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Title: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 01:11:04 pm
just a feeler poll as Im seeing alot of talking about how those that got etags are a sheeple. whos in?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 01:13:49 pm
been done a few times my girlfriend apparently says? where?
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Post by: da PEEG on December 03, 2013, 01:17:31 pm
I took part in all the BAT (Bikers Against Tolls) protest rides. I was embarrassed by the small number of adventure/DS/MX bikers that attended. I suppose that deep down, we don't enjoy crowds/traffic/etc. but prefer the call of the wild, the dust and the freedom of adventure...

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Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 01:21:46 pm
 :thumleft: im sure, not a mass action bunch. lets call it a bash?  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 03, 2013, 01:22:24 pm
in!!!
i (contract worker - no work no pay) am prepared to sacrifice an entire day.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on December 03, 2013, 01:28:50 pm
I've done some of the BAT rides and will do a WD one as well  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on December 03, 2013, 01:35:39 pm
YOu don't need a lot of bikes to have an effect on traffic and  get peoples attention . If you join the BAT group you will see they have got add-hoc rides sometimes leaving from the Engen here in Woodmead . % to 6 bikes everytime but they get airtime on Jakaranda and a lot of support from most cagers . But any excuse to get out , so I will join .
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BFG on December 03, 2013, 01:36:37 pm
If something can be put together I'll be there :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 01:37:35 pm
ok well it would make more sense in the spirit of things to join the BAT crowd.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 02:34:03 pm
this thread came into existence 1 hour an 20 minutes ago...only 9 replies including this one ....

3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

that shows insight into the mentality, here is a real worthwhile exercise worth investigation and only 9 replies ....

okes would rather whinge than act
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BFG on December 03, 2013, 02:38:25 pm
this thread came into existence 1 hour an 20 minutes ago...only 9 replies including this one ....

3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

that shows insight into the mentality, here is a real worthwhile exercise worth investigation and only 9 replies ....

okes would rather whinge than act
Just because I ride a KTM doesn't mean it will break down ;)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 03, 2013, 02:43:01 pm
3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

who's the spineless twatwaffle?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: alanB on December 03, 2013, 02:45:12 pm
I've been on a few, but will do some more as and when.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 02:45:35 pm
3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

who's the spineless twatwaffle?

I suspect dirtyxt hey , but his goose is on the forum an may withhold all favours if his true colours come through
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: ShadedGS on December 03, 2013, 02:50:31 pm
<-- Spineless Twatwaffle  :pot:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on December 03, 2013, 02:51:09 pm
How about starting a post and then you can tell everybody how they should either go about protesting this toll thing or show them how to install the e-tag . You have made comments in all the E-Toll related comments and all are negative , or did I maybe miss a post where you gave your suggestions and advice on the matter ?

this thread came into existence 1 hour an 20 minutes ago...only 9 replies including this one ....

3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

that shows insight into the mentality, here is a real worthwhile exercise worth investigation and only 9 replies ....

okes would rather whinge than act
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 03:18:24 pm
3 from the originator, 1 from the spinelss twatwaffle and 5 from okes who say they are prepared to actually make a stand ....once a date has bee nset 3 of those 5 will be busy that day an cant make it , 1 ou's bike wil lbreak down leaving 1 ou

who's the spineless twatwaffle?

I suspect dirtyxt hey , but his goose is on the forum an may withhold all favours if his true colours come through
good point negative nancy. This as stated is to test waters not whinge some more.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: RedWolf on December 03, 2013, 03:43:30 pm
I'm in.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: J-dog on December 03, 2013, 03:45:04 pm
Gonna give it a miss Leejay. No money, no bike, live in the armpit and no friends. but enjoy  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Mikedabike on December 03, 2013, 03:49:49 pm
IMHO All you gonna do is piss off the cagers that already do not like bikers and have little or no effect and impact on the people who own the tolls and SANRAL so rather don't do it.  :dousing:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Pistonpete on December 03, 2013, 03:52:36 pm
RC's  :sip:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on December 03, 2013, 03:52:41 pm
Decide on a date, I am in if still in Gautengeleng. Otherwise early January,
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: XTFREAK on December 03, 2013, 03:55:40 pm
Woodmead Engen? Lets do this. When? And what does this entail anyway?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 03:59:24 pm
IMHO All you gonna do is piss off the cagers that already do not like bikers and have little or no effect and impact on the people who own the tolls and SANRAL so rather don't do it.  :dousing:
well its a protest so I'm sure the cagers already with their tags will be pissed cause they already rolled over. how else would you propose that we use the WDs juggernaut? media will support us as it's a hot topic and put pressure on politicians. may amount to sod all but its more than most are prepared to do. and thats the point for me.if only we had the solidarity of other communities we would be unstoppable.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: GregOnGS on December 03, 2013, 03:59:39 pm
Who's the culprit???  Just got the email doing the rounds!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 04:04:09 pm
Woodmead Engen? Lets do this. When? And what does this entail anyway?
nothing official yet. joining the BAT gang. need numbers. anyone know BAT?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 04:05:55 pm
Who's the culprit???  Just got the email doing the rounds!
OROS has to join in... or lend us that plate!
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Post by: Lynn on December 03, 2013, 04:24:10 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 05:11:42 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...

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Post by: RassieGS on December 03, 2013, 06:06:15 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 06:09:06 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.
ja boet.  spread you're negative self else where a bit!  :deal: are you in or out or.just having a whinge?
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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 06:42:40 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.

RassieGS my good man, I want you to know that we miss your opinions on this here forum hey, you really should voice them more often for they are pearls of pure wisdom...

so I take it you up for the protest action an we can count you in hey...... so that makes 11 by my count , possibly 12 If Bundu is around ...... I think 12 should hurt Sanral where it hurts most hey , I bet ole zuma is in the bunker at Nkandla already shivering in fear...

look forward to your profound reply to the positive ....

I sincerely hope this thread can get to 35 pages and we can get hundreds of dogs to take real action ...

Edit: news flash news flash we are up to 21 positives after how many views....wow the dogs are a militant bunch, I mis judged the voraciousness of the anti sanral sentiment it appears
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Post by: RassieGS on December 03, 2013, 06:48:23 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.

RassieGS my good man, I want you to know that we miss your opinions on this here forum hey, you really should voice them more often for they are pearls of pure wisdom...

so I take it you up for the protest action an we can count you in hey...... so that makes 11 by my count , possibly 12 If Bundu is around ...... I think 12 should hurt Sanral where it hurts most hey , I bet ole zuma is in the bunker at Nkandla already shivering in fear...

look forward to your profound reply to the positive ....

I sincerely hope this thread can get to 35 pages and we can get hundreds of dogs to take real action ...

Edit: news flash news flash we are up to 21 positives after how many views....wow the dogs are a militant bunch, I mis judged the voraciousness of the anti sanral sentiment it appears
I did not say I can join the ride. I actually spoke to Laurika yesterday with regards to an party this weekend I can not attend either due to work. But I tell you what send me your bank account I will transfer enough over for tank of fuel for the XT, and you can join on my behalve.
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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 06:51:05 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.

RassieGS my good man, I want you to know that we miss your opinions on this here forum hey, you really should voice them more often for they are pearls of pure wisdom...

so I take it you up for the protest action an we can count you in hey...... so that makes 11 by my count , possibly 12 If Bundu is around ...... I think 12 should hurt Sanral where it hurts most hey , I bet ole zuma is in the bunker at Nkandla already shivering in fear...

look forward to your profound reply to the positive ....

I sincerely hope this thread can get to 35 pages and we can get hundreds of dogs to take real action ...

Edit: news flash news flash we are up to 21 positives after how many views....wow the dogs are a militant bunch, I mis judged the voraciousness of the anti sanral sentiment it appears
I did not say I can join the ride. I actually spoke to Laurika yesterday with regards to an party this weekend I can not attend either due to work. But I tell you what send me your bank account I will transfer enough over for tank of fuel for the XT, and you can join on my behalve.

oh no , what a disappointment ....but you free next week maybe.......

without you we back to 11 , mebbe 10 if bundu not in gautengaleng ...nevermind ..I am sure the 10 of us will strike fear in the black heart of Mr Allie....

seeing as you cannot make it can you please share more of your excellent opinions for us

thanks for the offer for juice but I shall decline
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Post by: Bundu on December 03, 2013, 06:57:30 pm
oh no , what a disappointment ....but you free next week maybe.......

without you we back to 11 , mebbe 10 if bundu not in gautengaleng ...nevermind ..I am sure the 10 of us will strike fear in the black heart of Mr Allie....

seeing as you cannot make it can you please share more of your excellent opinions for us

thanks for the offer for juice but I shall decline

I thought you would - You must be a very wealthy man, provided you applied all your boundless wisdom and understanding to make money..... then again, probably not
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Post by: RassieGS on December 03, 2013, 07:00:17 pm
Care to elaborate Icecreamman?

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well here is a thread that requires real action, forcing one to come out from behind the keyboard an actually do something ...an look at the overwhelming reposnse to real action from all the hard core freedom fighters......

we will be lucky to get 20 dogs for this protest action by the looks of things ...u know if the okes aint washing their hair , or doing something else, or if they in Gauteng or if their cat is not moulting ...


IceCreamMan, hell buddy who pissed you of. Or is it the orange kak on your dash giving you migraine? Do you work for SANRAL or the goverment or for e-toll or are you a tag-and-release rep. I do not normally give my opinions on this forum but you make my hair stand up. Get over your tag and go on with life. Join the cause on your bike or does it also have a tag now.

RassieGS my good man, I want you to know that we miss your opinions on this here forum hey, you really should voice them more often for they are pearls of pure wisdom...

so I take it you up for the protest action an we can count you in hey...... so that makes 11 by my count , possibly 12 If Bundu is around ...... I think 12 should hurt Sanral where it hurts most hey , I bet ole zuma is in the bunker at Nkandla already shivering in fear...

look forward to your profound reply to the positive ....

I sincerely hope this thread can get to 35 pages and we can get hundreds of dogs to take real action ...

Edit: news flash news flash we are up to 21 positives after how many views....wow the dogs are a militant bunch, I mis judged the voraciousness of the anti sanral sentiment it appears
I did not say I can join the ride. I actually spoke to Laurika yesterday with regards to an party this weekend I can not attend either due to work. But I tell you what send me your bank account I will transfer enough over for tank of fuel for the XT, and you can join on my behalve.

oh no , what a disappointment ....but you free next week maybe.......

without you we back to 11 , mebbe 10 if bundu not in gautengaleng ...nevermind ..I am sure the 10 of us will strike fear in the black heart of Mr Allie....

seeing as you cannot make it can you please share more of your excellent opinions for us

thanks for the offer for juice but I shall decline
I thought you will say something like that. Since when are you part of the us. So actually it seems to me you are only stirring. Please post pics of you and your tag underneath a gantry in your car or your bluff is called. Everybody ICM bluffs he stated 3 times in his post he is 1 of us, I am relieved thought there are really such wankers around us. :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dieseldawie on December 03, 2013, 07:28:39 pm
Should I take my etag off for this or keep it on?
I actually think that this would be more effective at one of the Bakwena toll gates where there is a barrier so the cagers don't just run us all over when we stop in the road.
We could each take one gate, then get off our bikes to find money etc drop our gloves, helmet off, find the wallet, etc etc
We could demand that Bakwena reduce the charges to the same as Sanral, then the money I save will pay for my Sanral trip each day.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 07:35:57 pm
good thinking. to the guyd who attended the BAT rides what's the attack. plan?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 03, 2013, 08:15:43 pm
good thinking. to the guyd who attended the BAT rides what's the attack. plan?

why ask the BAT guys? that was like a lil law abiding sedate procession on the ring road, no antagonism shown but I bet the riders were very very cwoss with Sanral ....

the thread subject says protest...we want protest not procession.....viva dirty xt viva
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 08:21:37 pm
thanks ICM. go do something else will ja! being an expert on everything is wonderful. join us or critise the world on another thread see.  :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 03, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
the BAT page is on face book

defying the scumral is not only about riding in the mass rides , its also about oneself not complying to e toll

so do your thing man , show support , and walk the walk
or alternatively  follow the other spinles cummguzzlers  and support the corruption 
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on December 03, 2013, 09:42:16 pm
the BAT page is on face book

defying the scumral is not only about riding in the mass rides , its also about oneself not complying to e toll

so do your thing man , show support , and walk the walk
or alternatively  follow the other spinles cummguzzlers  and support the corruption 


 :lol8: you'll be accused of "name calling" and that is much worse than being spineless  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 03, 2013, 09:58:38 pm
 ;) if I listened to everyone that called me names I would be very very angry. After the last assault case  :deal: :imaposer: ive learnt to ignore the noises from the little folk. lets give it sometime for the non everyday dogs. I think we will all know by the end of the week our positions. who knows which protest pops up.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 03, 2013, 10:10:16 pm
the BAT page is on face book

defying the scumral is not only about riding in the mass rides , its also about oneself not complying to e toll

so do your thing man , show support , and walk the walk
or alternatively  follow the other spinles cummguzzlers  and support the corruption 


 :lol8: you'll be accused of "name calling" and that is much worse than being spineless  ;) ;D

i have been accused of a lot worse ,  even the "ministers" have taken to call me "unpatriotic , lawless"  etc ..........  and uhmmm ....  nope i still dont give a shyte ,,,,  especially when it comes from other  twatwaffle cummguzzlers like "ministers  "  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Lensman on December 03, 2013, 10:43:51 pm
Fawk the politics - lets protest. I'm in.

Place, date time and lets go.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Wildcoast on December 03, 2013, 10:56:41 pm
I am in  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 03, 2013, 11:58:55 pm
there is gingto be a BAT ride on the 16 th dec
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 04, 2013, 06:56:09 am
sounds good! probably be a quiet day but lets see if all the guys here will turn up. Where they starting?

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Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 04, 2013, 07:00:18 am
there is gingto be a BAT ride on the 16 th dec

participant's numberplates should be removed/obscured, 
the far right,  and lane next to it should be filled with bikes travelling at 60kph, 
giving the salute at every gantry as we go under.

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Mzee on December 04, 2013, 07:04:17 am
I am in but which road shall we ride since the main road is tolled?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Mzee on December 04, 2013, 07:05:09 am
there is gingto be a BAT ride on the 16 th dec

participant's numberplates should be removed/obscured, 
the far right,  and lane next to it should be filled with bikes travelling at 60kph, 
giving the salute at every gantry as we go under.



But Ganjora you did not join the forum in 2013? :sip:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: ShadedGS on December 04, 2013, 07:21:29 am
Sorry guys - I'm away on the 16th - it's a public holiday.

I support BAT fully in what they're doing and I would like to hope that more people will join in as the ride commences.

I give the salute at every gantry I pass in the hopes that those that see me will follow suit as well :)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 04, 2013, 07:22:54 am
But Ganjora you did not join the forum in 2013? :sip:

tee hee
only in this particular incarnation,  professor Jaki.
actually joined in june 2006.
RobC's smiley:   :sip:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on December 04, 2013, 07:49:34 am
I think that is why the etol system was activated now, most of us will be away on leave, as from tomorrow.

The best will be to start organizing a massive protest for early in January 2014, when everybody is back
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: ShadedGS on December 04, 2013, 07:52:32 am
I think that is why the etol system was activated now, most of us will be away on leave, as from tomorrow.

Yep - and then they can claim they made traffic better by implementing now.... see - less congestion!   :pot:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 04, 2013, 07:58:45 am
I think that is why the etol system was activated now, most of us will be away on leave, as from tomorrow.

The best will be to start organizing a massive protest for early in January 2014, when everybody is back
not a bad idea. but maybe we can still annoy ICM...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: RobC on December 04, 2013, 08:36:06 am
RobC's smiley:   :sip:
:imaposer: :imaposer:
I'm gonna toll you for use! :deal: :sip: :lol8:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: KiLRoy on December 04, 2013, 10:47:58 am
Fuck the N1 - lets ride to their farking offices ---- http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140112.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140112.0)
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Post by: punisher on December 04, 2013, 12:37:14 pm
sounds good! probably be a quiet day but lets see if all the guys here will turn up. Where they starting?

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Sorry dirrent get the details yet. , join bikers against e-tolls on FB

Lots of banter going on there
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 04, 2013, 01:26:44 pm
Fuck the N1 - lets ride to their farking offices ---- http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140112.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140112.0)
fook. I'm all in for that!!! great plan.

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Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: MTK on December 06, 2013, 07:48:56 am
Give us a date and we're in. I say plates off and spend the day N1 and N12 just riding past all gantries all day
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Halfdaft on December 06, 2013, 08:36:22 am
In
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on December 07, 2013, 09:17:58 pm
any dogs doing the Que Sera ride tomorrow morning?

I'm going, but a bit later - not a morning person...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 07, 2013, 11:01:01 pm
I will be at Que Sera tomorrow.

The BATs had a protest yesterday morning at various on & offramps to the highway, I was with the group at Linksfield, punisher was also there.

There is a Bat protest ride on the 16th from the BP Oasis on the N1, will confirm times etc and post tomorrow.  PLS COME JOIN US.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on December 07, 2013, 11:42:17 pm
I will be at Que Sera tomorrow.

The BATs had a protest yesterday morning at various on & offramps to the highway, I was with the group at Linksfield, punisher was also there.

There is a Bat protest ride on the 16th from the BP Oasis on the N1, will confirm times etc and post tomorrow.  PLS COME JOIN US.
:thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 08, 2013, 09:43:42 am
I will be at Que Sera tomorrow.

The BATs had a protest yesterday morning at various on & offramps to the highway, I was with the group at Linksfield, punisher was also there.

There is a Bat protest ride on the 16th from the BP Oasis on the N1, will confirm times etc and post tomorrow.  PLS COME JOIN US.

when quoting my name please highlight it ..............  i like being a wee bit bold   heheheh  good to see you again   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 08, 2013, 12:13:41 pm

when quoting my name please highlight it ..............  i like being a wee bit bold   heheheh  good to see you again   :thumleft:

Jammer OOM    :pot:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 08, 2013, 12:15:50 pm
BAT - Bikers Against e-Toll protest ride on Monday 16th, starts from N1 BP Oasis (Cresta side) 07:30, will be doing a full circle of the ring road, N1, N12, N3, N1


Was at Que Sera earlier, we hung a BAT anti e-toll banner in a tree so that the guys could see where we were, decent turnout on the run.
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 08, 2013, 01:31:09 pm
great ok. im in for the 16th! everyone else who said they keen please keep to your commitment!
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Post by: DouglasN on December 08, 2013, 01:51:59 pm
 
great ok. im in for the 16th! everyone else who said they keen please keep to your commitment!

:thumright: :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 08, 2013, 02:39:02 pm
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 08, 2013, 06:56:38 pm
fantastic! Could everyone re confirm to this date. lets make it count! will think up some civil disobedience tricks for the event. ill be coming from midrand for any pta based dogs. can meet you on the R55
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Tommy Transalp on December 09, 2013, 09:21:41 am
I'm in!... will see if I can get some biker buddies to join from various clubs. >:D :3some:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: MTK on December 09, 2013, 09:25:58 am
Im in..(If you allow superbikes ;D)
Will also get some non WD Mates to join
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 09, 2013, 10:02:50 am
Im in..(If you allow superbikes ;D)


Ummmmm  :peepwall:    ok , we will let you join  :pot:

everybody is welcome, cages will ride at the back though.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 09, 2013, 10:17:23 am
I'm in
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 09, 2013, 11:03:32 am
I'm in!... will see if I can get some biker buddies to join from various clubs. >:D :3some:
no worries ive also invited my mates who ride silly bikes... ;-) pull in we all equal from 7:30 to whoever makes it back first.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on December 09, 2013, 11:06:06 am
If Pretoria Dogs are going , I always stop at the Ultra Ciry for breakfast before going to the ride . Normally join the superbike blokes that also stops there but I struggle to stay with them .
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 09, 2013, 11:09:16 am
is everyone taking their numberplate off/obscuring it?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: wiledog_X on December 09, 2013, 11:25:52 am
If Pretoria Dogs are going , I always stop at the Ultra Ciry for breakfast before going to the ride . Normally join the superbike blokes that also stops there but I struggle to stay with them .

who will be going through from Pretoria? meet where and time perhaps?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Frog on December 09, 2013, 11:35:58 am
I'm in
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on December 09, 2013, 11:42:02 am
is everyone taking their numberplate off/obscuring it?

i think a valid question.
you need to be seen to be protesting.
if you all ride around with your numberplates on,  they will simply send you a bill.
i would imagine using their road,  and them not being able to bill you is what it's all about?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ortos on December 09, 2013, 12:17:43 pm
Say when I`m there..................... >:D >:D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Tommy Transalp on December 09, 2013, 12:48:24 pm
is everyone taking their numberplate off/obscuring it?

i think a valid question.
you need to be seen to be protesting.
if you all ride around with your numberplates on,  they will simply send you a bill.
i would imagine using their road,  and them not being able to bill you is what it's all about?
I'll be obscuring my plate, but because I'm not registered, it's not going to make any diffence.... Scamral is NOT getting paid!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 09, 2013, 12:58:15 pm
is everyone taking their numberplate off/obscuring it?
I'm obscuring mine first time round. if we have numbers ill probably show it. see the mood.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Groenie on December 09, 2013, 01:16:54 pm
Don't need to obscure mine, I'll put a F@K etoll plate over it.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 09, 2013, 07:58:59 pm
I dont need to obscure mine, ive never had a numberplate since the day I got my bike.  :deal:

See you there bud!
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 09, 2013, 08:48:02 pm
fook the hardcore criminals are coming out now... Common manne don't wimp out now.
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 09, 2013, 08:53:21 pm
anyone heard from ICM?  his yapping seems distant. come boet. join the movement. you can be one of us still see.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 10, 2013, 12:53:17 am
(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=140045.0;attach=322667;image)

Sorry to say but I received news tonight that the official legal protest ride has been cancelled, there is a move to do a NON-BAT ride anyway, not sure of the implications or consequences.

Will post more detail as soon as I get it.
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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 10, 2013, 06:05:08 am
anyone heard from ICM?  his yapping seems distant. come boet. join the movement. you can be one of us still see.

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...
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Post by: Ganjora on December 10, 2013, 06:14:34 am

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...

34 with you???
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 06:27:06 am
(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=140045.0;attach=322667;image)

Sorry to say but I received news tonight that the official legal protest ride has been cancelled, there is a move to do a NON-BAT ride anyway, not sure of the implications or consequences.

Will post more detail as soon as I get it.
ok well stuff it. I'm doing it anyway.
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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 10, 2013, 06:28:00 am

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...

34 with you???

sadly I am already included in the 33  :biggrin:
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 06:30:24 am
anyone heard from ICM?  his yapping seems distant. come boet. join the movement. you can be one of us still see.

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...
hehe you're predictable bud. blah blah doesn't take a genius to break things down. we all know where sarcasm fits in the wit-meter. nah pull in have a ride. ill spot you a mcmuffin.
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Post by: IceCreamMan on December 10, 2013, 06:49:22 am
anyone heard from ICM?  his yapping seems distant. come boet. join the movement. you can be one of us still see.

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...
hehe you're predictable bud. blah blah doesn't take a genius to break things down. we all know where sarcasm fits in the wit-meter. nah pull in have a ride. ill spot you a mcmuffin.

merely pointing out that although the dogs are all militant against this etolls when it comes to doing a lil more than whinging about them then well then they not so militant.......  :biggrin:

life really I guess
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Post by: Ganjora on December 10, 2013, 06:52:33 am
sadly I am already included in the 33  :biggrin:

 :thumleft:

merely pointing out that although the dogs are all militant against this etolls when it comes to doing a lil more than whinging about them then well then they not so militant.......  :biggrin:

life really I guess

sadly you are right...
no matter,  at least a few of us have the balls to do something.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: KiLRoy on December 10, 2013, 07:21:35 am
Do it now with all the dignitaries in the country.  Ride with banners saying.....Madiba hates etolls.  Ride where all the car convoys go.

Write a letter in public asking for prood that Nazi Allie have billed Clinton, Obama, Blair, etc etc....

Use this opportunity... The window is only open till Sunday.
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Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 07:47:20 am
anyone heard from ICM?  his yapping seems distant. come boet. join the movement. you can be one of us still see.

dude I see the rebellion is moving along very nicely ,,after 900 views we have 33 ppl who "Say" they can attend......

the power of numbers, Mr Allie is shitting himself ek se...
hehe you're predictable bud. blah blah doesn't take a genius to break things down. we all know where sarcasm fits in the wit-meter. nah pull in have a ride. ill spot you a mcmuffin.

merely pointing out that although the dogs are all militant against this etolls when it comes to doing a lil more than whinging about them then well then they not so militant.......  :biggrin:

life really I guess
for sure. lets break that mould then shall we. see you 16th!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 07:50:23 am
Do it now with all the dignitaries in the country.  Ride with banners saying.....Madiba hates etolls.  Ride where all the car convoys go.

Write a letter in public asking for prood that Nazi Allie have billed Clinton, Obama, Blair, etc etc....

Use this opportunity... The window is only open till Sunday.
fook boet. do that im pretty certain the military and entire soweto general public will be shooting at us. effective yes. start the thread. lets hit the funeral for maximum coverage! >:D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 10, 2013, 11:56:39 am

Sorry to say but I received news tonight that the official legal protest ride has been cancelled, there is a move to do a NON-BAT ride anyway, not sure of the implications or consequences.

Will post more detail as soon as I get it.


seems as though we are all supposed to seen to be on our best behaviour for the influx of international guests for the Mandela services etc.  Security police shut down the event.

It will just be run at a later date.

If you do want to carry on & do something, understand that it is not BAT sanctioned this time around.


Will start a new thread for the next sanctioned ride.

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 12:03:46 pm
thanks Douglas, it seems obvious why they would shut this down, maximum effect. what are the consequences? does anyone think that the damage done to SA on an international scale might outweigh the damage to pockets? we a peaceful fun loving bunch!!! think the cops may go bezerk and throw the lot of us in a pit somewhere?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BFG on December 10, 2013, 12:11:58 pm
If the ride on the 16th is still I will be there for sure :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Jaaks on December 10, 2013, 12:31:13 pm
I would like to attend but it is bloody far ride out from Pta and then around the ring and back :-)
 :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 12:31:33 pm
ok udpated the poll.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 12:34:58 pm
I'm leaning towards early next year, i don't think anyone gives a shit about etolls right now?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 10, 2013, 01:00:08 pm
thanks Douglas, it seems obvious why they would shut this down, maximum effect. what are the consequences? does anyone think that the damage done to SA on an international scale might outweigh the damage to pockets? we a peaceful fun loving bunch!!! think the cops may go bezerk and throw the lot of us in a pit somewhere?

From what James is saying , it is not SAPS or Metro, they are generally on our side with this, but the security guys who seem to have somewhat less accountability for their actions.  BAT don't want a biker taken out in any way so would rather fight another day.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 10, 2013, 01:12:25 pm
thanks douglas, just read the FB messages. ok i agree then, on the upside we can revive this after all the excitement dies down with greater support and numbers... on the other hand it is maximum exposure but I'm not so sure i want to put myself in a potential global news covered event. oooorrrrr... five minutes of fame ???  ???
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 10, 2013, 02:32:44 pm
If anyone is interested in one of these stickers for covering their numberplates on the day (or forever), please send me a PM.

I am helping a mate to get orders (His name is Riaan), he started the Facebook Group below.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/no.etoll.gp/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/no.etoll.gp/)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1491527_10151750930460740_1942267133_o.jpg)

250mm x 160mm.

They are selling for R30.00. This is really not expensive at all, and it's for a worthy cause.
For the first time in my bike's history, I am going to be affixing my number plate to my bike, but I will stick this decal on the reverse side of my plate, so as to allow for easy 'flipping" it around if / when faced with an unavoidable roadblock.

Who is with me?

SPAAAAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 10, 2013, 03:10:30 pm
If anyone is interested in one of these stickers for covering their numberplates on the day (or forever), please send me a PM.

I am helping a mate to get orders (His name is Riaan), he started the Facebook Group below.



250mm x 160mm.

They are selling for R30.00. This is really not expensive at all, and it's for a worthy cause.
For the first time in my bike's history, I am going to be affixing my number plate to my bike, but I will stick this decal on the reverse side of my plate, so as to allow for easy 'flipping" it around if / when faced with an unavoidable roadblock.

Who is with me?

SPAAAAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Yes,
Pls support Riaan, he was with us at Linksfield last week and he was at Que Sera on Sunday, it was his banner waving in the tree.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 10, 2013, 03:17:41 pm
I got mine last week :D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 10, 2013, 03:23:33 pm
Cool, did you stick yours over the actual number plate or on the reverse?
Are Riaan's stickers the exact size of the real dimensions of the legal plate?

I wouldnt know as Ive never had a numberplate on my bike.

I got mine last week :D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on December 10, 2013, 03:44:31 pm
I stuck it on the reverse side of my numberplate
The dimmensions are as close as demmit
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 10, 2013, 03:52:02 pm
Awesome, glad to hear, that's exactly what I was hoping to hear!

Thanks

I stuck it on the reverse side of my numberplate
The dimmensions are as close as demmit
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BFG on December 10, 2013, 04:14:40 pm
If anyone is interested in one of these stickers for covering their numberplates on the day (or forever), please send me a PM.

I am helping a mate to get orders (His name is Riaan), he started the Facebook Group below.



250mm x 160mm.

They are selling for R30.00. This is really not expensive at all, and it's for a worthy cause.
For the first time in my bike's history, I am going to be affixing my number plate to my bike, but I will stick this decal on the reverse side of my plate, so as to allow for easy 'flipping" it around if / when faced with an unavoidable roadblock.

Who is with me?

SPAAAAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
I'll take one.
Let me know when you have it and I'll come collect :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 10, 2013, 04:39:07 pm
Im not stocking them, I'm just taking orders by PM, and then when I get a reasonable amount, I will place the order with Riaan, and we can hand them to you guys at the next eToll protest.

Cool with everyone?

If anyone is interested in one of these stickers for covering their numberplates on the day (or forever), please send me a PM.

I am helping a mate to get orders (His name is Riaan), he started the Facebook Group below.



250mm x 160mm.

They are selling for R30.00. This is really not expensive at all, and it's for a worthy cause.
For the first time in my bike's history, I am going to be affixing my number plate to my bike, but I will stick this decal on the reverse side of my plate, so as to allow for easy 'flipping" it around if / when faced with an unavoidable roadblock.

Who is with me?

SPAAAAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
I'll take one.
Let me know when you have it and I'll come collect :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Tommy Transalp on December 11, 2013, 08:59:01 am
PM sent
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: laurika on December 11, 2013, 09:02:42 am
How does the flipping of a numberplate work? Mine is the metal pressed one with pop rivets...cant stick anything on the back and just "flip it"...are u talking about the -now- illegal perspex numberplates? (in gauteng at least)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 11, 2013, 09:12:58 am
Hi Laurika

I've never fixed my numberplate since I got it.
I also have the Tin Plated type.

You can buy the plastic license plate holder from Builders for about R30-R40.
Some dealerships give them out for free.

Once you stick the decal over the reverse side of your legal sized plate, you can then just slide it out and in again.

It's easy to remove your pop rivets with a small drill bit.
Screw the legality of pop rivets vs Perspex plates etc.

The revolution will not be televised!

LOL


How does the flipping of a numberplate work? Mine is the metal pressed one with pop rivets...cant stick anything on the back and just "flip it"...are u talking about the -now- illegal perspex numberplates? (in gauteng at least)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: laurika on December 11, 2013, 09:27:02 am
Hi Laurika

I've never fixed my numberplate since I got it.
I also have the Tin Plated type.

You can buy the plastic license plate holder from Builders for about R30-R40.
Some dealerships give them out for free.

Once you stick the decal over the reverse side of your legal sized plate, you can then just slide it out and in again.

It's easy to remove your pop rivets with a small drill bit.
Screw the legality of pop rivets vs Perspex plates etc.

The revolution will not be televised!

LOL


How does the flipping of a numberplate work? Mine is the metal pressed one with pop rivets...cant stick anything on the back and just "flip it"...are u talking about the -now- illegal perspex numberplates? (in gauteng at least)
ja, i was forced to fit mine as i was crossing borders with it....so now i am stuck with it...i saw the roadbikers have a little lever attached to the plate..the just flip that and the numberplate turns to a horisontal angle...quite a thing.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Xchallenge on December 11, 2013, 09:32:34 am
I understand but don't feel as if it has to be a permanent fixture.
Cordless drills work wonders to remove pop rivets.

If you are prepared to spend R40, your "problem" can be easily fixed and will not give you any hassles at the border.

Yeah, I've seen those James Bond "flipper" numberplate things.
Personally I think spend R3000 to dodge the law is silly.

Rather save it towards potential Bail money or N infinite amount of little bribes :)

LOL

Hi Laurika

I've never fixed my numberplate since I got it.
I also have the Tin Plated type.

You can buy the plastic license plate holder from Builders for about R30-R40.
Some dealerships give them out for free.

Once you stick the decal over the reverse side of your legal sized plate, you can then just slide it out and in again.

It's easy to remove your pop rivets with a small drill bit.
Screw the legality of pop rivets vs Perspex plates etc.

The revolution will not be televised!

LOL


How does the flipping of a numberplate work? Mine is the metal pressed one with pop rivets...cant stick anything on the back and just "flip it"...are u talking about the -now- illegal perspex numberplates? (in gauteng at least)
ja, i was forced to fit mine as i was crossing borders with it....so now i am stuck with it...i saw the roadbikers have a little lever attached to the plate..the just flip that and the numberplate turns to a horisontal angle...quite a thing.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 20, 2013, 12:02:26 pm
so ...when is this protest actually going to happen and the million dollar question is will the turn out be bigger than that for the sandton city parking controversy....watch this space.....
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on December 20, 2013, 12:15:20 pm
25th Jan 2014 and if you want to make the effort to come and join , you will see that there are more than 2 bikes every time  . :pot:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on December 20, 2013, 01:56:47 pm
Thread is here   http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140621.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=140621.0)

leaving from BP Oasis on the N1 at Beyer's Naude Drive ( Cresta side) 9am

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=140621.0;attach=323498;image)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 20, 2013, 07:26:22 pm
so ...when is this protest actually going to happen and the million dollar question is will the turn out be bigger than that for the sandton city parking controversy....watch this space.....
hahaha. hope to see you there. you can ride upfront.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on December 21, 2013, 09:29:55 am
so ...when is this protest actually going to happen and the million dollar question is will the turn out be bigger than that for the sandton city parking controversy....watch this space.....
hahaha. hope to see you there. you can ride upfront.


That's cos I have a mighty tenere 660 ...the best damn bike in the world......I will make it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on December 21, 2013, 11:48:16 am
so ...when is this protest actually going to happen and the million dollar question is will the turn out be bigger than that for the sandton city parking controversy....watch this space.....
hahaha. hope to see you there. you can ride upfront.


That's cos I have a mighty tenere 660 ...the best damn bike in the world......I will make it.

as much as it pains me to say it youre right. great see you there!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 19, 2014, 02:31:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/_dA3kk-rfWQ#t/62
Title: Re:
Post by: dirtyXT on January 21, 2014, 03:39:20 pm
alright then fellas. 25th. joining BAT. don't be pissies lets show ICM he is just negative.
Title: Re:
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 21, 2014, 03:48:08 pm
alright then fellas. 25th. joining BAT. don't be pissies lets show ICM he is just negative.

what happens once everyone is there...we all stand around an complain about SANRAL or do we go an burn gantries ....
Title: Re:
Post by: Ganjora on January 21, 2014, 03:54:54 pm
what happens once everyone is there...we all stand around an complain about SANRAL or do we go an burn gantries ....

i see in your earlier reply (post 125) that you are going to make it.
i'm excited to hear so.
you can teach/show us how!!!
Title: Re:
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 21, 2014, 03:56:23 pm
what happens once everyone is there...we all stand around an complain about SANRAL or do we go an burn gantries ....

i see in your earlier reply (post 125) that you are going to make it.
i'm excited to hear so.
you can teach/show us how!!!


well thing is , I am not exactly sure how, I was hoping u ouens could show me...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 21, 2014, 03:59:53 pm
If all the truck pitch (40 odd). It will be coool


See u all there




Ohhhh yeah ... Fukk sanral
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 21, 2014, 04:03:02 pm
oh,  ICM,  don't be ridiculous.
i've read your other posts,  and am convinced you're the type of inspirational revolutionary we need in charge.
i cannot think of anything more boring that standing about a petrol station,  drinking coffee and dissing sanral,
before taking an orderly ride (with our numberplates on) down the etoll highway (to be billed for it later).
oh no,  and no again.
we need you to lead us into battle!!!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 21, 2014, 04:03:50 pm
I hear there is a little suspicious package scare at the Samrand Sanral offices - evacuated....  :3some:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Draadwerk on January 21, 2014, 04:08:45 pm
One user said: "Toll wars IV- The citizens strike back "

Was on the news just now. Suspected anthrax.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 21, 2014, 07:06:49 pm
oh,  ICM,  don't be ridiculous.
i've read your other posts,  and am convinced you're the type of inspirational revolutionary we need in charge.
i cannot think of anything more boring that standing about a petrol station,  drinking coffee and dissing sanral,
before taking an orderly ride (with our numberplates on) down the etoll highway (to be billed for it later).
oh no,  and no again.
we need you to lead us into battle!!!

I think BAT are sanral agents...takingus down the highway to incur more fees...mmmmmmm I wonder :lamer:

But no, dirtyxt strikes me as the Guevara of our revolution and you the Fidel....I shall follow...being a sheeple with no spine precludes me from leading this worthwhile cause
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 21, 2014, 07:47:55 pm
..I shall follow...being a sheeple with no spine precludes me from leading this worthwhile cause

humble too!!!!
i am now  more convinced than ever that you need to lead the revolution.
ICM, i am proud to stand behind you.
wrt your purchasing of an e-tag,
i now understand,  and your wisdom is genius,
you have to truly understand the beast to destroy it...
can we have some funky berets, or something to show we're the revolution - distinguish us from the "collaborators" type of thing?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 21, 2014, 08:06:03 pm
..I shall follow...being a sheeple with no spine precludes me from leading this worthwhile cause

humble too!!!!
i am now  more convinced than ever that you need to lead the revolution.
ICM, i am proud to stand behind you.
wrt your purchasing of an e-tag,
i now understand,  and your wisdom is genius,
you have to truly understand the beast to destroy it...
can we have some funky berets, or something to show we're the revolution - distinguish us from the "collaborators" type of thing?
:lol8:

something like this?

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DeeCeeBee on January 21, 2014, 09:12:19 pm
Looks like captain haddock from the tintin books...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 22, 2014, 07:00:35 am
..I shall follow...being a sheeple with no spine precludes me from leading this worthwhile cause

humble too!!!!
i am now  more convinced than ever that you need to lead the revolution.
ICM, i am proud to stand behind you.
wrt your purchasing of an e-tag,
i now understand,  and your wisdom is genius,
you have to truly understand the beast to destroy it...
can we have some funky berets, or something to show we're the revolution - distinguish us from the "collaborators" type of thing?
fantastic! our guest of honour is ICM. see you fellas sat. dont let us down ICM.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 22, 2014, 07:34:05 am
i have a bit of work i need to do on saturday am,  but will pass by to drink coffee and diss sanral with you fellows at the petrol station.
more importantly,  we need to discuss the way forward with comrade leader ICM.
as the comrade leader said,  we need to get rid of the gantries.
i suggest we make the angle grinder our revolution's symbol.
anyone second the suggestion?
maybe scarlet berets,  with a fist clenching an angle grinder?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Tommy Transalp on January 22, 2014, 08:06:40 am
i have a bit of work i need to do on saturday am,  but will pass by to drink coffee and diss sanral with you fellows at the petrol station.
more importantly,  we need to discuss the way forward with comrade leader ICM.
as the comrade leader said,  we need to get rid of the gantries.
i suggest we make the angle grinder our revolution's symbol.
anyone second the suggestion?
maybe scarlet berets,  with a fist clenching an angle grinder?
:laughing4: :imaposer: :lol8:.... I vote Ganjora as second commander-in -chief! But why get personally involved?.... send in unmanned attack drones. That way they can watch their high-tech gantrys getting destroyed with their own cameras! >:D :pot:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 22, 2014, 08:19:02 am
:laughing4: :imaposer: :lol8:.... I vote Ganjora as second commander-in -chief! But why get personally involved?.... send in unmanned attack drones. That way they can watch their high-tech gantrys getting destroyed with their own cameras! >:D :pot:

Tommy,  you're too kind.   
i'm not a leader,  just a good follower,  with an eye on fashion and style.
and,  i think the comrade leader's idea was to burn the gantries,
in which case the fist and grinder cannot be our symbol.
maybe a burgundy beret to offset the white gantriy amid yellow flames?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 22, 2014, 08:38:49 am
25th Jan 2014 and if you want to make the effort to come and join , you will see that there are more than 2 bikes every time  . :pot:

ja well, some okes are taking this " lets do nothing " resisatnce de passief to the extreme and wont pitch cos their stance is to do nothing...or maybe they gotta wash their hair.

I wil lbe there...t ofollow dirtyXT to the last breath or macdonalds, actually mcdonalds may be better
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 22, 2014, 08:55:22 am
 :3some: this is starting to sound like a party.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Lynn on January 22, 2014, 09:00:45 am
I'm in!  O0
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 22, 2014, 09:19:36 am
as we're meeting at 09h00,  maybe beer instead of coffee?
there's much more chance of me burning gantries down after a few beers,  rather than coffee.


Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 22, 2014, 09:42:01 am
as we're meeting at 09h00,  maybe beer instead of coffee?
there's much more chance of me burning gantries down after a few beers,  rather than coffee.



I'm meeting there at 8am. its 8am for 9am.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 22, 2014, 09:42:47 am
I'm in!  O0
:thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
nice one! Civil disobedience  :deal:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 22, 2014, 09:56:28 am
I'm meeting there at 8am. its 8am for 9am.

8 is early,  but i will make a turn with beer.
the important thing to remember when drinking is:  you cannot possibly drink all day,  unless you start 1st thing in the morning.
and another nice thing about drinking in the morning,  is that your beer generally stays cooler for longer.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: wiledog_X on January 22, 2014, 03:12:23 pm
i see there is a change for the start of the venue to accommodate more people...

https://www.facebook.com/TollCrusher?hc_location=timeline (https://www.facebook.com/TollCrusher?hc_location=timeline)

As a result we have had to organise a much larger starting point, one capable of holding over 5,000 vehicles. We will no longer be meeting at the BP Oasis on Beyers Naude, our change is for us to meet between 7:30am and 09:00am at the Portuguese hall (Crusaders Club House), cnr. Wemmer Pan Road and Victoria road, Johannesburg South. GPS S26• 14’ 28.3” E028• 03’ 71.1”
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: J-dog on January 22, 2014, 03:25:40 pm
Looks like captain haddock from the tintin books...

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 22, 2014, 04:00:40 pm
tell us,  what is the nature of the protest?
is it simply a group ride,  or are you guys going to be occupying all lanes on the highway,  going slowly,  and jamming up all the traffic behind the procession???
if the latter,  since the former is pointless,  why not have a staggered start,  or a simultaneous start from multiple points on the N1/N3?
imagine,  multiple rolling roadblocks...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 22, 2014, 10:25:25 pm
Latest info
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 06:17:51 am
ok cool. will be there then.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 08:14:19 am
tell us,  what is the nature of the protest?
is it simply a group ride,  or are you guys going to be occupying all lanes on the highway,  going slowly,  and jamming up all the traffic behind the procession???
if the latter,  since the former is pointless,  why not have a staggered start,  or a simultaneous start from multiple points on the N1/N3?
imagine,  multiple rolling roadblocks...


Is why u leader....and are we going to get police escort into La Rochelle  :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: GeeSA on January 23, 2014, 09:15:39 am
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 09:28:50 am
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Wildcoast on January 23, 2014, 09:32:38 am
Valid point, why display number plates?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: GeeSA on January 23, 2014, 09:46:25 am
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...



This is a very good point, and something I also thought of   ??? ??? ... but then again, if you're protesting e-Tolls, at least there will be proof of how many people were there, and also, what would be the point of protesting e-Tolls and riding on M1?

I don't have the answers to these questions, perhaps I will ask them on the FB page.

I think it would be better to ride to Pretoria on the dirt, and deliver a memorandum at the Union Buildings... or something? Then we can braai afterwards on the lawn.  >:D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on January 23, 2014, 09:48:19 am
Valid point, why display number plates?


It's your choice to display it or not !!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 09:55:15 am
Bikers Aligned with e-Tolls = BAT
i think i am going to protest against this 'protest' ride by SANRAL's secret agents,  the BAT people.
i have to wash my hair.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 23, 2014, 10:05:50 am
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...



that's more work for Sanral and more bills that we are not paying, so all good
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 10:28:50 am
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...


dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 10:36:36 am
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 23, 2014, 10:43:24 am
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 10:44:53 am
ok you make good points, but i don't think this a professional outfit though and its just some okes trying to make a difference. I'm surprised that they changed it 2 days before but i also trust its for the best.

 i don't think everyone will ignore you if you join up where suits you best. I'm happy to go to the new meeting point, doesn't bother me much.

join in where you can, I'm going for shits and giggles. I hope we are in a few surprises (Police/Media/Taxis/Traffic/wheelies/hotdogs) so I'm game to get into it from the start.

lets me know where and when you gonna join ill keep and eye out. and please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Teapot on January 23, 2014, 10:48:19 am
I'm going to the BAT ride on saturday 25th at Wemer pan.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 10:59:41 am
please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:

no chance of that,
i know him,  i do not know you.
i'll keep an eye out for a guy riding the same bike,  but who looks nothing like ICM.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 23, 2014, 11:12:16 am
Just be there and support please
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 11:54:41 am
please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:

no chance of that,
i know him,  i do not know you.
i'll keep an eye out for a guy riding the same bike,  but who looks nothing like ICM.

ja, the ugly ou with the same bike as ICM ....then must be dirtyxt cos he looks nothing like me  :biggrin:

Bundu, who is this "we" you keep referring to, I thought u cannot make it ....

wemmer pan is a bit of a mission considering my location, why not continue with the original WD protest OR is 3 bikes not enough
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 11:58:51 am
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle


Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:05:23 pm
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle


Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

but we must alos let the ppl know that we very very angry and cwoss at the e toll system hey ....put on a stern face an look very cross....

are we allowed to use cuss words , I mean does the permit permit this or must we refrain from such?

and what does the permit permit regarding ganjora an his beer?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:06:44 pm
my bike got very loud exhaust , is this permissible under the terms of the permit?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 12:08:33 pm
Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

comrade leader,  i'm with you.
we can wash our hair during this Bikers Aligned to e-Tolls 'protest',  and then go out stealthily,  in the middle of the night,  and do real revolutionary stuff.
burn the gantries!!!
fuck riding around with a permit,  a SABS approved numberplate on,  and a police escort.   WTF???
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:13:03 pm
Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

comrade leader,  i'm with you.
we can wash our hair during this process,  and then go out stealthily,  in the middle of the night,  and do real revolutionary stuff.
burn the gantries!!!
fuck riding around with a permit,  a SABS approved numberplate on,  and a police escort.


Viva Ganjora  viva ......bloody agents and their permits be damned.....

viva hair washing viva .......

now the ouens who go to the "protest" and under the auspices of the permit will ridicule us saying we spineless etc etc ...

irony ek se irony....

here's my 2 cents ......a number of these "protests" have been staged with no difference made at all..... foolish to think another protest along the same lines is going to make any difference to be honest ....time to escalate the protests in order to be noticed ....

but hey, who knows
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BiganDaft on January 23, 2014, 12:14:12 pm
Join the FB page and you will get a bit of understanding of the logistics involved getting this many people together in one place.
these rides are all done legally and with permits.
money is put down and if anything goes wrong the person whos name is on the permit is held liable.

Secondly, I am amazed at people who ride to Lesotho/Botswana/around the world, that are complaining  "oor, it's a extra few kms, don't think I can make it now".

FFS, stand up for something, make a bit of effort, or stay at home and STFU.

 :dousing:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:18:37 pm
Join the FB page and you will get a bit of understanding of the logistics involved getting this many people together in one place.
these rides are all done legally and with permits.
money is put down and if anything goes wrong the person whos name is on the permit is held liable.

Secondly, I am amazed at people who ride to Lesotho/Botswana/around the world, that are complaining  "oor, it's a extra few kms, don't think I can make it now".

FFS, stand up for something, make a bit of effort, or stay at home and STFU.

 :dousing:

but but but .....those few km's are on tollroads .......

just a question, if 5000 bikers happened to take to the highway at say 9 am at the Xavier road onramp , is this actually illegal?

don't understand the need for a permit ......a gathering of bikers is not illegal, its not 1988

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 12:40:46 pm
ja guys, i know its a bit of a inconvenience but just go with it this once. shouldnt be whinging about riding your bikes on a sat morning anyway...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 23, 2014, 12:50:49 pm
From James Sleigh
NOTICE: The following rules of engagement, (probably not the politically correct term) are as follows.

1. No alcohol to be consumed before the event. Needs no explaining.
2. No dangerous weapons will be allowed at the event.
(Latest Bill on a dangerous weapon is construed as any object that can be used to inflict injury) Yeah I know, but it is what it is.
3. No fake police or military uniforms may be worn.
4. No blocking of emergency services, in any form
5. No hate speech banners or enticement of violence
6. Note that the Marshals will wear reflective jacket, their word is law. Obey them please!

Admins of the other groups who plan to attend the BAT Event, post thsi on your pages and pin it so people are aware of the rules.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 23, 2014, 12:53:20 pm
Who can protest?
As we have seen, Section 17 of the Constitution of our country says that "everyone has the
right, peacefully and unarmed, to assemble, to demonstrate, to picket and to present
petitions”. And the Regulation of Gatherings Act says “every person has the right to
assemble with other persons and to express his views on any matter freely in public and to
enjoy the protection of the State while doing so”. So anyone and everyone can protest, even
if they are not a South African citizen. BUT, if there are 16 or more of you, then your protest
is called a gathering, and there are special rules that you have to follow.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:53:53 pm
what is the actual protest activity though, riding on the highways, sing kumba ya or what?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 12:54:58 pm
From James Sleigh
NOTICE: The following rules of engagement, (probably not the politically correct term) are as follows.

1. No alcohol to be consumed before the event. Needs no explaining.
2. No dangerous weapons will be allowed at the event.
(Latest Bill on a dangerous weapon is construed as any object that can be used to inflict injury) Yeah I know, but it is what it is.
3. No fake police or military uniforms may be worn.
4. No blocking of emergency services, in any form
5. No hate speech banners or enticement of violence
6. Note that the Marshals will wear reflective jacket, their word is law. Obey them please!

Admins of the other groups who plan to attend the BAT Event, post thsi on your pages and pin it so people are aware of the rules.

thanks for the confirmation of rules from Bikers Aligned to e-Toll.
i definitely have to wash my hair.
protest?  
what a farce...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:55:11 pm
Who can protest?
As we have seen, Section 17 of the Constitution of our country says that "everyone has the
right, peacefully and unarmed, to assemble, to demonstrate, to picket and to present
petitions”. And the Regulation of Gatherings Act says “every person has the right to
assemble with other persons and to express his views on any matter freely in public and to
enjoy the protection of the State while doing so”. So anyone and everyone can protest, even
if they are not a South African citizen. BUT, if there are 16 or more of you, then your protest
is called a gathering, and there are special rules that you have to follow.


So ganjora's idea is fucking brilliant, groups of 10 okes....that ganjra ou is farking clever I reckon ..viva ganjora leader viva..

so Bundu, you there on satudsya morning?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 23, 2014, 12:55:28 pm
PRESS RELEASE

B.A.T (Bikers Against Tolls)

Extended Protest Mass Ride in opposition to the Implementation of E-Tolls

Sandton, January 25th, 2014: Bikers Against Tolls (B.A.T) will be hosting a protest mass ride and taking to the highways to protest flawed and unjust E-toll system as well as the unfair Tolling of motorcycles on the National Highways.

This protest ride (Gauteng) has drawn the support from a multitude of motorists and currently over 5000 motor vehicles have committed their support in this protest, over and above the 3000 BAT members (Motorcycles) who will be in attendance.

The protests will run Nationally and take place in the following cities; Johannesburg; Kingwilliams Town; Port Elizabeth; Cape Town and Durban. These other Cities are joining in the National campaign in solidarity of the motorists in Gauteng and the impending implementation of Urban tolling in their own Cities.

The motorcycle community and fellow motorists have had enough of this injustice and arrogance of SANRAL and its representatives. With the continued media reports of the flagrant disregard and mismanagement of the county’s taxes, denounce any further wastage of our resources and demand the scrapping of Urban Tolling, and free passage for motorcycles on National Highways.

BAT will continue to escalate and expand our protest action to other cities until the will of the citizens of this country is respected, and the concept of Urban Tolling is scrapped.

BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:56:07 pm
From James Sleigh
NOTICE: The following rules of engagement, (probably not the politically correct term) are as follows.

1. No alcohol to be consumed before the event. Needs no explaining.
2. No dangerous weapons will be allowed at the event.
(Latest Bill on a dangerous weapon is construed as any object that can be used to inflict injury) Yeah I know, but it is what it is.
3. No fake police or military uniforms may be worn.
4. No blocking of emergency services, in any form
5. No hate speech banners or enticement of violence
6. Note that the Marshals will wear reflective jacket, their word is law. Obey them please!

Admins of the other groups who plan to attend the BAT Event, post thsi on your pages and pin it so people are aware of the rules.

thanks for the confirmation of rules from Bikers Aligned to e-Toll.
i definitely have to wash my hair.
protest?  
what a farce...

its no.1 hey ....  :lol8:

but u can have becks 0 %
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 12:56:41 pm
Who can protest?
As we have seen, Section 17 of the Constitution of our country says that "everyone has the
right, peacefully and unarmed, to assemble, to demonstrate, to picket and to present
petitions”. And the Regulation of Gatherings Act says “every person has the right to
assemble with other persons and to express his views on any matter freely in public and to
enjoy the protection of the State while doing so”. So anyone and everyone can protest, even
if they are not a South African citizen. BUT, if there are 16 or more of you, then your protest
is called a gathering, and there are special rules that you have to follow.


so my idea of groups of 10 was actually pretty good???
well if i had said 15 my idea would have been 50% better.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 12:57:23 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on January 23, 2014, 01:10:31 pm
WDF if you don't want to go then don't go , why try and convince other people not to go ?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 01:10:44 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form
lol. anyway noooo suprises here. found a way out have you. lets be honest you haven't supported this from the get go. in fact you are pro e-tolling. don't come I'm sure one person wont make a difference. ooooor just come along to see the sights. ignore this lot lads, see you sat.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 23, 2014, 01:12:13 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 01:13:10 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.
its only one maybe two guys Doug. dont worry about them. We will be there to support you.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 01:29:45 pm
oh no , u misjudge me kerels ..I still be there I reckon ....

but I don't support COSATU in the least....its like voting COPE and finding out they in bed with the FF+

since when is aligning oneself with less desirable crowds considered ok?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 01:32:25 pm
oh no , u misjudge me kerels ..I still be there I reckon ....

but I don't support COSATU in the least....its like voting COPE and finding out they in bed with the FF+

since when is aligning oneself with less desirable crowds considered ok?
:thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: great. I would love to shake hands with you.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 01:34:46 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.

term is lose

common enemy

permit

no booze

eish
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 23, 2014, 01:37:38 pm
Since u believe in e-tolls so much ICM i hope u pitch up. With your tag
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on January 23, 2014, 01:43:54 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.

term is lose

common enemy

permit

no booze

eish

It always amazes me that you get people who cannot organize a piss up in a bar, but they are always full of criticisms when somebody actually does something.

What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

WTF, if you want to come along, shut the fuck up and do so, if not, stay the fuck away
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 23, 2014, 01:46:45 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.

term is lose

common enemy

permit

no booze

eish

It always amazes me that you get people who cannot organize a piss up in a bar, but they are always full of criticisms when somebody actually does something.

What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

WTF, if you want to come along, shut the fuck up and do so, if not, stay the fuck away

bikerjan, you should be the comrade leader , you have shown more piss an vinegar in one post that in the previous 10 pages.....lets go burn gantries
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 23, 2014, 01:58:11 pm
Quote from: link=topic=140045.msg2744979#msg2744979 date=1390474528



BAT is in full support of COSATU The Justice Project SA and OUTA. We will not relent in our efforts to oppose and dismantle unjust laws or regulations.

I kind of draw the line here ,, I do not support COSATU in any form

and thats how we loose battles, focus on what seperates us instead of focusing on the common enemy.

term is lose

common enemy

permit

no booze

eish

It always amazes me that you get people who cannot organize a piss up in a bar, but they are always full of criticisms when somebody actually does something.

What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

WTF, if you want to come along, shut the fuck up and do so, if not, stay the fuck away

bikerjan, you should be the comrade leader , you have shown more piss an vinegar in one post that in the previous 10 pages.....lets go burn gantries
always gotta be that guy. ah ICM. bless your cotton socks
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 23, 2014, 01:58:38 pm
What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

WTF, if you want to come along, shut the fuck up and do so, if not, stay the fuck away

i have not bought an e-tag
i use the highways with no numberplate

bikerjan, you should be the comrade leader , you have shown more piss an vinegar in one post that in the previous 10 pages.....lets go burn gantries

i agree,  bikerjan (even though he rides a bmw) should accompany us on a gantry burning.
fuck the harley davidson style group ride with road captains etc.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: PierreO on January 23, 2014, 02:32:19 pm
What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

WTF, if you want to come along, shut the fuck up and do so, if not, stay the fuck away

i have not bought an e-tag
i use the highways with no numberplate

bikerjan, you should be the comrade leader , you have shown more piss an vinegar in one post that in the previous 10 pages.....lets go burn gantries

i agree,  bikerjan (even though he rides a bmw) should accompany us on a gantry burning.
fuck the harley davidson style group ride with road captains etc.


You rebels go and burn those things !!!!  :laughing4: then we and our leader can go to the pub
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 23, 2014, 02:48:51 pm
Shaun Pfister Wrote----
Newsflash .......it is your option to cover your number plate if u want on the run ,Sanral will not like that but its legal for the duration of the Mass Ride !!!!!!! Either way you don't pay !!!!!

Route will be clockwise trip around the ring road as before. Speed planned 70km/h and to occupy all the lanes. Time estimated to complete 1h30min.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 23, 2014, 11:42:56 pm
Phaaa, have to agree with ICM, a bunch of bikes riding around the ring raod on a Saturday at 70km/h is really going to disrupt things and bring the countries economy to a grinding halt and make Govt, sit up and take notie....yeah right.
Waste of time and energy, if you don't count the fact that it is a good excuse for a ride and a coffee with the maaitjies, no more no less.
Protesting is like jumping....white men can't.  ::)

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 05:12:44 am
its really a case if showing our displeasure with the government. especially with elections round the corner.  media will hopefully do us a favour and cover it. putting pressure and embarrassing the leaders into action. I don't think bringing the countries economy to a halt is helping anyone. if you can suggest a better approach let us know cause staying at home and whinging will achieve squat.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 05:43:46 am
its really a case if showing our displeasure with the government. especially with elections round the corner.  media will hopefully do us a favour and cover it. putting pressure and embarrassing the leaders into action.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
hi
you must be new to SA,
welcome,  and i hope you enjoy your visit.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 06:08:26 am
What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

oh ja, 
forgot that i also had an illegal numberplate made up,  and ride around at the risk of jail/bike impoundment,
it's my way of giving the middle finger when i go under their gantries.

(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt58/GanjoraD7/20131205_172514_zpscd17254d.jpg) (http://s597.photobucket.com/user/GanjoraD7/media/20131205_172514_zpscd17254d.jpg.html)

so,  bikerjan,  what the fuck have you done?
oh ja,  you're going on a ride with your SABS approved numberplateplate on,  and collecting e-toll charges there and back.
well done.    :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 24, 2014, 06:09:53 am
its really a case if showing our displeasure with the government. especially with elections round the corner.  media will hopefully do us a favour and cover it. putting pressure and embarrassing the leaders into action.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
hi
you must be new to SA,
welcome,  and i hope you enjoy your visit.

Ja née,the mind boggles....


Bikes riding around gonna embarrass them, fok ek lag lekker
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 06:10:28 am
oops,  and apologies,  bikerjan.
i forgot to remind you how shit your bmw is,  and how awesome my KTM is.    :deal:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 06:38:26 am
its really a case if showing our displeasure with the government. especially with elections round the corner.  media will hopefully do us a favour and cover it. putting pressure and embarrassing the leaders into action.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
hi
you must be new to SA,
welcome,  and i hope you enjoy your visit.

Ja née,the mind boggles....


Bikes riding around gonna embarrass them, fok ek lag lekker

sure come election time surely a mass protest by a bunch of whiteys cant portray an image of a happy country, protests happening in the mining industry etc etc. lets face it you guys just are negative. when the taxis protested they got exemption. because they stuck together right? they government took notice didn't they? so they listened to a protest right? so your infinite wisdom on what will work and wont is a little flawed and based on your narrow viewpoints. so ja just because your attitudes are nothing can be done i give up and accept what i get given doesn't mean we cant have a crack.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 24, 2014, 06:46:28 am
Quote
if you can suggest a better approach let us know cause staying at home and whinging will achieve squat.] if you can suggest a better approach let us know cause staying at home and whinging will achieve squat.

Actually I do, funny you should mention it.
According to BAT, 5000 vehicles, not including the 3000 BAT members = 8000 vehicles countrywide.
R100 petrol each for the ride = R800 000 that you could have donated to OUTA to fight this thing in court, would have a hell of a lot more impact.
Simple really.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 06:50:39 am
very good idea actually, i like that. why don't you start a thread then and get it going then? stating a wonderful idea and not having the means to implement it is not very brilliant, getting out there to show your support still trumps that not so very brilliant ideas that will always remain just that ideas. unless you do something with it. you support this thread and ill support your initiative!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: KiLRoy on January 24, 2014, 06:51:39 am
I still think a mass ride to Sanral's HQ and throwing the fucks with eggs and shit will have a better effect.  BAT must take notice - next one :thumleft:

Coordinated approach to throw shit and eggs at all their kiosks too.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 06:58:13 am
I still think a mass ride to Sanral's HQ and throwing the fucks with eggs and shit will have a better effect.  BAT must take notice - next one :thumleft:

Coordinated approach to throw shit and eggs at all their kiosks too.
nice one, i think Ganjora and ICM might be positive about that one. they get to mess things up in real time!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 07:04:41 am
I still think a mass ride to Sanral's HQ and throwing the fucks with eggs and shit will have a better effect.  BAT must take notice - next one :thumleft:

Coordinated approach to throw shit and eggs at all their kiosks too.
nice one, i think Ganjora and ICM might be positive about that one. they get to mess things up in real time!

this sounds more up my alley.
we must make sure it is not sanctioned/organised by Bikers Aligned to e-Tolls (BAT),
then we can drink beer,  and not have any road captains.
we can go in groups of 10,  with eggs or a fresh turd in a brown paper bag,  and pelt them with shit.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 24, 2014, 07:06:34 am
XT, don't get me wrong, no one hates these SOB's more than I do, and they can pry thier money from my cold dead hand, because they aint getting a cent out of me, all you have to do is look at my posts on this issue to know exactly where I stand.

If you guys want to go for a Saturday morning jolly, be my guest, if I had a bike running I might join in, no problems there, all I am saying is that it is going to have about as much impact as shooting a pellet gun at a freight train.
There is a huge difference between the taxis and a few whiteys on bikes, taxis stand by thier convictions, whiteys don't, they are too poep scared, that is why Govt. listen to taxis and not to whitey.
The rules of protest are designed to make sure it has minimal impact on society so those not interested can get on with thier lives.
And like good little whiteys you all obey the rules, good for you.
Taxi dude, is exactly the opposite, he will take to the highways at 7:30 on a Monday morning and park his taxis under the gantries across all lanes, bringing the entire system to a grinding halt.
Are you prepared to be arrested for your convictions, do you believe that strongly in it that you would say rules be damned and go to jail......taxi dude will, and that is the difference, and that sure as hell makes news.

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 07:18:20 am
XT, don't get me wrong, no one hates these SOB's more than I do, and they can pry thier money from my cold dead hand, because they aint getting a cent out of me, all you have to do is look at my posts on this issue to know exactly where I stand.

If you guys want to go for a Saturday morning jolly, be my guest, if I had a bike running I might join in, no problems there, all I am saying is that it is going to have about as much impact as shooting a pellet gun at a freight train.
There is a huge difference between the taxis and a few whiteys on bikes, taxis stand by thier convictions, whiteys don't, they are too poep scared, that is why Govt. listen to taxis and not to whitey.
The rules of protest are designed to make sure it has minimal impact on society so those not interested can get on with thier lives.
And like good little whiteys you all obey the rules, good for you.
Taxi dude, is exactly the opposite, he will take to the highways at 7:30 on a Monday morning and park his taxis under the gantries across all lanes, bringing the entire system to a grinding halt.
Are you prepared to be arrested for your convictions, do you believe that strongly in it that you would say rules be damned and go to jail......taxi dude will, and that is the difference, and that sure as hell makes news.


sure fair enough, well you said it we don't stand together. some are trying to. sure the impact is not going to change the world but remember most of the media houses are mostly run by the whiteys of old. so with good coverage we are giving the DA something to use in their campaigning. every little but counts. doing nothing wont count for zip. so we not trying to ruin the economy or disrupt society to a standstill. its about awareness. changing attitudes is hard. i think the timing is spot on in terms of the elections and that after madiba passed we can put the medias focus back onto this. certain guys are going over the top about burning down gantries and vandalism and other vigilante ideas that will never happen etc. that just isn't practical as who in their right mind will risk their individual futures by breaking the law outright. in any event the gantries will get repaired at our cost and will achieve really stuff all. we have created a platform to speak and showcase our position. get involved, I personally don't appreciate the sheer genius it takes to point out the shortfalls of this. anyone can do that. real clever guys can find the positives and point that out. (not specifically aimed at you just a general observation on some negative vibes around this.)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 24, 2014, 07:24:29 am
Ohhh goodness , i have just realised , i have taken the pissy approach , by protesting , and not capitulating to the locusts is wrong


I am going to follow  ICM's'tough stance , and stand up for what i think is right , and buy an e-tag .........
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 24, 2014, 08:14:19 am
I still think a mass ride to Sanral's HQ and throwing the fucks with eggs and shit will have a better effect.  BAT must take notice - next one :thumleft:

Coordinated approach to throw shit and eggs at all their kiosks too.
nice one, i think Ganjora and ICM might be positive about that one. they get to mess things up in real time!

this sounds more up my alley.
we must make sure it is not sanctioned/organised by Bikers Aligned to e-Tolls (BAT),
then we can drink beer,  and not have any road captains.
we can go in groups of 10,  with eggs or a fresh turd in a brown paper bag,  and pelt them with shit.

to hell with groups of 10 , more more more and to hell with permits...even if we 17.......actually lets be 17 that would be really naughty hey and flaunt it int the face of sanral and I think they would be intimidated cos we not going to ask for no pussy permit.....


Kilroy, look forward to seeing you at the BAT event tomorrow morning my good man
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 24, 2014, 08:26:00 am
XT, I wish you guys well, and I really do hope to see you on the six o'clock news.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: KiLRoy on January 24, 2014, 08:38:19 am
I still think a mass ride to Sanral's HQ and throwing the fucks with eggs and shit will have a better effect.  BAT must take notice - next one :thumleft:

Coordinated approach to throw shit and eggs at all their kiosks too.
nice one, i think Ganjora and ICM might be positive about that one. they get to mess things up in real time!

this sounds more up my alley.
we must make sure it is not sanctioned/organised by Bikers Aligned to e-Tolls (BAT),
then we can drink beer,  and not have any road captains.
we can go in groups of 10,  with eggs or a fresh turd in a brown paper bag,  and pelt them with shit.

to hell with groups of 10 , more more more and to hell with permits...even if we 17.......actually lets be 17 that would be really naughty hey and flaunt it int the face of sanral and I think they would be intimidated cos we not going to ask for no pussy permit.....


Kilroy, look forward to seeing you at the BAT event tomorrow morning my good man

Sorry, my wife had a op in the week and I have to ferry children around tomorrow.  Next time....   But be strong - dont get an etag, and dont pay.  Thats what will make the difference.

BTW - i'm sorry to report that my employer organised a Sanral registration day/kiosk at work.  Seems they are targeting the workplace to get people to register.  Big business in SA is letting us down...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 08:43:58 am
XT, I wish you guys well, and I really do hope to see you on the six o'clock news.  :thumleft:
:thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: fantastic thanks mate, i like the attitude. i hope so too. ill be the guy with the NO ETOLL GP plate.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 08:45:53 am
ill be the guy with the NO ETOLL GP plate.

are you drunk or mad?
there's no way in fuck i'm lending you my bike.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Dogboxelectric on January 24, 2014, 08:48:57 am
There are already 5000+ people gathering at the Portuguese Club(Crusaders Clubhouse) this Saturday 25th, they will be riding up to Comarro and getting on the Highway there.

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: KiLRoy on January 24, 2014, 08:49:16 am
time?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Mr Zog on January 24, 2014, 08:50:42 am

BTW - i'm sorry to report that my employer organised a Sanral registration day/kiosk at work.  Seems they are targeting the workplace to get people to register.  Big business in SA is letting us down...

I suppose organising for Scamral to have a kiosk at work is one thing, but actually buing the etag is another.

If all the employees refuse to buy, them maybe the employers will sit up and take note?

Scamral on the other hand... they to farking dumb to take any notice.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Dogboxelectric on January 24, 2014, 09:04:02 am
time?

They are meeting at 7:30 and the ride starts at 9am

From their FB page.

OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO e-TOLL PROTEST

Who would have thought that so many South Africans from all walks of life could stand together for a common cause? We never expected such an unbelievable response to our e-toll protest that is taking place on Saturday the 25th of January.

As a result we have had to organise a much larger starting point, one capable of holding over 5,000 vehicles. We will no longer be meeting at the BP Oasis on Beyers Naude, our change is for us to meet between 7:30am and 09:00am at the Portuguese hall (Crusaders Club House), cnr. Wemmer Pan Road and Victoria road, Johannesburg South. GPS S26• 14’ 28.3” E028• 03’ 71.1”

This venue is large enough and has additional ground to accommodate the incredible support.

The route will be from the Portuguese Hall to the Comarro on ramp, from there we head North as per plan and end back at the Portuguese hall. Please note you can leave the protest at anytime as to not miss your offramp back home.

I am sure that you can all appreciate the logistical nightmare of not only coordinating around 5,000 members of the public, but taking all other factors, including the permits and legal implications into consideration.
This protest is about every single one of you, this is a call to stand united and show our clear and unadulterated contempt for a system that we did not ask for, that we do not need, and we are not going to pay for.

We would like to take this opportunity to apologise for the late notice of venue change. We however had no way of anticipating the overwhelming response that we have had.

Again, thank you for your continued support.

If you are attending the protest drive/ public invoice burning on Saturday, please note the rules...

NOTICE: The following rules of engagement, (probably not the politically correct term) are as follows.

1. No alcohol to be consumed before the event. Needs no explaining.
2. No dangerous weapons will be allowed at the event.
(Latest Bill on a dangerous weapon is construed as any object that can be used to inflict injury) Yeah I know, but it is what it is.
3. No fake police or military uniforms may be worn.
4. No blocking of emergency services, in any form
5. No hate speech banners or enticement of violence
6. Note that the Marshals will wear reflective jackets, their word is law. Obey them please!

Please, everybody, adhere to the rules and nobody do anything stupid or illegal.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 09:06:05 am
time?

They are meeting at 7:30 and the ride starts at 9am
thanks boet, we are joining them, and are apart of the BAT ride.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 09:07:51 am
ill be the guy with the NO ETOLL GP plate.

are you drunk or mad?
there's no way in fuck i'm lending you my bike.
well im not drunk so ill go with mad. this may come as a shock to you but i have the same plates... see? its destiny that you join in. you cant deny fate like that. see you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Skootaboy on January 24, 2014, 09:11:54 am
I'll be there!
Does a paintball gun qualify as a dangerous weapon?
We need to splatter the camera lens's with goo
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 24, 2014, 09:15:12 am
where Portuguese hall?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 09:21:26 am
where Portuguese hall?
Crusaders Club House (Portuguese Hall) Crn Wemmerpan Rd and Victoria Road.

https://maps.google.co.za/maps?q=Corner+Wemmer+Pan+Road+%26+Victoria+Road&hl=en&ll=-26.235592%2C28.060906&spn=0.016764%2C0.015278&sll=-26.01672%2C28.127379&sspn=4.29901%2C3.911133&hnear=Victoria+Rd%2C+Johannesburg+South%2C+City+of+Johannesburg+Metropolitan+Municipality%2C+Gauteng+2197&t=m&z=16&iwloc=lyrftr%3Am%2C5371832166613809879%2C-26.238151%2C28.062344
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 24, 2014, 09:27:01 am
well im not drunk so ill go with mad. this may come as a shock to you but i have the same plates... see? its destiny that you join in. you cant deny fate like that. see you tomorrow.

oh dear,
even the fake numberplates are being cloned.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 09:37:19 am
where Portuguese hall?
Crusaders Club House (Portuguese Hall) Crn Wemmerpan Rd and Victoria Road.

https://maps.google.co.za/maps?q=Corner+Wemmer+Pan+Road+%26+Victoria+Road&hl=en&ll=-26.235592%2C28.060906&spn=0.016764%2C0.015278&sll=-26.01672%2C28.127379&sspn=4.29901%2C3.911133&hnear=Victoria+Rd%2C+Johannesburg+South%2C+City+of+Johannesburg+Metropolitan+Municipality%2C+Gauteng+2197&t=m&z=16&iwloc=lyrftr%3Am%2C5371832166613809879%2C-26.238151%2C28.062344
GPS S26• 14’ 28.3” E028• 03’ 71.1”
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BiganDaft on January 24, 2014, 11:18:14 am
Just a note from the BAT Facebook page:

If any split groups are doing their own ride, BAT can get into trouble and all the effort of doing organized protesting is out the door. I dont think some really understands or cares about the extent that goes into this. If people ride their own ride you can kiss a legal protest from BAT goodbye.

James and Shaun can stand on their heads and piss into the wind, JMPD will NEVER EVER give us another permit. Anyone meeting at BP Oasis because of flyers given out must depart from there in a NON protesting manner straight to Crusaders. From there we ALL depart together. Thank you Grant Stockdale for fetching the guys and doing the extra effort.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 24, 2014, 11:50:39 am
Just a note from the BAT Facebook page:

If any split groups are doing their own ride, BAT can get into trouble and all the effort of doing organized protesting is out the door. I dont think some really understands or cares about the extent that goes into this. If people ride their own ride you can kiss a legal protest from BAT goodbye.

James and Shaun can stand on their heads and piss into the wind, JMPD will NEVER EVER give us another permit. Anyone meeting at BP Oasis because of flyers given out must depart from there in a NON protesting manner straight to Crusaders. From there we ALL depart together. Thank you Grant Stockdale for fetching the guys and doing the extra effort.
ok cool thanks, guess the guys who are inconvenienced by the location change will just have to pull finger and come to the start. im waiting for the whinge brigade to weigh in now. see you there!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Edd on January 24, 2014, 03:00:43 pm
Just a note from the BAT Facebook page:

If any split groups are doing their own ride, BAT can get into trouble and all the effort of doing organized protesting is out the door. I dont think some really understands or cares about the extent that goes into this. If people ride their own ride you can kiss a legal protest from BAT goodbye.

James and Shaun can stand on their heads and piss into the wind, JMPD will NEVER EVER give us another permit. Anyone meeting at BP Oasis because of flyers given out must depart from there in a NON protesting manner straight to Crusaders. From there we ALL depart together. Thank you Grant Stockdale for fetching the guys and doing the extra effort.
ok cool thanks, guess the guys who are inconvenienced by the location change will just have to pull finger and come to the start. im waiting for the whinge brigade to weigh in now. see you there!

See you there DirtyXt.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on January 24, 2014, 03:12:23 pm
What have you and Ganjora done to date ICM, if you are so opposed to the etol sysytems, have you arrange a protest, beer drinking session to discuss the problem, panty comparison session?

oh ja, 
forgot that i also had an illegal numberplate made up,  and ride around at the risk of jail/bike impoundment,
it's my way of giving the middle finger when i go under their gantries.

(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt58/GanjoraD7/20131205_172514_zpscd17254d.jpg) (http://s597.photobucket.com/user/GanjoraD7/media/20131205_172514_zpscd17254d.jpg.html)

so,  bikerjan,  what the fuck have you done?
oh ja,  you're going on a ride with your SABS approved numberplateplate on,  and collecting e-toll charges there and back.
well done.    :thumleft:

Neither of my personal vehicles have an ETag, Neither of my company's vehicles have an etag ( 25 vehicles). 

My bike do not have a number plate

AND I am not constantly whining and criticizing the efforts from other people, but am giving them my full support.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 24, 2014, 03:25:09 pm
Just a note from the BAT Facebook page:

If any split groups are doing their own ride, BAT can get into trouble and all the effort of doing organized protesting is out the door. I dont think some really understands or cares about the extent that goes into this. If people ride their own ride you can kiss a legal protest from BAT goodbye.

James and Shaun can stand on their heads and piss into the wind, JMPD will NEVER EVER give us another permit. Anyone meeting at BP Oasis because of flyers given out must depart from there in a NON protesting manner straight to Crusaders. From there we ALL depart together. Thank you Grant Stockdale for fetching the guys and doing the extra effort.
ok cool thanks, guess the guys who are inconvenienced by the location change will just have to pull finger and come to the start. im waiting for the whinge brigade to weigh in now. see you there!

unless its raining hey ,,then we go pub
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on January 24, 2014, 03:39:14 pm
Just a note from the BAT Facebook page:

If any split groups are doing their own ride, BAT can get into trouble and all the effort of doing organized protesting is out the door. I dont think some really understands or cares about the extent that goes into this. If people ride their own ride you can kiss a legal protest from BAT goodbye.

James and Shaun can stand on their heads and piss into the wind, JMPD will NEVER EVER give us another permit. Anyone meeting at BP Oasis because of flyers given out must depart from there in a NON protesting manner straight to Crusaders. From there we ALL depart together. Thank you Grant Stockdale for fetching the guys and doing the extra effort.
ok cool thanks, guess the guys who are inconvenienced by the location change will just have to pull finger and come to the start. im waiting for the whinge brigade to weigh in now. see you there!

unless its raining hey ,,then we go pub

Looks like the weather is going to play along
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Wildcoast on January 25, 2014, 05:39:06 am
Okay I am in, let me go and chain lube and cocoa my number plate  :ricky:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 25, 2014, 05:45:19 am
BOOM! excited now... this looks to be a biggy! viva la resistance! see even the whiney whitey folk are revolting!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 25, 2014, 07:07:00 am
Crucifixion or roman holiday?

Storm the Bastille or leisurely ride around jhb?

Storm the Bastille, only joking leisurely ride


Title: Re:
Post by: Lynn on January 25, 2014, 08:29:53 am
Icecreamman, we can see ur bike, but we can't see u!

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Title: Re:
Post by: Ganjora on January 25, 2014, 12:09:32 pm
Icecreamman, we can see ur bike, but we can't see u!

Sent from my mind using 1 finger

sure it's not dirtyXT's bike?
his is the same as ICM's,  but they look nothing like each other.
Title: Re:
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 25, 2014, 12:51:32 pm
Icecreamman, we can see ur bike, but we can't see u!

Sent from my mind using 1 finger

sure it's not dirtyXT's bike?
his is the same as ICM's,  but they look nothing like each other.

Cos my bike handsome and. Blue

Nice day out ,the cagers were implementing yr rolling roadblock idea ganjora and it was spectacular.....

Dirtyxt and Lynn, nice couple good to meet you

Viva la rpesistance viva
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: alanB on January 25, 2014, 01:23:15 pm
Impressive turn-out  :thumleft:

Congratulations to the organisers, very well run, was a pleasure to take part!

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on January 25, 2014, 01:38:46 pm
Thanks to all the Dogs who joined, saw quite a few stickers out there today, a couple of people I know,  and one dude who had 2 wild dogs hanging out the back of his topbox
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Jag man on January 25, 2014, 01:48:38 pm
Saw lots of dogs.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 25, 2014, 01:55:12 pm
yup saw a few pups aswell  :thumleft: to everyone who participated
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on January 25, 2014, 02:10:14 pm
nice ride (bit boring though) and appreciated the inconvenienced cagers support, waiting at the on-ramps - Let's hope many will decide not to pay for this crap

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Skootaboy on January 25, 2014, 05:06:44 pm
Fookin impressive turnout for the E-Toll defiance ride today
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 25, 2014, 07:47:44 pm
next month  again ....... be there
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: vigilant on January 25, 2014, 09:17:15 pm
That was a jol!

Thanks to the organisers, well done!!

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BiganDaft on January 25, 2014, 11:07:16 pm
Just seen on FB that they recon there were 2 500 bikes and about 2 000 cars.
The convoy streched 27 kms.
I for one am proud to have been part of one of the biggest mass actions in South Africa

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Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 26, 2014, 05:51:16 am
Well done chaps.  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 26, 2014, 05:58:31 am
not sure if any of you heard the radio interview with the organiser.
seems he thinks you were all supporting "him" in "his" protest.
bit arrogant.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Tommy Transalp on January 26, 2014, 06:41:31 am
I saw Nazir on tv just now, saying there's "no law and democracy" in this country!??...... Who's the faarkin ou's that started all this shit without even a vote/referendum? in the first place...... bloody hypocrite!  :deal:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on January 26, 2014, 09:58:42 am
Ya Ganjora, I heard that, had to do a double take, did seem pretty self serving.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Edd on January 26, 2014, 11:29:45 am
yup saw a few pups aswell  :thumleft: to everyone who participated


Nice turnout, saw a few wd stickers. Well done chaps, nice meeting you Punisher :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 26, 2014, 05:19:03 pm
yup saw a few pups aswell  :thumleft: to everyone who participated


Nice turnout, saw a few wd stickers. Well done chaps, nice meeting you Punisher :thumleft:


 nice meeting you to sir   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on January 27, 2014, 07:00:46 am
I didn't see Punisher there.....  But in amongst that number of bikes, not really surprising!  :thumleft:

Saw quite a few WD stickers - well done people!!!

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: BikerJan on January 27, 2014, 07:35:15 am
Thanks to all the marshalls and the people who organized the protest ride. I was amased at the feeleing of cameradie and the discipline of the bikers.

I enjoyed the protest tremendiously, will definately do it again
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 27, 2014, 07:57:09 am
truly impressive how many of you supported that BAT guy is his protest...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 27, 2014, 08:29:34 am
truly impressive how many of you supported that BAT guy is his protest...
:laughing4: :imaposer: lets not split hairs. i think you might of been the only guy who took offense to that, im sure it took a lot of work from him, and cant really blaming him for taking a little bit of ownership. if you came you would have enjoyed his speech, he spoke at length about how all this wouldn't be possible without our support. teary eyed were we all...  :deal: so lets build it up not break it down. anyone can break things down.

anyhoo, objective achieved. if you focus on the intent and the outcome and forget the teeny slip up i say this was a win.

Found ICM!!! haha good to put a face to a name finally. went looking for him. pity you weren't there Ganjora.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Ganjora on January 27, 2014, 08:32:12 am
pity you weren't there Ganjora.

not to worry mate,
while you were supporting the BAT guy's protest,  i was keeping the wheels of industry greased and turning.
and it worked,  you're at work today...
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 27, 2014, 08:32:57 am
Quote from:  link=topic=140045.msg2748715#msg2748715 date=1390800915
Thanks to all the marshalls and the people who organized the protest ride. I was amased at the feeleing of cameradie and the discipline of the bikers.


eish, this one don't sit nicely with me , we sposed to burn the gantries....

Ganjora, please take over an make us militant , I am embarresed to say the cagers behave more hooligan than the bikers
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: dirtyXT on January 27, 2014, 08:36:50 am
pity you weren't there Ganjora.

not to worry mate,
while you were supporting the BAT guy's protest,  i was keeping the wheels of industry greased and turning.
and it worked,  you're at work today...
:thumleft: good i was looking for a scapegoat as to who to blame for me being at work today.

now thats done, anyone of you volunteer to get some paint ball guns and shoot down some cameras? will have to disguise yoruselves and bikes and find a late quiet night? i would imagine getting caught will become a urban legend and probably a big fine / or jail time. if we get caught that is. talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DRAZIL on January 27, 2014, 04:39:06 pm
pity you weren't there Ganjora.

not to worry mate,
while you were supporting the BAT guy's protest,  i was keeping the wheels of industry greased and turning.
and it worked,  you're at work today...
:thumleft: good i was looking for a scapegoat as to who to blame for me being at work today.

now thats done, anyone of you volunteer to get some paint ball guns and shoot down some cameras? will have to disguise yoruselves and bikes and find a late quiet night? i would imagine getting caught will become a urban legend and probably a big fine / or jail time. if we get caught that is. talk is cheap.

may I suggest you refill the paint balls with acid (Keep frozen ) or some liquid that will damage the lenses.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: punisher on January 27, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
I didn't see Punisher there.....  But in amongst that number of bikes, not really surprising!  :thumleft:

Saw quite a few WD stickers - well done people!!!

 :thumleft:

missed you mate 
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 03, 2014, 02:21:52 pm
I see the taxi protest has spiralled out of control.....did not see that one coming....

but hey, its us rough an tough bikers that should spiral out of control instead of meekly circulating on the ring road , and we not even allowed to dop first....
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: XTFREAK on February 03, 2014, 03:00:19 pm
I was caught in the taxi drama at the Buccleuch plaza.  Was fun but got a bit worried. Saw a baseball bat get properly broken over a guys head but the guy just carried on running.  Big respect.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on February 03, 2014, 03:11:05 pm
I was caught in the taxi drama at the Buccleuch plaza.  Was fun but got a bit worried. Saw a baseball bat get properly broken over a guys head but the guy just carried on running.  Big respect.

yip, those guys are just as tough as ICM  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: XTFREAK on February 03, 2014, 03:38:58 pm
I heard that Chuck was even nervous of ICM??!!
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Bundu on February 03, 2014, 03:44:46 pm
I heard that Chuck was even nervous of ICM??!!

makes sense! he's indefeat-able with his e-tag
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on February 03, 2014, 06:00:27 pm

Next ride...

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=144199.0#new (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=144199.0#new)


(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=144199.0;attach=334716;image)
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 20, 2014, 12:15:27 pm

Next ride...

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=144199.0#new (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=144199.0#new)


(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=144199.0;attach=334716;image)

is this still on, our protest team have gone a lil quiet here ..... hope that's due to them working out fiendish wasy to tackle sanral with devilish cunning
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on February 20, 2014, 01:08:16 pm
postponed due to issues with the permits after there were some transgressions during the last ride.

Will see if I can find the relevant info & cross post
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: IceCreamMan on February 20, 2014, 01:11:11 pm
postponed due to issues with the permits after there were some transgressions during the last ride.

Will see if I can find the relevant info & cross post

some transgressions you say...... not from a bunch of bikers surely???

to fuck with the permissions , lets just do it .......

Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: DouglasN on February 20, 2014, 01:11:30 pm
From James.

There is a swarm of fly's in the ointment right now and we have been advised to postpone our protest till a later date. There are a number of reasons for this and i'll try clarify as best I can, there might be some reading between the lines required, but in essence this is the gist of the issues.

With the last run, there were a number of violations that breached our permit. Some within our control others not, but the main issues were the use of alcohol before the ride, alleged claim people were stopping on the freeway and urinating on the streets, and mooning the gantries
.

We have been advised that our permit will be rejected, and that will mean us going to court to fight it. We do not have the funds to do that. However should we go ahead and win this, the story coming from the back benches is that it is a fait accompi that the hosts will be arrested if any violation of any law or by laws are observed. That means a 3 day stint for Shaun and myself. This is the way they plan to set an example of us. The arrests will be groundless, but will be carried out regardless. This is not BS, it comes from the horses mouth.

We are therefore postponing the protest in JHB, but all other BAT regions protests will continue as planned. A new date will be set, and the other group Admins and ourselves will sit down to discuss how to clean up the different FB and Web pages. There is a concept that we are hiding the other groups from the authorities, and some how planning to subvert the protest. We all now its BS, but SANRAL has long arms and deep pockets.

We are also to ensure that all groups that will be attending the new date (to be announced) must do so under a single banner. The Sec Police have been monitoring the various pages, and gathering info to shut us down. Our new JMPD host isnt a friendly guy and proved his bias and attitude at the last run, we can say that we will be apposed at every turn in the future. We need to present a clean act if we are to continue. Which we will, there is no going back on our protests, but we need to fix
whats broken.

Keep an eye out for the change of date, it will be announced as soon as we can find a date and are happy they have nothing on us, and that what went wrong in the past will be rectified.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Dogboxelectric on February 21, 2014, 08:25:46 am
From James.

There is a swarm of fly's in the ointment right now and we have been advised to postpone our protest till a later date. There are a number of reasons for this and i'll try clarify as best I can, there might be some reading between the lines required, but in essence this is the gist of the issues.

With the last run, there were a number of violations that breached our permit. Some within our control others not, but the main issues were the use of alcohol before the ride, alleged claim people were stopping on the freeway and urinating on the streets, and mooning the gantries
.

We have been advised that our permit will be rejected, and that will mean us going to court to fight it. We do not have the funds to do that. However should we go ahead and win this, the story coming from the back benches is that it is a fait accompi that the hosts will be arrested if any violation of any law or by laws are observed. That means a 3 day stint for Shaun and myself. This is the way they plan to set an example of us. The arrests will be groundless, but will be carried out regardless. This is not BS, it comes from the horses mouth.

We are therefore postponing the protest in JHB, but all other BAT regions protests will continue as planned. A new date will be set, and the other group Admins and ourselves will sit down to discuss how to clean up the different FB and Web pages. There is a concept that we are hiding the other groups from the authorities, and some how planning to subvert the protest. We all now its BS, but SANRAL has long arms and deep pockets.

We are also to ensure that all groups that will be attending the new date (to be announced) must do so under a single banner. The Sec Police have been monitoring the various pages, and gathering info to shut us down. Our new JMPD host isnt a friendly guy and proved his bias and attitude at the last run, we can say that we will be apposed at every turn in the future. We need to present a clean act if we are to continue. Which we will, there is no going back on our protests, but we need to fix
whats broken.

Keep an eye out for the change of date, it will be announced as soon as we can find a date and are happy they have nothing on us, and that what went wrong in the past will be rectified.


I so badly want to post this on FB, but I shant.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Cracker on February 21, 2014, 11:38:56 am
Besides mooning the gantries - the other 'violations' are just a normal part of life in SA?

And I don't really think that pointing your bum at a gantry should be a crime - It's just those in authority being anal again
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: XTFREAK on February 21, 2014, 06:45:35 pm
So im confused, maybe naivety but does this mean that if they don't give us permission to protest then we can't protest?  Isn't this the point of a protest?
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on February 21, 2014, 09:42:03 pm
Quote
So im confused, maybe naivety but does this mean that if they don't give us permission to protest then we can't protest?

Only if you are a bad ass biker type.
All other sectors of society protest and be damned, and generally get what they are demanding.
Title: Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
Post by: Kneeslider on February 21, 2014, 09:45:19 pm
But then again, no law stops you and 5000 of your closest buddies taking a breakfast run around the ring road of JHb driving/riding at the LEGAL minimum highway speed of 60kph, no laws broken, protest? What protest??