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General => General Bike Related Banter => Sidecars => Topic started by: TornadoF5 on February 09, 2014, 12:49:15 pm

Title: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: TornadoF5 on February 09, 2014, 12:49:15 pm
A whole new level.....
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6209/sesidecar.png)
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww340/Twistgrip/EGT%202012/040.jpg) (http://s733.photobucket.com/user/Twistgrip/media/EGT%202012/040.jpg.html)
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: chopperpilot on February 09, 2014, 02:11:09 pm
Nice! I want!


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Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: evansv on February 09, 2014, 02:26:11 pm
I have to admit that looks cool :thumleft:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Humfree on February 11, 2014, 06:51:51 am
 :thumleft: :laughing4: :thumleft: :laughing4:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: edgy on February 11, 2014, 07:54:46 am
Spoils the SE for what it is ???
Sidecars are there for BM`s and Triumphs and other boring scoots :lol8:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Humfree on February 11, 2014, 08:52:09 am
Spoils the SE for what it is ???
Sidecars are there for BM`s and Triumphs and other boring scoots :lol8:

...and XR's.... ;D
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lem on February 11, 2014, 09:09:53 am
ja look, I love the look of a Ural sidecar, or these conversions being done on 1150GS & later models, but this...

this is just so wrong on so many levels  :imaposer:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Ratt on February 11, 2014, 09:16:50 am
Nee, dis net verkeerd!!!
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Sparky on February 11, 2014, 09:19:24 am
What is going on with the front end? Weird set-up.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Hando on February 11, 2014, 09:19:38 am
That is a Heidenau K60 scout (rear tire) mounted on the front wheel !
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lem on February 11, 2014, 09:27:31 am
That is a Heidenau K60 scout (rear tire) mounted on the front wheel !


yes, that will HUMMMM more than the 950SE's exhaust note
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: iamgigglz on February 11, 2014, 09:37:12 am
Spoils the SE for what it is ???

+1 I've seen a sidecar on a 990 adv and thought THAT was a waste; this is just a travesty.

Kinda reminds me of this...

(http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/IMG_5104-640x426.jpg)
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on February 11, 2014, 09:43:08 am
What is going on with the front end? Weird set-up.

Trailing Link - makes steering easier.....
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: adv on February 11, 2014, 09:45:23 am
I dont see the point.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Gerrard on February 11, 2014, 10:09:16 am
I dont see the point.

Because he can  :thumleft:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: jaybiker on February 11, 2014, 01:20:54 pm
Those are leading link (not trailing link) forks. It's an old design that tries to separate the suspension function from the steering and brake reaction.
Engineers have argued for years that telescopic forks are 'wrong' in that the suspension is compromised by having to handle both steering and brake torque reaction, which is why there have been numerous attempts to design a viable hub centre steering system. Leading links and trailing links are a partial solution, as is the BMW telelever design.
However, despite being an engineering abortion, conventional 'tele's ' have served well in practice for around 70 years because of their advantage in terms of simplicity, weight and cost.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lem on February 11, 2014, 01:29:37 pm
Those are leading link (not trailing link) forks. It's an old design that tries to separate the suspension function from the steering and brake reaction.
Engineers have argued for years that telescopic forks are 'wrong' in that the suspension is compromised by having to handle both steering and brake torque reaction, which is why there have been numerous attempts to design a viable hub centre steering system. Leading links and trailing links are a partial solution, as is the BMW telelever design.
However, despite being an engineering abortion, conventional 'tele's ' have served well in practice for around 70 years because of their advantage in terms of simplicity, weight and cost.

no that you explain this so nicely, I wonder if there is another photo from maybe a different angle, because to me that suspension setup leans itsself towards having a possible driveshaft towards the front wheel as well.

I'm sure it can be done, and should work well on an off-road biased side car setup.

it is also possibly the only thing can keep the front wheel of a 950 SE planted on the ground.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on February 11, 2014, 02:03:05 pm
One word

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lem on February 11, 2014, 02:17:07 pm
One word

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe the guy in the picture is a riding god ?
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on February 11, 2014, 02:27:50 pm
One word

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe the guy in the picture is a riding god ?

With that pic and kit. Not a fuck.

IMO its a photo shoot.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Gerrard on February 11, 2014, 02:28:11 pm
Should I delete the tread  :patch:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on February 11, 2014, 02:29:21 pm
Should I delete the tread  :patch:


Hell yes.  :bs: :puke:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on February 11, 2014, 02:30:00 pm
Sorry Warren  :lol8:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Gerrard on February 11, 2014, 02:33:29 pm
 :imaposer: Nah ! I think the bike is cool... sticking it to you riding gods  :imaposer: In the right hands i suppose that thing can vooma on dirt.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lem on February 11, 2014, 02:40:48 pm
One word

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe the guy in the picture is a riding god ?

With that pic and kit. Not a fuck.

IMO its a photo shoot.

well, at least he's not meerkatting, so he must be a riding god
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on February 11, 2014, 02:52:41 pm
One word

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe the guy in the picture is a riding god ?

With that pic and kit. Not a fuck.

IMO its a photo shoot.

well, at least he's not meerkatting, so he must be a riding god

 :laughing4:  True or god like!
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: TornadoF5 on June 09, 2014, 08:31:38 pm
Just to spite you dudes I'm going to fit a sidecar to the SE.....

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k45/nevgriff64/March09033.jpg)
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Lew on June 10, 2014, 07:17:00 am
Nice Tornado, how did you manage to get a loose ural sidecar?They are not easy to get hold of.Let us know how the se performs with this set up.Enjoy your ride.Just need to spray the cart ktm orange.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 07:24:05 am
Just to spite you dudes I'm going to fit a sidecar to the SE.....

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k45/nevgriff64/March09033.jpg)

... and then we will kidnap ThrottleJock and strap him in while you take him for a leaker bumpy ride through Baviaans  :imaposer: 
Ze Shermans are ze krazee butt ve kan do it better voreshore  :lol8:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Geotraveller on June 10, 2014, 07:44:57 am
At last the true purpose of the KTM is revealed     :pot: :imaposer:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 07:52:42 am
At last the true purpose of the KTM is revealed     :pot: :imaposer:

Remember they started by making cooking pots  :pot:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 08:50:52 am
Fuck the lot of you. Tornado I take it back you dont deserve a SE. I have a friendly greyhound that would love to have a SE and use it for its intended purpose. Will PM you his details. A SE is not a fucking taxi. I know everyone wants to ride one but this is redonkeylous.  :patch:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 08:54:51 am
[quote author

 A SE is not a fucking taxi. I know everyone wants to ride one but this is redonkeylous.  :patch:

[/quote]

Clearly not as there seem to be a few who would rather ride 'side saddle'  :imaposer: 

PS Have you asked FC's opinion? May just find this appeals to her ... actually on second thoughts better not ask  >:D
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 09:06:35 am
[quote author

 A SE is not a fucking taxi. I know everyone wants to ride one but this is redonkeylous.  :patch:


Clearly not as there seem to be a few who would rather ride 'side saddle'  :imaposer: 

PS Have you asked FC's opinion? May just find this appeals to her ... actually on second thoughts better not ask  >:D
[/quote]

FC is a purist and would never deface a beauty like that.

If someone had to bolt that shit to my bike it would peel it off like a used nappy out a Brakpan car window.  ;)

Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Firecoast on June 10, 2014, 09:26:46 am
Right, seeing as Dom brought me into this...  :P

Side cars do look really good... this one is no different (especially in all it's black and orange glory).  :peepwall:

BUT........ I don't think it has any valid reason to be on a DS bike. Surely it is meant for bikes that just do smooth, tarred, open road type of stuff? How secure are those things?

It doesn't appeal to me (in the sense of riding in one), as I personally don't find it very safe (for lack of a better word) and if that thing was ever bolted on to Throttle's SE I would be flying out of it at the first corner with his riding!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: TornadoF5 on June 10, 2014, 09:38:02 am
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

TJ I'd neva do that but I got the reaction I wanted
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 09:50:47 am
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

TJ I'd neva do that but I got the reaction I wanted

Good. Now fuck off and do some constructive farkling so we can go ride sometime and put some scratches on that showroom show piece.  >:D
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: TornadoF5 on June 10, 2014, 09:59:21 am
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

TJ I'd neva do that but I got the reaction I wanted

Good. Now fuck off and do some constructive farkling so we can go ride sometime and put some scratches on that showroom show piece.  >:D
'
Getting my Projets from the US when I'm there & may just toss the wife and get a Rotweiller air kit too.... :ricky:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 10:02:33 am
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

TJ I'd neva do that but I got the reaction I wanted

Good. Now fuck off and do some constructive farkling so we can go ride sometime and put some scratches on that showroom show piece.  >:D
'
Getting my Projets from the US when I'm there & may just toss the wife and get a Rotweiller air kit too.... :ricky:


That is the only thing I still want on my bike. Not for the extra HP (what I have got will still hurt me one day). But for the ease of access and service. I LIKE!!!

Unlike that stupid piece of tin on the picture above  :patch:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 12:00:03 pm
Right, seeing as Dom brought me into this...  :P

Side cars do look really good... this one is no different (especially in all it's black and orange glory).  :peepwall:

BUT........ I don't think it has any valid reason to be on a DS bike. Surely it is meant for bikes that just do smooth, tarred, open road type of stuff? How secure are those things?


To the contrary = Google Offroad sidecars and look at the pictures etc. While not my cup of tea (or tequila) there is a long history of off road and DS motorcycle sidecars, epic adventures etc. There are also a number of sidecar offraod competition classes (we are just ignorant here) -   that are really gnarly  :3some: 



Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Firecoast on June 10, 2014, 12:04:24 pm
Well I stand corrected then Dom.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 12:11:07 pm
Oh and sidecars have also allowed hundreds of paraplegic bikers to continue to enjoy riding.  :3some:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 12:21:46 pm
I dont care if they are used to jump over buildings or to carry the wifey or doggy around. JUST NOT ON A SE. :deal:

or on a hp

Its like buying a lambo and using it as a delivery vehicle limited to 1st gear.

STOOOOOPPPPIIIIIIDDDDD  :deal:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: Firecoast on June 10, 2014, 01:55:51 pm
Oh and sidecars have also allowed hundreds of paraplegic bikers to continue to enjoy riding.  :3some:

Yes, yes, you make another valid point Sir Dom! If you read my previous reply, you would note that I do in fact like them.

Now that I have blown sufficient sunshine up your butt  :biggrin:, could you please answer my original question as to how secure they are. Thanks
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 01:57:38 pm
Oh and sidecars have also allowed hundreds of paraplegic bikers to continue to enjoy riding.  :3some:

Yes, yes, you make another valid point Sir Dom! If you read my previous reply, you would note that I do in fact like them.

Now that I have blown sufficient sunshine up your butt  :biggrin:, could you please answer my original question as to how secure they are. Thanks


 :laughing4: Vatso
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: BiG DoM on June 10, 2014, 03:06:46 pm
Oh and sidecars have also allowed hundreds of paraplegic bikers to continue to enjoy riding.  :3some:

Yes, yes, you make another valid point Sir Dom! If you read my previous reply, you would note that I do in fact like them.

Now that I have blown sufficient sunshine up your butt  :biggrin:, could you please answer my original question as to how secure they are. Thanks

First I will sit down and hope the sun does not set  :lol8: 

Answer: They are VERY secure unless attached by TJ to a SE in which case it will eject like a F16 jet seat!  8)
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on June 10, 2014, 03:11:11 pm
Oh and sidecars have also allowed hundreds of paraplegic bikers to continue to enjoy riding.  :3some:

Yes, yes, you make another valid point Sir Dom! If you read my previous reply, you would note that I do in fact like them.

Now that I have blown sufficient sunshine up your butt  :biggrin:, could you please answer my original question as to how secure they are. Thanks

First I will sit down and hope the sun does not set  :lol8: 

Answer: They are VERY secure unless attached by TJ to a SE in which case it will eject like a F16 jet seat!  8)


 :imaposer:

Eeeexxxaaaccttly  :deal:
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 13, 2014, 09:44:26 pm
As mighty as you think an SE is, it will really kark to pull a sidecar. In fact it will burn it's skinny little clutch on pull-away.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: chopperpilot on June 14, 2014, 12:56:53 pm
As mighty as you think an SE is, it will really kark to pull a sidecar. In fact it will burn it's skinny little clutch on pull-away.
Is dit hoekom BMWs die voorkeur sleepvoertuig vir 'n side car is?


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Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 14, 2014, 07:24:44 pm
As mighty as you think an SE is, it will really kark to pull a sidecar. In fact it will burn it's skinny little clutch on pull-away.
Is dit hoekom BMWs die voorkeur sleepvoertuig vir 'n side car is?


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Ja, met hul 3-reeks koppelaars.
Title: Re: KTM 950 SE sidecar
Post by: chopperpilot on June 14, 2014, 07:28:51 pm
As mighty as you think an SE is, it will really kark to pull a sidecar. In fact it will burn it's skinny little clutch on pull-away.
Is dit hoekom BMWs die voorkeur sleepvoertuig vir 'n side car is?


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Nou lekker gelag! Seker baie naby aan dit!


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