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Title: Nostalgic old Yammies - pics added - frett revived
Post by: EssBee on September 02, 2013, 12:29:18 pm
Drooled over these beauties at Startline on Thursday... :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Dux on September 02, 2013, 12:48:02 pm
Very nice , I am sure 2SD will make a mess in his trousers  >:D
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 02, 2013, 01:02:49 pm
Very nice , I am sure 2SD will make a mess in his trousers  >:D

My thoughts exactly.... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Gérrard on September 02, 2013, 01:22:15 pm
Not only him. Will always be my first love  :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: mtr89 on September 02, 2013, 06:07:51 pm
I was there two Saturday's ago,those bikes are in reallybgood nick.had a good long look at them.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Tiger8 on September 02, 2013, 06:39:37 pm
I owned a 1981 Yammie XS1100Special, I still miss that bike, always loved a Yammie.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: TREVALLY on September 02, 2013, 07:03:03 pm
I can remember being in the workshop with Tommy while he was working on the XS 1100. Still in the old Charlie Young shop in Smith Street. What impressed me was the precision it was put together, every nut was wired. The brakes were way ahead of their time for local racing. Who owns it now? Must be worth a packet!!
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Welsh on September 02, 2013, 07:10:16 pm
I owned a 1981 Yammie XS1100Special, I still miss that bike, always loved a Yammie.  :thumleft:

I had an XS1100 when I arrived here in 81, handling, what handling that was a peeeeeeg  >:(   
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 02, 2013, 08:12:55 pm
I owned a 1981 Yammie XS1100Special, I still miss that bike, always loved a Yammie.  :thumleft:

I had an XS1100 when I arrived here in 81, handling, what handling that was a peeeeeeg  >:(   

No Welsh man, you're not suppose to take corners on these! Unless it is Rod Gray's bike pictured above.
I also owned a chain-conversion XS1100 which I bought in boxes from the then owner of Strand hydraulics. The shimming was in some places stacked up using broken Minora blades!
It was a nightmare, but I got it running, and unfortunately sold it on. It really went well.

Rod's bike was converted to chaindrive to enable the team to change final drive ratios for different tracks, which you cannot do with a FD.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: CliveG on September 02, 2013, 08:14:48 pm
XS1100 was bought off John Baker by Paul Ward, owner of StartLine. He has a whole range of 2 stroke Yamaha`s from FS1 and up. Even has a few racing Yamaha`s, one which is a 125 twin he bought from Japan, another has a Spondon frame. There more hidden in the back, waiting to be rebuilt.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 02, 2013, 08:30:04 pm
I would love o see these Yamahas. :drif:

I would have like to point out how amazingly deep Yamaha's racing heritage runs, but all bikers know this already. ;D
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: subie on September 02, 2013, 08:36:33 pm
Toe ek daai pyp sien het ek dadelik geweet dis n bassani. Nooit self n XS1100 gery nie maar die ouens het hulle pragtog ge-customise met so n n scoop stukkie fairing net aan die onderkant van die engine voor. Midnight special (swart en goud ) was ook baie mooi. Ek verbeel my seker ,maar lyk of die bike se rake angle bietjie uit gestretch is op die foto. Weet nie hoekom maar 2de gear het gepla op party van die bikes.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 02, 2013, 08:53:33 pm
Toe ek daai pyp sien het ek dadelik geweet dis n bassani. Nooit self n XS1100 gery nie maar die ouens het hulle pragtog ge-customise met so n n scoop stukkie fairing net aan die onderkant van die engine voor. Midnight special (swart en goud ) was ook baie mooi. Ek verbeel my seker ,maar lyk of die bike se rake angle bietjie uit gestretch is op die foto. Weet nie hoekom maar 2de gear het gepla op party van die bikes.

Sommige van die XS1100 het 2de rat probleme gegee, nooit duidelikheid gekry hoekom nie, Yamaha spesialis het my vertel dat as jy nie van 1ste na 2de[oor neutraal] reg oorskakel nie, kon die rat uitspring. n Paar "sloppy" changes en die dogs is afgerond, wat veroorsaak dat die rat glad nie meer inskakel nie.
n Pel van my het sy XS vir jare van 1ste na 3rde gery, so baie wringkrag gehad daai enjins.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Wayne on September 02, 2013, 09:13:15 pm
Aw that XS1100  :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: swart skaap on September 02, 2013, 11:40:59 pm
Very nice , I am sure 2SD will make a mess in his trousers  >:D
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Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: BatmanGS on September 03, 2013, 06:22:55 am
Yes the days of SuperBike racing, was indeed great racing in SA.

The names Like Rod Gray, Dave and Keith Woolie, Crawford, Petersen Brothers, Richard Borain,,Jamie Thomas come to mind and the racing was really close on production machines.

The Honda CBX Six's, Kawasaki Z1000, Kawasaki JR, Suzuki GSX, Katana, Honda CBR's + CB900F 

The Track Car racing was also just as excieting with the Ford's and BMW's of Vander Merwe, Mortmier, Tony Viana, Scheckter.

SAdly motorsport in SA will never return to that amount of passion and committment of this golden era 1970's, 80's + 90's again.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 03, 2013, 08:13:27 am
 I started racing on an XS1100 and I had no handling quircks. I sourced a chain drive conv. swing arm and sprocket housing from Ophie Howard, but sadly never used it as the XS died a horrible death b.m.o. breaking a conrod at the end of the back straight of Klillarney...  :'(

@2SD...yes...2nd gear...mine was stuffed. I recall even racing at Aldo Scribante with no 2nd gear...basically only compromised your start  :biggrin: ( talk about a shoe-string budget!).

@ CliveG....ja....Paul Ward is starting a little Yammie museum there!

The 2 best bikes I've ever owned....both Yammies....IT175 J(?) and RD350LC YPVS....sadly none of them at Startline otherwise I'd need a change of undies...well, almost did after seeing RGray's scoot.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: TheBear on September 03, 2013, 07:04:00 pm
Not only him. Will always be my first love  :drif:

Same here.  Love affair started with a RD50 many years ago.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 04, 2013, 07:18:53 am
Then yesterday I receive this pic!!!

ps...kameel-toon and all... >:D
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 04, 2013, 07:23:40 am
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: subie on September 04, 2013, 07:26:05 am
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:

Kyk weer. Daai is die 750 triple

Oops! Dink jy praat seker van die XS1100. Dink dit was n ombouing. Het self ook nooit een met ketting gesien nie
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: TheBear on September 04, 2013, 08:49:11 am
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:

No.  Never did get them with a chaindrive.  It was an aftermarket conversion, useuallhy on race bikes so they could fiddle with gear ratios.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 04, 2013, 09:06:30 am
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:

Nee, Chris.....the manne here in Sleepy Hollow did that conversion. Amazing how simple it was. Maybe I'll take a ride to Startline again and sneak some pics of it...
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 04, 2013, 06:12:13 pm
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:

Nee, Chris.....the manne here in Sleepy Hollow did that conversion. Amazing how simple it was. Maybe I'll take a ride to Startline again and sneak some pics of it...
Would love to see the part where they fitted the frontsprocket where the FD used to
come out.
Think it could work on my 1200? ;)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Welsh on September 04, 2013, 06:35:16 pm
And there I learn something again.

Never knew one could get the 1.1 in a chaindrive.
Loved them. :thumleft:

Only a racing conversion Chrisl  8)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Welsh on September 04, 2013, 06:37:05 pm
I started racing on an XS1100 and I had no handling quircks. I sourced a chain drive conv. swing arm and sprocket housing from Ophie Howard, but sadly never used it as the XS died a horrible death b.m.o. breaking a conrod at the end of the back straight of Klillarney...  :'(

@2SD...yes...2nd gear...mine was stuffed. I recall even racing at Aldo Scribante with no 2nd gear...basically only compromised your start  :biggrin: ( talk about a shoe-string budget!).

@ CliveG....ja....Paul Ward is starting a little Yammie museum there!

The 2 best bikes I've ever owned....both Yammies....IT175 J(?) and RD350LC YPVS....sadly none of them at Startline otherwise I'd need a change of undies...well, almost did after seeing RGray's scoot.

Eiiiisssh, you must have done some suspension work mine was a wallowing beast in stock form ::) ::)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Kawasefi on September 04, 2013, 06:43:26 pm
Awesome!  :drif:

I love my fugly but it all started with a DT50...
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2013, 07:59:44 pm
Chris, I owned a Yamaha XS1100 with chain drive. It was a Borg Warner kit that was available for the XS, initiated by Rod Gray's Yamaha race team.
The original 90degree bevel gear housing was simply replaced by a bearing housing containing a spline shaft to fit over the output shaft, with coarse splines on the outside to slide a sprocket over. The kit also included a square tubing swingarm as well.

Sjoe, maar Yammie ryers se broeke is hoog opgetrek! :imaposer:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Dux on September 05, 2013, 07:29:09 am
Some more nostalgia , including a very neat yellow Yamaha

 http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle-world-rolling-concours-bike-show/?src=related&con=outbrain&obref=obinsite (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle-world-rolling-concours-bike-show/?src=related&con=outbrain&obref=obinsite)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: blazes on September 05, 2013, 07:42:39 am
I owned a 1981 Yammie XS1100Special, I still miss that bike, always loved a Yammie.  :thumleft:

I had an XS1100 when I arrived here in 81, handling, what handling that was a peeeeeeg  >:(   

 I agree --- one just comes to the conclusion that the guys who raced those bikes ---Had Talent -- lots of it  ;)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: landieman on September 05, 2013, 07:43:24 am
still get goosebumps every time i see a RD or RZ :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 05, 2013, 07:59:34 am
I started racing on an XS1100 and I had no handling quircks. I sourced a chain drive conv. swing arm and sprocket housing from Ophie Howard, but sadly never used it as the XS died a horrible death b.m.o. breaking a conrod at the end of the back straight of Klillarney...  :'(

@2SD...yes...2nd gear...mine was stuffed. I recall even racing at Aldo Scribante with no 2nd gear...basically only compromised your start  :biggrin: ( talk about a shoe-string budget!).

@ CliveG....ja....Paul Ward is starting a little Yammie museum there!

The 2 best bikes I've ever owned....both Yammies....IT175 J(?) and RD350LC YPVS....sadly none of them at Startline otherwise I'd need a change of undies...well, almost did after seeing RGray's scoot.

Eiiiisssh, you must have done some suspension work mine was a wallowing beast in stock form ::) ::)

I cannot recall doing anything major at all...that thing was stable!
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 05, 2013, 08:04:06 am
still get goosebumps every time i see a RD or RZ :drif:

YIP!!!! Breakfast runs in CT in 1984...OMF...on the "coast rd" ( Bakoven - Llandudno )....we used to play with all the Katana's , CB1100RC's etc....but it was really suicidal...just stupid!
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 05, 2013, 08:12:25 am
@ Welsh.....I had one of the oldest ones with " XS eleven" written in cursive script on the side-cover badging...they later got facelifted and " 1.1 " was on the badging, and they had black motors.....I have NO idea, though, if there were any geometry tweaks....probably NOT.

We all found it strange, though, that when BP Yamamha SA built up THAT bike for Rod Gray, that they used the XS Eleven Special with it's mega laid back rake angle etc etc.....but they obv. knew something we didn't because it WORKED!
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Dux on September 05, 2013, 08:16:40 am
still get goosebumps every time i see a RD or RZ :drif:

YIP!!!! Breakfast runs in CT in 1984...OMF...on the "coast rd" ( Bakoven - Llandudno )....we used to play with all the Katana's , CB1100RC's etc....but it was really suicidal...just stupid!

And on Chappies leave the wallowing dinosaurs far behind , then we were young  , dum and fulla cum
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Tiger8 on September 05, 2013, 12:12:54 pm
still get goosebumps every time i see a RD or RZ :drif:

YIP!!!! Breakfast runs in CT in 1984...OMF...on the "coast rd" ( Bakoven - Llandudno )....we used to play with all the Katana's , CB1100RC's etc....but it was really suicidal...just stupid!

And on Chappies leave the wallowing dinosaurs far behind , then we were young  , dum and fulla cum

Like you say  :thumleft:
My special had plenty grunt, but don't try and do any fast cornering, that Cowley 4-1 Exhaust I had on it was scraped through at the collector and pinch bolt, she was VERY low. I Loved her!

That said, I rode a XS Special like mine the other day, belonged to a mate of mine............she felt like a dinosaur in all ways but the power, but still enjoyed the ride. Will I ever own another if the oportunity arises? Maybe, but I think it best to leave the memories where they belong, in the past, where they can remain bright and shiny, and not spoiled with reality  ;)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: KTM11 on September 05, 2013, 03:33:19 pm
Thanks for posting EssBee I hadn't seen photos of my dads old race bike in a while.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: TREVALLY on September 05, 2013, 07:29:04 pm
I am sure many remember Johan Boshoff on the mighty TZ750. saw him race it at Roy Hesketh. Checked the net the other day to see if there were any available ............... Fully restored version in the states +- R 700 000.00
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: TheBear on September 05, 2013, 07:42:26 pm
I am sure many remember Johan Boshoff on the mighty TZ750. saw him race it at Roy Hesketh. Checked the net the other day to see if there were any available ............... Fully restored version in the states +- R 700 000.00

I remember them.  OW31 was their race model designation if memory serves.  Saw Johan Boshof on his a few times on Kyalami.  I was there the day his life was claimed by the sport he loved.  1977 I think.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: landieman on September 05, 2013, 08:02:57 pm
still get goosebumps every time i see a RD or RZ :drif:

YIP!!!! Breakfast runs in CT in 1984...OMF...on the "coast rd" ( Bakoven - Llandudno )....we used to play with all the Katana's , CB1100RC's etc....but it was really suicidal...just stupid!

And on Chappies leave the wallowing dinosaurs far behind , then we were young  , dum and fulla cum
some of us still are ;)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 05, 2013, 08:24:23 pm
Thanks for posting EssBee I hadn't seen photos of my dads old race bike in a while.  :thumleft:


 ??? ???, you wanna tell us something?? :thumleft:

Who is you?
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Hondsekierie on September 05, 2013, 09:01:03 pm
Thanks for posting EssBee I hadn't seen photos of my dads old race bike in a while.  :thumleft:


 ??? ???, you wanna tell us something?? :thumleft:

Who is you?

Rod Gray is his dad :thumleft:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: zacapa on September 05, 2013, 09:23:59 pm
Highjack on:
Chapmans Peak ride was a 3 times a week thing back in '95. Had to destress after hectic work session earlier in the day on my fastest Beemer R80 to keep my head sane.
Stripped down to bare essentials with Koni rearshocks with soft beemer springs in them it did good in riding out the fast sweeps from Bakoven to the top of Suikerbossie.
Chapmans was a dream come true for the banana boy that had arrived in CT the year before. After some corner carving which the low powered bike excelled at, the usual thing was to find a cool spot overlooking H/Bay to take in the grand scenery before sunset and be at peace with all.
Highjack off.

I saw the bike at the natal Classic Bike club a while ago. That is one impressive piece of machinery. Remember it well from watching the races on telly, Rod Gray was a serious speed merchant consultant back in the day.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 05, 2013, 09:56:17 pm
Thanks for posting EssBee I hadn't seen photos of my dads old race bike in a while.  :thumleft:


 ??? ???, you wanna tell us something?? :thumleft:

Who is you?

Rod Gray is his dad :thumleft:

Very, very fast Dad. :ricky:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: subie on September 06, 2013, 04:46:52 am
Wow! Rod Gray een van die groot name van gister  :thumleft:
Where is he today ? Pic?
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: KTM11 on September 06, 2013, 07:01:48 am
Wow! Rod Gray een van die groot name van gister  :thumleft:
Where is he today ? Pic?

My dad runs the workshop at Alfie Cox KTM

And today........he is at the Alfie Cox Dual sport festival, so instead of working he is riding his KTM 690 around the midlands.  :ricky:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 06, 2013, 07:04:05 am
Wow! Rod Gray een van die groot name van gister  :thumleft:
Where is he today ? Pic?

My dad runs the workshop at Alfie Cox KTM

And today........he is at the Alfie Cox Dual sport festival, so instead of working he is riding his KTM 690 around the midlands.  :ricky:

At AC, yes! And what a lekka guy he is...oh...and don't try outride him... :deal:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 06, 2013, 07:06:26 am
@ Zacapa...yes...speed sessions on the Bakoven rd....Jeepers, I remember when I still worked on the Railways in Salt River...on the odd occasion going to work by bike, my 350 YPVS, going home to PLumstead the long way round via Hout Bay of course >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 06, 2013, 07:10:54 am
....have posted this before a long time ago...
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: landieman on September 06, 2013, 07:33:52 am
....have posted this before a long time ago...
:thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Dux on September 06, 2013, 08:02:19 am
....have posted this before a long time ago...

The angle grinders of old , lean at any angle they would start grinding , so we shortened the pegs which was fine for a short while until bravery took over and we started grinding the shortened pegs , basically repeat and repeat .........

Then we start thinking that we are so fast that we need to start getting out on the track  - get out there and you realise that you are anything but , my first track day one of the instructors came around the outside of me through one of the corners and waved at me  :-[ :-[ , so stupidity took over and I came back for more and more until the bug bit full time and I entered my first race , nerve's were so shot I didn't sleep the night before , for an hour before the first heat it was a case of chain smoking / drinking coke and running to the toilet . Then we are told to go and wait in pit lane to be ready to go out on the track , the butterflies are on steroids and I remember thinking that I was a twatwaffle to even think of doing this and maybe now is a good time to withdraw , but before the thought can sink in they flag us out and all the nerves disappear , just focus , focus , focus .....
2 warm up laps , line up on the grid , green light and away we go , I have never had 12 laps go by so quickly , what a rave , adrenaline rush of note , that was me hook , line and sinker , lets enter for the next race meeting right now before sanity sets in .

Simon I am sure you can relate
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 08, 2013, 06:22:11 pm
Seriously smaak that XS sparking it's way through that corner!!!!!! Check those other bike skollies lurking in the background..... :imaposer:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on September 08, 2013, 08:54:19 pm
I have a picture of Rod Gray at Schribante in PE, must be about 1984 or so where he's on a Z1000R that had a dual spark head ...  :)
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Mr Zog on September 08, 2013, 09:53:33 pm
I remember worshipping the likes of Rod Gray, Dave Petersen, Keith Petersen (died at Kyalami - RIP), Dave Hiscock, Wayne Heaseman, and many others. The old Delmas Chickens racing team... what a kak green colour they had  :ricky:

I remember sleeping in my pup-tent an Kyalami after riding there on my 50. The parties behind the old concrete grandstands... that went on ALL NIGHT!

Sitting down at the grandstand at the bottom of the main straight (Marlboro Corner?) and being able to see virtually the entire cuircuit (old track). Watching the guys come through the old Wesbank (other direction from now), nailing it down the hill, not even slacking off for the kink, then outta sight for a second or three, then appear under the old bridge, flying at insane speeds before hitting the anchors for the right hander at the end of the straight.

The Honda CB1100R, the Katana, the Ducati's... shit. Good times.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 09, 2013, 09:10:12 am
Seriously smaak that XS sparking it's way through that corner!!!!!! Check those other bike skollies lurking in the background..... :imaposer:


 :imaposer: You couldn't be more accurate with that perception!!! That dude was a serious skollie......unlike ME, the PERFECT well-rounded gentleman....pffffft... ::) ::) ::)

ps...HE went to Oude Molen.. :pot:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 09, 2013, 09:14:53 am
@ Dux....jeez....the week before a race-meet...I'd wake up on say Wednesday morning and feel my stomach knotting up!

But...talk about shoe-string budget! Try living on cheese sandwhiches for a week before payday because you've got NO money left after the last race meet and you had to buy fuel, brake-pads etc etc. At prize-giving, sitting waiting for your prize money to you can at least buy a beer or ten at the bar.... ::) Character building....I suppose.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Dux on September 09, 2013, 09:22:22 am
Character building indeed , prize money what was that .
I paid for the racing from after hours work I did , at that stage I was doing at night what I do full time now , my philosophy was that racing wouldn't (a) put me in debt , (b) wouldn't come out of salary , worked well for me until the results started coming in then it didn't matter where the funds came from and if I went hungry well then that was part of the "race diet " anyway so it was tolerated .
When I stopped racing and started doing enduro's a few months later the enduro guys would complain about the cost of racing and then keep quiet when I would relate the cost of circuit racing to them  ;D ;D , the enduro side was just sooooo much cheaper .
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 09, 2013, 09:30:49 am
I have a picture of Rod Gray at Schribante in PE, must be about 1984 or so where he's on a Z1000R that had a dual spark head ...  :)

Pleeeez dig out that pic! Would love to see it. I remember RG falling a shit shot at Scribante, on that last cnr before the main straight...on his GSXR750. I was talking to him about 3 years ago at ACox and he clearly remembered that incident....said it cost him the SA title.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: The Rock on September 09, 2013, 09:41:49 am
some nice old (2 stroke) Yammies i saw at Killarney on saturday

just look at that sweet RZ500!!!  :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on September 09, 2013, 09:45:10 am
AAHHHHH yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing! That #42 .....heee hahh! Best bike ever!
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: subie on September 09, 2013, 12:56:03 pm
Scribante !! Baie dronk geraak daar in die son op die walletjie en dan die "drag" terug PE toe met al ons wannabee racers lekker "opgefire" vir die kort run :ricky:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on September 09, 2013, 06:55:18 pm
I have a picture of Rod Gray at Schribante in PE, must be about 1984 or so where he's on a Z1000R that had a dual spark head ...  :)

Pleeeez dig out that pic! Would love to see it. I remember RG falling a shit shot at Scribante, on that last cnr before the main straight...on his GSXR750. I was talking to him about 3 years ago at ACox and he clearly remembered that incident....said it cost him the SA title.

Sure will when i'm in SA in Oct i hope , but please remind me if i do not get back to you on this by Nov, sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on November 02, 2013, 04:22:09 pm
I have a picture of Rod Gray at Schribante in PE, must be about 1984 or so where he's on a Z1000R that had a dual spark head ...  :)

Pleeeez dig out that pic! Would love to see it. I remember RG falling a shit shot at Scribante, on that last cnr before the main straight...on his GSXR750. I was talking to him about 3 years ago at ACox and he clearly remembered that incident....said it cost him the SA title.

Here it is EssBee ...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img69/8066/b0ln.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/i/1xb0lnj)
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Post by: Saxon on November 02, 2013, 05:27:50 pm
My old girl a Yamaha XJ 750 with a Cowley 4 into 1. Can you believe it Cowley are still around!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww326/RaymondCloete/images_zps77f01918.jpg) (http://s732.photobucket.com/user/RaymondCloete/media/images_zps77f01918.jpg.html)

http://www.cowleyexh.co.za/gallery/index.php (http://www.cowleyexh.co.za/gallery/index.php)
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Post by: EssBee on November 04, 2013, 08:14:03 am
@ Ian...sheez, thanks!!!!! :thumleft: Howz the official in the pit-lane with an "enchie" in his "bek"....not top mention Rods' 'kwaai' sunglasses!!!!!

Note - the home-made knee-scrapers!!! Yip...they weren't even invented yet...we used to use all sorts of kak taped, sewn, glued, plakked onto our leathers.
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Post by: Sabre on November 04, 2013, 08:24:20 pm
I am sure many remember Johan Boshoff on the mighty TZ750. saw him race it at Roy Hesketh. Checked the net the other day to see if there were any available ............... Fully restored version in the states +- R 700 000.00
I'm busy reading the book "The Harley in the barn" by Tom Cotter. There is a story in it of a guy that, in 1979, had to make a quick investment to reduce his payable tax. He bought 4 brand new TZ750s, but kept them crated

The guy that told the story managed to find them all after the buyer passed away. Some have been assembled. He bought them for something like US$2000 a piece

Says that the prices of the TZs sky rocketed soon after
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 04, 2013, 08:29:20 pm
Yamaha TZ750's were legend stuff all over the world, but especially so in the States, where King Kenny was a devoted Yamaha man, and TZ750's won the big Daytona races for 10 years running.
Over the counter GP race bikes.  :eek7: :eek7:  another piece of Yamaha magic.
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Post by: Dux on November 04, 2013, 08:44:29 pm
TZ750 , now if I could find one of those I would definitely go back to racing in classics  :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Post by: landieman on November 05, 2013, 06:30:32 am
love at first sight
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 05, 2013, 06:47:31 am
That TZ seems to be roadworthy!?

Read an article in a US bike mag around 1978 of a guy that toured America on a roadlegal TZ700/750.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 05, 2013, 06:50:27 am
If you're interested, Google Don Emde's 1972 Yamaha aircooled 350 Daytona winner, where he won the 200mile race against 4stroke 750 opponents.

It is all these facts put together that makes this such a magic manufacturer.
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Post by: Roxtar on November 05, 2013, 02:43:15 pm
I grew up on my dad's XS1100, in fact I now own it since he passed away a few years ago. He bought it new in '78........ I can remember often starting it in the garage while he was at work when I was between 5-8 years old........ALWAYS scared the shit outta me as it was LOUD! ;D
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Post by: StevedW on November 05, 2013, 08:55:00 pm
Here's mine .... 1977 and about as original as you'll find
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Post by: Dux on November 05, 2013, 09:04:47 pm
Here's mine .... 1977 and about as original as you'll find

That is really cool :thumleft:
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 05, 2013, 09:08:05 pm
Great bike Steve, that is going to become a real collector's item, being the ultimate development of Yamaha's aircooled 2stroke twin series.

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Post by: fixit on November 05, 2013, 09:29:51 pm
What a cool thread  :thumleft:

My biking life also started out on a RZ50. If i think back I can still remember the feeling of riding that bike like it was yesterday. We used to race on the go cart track in E.L after school. Many an incident took place where skin was lost an pride hurt.

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Post by: Squeakyboots on November 06, 2013, 07:50:17 am
Fixit: I also remember when you wrote off your MBX Between Cocobana bend and Potters Pass. Loved my RZ as well. I was once clocked at 125km/h along Settlers when Gary Fibiger pulled up next to me in his dad's kombi. Good old days.
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Post by: The Rock on November 06, 2013, 12:58:42 pm
this one is on gumtree for R25k

"Engine totally rebuilt with new parts. Total renovation of the rest. Powder coated frame; respray; Goodridge reeds; Chromed Gibson race pipes; New tyres and battery; New clutch; brakes rebuilt with new parts. Must find room in the garage, hence the price. "

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjY5WDEwMDA=/z/HXcAAOxyLN9SedDt/$(KGrHqRHJCYFJYoF)+p-BSedDtGj9Q~~48_20.JPG)

http://www.gumtree.co.za/cp-motorcycles-scooters-in-caledon/rd350lc-540369979 (http://www.gumtree.co.za/cp-motorcycles-scooters-in-caledon/rd350lc-540369979)

 :drif:
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: fixit on November 06, 2013, 10:26:39 pm
Fixit: I also remember when you wrote off your MBX Between Cocobana bend and Potters Pass. Loved my RZ as well. I was once clocked at 125km/h along Settlers when Gary Fibiger pulled up next to me in his dad's kombi. Good old days.

Yip, loved that bike too, but didn't have the soul of the RZ.
That RZ of yours really had some hoodoo in it. Man, it was quick!

Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: EssBee on June 29, 2014, 12:12:33 pm
Okay...need to revive this fret... >:D

Was at Startline yesterday morning so thought I'd share these wiff my fellow dawgs....
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Post by: EssBee on June 29, 2014, 12:14:50 pm
Lekka, hey.

Oh wait  :biggrin: there's more...the place looks more like a Yamaha museum! Awesome.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: whitedelight on June 29, 2014, 03:51:38 pm
My old girl a Yamaha XJ 750 with a Cowley 4 into 1. Can you believe it Cowley are still around!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww326/RaymondCloete/images_zps77f01918.jpg) (http://s732.photobucket.com/user/RaymondCloete/media/images_zps77f01918.jpg.html)

http://www.cowleyexh.co.za/gallery/index.php (http://www.cowleyexh.co.za/gallery/index.php)

Yep my boet had the same bike,same colour. They also used his bike to develop the bikini fairing. He too ran a Cowley exhaust.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies
Post by: Tito on June 29, 2014, 11:36:17 pm
I have a picture of Rod Gray at Schribante in PE, must be about 1984 or so where he's on a Z1000R that had a dual spark head ...  :)

Pleeeez dig out that pic! Would love to see it. I remember RG falling a shit shot at Scribante, on that last cnr before the main straight...on his GSXR750. I was talking to him about 3 years ago at ACox and he clearly remembered that incident....said it cost him the SA title.

Here it is EssBee ...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img69/8066/b0ln.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/i/1xb0lnj)


Great photo ...brings back a lot of memories for me....I had the luck to get a job as race mechanic for Kawasaki in 83 the Demas Chicken Days .....
We had two Genuine Muzzy built Lawson Replicas that were used in Formula One , they had 8 plug heads...( you can see the back of one in the photo of me in pit 1 at Kyalami ) ...The photo of Rod is on a standard Production Bike 1000 R with  Flickers and lights...The guy with the clipboard was our team manager Steve .....
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Post by: EssBee on June 30, 2014, 07:45:03 am
@ Tito....was that AFTER the Joe van Altena ( spell?) era.....a cycling mate of mine in JHB was involved with his pit-crew...
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Post by: Winston on June 30, 2014, 08:24:38 am
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Post by: ratrap on June 30, 2014, 04:35:04 pm
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Post by: Dux on June 30, 2014, 04:37:39 pm
Do you know what happened to those Muzzy bike ?
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Post by: Tito on June 30, 2014, 07:36:56 pm
Do you know what happened to those Muzzy bike ?


I have no idea now,  but a couple of year after this someone had one converted to road use..
Interesting to note that Muzzy pulled the wool over Kawasaki SA 's eyes and sent us two supposed hot F1 Lawson Replicas at a doooobus price ,they had 8 plug heads and a welded crank with A KX 80 flywheel ignition system ,without a battery, fancy wheels,forks, yokes,brakes and swinging arm, but a bog standard dead slow motor that was very difficult to get to make Horsepower...
They were very short lived and Ace Tuner Syd Stacy ended up using a bimota framed 1100 motor rather that was rapid and handled well right from the first ride.
@EssBee yes JVA was racing the at the exact same time also in F1 on a Nico Baker framed Kawa 1100, strangely enough I worked for Joe for a few years from 83 onwards ....

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Post by: Dux on June 30, 2014, 08:56:57 pm
Shafting happens at all levels , but still never nice to see , those bikes were supposed to be pushing out 145hp on the rear wheel , Lang Hindle from Hindle exhausts in Canada has one that he raced round about that time , and he still has that same bike , from a test review of that bike it is an absolute rocket .
Just out of curiosity , CB that Freddie Spencer raced in the States had a chromoly frame with shitty welding where visible to look like a stock frame .
Kawasaki had a few interesting things from time to time though , I bought a GPz1100 and never thought anything of it until I rode another identical bike and noticed a few differences , a stock GPz would do 85kmh in first , mine did 135kmh , mine had a ported head ,different cams and the steering head had about a degree less rake and the triple clamps were different .
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Post by: Tito on June 30, 2014, 10:23:26 pm
Racing in this country has been over the years not only a battle of riders but also mechanics and  tuners....
The amazingly original ways to make horsepower and get a bike to handle were quite facinating to see first hand, as I would often have to work Sundays striping the opositions bike or our bikes after protests...
Very possible the Kawa you had might have been an ex "production" race bike..
The GPZ 550 N above came with a Close Ratio Gearbox as standard in an attempt to beat the Ducati Pantah's, and many of Kawasaki's parts were moved around between bikes to gain advantage...
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Post by: Tito on June 30, 2014, 10:31:25 pm
Here's a photo relevent to the thread , me on my Yamaha 350 YR5, first or second race in the UK...Still with Novice Orange jacket on...
Had a RD400 after that...

Oh and a pic of JVA as well...
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Post by: Buddy on June 30, 2014, 10:44:03 pm
Tito, were you at JVA when Paddy Sewell was there? Paddy and I used to ride enduro's together
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Post by: StuartC on June 30, 2014, 11:21:53 pm
I'm pretty convinced that the TA 125 on the previous page was the bike that belonged to Ace Motors that I raced in 81,, I have been looking for that bike for 15 years,, will be at that shop very soon
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Post by: Grolls on July 01, 2014, 01:06:33 am
Here is mine  :thumleft:
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Post by: Tito on July 01, 2014, 07:27:20 am
Tito, were you at JVA when Paddy Sewell was there? Paddy and I used to ride enduro's together


Yeah Buddy ....myself and Paddy ( Mike Sewell ) are still big mates to this day, he lives in PE now...
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Post by: Tito on July 01, 2014, 07:30:03 am
Here is mine  :thumleft:


That's Gonner clean up nice...Cool Bike..
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Post by: Buddy on July 01, 2014, 09:38:09 pm
"Yeah Buddy ....myself and Paddy ( Mike Sewell ) are still big mates to this day, he lives in PE now..."

Does he still own the Tiger Wheel franchise in PE? I must really pop in and see him next time I go that way.
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Post by: ratrap on July 02, 2014, 04:37:35 pm
"Yeah Buddy ....myself and Paddy ( Mike Sewell ) are still big mates to this day, he lives in PE now..."

Does he still own the Tiger Wheel franchise in PE? I must really pop in and see him next time I go that way.

More threats to visit people.....................
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Post by: CliveG on July 02, 2014, 05:42:21 pm
StuartC, If I remember right, that TA125, Paul Ward bought from Japan. The TZ125 was his from new.
Title: Re: Nostalgic old Yammies - pics added - frett revived
Post by: Tito on July 02, 2014, 05:51:21 pm
"Yeah Buddy ....myself and Paddy ( Mike Sewell ) are still big mates to this day, he lives in PE now..."

Does he still own the Tiger Wheel franchise in PE? I must really pop in and see him next time I go that way.


Mike works for Continental now.....I will PM you his Cell number....
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Post by: Buddy on July 03, 2014, 10:53:34 am
Thanks Tito.

Gavin, that's low, I guess I'll have to stand at the top of Suikerbossie and shout until you hear me to let me know where you live  :)