging the handle bars as I move along.

Very chuffed. Also inbetween got some nice controlled front wheel lifts over the tree roots.  :thumleft:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: White Rhino on July 18, 2013, 05:07:12 am
Lekker when you try and try... and then it goes PING ! Was practicing dynamic balancing. Could just not stop, hold it, blip forward, stop hold it, etc. Kept on loosing balance, so tried a few things

First got my body lower with more of a crouch over the bars(I'm rather tall) Next, we learn on our DS bikes to look up ahead where we going. I was doing that. Like I said, on the trials bike the target is here in front of you, so I changed my focus and there you go.

Nice and relaxed stop-goes accross the lawn, holding it for a few seconds everytime and zig-zagging the handle bars as I move along.

Very chuffed. Also inbetween got some nice controlled front wheel lifts over the tree roots.  :thumleft:


Thats TITS - Time in the Saddle :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on July 18, 2013, 07:59:52 am
Lekkkooorrrrrr Jup :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Nou vir daai fotos en videos  :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wihan on July 18, 2013, 08:08:54 am
.....I see nothing....
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 19, 2013, 01:06:59 pm
OK, here goes, just to show what a bit of practice can do  :eek7: Just kidding, previous owner playing with my bike.  :biggrin: Love the pic.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wihan on July 19, 2013, 02:57:24 pm
Jup

My gat jeuk, hy moet gekrap word....ek spring heeltyd tussen werk en Gumtree (search: trials bikes).Enigste probleem is dat hier niemand in die area is wat trials ry nie, die leer-kurwe gaan stadig wees. :-\

Ons soek nou n paar fodies met jou onder die bike....en lags aan...en vooroor....sodat ons n paar tips kan vat. :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on July 19, 2013, 03:22:39 pm
... die leer-kurwe gaan stadig wees. :-\

Blykbaar is hierdie 'n goeie begin..

https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/u39-5kwyKQE

Krap NOU jou gat!

Bestel hier:

http://www.gondolafilms.com/shop/article_0005/Learning-Trial-(World-delivery).html?sessid=KOuH2LAAgSQ4M80CYAAtBd1M88Uec8hH1HHTeivW4Y1vrIDBgPD80sDjQLsIUBSm&shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3D0005%26 (http://www.gondolafilms.com/shop/article_0005/Learning-Trial-(World-delivery).html?sessid=KOuH2LAAgSQ4M80CYAAtBd1M88Uec8hH1HHTeivW4Y1vrIDBgPD80sDjQLsIUBSm&shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3D0005%26)

3 ure se les, R 260.00
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 19, 2013, 04:02:16 pm
Ja-nee  :eek7: Ons het nog 'n entjie om te gaan  :imaposer: Ek is maar net so 50 agter daai klein laaitie. Tyd is aan my kant  :biggrin:

Jup

My gat jeuk, hy moet gekrap word....ek spring heeltyd tussen werk en Gumtree (search: trials bikes).Enigste probleem is dat hier niemand in die area is wat trials ry nie, die leer-kurwe gaan stadig wees. :-\

Ons soek nou n paar fodies met jou onder die bike....en lags aan...en vooroor....sodat ons n paar tips kan vat. :deal:

Daar was nou die dag, wat lyk na mooi bike, in die for sales.

Waar bly jy ?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 20, 2013, 06:05:49 pm
Eish ! Its frustrating not to have foties to show you. Today I practiced stop and roll backs. Balance is getting better and what a lekker feeling. Also, accidently, while practicing front wheel lifts(getting brave) did a few nice wheelies, where I could almost feel the balance point.

One and a half hour practice and I'm quite moer toe.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on July 20, 2013, 06:32:04 pm
The trials bike community is really small and friendly.
Register on http://www.capetrials.co.za/ (http://www.capetrials.co.za/)
and ask for riders in your area.
They all know of bikes for sale and you should be able to pick up a reasonable bike.
I bought a Beta Rev3 for R 15 000.
Needed a bit of work, but they are so basic that not much can go wrong.
I was then offered a Gasgas 280 pro as well.
Decided to try it as well.
I am now trying to decide between the two.
The trials bikes are actually the cheapest bikes you can get and the most fun.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: cheesy on July 21, 2013, 09:24:51 pm
Trials riding is possibly one of the best sports ever, teaches you balance, body English, patience, improves foul vocabulary no end, watch your fitness level improve dramatically while having fun.  I had a Bultaco Sherpa 350 back in the early 70's, loads of torque. We also used our bikes for oval track racing. Oh yes, the satisfaction one gets by conquering an obstacle that has been bothering you for some time. I loved the Widow makers with a 2,0 foot lip at the top.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wihan on July 22, 2013, 09:00:09 am
Ja-nee  :eek7: Ons het nog 'n entjie om te gaan  :imaposer: Ek is maar net so 50 agter daai klein laaitie. Tyd is aan my kant  :biggrin:

Jup

My gat jeuk, hy moet gekrap word....ek spring heeltyd tussen werk en Gumtree (search: trials bikes).Enigste probleem is dat hier niemand in die area is wat trials ry nie, die leer-kurwe gaan stadig wees. :-\

Ons soek nou n paar fodies met jou onder die bike....en lags aan...en vooroor....sodat ons n paar tips kan vat. :deal:

Jup

Ek is in George (Tuin-roete) ,mooi tessen als en niks.....ek weet van een ou in Knysna wat trials ry, het al geskimp om saam te gaan,maar die ouens hou maar by hulself.

Her Dave se raad gevolg en die DVD solank bestel, gaan nou begin uitkyk vir n fiets......
Daar was nou die dag, wat lyk na mooi bike, in die for sales.

Waar bly jy ?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wihan on July 22, 2013, 09:01:05 am
... die leer-kurwe gaan stadig wees. :-\

Blykbaar is hierdie 'n goeie begin..

https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/u39-5kwyKQE

Krap NOU jou gat!

Bestel hier:

http://www.gondolafilms.com/shop/article_0005/Learning-Trial-(World-delivery).html?sessid=KOuH2LAAgSQ4M80CYAAtBd1M88Uec8hH1HHTeivW4Y1vrIDBgPD80sDjQLsIUBSm&shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3D0005%26 (http://www.gondolafilms.com/shop/article_0005/Learning-Trial-(World-delivery).html?sessid=KOuH2LAAgSQ4M80CYAAtBd1M88Uec8hH1HHTeivW4Y1vrIDBgPD80sDjQLsIUBSm&shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3D0005%26)

3 ure se les, R 260.00

het begin krap.....
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 22, 2013, 09:06:03 am
Wihan, ek is in PE.

Jy sou sien, ek het ook begin soek hier om R16k. Die ouens wat weet hier in PE, en daar is 'n paar, sÍ toe moenie, tensy jy die bike en sy geskiedenis ken, kan jy moeilikheid koop. Jy gaan meer tyd in jou garage spandeer as in die bos.

My geluk met tweedehands koop is maar sleg, toe gaan ek maar vir 'n later model, maar was gelukkig om hom vir baie goeie prys te kry.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on July 22, 2013, 10:24:25 am
Wihan, ek is in PE.

Jy sou sien, ek het ook begin soek hier om R16k. Die ouens wat weet hier in PE, en daar is 'n paar, sÍ toe moenie, tensy jy die bike en sy geskiedenis ken, kan jy moeilikheid koop. Jy gaan meer tyd in jou garage spandeer as in die bos.

My geluk met tweedehands koop is maar sleg, toe gaan ek maar vir 'n later model, maar was gelukkig om hom vir baie goeie prys te kry.



I disagree with this to a certain extent.
A LOT of guys buy trials bikes and then don't ride them.
They stand around in the shed and then are eventually sold.
Standing unused isn't good for a bike, but it's fixable.
Also, the really good guys upgrade every few years so there are actually quite a few bikes on the market.
They sell their bikes to the lower ranks so unless you ask around you won't know about these bikes.
I got a '02 Beta Rev3 that hadn't been used for years for R 13 000.
Had a whole lot of issues (brakes,carb,exhaust,wheel bearings) but after spending R 3000 it's in good reliable riding condition.
Speak to Mike in Knysna.
082 8 zero zero 2 zero five zero
he has a friend Rydall who knows of a bike sitting in a shed waiting for you!
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 22, 2013, 10:33:46 am
Wihan, ek is in PE.

Jy sou sien, ek het ook begin soek hier om R16k. Die ouens wat weet hier in PE, en daar is 'n paar, sÍ toe moenie, tensy jy die bike en sy geskiedenis ken, kan jy moeilikheid koop. Jy gaan meer tyd in jou garage spandeer as in die bos.

My geluk met tweedehands koop is maar sleg, toe gaan ek maar vir 'n later model, maar was gelukkig om hom vir baie goeie prys te kry.



I disagree with this to a certain extent.
A LOT of guys buy trials bikes and then don't ride them.
They stand around in the shed and then are eventually sold.
Standing unused isn't good for a bike, but it's fixable.
Also, the really good guys upgrade every few years so there are actually quite a few bikes on the market.
They sell their bikes to the lower ranks so unless you ask around you won't know about these bikes.
I got a '02 Beta Rev3 that hadn't been used for years for R 13 000.
Had a whole lot of issues (brakes,carb,exhaust,wheel bearings) but after spending R 3000 it's in good reliable riding condition.
Speak to Mike in Knysna.
082 8 zero zero 2 zero five zero
he has a friend Rydall who knows of a bike sitting in a shed waiting for you!


I agree with you, that's why I said... unless you know the bikes history.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Scalpel on July 22, 2013, 11:13:23 am
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Redbarn just pst Irene golf course.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wihan on July 22, 2013, 05:30:19 pm
Been looking at all the different brands....there seems to be two different types of bike: Pro and Racing. Are they for different disciplines and what is the difference between the bikes? ???

None of the 2nd hand bikes advertised specify which type........what do you look for in a bike, and how do you know what you get.....?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 22, 2013, 05:34:37 pm
Geen idee nie. Ek was gesÍ myne is 'n goeie bike, koop hom. Wat my op die stadium betref het hy twee wiele en 'n enjin. Wat ek wel weet is dat die ouens wat hom voor my gehad het, senior kompetiesie gery het en goed gedoen het.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 28, 2013, 06:20:54 pm
Sorry still no pics, but thought I'd share. Had my first real trial ride yesterday. Played around in the river valley close to my house. One particular spot has some nice windy climbs up die kloof face. Just outside my comfort zone, but it went very well. Good spot where you can progress in steps.

This was the kicker. On the way to the riding spot there was this one rocky section with a steep, smooth drop about 10m long. I was dubious, I can paddle down, but how do I get back up. No worries, says my instructor, he'll ride it back up. Good then.

Whole afternoon I had that rock face in my head, I can do it , just focus. With the afternoon practice done my confidence was high. We returned and got to the rock face. Masehare, it looked daunting. Focus, gooi 1000 yard stare and go. Warra lekka feeling. Just one touch and I was at the top. Baby steps  :thumleft:

I'll take  a pic when I get my camera back.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 30, 2013, 01:33:33 pm
I met a guy at a braai who has a Gas Gas 250 that has been standing for at least 4 years.  After I expressed interest he's willing to give it away because it quite buggered.

He says it has the following issues:

1) Plastics are cracked and buggered
2) Fork seals are blown
3) Gear selector fork inside the engine broke and was repaired by welding (no issues  since)
4) Its been standing for 4 years so tyres/chain/oil etc will need replacing and he's not sure if it will start (probably not), but it did run.
5) Fork clamp is cracked at one point but he says its been like that for years without any issues.

I'm very very interested but need some info:

1) Where do I get spares?
2) Who is the Gas Gas agent?

I'm thinking that this could suite me down to ground because I just want something to learn on, something cheap but still capable that I wont worry about if it gets hammered.  Once I know what I'm doing I can decide whether I need to buy something more bling.

Any comments/advice appreciated.

I'll probably go look at it tonight.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on July 30, 2013, 01:40:12 pm
I met a guy at a braai who has a Gas Gas 250 that has been standing for at least 4 years.  After I expressed interest he's willing to give it away because it quite buggered.

He says it has the following issues:

1) Plastics are cracked and buggered
2) Fork seals are blown
3) Gear selector fork inside the engine broke and was repaired by welding (no issues  since)
4) Its been standing for 4 years so tyres/chain/oil etc will need replacing and he's not sure if it will start (probably not), but it did run.
5) Fork clamp is cracked at one point but he says its been like that for years without any issues.

I'm very very interested but need some info:

1) Where do I get spares?
2) Who is the Gas Gas agent?

http://www.rockgarden.co.za/

I'm thinking that this could suite me down to ground because I just want something to learn on, something cheap but still capable that I wont worry about if it gets hammered.  Once I know what I'm doing I can decide whether I need to buy something more bling.

Any comments/advice appreciated.

I'll probably go look at it tonight.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 30, 2013, 02:36:08 pm
Thanks  :thumleft:

They don't seem to answer their phone  >:(

But I'll keep trying.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Dwerg on July 30, 2013, 02:42:55 pm
Thanks  :thumleft:

They don't seem to answer their phone  >:(

But I'll keep trying.

http://gasgas.co.za/dealers.html (http://gasgas.co.za/dealers.html)

WOA are also agents  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 31, 2013, 07:34:35 am
Thanks  :thumleft:

They don't seem to answer their phone  >:(

But I'll keep trying.

http://gasgas.co.za/dealers.html (http://gasgas.co.za/dealers.html)

WOA are also agents  :thumleft:


Thanks.

I went and had a look at the bike. 

I'm afraid it was a bit TOO buggered, it would need a complete rebuild of virtually everything, frame, motor, shocks, brakes, clutch - not worth it unfortunately.

Pity I got quite excited.  So still looking....
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on July 31, 2013, 07:48:53 am
Pity I got quite excited.  So still looking....

If he wants/must to get rid of it...I won't mind a project bike  (just saying  ;) )
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 31, 2013, 08:55:52 am
Pity I got quite excited.  So still looking....

If he wants/must to get rid of it...I won't mind a project bike  (just saying  ;) )

He's based in Edenvale.  If you want I can PM you his details?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on July 31, 2013, 01:06:52 pm
Alan, I at first considered the "inexpensive" route... cheapy, tinker a lot and ride. After speaking to a few experienced trials riders I decided on a decent ( bit pricey) bike that for now I can just enjoy and ride, because that's what you want to do. Be in the bush and not your workshop.

Sadly, to do that, I had to sell my one daughters unused bike, but I'm having fun all the time and she's happy for me  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on July 31, 2013, 01:23:28 pm
Alan, I at first considered the "inexpensive" route... cheapy, tinker a lot and ride. After speaking to a few experienced trials riders I decided on a decent ( bit pricey) bike that for now I can just enjoy and ride, because that's what you want to do. Be in the bush and not your workshop.

Sadly, to do that, I had to sell my one daughters unused bike, but I'm having fun all the time and she's happy for me  :thumleft:

Ja - I dont really have the time.  Arent riding enough as it is. 

So will keep looking for a bargain that actually runs and wont need a few months worth of work.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 01, 2013, 09:27:55 am
Got my boots yesterday. Nou gaan ons gooi. Very nice and comfortable. Novagar black polished. Think I'll also use them for normal riding.

And yes I know... foties  ???
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Rough Rider on August 01, 2013, 09:36:46 am
Sorry still no pics, but thought I'd share. Had my first real trial ride yesterday. Played around in the river valley close to my house. One particular spot has some nice windy climbs up die kloof face. Just outside my comfort zone, but it went very well. Good spot where you can progress in steps.

This was the kicker. On the way to the riding spot there was this one rocky section with a steep, smooth drop about 10m long. I was dubious, I can paddle down, but how do I get back up. No worries, says my instructor, he'll ride it back up. Good then.

Whole afternoon I had that rock face in my head, I can do it , just focus. With the afternoon practice done my confidence was high. We returned and got to the rock face. Masehare, it looked daunting. Focus, gooi 1000 yard stare and go. Warra lekka feeling. Just one touch and I was at the top. Baby steps  :thumleft:

I'll take  a pic when I get my camera back.

Next time try on the XT that thing can climb amazing things  :pot:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 03:29:49 pm
This is so lekker to see! I love trials bikes, only thing is that they are very, very one-dimensional. But if you have the right terrain and maybe a riding partner, they can be huge fun.
Very difficult to ride really well though. In one competition I was called "ole paddlefeet" by an elderly gent spectating. :eek7: :o
I use to ride with Duncan Barson, and have heard lots of Tony Or[r]ey? , top rider.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 03, 2013, 02:07:58 am
Here is some inspiration for you Jups! I turned off the sound.  ::)

http://youtu.be/Cl8Wgo1-Ngk (http://youtu.be/Cl8Wgo1-Ngk)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: White Rhino on August 03, 2013, 06:58:32 am
Man oh man, that's done it for me .... I'm taking up fishing :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 03, 2013, 07:21:02 am
Seen that video before (and many others  :imaposer: ) Its awesome to watch these guys ride. Thanks for putting it up.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on August 05, 2013, 07:45:16 am
Bliksem daai ou ken sy storie :o
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 23, 2013, 02:17:16 pm
Ok I am in.... Been reading the treads now just need to get the A into G and do it.

Going to have a look at a bike tomorrow at Graham Harris's place.
It's a 2004 Beta rev 3 270 - any comments on it as beginners bike welcome.

Jup.... what boots did you get in the end? or did I miss that somewhere.
How much did they set you back?

Besides the bike, boots,helmet and a sense of humor is there anything else I will be needing?

Thanks

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 23, 2013, 08:37:15 pm
Hey Wookie, I've been off the radar a while and have not played for two weeks. Looking forward to tomorrow afternoon.

I got Novagar boots, the polished leather one, because they did not have the soft suade type in stock. Think it was R2 500.00 incl courier. I have an openface helmet, but will want to get a proper trials one. Then gloves and knee guards. The latter very important. Hydration pack ! If like me you go play in the bush away from your car.

About the bike I can't help you much. Still too novice myself. I knew where my bike came from and was told to buy it, its the right one.

Enjoy, I'm loving it and can already feel the difference slow riding and balancing my commuter bike in traffic.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on August 24, 2013, 12:23:38 pm
Graham Harris will sort you out with no issues - best dealer ever.
He imports the novogar boots, get some.
Helmets WOA used to have cheapies, otherwise get from Graham

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 24, 2013, 04:17:57 pm
Grim , Jupiter.... thanks for the info.

Met with Graham today to have a look at the bike.... what a pleasure to deal with the man and 100% passionate about what he does.  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

I know something like squat about trials bikes so Grahams honesty was impressive as he took me through all the bits and pieces that were not 100% on the bike. Most of these he is in process of sorting out and should have them done sometime next week. This will leave only cosmetic stuff like decals, otherwise the bike looks like it has seen very little abuse.

So the bike has my name on it and sale is subject to final inspection when he is done (his rule not mine  :3some:)
He has also sorted me out with Novogar boots and I opted for the Airoh helmet.


Roll on next weekend.... ;D
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 24, 2013, 05:13:12 pm
Graham Harris will sort you out with no issues - best dealer ever.
He imports the novogar boots, get some.
Helmets WOA used to have cheapies, otherwise get from Graham


Now I recognise the name. No worries Wooki, you're sorted then  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 25, 2013, 09:11:09 pm
Some pics from my ride with sons at Olifants today

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 25, 2013, 09:15:58 pm
And riding the logs

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 25, 2013, 09:29:02 pm
Two more

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 07:08:34 am
Sithe....  where about in Oliphants is this?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Footpeg se PA on August 26, 2013, 08:10:14 am
Hey Jup, jy raak nou lekker rof. Onthou ons ou mense se bene groei nie so maklik aan nie :deal: :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 26, 2013, 08:38:42 am
Sithe....  where about in Oliphants is this?

Hi Wookie

We are there on Saturdays and Sundays

GPS: 25 55 52.10″ S 28 14 02.18″ E


Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on August 26, 2013, 08:42:45 am
Hey Wookie... when you getting your baby?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 08:50:14 am
Thanks Sithe... once I have the bike I will make a plan to join in the fun out there.

Mal.... Hopefully Friday / Saturday. Graham is still sorting out a few things he was not happy with.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 26, 2013, 09:30:05 am
Nice one Sithe. Next Saturday I must definitely get some pics. We have a great natural play area. Yesetrday I made it up a 30m steep hill climb... OK almost, but we had great fun.  :biggrin:

I'm still, mostly, only working on balance and controlled frontwheel lift, and its coming on nicely. Stopping and rolling the bike backwards as well.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 09:47:51 am
I take it that it is easier to practice balance to do it dynamically with the engine running... as in stop, balance move slowly forward if you lose balance... repeat?

I live in a complex where this might be an issue. Are there any balance exercises that I can do with the engine off?

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on August 26, 2013, 09:49:29 am
I take it that it is easier to practice balance to do it dynamically with the engine running... as in stop, balance move slowly forward if you lose balance... repeat?

I live in a complex where this might be an issue. Are there any balance exercises that I can do with the engine off?



According the the LaRiche brothers, you watch TV at night balancing...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 09:56:32 am
Now there is the problem..... I don't own a TV. Can I read a book instead?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on August 26, 2013, 09:56:39 am

I live in a complex where this might be an issue. Are there any balance exercises that I can do with the engine off?


You can actually practice it on your mountainbike, not sure about with the engine of, you need slight forward movement to offset your braking, and to get going again.

From my experience, you start with coming to a stop, and rolling forward when you start toppeling over.
As your skill level increase, you will stop for longer, and roll forward less an less till eventually you can stand still.

It is a different action from standing still, getting your feet on your pegs, and putting them out when falling over.

I can't do it, but my kid does: He plays PS3 MX Untamed, standing with his knees on an exercise ball. His balance is amazing.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 10:00:50 am
Thanks Beserker.... never thought of using a mountain bike to practice.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 26, 2013, 10:25:47 am
I spend a few minutes every evening in my garage doing static balancing. Lock the steering, hold front break, get on the pegs and balance. In the beginning you get nowhere, but persevere. Change left and right.

Its all about teaching the right muscles, which you've never had to use before, to do the job. It becomes programmed. After a month or so I can manage about 5 seconds.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 10:50:20 am
Think I am going to be in that boat too..... :imaposer:

That's my plan as well, to do a little each evening and build it up slowly.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 26, 2013, 10:55:47 am
Think I am going to be in that boat too..... :imaposer:

That's my plan as well, to do a little each evening and build it up slowly.

Just persevere. After two weeks I was prepared to give up and just ride around. Could not get and hold both feet on the pegs. Now I can ride, stop hard, roll the bike backwards a little, stop and go forward again.

On a Saturday afternoon I spend about half an hour of the hour's playtime doing balance practice. The rest is front wheel lift and some obstacles.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 26, 2013, 11:11:21 am
luckily patience is on of my strong points...... Not  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


Was at Full-throttle to get some knee guards and found  a Ryan young DVD for advanced trials skills.
Thought it would be something I could use in future so bought it.

Damn that boy can ride. He has a novice DVD as well... any idea where I can get one locally?

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 26, 2013, 08:49:19 pm
Jupiter ..  how big is the trials scene there .. do they have observed competitions ?

Wookie .. here is a trick you can try to help with stationary balancing with the engine off :

deflate your tyres completely .. as your balance improves start to inflate the tryes .. go to 0.1 bar then practice there for a while .. later go to 0.2 bars .. carry on like that until you get to 0.5 bar front and back

don't ride the bike like that .. just practice your balancing like that .. for riding they recommend 0.4 to 0.5 bars
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 26, 2013, 09:09:40 pm
It comes and goes. At the moment its dead and just a few of us playing over wekends.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 27, 2013, 07:02:02 am
Jupiter ..  how big is the trials scene there .. do they have observed competitions ?

Wookie .. here is a trick you can try to help with stationary balancing with the engine off :

deflate your tyres completely .. as your balance improves start to inflate the tryes .. go to 0.1 bar then practice there for a while .. later go to 0.2 bars .. carry on like that until you get to 0.5 bar front and back

don't ride the bike like that .. just practice your balancing like that .. for riding they recommend 0.4 to 0.5 bars

Thanks Sithe.... will give that a go.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Welsh on August 27, 2013, 07:31:25 am
911 on

Not the place I know but an "entry level" Gas Gas will be in the for sale section shortly.

911 off

 8)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on August 27, 2013, 08:33:23 am
Sithe, how long have you been riding trials bike ?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on August 30, 2013, 10:47:37 pm
Been riding about 3 years now ... I don't get to ride often maybe 3 times a month if that

Grim got me into it ... Great fun
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 07:41:57 am
Ok some pics.... only two for now.

Got the bike on Friday but only managed to get a ride in on Sunday.
Figured out a few things after a few hours on the bike:

1: Damn these bikes are light and stand up for no reason if you gas it a bit hard. >:D
2: Completely different riding style
3: Stationary balancing of the bike is not in the feet but in the arms
4: Balancing is not as difficult as I thought it would be.... managed 10sec after a few hours practice  :biggrin:
5: Man Oh Man this is fun..... :thumleft:
6: This is Pilates on wheels.... awesome core muscle work out while having a blast  :ricky:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 02, 2013, 07:46:29 am
Too lekker W... You look like you are going to take to this with gusto... :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 08:06:08 am
Me take on something with gusto..... never  ;D

You and Mark definitely need one of these for the farm  :3some:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 02, 2013, 08:13:47 am
Me take on something with gusto..... never  ;D

You and Mark definitely need one of these for the farm  :3some:

Actually, that makes a lotta sense... :)  maybe not just the farm...

Problem with us is that we need 2 of everything... ::)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 08:22:14 am

Problem with us is that we need 2 of everything... ::)

And the problem is?   :pot:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 02, 2013, 08:23:07 am

Problem with us is that we need 2 of everything... ::)

And the problem is?   :pot:

Only got a double garage... ::)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on September 02, 2013, 08:28:36 am
no Judes ... we can share. PLEASE  >:D trials bike or a new omga 690.  :biggrin:

Congrats Warren...I know you are going to have huge fun with that machine.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 08:37:22 am
Thanks guys.... will make a plan to catch up with you so you can have a ride.  :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on September 02, 2013, 08:40:07 am
Thanks guys.... will make a plan to catch up with you so you can have a ride.  :ricky:

are we still on to go watch the riding Sunday...maybe see Sithe doing his magic.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 08:42:11 am
Yep, I am there but will be taking the green monster for a run  >:D
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 02, 2013, 09:02:59 am
Nice one Wookie. I still have not managed to take pics. Very difficult when you're in the hills and riding to stop for foto shoots. Need to organise a cameraman.

And... had my first serious off  :eek7: Lost my balance on a piece of rock I've done many times, put the bike down, and then went tumbling down a 3m rocky embankment. Fell myself just short of needing a gynaecologist  :imaposer:

Very much chaffed, bruised and sore. You can fall your moer off on these bikes.  :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 09:15:53 am
Hey Jup.... Glad you still in one piece.
These bikes look all innocent and putter around..... but given half a chance they are quite happy to bite you.

I had a few vertical moments while getting used to how sensitive the throttle is.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 02, 2013, 09:22:19 am
Another thing... wear your ATGATT ! I had my knee protectors on. If not, my right kneecap would have been a gonner. As it is, it is just badly bruised and very stiff on the side with some ugly scratches.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 10:02:47 am
+1 on that....

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on September 02, 2013, 11:34:49 am
Another thing... wear your ATGATT ! I had my knee protectors on. If not, my right kneecap would have been a gonner. As it is, it is just badly bruised and very stiff on the side with some ugly scratches.


It just amazes me how little ATGATT the trials riders wear!
I can't bring myself to ride with the open face helmets the guys use.
I ride with knee pads, a pressure suit, full face helmet and my Sidi Crossfire boots.
My only concession is no neck brace and I wear thin gloves.
So far, have only had some small offs, but when I see what the pros do  -  WOW!
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 02, 2013, 12:07:24 pm
Luckily I got no upperbody punctures, eccept for sprained muscles, but have been considering wearing my balistic jacket. Also got some nasty grazes on my hips(boude) so defnitely looking at a pants with protection.

Its amazing how much happens in so few short seconds when you take a tumble.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 03:26:30 pm
Question for Grim....

If I remember correctly you said you had a REV 3.
The rear mounting screws for the rear fender , are they screwed directly into the airbox or are they tapped into the subframe / airbox mounting frame?

The ones on my bike just turn but do not come loose. Feels like it has a nut on the back which is turning.

Thanks
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on September 02, 2013, 03:50:14 pm
Hmmm, into the airbox as far as I can remember, I think there are some brass nuts embedded in the plastic.
Will check tonight & let you know...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 03:53:30 pm
Thanks Grim.  :thumleft:

That is what it feels like. Might have to grind the screws off and see if I can glue the brass nuts back in.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on September 02, 2013, 03:57:56 pm
Thanks Grim.  :thumleft:

That is what it feels like. Might have to grind the screws off and see if I can glue the brass nuts back in.


All the Beta plastics are poly propylene (PP) and easily weldable - if that is the issue I would just add some filler & re melt them in.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 04:01:17 pm
Mmmm good idea...  hadn't thought of that.

Thanks
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on September 02, 2013, 04:21:12 pm
Question for Grim....

If I remember correctly you said you had a REV 3.
The rear mounting screws for the rear fender , are they screwed directly into the airbox or are they tapped into the subframe / airbox mounting frame?

The ones on my bike just turn but do not come loose. Feels like it has a nut on the back which is turning.

Thanks

The Rev3 has brass inserts that are supposed to be embedded into the plastic airbox.
They have probably come loose from someone over tightening.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2013, 04:26:36 pm
Thanks Espresso..... so time to break out the dremel tool then  >:D
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on September 03, 2013, 07:55:14 am
Ok some pics.... only two for now.

Got the bike on Friday but only managed to get a ride in on Sunday.
Figured out a few things after a few hours on the bike:

1: Damn these bikes are light and stand up for no reason if you gas it a bit hard. >:D
2: Completely different riding style
3: Stationary balancing of the bike is not in the feet but in the arms
4: Balancing is not as difficult as I thought it would be.... managed 10sec after a few hours practice  :biggrin:
5: Man Oh Man this is fun..... :thumleft:
6: This is Pilates on wheels.... awesome core muscle work out while having a blast  :ricky:



Very very jealous!

Enjoy  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 03, 2013, 08:02:51 am
Thanks AlanB.....

Have you not managed to find a bike yet?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on September 03, 2013, 03:45:18 pm
Thanks AlanB.....

Have you not managed to find a bike yet?

No still looking...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 03, 2013, 03:54:11 pm
I see Welsh had Beemer Man's trials bike for sale a few days ago. There were a few interested in the bike but might be worth a followup.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=132672.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=132672.0)

Cheers

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 03, 2013, 06:05:32 pm
I see Welsh had Beemer Man's trials bike for sale a few days ago. There were a few interested in the bike but might be worth a followup.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=132672.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=132672.0)

Cheers

W

I almost bought that bike, but snoozed and Craig zapped it from underneath me.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 03, 2013, 08:01:56 pm
This is how spoilt we are  :biggrin: 1km by road and 500m straight across from where I live. The valley/forest where we play
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 04, 2013, 07:08:34 am
That looks stunning..... :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on September 04, 2013, 07:14:41 am
Very nice :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 04, 2013, 03:23:42 pm
Bottom of the pic, where I live. Top of the pic, where we play. About 7km of valley and kloof  :biggrin:

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2373/uher.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/uher.png/)

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 04, 2013, 09:27:50 pm
having more fun with Google Earth  :biggrin: The spot with the rocks where I fell my 'kas' off on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on September 05, 2013, 07:16:09 am
Jup vertel ons bietjie of jy al reg kom en wat jy al onder beheur het. Paar foto's in aksie :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 05, 2013, 08:48:40 am
Jup vertel ons bietjie of jy al reg kom en wat jy al onder beheur het. Paar foto's in aksie :deal:

Stadig ry, stop, bietjie balanseer, die bike entjie terugrol ens. Sukkel maar nog met staties balanseer, maar dit kom aan. Obstacles kan ek al so 1 na 2 voet rotsklim aanpak, maar net een hop op 'n slag. Dan ry ons heelwat steil klimme,steil afdraende en dan het ek ook al so 3 voet drop-off afgery. O ja, ek kan val ook  :imaposer:

So op die stadium kan ek matige obstacles aanpak, soms onelegant, maar so dat dit vloei en ek dit kan geniet. Ek is net moer onfiks en moet maar baie rus. het ook nodig om oefening te doen vir my hande, nek, gewrigte en knieŽ.

Ek het gereŽl vir 'n fotograaf vir Saterdag, so dan sal ek die pics gooi. Dis moeilik om kiekies te neem as jy en die ander ouens ry en speel.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: goingnowherequickly on September 05, 2013, 11:19:50 pm
Anyone know where i can spectate trials events in kzn...
An events calender perhaps? would love to try this, looks great fun..  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 06, 2013, 07:06:04 am
Unfortunately there does not appear to be a contact for a trials club down in KZN.
 >:(

http://www.trials.co.za/trialsclubs.php (http://www.trials.co.za/trialsclubs.php)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: J-dog on September 06, 2013, 07:45:14 am
where do you stay gerard?

are the trials bikes noisy, and does it disturb the neighbors, or do you head away from them down the valley?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 06, 2013, 07:59:25 am
Look at reply # 130. Its the start of the guinea fowl trail at the bottom of Hawthorne. Bikes are very quiet. We practice and warm-up at the parking area by the pump station and those people in the houses accross the river don't hear us. I stay just accross  Circular drive in the pic.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 06, 2013, 08:01:28 am
Who's all going through to watch the Trails this Sunday in Gauteng?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 06, 2013, 08:04:22 am
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 06, 2013, 08:06:30 am
:thumleft:

Gaan jy deelneem ? Onthou die foto's  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Dwerg on September 06, 2013, 08:15:05 am
Who's all going through to watch the Trails this Sunday in Gauteng?

Where is that happening?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 06, 2013, 08:17:30 am
:thumleft:

Gaan jy deelneem ? Onthou die foto's  :thumleft:

Unfortunately not.... these are nationals and I don't have a race number and license yet.
Been advised to take part in some club events first before trying nationals  ;D

Just going to watch and take notes  8)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: J-dog on September 06, 2013, 08:17:55 am
Look at reply # 130. Its the start of the guinea fowl trail at the bottom of Hawthorne. Bikes are very quiet. We practice and warm-up at the parking area by the pump station and those people in the houses accross the river don't hear us. I stay just accross  Circular drive in the pic.

ah ok saw the pic, but couldn't work out the suburb  :thumleft:

P.S. With that info I was just able to peer over your neighbours face brick wall onto his pool from my computer  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 06, 2013, 08:19:00 am
Who's all going through to watch the Trails this Sunday in Gauteng?

Where is that happening?

Out near magalies... see PDF map attached
The co-ords are for the turn off onto the farm. From there follow the jeep track until you find the cars.

From the trials web page   http://nrtc.trials.co.za/uploads/events/maps/1332853888_magaliesburg.png (http://nrtc.trials.co.za/uploads/events/maps/1332853888_magaliesburg.png)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on September 06, 2013, 08:26:09 am
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 06, 2013, 09:26:48 am
Look at reply # 130. Its the start of the guinea fowl trail at the bottom of Hawthorne. Bikes are very quiet. We practice and warm-up at the parking area by the pump station and those people in the houses accross the river don't hear us. I stay just accross  Circular drive in the pic.

ah ok saw the pic, but couldn't work out the suburb  :thumleft:

P.S. With that info I was just able to peer over your neighbours face brick wall onto his pool from my computer  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

been playing around on Google Earth a bit and its scary how up-close and personal you can get.B
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 06, 2013, 01:10:12 pm
Who's looking for a trials bike http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133519.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133519.0)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 07, 2013, 05:34:48 pm
 :eek7:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 07, 2013, 05:38:52 pm
And now.... why the face?  Is this good or bad?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 07, 2013, 06:06:51 pm
And now.... why the face?  Is this good or bad?

I did not show you the next pic in the sequence... yet.  :imaposer: At least today I did not bleed  :biggrin: Have a 100 plus pics to edit, with some video, and then I'll post an RR  :thumleft:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 07, 2013, 09:14:58 pm
photo's  http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133593.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133593.0)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 07, 2013, 09:36:41 pm
:lol8: Ok, gonna go look...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 08, 2013, 06:44:29 pm
Added some more pics of today's play to the RR
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 09, 2013, 01:46:43 pm
Can't remember what I've posted on the RR, so lets liven up this thread a bit

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 09, 2013, 08:58:45 pm
Lekker, I will add your RR to the Racing index :thumleft:

EDIT: Cant seem to find it... :scratch: have you got a link to the RR please, or is it in your monster RR thread?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 09, 2013, 10:19:03 pm
Lekker, I will add your RR to the Racing index :thumleft:

EDIT: Cant seem to find it... :scratch: have you got a link to the RR please, or is it in your monster RR thread?

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133593.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=133593.0)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 10, 2013, 02:43:35 am
Thanks, and updated. Please keep it coming

I'm looking forward to a few more slight smiles. :thumright:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on September 10, 2013, 07:25:03 am
Leka Jup :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 13, 2013, 12:10:19 pm
What happened ? Some of the posts disappeared  :patch:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 13, 2013, 12:19:15 pm
What happened ? Some of the posts disappeared   :patch:

Wrong thread, found it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 13, 2013, 02:08:41 pm
From Malibu's post on another thread. We don't have trials compititions down South, so any of you guys go to compititions, post some piccies.

Malibu, I see that trials bikes are long overdue. Mark's been hinting since 2007 on a RR thread of Grim.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 13, 2013, 02:28:15 pm
"Malibu, I see that trials bikes are long overdue. Mark's been hinting since 2007 on a RR thread of Grim."

Oh Crap..... Jup now you stirring the pot   :pot:

I was already in trouble this morning with Malibu about this  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 13, 2013, 02:28:53 pm
From Malibu's post on another thread. We don't have trials compititions down South, so any of you guys go to compititions, post some piccies.

Malibu, I see that trials bikes are long overdue. Mark's been hinting since 2007 on a RR thread of Grim.


Then Mark must stop buying farms and stuff.... ::)

Mask took some stunning pics this last weekend, I'll see if he's happy enough with the quality of any to post... will have to be next week, we are off for weekend training soon...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 13, 2013, 02:30:11 pm
It's ok, to make up, Wookie is giving us a spin on his bike...  ;D
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 13, 2013, 02:30:45 pm
It's ok, to make up, Wookie is giving us a spin on his bike...  ;D

For sure.... careful they are addictive!  :3some:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 13, 2013, 02:32:15 pm
It's ok, to make up, Wookie is giving us a spin on his bike...  ;D

For sure.... careful they are addictive!  :3some:

5 second rule  :deal:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 13, 2013, 02:33:26 pm
It's ok, to make up, Wookie is giving us a spin on his bike...  ;D

For sure.... careful they are addictive!  :3some:

5 second rule  :deal:

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
yep thats about how long it will take to get them hooked
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 13, 2013, 02:34:20 pm
Hey, go away you two....

FFS... ::)

How many bikes are enough? 

You can NEVER have enough! 
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 13, 2013, 02:36:07 pm
Hey, go away you two....

FFS... ::)

How many bikes are enough?  

You can NEVER have enough!  

Well said   :thumleft:
Mal you know there is a national trials event in Barberton the weekend you are at the farm
http://www.barbertontrials.co.za/ (http://www.barbertontrials.co.za/)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on September 13, 2013, 02:38:19 pm
Jup, busy trying to organise our life so we can pop in and visit for a bit...  :)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 14, 2013, 09:10:16 pm
Today
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 15, 2013, 05:25:05 pm
You're beginning to look like a pro there. :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 15, 2013, 07:31:18 pm
You're beginning to look like a pro there. :ricky:

 :thumleft: Problem is the little bit of skill I've devoloped is beginning to exceed my level of fitness. Yesterday we played a bit hard and today I paid the price for it.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on September 16, 2013, 08:15:59 am
Looking like a pro :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 16, 2013, 08:52:13 am
Awesome...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on September 16, 2013, 09:04:22 am
Looking like a pro :thumleft: :thumleft:

Just faking it well  :biggrin: Going a bit rough now. Popped the left fork seal yesterday.  :eek7: Luckily I've got the bash intervening this weekend so can have it fixed and serviced... and to give the old bones a bit of a rest.  :imaposer:

Man, I'm hurting in places where there wasn't places before.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on September 16, 2013, 10:22:21 am
Looking like a pro :thumleft: :thumleft:

Just faking it well  :biggrin: Going a bit rough now. Popped the left fork seal yesterday.  :eek7: Luckily I've got the bash intervening this weekend so can have it fixed and serviced... and to give the old bones a bit of a rest.  :imaposer:

Man, I'm hurting in places where there wasn't places before.

Dit is mos al wat saak maak :lol8:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Beserker on September 19, 2013, 01:00:22 pm
I know somewhere on yor thread there was all sorts of starting off questions...

Maybe this will help:

http://capetrials.co.za/content/trials-boots-and-helmet-sale (http://capetrials.co.za/content/trials-boots-and-helmet-sale)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on September 19, 2013, 01:12:30 pm
The big problem facing trials in this country is that youngsters are not getting involved. They are all going mx / enduro / superbikes

It's such a nice sport but pity it gets no exposure on TV to make it appealing to the kids.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on September 19, 2013, 01:27:19 pm
The big problem facing trials in this country is that youngsters are not getting involved. They are all going mx / enduro / superbikes

It's such a nice sport but pity it gets no exposure on TV to make it appealing to the kids.


maybe if Trials SA starts holding indoor events or events in public places where it can be seen and watched, then more youngsters and people might get involved. At the moment the events are held out in the bush ( which has really lekker riding) but from a spectator point of view...worthless.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on September 19, 2013, 03:21:04 pm

maybe if Trials SA starts holding indoor events or events in public places where it can be seen and watched, then more youngsters and people might get involved. At the moment the events are held out in the bush ( which has really lekker riding) but from a spectator point of view...worthless.

Venues & costs...
To build an indoor arena is going to cost a lot - more than you can recover from the riders entry fees. And the days of crowds flocking to see local motorsports (or any other sporting event for that matter) are long gone, so you won't  recover any money there either.
A lot of the trials venues have sections close to the car park, and have free entry, yet still minimal spectators.  :-\
Even when we held trials in public places and events, there was no more than a passing interest.
Indoor trials is also a different sport to outdoor trials - bigger obstacles, but less technical.And only 1 line. Not many of the current riders would ride in that.

TV coverage would help a lot, but once again that is expensive, and in the years that I organised it for the Nationals, we made a loss every time (you have to pay supersport for providing them with interesting coverage)... and the only sponsorships were from the riders own companies - once again no interest.

Trials (in Gauteng at least) currently provides a good service - affordable, well run competitions for those that are interested.


The big problem facing trials in this country is that youngsters are not getting involved. They are all going mx / enduro / superbikes

It's such a nice sport but pity it gets no exposure on TV to make it appealing to the kids.


The oset class could solve that in a couple of years time...
And all the other facets of motorsport are also complaining about a lack of youngsters...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on October 30, 2013, 11:25:17 am
what to Wookie and his trials bike ... how is the riding going ?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on November 04, 2013, 06:52:12 am
@ Sithe,

Bikes going well and the basic skills are coming on.
I have only managed to get out on it about 6 times so far, mainly at Olifants..... heaps of fun!

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: KiLRoy on November 04, 2013, 07:31:27 am
Ok, i'm biting.

Few questions.....

Which bike for us 'slightly over a 100kgs' okes?

4stroke or 2stroke - pros/cons

Which bike - recommend one plse.  Just for fucking around, no competitions and shit

Then find me one plse
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on November 04, 2013, 10:11:41 am
Ok, i'm biting.

Few questions.....

Which bike for us 'slightly over a 100kgs' okes?

4stroke or 2stroke - pros/cons

Which bike - recommend one plse.  Just for fucking around, no competitions and shit

Then find me one plse

For TRAIL riding as opposed to TRIAL riding a 4 stroke is better than a 2 stroke.
Here you go!
http://trials.co.za/secondhand.php (http://trials.co.za/secondhand.php)
 4 stroke and a seat!

I however don't find a 2 stroke a problem.
I rode to the top of the Matroosberg this weekend on my Gasgas 280 2 stroke this weekend.  
Just stand and GO!

I carried an extra 2 liters of petrol in MSR bottles in my backpack.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: KiLRoy on November 04, 2013, 09:42:09 pm
So, i can get a Montesa cota 315.

Opinions, issues, comments?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Gerrard on November 08, 2013, 01:40:03 pm
My bike is for sale http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=138204.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=138204.0)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on November 08, 2013, 02:36:01 pm
So, i can get a Montesa cota 315.

Opinions, issues, comments?

Good for what you want, dependant on price (& condition...)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on March 19, 2014, 08:20:22 am
Hey guys...

Wookie invited me to come play with him this last Sunday. 
I had ridden his bike before and gone over a telephone pole, this is my second ride and first go at logs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA)

No hysterical laughing, ok, I really had fun! :thumleft:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on March 19, 2014, 09:07:01 am
Hey guys...

Wookie invited me to come play with him this last Sunday. 
I had ridden his bike before and gone over a telephone pole, this is my second ride and first go at logs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA)

No hysterical laughing, ok, I really had fun! :thumleft:



I think you need to rephase that statement..... :imaposer:

 :peepwall:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: TVB on March 19, 2014, 09:26:57 am
Hey guys...

Wookie invited me to come play with him this last Sunday. 
I had ridden his bike before and gone over a telephone pole, this is my second ride and first go at logs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1LMhsbMzIA)

No hysterical laughing, ok, I really had fun! :thumleft:



I think you need to rephase that statement..... :imaposer:

 :peepwall:



 :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on March 19, 2014, 09:52:19 am
Errrrm....  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on March 19, 2014, 10:14:08 am
Errrrm....  :peepwall:

is that you have say ...... hey hey  :biggrin:

Jokes aside, we need to arrange another day out at that place, I see some really interest obstacles to ride on.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on March 19, 2014, 10:22:48 am
Hehehehe..... It must be amnesia!

Oliphants is cool..... Lots to ride there, have not explored all of it but got a variety.

We need a few more bikes though..... HINT HINT  :pot:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on March 19, 2014, 10:29:48 am
Ja come on Guys...lets get a day together and ride some obstacles and learn and have a laugh.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BFG on March 19, 2014, 10:57:04 am
Ja come on Guys...lets get a day together and ride some obstacles and learn and have a laugh.
I'd be keen to come watch :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on April 05, 2014, 07:00:23 am
Spent the morning on the skills track at ADA. Damn these bikes are fun to ride.

https://www.youtube.com/v/ubnidJzmtr4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Pom17 on April 06, 2014, 11:35:15 am
Cant play the video :'(
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on April 09, 2014, 10:13:28 am
Think it is time for new tyres as mine are looking a bit sorry for themselves.

What  are the recommended tyres?
So far I have found Golden tyres and Michelin.... any preferences?

Thanks

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on April 09, 2014, 01:15:15 pm
Michelin.
Price dependant though.
I can also get you Pirellis, but the sidewalls are very stiff for trials riding.

If you guys are keen we can organise a days riding from my house - still a bit overgrown, but enough to ride, and pretty beginner friendly - lots of traction. The guys who want to come through and try trials on their enduro bikes can also ride then, only one or two bits that would be a mission.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on April 09, 2014, 01:19:38 pm
Thanks Grim,

Sounds like a plan just not this month with all the public holidays, but will be keen in May.
Fairly sure we can twist Mr Hardy's arm to join in.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on April 09, 2014, 01:45:23 pm
Early May, I'm in Aus late May.

Ping Sithe - been a while since you rode at my place?

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii291/Gralowe/SharkTrials/P1000694.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Gralowe/media/SharkTrials/P1000694.jpg.html)

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii291/Gralowe/SharkTrials/P1000704.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Gralowe/media/SharkTrials/P1000704.jpg.html)

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii291/Gralowe/SharkTrials/P1000722.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/Gralowe/media/SharkTrials/P1000722.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on April 09, 2014, 01:55:41 pm
Cool.... will also give me chance to get new tyres.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on April 09, 2014, 04:22:30 pm
Grim, your place looks awesome!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on April 09, 2014, 04:41:28 pm
Grim...

I see the Michelins are in a competition and a lite version.
Whats the difference and which is better for a Noob?

Thanks

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on April 09, 2014, 05:12:56 pm
Grim...

I see the Michelins are in a competition and a lite version.
Whats the difference and which is better for a Noob?

Thanks

W
Both about the same for noob - lite is a bit more expensive, but I suspect that you'll have to take what you can get  :-\

Grim, your place looks awesome!  :thumleft:

It has it's advantages... ;)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on April 10, 2014, 07:04:58 am
Thanks Grim....  will see what I can get :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on April 10, 2014, 08:15:48 am
Fairly sure we can twist Mr Hardy's arm to join in.

no need to twist the arm,  ;D I have that day booked already...what ever day it is.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Milla on April 29, 2014, 12:21:58 pm
Wgat is the diffs between a Beta 290 and 300 2t?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on May 05, 2014, 02:18:14 pm
Wgat is the diffs between a Beta 290 and 300 2t?

About 10cc...

 :peepwall:

They are both evos?

The 300 will be a newer bike, slightly different power delivery and ergonomics every year. for a beginner there won't be much difference.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Milla on May 05, 2014, 02:39:22 pm
Let me put it this way. I want to maybe buy a trailsbike to try and better my skills for enduro. So I am scouting the internet, and just saw there were 290s and 300s, all Evo's. So the million dollar q is, will this kind of training help my skills for enduro riding? :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 05, 2014, 08:41:43 pm
It will help you for sure! Both technical and fitness.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Milla on May 06, 2014, 07:23:04 am
It will help you for sure! Both technical and fitness.
:thumleft: I really need to hone my technical skills. Did a Lowveld enduro this past weekend, and got lapped freaking twice by Mahoney and Altus de Wet!!
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on May 06, 2014, 09:18:56 am
The best advice I can give you is to get a trials bike and actually ride trials with it. I have seen a lot of guys buy trials bikes and ride them like enduro bikes - absolutely no point in that whatsoever.

It will help your technical riding an amazing amount if done properly.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 06, 2014, 10:51:29 pm
It will help you for sure! Both technical and fitness.
:thumleft: I really need to hone my technical skills. Did a Lowveld enduro this past weekend, and got lapped freaking twice by Mahoney and Altus de Wet!!

;D That's okay, I'm sure a lot will come back really quickly.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on June 15, 2014, 07:39:59 pm

If you guys are keen we can organise a days riding from my house - still a bit overgrown, but enough to ride, and pretty beginner friendly - lots of traction. The guys who want to come through and try trials on their enduro bikes can also ride then, only one or two bits that would be a mission.

The veld fires have come through this weekend,  so the riding at my place should be awesome from now on...

Let me know if any one is keen
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Sithe on June 16, 2014, 08:50:59 am
Hey Grim... long time indeed.

I have been doing enduro riding lately. Have ridden trials rarely this year.

I can do a ride this weekend. Do you still ride on Sundays there?

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: atkinse on June 16, 2014, 01:26:57 pm
Been on the trail bikes for years.

Had one of my biggest crashes ever on a bike with the trails, broken wrist (3rd time), elbow and 4 ribs. 5 years later and I am still trying to get up to speed.

My son is now 5 and we ride almost daily, him with the Oset and dad with the Gas Gas.

Here they are

Started with the trusty old

2001 Mostessa 301

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Montesa/DSC00315.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Montesa/DSC00315.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Montesa/DSC00313.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Montesa/DSC00313.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Montesa/DSC00312.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Montesa/DSC00312.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Montesa/DSC00311.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Montesa/DSC00311.jpg.html)


Then I got this one from Capper (never ben raced model, hahaha) only had a cracked front rim.


2005 Gas Gas 280

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas/DSC00322.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas/DSC00322.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas/DSC00321.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas/DSC00321.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas/DSC00320.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas/DSC00320.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas/DSC00317.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas/DSC00317.jpg.html)

Had to sell these chaps when we moved to the UAE 3 years ago.

Once here I found a Gas Gas dealer in Dubai and managed to get this beauty in December.

2013 Gas Gas 300 Pro

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2280_zps7d343f9a.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2280_zps7d343f9a.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2281_zpsccbec1fb.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2281_zpsccbec1fb.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2282_zps2842f1e6.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2282_zps2842f1e6.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2283_zps0bda3efa.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2283_zps0bda3efa.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2284_zps701d9a56.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2284_zps701d9a56.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2285_zpsc4e70e6d.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2285_zpsc4e70e6d.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/atkinsedwin/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2286_zps2de97b17.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/atkinsedwin/media/Gas%20Gas%20300/IMG_2286_zps2de97b17.jpg.html)


The fun now in getting up to speed again with a gammy wrist and weak core.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Cracker on June 16, 2014, 06:25:59 pm
Love it that you can by a bike in a cardboard box  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

I was thinking of starting trials next year to save on injuries as I get even older but seems like you guys bust up just the same .............

Mind you, my wrists, elbows, ankles and ........................... well, ja, those things are still intact so I might try it .........

BUT riding up vertical walls and steps and slimey rocks, without speed is very foreign to me - to be honest, it looks scary, no matter how slow you go

Hat's off ..................
Title: How not to start your trials bike!!!!!!
Post by: Wookie on August 04, 2014, 08:09:11 am
So in the 5 years I have been riding my worst injury has been caused by a lightweight bike that was not even running at the time  ;D

Stalled on a hill and missed kicked the lever.....
End result was the kick start lever embedded in my leg just below the knee and under the edge of knee guard.

It did not puncture my riding pants at all so did not think much about it. Still rode for about an hour and a half before I had the "squishy boot" feeling    :imaposer:

 Dumb Ass!!!!

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on August 04, 2014, 09:49:31 pm
Eina!

Hope it looks worse that it really was  :o :-\
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on August 05, 2014, 07:31:49 am
It's never too bad, as long as you have GOOD drugs!  Or so I heard on Saturday evening...!  :)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 05, 2014, 09:04:16 am
Ooooh good drugs are your friend...... :thumleft:


@ Alan.... went all the way to bone and nicked the tendon on the way.
And that was one with the blunt end of the kick start.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on August 05, 2014, 09:43:23 am
Makes my eye's water thinking about it!  Very nasty!

Hope you are well on the way to recovery!
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 05, 2014, 09:57:38 am
Thanks Alan..... Should be all good soon.

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 27, 2014, 02:21:51 pm
Need to give my Rev3 an oil change.

The recommended oil as per the hand book is 20W40 but I see a lot of people are using ATF in order to minimize the dreaded clutch drag, which my Rev3 has an issue with

Any recommendations from from our local riders as to what works / they have tried ....

Thanks

W

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on August 27, 2014, 04:03:49 pm
I use ATF     - clutch drags.
Tried 20W40 - clutch drags.
Did the clutch plate mod. Filed the tabs on all the steel plates. Took HOURS - clutch drags.
What a ..............drag.
Got a Gasgas.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 27, 2014, 04:10:42 pm
Thanks Espresso,

I had hoped to avoid doing the clutch mod but might just have to....

Will give the ATF a go and see what happens.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on August 27, 2014, 06:16:47 pm
I suppose I should try to quantify how much drag?
It's not that I can't hold the bike back and in fact some riders prefer t have the constant drag because it gives you something to work against.
What I don't like is when you start the bike, put it in gear and it just takes off until the oil warms up. What I try to do now is warm up the bike and then gingerly try the gears - particularly after the bike has been standing for a while.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 28, 2014, 07:55:35 am
Sounds about the same as the drag I am getting.

It seems to free up quicker if I put the bike in 3rd and rock it gently (with the clutch lever pulled) to "break" the clutch free before I start. Once started then ride around in 2nd /3rd with the lever pulled until it starts to free up.
Once warmed up the clutch does release but still has a "torque converter" type of feeling to it.

Hoping a thinner oil will help this a bit

Is the GG any better than the Beta with regards to the clutch drag?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on August 28, 2014, 10:37:33 am
The Gasgas has virtually no clutch drag.
My Rev3 is a 2003. My Gasgas is a 2006.
There seems to have been a huge change over those years.
The GG is way lighter feeling  and revs up quicker. The GG is ridden more with the throttle, the Rev3 more with the clutch.
The Rev3 is great for trail riding though - much smoother.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 28, 2014, 11:09:14 am
My Rev3 is a 2004, so possibly still has the same clutch issues as yours then.

This is my first trials bike so have no other reference as to performance. weight, etc.
Quite keen on an EVO.... never ridden one but there is something about the looks that just appeals  ;D
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: atkinse on August 28, 2014, 12:51:18 pm
I have has a 2001 Montessa with virtually no clutch drag.

Then got a 2006 Gas Gas 280 with the regular 2 stroke clutch drag, any wet clutch has engagement issues when cold.

Now have a 2014 Gas Gas 300 with the same amount of drag as the 2006 had. I have tried different oils always have the same amount of drag. over the years I have just learnt to accept it and ride accordingly.

Must also add that the 2006 was Brian Cappers bike, I asked him and his response was that it is normal. If he says so I am willing to accept that (frikkin clubman) :imaposer:

Love my trails bike

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 28, 2014, 01:07:33 pm
(frikkin clubman) :imaposer:



Think you might have just hit the nail on the head  ;D
Maybe I just need to get used to it  :3some:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: atkinse on August 28, 2014, 01:56:15 pm
(frikkin clubman) :imaposer:



Think you might have just hit the nail on the head  ;D
Maybe I just need to get used to it  :3some:

Ill ask Tony Bou when he comes for his riding lesson next week, don't know if I should trust the Spaniard though, apparently he can ride a trails bike, will have to wait and see. :ricky:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 28, 2014, 02:44:24 pm
Never heard of him.... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on August 28, 2014, 03:04:57 pm

Then got a 2006 Gas Gas 280 with the regular 2 stroke clutch drag, any wet clutch has engagement issues when cold.




My 2006 Gas Gas 280 has almost no drag if I use ATF.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 29, 2014, 08:38:30 am
Think I might have found part of the problem......

Dropped the oil last night and it was rather black.  :P
Re-filled with ATF and will give her a test tomorrow.

What is the recommended oil change interval on trials bikes?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on August 29, 2014, 09:36:28 am
I occasionally refill with parrafin, Ride for a couple of muinutes to loosen all the gunk, then replace with oil. Helps a lot.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on August 29, 2014, 09:49:39 am
I occasionally refill with parrafin, Ride for a couple of muinutes to loosen all the gunk, then replace with oil. Helps a lot.

Thanks Grim,Good idea..... will try that on the next oil change   :thumleft:

You riding the regional on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: espresso on August 29, 2014, 12:45:40 pm
I occasionally refill with parrafin, Ride for a couple of muinutes to loosen all the gunk, then replace with oil. Helps a lot.

Is it ok to ride with only paraffin?
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 01, 2014, 07:30:35 am
Thanks for the input guys..... ATF is the way to go!

Zero clutch drag!!!
Bike now feels very different ride now as well. The motor seems to pick up revs quicker...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on September 01, 2014, 09:54:44 am
I occasionally refill with parrafin, Ride for a couple of muinutes to loosen all the gunk, then replace with oil. Helps a lot.

Is it ok to ride with only paraffin?

It is in the gearbox,not engine, so it is fine. Basically it is only a minute or to at low to no load, to dissolve & thin all the gunk, then drain well & replace oil. Sometimes it is worth it to do a second oil change shortly afterwards just to be 100% sure.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 02, 2014, 10:22:01 am
This guy is NUCKING FUTS !!!!!

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on September 23, 2014, 03:15:12 pm
:)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 23, 2014, 04:21:45 pm
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on September 26, 2014, 03:35:14 pm
Gave  the beastie some TLC over the last week...

New tyres front and back
New rear shock lower spherical bearing ( Swingarm bearings still good so did not change them  :thumleft:)
New wheel bearings ( damn those were a bitch to get out... think they were the original ones from 2004  :eek7:)
General clean and bolt tighten.

All ready for practice again tomorrow.

I now have a race number and there are two club events remaining this year so will be entering those in prep for competing next year  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 01, 2014, 09:26:56 am

I will be riding my first club event on the 9th of Nov and just trying to get an idea of fuel and fitness requirements  ;D
Few questions for those who have competed in a trials event..... Grim, Sithe, Espresso?


1/ How many sections do you complete in the day?

2/ How many hours do you have to complete the required number of sections?

3/ How much fuel do I need to take along

Thanks

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on October 01, 2014, 01:02:39 pm
Where is the trial?

For Clubman it is usually 3 rounds of 7 or 8 sections.
About 4 hours,  1st round takes a lot more time to complete because you are walking the lines first. You should have plenty of time to finish.
I used to take a fresh 10l, never used more than a tank or 2 though. Small venues (manie mulder etc.) a couple of litres is plenty, Magalies or the Glen a bit more.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 01, 2014, 01:21:26 pm
Great.... thanks Grim.

The November one will be at Manie Mulder the year end will be at Syringa.
Both are smaller venues but will take a spare 5L just in case.

Fitness is coming on so might actually make the 3 rounds  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on October 01, 2014, 02:10:30 pm
Great.... thanks Grim.

The November one will be at Manie Mulder the year end will be at Syringa.
Both are smaller venues but will take a spare 5L just in case.

Fitness is coming on so might actually make the 3 rounds  :thumleft:


The first section will take 80% of your energy...
If you relax from the beginning you should be fine.

Manie is a great venue, can be fun after a good rain though.
And practice tight turns on steep slopes.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 01, 2014, 02:27:29 pm
Thanks for the tip  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Been working a lot on balance and turns on almost every surface I can find.... so getting there  ::) (slowly)
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 22, 2014, 01:15:49 pm
Quick question....

Can we ride club events without having a WOMZA race license?  (can't find any details on the NRTC site)

There are two club events left this year that I would like to enter but don't really want to take a race lic just for two events.
Would rather apply for one n the new year.


Thanks

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on October 22, 2014, 03:22:27 pm
I don't think so, will find out if you can get a day license. That is only the next trial, the last one is a training trial, so no womza license needed.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 22, 2014, 03:27:00 pm
Thanks Grim,

Tried post the question the FB group but had no response and not sure who I should be contacting to find out.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 23, 2014, 07:36:32 am
Grim.....

Think I have solved the riddle..... found a copy of the race regs on the NRTC site and it says that all classes require a WOMZA lic for the event. A Club Lic will be accepted for clubman class.

I have applied for a 1st time (club) Lic with WOMZA lets hope they can process it in time.

Cheers

W
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on October 23, 2014, 01:26:28 pm
Grim.....

Think I have solved the riddle..... found a copy of the race regs on the NRTC site and it says that all classes require a WOMZA lic for the event. A Club Lic will be accepted for clubman class.

I have applied for a 1st time (club) Lic with WOMZA lets hope they can process it in time.

Cheers

W

Here is the mail I got -

He can take a license of R100 for the last event.  ( WOMZA website, herewith the link: https://creator.zoho.com/2013womza/bikes2014/form-perma/Womza_app/m8yK9HdFyddZ4CjQ0X54yqXv4q97nu1A7MRQHCGsqhzXGY7tPeJXAsZNHvCGJ5WekOk12XARbhfXvYRdn7D8FnfKdFWjBFuAJqTZ/  - and then choose - 1st Time Competitor (Club Licence) R100.

Should you require any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Fiona Jones
Sporting Manager - 2 Wheels
Tel Direct: +27 11 744 3007

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on October 23, 2014, 03:02:42 pm
Thanks for the effort Grim....  :thumleft:

That's the one I applied (and paid) for this morning and got a mail back earlier saying I should have my LIC number tomorrow.
Quite on the ball... :thumleft: :thumleft:

Thanks again.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on November 10, 2014, 08:12:38 am
First trial attended..... Can't quite say "done" as I paddled a whole lot and fell down the same bank twice.
Also underestimated the fitness levels required in a monumental way.

First round was hard going and I was way to stiff on the bike. Had Grim's words ringing in my head about the first rounds sapping 80% of your energy and needing to be relaxed on the bike. First round took me two hours   :eek7:. I was taken under the wing a of two of the other clubman riders and with their assistance managed to figure out the line through the sections but we took a long time to get through all 10 sections.

I was pretty much toast after the first round but pushed on. Round two went a lot better and completed the round in ~50min.
Even managed to start relaxing on the bike. Riding wise there was a definite improvement over round 1's performance and even managed to clean a few of the easier sections.... still managed to fall down the same bank in section 2 though  ::)
Unfortunately by the end of the round my legs were shot and calves were cramping.

All in all awesome day out and some of the best fun I have had on two wheels  :thumleft:
Thanks Taz and Greatwhite for the moral support...

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on November 10, 2014, 08:34:13 am
Fantastic W!  Sorry we could not have been there to support, but glad to hear you had a terrific first experience! :thumleft:

Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on November 10, 2014, 08:40:01 am
Hey Mal....

Thanks, Pity that it clashed with the DP1/2 weekend. You guys would have had such a giggle at me yesterday.
Next one is on the 6th Dec
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Malibu on November 10, 2014, 08:48:36 am
You'll probably be a lot more relaxed for that one, now that you have a good idea what it is all about...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on November 10, 2014, 08:59:34 am
Was pretty nervous yesterday and then the first section I rode I managed to fall off a bank.
Luckily it was muddy so was a soft landing  :lol8:

Yesterday for me was very much an exploratory outing and had very little idea on what to expect.
Now have a much better idea on what needs to be worked on / improved.  :thumleft:

The next trial is the year end training trial so should be good fun.
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: GRIM on November 12, 2014, 12:59:17 pm
Congrats  :thumleft:

My son said that you were looking a little poked when you came around to his section  :imaposer:

I'm toying with the idea of riding the year end trial for fun...
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on November 12, 2014, 03:43:35 pm

My son said that you were looking a little poked when you came around to his section  :imaposer:



Now there is an understatement !!!  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Cool will be good to catch up with you.. :thumleft:
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: Wookie on February 11, 2015, 07:48:25 am
Looks kinda familiar..... :imaposer:


https://www.youtube.com/v/OPSyVolbN5w
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: alanB on September 27, 2016, 09:31:52 am
Finally rode a trials bike on the weekend (thanks Bertie  :thumleft:)

Took it very slow, but was able to hop a few logs and stuff - been yearning to carry on playing ever since.  I'm afraid I may been infected....
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: PLUTO on September 28, 2016, 07:43:41 am
Hi there Gauteng riders

are any of you oaks coming to Cape Town for the National trial on 15 and 16 October?  It is two days, and two different venues in the winelands.  Very nice riding areas ...
Shout if anybody needs help with logistics.
Rgds Pluto
Title: Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
Post by: jpcussen on April 18, 2017, 01:47:34 pm
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