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Title: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Altie7deLaan on May 29, 2014, 07:39:08 pm
So vanmiddag gaan Loer Ek Daar by acme, Ek sien op die web hulle het n paar s1000aaraars wat n lekker stunt bike sal maak. Almal is code 3 met aansienlike cosmetic skade, en prys tussen 110 k en 135k? Daar is ook baie 12gs oillies met baie skade, ook code 3 en Rondom 60k? Is daar werklik mense wat dit betaal vir code 3? Baie van die goed gaan jou op die einde meer as n code 2 kos?
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Lear300 on May 29, 2014, 09:52:09 pm
I was looking for a BMW chassis as a project bike, went there and found a couple that would suit my needs. Prices ranged from R60 to R120k. Needless to say, I did not get my project bike :imaposer:

I thought I was the only one who thought their prices where high. But it's their bikes and they can sell them for whatever they want.

I did manage to get some spare parts from them for less than a third of dealer prices, so I guess it's not all bad
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on May 29, 2014, 10:20:02 pm
As a rule, for their own simplicity, ACME charge 50% on MOST 2nd hand parts (not bikes); they keep up to date with BMW prices, charging half price makes it easy for them, I suspect.
Cheers
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Sprocketbek on May 29, 2014, 10:46:30 pm
Over the years I have always considered 25% to be a fair price for a 2nd hand (used) part and 50% for a new pirate part, as a guideline.
They are clearly crazy  ???
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Straatkat on May 29, 2014, 11:14:18 pm
 I went there some months back, they are crazy with their prices, they will do a lot more business if they are reasonable, but hey they must maak soos hulle smaak, I for one will not bother going back.
Having said that, most motorcycle scrapyards are very expensive and are best avoided as far as possible.
If you are looking for a project or a stunt bike you will do better surfing the classifieds...
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Dwerg on May 30, 2014, 07:23:02 am
Hulle bike pryse is mal. Jy kan 'n mooi 1000rr 2e hands kry vir 125
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 30, 2014, 07:32:47 am
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Lear300 on May 30, 2014, 07:39:38 am
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?

well, that is exactly the point. They are in business to make money, so they buy the wreck, add their mark-up and that's their price. Clearly they have a market, otherwise they would not be there.

When I am looking for something, I call them, get a quote, shop around and if they are cheaper I support them. If not, it only cost me a phone call.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: AntVan on May 30, 2014, 07:56:04 am
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?

well, that is exactly the point. They are in business to make money, so they buy the wreck, add their mark-up and that's their price. Clearly they have a market, otherwise they would not be there.

When I am looking for something, I call them, get a quote, shop around and if they are cheaper I support them. If not, it only cost me a phone call.

Agree with King Lear.

Anyone wants to open a business and challenge the model is welcome - it is for the moment a free market economy. It is an interesting business model, and from what I understand Acme does not have a large workforce, minimising the effect of labour unrest etc. But you need large spaces, insurance, you need specialist knowledge, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: woody1 on May 30, 2014, 08:21:03 am
Same at Bike Hospital.  Tried to get some parts but not even a big jar of Vaseline convinced me to EVER go back there again.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: ButchH on May 30, 2014, 04:10:27 pm
Well you guys are lucky  being able to pop in there  us that live a bit further away are reliant on their on line enquiry system that does not work and telephones that are either switched off  or not answered. I only fill in a on line enquiry once and when I get a error message I think fuck it move one . Un professional service that comes with the arrogance of thinking you are the only game in town. Sick of C@#$nts who sell serviceable BM's now we have to deal with arrogant c@#$nts who sell wrecked ones  . Germany stand by email on the way  :deal:
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: McBiker on May 30, 2014, 06:04:34 pm
Same at Bike Hospital.  Tried to get some parts but not even a big jar of Vaseline convinced me to EVER go back there again.

Sjoe, Oomie, jy is kwaai vandag  ;)
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: woody1 on May 30, 2014, 06:06:24 pm
Nee wat ek is die liefde homself, maar die pryse wat hulle vra is MAL?
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 30, 2014, 08:17:31 pm
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?

well, that is exactly the point. They are in business to make money, so they buy the wreck, add their mark-up and that's their price. Clearly they have a market, otherwise they would not be there.

When I am looking for something, I call them, get a quote, shop around and if they are cheaper I support them. If not, it only cost me a phone call.

If ACME get these "wrecks" for a very low price, then they are actually cheating the clients of the insurance company. Does your premium enable insurerX to sell a written of bike to ACME for say R10000, and ACME makes R50000 mark-up on it?
Just asking.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: RobC on May 31, 2014, 08:16:21 am
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?

well, that is exactly the point. They are in business to make money, so they buy the wreck, add their mark-up and that's their price. Clearly they have a market, otherwise they would not be there.

When I am looking for something, I call them, get a quote, shop around and if they are cheaper I support them. If not, it only cost me a phone call.

If ACME get these "wrecks" for a very low price, then they are actually cheating the clients of the insurance company. Does your premium enable insurerX to sell a written of bike to ACME for say R10000, and ACME makes R50000 mark-up on it?
Just asking.
Nou verstaan ek glad nie jou logika nie, sodra die assuransie jou uitbetaal word die wrak hulle eindom om te maak mee wat hulle wil.  ::)
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Sandban(g)k on May 31, 2014, 09:06:47 am
Ek se nie hulle pryse is reg nie, maar as jy n bike of karnsou opbou en elke part apart koop, sal dit jou seker minstens 6 keer die prys kos as n nuwe een.

So ek glo daar is n premie te betaal per part. As jy dan nou n hele "halwe" bike by hul koop verkoop hul dit seker per part en nie as die hele fiets nie. Hulle sou dus die halwe fiets kon verkoop vir Rx as hul die parte verkoop het, en daarom is die hele halwe fiets soveel werd vir hulle.

Ek dink maar dis die geval?
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 31, 2014, 04:46:11 pm
What does these people[Acme] pay for these wrecks from the insurance?

well, that is exactly the point. They are in business to make money, so they buy the wreck, add their mark-up and that's their price. Clearly they have a market, otherwise they would not be there.

When I am looking for something, I call them, get a quote, shop around and if they are cheaper I support them. If not, it only cost me a phone call.

If ACME get these "wrecks" for a very low price, then they are actually cheating the clients of the insurance company. Does your premium enable insurerX to sell a written of bike to ACME for say R10000, and ACME makes R50000 mark-up on it?
Just asking.
Nou verstaan ek glad nie jou logika nie, sodra die assuransie jou uitbetaal word die wrak hulle eindom om te maak mee wat hulle wil.  ::)


Rob, ek is nie seker hoe dinge deesdae werk nie, sal vir Operator moet kry om te verduidelik, maar al 4 fietse wat ek al afgeskryf het, het ek vir regtig SPOTgoedkoop by die versekering teruggekoop. Ek het dan die uitbetaalde bedrag gebruik om die fiets self op te bou.
Hier is my logika; as versekeraar x die fiets aan Acme verkoop vir die tipe geld wat ek destyds vir my wrakke betaal het, en Acme gaan heen en maak letterlik 500% op die deal,
sou dit nie logiese sin maak vir die versekeraar om meer vir die wrak te vra nie? Dan kan Acme steeds se maar 200% wins maak, en die versekeraar kan die ekstra inkomste teen die klient se premie balanseer.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: gunsports on June 01, 2014, 08:59:43 am
Hierdie is maar net 'n simtoon van 'n moerse probleem in Suid Afrika. My hobby is om ou bikes op te koop; reg te maak en te ry. Die pryse van parte hier is belaglik; soveel so dat; as ek van plaaslikke verskaffers moes afhanklik wees (nuut en tweede hands), dan sou ek nie die stokpertjie kon beoefen nie. Ek was gevorseer om oorsee na parte te gaan soek. Vir my BMW koop ek my parte in Engeland. Vir my Goldwing, is Amerika weer die plek waar ek koop. In alle gevalle, betaal ek ongeveer een derde van die prys wat hulle hier wil he en dit sluit posgeld/koerier en invoer belasting in.

Dit is nie dat ek anti die SA mark is nie maar; ek het 'n eenvoudige keuse: koop oorsee en kry die bikes aan die gang teen 'n prys wat ek kan bekostig, of loop met die voete. En, dan is die oorseese part boonop nog gewaarborg! Dit is nie altyd iets wat jy van SA tweede handse parte kry nie.

Nog 'n voorbeeld: Soek bullet cam. Kyk spec's en lees toetse op Internet. Besluit op 'package'. In SA; kos die ding na aan R3000.00; en dan moet jy die 'mounting hardware' by koop. Kyk op e-Bay: no name brand; met presies dieselfde spesifikasies; selfde parte; kos R471.00; pos ingesluit. Nee jirre man!

En as die ding breek? Dan kan ek nog 5 vir die prys van die SA prys koop. After all; dis nie brieke nie, maar 'n 'nice to have'.

Moenie dat ek van SA diens begin praat nie .....
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Straatkat on June 01, 2014, 10:02:04 am
Dit lyk my as jy met 'n motorfiets ry in Suid Afrika dan het almal die reg om jou deur die ore te werk as jy iets daarvoor moet koop.
Brand my gat om die minste te se.
Aprilia wil meer as R400 kry vir 'n oiliefilter vir my RSV, toe modifiseer ek die fitting en nou skroef ek eenvoudig 'n "cartridge" op wat ek by Midas koop vir R60. So het ek talle voorbeelde.
Dis 'n saak van: Ja jy wil mos motorfiets ry, dan moet jy maar betaal! 
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: Eendstop on June 01, 2014, 10:30:33 am
Ek probeer ook net een maal met iemand besigheid doen en as hy my ignoreer of swak behandel sien hy my nooit weer nie.  Acme het my ge´gnoreer,  so ek sal nooit weer eens probeer nie.  Btw,  ook hier op onse forum is nog 'n vendor wat ook my navrae ge´gnoreer het,  so hy sal ook nooit weer van my hoor nie  :deal:

En ek glo in 'n vrye mark.  Elkeen het die reg om homself uit die poel te prys en dan te kla die ekonomie is sleg
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: 2StrokeDan on June 01, 2014, 10:38:50 am
I really do not want to rant about this, so see my post as an opinion, not a rant.

High prices for motorcycles and parts is something that, wait for it, sort of came with the yuppie market. Here all are guilty, but I must single out BMW for their contribution to
screwing the client.
I have had friends writing off their GS1150/1200's because of passenger footrest brackets that bent in a crash. Ridiculous.
I stood amazed to see what people pay for servicing, andservice parts for these top-selling brands.
Clever marketing managed to get more people than ever before to pay too much for a product that they often do not actually need.

ACME probably charge what they get the stuff sold for? So, to prove my point, there are lots of buyers out there, way too many in fact, that do not realise the value of things.
Title: Re: Acme salvage bike pryse
Post by: XT JOE on June 01, 2014, 08:36:47 pm
I really do not want to rant about this, so see my post as an opinion, not a rant.

High prices for motorcycles and parts is something that, wait for it, sort of came with the yuppie market. Here all are guilty, but I must single out BMW for their contribution to
screwing the client.
I have had friends writing off their GS1150/1200's because of passenger footrest brackets that bent in a crash. Ridiculous.
I stood amazed to see what people pay for servicing, andservice parts for these top-selling brands.
Clever marketing managed to get more people than ever before to pay too much for a product that they often do not actually need.

ACME probably charge what they get the stuff sold for? So, to prove my point, there are lots of buyers out there, way too many in fact, that do not realise the value of things.

But we are to blame for this....i think insurances are changing slightly because they are hurting with these easy write offs. I rebuilt a code 3 GS 800 with ACME supplying body parts (cost 50% odd percent of new -Superfoxi made the top tripple clamp -looks better then original and 50% cost. Found Acme pretty helpfull returning and swopping  parts. I have bought some stuff from UK/Europe but have not quite gone the ebay route- with some stories of people being ripped off with incorrect parts -and massive shipping cost/ hassle to return items