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Title: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 14, 2013, 06:30:52 am
Here is the Link for the All New Husqvarna Site --


http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en_us.html (http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en_us.html)

Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BiG DoM on November 14, 2013, 06:33:12 am
Cool, thanks blazes  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 28, 2013, 06:57:12 pm
The new Huskies do look good  :drif: Imagine a 610/630 pushed to a full 650cc with those designs and Husky colours  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BLK on November 28, 2013, 07:13:12 pm
I don't see any dealers listed in SA?Will they be on the same floor as KTM?Certainly provide for Eye Candy.

Thks for link Blazes
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: Crop Sprang on November 28, 2013, 07:28:02 pm
The new Huskies do look good  :drif: Imagine a 610/630 pushed to a full 650cc with those designs and Husky colours  :thumleft:

now give this man a bells !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 05:58:12 am
I don't see any dealers listed in SA?Will they be on the same floor as KTM?Certainly provide for Eye Candy.

Thks for link Blazes


Nope --NEVER Going to see the Husky and KTM on the same floor being sold --SP is keeping them separate as he has decided to make Husky the Premium brand as it has all the trick bits on that the KTM has to pay extra for --Downside is that Husky will cost more than the KTM  ::)

Just look in A BIKING MAGAZINE FOR AGENTS -- ;)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: White Rhino on November 29, 2013, 06:25:26 am
Try Bikers Warehouse on Malibongwe near Branbury shopping centre they carry the range.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: Bensien on November 29, 2013, 06:44:53 am
Spot the differences. It is quite sad. I was hoping that it would be more than just a rebranding exercise.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 07:16:15 am
They had 6 months to get a bike to show and launch --DONT expect a real reflection of what is to come --will most probably only see a Different Husky by 2015 ---

And remember Husaberg came from Husqvarna ---- ::) Husky engineers that went to start Husaberg ---Now Husaberg is no more ---
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: Bensien on November 29, 2013, 07:35:26 am
I know, but the last Husabergs were little more than rebadged KTMís. I did notice that the Husky has a linkage system on the rear suspension. I wonder if KTM will abandon the direct mount idea across the board next year.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 07:49:48 am
Badge engineering aside.

I'm glad Husky now has a owner that:
a) Cares about off road bikes and riding - BMW was trying to make it into a road bike brand FFS????
b) Understands that racing is the key to good off road bike development.  If you are not racing you quickly get left behind and your bikes wont be very good and wont sell.
c) Has re-united Husky and Husaberg - although I would imagine Husaberg fans wont feel the same  :-\
d) Has given Husky a future - BMW seemed intent on just shutting them down through pure incompetence (buy a brand with a long proud history for a lot of money and then just destroy it  ???)
e) Is showing real intent if the speed that things are moving and the scale of the marketing etc are anything to go by.

Only thing I'm not happy with is the high prices  >:(
 
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BLK on November 29, 2013, 07:59:00 am
Try Bikers Warehouse on Malibongwe near Branbury shopping centre they carry the range.

Thks
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BiG DoM on November 29, 2013, 08:22:35 am
Badge engineering aside.

I'm glad Husky now has a owner that:8
a) Cares about off road bikes and riding - BMW was trying to make it into a road bike brand FFS????
b) Understands that racing is the key to good off road bike development.  If you are not racing you quickly get left behind and your bikes wont be very good and wont sell.
c) Has re-united Husky and Husaberg - although I would imagine Husaberg fans wont feel the same  :-\
d) Has given Husky a future - BMW seemed intent on just shutting them down through pure incompetence (buy a brand with a long proud history for a lot of money and then just destroy it  ???)
e) Is showing real intent if the speed that things are moving and the scale of the marketing etc are anything to go by.

Only thing I'm not happy with is the high prices  >:(
 

100% +
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: Rough Rider on November 29, 2013, 08:43:22 am
They had 6 months to get a bike to show and launch --DONT expect a real reflection of what is to come --will most probably only see a Different Husky by 2015 ---

And remember Husaberg came from Husqvarna ---- ::) Husky engineers that went to start Husaberg ---Now Husaberg is no more ---

Dream on  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: dirtWarp on November 29, 2013, 10:42:47 am
Nope --NEVER Going to see the Husky and KTM on the same floor being sold --SP is keeping them separate as he has decided to make Husky the Premium brand as it has all the trick bits on that the KTM has to pay extra for --Downside is that Husky will cost more than the KTM  ::)

Just look in A BIKING MAGAZINE FOR AGENTS -- ;)
So SP basically removed Husaberg from the KTM dealer's floor and did not substitute its empty space with a Husky! WTF?
I was looking forward to having RAD Moto supporting Huskies.. instead, riding a Husky will yet again leave you at the mercy of some random dingy-ass bike shop.

And don't come and tell me that Primrose / ordering from Hall's in the US is the solution.
I need a heavy weight like KTM to support the brand.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: dirtWarp on November 29, 2013, 10:47:50 am
Spot the differences. It is quite sad. I was hoping that it would be more than just a rebranding exercise.
Being a Husaberg fan boy, I find nothing sad in that.
Husky engineers built the racing 4T line that KTM has today, from scratch I might add, and rebranding the Berg as Husky is simply perfect.
You, being a KTM fan will naturally disagree
 ;D
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BLK on November 29, 2013, 12:05:38 pm
Nope --NEVER Going to see the Husky and KTM on the same floor being sold --SP is keeping them separate as he has decided to make Husky the Premium brand as it has all the trick bits on that the KTM has to pay extra for --Downside is that Husky will cost more than the KTM  ::)

Just look in A BIKING MAGAZINE FOR AGENTS -- ;)
So SP basically removed Husaberg from the KTM dealer's floor and did not substitute its empty space with a Husky! WTF?
I was looking forward to having RAD Moto supporting Huskies.. instead, riding a Husky will yet again leave you at the mercy of some random dingy-ass bike shop.

And don't come and tell me that Primrose / ordering from Hall's in the US is the solution.
I need a heavy weight like KTM to support the brand.

You make good sense

 :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 01:27:57 pm
Luckily I no longer care a shit about what happens to KTM -- Husaberg --or even Husky ---

I have enough bikes to last me as nothing new in the DS market will be emerging in the near future '

Will just enjoy what I have ----- FFS I used to race KTM when they were blue and white ????

Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 01:34:10 pm
Looks like my old kit is back in fashion --what a bargain-- ;D

Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 02:06:07 pm
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And don't come and tell me that Primrose / ordering from Hall's in the US is the solution.
I need a heavy weight like KTM to support the brand.

I've seen far more complaining about spares availability etc from the "heavy weight" BMW and KTM brand owners than from any Husky guys. 

So far the availability, response and prices regarding spares I've received from Primrose is better than when I had a BMW, and that's right through two changes of ownership in the Husky brand - you can say what you like, those are the facts.

 
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: BiG DoM on November 29, 2013, 02:36:24 pm
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And don't come and tell me that Primrose / ordering from Hall's in the US is the solution.
I need a heavy weight like KTM to support the brand.

I've seen far more complaining about spares availability etc from the "heavy weight" BMW and KTM brand owners than from any Husky guys. 

So far the availability, response and prices regarding spares I've received from Primrose is better than when I had a BMW, and that's right through two changes of ownership in the Husky brand - you can say what you like, those are the facts.

 

I would agree on this as well - esp with the very poor spares holdings of BMW these days.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: dirtWarp on November 29, 2013, 02:59:05 pm
Luckily I no longer care a shit about what happens to KTM -- Husaberg --or even Husky ---

I have enough bikes to last me as nothing new in the DS market will be emerging in the near future '

Will just enjoy what I have ----- FFS I used to race KTM when they were blue and white ????


Yes, you are lucky and correct about nothing new in the DS market.
Nice pics there!

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And don't come and tell me that Primrose / ordering from Hall's in the US is the solution.
I need a heavy weight like KTM to support the brand.

I've seen far more complaining about spares availability etc from the "heavy weight" BMW and KTM brand owners than from any Husky guys.  

So far the availability, response and prices regarding spares I've received from Primrose is better than when I had a BMW, and that's right through two changes of ownership in the Husky brand - you can say what you like, those are the facts.
 
Don't want to start something again but we have like 10 guys riding Huskies here..

Your argument about spares availability/price is related to your personal experiences, and are not exactly facts.
The support and level of spares carried by Rad Moto is actually damn good. Even for the rare 550 that I had.. no issues. KTM and Jap prices are pretty much the same on most parts. (See, my experience shows a different view)

It pains me to see my friend's 610, waiting for spares, hoping that they will arrive in time for our ride next weekend. It could only help if Husky's were sold next to the KTM's. It will make spares much easier to obtain, don't you think?
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 03:17:20 pm
I think one should rather look at the Bigger picture here --

Husqvarna was sold and resold - Cagiva --then BMW and Now SP --

Lots of red tape had to be cleared up with unions etc --factory moved --production of many spares came to a standstill -- just one of the lousy things that happened -- dealers have been dropped left right and centre not being able to give a good service

Worst of all it took CMH months of negotiating to be the importer for Husky with BMW 's approval --then BMW sells Husky -

Now CMH had to renegotiate with Austria and SP to be the importer of Husqvarna into South Africa

Shit --I don't know if I would have had the balls to push through as the importer here in SA --same goes for the rest of the world --a total mess that is slowly getting sorted

I take my hat off to Fred Fensham from CMH and like the fact that he is a hands on man and is seen at the races as well--and is giving it his best shot --and that is all one can ask for.

Going to be a while --but until then --they have my support.

Ive bitched and complained as well about certain things to him and have seen a serious turn around with some of the dealers ---here ---- holding thumbs.

The four stroke Huskies arrive mid December and the two strokes mid January --

So here in SA we will be the first to have the new Huskies ----

As for Rad --- great lot of people --- ;)

But CMH is a BIG organization compared to them --

And if the new Husky spares are a problem --just order from A KTM dealer as many part numbers will be the same  ::)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 03:21:49 pm
The situation right now is a once-off because the warehouse is moving from Italy-Austria.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 03:28:36 pm
The situation right now is a once-off because the warehouse is moving from Italy-Austria.

Agreed --and if the Italians lost out --TOUGH -- the only place money comes before work --is in the dictionary --

Exciting times ahead --for racing and the brand ---
And as for me --not a DS Bike to buy

Think I am going to buy a triumph and build me a Desert Sled  ::)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2013, 03:38:19 pm
Although I am frustratingly sitting and waiting for spares I do not mind supporting one dealer even if it is only Primrose. I drove out there once (great trek from Pretoria but anyway) and found them a pleasant lot to deal with. Might even be a family owned business ? They certainly look very keen and I was greeted at the door and the parts salesman knew his stuff. Some bike shops you first need to explain to the oke behind the counter what a motorcycle is. They stuck to their guns and seem quite keen on Cagiva and Husky, this whole buying and selling of brands must make it difficult for them too.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2013, 03:39:52 pm

Agreed --and if the Italians lost out --TOUGH -- the only place money comes before work --is in the dictionary --

But they do build pretty stuff when they are not snoozing or drinking some red wine  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 03:40:22 pm
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Your argument about spares availability/price is related to your personal experiences, and are not exactly facts.

PS those were the facts as I experienced them - not sure how that makes them not facts???

But anyway, I think you understand my point.  No point in getting bogged down.

But as you say I don't really care where Husky's are sold, provided the spares are available and the prices reasonable  :thumleft:

So far that's been the case.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 03:53:04 pm

Agreed --and if the Italians lost out --TOUGH -- the only place money comes before work --is in the dictionary --

But they do build pretty stuff when they are not snoozing or drinking some red wine  :biggrin:

They do unfortunately ---

But they like pinching the ladies bums as well -- ::)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 03:58:04 pm
Although I am frustratingly sitting and waiting for spares I do not mind supporting one dealer even if it is only Primrose. I drove out there once (great trek from Pretoria but anyway) and found them a pleasant lot to deal with. Might even be a family owned business ? They certainly look very keen and I was greeted at the door and the parts salesman knew his stuff. Some bike shops you first need to explain to the oke behind the counter what a motorcycle is. They stuck to their guns and seem quite keen on Cagiva and Husky, this whole buying and selling of brands must make it difficult for them too.

Hmmm and Why did you not ask me for a waterpump ????? could have loaned you a secondhand one until you came right ----

But that's ok --will keep my spare motor and spares for a rainy day ---  ::)

Crank bearing kaputt --- but will strip all the good stuff out --its a SM but same motor 06 ---
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: dirtWarp on November 29, 2013, 03:59:17 pm
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Your argument about spares availability/price is related to your personal experiences, and are not exactly facts.
Yes I phrased that incorrectly; the fact that you experience something in a certain way, doesn't make that the norm for everybody else.
 ;)

Yes Blazes you are right, one can simply buy the Husky parts from KTM anyway so what's my point really  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 29, 2013, 04:03:23 pm
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Your argument about spares availability/price is related to your personal experiences, and are not exactly facts.
Yes I phrased that incorrectly; the fact that you experience something in a certain way, doesn't make that the norm for everybody else.
 ;)

Yes Blazes you are right, one can simply buy the Husky parts from KTM anyway so what's my point really  :imaposer:

Yep and we getting a new KTM Dealer just down the road from us --come January  ;)
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2013, 04:08:46 pm
Although I am frustratingly sitting and waiting for spares I do not mind supporting one dealer even if it is only Primrose. I drove out there once (great trek from Pretoria but anyway) and found them a pleasant lot to deal with. Might even be a family owned business ? They certainly look very keen and I was greeted at the door and the parts salesman knew his stuff. Some bike shops you first need to explain to the oke behind the counter what a motorcycle is. They stuck to their guns and seem quite keen on Cagiva and Husky, this whole buying and selling of brands must make it difficult for them too.

Hmmm and Why did you not ask me for a waterpump ????? could have loaned you a secondhand one until you came right ----

But that's ok --will keep my spare motor and spares for a rainy day ---  ::)

Crank bearing kaputt --- but will strip all the good stuff out --its a SM but same motor 06 ---
My waterpump is fixed as I got an impeller from Primrose I need rockers though. Do you have a head for me  :biggrin: My rocker are worn and after removal I cannot put them back so I'm stuck and the ride is almost here  :(
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 04:33:05 pm
Although I am frustratingly sitting and waiting for spares I do not mind supporting one dealer even if it is only Primrose. I drove out there once (great trek from Pretoria but anyway) and found them a pleasant lot to deal with. Might even be a family owned business ? They certainly look very keen and I was greeted at the door and the parts salesman knew his stuff. Some bike shops you first need to explain to the oke behind the counter what a motorcycle is. They stuck to their guns and seem quite keen on Cagiva and Husky, this whole buying and selling of brands must make it difficult for them too.

Hmmm and Why did you not ask me for a waterpump ????? could have loaned you a secondhand one until you came right ----

But that's ok --will keep my spare motor and spares for a rainy day ---  ::)

Crank bearing kaputt --- but will strip all the good stuff out --its a SM but same motor 06 ---
My waterpump is fixed as I got a impeller from Primrose I need rockers though. Do you have a head for me  :biggrin: My rocker are worn and after removal I cannot put them back so I'm stuck and the ride is almost here  :(

I refurbished my rockers when my engine was out recently and have the old bearings - what do you need?
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2013, 05:50:56 pm
Although I am frustratingly sitting and waiting for spares I do not mind supporting one dealer even if it is only Primrose. I drove out there once (great trek from Pretoria but anyway) and found them a pleasant lot to deal with. Might even be a family owned business ? They certainly look very keen and I was greeted at the door and the parts salesman knew his stuff. Some bike shops you first need to explain to the oke behind the counter what a motorcycle is. They stuck to their guns and seem quite keen on Cagiva and Husky, this whole buying and selling of brands must make it difficult for them too.
I need the 4 x bushes that sits inside the rockers. I removed mine from the rockers, will post pics soon
Hmmm and Why did you not ask me for a waterpump ????? could have loaned you a secondhand one until you came right ----

But that's ok --will keep my spare motor and spares for a rainy day ---  ::)

Crank bearing kaputt --- but will strip all the good stuff out --its a SM but same motor 06 ---
My waterpump is fixed as I got a impeller from Primrose I need rockers though. Do you have a head for me  :biggrin: My rocker are worn and after removal I cannot put them back so I'm stuck and the ride is almost here  :(

I refurbished my rockers when my engine was out recently and have the old bearings - what do you need?
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 06:07:39 pm
Does that mean no comment?

I'm saying you are welcome to use my old bearings if you want they aren't buggered.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: sidetrack on November 29, 2013, 06:14:34 pm
Does that mean no comment?

I'm saying you are welcome to use my old bearings if you want they aren't buggered.
Was trying to post pics from my cell, my bearings are fine - bushes are buggered. Notice they are split units. From the factory the split was fitted to face down towards the motor inside the rocker this is also where most of the wear took place. I wonder if they need to be installed that way for a reason or can the split point in any direction ?
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 29, 2013, 06:39:56 pm
Oh OK

Unfortunately I don't have the old bushes.

Also just checked, while Conrad gave me back the old roller bearings he did pull them to pieces removing them, so cant actually help.

Pity.
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: alanB on November 30, 2013, 07:52:18 am
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From the factory the split was fitted to face down towards the motor inside the rocker this is also where most of the wear took place. I wonder if they need to be installed that way for a reason or can the split point in any direction ?

Look I don't know for certain, but if you think about the forces on the rocker,, then having the split at the bottom does seem wrong.

 
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: Mikedabike on November 30, 2013, 08:41:43 am
"Yep and we getting a new KTM Dealer just down the road from us --come January"

Name and owners of the new dealership Blazes??
Title: Re: Husqvarna have a all new SITE --
Post by: blazes on November 30, 2013, 10:51:30 am
"Yep and we getting a new KTM Dealer just down the road from us --come January"

Name and owners of the new dealership Blazes??

Riaan --ex Husaberg dealer in Silverton --think he went by the name AKX--and mechanic from Ultimate performance --