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Title: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: DJ on September 18, 2013, 08:10:07 am
Hey fellow DR riders,

Which aftermarket bars do you recommend? I am around 5'10" and don't really want bars with a cross bar. I would like the bars to be higher to make standing more comfortable. If adapters/raisers are needed for fat bars they must still work with the stock cables.

Any suggestions will be welcomed.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: Ganjora on September 18, 2013, 08:33:59 am
had renthal fat bars on my DR.
raisers available from lecap.
worked fine with all the cables etc.
barkbusters need a different 'inner' fitting.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: Ganjora on September 18, 2013, 08:34:39 am
renthal are the best,  pro taper also very good.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: lecap on September 18, 2013, 09:26:10 am
You will need an adapter  / riser combo. I made some a while back (including the ones for Ganjora) but the project dozed away from no demand.
AFAIK many readily available fat bar adapters don't fit (using 12mm bolts) or they leave you just as low as the OEM bars.
I am sure I still have some on the shelf.

The adapters & risers I made are height adjustable from 5mm to 35mm in 5mm increments. More is possible but it gets tricky with cable lengths.

Not cheap since it's quite a bit of stuff: Riser kit + fat bar adapters + Renthal fat bar R2300 plus postage.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: Ganjora on September 18, 2013, 09:30:33 am
Not cheap since it's quite a bit of stuff: Riser kit + fat bar adapters + Renthal fat bar R2300 plus postage.

not cheap,  but you are left with a MUCH better riding position,  MUCH stronger handle bars - renthals are super tough,  and MUCH cleaner lines - 'cockpit' is less cluttered.
i was very happy with the mod,  but i have always been happiest throwing money at my bikes.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: DJ on September 18, 2013, 09:32:29 am
Thanks for the advice Gonjora and lecap, much appreciated.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: boland on September 18, 2013, 11:30:02 am
Trevor at Adventure Riders in Cape Town also sells the adapter/riser. Don't know if he can post. I put 30 mm risers in without problem, but could tell that higher will become problematic.

http://www.advrider.co.za/index.php?cPath=94&osCsid=51ebe1a5c66bd15dd16a54a2cdddf042 (http://www.advrider.co.za/index.php?cPath=94&osCsid=51ebe1a5c66bd15dd16a54a2cdddf042)
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: lecap on September 19, 2013, 10:53:31 am
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

It's completely new 28mm diameter clamps with a set of shims to adjust the height.
The handlebar clamps are machined off centre and are reversible to give additional adjustability to move the bars further forward (which makes sense) or closer to the seat (which does not make sense ;D ) The important part is that the bars move up AND forward.
The looks of the assembly are much cleaner than the Lego block type risers stacked on top of the OEM clamps.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: boland on September 19, 2013, 12:31:33 pm
Yeah yeah, just tried to help
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: chopperpilot on September 19, 2013, 03:56:15 pm
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

It's completely new 28mm diameter clamps with a set of shims to adjust the height.
The handlebar clamps are machined off centre and are reversible to give additional adjustability to move the bars further forward (which makes sense) or closer to the seat (which does not make sense ;D ) The important part is that the bars move up AND forward.
The looks of the assembly are much cleaner than the Lego block type risers stacked on top of the OEM clamps.
Do you still have a set of clamps and shims?
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: Martin-DR650 on September 19, 2013, 08:47:16 pm
Get yourself a Protaper fatbar and risers, will workout about R1500

1 of the best mods you can do on the DR, It will make the bike feel so much better!

No need to change cables. :thumleft:
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: Martin-DR650 on September 19, 2013, 08:56:22 pm
I found the "Factory Suzuki/KTM Stock" bend, to be the best for me, but it's a personal preference.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: lecap on September 22, 2013, 11:56:03 am
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

It's completely new 28mm diameter clamps with a set of shims to adjust the height.
The handlebar clamps are machined off centre and are reversible to give additional adjustability to move the bars further forward (which makes sense) or closer to the seat (which does not make sense ;D ) The important part is that the bars move up AND forward.
The looks of the assembly are much cleaner than the Lego block type risers stacked on top of the OEM clamps.
Do you still have a set of clamps and shims?

For the fat bars? Must have a look on Monday. I think there were two sets left.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: chopperpilot on September 22, 2013, 06:17:07 pm
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

It's completely new 28mm diameter clamps with a set of shims to adjust the height.
The handlebar clamps are machined off centre and are reversible to give additional adjustability to move the bars further forward (which makes sense) or closer to the seat (which does not make sense ;D ) The important part is that the bars move up AND forward.
The looks of the assembly are much cleaner than the Lego block type risers stacked on top of the OEM clamps.
Do you still have a set of clamps and shims?

For the fat bars? Must have a look on Monday. I think there were two sets left.

Yes, and maybe a pic pse? :thumleft:
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on October 01, 2013, 02:34:34 pm
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

No issues with the "Lego" clamps on a bike like a DR. Certainly a cheaper solution.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: bikoholic on October 03, 2013, 08:38:42 am
I just went with the lego type razers and standard protaper bars and works well for me.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: bikoholic on October 03, 2013, 08:40:00 am
From the front.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: chopperpilot on May 07, 2014, 12:43:24 pm
Please note my conversion does not use the El Cheapo combined fatbar adapter and riser which stack on top of the OEM clamps like Legos and move the bars up parallel to the steering axis.

It's completely new 28mm diameter clamps with a set of shims to adjust the height.
The handlebar clamps are machined off centre and are reversible to give additional adjustability to move the bars further forward (which makes sense) or closer to the seat (which does not make sense ;D ) The important part is that the bars move up AND forward.
The looks of the assembly are much cleaner than the Lego block type risers stacked on top of the OEM clamps.
Do you still have a set of clamps and shims?

For the fat bars? Must have a look on Monday. I think there were two sets left.
Any stock LeCap? ???
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: lecap on May 09, 2014, 08:56:28 am
I have one set left.

Don't think I have a picture of the setup Dave had on his bike.

The conversion consists of:
A set of 28.6mm clamping blocks.
A set of shims 5mm, 10mm and 20mm thick.
Two custom made high tensile extra long bolts to attach the clamping blocks to the OEM damping rubbers in the upper triple clamps with the shims fitted in between. Nice mil grade yellow cadmium plating as usual.

You pick your choice of shims to lift the clamping blocks by any amount from 5mm to 35mm, whatever you deem necessary.
You can go higher than 35mm but you will need custom made cables and I'll have to make a set of extra long bolts.

You can have the same risers for the OEM 22.2mm clamping blocks too.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: chopperpilot on May 09, 2014, 09:25:21 am
I have one set left.

Don't think I have a picture of the setup Dave had on his bike.

The conversion consists of:
A set of 28.6mm clamping blocks.
A set of shims 5mm, 10mm and 20mm thick.
Two custom made high tensile extra long bolts to attach the clamping blocks to the OEM damping rubbers in the upper triple clamps with the shims fitted in between. Nice mil grade yellow cadmium plating as usual.

You pick your choice of shims to lift the clamping blocks by any amount from 5mm to 35mm, whatever you deem necessary.
You can go higher than 35mm but you will need custom made cables and I'll have to make a set of extra long bolts.

You can have the same risers for the OEM 22.2mm clamping blocks too.
Confirm these are the offset raisers, in order to mount the handlebar further forward? ???

Confirm the set you have in stock is for fatbars (28.6mm)? (Clamping blocks for 22.2mm need to be manufactured?)

Pse PM banking details with price and postage for the 28.6mm raisers. :thumleft:
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: lecap on May 13, 2014, 09:33:14 am
Ok here we go:

I've got one set of shim stacks and bolts and small bits left for you.

The clamps shown in the picture are OEM 22.2mm and are symmetrical with 22.2mm bars fitted.

The 28.6mm clamps replace the OEM clamps, are machined from billet stock and the bore for the handlebars is offset by 6mm to the bore for the bolt which attaches the clamp to the upper triple clamp. I get stock tomorrow 28.6mm, possibly 22.2mm too if required.

Means with the 28.6mm clamps the bars will not only move straight up relative to the triple clamp but also a little bit forwards which makes perfect sense since the reach (distance from seat to bar ends) will stay the same or even increase slightly if you fit nice straight MX bend bars with little sweep.

I have limited the adjustment range of the risers to 35mm as firstly this makes a BIG difference although it might not seem a lot (I use 25mm with OEM bars and OEM pegs and I'm 1.94m). it also allows to use the standard clutch, throttle and choke cables as long as you don't combine the risers with very tall bars.
If you need to go VERY tall it's best to combine risers no higher than 35mm with tall bars as this will not reduce the reach as the combination of tall risers and flat bars would.
In this case(only this case) I would anyhow first investigate the option of no more than 35mm risers & bars like CR Mid bend or the likes and pegs  lowered and moved back.
Title: Re: DR650 - Which bars?
Post by: chopperpilot on May 13, 2014, 12:53:00 pm
I would appreciate a set of off-set risers for a fatbar (28.6mm). I have noted the max recommended rise of 35mm.

I already have the footpeg brackets from Vetkat.

Pse PM cost, postage and bank details.


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