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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 08:56:10 am

Title: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 08:56:10 am
"Unstoppable enduro" is the term used by a well-known German motorcycle manufacturer in an add for their huge transcontinental cruisers.

I have deduced that either a. BMW knows so preciously little about actual enduro that they are naively abusing the terminology,
                                         b. BMW are so sure that there customers know so preciously little about real enduro that they will not know better, and can thus be mislead,
                                   
                                         c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.

Would members kindly air opinions?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: J-dog on August 02, 2013, 09:04:18 am
Enduro mode on baby!!!!

tweespoor sand all the way!!!

yeeha.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: RobC on August 02, 2013, 09:11:25 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enduro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enduro)

2SD porn on that page... :sip:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: sting on August 02, 2013, 09:20:39 am
I agree with you 2SD. I have seen it and it's been annoying me for a while now.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: RobC on August 02, 2013, 09:24:09 am
Dan... marketing is the name of the game... you have to realize the world is filled with sheeple that believe anything tossed at them on their HD screens.

Then you have real enduro riders that prefer Yamaha. :sip:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: swart skaap on August 02, 2013, 09:24:50 am
BMW has no clue about what enduro even means.
They tried their hand at enduro R&D and their G450X failed miserably.

To answer the question; sadly it's a,b and c. In most cases, the riders know as much about "enduro" as the manufacturer.
Bunch of wannabee's

*waiting for the 1st 1200GS rider to post how his bike is better than a superbike around a track while beating a 2T 300 at The Roof*
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: J-dog on August 02, 2013, 09:27:49 am
Dan, I think they got the "unstoppable" right  :imaposer:

try stopping 400kg of bike, rider and full enduro panniers within 200m  :imaposer:

eidt: Forgot to add the weight of the BMW jacket with built in bum flap and 2 way radio system. Make it 500kg  :laughing4:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: swart skaap on August 02, 2013, 09:30:11 am
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Breekbeen on August 02, 2013, 09:33:57 am
"Unstoppable enduro"
                                   
                                       
 c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.



 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Kaboef on August 02, 2013, 09:36:13 am
Unslappable steering.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Tr0jan on August 02, 2013, 09:38:18 am
should rather say unstopable offroad. ive not seen any gs' ride wild west  :peepwall:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Snafu on August 02, 2013, 09:39:33 am
So what does enduro mean?

Test of endurance maybe?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: RobC on August 02, 2013, 09:51:07 am
So what does enduro mean?

Test of endurance maybe?

"en•dur•o (ɛnˈdʊər oʊ, -ˈdyʊər oʊ)

n., pl. -dur•os.
an automobile or motorcycle race designed to test the endurance of the driver and vehicle.
[1930–35; appar. a pseudo-Italian or Sp derivative of endurance]"
The Free Online Dictionary
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Stofdonkie on August 02, 2013, 09:51:59 am
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:

Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: MDT on August 02, 2013, 10:05:46 am
I know what you are trying to say and agree

BUT

Ze German checked wikipedia (Enduro is a form of motorcycle sport run on courses that are predominantly off-road.) and if you use that meaning zen ze german add is not bad.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: lecap on August 02, 2013, 10:07:14 am
"Enduro" has a slightly more differentiated meaning in German:

Originally and generally it refers to a road legal but dirt / off road capable motorcycle.

The XT500 carried the term on its side covers (some year models, German market version, not sure about the rest). Earlier converted road bikes will usually be referred to as "Scrambler". An enduro is factory build dual purpose  bike.


Later variants: Sports or Hard Enduro: Coined by KTM for the LC4 in 1995. Mostly & generally competition bikes with additions to make them road legal.

Allround Enduro: KLR, DR, XT, LC4 Adventure... These are usually referred to as "Enduro" without any addition

Rallye Enduro: Sports Enduros specially adapted for rallye use with large fuel capacity, SatNav, Road Book etc.

"Reiseenduro" best trranslated with Enduro Tourer: Trend kicked off by the R80G/S. Note that G/S stands for Gelände/ Straße and on the later models (without the slash) it stands for Geen Sand, NOT to be mixed up with "GS" which in Germany is used as a term for Enduro Racing (Geländesport - off road sport).
A Reiseenduro will have less off road but more long distance & high speed capabilities and is usually build to carry two people and luggage.
They typically see little if any dirt roads and are primarily a variant of touring motorcycle.


I can only agree to the term "unstoppable":
My R1100GS flies like a butterfly and lands like a Grand Piano. I am sure if you ramp it over a bump it makes a dent in the road surface upon landing.
It's so bloody heavy that you can't stop it from falling over once it has decided to do so.

Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Herminator on August 02, 2013, 10:11:46 am
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:



I like the fact that that Yamaha makes musical instruments and bikes
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: swart skaap on August 02, 2013, 10:13:14 am
What they think enduro means:
(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad229/dirtWarp/ECBashjpg033_zpsae20ed46.jpg) (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/dirtWarp/media/ECBashjpg033_zpsae20ed46.jpg.html)


..in reality:
(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad229/dirtWarp/hare-scramble-710x302_zpsc8f7d901.jpg)
(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad229/dirtWarp/2008_CRF450X_6_zps960028c5.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Pleco on August 02, 2013, 10:57:54 am
The block of flats rides very nicely in the sand thank you. Tweespoor and dunes are no issue. You work a bit harder but it rides well. Even with a pillion.  :thumleft:

I sincerely hope my bike is ready for the BMW club sand day. Would like to pitch up with the wife on the back.  :biggrin:

But where Uncle Dan and GJ plays in the enduro game... The KLR could not even ride there.

To put the Enduro label onto a bike that is slowly but surely morphing into a road bike is a bit ridiculous though. Even KTM cannot use that on the new 1190. Its like all 4x4s as well. It becomes an image thing more than a capability thing.

But if you want to cross Africa and Europe all the way to Siberia and you pick the route well, it would be 95% tarmac. Which would be best. A road orientated bike with an Enduro label or a road legal Enduro?  :peepwall:


Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 11:04:01 am
Some very agreeable comments so far.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Hando on August 02, 2013, 11:10:08 am
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:



I have worked in the audio and music instrument industry. I reckon the Yamaha amplifiers, speakers and instruments are some of the best in world. I reckon that Yamaha makes very good toys no matter what they do.

Hifi
PA
Instruments
motorbikes
boat engines
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Skip_ZA on August 02, 2013, 11:12:36 am
+1 Pleco & Hando

And i dont see those "enduro" bikes fully landed with gear + Pillion?  :pot:

So enduro can mean anything to anyone, the word is not reserved for MX style enduro's. And i think the Germans would see it that way.. :peepwall:

Just another brand bashing, and blah blah blah... :sip:

Plus in 2009 Germany's Andreas Lettenbichler won the ROMANIACS (world most extreme enduro off-road motorcycle race) on a BMW G450 X...  :o

You ouks must stop being jealous... it makes you nasty!  :imaposer:

I takes alot of "enduro" to ride a BMW 500kg tank, ok  ;D
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Hondsekierie on August 02, 2013, 11:23:09 am
+1 Pleco & Hando

And i dont see those "enduro" bikes fully landed with gear + Pillion?  :pot:

So enduro can mean anything to anyone, the word is not reserved for MX style enduro's. And i think the Germans would see it that way.. :peepwall:

Just another brand bashing, and blah blah blah... :sip:

Plus in 2009 Germany's Andreas Lettenbichler won the ROMANIACS (world most extreme enduro off-road motorcycle race) on a BMW G450 X...  :o

You ouks must stop being jealous... it makes you nasty!  :imaposer:

I takes alot of "enduro" to ride a BMW 500kg tank, ok  ;D

That is very true.  Would love to see some of the enduro gods on those tanks duck walking :lol8:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Andre E on August 02, 2013, 11:25:20 am
It's a fucking sales slogan.
Nothing more.
Get over it.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: J-dog on August 02, 2013, 11:25:56 am
danie, i guess you didn't know that the new beemer has an "enduro on" switch?  :sip:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Pleco on August 02, 2013, 11:28:23 am
danie, i guess you didn't know that the new beemer has an "enduro on" switch?  :sip:

Straatvalk knoppie?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Moondog on August 02, 2013, 11:33:56 am
This is such old news - why bother bringing it up now?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: masehare on August 02, 2013, 11:34:58 am
"Unstoppable enduro"
                                   
                                       
 c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.



 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Unstoppable price increases. Dit maak my moer suur. Daai nuwe 800GS wat ek wou gehad het, kan ek al lankal op my maag skryf...  :'(
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Buff on August 02, 2013, 11:35:02 am
It's a fucking sales slogan.
Nothing more.
Get over it.

But it's incorrect... but then again most of them are, like "Race Ready" ;-)
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: the real Takbok on August 02, 2013, 11:35:28 am
Most marketing is bullshit in any case.

I have a F800 and I bought it because when I first saw one I wanted one.

Didn't and still don't give two shits about unstoppable whatever or musical whatever.

Yes my bike has it's flaws like any other and brilliant in some other aspects.

But unstoppable, no way no bike is.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: the real Takbok on August 02, 2013, 11:36:11 am
Also no enduro bike
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Eddy81 on August 02, 2013, 11:46:00 am
Well thus far my BMW has proven much more unstoppable than my ktms,  both the ktms left me on the side of the road more than once, 990 and 690!  

Oh yeah Ktm, "ready to race" just take a trailer with because you prob. Gonna have a breakdown, and "ready to race" just avoid the pebbles or your front wheel will fart out all the air,  "ready to race" just remember to take the bike to Hilton for a suspension upgrade... "Ready to race" just remember to put grease around your air filter or avoid dirt roads...

BMW you sleg ding!! God forbid any other manufacturer starts producing 200kg+ bikes that they market for off-road riding with bikes jumping through the air and sliding around corners ala Dakar... If manufacturers see what BMW is up to an try and copy them the world of motorcycling as we know it will end!  Lets just hope that no other manufacturer starts producing these unfinished, heavy road bikes full of electronics and weight and try and sell them to a bunch of wild dogs!  No wild dog will want bikes like these!

 :pot: how's that for stirring the pot with some ugly truth!
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Skip_ZA on August 02, 2013, 12:00:19 pm
 :laughing4:

Eddy ek like dit kwaai!!  :thumleft:\


 OUks are just jealous! :ricky:

 :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Mambat on August 02, 2013, 12:04:24 pm
It's a fucking sales slogan.
Nothing more.
Get over it.

But it's incorrect... but then again most of them are, like "Race Ready" ;-)

Totally!

And Dakar and the Tuareg Silhouette on the 990..... same kak!
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Mambat on August 02, 2013, 12:05:39 pm

I put it in the same bullshit category as the Banks caring for you and the environment.......... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: ETS on August 02, 2013, 12:13:23 pm
Well thus far my BMW has proven much more unstoppable than my ktms,  both the ktms left me on the side of the road more than once, 990 and 690!  

Oh yeah Ktm, "ready to race" just take a trailer with because you prob. Gonna have a breakdown, and "ready to race" just avoid the pebbles or your front wheel will fart out all the air,  "ready to race" just remember to take the bike to Hilton for a suspension upgrade... "Ready to race" just remember to put grease around your air filter or avoid dirt roads...

BMW you sleg ding!! God forbid any other manufacturer starts producing 200kg+ bikes that they market for off-road riding with bikes jumping through the air and sliding around corners ala Dakar... If manufacturers see what BMW is up to an try and copy them the world of motorcycling as we know it will end!  Lets just hope that no other manufacturer starts producing these unfinished, heavy road bikes full of electronics and weight and try and sell them to a bunch of wild dogs!  No wild dog will want bikes like these!

 :pot: how's that for stirring the pot with some ugly truth!

Beg to differ-- KTM Enduros are ready to race--- go buy a different brand and try RACING. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Hondsekierie on August 02, 2013, 12:14:35 pm

I put it in the same bullshit category as the Banks caring for you and the environment.......... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Agree 100%, they actually feel a flying fuck
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: ETS on August 02, 2013, 12:16:24 pm

I put it in the same bullshit category as the Banks caring for you and the environment.......... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Agree 100%, they actually feel a flying fuck

ENB-- hoe kan ons help????? ha fokken ha.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BikerJan on August 02, 2013, 12:30:29 pm
"Unstoppable enduro" is the term used by a well-known German motorcycle manufacturer in an add for their huge transcontinental cruisers.

I have deduced that either a. BMW knows so preciously little about actual enduro that they are naively abusing the terminology,
                                         b. BMW are so sure that there customers know so preciously little about real enduro that they will not know better, and can thus be mislead,
                                   
                                         c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.

Would members kindly air opinions?






you always get some F#@*ing assholes
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BRUSH on August 02, 2013, 12:52:36 pm

I put it in the same bullshit category as the Banks caring for you and the environment.......... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Agree 100%, they actually feel a flying fuck

One like this maybe?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: silentbob on August 02, 2013, 01:08:09 pm
Well considering that the vast majority of their "enduro" bikes will never see dirt, they can claim what they like. It's more a "life style" sales pitch....

Though it is quite a claim... How many BMW's did you see on the Dakar?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: swart skaap on August 02, 2013, 01:33:46 pm
Well thus far my BMW has proven much more unstoppable than my ktms,  both the ktms left me on the side of the road more than once, 990 and 690! 

Oh yeah Ktm, "ready to race" just take a trailer with because you prob. Gonna have a breakdown, and "ready to race" just avoid the pebbles or your front wheel will fart out all the air,  "ready to race" just remember to take the bike to Hilton for a suspension upgrade... "Ready to race" just remember to put grease around your air filter or avoid dirt roads...

BMW you sleg ding!! God forbid any other manufacturer starts producing 200kg+ bikes that they market for off-road riding with bikes jumping through the air and sliding around corners ala Dakar... If manufacturers see what BMW is up to an try and copy them the world of motorcycling as we know it will end!  Lets just hope that no other manufacturer starts producing these unfinished, heavy road bikes full of electronics and weight and try and sell them to a bunch of wild dogs!  No wild dog will want bikes like these!

 :pot: how's that for stirring the pot with some ugly truth!
Jy gaan aambeie in jou nek skiet as jy so aangaan.

The point was that BMW blatantly lies and you zealots actually support it?
 ???
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Eddy81 on August 02, 2013, 01:47:31 pm
Well thus far my BMW has proven much more unstoppable than my ktms,  both the ktms left me on the side of the road more than once, 990 and 690!  

Oh yeah Ktm, "ready to race" just take a trailer with because you prob. Gonna have a breakdown, and "ready to race" just avoid the pebbles or your front wheel will fart out all the air,  "ready to race" just remember to take the bike to Hilton for a suspension upgrade... "Ready to race" just remember to put grease around your air filter or avoid dirt roads...

BMW you sleg ding!! God forbid any other manufacturer starts producing 200kg+ bikes that they market for off-road riding with bikes jumping through the air and sliding around corners ala Dakar... If manufacturers see what BMW is up to an try and copy them the world of motorcycling as we know it will end!  Lets just hope that no other manufacturer starts producing these unfinished, heavy road bikes full of electronics and weight and try and sell them to a bunch of wild dogs!  No wild dog will want bikes like these!

 :pot: how's that for stirring the pot with some ugly truth!
Jy gaan aambeie in jou nek skiet as jy so aangaan.

The point was that BMW blatantly lies and you zealots actually support it?
 ???

Yeah, not exactly what was meant, point is all the manufacturers lie, it's part of their marketing campaigns when it comes to adventure bikes... Hehe see I'm gonna climb on my "unstoppable" enduro this weekend and have lots of fun...
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 02:44:53 pm
Eddy, please just stop in time!!! :imaposer:

It is a marketing pitch, as clairvoyantly seen by a WD member :imaposer:, but it is false advertising.

At least when Yamaha says; "Someday you'll own a Yamaha" it is true. Ask multiple KTM warrior Despres. :ricky:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Eddy81 on August 02, 2013, 03:22:01 pm
 ;D I'll give "like the crow flies" a new meaning!

  Cyril is doing brilliantly on the Yamaha, How is he doing now in the dos soertos? Last time I checked he was far in the lead!

Let's also just remember that it has allot to do with the rider, like those advertising campaigns with the super tenere in the sand dunes of some desert, I will not be able to do that, so looking at the ad it gives the impression that taking that bike into the sand dunes is a normal thing... But it's not...

Did you guys see peterhansel in the desert with the yamaha R1?  So yeah, maybe all these bikes are unstoppable, jut depends on who is riding...

Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Buddy on August 02, 2013, 03:27:06 pm
BMW has won the Dakar a number of times, isn't that a super-enduro?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 03:32:44 pm
BMW has won the Dakar a number of times, isn't that a super-enduro?

Not at all, the Dakar is like a super-offroad. And this is another lie, BMW never won the Dakar, aftermarket companies did, badged as BMW's. Google HPN. :-[
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: billy-joe on August 02, 2013, 03:46:29 pm
Come on boys, don't take the bait!  :pot:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 03:48:14 pm
Come on boys, don't take the bait!  :pot:

Aag, all in good spirit! And the bait has been taken.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Bill the Bong on August 02, 2013, 04:02:02 pm
Danie, Danie, Danie.  Wat was die vraag nou weer?  O ja, hoekom het my nuwe F800GS semi-slicks op as dit 'n enduro is?  Wil ook weet.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 04:06:41 pm
Danie, Danie, Danie.  Wat was die vraag nou weer?  O ja, hoekom het my nuwe F800GS semi-slicks op as dit 'n enduro is?  Wil ook weet.


Het hulle jou nie dalk n stel ou bande op die fiets verkoop nie?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Bill the Bong on August 02, 2013, 04:09:38 pm
Nee, fok.  Splinternuut.  Lyk soos cut-slicks.  Werk mega goed op my 2km grondpad na my huis toe.  Veral met ABS nog aan.  Unstoppable is presies die regte naam.  Hy stop eenvoudig glad nie.  Gee wel jou regter voet 'n massage...

Google Pirelli Scorpion Trail
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: billy-joe on August 02, 2013, 04:11:01 pm
Come on boys, don't take the bait!  :pot:

Aag, all in good spirit! And the bait has been taken.

Hook line n sinker! Pity some boys take it seriously. To be fair, this should be in te comedy section!

Btw, what is the tuning forks blurb for the S10?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 04:16:35 pm
Come on boys, don't take the bait!  :pot:

Aag, all in good spirit! And the bait has been taken.

Hook line n sinker! Pity some boys take it seriously. To be fair, this should be in te comedy section!

Btw, what is the tuning forks blurb for the S10?

Nee, nog nie gesien nie, triple tuning forks is Yamaha se embleem, afkomstig van hul oorsprong in musiekinstrumente.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Karel Kat on August 02, 2013, 04:27:25 pm
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:

I like the fact that that Yamaha makes musical instruments and bikes

Years ago in Pretoria there was a guy called Neels van Niekerk who was one of the best two-stroke tuners around. He also made backyard expansion boxes under the name "Vannik" and had a very good scientific understanding of pressure waves. Anyway, he was a Yamaha man through and through and always said that nobody could build better 2-strokes because Yamaha also made music instruments and therefore they were the only ones who really understood sound waves.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Eddy81 on August 02, 2013, 04:30:43 pm
It's all in good fun, a chance to have a little laugh and get some sarcasm practice in... If it weren't for these type of posts the wild dog adventure forum will be half empty and seriously boring!!

Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 05:13:43 pm
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:

I like the fact that that Yamaha makes musical instruments and bikes

Years ago in Pretoria there was a guy called Neels van Niekerk who was one of the best two-stroke tuners around. He also made backyard expansion boxes under the name "Vannik" and had a very good scientific understanding of pressure waves. Anyway, he was a Yamaha man through and through and always said that nobody could build better 2-strokes because Yamaha also made music instruments and therefore they were the only ones who really understood sound waves.


Never met them, but guys like Neels and Arno Stoffberg were 2stroke boffins of note!!

Oh yes, BMW= Bullshit Media Works.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 02, 2013, 08:01:00 pm
Eddy, please just stop in time!!! :imaposer:

It is a marketing pitch, as clairvoyantly seen by a WD member :imaposer:, but it is false advertising.

At least when Yamaha says; "Someday you'll own a Yamaha" it is true. Ask multiple KTM warrior Despres. :ricky:


Kom Danie. False advertising - almal doen dit.

A few examples:

(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2008/05/Top%207%20least%20extreme%20extreme%20games/Screens/doaxx--article_image.jpg)

 ::)
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2008/05/Top%207%20least%20extreme%20extreme%20games/Screens/xtremebowling3--article_image.jpg)

Are you serious?
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/hjJm_Hzc6Yg/0.jpg)


(http://www.colourworks.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Nike-Extreme-Experience-water-580x356.jpg)


(http://www.thedrum.com/uploads/news/old/19373/master.HarleyDavidson.jpg)

Forward thinking? Kak man.
(http://snipp76477.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/yamaha.gif)


(http://www.motorsportretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ad.jpg)


WTF?? (translation: Some have a think for the street, others for the jungle...) That's false advertising!!  :dousing:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :spitcoffee:  :snorting:  :lol8:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-as3SnmOI1bI/TgqZOTgIsmI/AAAAAAAACyE/fti4euB4tkg/s640/yamaha-ads-3q.jpg)


(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2taEhRaBMiGnSgz7hdqLvVFF6mioeQMhYZG72QFvUpU_gAVGteA)

Kak man, this is false advertising ;D
(http://www.ibelieveinadv.com/commons/fz6_street_ing.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: DSNewbie on August 02, 2013, 08:04:57 pm
The GS thing is such old and really crappy bait, but 2SD certainly knows how to present it too keep on catching  :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 08:06:08 pm
 :imaposer: :imaposer:

Come now Neil, difference is that the YZ/WR REALLY does have reverse cylinders, and Kent Anderson WAS REALLY world champion on Yamahas.

I do not know what to make of the rhinopotamus talking on his cell while riding a green scooter though. :eek7:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 08:07:01 pm
The GS thing is such old and really crappy bait, but 2SD certainly knows how to present it too keep on catching  :imaposer:

The smelliest bait lands the most exotic dish.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Catchy on August 02, 2013, 08:37:53 pm
Dan, when it comes to BM's Im with you, but I just had to throw this into the mix.  :pot:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 02, 2013, 08:44:00 pm
:imaposer: :imaposer:

Come now Neil, difference is that the YZ/WR REALLY does have reverse cylinders, and Kent Anderson WAS REALLY world champion on Yamahas.

I do not know what to make of the rhinopotamus talking on his cell while riding a green scooter though. :eek7:


Do I need to spell it out to you> Buy a Yamaha and get a pretty girl free. Its about as impossible as a HP2 riding up a waste dump in Ertzberg. ;D

My Yamaha didn't bring me any luck either - not as much as I paid for anyway...

Yamaha invented dirt? I don't think so..

Its all sex, lies and videotape I tell ya!  :thumleft:

Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 09:47:12 pm
:imaposer: :imaposer:

Come now Neil, difference is that the YZ/WR REALLY does have reverse cylinders, and Kent Anderson WAS REALLY world champion on Yamahas.

I do not know what to make of the rhinopotamus talking on his cell while riding a green scooter though. :eek7:


Do I need to spell it out to you> Buy a Yamaha and get a pretty girl free. Its about as impossible as a HP2 riding up a waste dump in Ertzberg. ;D

My Yamaha didn't bring me any luck either - not as much as I paid for anyway...

Yamaha invented dirt? I don't think so..

Its all sex, lies and videotape I tell ya!  :thumleft:




No, no, no, Yamaha never invented dirt, dirt comes from Adolf's country. :peepwall: If you think your Yammie brought you no luck, imagine how badly you would have been off on a
G450X :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 02, 2013, 09:48:12 pm
Dan, when it comes to BM's Im with you, but I just had to throw this into the mix.  :pot:


Enduro, 90, 100, 125, 175, 250, 360 or 400cc. :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 02, 2013, 09:57:30 pm
Ja no well fine Danie, you have a point there ;D
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Sithe on August 02, 2013, 10:37:54 pm
Let's not forget the KTM 950 Super Enduro   :peepwall:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Wildcoast on August 03, 2013, 02:27:31 pm
 :pot:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 03, 2013, 02:36:22 pm
Now watch Wildcoast put up a pic of a huge capacity twin competing against small singles. And then brag about the win?! :xxbah: :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: alanB on August 03, 2013, 07:55:16 pm
Hmm

If someone mentioned "unstoppable enduro" to me this is what would flash through my head

(http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/05/27/93236/350da07525bcb4e03acb05301bdc6586.jpg)

(http://www.yamaha.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Kenny-4-Kei-National-compressed.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics3/Erzberg2009-3-5.jpg)

Not this:

(http://www.whichbike.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/R1200GS_Adventure3.jpg)

I know people get very upset about it, but clearly there is a difference.

What I don't understand is the GS1200 is a great bike, nobody can argue with that!  Its an icon and has single handedly created its own market niche and then became one of the world's most successful bikes, with other OEM;s scrambling to copy it!  So why do BMW insist on trying to pretend its something its not?  Nobody in their right mind thinks its an "unstoppable enduro" so why try and push that line?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 03, 2013, 08:00:38 pm
Because pushing those type of lines is what created the GS1200 success. It is based on false advertising.

There is even a yearly BMW "ECO-challenge". How cutely misleading.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 03, 2013, 08:09:08 pm
I think purists need to get over the ethics of advertising. ;D
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 03, 2013, 08:12:11 pm
Ja but like another forum member said recently, you know how 2SD can carry on.

Purists should rather get our way and get ads real. 2nd thought, who needs ads? Surely only those that need to know what they should buy?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Wildcoast on August 03, 2013, 08:30:50 pm
Now watch Wildcoast put up a pic of a huge capacity twin competing against small singles. And then brag about the win?! :xxbah: :imaposer

Actually I lost interest in the Dakar when they started limiting capacity, the whole appeal to me was the insanity of huge capacity dirt bikes piloted by crazy suicidal fools at 200kmh across the desert.

Think about it, it spawned the 950/950se and HP2, awesome bikes in any ones language, my favourite Dakar bike was not actually a twin........
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: zacapa on August 03, 2013, 09:10:31 pm
Unstoppable? This comes to mind, much more Enduro anyway straight out of the box at less than 1/2 the price.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: stan1975 on August 03, 2013, 09:16:04 pm
I think if Toyota made an enduro bike it would be the best and also a great seller... :pot: :ricky: :3some:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: zacapa on August 03, 2013, 09:16:32 pm
One better  :pot:
And at the point of becoming a troll on this forum fred I shall stop with further propaganda for the big Eitch.
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: stan1975 on August 03, 2013, 11:15:39 pm
The one...
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 04, 2013, 08:56:49 am
No Stan, for true unstoppable enduro you need to lose the huge fairing, and fit a 300cc 2stroke. :imaposer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: stan1975 on August 04, 2013, 09:20:00 am
No Stan, for true unstoppable enduro you need to lose the huge fairing, and fit a 300cc 2stroke. :imaposer:


+100 and a kick starter...  :laughing4:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: stan1975 on August 04, 2013, 09:25:03 am
Great bike even I hated the fact that it was named after my home towns rival town... PE  :imaposer: :lamer:
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: Hingsding on August 04, 2013, 10:40:50 am
What het geword van NISSAN  se "ONVERNIETIGBARE" engines?
Title: Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 04, 2013, 11:10:25 am
What het geword van NISSAN  se "ONVERNIETIGBARE" engines?


Die bakwerk het almal om die enjin weggeroes. :imaposer:
Die enjins is nou almal waterpompe op plase.