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General => General Bike Related Banter => Bike related member feedback => Topic started by: KiLRoy on September 14, 2013, 07:58:12 am

Title: Technology and gadgets
Post by: KiLRoy on September 14, 2013, 07:58:12 am
What level of tech do you expect on your bike?
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 14, 2013, 08:05:15 am
You accept what the manufacturers give you.

But electronic ignition is good. Very good.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: RobC on September 14, 2013, 08:09:07 am
There is something therapeutic in being able to bring an ailing machine back to life without resorting to solid state diagnostic tools. :sip:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: jaybiker on September 17, 2013, 04:28:27 pm
I always joke that I'm a very technically minded person, up to a point.
That point being about 1975!
My first reaction to the poll was "Old school, definitely old school. Technology just means something else to go wrong, that I can't fix in the bush with a basic tool kit and a strong dose of obscenities."
But seriously I'm not that bad, and I voted for option 2. I can see the merit in electronic ignition and EFI. Power modes and traction control I don't need 'cos I don't have, nor am I ever likely to have 120+KW. Similarly, electronic steering and suspension damping are wasted at my riding skill level. ABS, I think I'm ambivelent about. I'll have to look it up and see.....
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Welsh on September 17, 2013, 04:37:59 pm
I lost all love for technology last time I had the issue bleeding the canbus oil.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Malibu on September 17, 2013, 04:39:59 pm
Ya, 'cos you should do what you are good at, not what you suck at! 

:peepwall:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Welsh on September 17, 2013, 04:48:33 pm
Ya, 'cos you should do what you are good at, not what you suck at! 

:peepwall:
ya ya, nice fishing hook, me not biting......
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: da PEEG on September 17, 2013, 04:52:00 pm
daFact that I ride da Peeg answers that question - right ?  :snorting:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Malibu on September 17, 2013, 04:52:57 pm
Ya, 'cos you should do what you are good at, not what you suck at! 

:peepwall:
ya ya, nice fishing hook, me not biting......

:P
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: BikerJan on September 17, 2013, 05:10:14 pm
I am unfortunately a gadget boy I think. I enjoy new technology in cars, bikes and airplanes.

I need all the help I can get to keep the rubber side on the correct side.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on September 26, 2013, 10:32:31 pm
GPS on the Handle bars music in the ears. What more could you possably want.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Captain Zef on September 26, 2013, 10:49:35 pm
Would love to have the electronic cruise control on my bike.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Bundu on September 27, 2013, 12:37:25 am
will be interesting to see the results, as technological improvements (gadgets called by some) are the future :sip:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Lord Knormoer on September 29, 2013, 08:11:51 am
I have everything imaginable on the bike and use it. ABS, traction control, GPS, intercom, cruise control, GoPro (x2) and much more.

I could not fix the bike even if it was a 20 year old thumper and would not try. Using technology makes for a more pleasant experience which I embrace.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: lecap on October 02, 2013, 08:03:21 am
Ride DR650SE, voted "old school".

Electronic ignition does qualify as old school these days does it ???

Need no flippin' blinking displays that would give a passing epileptic a fit.
The bike does not even have a rev counter It runs just fine without some gadget counting them ??? Knoppetjies: One for the electric starter which hopefully does not give me detention in the "old school", one for the high beam and one for flickers. Hooter. Kill switch. That does it for me.

Complexity adds failure modes :lol8:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: RobC on October 02, 2013, 08:45:53 am
Ride DR650SE, voted "old school".

Electronic ignition does qualify as old school these days does it ???

Need no flippin' blinking displays that would give a passing epileptic a fit.
The bike does not even have a rev counter It runs just fine without some gadget counting them ??? Knoppetjies: One for the electric starter which hopefully does not give me detention in the "old school", one for the high beam and one for flickers. Hooter. Kill switch. That does it for me.

Complexity adds failure modes :lol8:
I concur... :ricky:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Shutter_Eye on December 25, 2013, 05:52:30 pm
If it's reliable, functional and rugged, cool. But gadgets can become very silly.
They sneak up on you and before you know it your bike has been parasitised by a million different stick-on jobbies.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Damaraland on December 27, 2013, 12:25:46 pm
You accept what the manufacturers give you.

But electronic ignition is good. Very good.

This is my only non-negotiable. My last bike without electronic ignition was a yamaha yz490 2 stroke, that monster cured me of any lingering fondness for kick-starting.  ABS or TC I do not care for, cruise control I would like.


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Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Operator on December 27, 2013, 04:50:53 pm
Fuel injection is nice and came a looong way since its introduction onto motorbikes.......

But I must say that a thumper with a performance pipe and carburettor which is properly tuned, jetted and dyno'ed by someone
like Wrench (Superbike Solutions) is something very, very special.............old school tech at it absolutely best !!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Off-Road-Adventures on December 27, 2013, 06:20:37 pm
When I still had my R1200GS, I went for a ride with a bunch of other guys with the same bikes. Out of the 8 bikes, after coffee, before the ride started, two would not start, no lights would come on. Under warranty, had to phone BMW and wait............

Then on a trip to Lesotho, one of the R1200GS's just stopped. WHAT a business it was. Left the bike in the middle of no-where, went to Bloem two up, borrowed a bakkie, went and fetched the thing. Ruined the trip.

I don't believe that all the electronics are necessary, when the bike stops, you walk.



Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Beebop on December 27, 2013, 07:24:59 pm
Regardless of the old school/ new school debate, you still have to have some technical knowhow if
you want to look into an issue yourself. That makes the lack of technology a mute point for a lot
of riders today. Yes electronics may open up a new can of beans, but the electronics today is just as
reliable as the mechanics of 20 years ago, so what are we actually comparing ? If you perform proper
maintenance , the you already a step ahead in terms of likely failure.
Lets look at the 1150GS. Apart from the HES, which can be inspected, and a spare kept, the most
common failures are FD big bearing or seal, input splines and drive shafts. All of these are mechanical.
The electronic bits are hardly ever at fault.
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: Bundu on December 27, 2013, 07:45:05 pm
Regardless of the old school/ new school debate, you still have to have some technical knowhow if
you want to look into an issue yourself. That makes the lack of technology a mute point for a lot
of riders today. Yes electronics may open up a new can of beans, but the electronics today is just as
reliable as the mechanics of 20 years ago, so what are we actually comparing ? If you perform proper
maintenance , the you already a step ahead in terms of likely failure.
Lets look at the 1150GS. Apart from the HES, which can be inspected, and a spare kept, the most
common failures are FD big bearing or seal, input splines and drive shafts. All of these are mechanical.
The electronic bits are hardly ever at fault.


aaaah, some sanity!  :thumleft:

I've often wondered, if there was a bike/car manufacturer that decided to stay old school, would they be in business?
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: jaybiker on December 27, 2013, 08:01:44 pm
Yeah, it's true that even the most reactionary among us (that's me!) do eventually learn to adapt to some extent, although it may take a while. Nowadays even if the choice were available I wouldn't chose a bike with old style points and coil ignition over electronics, and I probably wouldn't go for a carburetted bike either.
A few years ago I would have dismissed a R1150gs as a mass of unfathomable technology, but now of course I own one, and I'm glad that of it's simple 'old fashioned' design that I can understand and deal with (mostly).
Right now, my main fear is mechanical. That the FD bearing will let me down out on the road somewhere, which has recently happened to a friend. My mileage is approximately the same as his, but there's no sign on my bike. That's why though, that I'm checking it before each and every little ride, so that I can catch it timeously, and have a relatively simple single bearing replacement.

I somehow think though that my time will run out before I yearn for a ride by wire throttle!
Title: Re: Technology and gadgets
Post by: poenerhoes on December 25, 2014, 07:29:51 pm
Regardless of the old school/ new school debate, you still have to have some technical knowhow if
you want to look into an issue yourself. That makes the lack of technology a mute point for a lot
of riders today. Yes electronics may open up a new can of beans, but the electronics today is just as
reliable as the mechanics of 20 years ago, so what are we actually comparing ? If you perform proper
maintenance , the you already a step ahead in terms of likely failure.
Lets look at the 1150GS. Apart from the HES, which can be inspected, and a spare kept, the most
common failures are FD big bearing or seal, input splines and drive shafts. All of these are mechanical.
The electronic bits are hardly ever at fault.


+1 :thumleft:

aaaah, some sanity!  :thumleft:

I've often wondered, if there was a bike/car manufacturer that decided to stay old school, would they be in business?