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Title: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Aquatic on June 25, 2014, 12:10:42 am
Mod Edit

BANG and we are off!!!

Click Here  (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=153875.440) to go to Stage 1, January 04, 2015.
  :deal:



If you want to follow the buildup as well, dont click on the link and just keep Reading from here on below.


Bluebull2007 :paw:



Nasser al-Attiyah to switch to Toyota for Dakar 2015

http://www.gulf-times.com/mobile//sport/192/details/397418/nasser-al-attiyah-to-switch-to-toyota-for-dakar-2015 (http://www.gulf-times.com/mobile//sport/192/details/397418/nasser-al-attiyah-to-switch-to-toyota-for-dakar-2015)

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Champions are always in search of new challenges to spur them on. And this constant need to up the ante is what separates them from the journeymen.

Qatar’s very own Nasser Saleh al-Attiyah won the Dakar Rally in 2011 with Volkswagen and was third in the 2014 edition driving for Mini. But for the 2015 edition, al-Attiyah has decided to switch to Toyota to further his chances of a second Dakar title.

“I have been with Mini, a team that has won the Dakar. But Toyota has never won it. I want to become the first driver to win the Dakar for Toyota. That is the main reason why I came to Toyota,” said al-Attiyah yesterday during an event held by Ooredoo to felicitate the Qatari driver’s achievements in 2014.

Al-Attiyah was gifted a gorgeous Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet by Ooredoo chairman HE Sheikh Abdullah bin Mohammed bin Saud al-Thani as part of the felicitation.

“Not only is Nasser al-Attiyah a positive role model and great brand ambassador for Ooredoo, but he’s helping put Qatar on the map for sport. We wanted to thank him for his hard work, and for the inspiration he provides for the next generation of champions,” said HE Sheikh Abdullah during the event.

The Qatari driver has indeed had a great year so far. Apart from the Dakar podium, he has won the Portuguese and Argentina rallies in the WRC2 category. He has also won the top spot of the podium in all the three races (Qatar, Kuwait and Jordan) of the Middle East Rally Championship (MERC).

Al-Attiyah is confident of maintaining his winning run in MERC and is also targeting the WRC2 title. “We have won every race in the Middle East Rally Championship and we are leading in the standings. Winning the WRC2 title is the next step. It will be very hard but we will try to be clever and collect more points in the world championship.

“I think that will be enough for us to win WRC2. Everybody has had five races out of six while we did just three. But still we have enough races left,” said al-Attiyah.

He is currently recovering from a broken rib sustained in the last rally but al-Attiyah said he is on the recovery path and will need just one more week to be fully fit. “I had a big impact incident on my side because I had used a new seat and it was a little bit loose for my body and ended up breaking one rib on the left side. I wanted to continue but the team said no.

“They said: ‘You must stop because the health is very important and recovery is important’. Now I feel much better. Maybe I need one more week to be fully fit,” he said.

While all of these rallies are preparation, the big moment will be when he tackles the Dakar, in a Toyota this time. And for that al-Attiyah has already begun preparations.

“It is important to begin my preparation early because I have changed my brand.” When asked why he decided to make the switch, al-Attiyah said, “Toyota have been asking me for a long time but I was tied down to a different team. Now I feel it is the right time to switch to a Japanese brand because Toyota have a strong car.”

Let’s hope that al-Attiyah is able to get that big win for Toyota and for himself.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on June 25, 2014, 01:01:24 am
Gordini Testing

http://www.youtube.com/v/rCyFDzG_XqE
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 27, 2014, 07:07:33 am
Im in. If you cant see the vid below try this link-- Beauty Shot Dakar 2014 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zrx3z)

http://www.youtube.com/v/ti9tcGuSLUw

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 27, 2014, 07:22:19 am
And another good one!

http://www.youtube.com/v/9IMCa7GHA3o
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on June 27, 2014, 02:43:51 pm
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: T9ER on June 27, 2014, 09:52:43 pm
Would love to know how many SA bike entries we have and how many get accepted when the entry list comes out. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 28, 2014, 12:55:40 am
Would love to know how many SA bike entries we have and how many get accepted when the entry list comes out. Good luck to all.

I think there are 4-5 guys this year
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on June 28, 2014, 08:09:51 pm
I posted this in another thread, but I guess it's more appropriate here......

Extracts from Wessel's letter to ASO.


24 April 2014
Etienne Lavigne
Director Dakar Management, Amuary Sport Organisation, Paris

Participation in the 2015 Dakar - Special request by Wessel  Bosman,  Afriski Ski & Mountain Resort, Kingdom of Lesotho

A 'Few Days in my Life'and the next 250 days 'till Dakar 2015


Dear Etienne
Life is about challenges, belief, passion and choices. I follow the Dakar every year with much interest and a lot of respect. Did I ever think I would compete in the Dakar when I was younger? No, I never thought it could be possible. I competed in athletics when I was younger, and held the South African record in hurdles for 17 years. I was also the South African 100m champion and captain of the National Springbok team. I qualified 75 times for four Olympic Games in times when it was not possible for us to compete internationally. I started the Afriski resort (www.afriski.net (http://www.afriski.net)) in 1998 after my return from Japan and my visit to the Winter Olympic Games in Nagano - where I experienced Winter sport for the first time in my life. Many people laughed at my idea to build a ski resort in Africa, but in the 2013 ski season more than 30 000 people visited the resort...and now also the first big summer sport event...This past Easter weekend we hosted a super successful International UCI Class 1 Mountain Bike XCO and Downhill race in Lesotho on a track that I started to build only 3 months ago!
I always rode motorbikes on the farms, mountains and in the remote areas of Mozambique, Namibia and Botswana. In 2005, to promote winter sport in Africa, my son and I travelled 12000km from Cairo to Cape in a ... time of 19 days, without support, all the spares with us on the two bikes. It was an amazing trip and very special. My son, Johan, was seriously injured in an accident when a drunken guy drove through a red robot only six months after our trip, 1km from our home in Pretoria. He died a few months later.
Dear Etienne, does the above give me any advantage or right to try to enter Dakar 2015? No, not at all. I respect the challenges of the Dakar too much to ask for any special treatment if I can't prove to the Dakar Organisation that I am fully prepared and able to do the Dakar in a safe and responsible manner.
During December and January I stayed and rode in the Namibian desert. Brett Cummings and Glen Grundy, Dakar participants, gave me navigation equipment and helped me with navigation and roadbook training in the desert. I gave my commitment to help the Lesotho Cycling Association to build the UCO accredited MTB XCO and Downhill course and now the cyclists of Africa asked us to bid for the African Championship of 2015 and we received our International accreditation for our track. It is only now that I can give 100% to prepare for 2015 Dakar entry, training and to compete in my first Dakar. I just paid my deposit to enter for the Pharaohs rally to ride my first FIM rally! I know that I must do everything to finish and gain experience. I also know that you have 1000's of riders in the world that can do that, so how will I gain more respect from the Dakar Organisation?
I plan to ride from Southern Africa through Africa to Egypt with my bike, in 21 days, and then compete in the Pharaohs rally, starting 26 April 2014. Am I a little crazy to do that, or even to think that I will not destroy the bike? I just know it is the only way I have a chance with my Dakar application. I built everything myself on the bike, a KTM 450EXC Six Days, to be ready for scrutineering at the Pharaohs, from the frames for navigation to the sump guard with two litres of water and 10 litre extra fuel tank at the back of the bike. I also know that in this journey through Africa, with 9000km and a lot of borders in only 21 days, with even only a small delay could mean that I miss the start of the rally.
To prepare myself and prove that I can ride for 10 to 14 hours a day, still service the bike and manage to deal with all of the logistics, I want to ride from Lesotho through Africa to Egypt in less than 21 days and compete in the Pharaohs rally...I understand the risk of Africa and the unknown, but I feel that this is maybe the only way to prove to you that although I have not competed in an international rally before, I will be capable of competing in the Dakar, and  still have 8 more months to improve my skills, fitness and navigation.....
After Egypt...I must visit KTM Head Offices in Austria to reserve one of the new KTM 450RRs, because we all know that my KTM Six Days will have had its days after this effort...
My effort or plan is so small in the light of the brilliant champions competing in the Dakar and Tour de France or any of your other special events... but when I am in Europe, may I visit the offices of ASO in Paris and promote the efforts of the first rider under the Lesotho flag?
I will prepare my CV to be ready on 15 May 2015 when your entries open for 2015 Dakar…..I will be somewhere in Sudan on my way to Egypt on that day...so may I rather bring it personally to the offices of ASO with my 4000 Euro deposit?
Thank you for a brilliant event that has inspired millions.
Kind regards
Wessel Bosman
Director
Afriski Atitude Sport (Pty)Ltd 

and I just got this from Wessel
"I meet Xavier (Etienne's right-hand man) Monday at around one o'clock before I fly Monday night to Europe to collect my bike and do my Europe trip... I paid my Dakar deposit two days ago and I think there is no turning back.. I am not sure if they will accept me but if, then the hard training will begin!"

Come on Etienne, give him a shot!

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: T9ER on June 28, 2014, 09:11:35 pm
Wessel phoned me before he left for Egypt. Seems like an incredible guy I hope he gets in. 
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 28, 2014, 09:59:57 pm
Steve, I am almost 100% sure he will get his entry. the ASO love this kind of thing, and it will be a first for Lesotho. So he has two things going for him. Go Wessel!!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 28, 2014, 10:00:32 pm
He is going to have to train hard though, he nearly DNF the Pharoahs.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on June 30, 2014, 10:14:03 am
Barring the death of his son, Wessel's certainly had a life worth living - hope he makes it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on July 03, 2014, 07:56:07 am
From Wessel via FB:

"I wrote in a letter that I want to visit KTM Head Office in Austria after my trip though Africa and the PHARAONS RALLY...How can I give a true recording of my day at the KTM Factory Racing.... It went much deeper than just to say great.. When I sat on the bike that Marc Coma won the 2014 Dakar, I could just imaging what went through his mind every second to stay on top of his game...Then the super clean operation at this special "factory"!!! Then unexpectedly, meeting Heinz Kinigadner.. I knew of the "KINI" racing clothes and brand but never thought this would come my way... and now tomorrow morning early Franco Picco and me will travel to his famous shop near Innsbruck to get my bike ready for my next trip to A.S.O. in Paris. Meeting all these dedicated people....Alex, Daniel, Helmut, Michael and then Heinz opened my eyes and convinced me that my road ahead must be with special planning and respect...on the right bike that can finish a Dakar..."
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on July 03, 2014, 07:57:18 am
More..
"The truck for the KTM Factory Racing Team and the 2015 Dakar...already the KTM Team starting with the logistics for 2015.. with super great guys- Angerer Michael, assistance already at 10 Dakars and promise me I will find him at the 2015 Dakar...if I will be there. Daniel Trauner spend hours listening to my crazy Ideas..and he and the KTM factory Team convinced me there is only one bike to do the 2015 Dakar with.."
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on July 03, 2014, 07:58:09 am
Even more:
"With respect and 'goose pimples' on the bike of Marc Coma, winning the 2014 Dakar...will I meet him one day in person??"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on July 03, 2014, 07:59:20 am
"I say hallo to a bike that only a few will ride but many would love to... The 2015 450 Rally Replica for the KTM Factory Racing Team!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2014, 08:14:57 am
What an experience!!  :drif:  :drif:

Marc Coma is a terrific chap - very down to earth. I have not doubt he will meet him in time.
Title: Team Lion
Post by: Aquatic on July 03, 2014, 02:17:56 pm
(http://image1.redbull.com/rbcom/010/2014-07-02/1331662876333_11/0010/1/1500/1000/11/peugeot-2008-dkr-first-test-pre-dakar-2015-10.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10505556_782338285130016_1056930893598124235_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10389024_782338338463344_1001827268102986413_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10462745_782338308463347_3932701505419432230_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10355429_782043838492794_4687298816190792224_o.jpg)

http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331662889831/peugeot-2008-dkr-tech-specs-and-action-images (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331662889831/peugeot-2008-dkr-tech-specs-and-action-images)

The wheel track width to body width ratio look weird!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2014, 06:35:10 pm
When are they going to make these commercially?   :drif:  :drif:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: T9ER on July 03, 2014, 09:30:39 pm
Looks like a radio control car. So cool.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on July 09, 2014, 08:57:00 pm
I hope I have this right - looks like Wessel's Dakar 2015 entry was accepted by ASO.
 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 10, 2014, 08:06:29 pm
That is awesome news! GOOOO Wessel!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Bender on July 16, 2014, 04:13:52 pm
I would like to meet Wessel one day, he is living the dream ! Read his story and it gives me goose bumps.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: madmax on July 16, 2014, 04:27:24 pm
thanx to all the contributors on this thread
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on August 01, 2014, 12:50:01 pm
Robby G doing some desert testing

https://www.youtube.com/v/iBvMFNJj8JM
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on August 01, 2014, 12:51:12 pm
X-Raid testing

https://www.youtube.com/v/9AxxePN460I
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: silvrav on August 01, 2014, 12:54:21 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on August 01, 2014, 12:56:37 pm
Two Paveys on the starting list. Both Simon and Llewellyn have got in

https://www.facebook.com/sipavey?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/sipavey?fref=nf)

 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on August 01, 2014, 01:00:47 pm
From Cyril's FB page

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10497395_10153004730489045_3642203701280652739_o.jpg)

Notice the extra bodywork on the air intake. Possible overheating problems?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dwerg on August 01, 2014, 01:04:41 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 01, 2014, 01:16:21 pm
Two Paveys on the starting list. Both Simon and Llewellyn have got in

I'm really chuffed for them. I was disappointed they ween't there last year.

So is there an official list published somewhere? Or do we find out only from riders themselves?
I would be rather keen to hear which South(ern) African riders got in, and whether JMo and Piglet will be there in the LC-450....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 05, 2014, 12:54:34 pm
Piglet is not going to Dakar 2015  :crybaby2:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24775461&postcount=50 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24775461&postcount=50)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on August 05, 2014, 02:23:34 pm
A shame! Bummer for her...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 06, 2014, 05:17:13 pm
From Darryl via FB:

"Fantastic news Riaan van Niekerk has been added to the ASO Elite list for the 2015 Dakar !!! Let the countdown begin !"

 :blob9: :blob9: :blob9: :blob9:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Takashi on August 06, 2014, 05:23:34 pm
From Darryl via FB:

"Fantastic news Riaan van Niekerk has been added to the ASO Elite list for the 2015 Dakar !!! Let the countdown begin !"

 :blob9: :blob9: :blob9: :blob9:

Fantastic, he should have been elite this year already...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: T9ER on August 06, 2014, 05:28:20 pm
Brilliant news! He deserves it. Come on January! :ricky:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BLK on August 06, 2014, 06:05:15 pm
Look forward to following this thread with great interest and wish the SA participants all the best.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on August 06, 2014, 06:16:59 pm
I'm trying desperately to ignore this thread :P
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on August 06, 2014, 06:46:16 pm
Nice work Riaan. Has he got full factory support next year?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on August 06, 2014, 06:46:48 pm
Nice work Riaan. Has he got full factory support next year?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 06, 2014, 07:28:25 pm
I'm trying desperately to ignore this thread :P


 :laughing4: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on August 07, 2014, 09:28:48 am
From Darryl via FB:

"Fantastic news Riaan van Niekerk has been added to the ASO Elite list for the 2015 Dakar !!! Let the countdown begin !"

 :blob9: :blob9: :blob9: :blob9:

Fantastic, he should have been elite this year already...

Brilliant!!!!

So how many Saffers, including Wessels are going to be in the 2015 Dakar? (including the other africans)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 07, 2014, 11:14:50 am
Brilliant!!!!

So how many Saffers, including Wessels are going to be in the 2015 Dakar? (including the other africans)

That is a really good question, and I don't have an answer.
 - Riaan is in, , definitely in
 - Brian Baragwanath, on a quad, definitely in
 - Wessel Bosman, definitely in
 - Brett Cummings almost certainly
 - Kobus Potgieter has ordered a KTM 450RR, but I havn't heard if he entered and if so, if his entry was accepted
 - I am not sure about our Zambian friend David Reeve, but it sounded like he was keen to go?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Hando on August 07, 2014, 12:21:49 pm
Aaag .... What the hell.

Let me subscribe so long.

Come on Dakar !!!!
I will have to start making plans for more data and better connection so I can download and watch all the videos that gets posted here.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on August 07, 2014, 05:14:24 pm
Brilliant!!!!

So how many Saffers, including Wessels are going to be in the 2015 Dakar? (including the other africans)

That is a really good question, and I don't have an answer.
 - Riaan is in, , definitely in
 - Brian Baragwanath, on a quad, definitely in
 - Wessel Bosman, definitely in
 - Brett Cummings almost certainly
 - Kobus Potgieter has ordered a KTM 450RR, but I havn't heard if he entered and if so, if his entry was accepted
 - I am not sure about our Zambian friend David Reeve, but it sounded like he was keen to go?

Spoke to Kobus at Sandveld - he's targeting 2016 but hasn't entered this year despite being in the process of completing a full season of international rallies. What about Darryl Curtis? Wasn't Kenny Gilbert also planning on having a crack?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on August 08, 2014, 09:27:01 am
I don't think Darryl will be entering again, looks like he is concentrating on the organization side of things.

This from the Dakar site.


07/29/14

Darryl Curtis has recently been appointed by A.S.O. as its Dakar representative for the riders coming from South Africa, Namibia, Mozambique, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, Zimbabwe, from now on, to the Dakar 2016.



His role will be to bring and share his experience of the Dakar to the riders community, and help the future candidates to set-up their plan of preparation. He will notably organized a “Dakar Workshop” once a year.
 
Darryl, 42, is an experienced rider, and a figure in South Africa. Two-time winner of the Roof of Africa and several times enduro and off-road South African champion, Curtis showed-up on the Dakar for the first time in 2012.
 
The other Dakar representatives are:
- José Carmona: Portugal
- Chris Evans: UK, Australia
- Henk Hellegers: The Netherlands
- Manuel Tajada (RPM): Spain

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zetman on August 10, 2014, 10:18:02 pm
I picked up this on ADV RIDER
http://www.lc450dakar.com (http://www.lc450dakar.com)

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rolling Stone on August 11, 2014, 06:15:19 am
Sub
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on August 19, 2014, 02:07:58 pm
Nasser takes the Hilux Bakkie to a win in Hungary

https://www.youtube.com/v/VpKdKi1Xrcs

Odds on a Toyota 1-2? Its a long shot but certainly a shot!!!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 19, 2014, 08:12:44 pm
From Simon Pavey via FB: (both Simon and his son Llewellyn will be at Dakar 2015)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: fatbob69 on August 20, 2014, 12:34:48 pm
Have been speaking to David Reeve this morning and his entry has been confirmed for 2015. Just awaiting confirmation for the mechanics and support team. Hopefully third time lucky for this hugely talented rider and all around great guy!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 24, 2014, 12:58:14 am
Have been speaking to David Reeve this morning and his entry has been confirmed for 2015. Just awaiting confirmation for the mechanics and support team. Hopefully third time lucky for this hugely talented rider and all around great guy!


Thats good news fatbob69

Welcome to the fórum as well :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: White Rhino on August 24, 2014, 05:36:30 am
Subfreakingscribed :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on August 26, 2014, 10:20:07 am
Could it be?

http://en.motoracinglive.com/News/Dakar-action-for-Valentino-Rossi (http://en.motoracinglive.com/News/Dakar-action-for-Valentino-Rossi)

The nine-time MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi has decided to contest the 2015 Dakar riding a Michelin-equipped Yamaha.
MotoGP star Valentino Rossi will turn his attention to a challenge of a different sort in 2015 when he plans to take part in the world’s most famous off-road rally, the Dakar. The Doctor faces two weeks of cross-country action in Argentina, Bolivia and Chile, before the finish in the Argentine capital Buenos Aires on January 17.
The Italian ace has not yet specified a precise objective for the event, but a top 10 finish would surely be a satisfactory result for the 35-year old.
Following the move of Cyril Despres to Peugeot Sport, Valentino Rossi’s recruitment is good news for Yamaha. The first test will take place in July during MotoGP’s traditional summer break.

(I suspect this is just speculative rumour....)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on August 26, 2014, 11:04:13 am
I doubt this one - but would be interesting if he did.

If Yamaha were to put him on a dakar bike, it would really be saying something about his riding skills.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 04, 2014, 12:35:28 pm
From Riaan:
With Dakar 2015 fast approaching our Broadlink KTM Factory effort is well on track, we are however a little short on budget. Should any of you be in the position to come on board with us to contribute to our proudly South African Dakar effort it would be much appreciated. Pls in box me?

And below is the quad guy's fundraising appeal:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on September 04, 2014, 01:00:49 pm
Where's my Laia Laia pants on... the floor?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on September 04, 2014, 01:29:17 pm
Rossi at the Dakar. Sure he has the balls, but the experience?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 04, 2014, 01:46:36 pm
Rossi at the Dakar. Sure he has the balls, but the experience?

I don't see it happening. Now Marquez, that would be fun. I would love to see him and Barreda racing.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: madmax on September 04, 2014, 03:55:43 pm
err date on article is 1/4 so doubtful


Could it be?

http://en.motoracinglive.com/News/Dakar-action-for-Valentino-Rossi (http://en.motoracinglive.com/News/Dakar-action-for-Valentino-Rossi)

The nine-time MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi has decided to contest the 2015 Dakar riding a Michelin-equipped Yamaha.
MotoGP star Valentino Rossi will turn his attention to a challenge of a different sort in 2015 when he plans to take part in the world’s most famous off-road rally, the Dakar. The Doctor faces two weeks of cross-country action in Argentina, Bolivia and Chile, before the finish in the Argentine capital Buenos Aires on January 17.
The Italian ace has not yet specified a precise objective for the event, but a top 10 finish would surely be a satisfactory result for the 35-year old.
Following the move of Cyril Despres to Peugeot Sport, Valentino Rossi’s recruitment is good news for Yamaha. The first test will take place in July during MotoGP’s traditional summer break.

(I suspect this is just speculative rumour....)

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 11, 2014, 01:03:26 pm
The riders of team SP FiFTYONE Racing put in a good showing at the Serres Rally, scoring numerous top five stage results and a top ten overall final result. The rain soaked race proved tough in the riding and navigation, something that pushed the team’s riders.

Following the exciting announcement that both riders from SP FiFTY ONE Racing gained entry to the Dakar Rally for 2015 the decision was taken to attend the Serres Rally. Well regarded for it’s more technical nature, spectacular scenery and challenging navigation, the Northern Greek event proved to be the perfect competition to practice the key skills of rally raid. A good turn out of Italian rally championship regulars and two top thirty Dakar finishers provided a good contest for the racers.
 
Despite a slow start to the week, lead rider Simon Pavey grew in confidence and speed over the course of the week, excelling when the terrain and navigation reached its most difficult. Aboard his stock Husqvarna FE 450, Simon slowly worked his way up the standings with a superb string of top ten results, peaking with 4th and 5th place finishes on the penultimate day helping him to climb into an impressive 8th overall.
 
The team’s young rider, Llewelyn Pavey suffered a more difficult week, mixing good results with an array of mechanical difficulties. The 23 year old, aboard Simon’s 2013 Dakar finishing Husqvarna, started the week strongly with a 4th and 6th place on the opening two stages. However, mechanical failure would strike. Despite working hard to solve the problem on stage, Llewelyn was towed 25km by fellow racer Steve Rose.
 
SS6 proved to be the highlight of the race as Llewelyn pushed hard to claim the overall victory on the short special stage, winning by an impressive three minute margin. He would only complete one more special stage before electrical issues plagued the bike again.

Simon Pavey: “The whole event was fantastic, it’s been very enjoyable. I started the week slowly; it’s how I always am. The longer events suit me and I haven’t been racing a huge amount this year. However I slowly got into the groove of things and we had a few stages with some challenging navigation. It was really funny, the guys around me were all trying so hard to ride fast that they ended riding in circles around me, coming from all directions and having big crashes. My best stages came when others struggled, the rain helped too. All up the race was really good and the team and bike were perfect.”

Llewelyn Pavey: “ The Serres has been a rollercoaster of emotions for me. I started the week well, 4th on the opening stage was a huge surprise as I had no idea where I’d fit in. From there things were going well, I was a little intimidated by the whole thing at first. The bike breaking multiple times was really tough. I worked really hard trying to fix it, over two hours in the heat, towed 25km with Steve and a whole day with our mechanic Evan. We thought we’d solved the problem and managed to take the victory on SS6. That was a huge deal for me, it’s a big, big win and the whole team was so stoked afterward. However, our electrical gremlins returned and to this point in time we still aren’t sure what happened. I really owe a big thanks to everyone who helped me this week.”
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on September 15, 2014, 01:39:52 pm
and this lady is also gearing up for the Dakar....   :3some:   :thumleft:

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10711131_845173312168861_4007089731286622258_n.jpg?oh=1a8ac2e83d8987d0cec00b205934a99b&oe=54897B18)

Laia Sanz Enduro Ladies World Champion!

"I'm very happy!! Today I've won the second race and I've gotten the title. Although people maybe think that the championship was easy for me, really it was very hard for my elbow surgery. Now it's time to celebrate the title, but tomorrow I will start to think on Dakar rallying."
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: madmax on September 17, 2014, 01:04:00 pm
and this lady is also gearing up for the Dakar....   :3some:   :thumleft:

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10711131_845173312168861_4007089731286622258_n.jpg?oh=1a8ac2e83d8987d0cec00b205934a99b&oe=54897B18)

Laia Sanz Enduro Ladies World Champion!

"I'm very happy!! Today I've won the second race and I've gotten the title. Although people maybe think that the championship was easy for me, really it was very hard for my elbow surgery. Now it's time to celebrate the title, but tomorrow I will start to think on Dakar rallying."

not the best pic of her..i do wonder though if she bats for the mens team..not a problem or issue either way..just wondering
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 17, 2014, 02:46:03 pm
Thats not a very nice thing to say, she just won another enduro after all...

In case you thought otherwise...
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnlZ5_SfyHgD2pS9ceWwuep1_0eRlAy0fYx0gVW8V4jTsfJJ4j)

Respect :notworthy:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ktmpilot on September 21, 2014, 09:07:18 pm
I am not sure if this is the correct thread or section to post this question on, but I am lightly toying with the idea of a Dakar spectator tour present-from-me-to-me: can anyone maybe give some advice, or maybe point me to the correct thread on the forum:

- Not looking to follow on a bike, just want to spectate as much as possible,
- Is it worthwhile trying a simple car-rental self-drive follow the race, or is one of the package deals on offer worthwhile? One that has caught my eye is Chase the Race, anyone know if that is a good choice maybe?


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 21, 2014, 11:11:58 pm
I am not sure if this is the correct thread or section to post this question on, but I am lightly toying with the idea of a Dakar spectator tour present-from-me-to-me: can anyone maybe give some advice, or maybe point me to the correct thread on the forum:
- Not looking to follow on a bike, just want to spectate as much as possible,
- Is it worthwhile trying a simple car-rental self-drive follow the race, or is one of the package deals on offer worthwhile? One that has caught my eye is Chase the Race, anyone know if that is a good choice maybe?

I toy with this idea every year, and every year life catches up with me and makes it impossible.
A few South African groups have shipped their own bikes over, and chased the race start to finish. I know some of the guys that did it in 2010, and others in 2012, and they all enjoyed it immensely. I think you have to go with the right crowd, and be prepared to be your own support, but with a large enough group it can be quite affordable.

Renting a bike or car and crossing international borders is a mission. I asked about it a few times, and didn't come right once. If the race starts and ends in the same place (like next year) then I suspect it will be easier than when it finished in a different country.

There are a few groups offering tours of portions of the race, typically within a singe country, with a circular route back to the start including a bit of sightseeing. Some seem a bit rag-tag, some seem well organised, but it is difficult to judge from far away. Having local support is very attractive, and obviously they have the advantage of speaking the language.
Chase the Race seem to be one of the good ones. I think their tour has been led for the past two years by Jago, the guy who rode with Toby Younger in Dakar 2012?

If you have the money, there are a paid seats on support teams. Basically you pay (around R200k) to become part of the team. You travel with them, get into the biviouac, the whole lot. This offers the best access, but at a price.

Not sure if this helps  ???
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 23, 2014, 07:53:28 am
If you go the Dakar website, you can also book a VIP tour, which is pretty larney but gives you access to the bivouac and also to the rally in some unique spots where other spectators are.

Best thing to do if you want to chase the Dakar is to do it on bikes, because there are typically 100-500,000 people PER DAY trying to do the same thing. Its gets crazy trying to keep up with the very long distances between bivouacs just to stay with the rally, and with the traffic you need to be on the road really early to make it to the next bivouac the next day. its not easy keeping up, believe me.

Just some things to think about.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ktmpilot on September 23, 2014, 09:41:27 pm
I am not sure if this is the correct thread or section to post this question on, but I am lightly toying with the idea of a Dakar spectator tour present-from-me-to-me: can anyone maybe give some advice, or maybe point me to the correct thread on the forum:
- Not looking to follow on a bike, just want to spectate as much as possible,
- Is it worthwhile trying a simple car-rental self-drive follow the race, or is one of the package deals on offer worthwhile? One that has caught my eye is Chase the Race, anyone know if that is a good choice maybe?

I toy with this idea every year, and every year life catches up with me and makes it impossible.
A few South African groups have shipped their own bikes over, and chased the race start to finish. I know some of the guys that did it in 2010, and others in 2012, and they all enjoyed it immensely. I think you have to go with the right crowd, and be prepared to be your own support, but with a large enough group it can be quite affordable.

Renting a bike or car and crossing international borders is a mission. I asked about it a few times, and didn't come right once. If the race starts and ends in the same place (like next year) then I suspect it will be easier than when it finished in a different country.

There are a few groups offering tours of portions of the race, typically within a singe country, with a circular route back to the start including a bit of sightseeing. Some seem a bit rag-tag, some seem well organised, but it is difficult to judge from far away. Having local support is very attractive, and obviously they have the advantage of speaking the language.
Chase the Race seem to be one of the good ones. I think their tour has been led for the past two years by Jago, the guy who rode with Toby Younger in Dakar 2012?

If you have the money, there are a paid seats on support teams. Basically you pay (around R200k) to become part of the team. You travel with them, get into the biviouac, the whole lot. This offers the best access, but at a price.

Not sure if this helps  ???

Thanks very much for the advice. I know some guys that followed on their bikes in 2012 and they had a great time, but there was a substantial amount of planning needed and best in a big-ish group. I have seen options like Freedom Rally which will sell you a working spot on an actual team for £12,000.00, excluding air fares, but I read an internet post by a guy that did this and he said that if the team's riders might happen to be out of the rally early on this ends up being quite a long hard drive to the end with a lot of depressed guys. In fact the guy whose post I read actually bought an airline ticket back to BA at some point in the rally just to get some decent food and rest in a hotel and then went back and re-joined closer to the end! This is of course aside from that I can certainly not afford £12,000.00 plus air fares, although I know that some such options really do turn out awesomely such as was written about in Ted Johnson's "Tales from the Bivouac" book about Ned Suesse's Dakar team on the 2012 race. So, so far it seems as if the Chase the Race option may be pretty good, I have had emails from Jago with some brochure material, will post here if anything concrete may come of it!




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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 24, 2014, 07:17:58 pm
This is of course aside from that I can certainly not afford £12,000.00 plus air fares.....

Just like the rest of us. http://www.sa2dakar.co.za/#/ (http://www.sa2dakar.co.za/#/) has a lucky draw to go with the SA team to Dakar next year, R1000 to enter.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: husky on September 26, 2014, 07:41:51 am
Just as a matter of interest I notice that one Stephane Peterhansel is competing / riding in the Lesotho Sky multi day MTB stage race on now and seems to be scaring all and sundry with his speed, particularly downhill.

Then I see Giniel de Villiers and his partner won the 360ne STorms River Traverse MTB stage race in August.

The big guns are sharpening up.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: evansv on September 26, 2014, 07:54:46 am
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on September 26, 2014, 09:19:39 am
and in other news.... Laia Sanz has joined the Honda HRC team for Dakar 2015!!!!!  Go go go Laia!!!!  :thumleft:

https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1)

(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/946633_713285008748011_8390214856623316010_n.jpg?oh=76e52e0aa1c0f3fc832146f08fc83af9&oe=5485CF01)

"Començo una nova etapa amb #Honda HRC i estic molt il·lusionada d'anar al proper #Dakar amb aquests quatre grans pilots: Joan Barreda, Paulo Gonçalves, Hélder Rodrigues i Jeremías Israel Moltes gràcies a tots!

I start a new project with #Honda HRC and I am very happy to go next #Dakar with these great four drivers: Joan Barreda, Paulo Goncalves, Hélder Rodrigues and Israel Jeremias. Thanks!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 26, 2014, 12:47:04 pm
And so the countdown begins............


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bmad on September 26, 2014, 03:30:08 pm
and in other news.... Laia Sanz has joined the Honda HRC team for Dakar 2015!!!!!  Go go go Laia!!!!  :thumleft:

https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1)

(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/946633_713285008748011_8390214856623316010_n.jpg?oh=76e52e0aa1c0f3fc832146f08fc83af9&oe=5485CF01)

"Començo una nova etapa amb #Honda HRC i estic molt il·lusionada d'anar al proper #Dakar amb aquests quatre grans pilots: Joan Barreda, Paulo Gonçalves, Hélder Rodrigues i Jeremías Israel Moltes gràcies a tots!

I start a new project with #Honda HRC and I am very happy to go next #Dakar with these great four drivers: Joan Barreda, Paulo Goncalves, Hélder Rodrigues and Israel Jeremias. Thanks!"

so she has 4 water carriers  :biggrin:
i'm sure all those boys want to look after her
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Advrider on September 26, 2014, 04:35:18 pm
Honda looks good, but I am holding thumbs for Yamaha....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on September 27, 2014, 07:12:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/dft3ZNL2yEs
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on October 03, 2014, 05:33:44 pm
Looks like everyone is in Amageza mode - fair enough, but how about some Dakar comments?
[I guess you could ask me the same, but I'd rather hear from the more knowledgeable dudes]
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Motties on October 03, 2014, 06:37:30 pm
Very excited about Brian Baragwanath in the Dakar. One of the most talented racers in SA (IMO) and I will definitely back him to be very competitive. Go Brian!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 07, 2014, 04:54:02 pm
Team SP FiFTY ONE are excited to announce the opening of a spot in their race support vehicle for the 2015 Dakar Rally. The seat will provide the unique opportunity for someone to fully immerse themselves in the full Dakar experience by becoming a fully functioning member of a privateer Dakar team.

Experiencing the full on force of the Dakar Rally is something that very few people are provided the opportunity to do. Partaking in the Dakar, as a racer or as crew is one of the toughest experiences you can immerse yourself in; a huge project that brings together and binds people like nothing else.
 
At Team SP FiFTYONE Racing we are extremely excited to offer this opportunity, to be able to bring someone new into our team and embark on an epic adventure together. The open position is to be the team driver, a position that involves both driving, managing the team’s camp for the entire event and all of the pre-event preparation.
 
The entire trip will provide the chosen applicant with a truly one off experience. The immense South American crowds, the humongous scale of the Dakar train, the epic crossings of the Andes and the physical challenge will test and enrich like nothing else.
 
The position is a buy-in seat, meaning all applicants have to fund themselves to attend the race. The cost of the entire project is £20,000 pounds. It is all-inclusive, including flights, food, clothing, fuel, food, and the entry fee for the Dakar.
 
For more information or to apply for the position, contact simon@offroadskills.com

Paul Green, Team Manager:
"I was the driver in 2013 for the team and it was an incredible, life changing experience. I’ll never be a good enough rider, but driving and logistics are my expertise and for me it couldn’t have been a more enriching, challenging and more fluffing, satisfying experience. The whole project, from build up to standing on that podium with Simon, Evan and our families was other worldy and I couldn’t recommend it more."

Simon Pavey, Team Owner:
"We’re really excited to be able to bring another person into the team to share this incredible experience with us. The Dakar is an incredibly unique experience. It’s a gruelling but entirely rewarding few weeks, the epic drives, the emotional ups and downs, the huge crowds of the Argentinian people – All of it adds up into an entrancing, unforgettable, life affirming trip. I’ve been nine times now and each one still provides me with experiences and feelings that just don’t happen elsewhere."

SteveD:
"If only I had the money...."
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Chili Dog on October 07, 2014, 06:47:06 pm
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bmad on October 08, 2014, 08:12:20 am
Team SP FiFTY ONE are excited to announce the opening of a spot in their race support vehicle for the 2015 Dakar Rally. The seat will provide the unique opportunity for someone to fully immerse themselves in the full Dakar experience by becoming a fully functioning member of a privateer Dakar team.

Experiencing the full on force of the Dakar Rally is something that very few people are provided the opportunity to do. Partaking in the Dakar, as a racer or as crew is one of the toughest experiences you can immerse yourself in; a huge project that brings together and binds people like nothing else.
 
At Team SP FiFTYONE Racing we are extremely excited to offer this opportunity, to be able to bring someone new into our team and embark on an epic adventure together. The open position is to be the team driver, a position that involves both driving, managing the team’s camp for the entire event and all of the pre-event preparation.
 
The entire trip will provide the chosen applicant with a truly one off experience. The immense South American crowds, the humongous scale of the Dakar train, the epic crossings of the Andes and the physical challenge will test and enrich like nothing else.
 
The position is a buy-in seat, meaning all applicants have to fund themselves to attend the race. The cost of the entire project is £20,000 pounds. It is all-inclusive, including flights, food, clothing, fuel, food, and the entry fee for the Dakar.
 
For more information or to apply for the position, contact simon@offroadskills.com

Paul Green, Team Manager:
"I was the driver in 2013 for the team and it was an incredible, life changing experience. I’ll never be a good enough rider, but driving and logistics are my expertise and for me it couldn’t have been a more enriching, challenging and more fluffing, satisfying experience. The whole project, from build up to standing on that podium with Simon, Evan and our families was other worldy and I couldn’t recommend it more."

Simon Pavey, Team Owner:
"We’re really excited to be able to bring another person into the team to share this incredible experience with us. The Dakar is an incredibly unique experience. It’s a gruelling but entirely rewarding few weeks, the epic drives, the emotional ups and downs, the huge crowds of the Argentinian people – All of it adds up into an entrancing, unforgettable, life affirming trip. I’ve been nine times now and each one still provides me with experiences and feelings that just don’t happen elsewhere."

SteveD:
"If only I had the money...."

I showed this to my wife and she thought i was joking,
When she realised i was serious, she wanted to know what the budget for divorce was if wanted to waste so much money  ::)

chicks don't get it  >:D
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bmad on October 08, 2014, 08:16:39 am
so essentially you need about 500K  :o
 
Worth it in my opinion  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 01:13:36 pm
I'm one of those in full Amageza mode, but the Dakar boys deserve a bit more attention....

So:
Kawasaki presentation on last 21 September
KL-KXF
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 01:18:38 pm
Honda are taking a big team, including one lady nogal. Well deserved, that, and on a pretty sexy looking bike....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 01:20:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/ldO7-EiRaP4
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 01:25:31 pm
..but the sexiest (for me) has to be the new KTM.
This is from Riaan - "My new rally bike, and yes it even faster than it looks. It makes my eyes water inside my goggles."

Interesting that they have a RNS Tripmaster rather than an ICO. And they have dual ERTF Speedocaps.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: dookie on October 08, 2014, 01:28:03 pm
Wowzers.
I do like the look of those Katooms.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Takashi on October 08, 2014, 01:52:06 pm
Damn thats a sexy bike.

Riaan is one lucky guy.


The stepper motor sticking outside the roadbook looks very exposed to me.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on October 08, 2014, 02:26:22 pm
Ktm do know how to make a sexy looking rally bike!!!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on October 08, 2014, 03:09:20 pm
David Reeve is currently riding in the OILIBYA RALLYE MAROC

I saw his bike here at the KTM workshop in Lusaka a few days before it got sent to Morocco, man it's a sexy bike!!!

Some pics of him racing in Morocco

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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1947926_764091960322565_6080414614664195990_n.jpg?oh=f9f399f1ed6ae587bd82eb216fd3d706&oe=54B470B0&__gda__=1425595533_3d83ea183f5c57d6573ab7ef14f86282)


(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/q82/p526x296/1474646_764555543609540_6448481658006807814_n.jpg?oh=c0eec388f268f6e75029c760c75bd649&oe=54B7248D)

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10646655_764558573609237_4747406434263071387_n.jpg?oh=f169cf55316ee1576ca80c3a72cc05fc&oe=54B36E16)




My mate Nasser is also there....
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10639603_763187160413045_4897136176162772768_n.jpg?oh=58ea1a55d278291efdee813abb4c2d3a&oe=54AD69D5)


Dit gaan al te  lekker daar in Morocco!!!  :biggrin: :biggrin:
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1011224_764101483654946_1528992623867574757_n.jpg?oh=043d9de042743424a5a2dcc0f7053d8a&oe=54F81990)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: The_Crow on October 08, 2014, 03:16:33 pm
And the award for the pic with the most plastic in it goes to:

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1011224_764101483654946_1528992623867574757_n.jpg?oh=043d9de042743424a5a2dcc0f7053d8a&oe=54F81990)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: evansv on October 08, 2014, 03:24:50 pm
One tends to find a camel toe, or 2 in the desert :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: cocky on October 08, 2014, 03:27:22 pm
And the award for the pic with the most plastic in it goes to:

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1011224_764101483654946_1528992623867574757_n.jpg?oh=043d9de042743424a5a2dcc0f7053d8a&oe=54F81990)
Sorry I really don't want to nit-pick, but WTF and who cares. Mooi was nog nooit lelik nie.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 03:44:14 pm
David Reeve is currently riding in the OILIBYA RALLYE MAROC

I actually met him at the airport last year, on his way to Dakar. Really nice guy, it seems. Possibly a bit prone to red mist syndrome.
I really hope he finishes next year, on his third attempt. He was injured on both of his last two attempts, both of them resulting in broken bones. You have to respect a guy driven that hard to get to the finish.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on October 08, 2014, 09:04:11 pm
David going very well!!!

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10696174_765743843490710_1977711524686261562_n.jpg?oh=14bbbe4bd78f7c3d76900f798c358732&oe=54B3E755)

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 09:33:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/ykWSw2DEWnM
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 08, 2014, 09:39:42 pm
How does Marc Coma prepare for the Dakar?
Exclusive: Four-time Dakar winner reveals his preparation techniques for the world’s toughest rally.


On January 4, the 37th edition of the toughest race in the world starts in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The Dakar Rally is a two-week sprint through deserts, mountains, wetlands and salt flats across three countries. The 2014 edition was widely regarded as one of the toughest of all time and the 2015 version promises to be even tougher.

We cornered defending motorbike champion Marc Coma at the Dakar 2015 presentation in Barcelona, Spain, where he rubbed shoulders with legends like Carlos Sainz, Nani Roma, Joan Barreda and Laia Sanz.

Here Marc Coma reveals how to prepare mentally and physically for the ordeal of racing the Dakar 2015...

1. Don't panic!
The psychological aspect is important in all sports, but it's essential in rally raids. Vital. It's every bit as important as the physical aspect. We exercise motivation and self-control because you have to learn how to manage stress in case, for example, you get lost.

2. Get into a routine
Routines can be as simple as not to forget to change the mapping when the terrain goes from dunes to stones. In the tension of the race you tend to forget. So to avoid getting lost or having a mechanical breakdown, your routines should be so well established that they're second nature.

3. Healthy bike, healthy body
It's very important to be organized and follow a routine on and off the bike. So when you finish the stage, it's important to recover and hydrate your body.

4. Seek professional help
I go to the High Performance Centre of Sant Cugat (here in Barcelona) which works in three areas: medical, psychological and nutritional. They put me through two stress tests and two or three anthropometric studies to find my levels of fat and muscle.

5. Tuning your body
It’s only been the last five or six years that I took control my diet. Since then I've lost quite a lot of weight. That means that physically I recover more quickly and I suffer less muscle injuries. But you do need to maintain a good percentage of fat so that you have some reserves in an emergency.

6. Different meals, same calories
My diet usually changes every two months. The menu is different, but the calorie intake is the same. Before the Dakar, it changes each week. The week before the race we have a special menu and then during the race you always have to adapt what you eat according to which country you're in.

7. Pedal power
I do almost all my training on a bicycle. It's healthy and fun at the same time. I usually do long runs of up to five hours or 120km on a road bike, although sometimes I ride a mountain bike for variety.

8. Riding enduro for rhythm
I use an enduro bike to practice my riding rhythm. A typical week consists of working on three areas: push bike, motorbike and gym. Every day we exercise with two of them: usually either the gym or riding the motorbike in the morning to build muscle for tackling long runs with the road bicycle in the afternoon.

From http://www.redbull.com/za/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331658620256/marc-coma-training-ahead-of-dakar-2015 (http://www.redbull.com/za/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331658620256/marc-coma-training-ahead-of-dakar-2015)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on October 09, 2014, 12:13:57 pm
Very interesting article - thanks Steve! Any idea what most of the top Dakar riders are wearing for protection under their rally jackets these days? Hard shell? Soft shell? Brand? I guess it's all sponsor related but I'm interested...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on October 09, 2014, 02:17:04 pm
I'm interested in where they carry all their gear? And how do they keep cool in what appears to be a leather jacket?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on October 09, 2014, 04:01:05 pm
I'm one of those in full Amageza mode, but the Dakar boys deserve a bit more attention....

So:
Kawasaki presentation on last 21 September
KL-KXF

You know the expression "if it looks right it is right" - well, I think there's some truth in that, and I can't help but noticing how old fashioned the Kawasaki rally bike looks. Sort of like what Rally Management Services was doing years ago with their old 525-based bike.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0061/7252/files/bike2_grande.jpg?1291934797)

Certainly a bit of an ugly duckling compared to the latest KTM/Honda stuff.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on October 09, 2014, 09:50:48 pm
Just saw this on the ADV Rider thread - Juan Pedrero keeping it pinned, straight through a double caution just 70m from the start on the final stage of Maroc this morning.... Jassus!!!

https://www.youtube.com/v/md62o2uC6no
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on October 09, 2014, 10:03:25 pm
Just saw this on the ADV Rider thread - Juan Pedrero keeping it pinned, straight through a double caution just 70m from the start on the final stage of Maroc this morning.... Jassus!!!

https://www.youtube.com/v/md62o2uC6no

Liewe ouers................    :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Takashi on October 10, 2014, 07:46:57 am
Just saw this on the ADV Rider thread - Juan Pedrero keeping it pinned, straight through a double caution just 70m from the start on the final stage of Maroc this morning.... Jassus!!!

Liewe ouers................    :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:

Daai man is donders lucky... Ek dink hy het op sy enorme balls geval dis hoekom hy nie dood is nie.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 10, 2014, 04:19:11 pm
I was wondering how to change a tyre with mousse. The answer seems to be - get a longer tyre lever.

https://www.youtube.com/v/V4zXw4ty3fY
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on October 10, 2014, 07:04:04 pm
Wow! That's some impressive work. You'd have thought he'd have lubed them up while he was in there! ;)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Adolf Botes on October 13, 2014, 08:08:52 am
We've got 2 Quads entered into Dakar 2015.
This years L1 (Brian Baragwanath) and L3 (Hannes Saaijman) - both very talented riders and also able to work on their quads should they encounter problems. Both of them are exceptional riders and stand a good chance of WINNING the Dakar ! Let's support our guys going !
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 13, 2014, 08:42:32 am
From Riaan via FB:
"Been back to Morocco for my preparation for Dakar 2015. Riding the New Broadlink KTM 450 Rally. Bike is completely new and nothing like the previous model. Lots of hard work and development has gone into getting this bike to where it is today. Had a small problem during the rally, but very glad it happened now and not at Dakar. This is why most of the top teams go to this rally. Very good to test your equipment and do some setup changes. Now I have to put my head down and start focusing on Dakar. The pace is really fast up front and need to hone up on my navigation."

Interesting to see that he has replaced the top left Speedocap with an RNS Tripmeter, so he has RNS primary and spare. He still has an ICO switch on the spare though.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on October 13, 2014, 08:55:53 am
Both of them are exceptional riders and stand a good chance of WINNING the Dakar !

To finish first, you first have to finish. They'll be up against chaps with years of ralley experience.

I'm not deflating their bubble here, all the the best to them!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 13, 2014, 09:36:13 am
Seems like this guy can ride a bit....

https://www.youtube.com/v/A_xy967pRgc
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on October 13, 2014, 11:38:40 am
Both of them are exceptional riders and stand a good chance of WINNING the Dakar !

To finish first, you first have to finish. They'll be up against chaps with years of ralley experience.

I'm not deflating their bubble here, all the the best to them!

good luck guys - it's a tough race and you first have to beat THIS guy!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cu1jD6_8YE0/UriOuHBlTqI/AAAAAAAACwQ/7ULyBq6Vfoc/s1600/1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 13, 2014, 10:41:29 pm
Via FB:
"D-5 for ‪#‎Merzouga2014‬. D<80 for ‪#‎Dakar2015‬.
What we can see here is John's bike which is ready to be shipped from Australia to France.....
John will be using the unique failsafe roadbook control system, which is developed in collaboration with Highway Dirt Bikes. The roadbook holder is the 'alpha 1' version, featuring updates parts and a new cartridge, which allows more flexibility.
New ''notes'' accessory will also be tested. This, simple, accessory allows riders to have their notes on the top of the roadbook and having two sides it means that more information can be written in the ''note'' accessory!..."


That is one seriously sexy roadbook, with even sexier thumb switches.
All being well, if the stars align and the courier service delivers on time, we should see one bike running this RB+switch at Amageza.  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 13, 2014, 11:40:36 pm
That is one seriously sexy roadbook, with even sexier thumb switches.
All being well, if the stars align and the courier service delivers on time, we should see one bike running this RB+switch at Amageza.  :peepwall:

You think? ;D Those thumb switches look really cool. You will see the one I currently have. Lasts only until the first lowside to the left. :imaposer:

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on October 14, 2014, 08:22:35 am
:) I won't be running the Aurora roadbook, but I will be running the HDB switches....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 14, 2014, 01:23:46 pm
Interesting picture of the Honda rally bike, showing their carbon fibre tower construction.
The blue box is the Iritrack, which looks a bit smaller than in previous years, I think?
i am not sure what the yellow container is under the PI of PIAA?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on October 14, 2014, 01:37:07 pm
I must say, for me personally, the Honda rally bikes are the best looking machines. Would love to take one for a spin.

The Katooms look too much like a 1190 or V-Strom.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on October 14, 2014, 02:31:54 pm
Maybe its just me, but I prefer the look of the 2012 KTM450RR to the 2014 one....


2014
(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/81066_COMA_KTM_Rally_Dakar_2014_1403_4500.jpg)



2012
(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/marc-coma-won-t-ride-in-dakar-2013-replaced-by-kurt-caselli-53304_1.jpg)


 :patch:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: cocky on October 14, 2014, 02:41:18 pm
Maybe its just me, but I prefer the look of the 2012 KTM450RR to the 2014 one....


2014
(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/81066_COMA_KTM_Rally_Dakar_2014_1403_4500.jpg)



2012
(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/marc-coma-won-t-ride-in-dakar-2013-replaced-by-kurt-caselli-53304_1.jpg)


 :patch:
True story, but the KTM factory says the bikes changed because the riders requested the clear fairings for better visibility when standing.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 15, 2014, 04:15:22 am
Yes, I would imagine that is actually quite an advantage. You cannot see the near foreground on a rally bike sitting down.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on October 15, 2014, 10:52:43 am
Maybe its just me, but I prefer the look of the 2012 KTM450RR to the 2014 one....

Nee jis ek weet nie, altwee het my papnat.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on October 17, 2014, 02:14:04 pm
From Wessel via FB:  :o

"They said one must try everything in life...so, I took a short ride in an ambulance....and the 1190 KTM have to be serviced... The F250 look much better than an ambulance and the 450 Rally Replica slower and better around corners... It is better to stay focus and learn from mistakes...nobody needs to take a ride in an ambulance...it is no fun...and they drive very slow.  THANKS to the people in the ambulance...they were fantastic...and everybody dont worry, this was a big wake-up call, but I will be at the Dakar and thank God every second for that!"


Repeat after me:
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
I shall not injure myself before Dakar.
Bliksem!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 18, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Marc Coma Inspirational, enjoy watching this video from time to time.

http://www.youtube.com/v/rLn7hDJGzzc
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on October 27, 2014, 04:22:34 pm
cool pic of Laia Sanz in the Merzouga Rally.  :thumleft:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10633485_781133388614229_3809483829304289204_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: madmax on October 27, 2014, 05:14:06 pm
and in other news.... Laia Sanz has joined the Honda HRC team for Dakar 2015!!!!!  Go go go Laia!!!!  :thumleft:

https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1)

(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/946633_713285008748011_8390214856623316010_n.jpg?oh=76e52e0aa1c0f3fc832146f08fc83af9&oe=5485CF01)

"Començo una nova etapa amb #Honda HRC i estic molt il·lusionada d'anar al proper #Dakar amb aquests quatre grans pilots: Joan Barreda, Paulo Gonçalves, Hélder Rodrigues i Jeremías Israel Moltes gràcies a tots!

I start a new project with #Honda HRC and I am very happy to go next #Dakar with these great four drivers: Joan Barreda, Paulo Goncalves, Hélder Rodrigues and Israel Jeremias. Thanks!"

this gonna be her best chance to get top results i think
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on October 31, 2014, 02:59:11 pm
and in other news.... Laia Sanz has joined the Honda HRC team for Dakar 2015!!!!!  Go go go Laia!!!!  :thumleft:

https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/Laiasanzfanpage/photos/a.209726739103843.49767.199216283488222/713285008748011/?type=1)

(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/946633_713285008748011_8390214856623316010_n.jpg?oh=76e52e0aa1c0f3fc832146f08fc83af9&oe=5485CF01)

"Començo una nova etapa amb #Honda HRC i estic molt il·lusionada d'anar al proper #Dakar amb aquests quatre grans pilots: Joan Barreda, Paulo Gonçalves, Hélder Rodrigues i Jeremías Israel Moltes gràcies a tots!

I start a new project with #Honda HRC and I am very happy to go next #Dakar with these great four drivers: Joan Barreda, Paulo Goncalves, Hélder Rodrigues and Israel Jeremias. Thanks!"

this gonna be her best chance to get top results i think

Laia inside the top10 overall for 2015 after finishing 16th this year... any backers? I think she's going to make it this time even if only by a koekhaar. That's a big statement, I realise that.

While we're at top10's... Riaan? Hy en Laia was bitter naby aan dieselfde pace laas jaar. Ek hoop hy kan haar beat, miskien vir 8ste of 9de.

Early December might be a good time for us to start posting our top10's up?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Bubby on November 09, 2014, 11:37:11 am
Yamaha WR450F Rally

Yamaha WR450F Rally: born for rally-raids

Unprecedented, this new WR450F Rally is distinctly different from the previous Yamaha YZ450F Rally and features a single carbon-fibre fuel cell - as opposed to the five of its predecessor - for an equivalent capacity. As the riders Olivier Pain, Alessandro Botturi and Michael Metge were able to appreciate during October tests, this choice allows for an optimal weight distribution and improves the general balance of the machine. Narrower and more compact, the WR450F Rally is more manoeuvrable and easier to place. But this solution is only one of a number of improvements made to the machine that, among other things, gains an electric starter, without increasing overall weight and a six speed gearbox. The exhaust pipe has been supplied by the famous Akrapovic brand. Finally, in terms of looks, the WR450F Rally boosts new bodywork that gives it an even more modern profile.

http://www.youtube.com/v/HxtJVYvHxIc


Technical Specifications

Engine type: Liquid-cooled, single-cylinder with electric-start
Displacement: 450 cc
Power output: n.a.
Lubrication system: Dry sump
Fueling System: Fuel injection
Clutch type: Rekluse clutch parts
Ignition system: CDI
Starter system: Electric start
Transmission system: 6 speed gearbox
Final transmission: DID chain

Frame: Aluminium Bilateral Beam
Front suspension system: KYB Std front fork with Yamaha Factory Team settings
Rear suspension system: Factory swingarm (with water tank), KYB Factory rear suspension
Front brake: Motomaster front disc (300mm)
Rear brake: Motomaster rear disc (245mm)
Front tyre: Haan front wheel, Michelin tyre
Rear tyre: Haan rear wheel (rear hub with damper), Michelin tyre
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 09, 2014, 03:12:36 pm
Is it just me, or does it look a bit "chunky"?
Interesting the lack of a roadbook thumbswitch. I guess the green button on the LH bar advances the RB, with the red button on the RH bar reverses it?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Bubby on November 09, 2014, 03:35:19 pm
2015 KTM 450 Rally
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on November 10, 2014, 04:07:12 pm
oh my goodness.
Motorcycle eye candy does not get much better than this!!  :o
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: White Rhino on November 10, 2014, 04:28:20 pm
That KTM is one tight luminous package - glows in the dark - very neat !
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Tommy Transalp on November 10, 2014, 04:57:30 pm
Is it just me, or does it look a bit "chunky"?
Interesting the lack of a roadbook thumbswitch. I guess the green button on the LH bar advances the RB, with the red button on the RH bar reverses it?
I think it's the rear fueltanks that make it look "chunky".... but could also be the camera angle.... wonder how much fuel these bikes carry?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on November 11, 2014, 05:39:29 pm
Yamaha WR450F Rally

Yamaha WR450F Rally: born for rally-raids

Unprecedented, this new WR450F Rally is distinctly different from the previous Yamaha YZ450F Rally and features a single carbon-fibre fuel cell - as opposed to the five of its predecessor - for an equivalent capacity. As the riders Olivier Pain, Alessandro Botturi and Michael Metge were able to appreciate during October tests, this choice allows for an optimal weight distribution and improves the general balance of the machine. Narrower and more compact, the WR450F Rally is more manoeuvrable and easier to place. But this solution is only one of a number of improvements made to the machine that, among other things, gains an electric starter, without increasing overall weight and a six speed gearbox. The exhaust pipe has been supplied by the famous Akrapovic brand. Finally, in terms of looks, the WR450F Rally boosts new bodywork that gives it an even more modern profile.

http://www.youtube.com/v/HxtJVYvHxIc


Technical Specifications

Engine type: Liquid-cooled, single-cylinder with electric-start
Displacement: 450 cc
Power output: n.a.
Lubrication system: Dry sump
Fueling System: Fuel injection
Clutch type: Rekluse clutch parts
Ignition system: CDI
Starter system: Electric start
Transmission system: 6 speed gearbox
Final transmission: DID chain

Frame: Aluminium Bilateral Beam
Front suspension system: KYB Std front fork with Yamaha Factory Team settings
Rear suspension system: Factory swingarm (with water tank), KYB Factory rear suspension
Front brake: Motomaster front disc (300mm)
Rear brake: Motomaster rear disc (245mm)
Front tyre: Haan front wheel, Michelin tyre
Rear tyre: Haan rear wheel (rear hub with damper), Michelin tyre
That front end  :eek7: So Yamaha will now run with the WR instead of using the YZ as a base from previous years ? Problem with the Japanese teams is they seem to try and reverse engineer a enduro bike for rally while the KTM is a rally bike through and through.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 13, 2014, 08:54:36 am
One of our foreign Amageza competitors, next stop Dakar!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 13, 2014, 09:01:20 am
From from one of the Australians. That packing is to tight, I wonder where the sheep went?

The freight agent asked me this morning if the dangerous goods inspectors would be able to see the bike for their inspection before it flies. "Errr, no - not without removing 15 bolts to take the end of the crate off and then unpacking a lot of gear to get to the bike. They'll have to take care to note how they unpack it or they won't get everything back in - it's a tight fit!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 13, 2014, 09:03:09 am
From gmeenaghan@thenational.ae

It is January 2014 and Sam Sunderland is competing in the infamously laborious Dakar Rally. Having traversed the rocky plains of Argentina but before reaching the salt flats of Bolivia, the Dubai-based Briton is completing a lengthy road section and marvelling at the masses of motorsport fans who have turned out to witness the world’s most testing endurance race.

On a long straight road, Sunderland, riding for Honda’s factory team, stops at a red light. Throngs of fans surround him and his fellow competitors. And then...

“I stopped at a traffic light and this woman ran up to me with a baby and put her baby on me to get a picture,” Sunderland recalls. “I was like ‘Woah! Woah!’ and I’m trying not to burn the baby because my bike is hot. The woman stepped back into the crowd to take the picture and got swallowed by the swarm of people. The lights went green and I was left standing with this baby asking ‘Who’s is this kid?’”

Sunderland still shakes his head in disbelief as he recalls his impressions of the Dakar almost a year after becoming the first Englishman in 15 years to win a stage. “It blew my mind,” he says from under his omnipresent Red Bull baseball cap. “I was riding through Argentina and there were people 50-deep across both sides of the road for miles and miles. It gets more than four million actual physical spectators. It’s just crazy. Everywhere you go, there are people cheering you on.”

During a 16-day event that can see riders on their bikes for up to 12 hours a day and being forced to survive on less than four hours of sleep each night, the size of spectator support can act as encouragement. “Sometimes we have road sections and they can be long, like four or five hours,” he says. “You start out and you are like ‘Yeah!’ and pumping your fist to the fans, after two hours it becomes just a raise of the hand, after three it’s like a nod of the head... It’s nuts, but I love it.”

That final sentence seems to perfectly sum up Sunderland, an outgoing risk-it-all action man who lives life for the moment. At Dakar, the then-24 year-old was the youngest rider to win a stage yet speaking at the recent launch of the new KTM UAE Racing Team in Dubai, he appeared grounded and gregarious, eloquent and effusive.

Born in Bournemouth in the south of England, Sunderland visited Dubai in 2009. He was recovering from an accident that had left him with two broken legs, but he immediately spotted potential in the UAE and returned permanently soon after. While riding and having fun at a track near Jebel Ali, KTM invited him to join their local team.

Within a few months he was racing motocross and endurance raids across the Middle East and won the 2010 UAE National Baja Championship. He made his Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge debut shortly after and entered the Cross Country World Championships, winning three stages and beating out competition from riders of far higher profile, including serial champion Marc Coma.

After winning stages at the Australasia Safari in Australia, he was offered the chance to ride for Honda’s factory team at the famous Dakar. Without Honda’s backing, it would almost certainly not have been possible given the financial demands of the two-week race come in at around €100,000 (Dh475,000).

Sunderland says he will for ever be grateful to Honda, but the three-year relationship between the two ended earlier this year when the Briton was approached by KTM, winners of the past 13 consecutive Dakar rallies.

“Signing with factory KTM team is a dream come true for me,” he says. “They are the pinnacle of off-road and were looking for a younger guy. I’m 25 now, but still pretty young for the rallying because all the top guys are 30-plus. I couldn’t be happier; to work side-by-side with Marc Coma and Jordi Viladoms, who was second last year.

“It is a great atmosphere; everyone is there for the same reason and it’s just a good laugh. And when it comes to it, everybody has the right mentality to win.”

Sunderland will continue to be based in Dubai, where he competes in the local Emirates Desert and Dubai Motocross championships alongside Mohammed Balooshi. The Emirati, a multiple champion on a regional level, says he finds his British teammate inspirational.

“Sam has brought a new level to the sport here in the UAE,” Balooshi says. “And what an amazing story: being based here, but being chosen by the KTM factory team. It shows you that anything is possible and I find great motivation every time I speak with him. He is such a good guy and never shy to share information if you are lacking, which is what you want in a teammate.”

Sunderland might have had a lot more teammates if he had pursued his other childhood talent, football. He trialled with Southampton FC as a youth and could have been in the same academy year as Gareth Bale – the world’s most expensive player – had he not opted to skip a Sunday match in favour of motocross.

“Maybe I would have been financially better off if I’d stuck with football, but I love my life,” says Sunderland, who sports two eye-catching skull tattoos on the backs of his calves and his name in Arabic on his arm. “I couldn’t ask for anything better.”

He lives in Jumeirah Village Circle for easy access to his desert playground and has brought over childhood friend Jake Shipton to help “kick my ass every once in a while to keep my level high”.

“It’s a dream come true for me to be out here and with Sam,” Shipton says. “Sometimes when I go out into the desert on the bike, I just look around and see camels and stuff and have to pinch myself. Everything is unreal. It’s amazing.”

Shipton’s early impressions of Dubai have only served to strengthen Sunderland’s own belief that the city is the best place for him to be based as he prepares for another crack at Dakar next January, followed by the Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge a few months later.

“I’m loving life, dude. In terms of training out in the desert, Dubai is awesome,” he says, adding that he still escapes in the summer to train in the more hospitable climes of the United States or Belgium.

“The UAE is one of the last countries in the world where as a rider you have so much freedom. It’s magic. Even after five years of living here, every time I go out, I still have this overwhelming sense of freedom. Sometimes you are riding through the dunes and you find the biggest peak around and you can just stop, sit down and look across hundreds of miles of nothingness; an ocean of sand.”

While the desert offers instant gratification, nothing has yet come close to replicating the delayed thrill of his stage win in Dakar. Such is the daily routine of a rider competing in the most challenging raid of the year, Sunderland did not appreciate his achievement until he was back on his bike early the next morning.

“At the time, you have no time. You are like a robot,” he says. “ The only time that it really sunk in was on the liaison at 3am at minus-five in the middle of Argentina. I was riding along and I remember screaming in my helmet ‘Yeaaaaah!’ That was awesome – then at the end of the day, I broke the engine. Motorsport is such an emotional rollercoaster, dude.”

No rider will ever claim anything different: the sport offers massive highs and crippling lows. Likewise, all riders agree that, in terms of broken bones and other injuries, it is a matter of if not when. Only a relative few, however, have faced the challenge that is Dakar. And even fewer have been left holding the baby quite like Sam Sunderland was at a red light in Argentina.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 13, 2014, 09:04:47 am
And Chaleco is out of Dakar 2015!

The [Chileno] national pilot Francisco Lopez will undergo this surgery Wednesday on his right knee, which will be [performed] by Dr. Fernando Radice, which seeks to restore joint stability and damaged ligaments in an old injury.
Due to increased complications in the affected area, and strong pain 'Chaleco' has felt in the past year, the physician decided that the operation is [necessary]. This obviously leaves out the next edition of the Dakar Rally Argentina-Chile 2015.
"It was a very complex day we've been seeing the reviews and realized that the knee injury must be operated this week. This leaves me out of Dakar, with no options. We knew from earlier this year that the injury was complicated, but we are optimistic that there is a recovery in the medium term. I'm under orders from Fernando Radice, who is my doctor and also specializes in knee(s), so [I am] calm, "said Lopez.
Radice, in turn, provided that "throughout this stage we have been doing assessments from the physical point of view and in preparation for the Dakar, and joint responses were not what we expected. The complications have been increasing, especially at the knee. "
For the Chilean international, the situation is clear: "It's a strong injury and slow recovery: they are six months away from competitive activity. Then we will see what the future holds. Within minutes, I think I can only thank the private companies that have always supported me and very strong, it makes me think of my projection in motorsports. We also give thanks to my family, friends and the people who support me everywhere and I want a good recovery. "

As for his absence from the [pinnacle of world offroad], he said: "The Dakar was for many years a summer classic for me, but now will be different. Always on this date was preparing the competition, the race came on me and now I live differently. I'm concerned have surgery, recovery and start facing life in a different way, seeing the outside Dakar. I follow you on television and social networks, Chileans wishing to make a good career, take advantage of enjoying the days off in Iquique and going all out on the road. "
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 14, 2014, 11:16:49 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/3tF7ofub_rE

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: TVB on November 14, 2014, 01:03:03 pm
 :sip: Being a bit of a Yamaha fan I must say a very ugly looking WR they got there!

The Honda sure looks the business and the KTM is just awesome stunning....ran out of words here!  :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 15, 2014, 08:22:13 pm
So how's this for a dream phone call? Picked up from ADV:

"The most amazing news ever. I just got an email from my friend Cesare who came second in the Dakar Challenge at the Australsian Safari. When the winner pulled out the ASO called him and he picked up the ball and ran with it !!!! 
In two weeks he organised his bike a 450RR off a mate and somehow found the cash via his mates. He sent me a pic of his number and will follow it up with some images of their celebration  here I was thinking that he would be bunkering down for winter !! Talk about a last minute hail mary. Dudes going to Dakar and he will finish.
Thats it, 14.11.2014 and I've lost my mind 50 days out  Good on the ASO for sharing the love and giving him a chance "


The guy must be bouncing off the walls.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: TVB on November 16, 2014, 11:23:21 pm
Wow, great stuff!!  :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: JK on November 17, 2014, 09:46:51 am
Heeee haaaa yes almost time again for the KTM Comatazation show !!!!!  :lol8:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Skaiidawg on November 17, 2014, 10:25:55 am
Interesting the lack of a roadbook thumbswitch.

It is there you just need to look closely.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Skaiidawg on November 17, 2014, 10:30:26 am
Both of them are exceptional riders and stand a good chance of WINNING the Dakar !

To finish first, you first have to finish. They'll be up against chaps with years of ralley experience.

I'm not deflating their bubble here, all the the best to them!

good luck guys - it's a tough race and you first have to beat THIS guy!

I share the same sentiment as above stated. Patronelli and his brother are world class and so is Seb Husseini, having said that good luck to them both and I do hop for a good result.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Skaiidawg on November 17, 2014, 10:33:48 am

i am not sure what the yellow container is under the PI of PIAA?

Steve, that looks like the BALISE (locator beacon)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 17, 2014, 11:06:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/2YC3wNTZw20
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on November 17, 2014, 10:08:43 pm
I only noticed now that Coma won the Dos Sertoes in Brazil - I think that was in August already, right?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zacapa on November 18, 2014, 12:28:57 am
Just came across this thread again now after a long time. Epic build up to the greatest race on earth and well documented here on WD.
I'll contribute my 0.10 worth when I get all my words together.
In the meantime keep the thread laive guys - This is gonna be epic for 2015 Dakar - wish I was there personally
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on November 18, 2014, 12:40:34 pm
Any factory teams besides KTM and Honda ?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on November 18, 2014, 01:49:55 pm
Any factory teams besides KTM and Honda ?


Cyril Despres in a Peugeot....   :biggrin:

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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: JK on November 18, 2014, 06:09:53 pm
Yes let old Ceeeryl go and make the car guys "Despressed"  :lol8: We will focus on the Coma show  :ricky:
Buuut i will say that that Peugeot looks the beezneez  :eek7:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 18, 2014, 06:28:56 pm
Ja Cyril and Peterhansel deserve each other. I hope they really get on one another tits. ;D
Horrible Little men with short man síndrome, both of them.

El Matador, on the other hand - I love the guy. Hope he thrashes them both but somehow I think not.

I only noticed now that Coma won the Dos Sertoes in Brazil - I think that was in August already, right?

Ja, actually I think it was late august this year.

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 18, 2014, 08:12:41 pm
Just came across this thread again now after a long time. Epic build up to the greatest race on earth and well documented here on WD.
I'll contribute my 0.10 worth when I get all my words together.
In the meantime keep the thread laive guys - This is gonna be epic for 2015 Dakar - wish I was there personally

You read this one as well didn´t you? http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=141879.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=141879.0)

Check out the Racing index if you need to see more.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zacapa on November 18, 2014, 09:29:00 pm
 You read this one as well didn´t you? http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=141879.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=141879.0)

Check out the Racing index if you need to see more.
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Oh yes certainly. And I am sure that the guys on ADV are going to get their secret site together once more for torrent links for the daily updates once the rallye is underway.
Counting the days and hoping for a red January with a bit of orange from time to time making it interesting...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on November 18, 2014, 09:38:00 pm
Ja Cyril and Peterhansel deserve each other. I hope they really get on one another tits. ;D
Horrible Little men with short man síndrome, both of them.

El Matador, on the other hand - I love the guy. Hope he thrashes them both but somehow I think not.

I only noticed now that Coma won the Dos Sertoes in Brazil - I think that was in August already, right?

Ja, actually I think it was late august this year.


Peterhansel looks like he has got a big head, no really :)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on November 19, 2014, 10:45:07 am
Last Friday Team Pont Grup Yamaha JVO Racing 2015 presented their team for this year's Rally Dakar. Riders Joan Pedrero and Marc Guasch couldn’t stop smiling while riding the Yamaha YZ450F JVO Rally Raid. They put on a little show in front of the press and motor enthusiasts and can’t wait for Le Dakar to start.

bike doesn't look bad at all!!!  :drif:  the overhanging Nav tower looks a bit weird though....

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10620250_10154798548425487_4008194733594076208_o.jpg)

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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on November 19, 2014, 12:42:44 pm
bike doesn't look bad at all!!!  :drif: 

Love it! But I'm biased towards the blue stuff....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LDV on November 19, 2014, 12:56:19 pm
Always wondered how to wheelie while cornering in sand.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: TVB on November 19, 2014, 01:59:30 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: Awesome Yamaha!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 19, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
Always wondered how to wheelie while cornering in sand.

And he is not meerkatting either. What would Jan Staal say? ;D

Wish I could ride like that.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LDV on November 19, 2014, 03:08:57 pm
Nog n paar
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 20, 2014, 10:54:03 am
Schedule is out.
The bikes have a different rest day to the trucks and cars.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on November 20, 2014, 11:07:07 am
Frans Verhoeven geared up and ready to face the competition with his YZ450F Rally.
This year the Yamaha Netherlands Verhoeven Team rider will battle against 163 other bikes.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10371310_10154802015530487_8698218810811599634_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on November 20, 2014, 11:07:28 am
Goodness  :o :o :o

Stage 12 - 1,024km on a 450 with a 726km Liaison and a 298km Special..............  Eina!!!!

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Takashi on November 20, 2014, 11:10:26 am
Goodness  :o :o :o

Stage 12 - 1,024km on a 450 with a 726km Liaison and a 298km Special..............  Eina!!!!



Stage 8

24k liaison followed by a 781km SS... WTF!!!
This is going to be epic.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 20, 2014, 11:16:20 am
Not to mention

Stage 1: 663 liaison 170km special. = 833km
Stage 2: 107 liaison 518km special !!!!!!
Stage 4: 900 km!!  with 500 km liaison :P
Stage 9 & 11 both over 800km... :eek:

Most of these liaisons are on tar. ::)

And guys are moaning about 400km liaisons on the Amageza. Amageza is way better if you think about because the liaisons are restricted to interesting dirt roads.

Alexander here is your target - 4500km of Specials, 4500km liasons actually worth riding! :deal:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 20, 2014, 02:20:02 pm
wif peecha
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on November 20, 2014, 03:09:55 pm
Nog n paar
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That is how n rally bike should look and handle  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 20, 2014, 04:43:51 pm
Now isn't that pretty  :thumleft:
A yellow number on a South African flag, when last did we see that?

It looks so good, I think I'll order a few shirts.
From Riaan's FB:
Please support our Dakar Rally efforts by buying a T shirt for R 200 bucks, they are being printed and will be ready on the 1st December, please pre order now so that we can arrange shipping, ladies sizes available too, mail accounts@banditsigns.co.za
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 20, 2014, 04:48:32 pm
Via KTM Racing FB:
We're getting ready for the Dakar 2015. KTM goes for its 14th Dakar Rally victory with 4x winner Red Bull's Marc Coma the leading KTM rider. But there's much more to the Dakar and to the team than riders on their bikes. At KTM Racing HQ in Mattighofen Austria there is a hive of activity as shipments get ready to ship to Argentina for the start on January 3

They are taking so many spares, I wonder if an announcement is imminent that Joan Barreda will be riding for them  :pot:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LDV on November 20, 2014, 05:54:41 pm
Is Riaan a factory rider or does he only ride a factory 450rr bike?


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Jakkals on November 20, 2014, 07:12:09 pm

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That is how n rally bike should look and handle  :thumleft:

Ek stem saam, daai fiets lyk befok en daai manne mag maar, maar hoe op gewase is hulle teen Coma,

Coma het darem baie ondervinding van die Dakar.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rolling Stone on November 20, 2014, 08:19:02 pm
bike doesn't look bad at all!!!  :drif: 

Love it! But I'm biased towards the blue stuff....
I want one of these bikes.
Absolutely love that look of the tower. Looks alien
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on November 20, 2014, 10:03:07 pm
. . . Looks alien

My thoughts exactly. VERY COOL.

They are taking so many spares, I wonder if an announcement is imminent that Joan Barreda will be riding for them  :pot:

Pretty insane how they don't just stock the tyres, but the entire wheel sets. Rider comes in. Tyre looks warn. Wheel is swopped - no fitting tyres required. Awesome (spoilt bastard factory guys)!

Not to mention

Stage 1: 663 liaison 170km special. = 833km
Stage 2: 107 liaison 518km special !!!!!!
Stage 4: 900 km!!  with 500 km liaison :P
Stage 9 & 11 both over 800km... :eek:

Those distances are looking INSANE all of a sudden. Is this what previous Dakars looked like? I can't remember those specifics.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 21, 2014, 01:05:36 am

Pretty insane how they don't just stock the tyres, but the entire wheel sets. Rider comes in. Tyre looks warn. Wheel is swopped - no fitting tyres required. Awesome (spoilt bastard factory guys)!

Not to mention

Stage 1: 663 liaison 170km special. = 833km
Stage 2: 107 liaison 518km special !!!!!!
Stage 4: 900 km!!  with 500 km liaison :P
Stage 9 & 11 both over 800km... :eek:

Those distances are looking INSANE all of a sudden. Is this what previous Dakars looked like? I can't remember those specifics.

Amazing what the Factory guys have access to. One day when Im big and past racing I want to have a support truck like one of those.

The overall distance is about 1-1,500km longer tan the last couple of years, but these distance are not strange to Dakar. That said, I think they normallyonly have one stage over 800km /yr, with the average being about 650-750km. The last time I remember a stage over 1000km was when the Dakar was still in Africa.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on November 21, 2014, 07:57:44 am
You gotta be some kind of special to handle those long liasons - it's like riding Jhb to Durban at 100km/h on a bike capable of doing 160km/h. And every other vehicle around you is travelling faster.

The concentration needed just for that is tiring in itself  ............................ I couldn't do it.  :o :o
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 09:06:12 am
David Reeve's bike being loaded and shipped to Argentina.
I truly hope the guy makes it this year. Gillian, the lady who bossed Alexander around at Amageza this year  :eek7:, is going as part of his support team again, and she undertook to keep him calm and focused on the finish.
A few interesting points:
 - the plastic bags around the ICOs and the ERTF bracket seem quite common. I guess they are prone to water damage? One of my ICOs got some condensation behind the screen after a ride through a bit of a downpour, I guess it wasn't just mine.
 - The 10th photo shows the LC-450 bike, which is basically a 690 with an EVO2 kit and a modified engine. I like, plenty.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on November 21, 2014, 09:33:46 am
wow! seeing all the preparations.... getting all excited!  :thumleft:

and this girl.....   :thumleft: :drif:
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 12:37:43 pm
Some more news on the LC-450 that I like so much, from http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25547739 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25547739)

This is the moment John has been waiting for:
The LC4-50 has passed scrutineering at Le Havre and is ready to be shipped to South America!
With this major milestone out of the way, the team now have some valuable down-time before heading over to Buenos Aires just after Christmas... goodness knows it's been a hectic few weeks with the final bike build and administration to complete!
So stand by for "Dakar Dazed II - part 3" (coming soon) for all the inside information from Dakar 2015!
Jenny xx


So is that the final scrutineering? Once they are through that, they don't need to do anything in South America? Or is this just a pre-check?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 21, 2014, 01:05:26 pm
Some more news on the LC-450 that I like so much, from

So is that the final scrutineering? Once they are through that, they don't need to do anything in South America? Or is this just a pre-check?
 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25547739)

Yip, you can "pre scrutineer" in Le Havre. Thats another big advantage of shipping to France rather than to South America.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 01:10:10 pm
Some more....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 01:12:43 pm
And some ADV guys havig fun captioning a photo:

MC: (under his breath while smiling at camera) "... So Cyreal... I win DAKAR once more time... and you get me drive of Poojoh also... yes?!?"

CDp: (behind clenched teeth) "Yes of course Marc... it ees soooo f#¤%ing easy compare to moto... I mean, you tell technicians they doing so good job, and that you 'ave no real reference... so they let the matador do upside down testing, while you scratch head an' they throw mooney at you... Peter 'as know this gig for many years... it's great...!!!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on November 21, 2014, 05:11:44 pm
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Always wondered how to wheelie while cornering in sand.

So have I!   Isn't that a coincidence :biggrin:

Some real riding going on there  :thumleft:

I've been deliberately ignoring this thread, but today I was weak  :P

Got to be stronger!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 05:50:16 pm
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Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 05:51:08 pm
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Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 05:52:27 pm
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Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 05:54:40 pm
This guy has both of his ICO thumbswitches on the left
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 21, 2014, 05:56:21 pm
And I don't want to know what this guy is doing to that bike. Get a room!  :eek7:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Kamanya on November 21, 2014, 07:32:09 pm
Schedule is out.
The bikes have a different rest day to the trucks and cars.

If you go by the distances being exactly the same, then it looks like the bikes will do the exact same route as the cars just a day later?

What of navigation then?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 21, 2014, 10:17:29 pm
Just follow the 0.7m deep trenches left by the trucks in the fesh fesh. It should be a piece of cake. ;)


Navigation on the Dakar is a little bit different. So many of the places they ride have been ridden before, theere are tracks going everywhere so its fairly easy to follow the wrong route, unless you are behind the cars and trucks. Bear in mind often the route is criss-crossed by tracks that look "well used". So many riders still get lost. Remember Neil Scott Williams in 2012? Got totally lost in the dunes of all places following the wrong tracks.

On this stage I recon the navigation will be a piece of cake because the trucks and cars really tear it up and are much easier to follow.

Went to a mine site in the Atacama in February, it was on the route of the 2011 Dakar - Remember the rally princess´s Tomb Raider story when rode her bike into a exploration shaft 15m deep? There. Anyway the tracks were still so clear. Quite amazing. The wind was beginning to do its work but you could see it was Dakar tracks because there were hundreds of them going off in a direction no one would normally drive in that part of the desert.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ktmpilot on November 21, 2014, 11:14:16 pm
Is Riaan a factory rider or does he only ride a factory 450rr bike?


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He is not a factory sponsored rider, but has a new 450 RR and a factory-supported ride which are available to be purchased by non-factory riders, sponsored for him by Broadlink. He does however have a yellow number this year, which is a first for him and pretty cool I think.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: TVB on November 21, 2014, 11:52:08 pm
Just follow the 0.7m deep trenches left by the trucks in the fesh fesh. It should be a piece of cake. ;)


Navigation on the Dakar is a little bit different. So many of the places they ride have been ridden before, theere are tracks going everywhere so its fairly easy to follow the wrong route, unless you are behind the cars and trucks. Bear in mind often the route is criss-crossed by tracks that look "well used". So many riders still get lost. Remember Neil Scott Williams in 2012? Got totally lost in the dunes of all places following the wrong tracks.

On this stage I recon the navigation will be a piece of cake because the trucks and cars really tear it up and are much easier to follow.

Went to a mine site in the Atacama in February, it was on the route of the 2011 Dakar - Remember the rally princess´s Tomb Raider story when rode her bike into a exploration shaft 15m deep? There. Anyway the tracks were still so clear. Quite amazing. The wind was beginning to do its work but you could see it was Dakar tracks because there were hundreds of them going off in a direction no one would normally drive in that part of the desert.

Very interesting information, thanks!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: oppiklippe on November 22, 2014, 05:55:07 pm
oops wrong thread
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Africamike on November 24, 2014, 01:57:56 pm
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BFG on November 24, 2014, 02:24:18 pm

He is not a factory sponsored rider, but has a new 450 RR and a factory-supported ride which are available to be purchased by non-factory riders, sponsored for him by Broadlink. He does however have a yellow number this year, which is a first for him and pretty cool I think.


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Please fill me in? What is the yellow number mean?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on November 24, 2014, 02:37:35 pm

He is not a factory sponsored rider, but has a new 450 RR and a factory-supported ride which are available to be purchased by non-factory riders, sponsored for him by Broadlink. He does however have a yellow number this year, which is a first for him and pretty cool I think.


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Please fill me in? What is the yellow number mean?

Means he is classified as an "Elite Rider" which has certain privileges such as being able to start near the front even if he came in late the day before (with some limitations - I think they can only invoke that privileged once or twice).
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BFG on November 24, 2014, 02:59:24 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bud500 on November 24, 2014, 03:08:21 pm
Sub.

Those distances look daunting... Especially combined in one event.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zetman on November 24, 2014, 04:42:17 pm
 :biggrin: Die lyk of dit die ou Dakar was wat nou n ander naam gekry het

http://www.africarace.com/en/edition2015/routes.html (http://www.africarace.com/en/edition2015/routes.html)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 24, 2014, 09:53:35 pm
More at http://derestricted.com/racing/rally-team-shooting-2015 (http://derestricted.com/racing/rally-team-shooting-2015)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 24, 2014, 09:58:43 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bud500 on November 24, 2014, 10:27:24 pm
Evidently I need much bigger footpegs.....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 24, 2014, 11:22:00 pm
Man those KTM´s are beautiful machines  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on November 25, 2014, 05:18:27 am
Jis, hierdie een lyk of hy beweeg teen die spoed van wit with fisant kak!

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=153875.0;attach=391503;image)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 25, 2014, 08:32:23 am
From David via FB:
645 vehicles passed the mandatory technical and administrative checks at Le Havre Port on Thursday and Friday and were cleared to set sail for Argentina, where the rally will get under way on January 4.
If the Dakar is hallowed ground for all rally raid drivers and riders, then Le Havre is the great festival where competitors get together, exchange impressions and get up-to-date on one another… Ever since 2009, the loading of vehicles at the second biggest port in France has become a rite of passage and, in a way, the first stage of the rally.
The crowds relish the unique opportunity to see the vehicles and competitors from up close, while the drivers and riders ease into the racing mindset. To get here, some of them covered distances worthy of any of the 13 stages of the Dakar, with competitors flocking from the UK, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Russia and even the US.
The hodgepodge of vehicles and the crowds which turned out in force to gaze at them created a pleasant South American atmosphere. Once the safety devices (Iritrack and GPS) were set up, stickers were in place and customs formalities were out of the way, they all turned their minds to Buenos Aires, home to the start of the 2015 Dakar, full of impatience and excitement of sorts.
Le Havre Port's Ro-Ro terminal became the world's biggest motor sports logistics platform for 48 hours. 140 people made sure everything went smoothly during these two days of scrutineering on behalf of the rally organisers. They handled a 4.6 km line of vehicles, ready to be loaded onto the Grande Amburgo next weekend. Grimaldi's 200-metre cargo ship and its load of 645 race, assistance, press and organisation vehicles will then embark on a 21-day transatlantic crossing to Euro America Port, near Buenos Aires. The competitors will be there to retrieve them on December 31, a mere four days before the start. The real one!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MartV on November 25, 2014, 10:32:11 am
Holy smoke, I have gone through this entire thread today, I too was holding off thinking it's to soon, boy am I impressed with all the info and pics, thanks to everyone that contributed, will keep an eager eye on the rest of this amazing thread.
Have a super rest of 2014 before the start of the  :laughing4:DAKAR :laughing4:

 :sip:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 25, 2014, 07:28:23 pm
The best news I heard today is that Alexander Nel, Race Director of the Amageza Rally has been formally invited to attend the event with the organisation as an observer with A.S.O. What this means is he will be meeting guys like Ettienne Lavigne and other high profile guys. Its going to be huge, as this is the biggest racing event on the planet, and our own Amageza will now grow on the back of all that Alexander learns there.

I am almost certain that the Amageza 2015 will be part of the Dakar Challenge, which means one lucky entrant (who has not undertaken an FIM rally recently) will have the opportunity to win an entry to the 2016 Dakar rally, a prize worht well over R100,000.00 :ricky:

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on November 25, 2014, 07:54:02 pm
The best news I heard today is that Alexander Nel, Race Director of the Amageza Rally has been formally invited to attend the event with the organisation as an observer with A.S.O. What this means is he will be meeting guys like Ettienne Lavigne and other high profile guys. Its going to be huge, as this is the biggest racing event on the planet, and our own Amageza will now grow on the back of all that Alexander learns there.

I am almost certain that the Amageza 2015 will be part of the Dakar Challenge, which means one lucky entrant (who has not undertaken an FIM rally recently) will have the opportunity to win an entry to the 2016 Dakar rally, a prize worht well over R100,000.00 :ricky:

 

Wow. What an honour!

Well done Alex

Title: 2015 Dakar Rally funding for privateer Riaan van Niekerk on the KTM Factory Team
Post by: SteveD on November 25, 2014, 09:29:41 pm
Via FB. Just do it


Short Summary
I am Riaan van Niekerk and I have been racing motorcyles for most of my life. In 2013 I was fortunate enough to have a crack at the Dakar Rally. My title sponsor Broadlink funded myself and my team mate Darryl Curtis and we bought a ride with the KTM Factory team.

We were able to do this through the trust relationship that we have built with them over the last 15 years, racing the world extreme events like the Red Bull Erzberg Rodeo and the Red Bull Romaniacs to name  a few. Yes, the package is expensive, but it puts us on another paying field and we are able to compete with the best Factory riders in the world. Darryl injured himself at last years Dakar and will be managing me and taking care of the media.

One of our sponsors have pulled out and this has compromised my effort for 2015, I finshed 13th overall in 2013, 12th overall in 2014, I won the Rookie award and Elf trophy both years. The ASO have recognised me as a professional athlete and have given me Elite status and a yellow number, my dream is to finish in the top ten at the Dakar and I am appealing to my fans to help me get there in any way possible.

What We Need & What You Get
Our Dakar budget is 200 000 dollars, this includes the Rally of Maroc, the Amageza rally and the Dakar. We are 50 000 dollars short, we saw the crowd funding site and thought this would be a great way to appeal to our fans.
We have designed and printed a high quality Broadlink KTM Rally team t shirt and cap that we can offer you as well as a number of shirts and memorabilia signed by the KTM Factory Dakar riders.
We have no choice but to reach our goal, we are driven by passion and driven by dreams.
 
The Impact
We  invite you our fans to engage with us and follow us throughout the Dakar on your daily sport channel as well as our blog and website www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za). We will be posting live daily updates from the bivouac with voice clips and images.
We have had three successful Dakar rallies and have a huge following, be part of it.

Risks & Challenges
Dakar is exciting, yet dangerous, but 26 years of off road racing has given me the experience to succeed, back me and ill keep you on your toes.

Other Ways You Can Help
Please use the Indiegogo share tools and get the word out there, do you know that there are 1 million people at the start of the Dakar, 4,5 million people along the route and 1 million people at the finish ?
Please share this with your friends and post comments on our blog.

http://igg.me/at/riaan-at-dakar/x (http://igg.me/at/riaan-at-dakar/x)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on November 26, 2014, 09:02:35 am
Go Riaan Go!
I'm buying a T-shirt
[I couldn't help giggling at the Freudian typo, though . . . see next post]
Title: Re: 2015 Dakar Rally funding for privateer Riaan van Niekerk on the KTM Factory Team
Post by: Rokie on November 26, 2014, 09:04:13 am
Via FB. Just do it

Yes, the package is expensive, but it puts us on another paying field


 ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Dakar Rally funding for privateer Riaan van Niekerk on the KTM Factory Team
Post by: bud500 on November 26, 2014, 09:07:06 am
Via FB. Just do it

Yes, the package is expensive, but it puts us on another paying field


 ;D

 :lol8: Saw that too, Freud is a bitch
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BFG on November 26, 2014, 09:22:35 am
The best news I heard today is that Alexander Nel, Race Director of the Amageza Rally has been formally invited to attend the event with the organisation as an observer with A.S.O. What this means is he will be meeting guys like Ettienne Lavigne and other high profile guys. Its going to be huge, as this is the biggest racing event on the planet, and our own Amageza will now grow on the back of all that Alexander learns there.

I am almost certain that the Amageza 2015 will be part of the Dakar Challenge, which means one lucky entrant (who has not undertaken an FIM rally recently) will have the opportunity to win an entry to the 2016 Dakar rally, a prize worht well over R100,000.00 :ricky:



That's great to hear, well done Alexander.
 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: dookie on November 26, 2014, 10:49:38 am
Man those KTM´s are beautiful machines  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:
That they are indeed.

Dookie has got a woodie.............
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: wiledog_X on November 26, 2014, 03:53:21 pm
Catherine Houlès and Sandrine Ridet will be the only 100% female team to take part of this year's rally. Used to other rallies, their only goal will be to cross the finish line.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10828035_829523260440316_3719288593142604182_o.jpg)

you can't miss that pink truck! good luck ladies!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BFG on November 26, 2014, 05:28:37 pm
Catherine Houlès and Sandrine Ridet will be the only 100% female team to take part of this year's rally. Used to other rallies, their only goal will be to cross the finish line.


you can't miss that pink truck! good luck ladies!  :thumleft:

Looks like a fairly standard Isuzu.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on November 26, 2014, 05:37:21 pm
Looks like a fairly standard Isuzu.

Your own avatar is my answer to your comment.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Rokie on November 30, 2014, 09:11:21 pm
Dakar fever has been quite subdued on this thread . . .
Returning in 5 . . . 4 . . .
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Road Hog on December 01, 2014, 01:14:50 am
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on December 02, 2014, 04:36:09 pm
K, so I'll show you mine and then you show me yours?

In trying to come up with my top10 I realised just how wide open this thing is. I had a really rough time finalising my list and in the end decided to just go with I came up with first and splash in a touch of patriotism... not out of sympathy, but because the man can do it. Go Riaan!!!

1. Coma (Just too much class)
2. Barreda
3. Helder
4. Sunderland
5. Viladoms
6. Pain
7. Goncalves
8. Casteu
9. Metge (I really enjoyed his pace last year under the wing of Despres. Now that he has more freedom than a support rider...?)
10. van Niekerk (vat hulle vas swaar, gooi mielies!!!)

11. Laia Sanz (she matched Riaan for pace last year and I would really love to see her in the top10 and she might just do it this year too with her new crew, but there were just too many super quick guys for me to back her just yet)

Ek kan nie fkn wag nie!  :biggrin:  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 02, 2014, 04:56:19 pm
K, so I'll show you mine and then you show me yours?

In trying to come up with my top10 I realised just how wide open this thing is. I had a really rough time finalising my list and in the end decided to just go with I came up with first and splash in a touch of patriotism... not out of sympathy, but because the man can do it. Go Riaan!!!

1. Coma (Just too much class)
2. Barreda
3. Helder
4. Sunderland
5. Viladoms
6. Pain
7. Goncalves
8. Casteu
9. Metge (I really enjoyed his pace last year under the wing of Despres. Now that he has more freedom than a support rider...?)
10. van Niekerk (vat hulle vas swaar, gooi mielies!!!)

11. Laia Sanz (she matched Riaan for pace last year and I would really love to see her in the top10 and she might just do it this year too with her new crew, but there were just too many super quick guys for me to back her just yet)

Ek kan nie fkn wag nie!  :biggrin:  :ricky:

Oooh, I'll rise to that bait.
Kobus Potgieter has both last years and this years KTM 450RR. He says he prefers last years model (but might still change his mind). I gather that this years model feels a bit less stable, but is more "flickable" on the tight stuff. I don't quite get what he means, maybe somebody that rides that well can explain.
Now I think KTM have to get it a bit wrong eventually, and I think that this Dakar is the time. So my bet is on KTM being dethroned.

My top 3:
1. Pain
2. Coma
3. Sutherland
After that I'm not sure, but definately for Riaan in top 10, and Lovely Laia not far behind him. And I wouldn't mind if Goncalves does well.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on December 02, 2014, 08:29:47 pm
I hope old Francisco "Chaleco" López does well, he is such a cool dude and he goes like the clappers!!!

He makes me think of those old school Africa Dakar riders on the BIG BIKES!!

(http://www.todoautos.com.pe/portal/images/stories/dakar-2013/chaleco-lopez-dakar.jpg)

I really felt for the guy when he over cooked a corner last year and rode off a cliff!
(http://www.late.com.bo/wp-content/uploads/chaleco_abandono.jpg)

(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/2014-dakar-stage-6-less-extreme-chaleco-lopez-calls-it-quits-photo-galleryvideo-74561-7.jpg)



But the boy can ride!! - I hope he gets a poduim!
(http://www.rallyglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Francisco-Lopez-2w1.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Kamanya on December 02, 2014, 08:48:07 pm
Kobus Potgieter has both last years and this years KTM 450RR. He says he prefers last years model (but might still change his mind). I gather that this years model feels a bit less stable, but is more "flickable" on the tight stuff. I don't quite get what he means, maybe somebody that rides that well can explain.


I asked Riaan his opinion on this. His answer;

The newer version is shorter and has a tighter geometry. This makes is nervy at speed but responsive in tighter stuff. Not everyone likes it. Some have experimented with a longer swing-arm and apparently this has calmed things down.

It would be interesting to see if one could measure from photographs and compare swing-arms

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ktmpilot on December 02, 2014, 10:01:51 pm
I hope old Francisco "Chaleco" López does well, he is such a cool dude and he goes like the clappers!!!

He makes me think of those old school Africa Dakar riders on the BIG BIKES!!

(http://www.todoautos.com.pe/portal/images/stories/dakar-2013/chaleco-lopez-dakar.jpg)

I really felt for the guy when he over cooked a corner last year and rode off a cliff!
(http://www.late.com.bo/wp-content/uploads/chaleco_abandono.jpg)

(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/2014-dakar-stage-6-less-extreme-chaleco-lopez-calls-it-quits-photo-galleryvideo-74561-7.jpg)



But the boy can ride!! - I hope he gets a poduim!
(http://www.rallyglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Francisco-Lopez-2w1.jpg)

Unfortunately Chaleco is out of Dakar 2015 for knee surgery. In fact I think he may have retired from rallye in total.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ktmpilot on December 02, 2014, 10:06:28 pm
K, so I'll show you mine and then you show me yours?

In trying to come up with my top10 I realised just how wide open this thing is. I had a really rough time finalising my list and in the end decided to just go with I came up with first and splash in a touch of patriotism... not out of sympathy, but because the man can do it. Go Riaan!!!

1. Coma (Just too much class)
2. Barreda
3. Helder
4. Sunderland
5. Viladoms
6. Pain
7. Goncalves
8. Casteu
9. Metge (I really enjoyed his pace last year under the wing of Despres. Now that he has more freedom than a support rider...?)
10. van Niekerk (vat hulle vas swaar, gooi mielies!!!)

11. Laia Sanz (she matched Riaan for pace last year and I would really love to see her in the top10 and she might just do it this year too with her new crew, but there were just too many super quick guys for me to back her just yet)

Ek kan nie fkn wag nie!  :biggrin:  :ricky:

Oooh, I'll rise to that bait.
Kobus Potgieter has both last years and this years KTM 450RR. He says he prefers last years model (but might still change his mind). I gather that this years model feels a bit less stable, but is more "flickable" on the tight stuff. I don't quite get what he means, maybe somebody that rides that well can explain.
Now I think KTM have to get it a bit wrong eventually, and I think that this Dakar is the time. So my bet is on KTM being dethroned.

My top 3:
1. Pain
2. Coma
3. Sutherland
After that I'm not sure, but definately for Riaan in top 10, and Lovely Laia not far behind him. And I wouldn't mind if Goncalves does well.

The bike that Riaan will be on in 2015 already won the Dakar in 2014, so I don't think KTM got it wrong... Coma and I think only 1 or 2 other guys in the factory team already rode the 2014 race on the new bike while the other factory riders and factory-supported riders like Riaan were still all on the old bike. In 2015 however the whole team is on the new bike.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 02, 2014, 10:38:28 pm
Interesting stats on distances and finish percentage.
I didn't realise that Coma and a few others rode the "new" KTM in Dakar 2014. Interesting.....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on December 03, 2014, 08:14:17 am
It seems Africa in general was longer and tougher or that the 450's made the race "easier" to finish, especially for the majority of the amateur riders.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Koet on December 03, 2014, 08:41:26 am
Question, how do you keep an eye on the Dakar if you're on holiday with no DSTV (OK, I know DSTV doesn't really show much anyways) and sparse internet connectivity?   :'(
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 03, 2014, 08:53:57 am
Question, how do you keep an eye on the Dakar if you're on holiday with no DSTV (OK, I know DSTV doesn't really show much anyways) and sparse internet connectivity?   :'(

Maybe Twitter?
@RallyRaidreview has good info, as do:
@joanbangbang88
@sundersam
@simonpavey
@jenntdakar
@LaiaSanz_
@TheRealGiniel
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Koet on December 03, 2014, 08:54:59 am
Question, how do you keep an eye on the Dakar if you're on holiday with no DSTV (OK, I know DSTV doesn't really show much anyways) and sparse internet connectivity?   :'(

Maybe Twitter?
@RallyRaidreview has good info, as do:
@joanbangbang88
@sundersam
@simonpavey
@jenntdakar
@LaiaSanz_
@TheRealGiniel


Thanx!  Adding all of them now.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bud500 on December 03, 2014, 09:03:02 am
You could also subscribe to Riaan and Darryl's newsletter. They try and get something out daily.

www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za/ (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za/)
Title: Re: 2015 Dakar Rally funding for privateer Riaan van Niekerk on the KTM Factory Team
Post by: Dutchie on December 03, 2014, 10:30:27 am
Via FB. Just do it


Short Summary
I am Riaan van Niekerk and I have been racing motorcyles for most of my life. In 2013 I was fortunate enough to have a crack at the Dakar Rally. My title sponsor Broadlink funded myself and my team mate Darryl Curtis and we bought a ride with the KTM Factory team.

We were able to do this through the trust relationship that we have built with them over the last 15 years, racing the world extreme events like the Red Bull Erzberg Rodeo and the Red Bull Romaniacs to name  a few. Yes, the package is expensive, but it puts us on another paying field and we are able to compete with the best Factory riders in the world. Darryl injured himself at last years Dakar and will be managing me and taking care of the media.

One of our sponsors have pulled out and this has compromised my effort for 2015, I finshed 13th overall in 2013, 12th overall in 2014, I won the Rookie award and Elf trophy both years. The ASO have recognised me as a professional athlete and have given me Elite status and a yellow number, my dream is to finish in the top ten at the Dakar and I am appealing to my fans to help me get there in any way possible.

What We Need & What You Get
Our Dakar budget is 200 000 dollars, this includes the Rally of Maroc, the Amageza rally and the Dakar. We are 50 000 dollars short, we saw the crowd funding site and thought this would be a great way to appeal to our fans.
We have designed and printed a high quality Broadlink KTM Rally team t shirt and cap that we can offer you as well as a number of shirts and memorabilia signed by the KTM Factory Dakar riders.
We have no choice but to reach our goal, we are driven by passion and driven by dreams.
 
The Impact
We  invite you our fans to engage with us and follow us throughout the Dakar on your daily sport channel as well as our blog and website www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za). We will be posting live daily updates from the bivouac with voice clips and images.
We have had three successful Dakar rallies and have a huge following, be part of it.

Risks & Challenges
Dakar is exciting, yet dangerous, but 26 years of off road racing has given me the experience to succeed, back me and ill keep you on your toes.

Other Ways You Can Help
Please use the Indiegogo share tools and get the word out there, do you know that there are 1 million people at the start of the Dakar, 4,5 million people along the route and 1 million people at the finish ?
Please share this with your friends and post comments on our blog.

http://igg.me/at/riaan-at-dakar/x (http://igg.me/at/riaan-at-dakar/x)

May I be as forward as to remind you guys of this opportunity to help out Riaan and Darryl. It's a week later and the sales numbers on the crowd sourcing site is looking bleak. After phoning some mates and family members I was able to get an order of 9 t-shirts together... it took me 15 minutes. Give it a try? Come on boys and girls, the t-shirts and caps are stunning and there are a few other nice donation options too.
Title: Re: 2015 Dakar Rally funding for privateer Riaan van Niekerk on the KTM Factory Team
Post by: Rokie on December 03, 2014, 12:10:56 pm
Dakar fever has been quite subdued on this thread . . .
Returning in 5 . . . 4 . . .

the fever has returned  :ricky:

May I be as forward as to remind you guys of this opportunity to help out Riaan and Darryl. It's a week later and the sales numbers on the crowd sourcing site is looking bleak. After phoning some mates and family members I was able to get an order of 9 t-shirts together... it took me 15 minutes. Give it a try? Come on boys and girls, the t-shirts and caps are stunning and there are a few other nice donation options too.

been there, done that, got the T-shirt  :biggrin:
(OK, I haven't quite GOT the T-shirt yet - still on its way - I just wanted to use that line . . .)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 03, 2014, 03:17:09 pm
From Wessel:

Barbecue in Bethlehem, ha ha, no just some things to go to Dakar 2015.... two days before we have to be in Durban..
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: MaxThePanda on December 03, 2014, 06:29:19 pm
Interesting stats on distances and finish percentage.
I didn't realise that Coma and a few others rode the "new" KTM in Dakar 2014. Interesting.....

Conclusion: Africa is not for sissies!

(Perhaps too many people finished Amageza this year? ;)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: sidetrack on December 04, 2014, 10:55:50 am
Interesting stats on distances and finish percentage.
I didn't realise that Coma and a few others rode the "new" KTM in Dakar 2014. Interesting.....

Conclusion: Africa is not for sissies!

(Perhaps too many people finished Amageza this year? ;)
Still the original and best sadly high jacked by politics
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Kamanya on December 04, 2014, 12:38:11 pm

(Perhaps too many people finished Amageza this year? ;)

Some stats.

If I look as a percentage of the fastest overall finisher on last years Amageza, the slowest official finisher is 53.58%

With 16 of 48 finishing or 33%

On this years' the same is 58.06% (very similar), but with 55 of 77 finishing or 71%

To me, this means that;

1. The spread of skill is relatively similar.
2. The preparation was higher
3. Conditions easier.

Points 2 & 3 altered the DNF's by a factor of 3. Which contributed more? My gut say 3. The optimal weather for Stage 1 & 2 made those stages far easier than they could have been.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 05, 2014, 01:07:23 am
Kamanya, honestly I think the level of riding I saw at Amageza this year was actually bloody good. We South Africans are pretty damn good at a lot of things we put our minds too, and there was a lot of very well prepped, motivated guys this year at Amageza. Conversely, imagine the 2012 entry list on the 2014 rally....we would have had 20% finish if that. Truth be told it was probably a mixture of all there, but with more weighting on the 1st 2. I think I can say that the length of this year made up for perhaps the more technical stuff seen last year? I was not there so I suppose what I think doesnt really count for much. ::)


SteveD: youre a brave man backing Sherco over KTM. ;D Still I hear you logic. But KTM is Austrian. Zey wil not let zat happen, or all of ze mechanics shall be shot!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 05, 2014, 01:11:32 am
From Wessel:

Barbecue in Bethlehem, ha ha, no just some things to go to Dakar 2015.... two days before we have to be in Durban..

(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=153875.0;attach=392755;image)

Hmm didn´t anyone tell the guys it is windy as all hell on the western side of the Andes? Wessel is gonna battle to sleep in that thing rocking like a ship.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 05, 2014, 08:30:36 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/8St50evQkgc

https://www.youtube.com/v/XXg4CkEY0NM

https://www.youtube.com/v/vPVn60-uUwI

https://www.youtube.com/v/GVBdNRzuCfc
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 05, 2014, 09:16:01 pm
Some cool helmet cam from last year

https://www.youtube.com/v/mYTc6_WaPtA

https://www.youtube.com/v/3nNx4-ogYRs

https://www.youtube.com/v/fUiDi1NdtBE

https://www.youtube.com/v/CdMTJ7ktEmM

https://www.youtube.com/v/AJCGF1pIvR8

https://www.youtube.com/v/ff_xGkdC6sE

https://www.youtube.com/v/6daN8o2ycaw

https://www.youtube.com/v/-ugJmrJhWYM

https://www.youtube.com/v/CLOGRMWUoDA

https://www.youtube.com/v/PNmTmDGlfn4

https://www.youtube.com/v/3u_IpN4VApk

https://www.youtube.com/v/p4JHcSCZ8T4

https://www.youtube.com/v/CZcjwNQ2CCA

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Jondu on December 06, 2014, 02:12:39 pm
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 06, 2014, 09:07:23 pm
Sam Sutherland FB:
Out doing some navigation training this afternoon  feeling good and everything going to plan!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BV on December 07, 2014, 08:31:26 am

(Perhaps too many people finished Amageza this year? ;)

Some stats.

If I look as a percentage of the fastest overall finisher on last years Amageza, the slowest official finisher is 53.58%

With 16 of 48 finishing or 33%

On this years' the same is 58.06% (very similar), but with 55 of 77 finishing or 71%




To me, this means that;

1. The spread of skill is relatively similar.
2. The preparation was higher
3. Conditions easier.

Points 2 & 3 altered the DNF's by a factor of 3. Which contributed more? My gut say 3. The optimal weather for Stage 1 & 2 made those stages far easier than they could have been.


I would LOVE the Amageza more technical.!!!!!!!!!
To much cyclist ride the Amegeza." If your ride long enough hours before the race you would be fit enough to finish."Uhhm that's like bicycle riding. No skill involved. No, the Amageza should be more towards the Dakar and Roof concept. OK not the Roof. Tried that and was to light.
Come on Alex give us dunes and rocks!
 N.S please Alex not mud. I hate the stuff.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on December 07, 2014, 06:34:49 pm
There was a bit of a fund raiser at the Lusaka Motor Club in support of David Reeve's 2015 Dakar...

Some pics

He did a short ride on his rally bike
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10847801_10153048018293352_1121895408373681299_n.jpg?oh=9343d6a66dbeb4990e426c670730f701&oe=551E2E82&__gda__=1425943527_0f0dcfd8ce53708c403855fc5caac6fb)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10846503_10153048020593352_7192189483392387222_n.jpg?oh=0bc51d665190d1938c010661f724b103&oe=55019A62&__gda__=1426977652_d99ea47009d5b52dfe882696cfc4e4ac)

But he was riding a standard 450 around the track, bikes were racing 2 at a time on a laid out course, very dusty!!
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10846303_10153048020718352_3163104207950601318_n.jpg?oh=0a80ee322306072c9d5a24d7245556d1&oe=550A94D7)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10420745_10153048018788352_8285887393633979494_n.jpg?oh=c8536f1f0b00aa8057d09ddccad65d86&oe=5510A065&__gda__=1425856538_5e349949b9852c94c2598896d9bbe566)

Some of the other riders...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10624818_10153048019148352_5231178957902812417_n.jpg?oh=a05972b9bfa38f176c388dad6c632aa2&oe=550752D7&__gda__=1426404994_e814a5d2eea0f7593e69d9ddba3b7885)

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10857841_10153048019583352_1156062454057336633_n.jpg?oh=f9026c1591c95334aa003dc40a1de589&oe=5515F378)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11353_10153048017943352_3978924905047138145_n.jpg?oh=fb89a0a52264a7b871da83a6c9fd6681&oe=550F8681&__gda__=1426894268_b4b1678395d67305374c7084f3f49647)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10857749_10153048018218352_2356979882339217118_n.jpg?oh=8bd71d5f76fca60b66c7eec088c9f269&oe=54FD70AA&__gda__=1426155550_8736e08749d973620b479594f9909417)

one or two oopsies...
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10678820_10153048020408352_6815990394870441704_n.jpg?oh=5c49558a7a08cd7d2b840449f4418b37&oe=5501BBEA)

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 14, 2014, 04:50:42 pm
From David's FB:

During the Dakar we obviously have to eat - here is a glimpse of the poor catering company who has to deal with us each day. Never had a bad meal, but the dreaded ham and cheese with each meal gets a bit monotonous, and bacon seems to be non existant at breakfast.... but then we can't complain at least we are being fed.
For the seventh consecutive year, Sodexo will demonstrate its Quality of Life Services leadership, as the official food supplier for the Dakar 2015, serving over 2,500 people for 14 days; a great logistics, service quality, efficiency and environmental challenge.
This is one of the most complex logistic displays since Dakar 2015 will include more than 9 thousand kilometers of extreme tracks in Argentina, Chile and Bolivia. For this purpose, Sodexo will deploy a team of 80 collaborators distributed in 6 mobile kitchen trucks that will circuit 24/7 to reach each Bivouac, which are specially prepared by Sodexo to deliver more than 28 thousand breakfasts; 21 thousand snacks; 18,000 lunches and 32 thousand dinners.
Nevertheless, Sodexo’s challenge extends beyond the food supply; it also implies being concerned with the environment; Sodexo will implement a complete plan for recycling solid waste and for the selective separation of rubbish. Moreover, it will incorporate new technologies, delivering its food supply services in 90% disposable tableware and adding new products that are 100% biodegradable.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: madmax on December 15, 2014, 11:47:28 am
From David's FB:

During the Dakar we obviously have to eat - here is a glimpse of the poor catering company who has to deal with us each day. Never had a bad meal, but the dreaded ham and cheese with each meal gets a bit monotonous, and bacon seems to be non existant at breakfast.... but then we can't complain at least we are being fed.
For the seventh consecutive year, Sodexo will demonstrate its Quality of Life Services leadership, as the official food supplier for the Dakar 2015, serving over 2,500 people for 14 days; a great logistics, service quality, efficiency and environmental challenge.
This is one of the most complex logistic displays since Dakar 2015 will include more than 9 thousand kilometers of extreme tracks in Argentina, Chile and Bolivia. For this purpose, Sodexo will deploy a team of 80 collaborators distributed in 6 mobile kitchen trucks that will circuit 24/7 to reach each Bivouac, which are specially prepared by Sodexo to deliver more than 28 thousand breakfasts; 21 thousand snacks; 18,000 lunches and 32 thousand dinners.
Nevertheless, Sodexo’s challenge extends beyond the food supply; it also implies being concerned with the environment; Sodexo will implement a complete plan for recycling solid waste and for the selective separation of rubbish. Moreover, it will incorporate new technologies, delivering its food supply services in 90% disposable tableware and adding new products that are 100% biodegradable.

one never thinks of the sort of behinf the scenes things like this..but must be a headache and logistical nightmare and i think hats off to this bunch
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 15, 2014, 07:29:21 pm
Mr Pavey and son, via FB:

Team SP FiFTY ONE’s KTM 450 RR.

For 2015 Tem SP FiFTYONE and Si Pavey have opted to run the purpose built KTM 450 RR, a bike developed only with the Dakar in mind. Since it’s inception in 2011 the 450 RR has won every single Dakar and almost every major rally race on the planet in the hands of it’s factory riders.

With a purpose built 450cc engine, capable of over 65hp at the rear wheel, an integrated sub-frame tank and a unique trellis frame design the KTM does as KTM do; it comes out of the crate Ready to Race. As a race weapon it needs very little tweaking to produce as safe, fast, competitive machine capable of completing the Dakar with minimal troubles.

The Team SP FiFTY ONE racing KTM’s are very close to the stock machines, with small tweaks made to the engine and suspension to improve performance. The team Suspension tuner, Chris Hockey of Dr Shox assisted with the setup of the SXS Factory suspension. The engine has received some slight internal modifications to improve the bottom end power and increase the readability of the engine.

The bike utilises an Ohlins steering damper and is fitted with Michelin Desert Race tyres and Desert Mousses. The front fairing is replaced with a stronger after-market part from Perfect Fairings to improve longevity and crash resistance and the team use bar weighted Barkbusters handgaurds to protect the levers and reduce vibration at high speed.

The design and graphics were provided UK action sports brand Amped MX Graphics.

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 15, 2014, 09:38:19 pm
I went cycling with Albert Hintenaus on Saturday, the man is super fit. On Sunday he strapped 22kg of weights to his 350 and went to ride Atlantis. He is ready!!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 16, 2014, 09:57:11 pm
Via FB:

Mechanic Roland Bruckner talks about Dakar 2015 preparations

The notorious Dakar Rally is renowned for being one of the toughest races in the world, but with most of the talk being about the trials and tribulations of the riders, it’s easy to forget the difficult task that their mechanics face. With equally as little sleep, and a long distance to travel in the support vehicles over 15 days, it’s certainly a team affair to succeed in the rally. The KTM BLOG talked to the ultra-experienced Roland Bruckner, Jordi Viladoms’ mechanic, whom has been involved in rally racing since 1999, and knows just what it takes to be a Dakar Rally mechanic.

“You need to be patient to do this. You have to like it. There’s not much opportunity to sleep, waking up at 3am or 4am every day, and not going to bed before midnight. If you like the work it isn’t such a problem and it’s important to have a good team,” Roland Bruckner said in his opening statement at the recent rally test held in Spain. It’s clear to see he loves his work and being part of the KTM team.

After the Spanish test, which is annually held in November, the bikes are usually cleaned and have one final check before leaving for the race. The team has the task of going over every final detail and loading the trucks to go to Le Havre, where they are loaded onto a boat and shipped to South America. It’s a busy time, with one and a half weeks after the test to ensure everything is totally ready; there’s an awful lot to remember.

“Obviously it’s not an easy task to ensure we have absolutely everything that may be needed for the race, and perhaps when you first begin the task you need lists. But now we have a lot of experience and it’s almost automatic to prepare for the race. The list is in my head,” continued Roland Bruckner.

There’s a long build-up to the race, and the team does all of the World Cross-Country Rallies Championship with their riders during the year. In 2015 Roland Bruckner will be doing his 15th Dakar event, and while team bosses Alex Doringer and Stefan Huber look after the strategy for the Dakar, Roland Bruckner explains that even though he’s done it for years, the final few days before the race are incredibly tense on arrival in South America.

“I’m always a little bit nervous and the days before the race are a little bit tense. There are some media activities and the final preparations for the biggest race of our year. You can feel the riders are a little nervous, and the feeling in general is a bit nervous in the build-up before the race. It’s always hectic, but after a few days into the race it becomes calmer and settles into a good rhythm. The first days are not so easy.”

During the race in the morning the mechanics get up with the riders, which can be very early, and check the bike one final time before the riders leave. Then they pack everything down, get onto the liaison, sometimes driving the whole day, before reaching the next bivouac where they set-up the tents again. Once the riders return they work on the bike until late in the night for the following day.

It’s a team effort as the mechanics help each other if one of the riders has crashed or there’s more work to be done on a different rider’s bike. There’s also specialist mechanics in the team for electronics and welding, which offer extra support. A mechanic’s job isn’t just about fixing the bike, but also supporting the rider from a mental point of view, so it’s a really intense few weeks.

“If the rider doesn’t crash there are not so many things to check in the evenings. We do an oil change, check the bolts and that everything is tight, check the suspension and so on. We change the wheels, check the brakes and that’s it. A rider has a new set of tyres every day, and we pre-prepare them on the wheels with the mooses in the company before we come to the Dakar to make it easier.”

“If you know the rider well you can see when he comes in and you look into his face how the day was. If he made a mistake you help him to calm down and focus on the following day. All riders have different characters, but Jordi Viladoms is easy to work with and we have a good relationship.”


Roland started with KTM in 2003, and has since seen the race and the team evolve into the fully focused outfit that it is today. He learned his trade on the job, and his first racing job was in rally. KTM has invested in a complete programme for rally racing while developing a top-class bike, and despite 13 consecutive wins at the race, it’s taken many years to reach this point. The race itself has changed a lot too, after it moved from Africa to South America on safety grounds in 2009.

“We now have a whole year with a complete team. In the beginning we just had two or three people, and the mechanics would come in the riders just for the races. We have all the trucks and it’s changed a lot. The preparation is very professional, and we’re really ready now before the Dakar. Of course technology is always changing, and the bike capacity has changed, so there’s always new challenges. If you look at the history it took KTM a long time to get to the front of the race, but with the experience and determination the success since has been fantastic.”

“In Africa it was also a big challenge and adventure to be part of the assistance, and to finish as an assistance was not so easy. There were a lot of bivouacs without assistance where mechanics were stuck in the dunes, or cars broken down in the middle of no-where, as there was a lot of offroad driving to do. This is a lot easier in South America with most of the liaisons being much more straight forward.”

Talking about the highs and lows of being a Dakar mechanic Roland Bruckner explains what keeps them motivated, and how sometimes they help each other to keep the morale high. Of course it’s easier when the rider is doing well, but as everyone knows, anything can happen in this race.

“The hardest thing about being a Dakar mechanic is to concentrate deeply for two or three weeks with no mistakes after nearly no sleep.  Working outside, sleeping outside; it’s not easy. It’s also hugely disappointing if your rider goes out early in the race after so much effort, expectation and preparation. But, completing the race in a good position is a good feeling, and to win the Dakar is the best feeling. It’s such a tough race, and it’s what keeps us going every year.”

In South America it’s hot and the mechanics have to sleep in a tent, in what is a pretty primitive set-up to say the least  :patch: , but Roland Bruckner has learned to deal with the highs and lows of the race, and enjoys the family within the Red Bull KTM Rally Factory Racing Team. In some years a mechanic would travel over 11,000 kilometres, and although it’s generally less now, it’s still incredibly grueling. Roland Bruckner said it takes at least two weeks to recover from the race and the jet lag, and also to feel comfortable waking up without the noise of the generator. So really, it’s no mean feat for the riders or the mechanics supporting them!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Broadlink KTM Rally on December 18, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
Hey Everyone !

When I got back from the 2014 Dakar I was shocked at the length of this thread, it was so awesome to see all the support for all the SA competitors at the Dakar, we are truly proudly South African. Wild dog rocks!

I normally stay away from forums, but this one is fun, so I will do my best to send you guys as much info as possible during the race. Through Sat4rent and Inmarsat, i will have a permanent satellite connection, even while mobile, so I should be able to get a fair amount of info out. The best way to get info will be to follow me on twitter at darrylcurtisSA. This automatically posts to Facebook etc. My main focus will be to look after Riaan van Niekerk, but I will also be doing the media for the KTM Factory team.

At the end of everyday, I will write a press release on what happened on the day, attach pics and voice clips and send it to a media hub in SA, there it gets bundled and sent to motoring journalists and our fan base. Early the following morning it will be loaded to our website www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za) or (www.darrylcurtis.co.za (http://www.darrylcurtis.co.za) or www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za (http://www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za)) Feel free to write comments on our site, we see them all.

Anyone that still wants to help us with funding can visit, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015. (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015.) Any help would be appreciated, we buy our package with the KTM Factory team, Broadlink is our title sponsor, but we are still struggling with funding.

Thanks for following, let's hope we can crack a top ten this year ! We leave in just 10 days for BA.

Cheers
Darryl Curtis
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 18, 2014, 05:34:47 pm

Awesome, Darryl!   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Tony the Bony on December 18, 2014, 05:39:11 pm

Awesome, Darryl!   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Thanks Darryl. Can't wait!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Dutchie on December 19, 2014, 08:41:46 am
Sweet Darryl, thanks so much. Min dae!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: windswept on December 19, 2014, 11:07:33 am
The shirts and cap arrived with the courier, very nice looking kit. Thanks Darryl!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 19, 2014, 03:43:57 pm
I spent an interesting half hour or so chatting to Darryl this morning, while picking up some brilliant shirts and cap.
All seems to be ready for Riaan at Dakar, including plans to feed this forum with plenty of info   :thumleft:
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Post by: Jondu on December 20, 2014, 01:40:55 pm
Wonderfull..................
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 20, 2014, 01:56:59 pm
Woohoo Darryl is finally on Wilddogs! :hello2:

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Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 20, 2014, 03:14:13 pm
Here is a cool video of a rally fotographer, with some nice and different views of the desert and the racers.

https://vimeo.com/85299773
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 22, 2014, 10:06:44 am
From dakar.com:


I MUST BE CRAZY TO GO BACK


In 2013, David Reeve became the first Zambian to start the Dakar. After two unsuccessful attempts, he still hopes to become the first Zambian to finish it. His back-to-back experiences were tough on his mind and especially his body: a broken leg in 2013 with four days to go, and a dislocated knee last year after another rough crash. The farmer from Mazabuka who conquered 17 Zambian off-road titles returns and still hopes to inspire riders from his country. A very encouraging 16th position at the Morocco rally should boost his confidence. Now all he wants is to focus on finishing, taking it easy this time!

“The Dakar is a bit of a ‘Grande Finale' for me. I've witnessed all types of races including World championships, but the Dakar is unbelievable. Last year, I suffered another cruel moment. On day 3, I overtook two riders who were together and hit a rock. I somersaulted over the bike and dislocated my knee, injuring ligaments. I must be crazy to go back! I went to the Morocco Rally with a totally different attitude. I need to forget about the racing and focus on the navigation. And of course, not overtake! I'm going to take it slowly and it'll come to me. As a Zambian rider I hope to open the eyes of the people here and get more black Zambians into motorsports. Being the first Zambian to compete and finish would really mean something”.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 22, 2014, 12:17:43 pm
Sounds like his missus had "the talk" with him and is going to take him down if he crashes again ;D
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Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 22, 2014, 01:22:15 pm
Our Toyota boys are ready. Hoping they will get a win this year:

https://www.youtube.com/v/XzZgj0OJn88
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on December 22, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
In the interests of getting some work done I've been deliberately ignoring this thread.

Been very busy lately but it's starting to get close to that time again. ....

Amazing that guys like Daryl notice this thread!

Always incredible to me the level of sacrifice people make from all corners of the globe to be a part of this awesome adventure/challenge.

In times when you can pay a Sherpa to carry you up mt Everest the Dakar stands out as one of the last REAL adventures left on the planet. You can't pay your way to the end - yet.

I think this is why I get so sucked into it each year!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Breekbeen on December 23, 2014, 07:46:17 am
Counting the days now. :ricky:
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Post by: Breekbeen on December 23, 2014, 08:36:32 am
   
The All-New 2015 WR450F Rally Gears Up for The Dakar
In less than three weeks time Yamaha Factory Racing's Olivier Pain, Michael Metge and Alessandro Botturi will start the toughest rally in the world. Dakar 2015 will kick off in Buenos Aires on the fourth of January. The race consists of two weeks and 8.000 kilometres of extreme endurance, making good preparation and equipment vitally important.

Boosted by Olivier Pain’s third place on the 2014 Dakar and input from five time Dakar winner Cyril Despres, Yamaha Factory Racing Team Yamlube are entering a brand new machine for the 2015 edition – the Yamaha WR450F Rally. With its rear-inclined engine, the new bike has much in common with its YZ450F sibling. However, unlike the moto-x bike, Yamaha’s Dakar entry features electric start, a major rider aid for Dakar competitors in the dunes.


“One of the most striking features of the new bike is the WR’s unique single-cell fuel tank incorporating the rear sub frame”, Yamaha Factory Racing Team Yamlube Team Manager Jose Leloir commented. “The major consideration when building a Dakar bike is where to place the necessary 35 litres of fuel. For 2014 we had five separate fuel tanks all requiring pumps and all linked by fuel pipes. By using a single carbon fibre fuel cell we have simplified the system massively and in the processes made huge gains in both weight saving and reliability. In total we’ve reduced the bike’s weight by a considerable ten kilos and in the process made servicing the bike each evening a whole lot easier.” In addition to having less weight to haul around, the team’s riders have also gained increased peace of mind. No longer to they have to juggle with five different fuel taps and, as an added bonus, they can now actually have a fuel gauge that lets them know exactly how much petrol they have left to get to the end each day’s stage.
WR450F Rally

“Obviously the single-cell solution wasn’t just a question of making it fit and plumbing it in, it also had major implications in terms of the bike’s setup”, Jose Leoir added, “Once we decided on how we wanted to carry the fuel the bike went through several stages of development to ensure that the WR handled how the riders wanted it to with the new weight distribution.” In the end the team settled on a modified standard Kayaba front fork, specific front end geometry, a modified rear suspension linkage, a full factory Kayaba rear shock absorber and a longer swinging arm. Jose Leloir, “We tested a large number of different configurations before the riders were entirely happy with how the bike handled and now they delighted to have a bike that is both stable over the fast going and manoeuvrable over the increasingly technical terrain the Dakar organisers are choosing to run the ‘bike only’ specials over.


WR450F Rally   
The icing on the cake and what all motorcycle racers want, whatever the discipline, is more speed – a 10% gain over last year’s machine. Once again the single-cell fuel tank plays a role. Jose Leloir concluded, “Some of the bike’s increased performance comes from a new fuel injection system incorporating traction control that will reduce rider fatigue, improve fuel consumption and tyre wear. A substantial part of our top speed gain comes from improved aerodynamics. Put simply, with the single fuel cell, the bike is much slimmer and so cuts through the air with considerably less drag. A big part of the Dakar’s appeal is that anything can happen out there in the desert, but we are at least confident that for 2015 we have given our riders a machine with which they can fully express their talents.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 23, 2014, 11:17:55 am
   
The All-New 2015 WR450F Rally Gears Up for The Dakar


Great article, can you quote the source please?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Breekbeen on December 23, 2014, 12:18:59 pm
A mail from Yamaha motor.
Will see if there is a link.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Breekbeen on December 23, 2014, 12:22:59 pm
   
The All-New 2015 WR450F Rally Gears Up for The Dakar


Great article, can you quote the source please?

http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/ (http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 23, 2014, 08:53:50 pm
   
The All-New 2015 WR450F Rally Gears Up for The Dakar


Great article, can you quote the source please?

http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/ (http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/)

Some peechas added.
(I'm still rooting for Olivier Pain to win)
Any theories on what is the little box on top of the tank, the one on the last picture?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 23, 2014, 08:56:20 pm
Via FB:
A little teaser for David (Reeve). His first Sneak peak at his Dakar graphics.
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Post by: BiG DoM on December 23, 2014, 09:14:44 pm
That Yammie really looking 'rallye light' … interesting that the fairings are being pared down and forks and yokes exposed. A real WR on steroids  look 8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 23, 2014, 09:46:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/3ZZ2mcltT0g
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Breekbeen on December 24, 2014, 05:25:05 am
   
The All-New 2015 WR450F Rally Gears Up for The Dakar


Great article, can you quote the source please?

http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/ (http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/dakar/)

Some peechas added.
(I'm still rooting for Olivier Pain to win)
Any theories on what is the little box on top of the tank, the one on the last picture?

Steve the new WR is so fast they had to fit a restrictor :pot:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Skaiidawg on December 24, 2014, 08:19:25 am
Any theories on what is the little box on top of the tank, the one on the last picture?

Maybe a small computer for the fuel consumption and fuel gauge.
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Post by: BiG DoM on December 24, 2014, 09:24:27 am
… and probably mapping options for liaison riding, altitude etc. Quick readouts and plugin for technicians? Note the standard Scotts damper and runs standard KYB front forks with factory tweaking. In the right hands this will be an awesome weapon and you can be sure Honda is not far behind ...
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Post by: Buff on December 24, 2014, 09:31:31 am
… and probably mapping options for liaison riding, altitude etc. Quick readouts and plugin for technicians?

I think you nailed it BD, they probably just rerouted it to make it easily accessible and maybe added one or two manual buttons to allow the riders to change some pre-set options?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 24, 2014, 09:34:08 am
probably also can help the rider solve faults - like the BMW 911
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Buff on December 24, 2014, 09:35:50 am
probably also can help the rider solve faults - like the BMW 911

WTF? ... can't be, Yamaha's don't have faults  ;)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on December 24, 2014, 12:00:55 pm
SteveD, what you call the fuel tank is probably not one anymore  :biggrin:

Airbox would be my guess
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 24, 2014, 02:04:32 pm
SteveD, what you call the fuel tank is probably not one anymore  :biggrin:

Airbox would be my guess

Interesting....

From Simon Pavey via FB:
Here are some great photo's of our stunning race bikes and scrutineering in Le Havre
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 24, 2014, 02:06:57 pm
Interesting choice of nav gear. Two years ago he used a Trailtech unit for a backup tripmeter. This year he is back to dual ICOs.
Also he has both controls on the left, one from RNS and one from Touratch.
I wonder why he didn't go with the new RNS dual control?
This one:
http://www.rebelxsports.com/product/rns-dual-multiswitch-command-trip-roadbook/ (http://www.rebelxsports.com/product/rns-dual-multiswitch-command-trip-roadbook/)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 24, 2014, 02:16:57 pm
More from the Pavey's, via their email newsletter:

Dakar 2015 - Team SP FiFTYONE Ready to go

With Dakar just a few short weeks away, Team SP FiFTYONE are ready to go. Their final sponsor line-up has also been announced as team riders, Simon and Llewellyn look to become the first father and son duo to complete the infamous event.

After several months of training and riding, both riders feel they are ready to face what looks set to be a particularly tough edition of the event. The team are also pleased and excited to present the team bike and sponsors.

TV Coverage
The team are also excited to announce Llewelyn's inclusion in a segment of the TV coverage to be shown on the nightly Eurosport coverage. He is one of a select few to be chosen for a new section of the schedule called 'My Dakar', which will follow the individual efforts of the selected competitors.

The show will be aired on a daily basis from the January 3rd 2015 on EuroSport in the UK and Europe, from January 5th SBS One in Australia.

Sponsors.
Team SP FiFTYONE are excited to present the following team partners and product suppliers; Rentamotorcycle.co.uk, Castrol oils, Michelin Tyres, Acerbic, Craghoppers, Cotswold Outdoor, Off Road Skills, KTM UK, Tredz.co.uk, Captain Fawcett's Moustache Wax, Perfect Fairings, BMW Helmets, Dr Shox Suspension and Amped MX Graphics.

Simon:
"Dakar is really close now and it's becoming seriously exciting. I feel really good, both physically and on the bike. The last two months have been really good, Llel and I have put a lot of effort into training and it's been really good. The kit our sponsors have given us really makes like easier, being able to train in all the weather has made it really enjoyable.""

Llewelyn:
"The race is really close now and it's a little intimidating. We've been putting as much time into training as possible and I feel pretty good. You could always be fitter and stronger but with the limited time I feel it's come together well. I'm also riding the bike well now and that has relaxed me. I feel as prepared as I think I can be considering I don't really have much idea what the race is going to feel like. I'm really excited about the prospect of spending two solid weeks on my bike right now.

Our sponsors have been incredible to us. It's been quite hectic really, organisation has been a little out the window with us trying to spend as much time as possible training but they've all been amazing and worked really hard, especially our kit suppliers, Cotswold, Craghoppers, Acerbis, Dr Shox and Amped. Thanks for everything!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on December 24, 2014, 05:20:53 pm
Interesting choice of nav gear. Two years ago he used a Trailtech unit for a backup tripmeter. This year he is back to dual ICOs.
Also he has both controls on the left, one from RNS and one from Touratch.
I wonder why he didn't go with the new RNS dual control?
This one:
http://www.rebelxsports.com/product/rns-dual-multiswitch-command-trip-roadbook/ (http://www.rebelxsports.com/product/rns-dual-multiswitch-command-trip-roadbook/)

Gorgeously sexy switches those!

Ps having put a Trailtech unit on my bike for the ability to change the distance I would say it's maybe a bit flimsy to trust for something like the Dakar. It will probably do the job. But it's not industrial grade robust the way rally kit should be?

Having said that I'm quite surprised about the performance of iPhones used for the same job in the latest Amageza.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Andy660 on December 25, 2014, 08:50:39 am
Hey Everyone !

When I got back from the 2014 Dakar I was shocked at the length of this thread, it was so awesome to see all the support for all the SA competitors at the Dakar, we are truly proudly South African. Wild dog rocks!

I normally stay away from forums, but this one is fun, so I will do my best to send you guys as much info as possible during the race. Through Sat4rent and Inmarsat, i will have a permanent satellite connection, even while mobile, so I should be able to get a fair amount of info out. The best way to get info will be to follow me on twitter at darrylcurtisSA. This automatically posts to Facebook etc. My main focus will be to look after Riaan van Niekerk, but I will also be doing the media for the KTM Factory team.

At the end of everyday, I will write a press release on what happened on the day, attach pics and voice clips and send it to a media hub in SA, there it gets bundled and sent to motoring journalists and our fan base. Early the following morning it will be loaded to our website www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za) or (www.darrylcurtis.co.za (http://www.darrylcurtis.co.za) or www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za (http://www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za)) Feel free to write comments on our site, we see them all.

Anyone that still wants to help us with funding can visit, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015. (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015.) Any help would be appreciated, we buy our package with the KTM Factory team, Broadlink is our title sponsor, but we are still struggling with funding.

Thanks for following, let's hope we can crack a top ten this year ! We leave in just 10 days for BA.

Cheers
Darryl Curtis

Welcome Darryl ,
Thanks for all the links ,  much appreciated
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Post by: White Rhino on December 25, 2014, 11:24:57 am
Hey Everyone !

When I got back from the 2014 Dakar I was shocked at the length of this thread, it was so awesome to see all the support for all the SA competitors at the Dakar, we are truly proudly South African. Wild dog rocks!

I normally stay away from forums, but this one is fun, so I will do my best to send you guys as much info as possible during the race. Through Sat4rent and Inmarsat, i will have a permanent satellite connection, even while mobile, so I should be able to get a fair amount of info out. The best way to get info will be to follow me on twitter at darrylcurtisSA. This automatically posts to Facebook etc. My main focus will be to look after Riaan van Niekerk, but I will also be doing the media for the KTM Factory team.

At the end of everyday, I will write a press release on what happened on the day, attach pics and voice clips and send it to a media hub in SA, there it gets bundled and sent to motoring journalists and our fan base. Early the following morning it will be loaded to our website www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za) or (www.darrylcurtis.co.za (http://www.darrylcurtis.co.za) or www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za (http://www.riaanvanniekerk.co.za)) Feel free to write comments on our site, we see them all.

Anyone that still wants to help us with funding can visit, https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015. (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dakar-rally-support-riaan-van-niekerk-for-2015.) Any help would be appreciated, we buy our package with the KTM Factory team, Broadlink is our title sponsor, but we are still struggling with funding.

Thanks for following, let's hope we can crack a top ten this year ! We leave in just 10 days for BA.

Cheers
Darryl Curtis

Welcome Darryl ,
Thanks for all y
the links ,  much appreciated
:thumleft:  :thumleft:  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 25, 2014, 11:25:39 am
Darryl you are a MENEER!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Camelman on December 26, 2014, 04:48:14 am
Sitting for the past 7 hours in Doha, I would have liked to say I'm halfway there, but I still have fly across the world. Should be in BA by this evening sometime.

Thanks to the donations from the 2014 Amageza competitors and the KTMSE club this is a dream I did not see coming true so soon. I will be sending my updates story and report to Wayne who has a masterplan for it all.

At this stage I wish I had my tent with me. I would have made camp in the middle of this airport.Screw the 5000 people milling like cattle 24 hours a day!
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Post by: JustBendIt on December 26, 2014, 05:07:57 am
Sitting for the past 7 hours in Doha, I would have liked to say I'm halfway there, but I still have fly across the world. Should be in BA by this evening sometime.

Thanks to the donations from the 2014 Amageza competitors and the KTMSE club this is a dream I did not see coming true so soon. I will be sending my updates story and report to Wayne who has a masterplan for it all.

At this stage I wish I had my tent with me. I would have made camp in the middle of this airport.Screw the 5000 people milling like cattle 24 hours a day!

VASBYT !!! Hou die piele styf !!!

All the best Alex !!!

Steal as much as you can - with your eyes and ears

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Post by: westfrogger on December 26, 2014, 10:00:14 am
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Post by: alanB on December 26, 2014, 11:10:42 am
Sitting for the past 7 hours in Doha, I would have liked to say I'm halfway there, but I still have fly across the world. Should be in BA by this evening sometime.

Thanks to the donations from the 2014 Amageza competitors and the KTMSE club this is a dream I did not see coming true so soon. I will be sending my updates story and report to Wayne who has a masterplan for it all.

At this stage I wish I had my tent with me. I would have made camp in the middle of this airport.Screw the 5000 people milling like cattle 24 hours a day!

Well done Alex :thumleft:

Hope things progress the way they should from here!

Looking forward to hearing your news and insight on this great event.
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Post by: T9ER on December 26, 2014, 07:05:03 pm
Keep it coming Alex.  :thumleft:
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Post by: SteveD on December 26, 2014, 11:07:31 pm
From dakar.com. Not a bike story, but still cool

Attempts to finish the Dakar in a Beetle date back to the 1980s but have never been successful. Stéphane Henrard is back at the Dakar after a hiatus spent developing a Beetle capable of handling the dunes: the DunBee.

Everyone in Mexico has heard of the Beetle's exploits. However, Stéphane Henrard has spent several years putting together a Beetle like no other, and is now ready to embark on a quest in Buenos Aires he intends to finish two weeks later, via Córdoba, Copiapó, Iquique and Uyuni! All that hard work in the Belgian tuner's workshop has paid off in the shape of a Beetle codenamed DunBee, a portmanteau of "Dunes" and "Beetle". Comeback kid Henrard is adamant that the technical challenge involved left him with no choice but to bide his time before bringing his latest brainchild onto the Dakar stage: "The DunBee made its debut in the Africa Race because it wasn't made for the South American Dakar of the first few years. Now I'm sure the car's mature enough and I also think the courses have changed. Our buggy's got some experience under its belt and has what it takes to be fast and reliable. Now it's time for it to prove its worth in the strongest field in the world of rally raid." Stéphane Henrard has finished three times in the top 10 so far, which means the Beetle has a real shot at being in the mix. However, this time around it is all about showing the potential of an accessible buggy and proving that it can carve a place for itself at the Dakar in the long run. "The first step is finishing the race. I know it's a cute, fast, little car, but there are about fifty cars out there capable of doing just as well. On the other hand, I've got the feeling anyone would be proud of driving this car. It just makes you want to jump behind the wheel."
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: White Rhino on December 27, 2014, 06:40:20 am
He he Steve, quite a funny story ... Not to be confused with a dung beetle ... Toss in a few pics please
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 08:03:01 am
He he Steve, quite a funny story ... Not to be confused with a dung beetle ... Toss in a few pics please

Here you go....
I enjoy the slightly wacky stories. It's a race, sure, but not everybody is racing for first place. The guys racing their own races, to finish as well as they can within their limits of time/budget/ability, I have a huge amount of respect for them.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 08:09:56 am
Some onboard camera footage from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/v/sTAcJzGvYFM

https://www.youtube.com/v/F5YXeIkz17I
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 09:03:18 am
From David Reeve via FB:

Today I leave for my third shot at finished the toughest and longest Race on earth...DAKAR only 168 bikes in the race so I see it as a huge privilege. .
Thanks to all my Sponsors and fan's for the support.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 27, 2014, 09:04:06 am
Albert H had his last cycle with me yesterday. I also gave him my MD roadbook and a brandnew ICO to take with as spares in his Malles Moto trunk.

Alex jy sal maar die Duitser moet geselskap hou, en geniet dit en steel sogveel jy kan met jou oe.

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 09:11:38 am
Albert H had his last cycle with me yesterday. I also gave him my MD roadbook and a brandnew ICO to take with as spares in his Malles Moto trunk.

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
I met Albert at Amageza earlier this year. I got the distinct impression that people like Bakkies Botha and Os du Rant would call him Sir. Seriously tough guy, I hope he has a great race.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 27, 2014, 09:25:46 am
Albert H had his last cycle with me yesterday. I also gave him my MD roadbook and a brandnew ICO to take with as spares in his Malles Moto trunk.

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
I met Albert at Amageza earlier this year. I got the distinct impression that people like Bakkies Botha and Os du Rant would call him Sir. Seriously tough guy, I hope he has a great race.

His 1/3 Dakar ratio is very unfair as his first attempt was stopped due to a mechanic not tightening his sump plug on day 4 and the second time round was the cancelled year that him and Clint Reaper flew out and then came home without riding a km. So his last attempt went flawless and I believe this his first Malles Moto will be a good one. He is super fit and as we know the German just switches to his own world and switches the noise out.
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Post by: gser on December 27, 2014, 09:27:29 am

 A great guy !
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 27, 2014, 11:11:19 am
Albert H had his last cycle with me yesterday. I also gave him my MD roadbook and a brandnew ICO to take with as spares in his Malles Moto trunk.

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
I met Albert at Amageza earlier this year. I got the distinct impression that people like Bakkies Botha and Os du Rant would call him Sir. Seriously tough guy, I hope he has a great race.

His 1/3 Dakar ratio is very unfair as his first attempt was stopped due to a mechanic not tightening his sump plug on day 4 and the second time round was the cancelled year that him and Clint Reaper flew out and then came home without riding a km. So his last attempt went flawless and I believe this his first Malles Moto will be a good one. He is super fit and as we know the German just switches to his own world and switches the noise out.

I thought Albert did malle moto the last time?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 27, 2014, 11:32:15 am
Red Bull gives us the Guardians of the Dakar
https://www.youtube.com/v/n4_jcv9aKG0
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Iron Shark on December 27, 2014, 06:31:10 pm
Eish looking forward to the DAKAR this year...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 08:27:46 pm
From Camelman, via FB:

Amageza to Dakar: Day 1

It all still seemed a bit surreal. Not one to get excited about stuff, I can say that as the dude at the boarding gate in Cape Town International pleaded for the last passengers to IMMEDIATELY BOARD, making me have to up my leisurely pace to 4,5 km/h, I felt a ping of excitement. About the same as when you’re blasting down a river-bed and you’re faced with a drop-off.

A day after the Amageza 2014 was finished, I was informed that the competitors are sponsoring me a Dakar trip from their tracker deposits, okay, most of them. I was worried. With only 6 months to plan Amageza 2015, could I spare 2 weeks? Andrew Johnson and Justin Bennets were adamant. Go, they said. Devil and a deep place. You live once. Was’nt this why you started Amageza? I say to myself. I chat to my wife. I have not been home the most of 2014. Now I have to leave over Christmas and New Year. Go, says my wife. I’m a lucky man. Who would have thought it, when in 2011 I strapped a sat-phone to my handlebars and a 14 man emergency kit from Dischem on the rear of my bike and chased after the first Amageza entrants, that I would be going to Dakar 4 years later. Invited by A.S.O, organisers of the most difficult rally raid on planet earth, the Dakar Rally. I’m a believer. Work your nuts off, do no evil, respect thy neighbour, and success has no choice but to follow.

Settling in for the 8 hour flight to Doha (cheapest flight) I discovered onboard wifi and $5 later was working on the 2015 Amageza Entry form. With cars joining us for 2015  :eek7:, there was quite some work to be done before entries could open. During the past week I had several calls from guys in Europe wanting to come down for the 2015 Amageza.

Surrounded by crying kids, sweaty feet and chicken or beef, we got to Doha. Already a bit miff from the flight I was faced with a 9 hour wait till the flight to Sao Paulo. At R2500 I was not going be staying in the transit hotel, and wandered around for the first two hours in a terminal bigger than Canal Walk shopping center. With 24 hour duty-free shops and a food court the size of a rugby field, it was quite a mission to wade my way through 10 000 passengers speaking every language on planet earth. Eventually I found a seat less hard than the chrome steel chairs and munched on some pringles which cost me more than a bottle of wine at home. Noticing a black face in a security uniform, I stretched out my hand in the way known to only men from the dark continent and in a flash me and the guard from Kenya was chatting a storm. Around 02:00 their time, I went looking for the so-called ‘quiet rooms’, just to find them packed like a mini-bus taxi from Khayelitsha on a public holiday.

 So I sat myself down on the steel chairs, hooked my head behind the rest and had a nap for hour. At 03:30 the 2000 transit people increased to at least 10 000 again, but I was already in zombi mode. Felt like I was back on the Amageza trying to sort the damn timing! So would begin day 2 of my Dakar Mission...

Very low res selfie. My mood would match the image resolution 15 hours later...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 08:35:08 pm
Some more from Camelman:

Finally settled with a coffee in Buenos Aires. I'll be sending my write-up and images to Wayne Harrison who will publish it on the Amageza facebook page followed by some forums.

Already one can see some Dakar fever in Argentina with people queuing for merchandise at the stalls inside the malls. At the moment I might be solo in this city, but I'm sure Darryl Curtis and his team as well as David Reeve and Gillian Dykes should be landing soon.

Thanks to Google translate I have at least figured out that a cafe, is coffee and not the shop on the corner!

And from David:
The voyage begins.

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 27, 2014, 08:44:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/1KP-lWOnHvY

..add Albert Hintenhaus, and you have:
 - a top 10 finisher overall
 - a quad podium
 - a Malle Moto podium
Watch this space :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on December 27, 2014, 09:07:30 pm
From Camelman, via FB:

Amageza to Dakar: Day 1

It all still seemed a bit surreal. Not one to get excited about stuff, I can say that as the dude at the boarding gate in Cape Town International pleaded for the last passengers to IMMEDIATELY BOARD, making me have to up my leisurely pace to 4,5 km/h, I felt a ping of excitement. About the same as when you’re blasting down a river-bed and you’re faced with a drop-off.

A day after the Amageza 2014 was finished, I was informed that the competitors are sponsoring me a Dakar trip from their tracker deposits, okay, most of them. I was worried. With only 6 months to plan Amageza 2015, could I spare 2 weeks? Andrew Johnson and Justin Bennets were adamant. Go, they said. Devil and a deep place. You live once. Was’nt this why you started Amageza? I say to myself. I chat to my wife. I have not been home the most of 2014. Now I have to leave over Christmas and New Year. Go, says my wife. I’m a lucky man. Who would have thought it, when in 2011 I strapped a sat-phone to my handlebars and a 14 man emergency kit from Dischem on the rear of my bike and chased after the first Amageza entrants, that I would be going to Dakar 4 years later. Invited by A.S.O, organisers of the most difficult rally raid on planet earth, the Dakar Rally. I’m a believer. Work your nuts off, do no evil, respect thy neighbour, and success has no choice but to follow.

Settling in for the 8 hour flight to Doha (cheapest flight) I discovered onboard wifi and $5 later was working on the 2015 Amageza Entry form. With cars joining us for 2015  :eek7:, there was quite some work to be done before entries could open. During the past week I had several calls from guys in Europe wanting to come down for the 2015 Amageza.

Surrounded by crying kids, sweaty feet and chicken or beef, we got to Doha. Already a bit miff from the flight I was faced with a 9 hour wait till the flight to Sao Paulo. At R2500 I was not going be staying in the transit hotel, and wandered around for the first two hours in a terminal bigger than Canal Walk shopping center. With 24 hour duty-free shops and a food court the size of a rugby field, it was quite a mission to wade my way through 10 000 passengers speaking every language on planet earth. Eventually I found a seat less hard than the chrome steel chairs and munched on some pringles which cost me more than a bottle of wine at home. Noticing a black face in a security uniform, I stretched out my hand in the way known to only men from the dark continent and in a flash me and the guard from Kenya was chatting a storm. Around 02:00 their time, I went looking for the so-called ‘quiet rooms’, just to find them packed like a mini-bus taxi from Khayelitsha on a public holiday.

 So I sat myself down on the steel chairs, hooked my head behind the rest and had a nap for hour. At 03:30 the 2000 transit people increased to at least 10 000 again, but I was already in zombi mode. Felt like I was back on the Amageza trying to sort the damn timing! So would begin day 2 of my Dakar Mission...

Very low res selfie. My mood would match the image resolution 15 hours later...


Got goose bumps reading that - go boy, do ya thing!

I been sitting at home, living on crutches after a knee op, reading all the banal stuff about counter-steering and shit. It's doing my mind in, FFS!!!

Wish I was back on the Amageza as well ...............................................  :'(
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: desertfox on December 27, 2014, 09:09:34 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 27, 2014, 11:12:21 pm
..add Albert Hintenhaus, and you have:
 - a top 10 finisher overall
 - a quad podium
 - a Malle Moto podium
Watch this space :thumleft:

Bliksem wouldnt that be amazing!?? Its about time the South Africans got some respect again at the Dakar. Maybe Riaan can get a top 5...if he plays things cool and everything goes well :deal:


Thanks for the cross posts Steve, great to read about Alexanders joys in Doha. Man thats a long way to fly to Brazil!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: gser on December 28, 2014, 07:23:59 am

 Lekker Steve , keep us in ZA posted , dankie boeta !
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: windswept on December 28, 2014, 11:33:37 am
In the latest Offroad & Adventure mag Matt Smith states that Brett Cummings is racing Dakar, and Darryl is racing as well. This can't be true, surely?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 28, 2014, 01:13:42 pm
In the latest Offroad & Adventure mag Matt Smith states that Brett Cummings is racing Dakar, and Darryl is racing as well. This can't be true, surely?

Nope, he's definately not riding this year.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on December 28, 2014, 01:57:50 pm
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 28, 2014, 02:54:21 pm
From Garth Roberts via FB: (the lucky bastard fellow is clearly at Dakar)

This is the Desert Rose rig... Patsy Quick fueling and Yip she drives this puppy herself!!!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 28, 2014, 03:11:32 pm
For those that don't know, Patsy Quick is an absolute Dakar legend. First female to compete in the Dakar, and first British lady to finish.
The honour of being the first female finisher went to Maria Sandell (Gooogle told me, but also told me that both Annie Seel and Andrea Mayer finished that year)

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/2740166/A-Quick-ride-across-the-desert.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/2740166/A-Quick-ride-across-the-desert.html)

Patsy Quick has a lot of sheds. Hardly surprising, considering she keeps chickens, owns a pig, runs an antiques shop and just happens to be the first British woman to finish the Dakar Rally on two wheels. As all enthusiasts know, motorcycles require a lot of shed space, especially when the bikes in question are dune-eating enduro machines that have seen more sand than a Club 18-30 holiday rep.

Selling antiques and riding off-road bikes is an unusual blend of interests but Patsy is an unusual woman. She says you have to be something of a schizophrenic to finish the Dakar and then lead a normal life. "There was a huge anticlimax," she says. "Although my achievement was indescribably fantastic, I had to get back to the drudgery of life. The first thing I had to do was my tax returns and I kept saying to myself, 'Was I really racing across the desert two weeks ago?'"

Patsy was hooked on motorbikes before she was even 13, describing her initial experience on a bike as "the greatest thing on earth". Her first machine was an off-road model. She then bought a road bike and worked as a courier for six months, but it was off-roading that she really loved.

A trip across the Sahara with her husband sealed her fate and in 2000 she decided to enter the Rallye Optic Tunisie. Having won the female class, she went on to become British and European women's enduro champion and then set her sights on the ultimate challenge: the Dakar. "It's such a human adventure," she says. "It's like this huge moving circus that each day is put up, taken down and moved on to the next point; like being on the film set of Mad Max. And it's a disease - it really does get into the blood."

Patsy has done the event four times but this was the first year she crossed the finish line. She puts her success down to three things: a different bike, previous experience and sheer luck. This year she swapped her KTM 660 for a 525 model and it seemed that the decision to exchange power for less weight was the right one. "With 250 kilos of machinery and 48 litres of fuel, the 660 is a monster," she says. "I was making it difficult for myself."

She says that, in terms of strength, women are at a disadvantage in her sport but she thinks that mentally the fairer sex might have the advantage. "I do think women can be more... well, the guys would call it 'bloody stubborn' but I suppose I would just call it determined."

But her success in the Dakar wasn't just a matter of stubbornness. It also had a lot to do with the experience and knowledge she gained from three previous Dakars. And then there was the element of luck: "It's something you can't buy; whether you're Stéphane Peterhansel or Patsy Quick, over 16 days of the Dakar you're bound to have a shitty day and its just luck whether you get through it or not."

This year her bad day came about halfway through the event, just before the rest day. She had already raced 450km when she hit some ball dust and sheared the bolt that holds the front sprocket, making the bike unrideable. "My co-rider, Clive Town, had to tow me for eight hours in the dark for 50km of dreadful piste. There were times when I thought, 'God, this Dakar's going to get my soul again,' but we kept telling ourselves it was the rest day tomorrow and eventually we got there. I have never looked at my trip meter so much in my life."

She enjoys the mechanical side of biking; as she says, "at the end of the day, if you've got a problem, you've got to be able to fix it". Her chief mechanic is her husband - also called Clive - whom she admits has a difficult role, providing not only technical but emotional support. "Every morning when I go out on the bike he's worried," she says.
"Not only because it's me - his wife - but also because he's worried whether he's done everything right on the bike. Has he done that bolt up? Has he done this, has he done that?" The couple also work together restoring antiques, although the stakes aren't quite so high if a pine table has a screw loose.
Talking about danger, how does Patsy gear herself up to compete in one of the world's most perilous events? After all, the Dakar has claimed a total of 23 competitors' lives, many of whom were bikers and this year included Australian rider Andy Caldecott.

"I'd only been talking to him the day before," she says. "When you hear the news, I can't really describe what you feel. All these things are running through your head. Could it have been me? What actually killed him? How did he die? It's like you want to stop yourself actually thinking about it properly. But the race goes on and those top riders are doing what they love. If they're going to go, that's the way they'd want it to be."

It's undoubtedly this combination of danger and endurance that makes completing the Dakar so addictive, but now that Patsy has achieved her goal of crossing the finishing line, she assures me she won't be doing it again. "Well, maybe if somebody approached me regarding a 4x4," she adds. "Or a truck... Or perhaps if somebody wanted a co-rider, maybe another girl..."
It sounds like Patsy's shed collection might be growing for some time to come.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 28, 2014, 05:56:53 pm
From Garth Roberts via FB: (the lucky bastard fellow is clearly at Dakar)

This is the Desert Rose rig... Patsy Quick fueling and Yip she drives this puppy herself!!!!

Do you know who Garth is going with Steve?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 28, 2014, 07:05:34 pm
From Garth Roberts via FB: (the lucky bastard fellow is clearly at Dakar)

This is the Desert Rose rig... Patsy Quick fueling and Yip she drives this puppy herself!!!!

Do you know who Garth is going with Steve?

It appears that I jumped to an incorrect conclusion. Garth is not at Dakar, he is at the Africa Eco Race.....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 28, 2014, 09:46:00 pm
From Wessel via FB:

I am in Buenos Aires!! 30hours in the air... why must I always take the longest route to fulfill my dreams  now to get the truck and bike out of the habour and customs... then the madness to get to the start of the 2015 Dakar... and then on Sunday morning at five the 2015 Dakar will start.... 365 days ago I had my first few days in sand with Glen Grundy in the Namib when he asked why dont I try do the Dakar ...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on December 29, 2014, 09:16:44 am
AWESOME.................

Check this out... Marc Coma doing a backflip on his 450RR....a backflip on Marc Coma's 450RR   ;D

 :o :o :o

https://www.youtube.com/v/IjXrg6yTjlQ

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 29, 2014, 10:01:41 am
Sorry to disappoint but is not Marc …
his bike yes
pro rally rider, no
pro stunter, yes
Impressive, yes

 :ricky:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 29, 2014, 10:37:40 am
Sorry to disappoint but is not Marc …
his bike yes
pro rally rider, no
pro stunter, yes
Impressive, yes

 :ricky:

Prove it. The boy knows how to flip a bike.

There was a similar argument when he jumped his rally bike over 25m in the dunes of Abu Dhabi just before the ADDC in 2012. People were saying it was photoshopped. It turned out to be him afterall. Awesome shots and videos of it are availible.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 29, 2014, 11:46:01 am
Rider was a guy Gilles De Jong - multiple champion in many classes.

Marc Coma himself was present:

“I have to take my hat off to Gilles. Never in my wildest dreams would I have tried that. I’m glad my bike is still in good shape!”

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/6920/gilles-de-jong-does-a-backflip-with-marc-comas-rally-bike-wvideo (http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/6920/gilles-de-jong-does-a-backflip-with-marc-comas-rally-bike-wvideo)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: cocky on December 29, 2014, 12:44:37 pm
Sorry to disappoint but is not Marc …
his bike yes
pro rally rider, no
pro stunter, yes
Impressive, yes

 :ricky:

Prove it. The boy knows how to flip a bike.

There was a similar argument when he jumped his rally bike over 25m in the dunes of Abu Dhabi just before the ADDC in 2012. People were saying it was photoshopped. It turned out to be him afterall. Awesome shots and videos of it are availible.
Hey Soutie, read what BigDom wrote, he speaks the truth, the Oracle he is.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 29, 2014, 02:33:25 pm
Sorry to disappoint but is not Marc …
his bike yes
pro rally rider, no
pro stunter, yes
Impressive, yes

 :ricky:

Prove it. The boy knows how to flip a bike.

There was a similar argument when he jumped his rally bike over 25m in the dunes of Abu Dhabi just before the ADDC in 2012. People were saying it was photoshopped. It turned out to be him afterall. Awesome shots and videos of it are availible.
Hey Soutie, read what BigDom wrote, he speaks the truth, the Oracle he is.

;D Eish. Ja well, Big Dom was right, I did not know that.... But he did jump this dune:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qA1ATI-4D0c/TbMR5t9WxCI/AAAAAAAABM8/Gbn0nWDTOBc/s1600/51631_Marc_Coma__1_2043_resize.jpg)

Another one

(http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/gallery/marc-coma-desert-jump-on-the-ktm-450-rally/marc-coma-ktm-450-dakar-desert-jump-1.jpg)

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 29, 2014, 04:19:43 pm
Ja I believe that display of his skills was legit  :thumleft: A definite meistro!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 29, 2014, 04:26:36 pm
Riaan and Darryl have arrived in Buenos Aires  :thumleft:

Also Gillian Dykes (remember the iron lady at the Amageza, the one that makes Maggie Thatcher looks like a cream puff?) and David Reeve:

First team meeting over breakfast
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: gser on December 29, 2014, 05:50:41 pm

Thanks BB !
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 29, 2014, 09:40:16 pm
Lovely Laia has arrived. Down boys.

"Just arrived to the airport I've received a GoPro. I'm sure I'll use it during the Dakar Rally"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 29, 2014, 09:50:50 pm
Mr Barreda also busy giving exposure to sponsors:

"Kenny Racing gives me the best quality"

An interesting bit under his right leg, an attempt as a Wilddog logo I guess?  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Buff on December 29, 2014, 09:56:32 pm
Sh!t, don't show Kilroy that, he'll be asking for royalties  ;)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Grolls on December 29, 2014, 10:07:08 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: White Rhino on December 30, 2014, 07:53:55 am
It's a Hondsa paw :laughing4:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BV on December 30, 2014, 08:11:04 am
Gilli that rode the amegeza with us is also doing the Dakar.
Decided a few years ago to go Rallying. Wife decided to divorce him then and there. Well what do a duchy do. Started training for the Dakar and got himself a 22 year old Brazilian girlfriend. Super nice guy. We talked some on the Amegeza and he help Laia with fuel in a rally. Then rode with her. He was super impress. She can ride, is nice is Very marketable.

Here is his Facebook link.


https://www.facebook.com/guillaume.martens.rally?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/guillaume.martens.rally?fref=ts)
Title: Ted Barbier YOUDAMAN!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 01:56:09 pm
Below extracts of a FB thread regarding David Reeve's baggage, currently located  - well we aren't quite sure.....

Gillian Dykes
Please can someone just kick South African airways butt for me? Race kit bag has gone awol and I need contact details or some help. They took the baggage tags from us and so trying to trace it is impossible. Any advice or contact no gratefully received.

Ted Barbier pls send me all info, flight and all David Reeve details..... if need be I will go to airport

Gillian Dykes Guys thank you. Ok it is 2 pieces, one black hard case suit case, and one bedroll/ swag. It was loaded on in Zambia on sat 27 December ... and they booked it all the way through to argentina. We never saw it again despite asking on Saturday morning at OR Tambo by showing them the luggage tag, but at Jhb they said it would be on our flight. When we landed in São Paulo on Saturday we asked and they did not give us an answer. Upon landing at BA we filled out a form but they took our baggage tags, big mistake as that is our reference no

Ted Barbier Will get onto it right away

Ted Barbier No luck over phone..... driving to airport now. Will keep you posted

Ted Barbier Bags were left at jhb....New tag numbers on the baggage is xxxx& yyyy hope this helps. Will arrive sometime today. If you have any further problems pls contact me.

Ted Barbier I will let David Reeve know he can stop been bloody grumpy now.....lol

David Reeve Ted Barbier you are a magician. ...I owe you a few beers bro...hope to see my stuff soon..added stress is always a shhhleppp..

David Reeve Saa airways are a bunch of CHOPPS.

Gillian Dykes Ted Barbier I owe you huge love you madly

Ted Barbier Cool.....just wish I was there

David Reeve Next time ted. Dont let the dream go buddy.

Erick Nevels Gilly, I had nothing to do with all this, hahajjaa, glad to know you are back on track and hope to see you soon, and dont think of any revensious attitudes please!! Happy new year and take care, it will be good to see you again!!

Gillian Dykes Hey Erick thanks I have very relieved rider here....Not even you and Darryl could have planned this. See you soon
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 01:59:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/aZUdl2v71U0
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 02:01:38 pm
Via Adventure Riders SA FB page:

Dakar blast from the past! Original KTM 950 Rally LC8 Team.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on December 30, 2014, 03:08:32 pm
Those orange rims...  :drif:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: JAmBer on December 30, 2014, 07:16:13 pm
Yay! I've finally caught up on all the action! I'm glad to hear our boys are rolling-in to BA and (luggage issues notwithstanding) are ready to rumble!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on December 30, 2014, 08:14:49 pm
From yesterday's Twtter

Quote
Laia Sanz ‏@LaiaSanz_ 21h21 hours ago

Our flight has been canceled!! The arrival to Buenos Aires will have to wait until tomorrow..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6DWPpeCcAAjXDY.jpg)

Followed this morning by:

Quote
Laia Sanz ‏@LaiaSanz_ 8h8 hours ago

2° round!! Now it seems that we can finally leave!! We’re flying to Buenos Aires!! ✊ #Dakar2015

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6GNZVLCEAMNDpH.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 08:25:47 pm
Eish, SAA not doing so well.

Gillian Dykes Man can South African airways let down more dakar competitors just heard mike and Johan have had their luggage go missing

Brian Baragwanath Ours arrived last night at hotel. One package still missing though. An axle. Thanks saa
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 08:44:58 pm
Gillian Dykes Rumour has that our luggage is at hotel. We are yet to see it with our eyes but according to lady behind desk at EZE it was delivered to hotel. I rang hotel and in my best Spanglish established that we may have kit and a bedroll . Thanks Ted Barbier
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 30, 2014, 10:56:44 pm
Via FB: David Reeve - Doing decals and mousses
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 06:55:07 am
Via FB:
Riaan's first look at his Dakar machine, we will give it the Broadlink touch in the morning.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 06:57:43 am
Via Gilly FB:
And the finished product
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Post by: Cracker on December 31, 2014, 08:45:28 am
B+  :biggrin:

motivational blood type  :thumleft:
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Post by: EtienneXplore on December 31, 2014, 11:49:47 am
Some more pics posted by David

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10406413_821572231237154_5386788658153363665_n.jpg?oh=029f82776f0c8b7fbc59e1c99fd7cdfd&oe=54F99227)

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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1926870_821572287903815_1069098910269557045_n.jpg?oh=d1fbe1296724f64485c8a5347f675239&oe=5531BD7C&__gda__=1430610241_c59ee8c214fc0a3dba5fd2c9c96ee389)

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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 31, 2014, 04:26:40 pm
Message from Albert:

Status after first day in BA: found bike at port, assembled and rode it back to assistance park in plakkies (70 km), Memo Tours helped me get my trunk and spare wheels, tent and mattress back into town on their truck. Bike running fine, all assembled and ready to fit nav and safety gear at scrutineering on 1st January.
I have all my luggage, all my kit, spares and tools, a good hotel, tomorrow a bit of re-packing my trunk for the ASO truck and the rest of the day off.
Anvil, when you have a minute please add Graham Spatchbob to this as well as Dave Addison.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 31, 2014, 04:29:34 pm
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: tau on December 31, 2014, 04:30:13 pm
Will update here as he whutsup me.


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 04:34:11 pm
Will update here as he whutsup me.

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(I notice he still has the Amageza race number on his bike. Same bike, or just same fairing?)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: gser on December 31, 2014, 04:34:56 pm
 Any word from #143 Wessel Bosman , anybody ?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on December 31, 2014, 07:32:48 pm
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Laia Sanz ‏@LaiaSanz_ 33m33 minutes ago

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After a too long first liasion in airports with flights canceled, we've finally joined the rest of the @RallyTeamHRC pic.twitter.com/oZpnRMrsI5
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 07:52:24 pm
Someone worth following:

Clayton Jacobsen was one of the riders caught up in Canyongate last year - he's back for 2015 and it looks like he will be posting news and updates on his FB page here

https://www.facebook.com/claytondakar2014?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/claytondakar2014?fref=ts)

The whole sorry story from last year, in his words: (I'll be cheering him on wildly, after this he deserves to finish)
Hi All,

Sorry for the delay in information, I have been choking on my result and not wanting to relive it.

So here it is My Dakar Day 3 - Short and Bitter,

So this years race has been brutal, my race came to an end on Day 3, not from crashing, exhaustion or mechanical problems but I was a victim of the organisers desire to make the toughest race in the world, the toughest race in the world.

Day 3 started fine, although as soon as the course opened up from the tight technical canyons we started in I came across broken bikes and riders.

At the fuel stop the photographer said he had picked up 4 riders with broken bones in the helicopter.

I seemed to have found a rhythm that worked and was navigating well and picking up some places without pushing (pushing is bad, you will crash).

Around 60kms from the end of the stage we started to climb in the mountains 2000m up to 4000m. On one of the climbs I got caught half way up when blocked by another rider and realised i had a major free flowing fuel leak. I did not want the bike to catch on fire so i kept it upright on the climb while the fuel drained away.

10mins later I ran out of fuel, I asked rider after rider if i could have some fuel and no one would spare any as the stage still had 60kms to go. Eventually an italian rider gave me a litre to continue up to CP2. I had wasted about 90mins trying to get fuel ( this is what put me in a bad position and late for the CP).

On getting to the bottom of a very technical and difficult climb at CP2 around 4000m, the organisation had placed their vehicle across the track and said the stage is closed as there is to many injured and missing riders , we are to wait here for news from race control.

There we broken bikes and people all about the place.

I called race control on my iritrack twice to confirm what was happening and they said it was with the jury, and we are to stay put.

Some riders turned back but 7 of us who were ready to go waited, we were held there until we were losing the light, the organisation said we must decend as the temperature will drop quickly.

We were constantly asking about our race position and what this delay means for our start the next day, we were told by race control arrangements were being made for a delayed start for us.

We were given the option to sleep in the mountains or ride to San juan bivouac for further instructions which we elected to do only to be told we must not ride the mountains at night as it is too dangerous. These instruction were given to us from the head of the race David Casters.

We froze at 2700m with only our plastic foil blanket and CP banners for warmth.

In the morning before dawn we were not allowed to leave as riders were still missing in the area and we could not leave until they were found.

Eventually we were able to leave and ride to San Jaun bivouac and then told to go the next bivouac 550kms away.

There we pleaded our case to the head of motorcycles who said it would go to the jury as we had missed the stage.

We were informed we had been excluded from the race 1 hr later.

We then took our protest to the race control who understood there had been a mistake but could do nothing about it.

We then took our protest to the head of the Dakar David Caster who agreed he had made a mistake but because they had lost control of the security of the race we would not be allowed to start the next day.

This argument went on for 3hrs.

The final word was "it is not possible" for us to start the next day.

They agreed we had followed the rules from the organisation exactly as required and that he had held us and made us miss the start and that was a mistake.

Still the verdict stood.

The 7 of us were excluded from Dakar 2014.

A very disappointing result we got F&@£ed by the ASO

Sorry I did not get there.

Watch this space.

CJ
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on December 31, 2014, 08:01:45 pm
Wonder if they got complimentary 2015 entries?  ::)  Knowing French beurocracy very slim chance.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 08:05:45 pm
Some random peechas, stolen offf ADVrider

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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on December 31, 2014, 08:30:27 pm
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/IMG_3777_zps07314f0f.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/IMG_3777_zps07314f0f.jpg.html)

Spotted by Jenny - HRC Hondas have electronic traction control!
(I think Honda have concluded that they need rear wheel ABS on dirt)  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: bonova on December 31, 2014, 11:13:17 pm
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/IMG_3777_zps07314f0f.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/IMG_3777_zps07314f0f.jpg.html)

Spotted by Jenny - HRC Hondas have electronic traction control!
(I think Honda have concluded that they need rear wheel ABS on dirt)  :peepwall:

And some sort of liquid in the swing arm?! There is a plug top front and a drain tap bottom rear swingarm....  Water?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 06:25:24 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 06:30:48 am
Ok so Darryl's baby has got its new clothing and a few fettels 'n tweaks fitted like factory suspension etc … I believe some testing today… no traction control needed  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 07:04:28 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 07:55:08 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)

Agree, in theory …
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 08:00:03 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)

Agree.

Morning and Happy New Year, my head has not quite caught up with the idea of morning, but the Gout / Arthrytis has....   :sip:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: White Rhino on January 01, 2015, 10:13:26 am
Happy new year Dakar enthusiasts !!!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 11:00:06 am
Any word from #143 Wessel Bosman , anybody ?

The man crept out of the woodwork - or the container, in this case  :thumleft:

Via FB:
We, Tulie Le Roux, Nico Swart and I took the bike and the Ford F250 out of the container in Buenos Aires! Then in the streets of Buenos Aires to the hotel and then the stickers on the bike! Amazing day with everything turned out 100%

..on the pavement outside the hotel to put the stickers on the Rally Replica
..At just after 20:30 the bike looks better than the rider!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zacapa on January 01, 2015, 11:01:34 am
Interesting link on ADV Rider on how to watch livestreaming of the Dakar on VLC

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1032715&highlight=Dakar+2015 (http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1032715&highlight=Dakar+2015)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 11:20:14 am
Via Joan Barreda FB:
Last adjustments...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 11:23:25 am
Looks like Mr Barreda is using the RNS dual ICO switch, with RNS tripmeters too

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=153875.msg3115932#msg3115932 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=153875.msg3115932#msg3115932)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 11:38:57 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)

I gather that the swingarm has indeed been used to store water before.
There was an interesting discussion about in in an ADVrider thread.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352)

From the Yamaha WR450F Rally Specification (the one Cyril Depres rode last year):
Factory swingarm (with water tank)

Maybe Honda did the same thing this year?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on January 01, 2015, 11:41:04 am
Must admit those new Honda's look really mean!

I think this might be their year?  :ricky: :patch: :thumleft

Must be so exciting to be there and be putting the finishing touches to your bike on the side of the pavement like so many above!

Wish them all every success!
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on January 01, 2015, 11:46:52 am
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)

I gather that the swingarm has indeed been used to store water before.
There was an interesting discussion about in in an ADVrider thread.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352)

From the Yamaha WR450F Rally Specification (the one Cyril Depres rode last year):
Factory swingarm (with water tank)

Maybe Honda did the same thing this year?

I agree with Welsh, its a crap idea from an engineering point of view.  Think about how much/rapidly the swing arm has to move to track the terrain beneath you at speed.  The better it can track the terrain the more it can keep your rear wheel in contact with the ground, the better traction, control, acceleration, speed etc etc.

The lighter the swingarm is (as well as the rest of the wheel assembly etc), the better it can do that!  Filling it with water is not smart - its just making your own life difficult IMO. 
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 12:08:49 pm
probably to drain water - common swing arm problem that leads to rusted and seized adjusters … unless this is the new place to store your compulsory 3l water  ::) …. now traction control WTF?

Agreed a drain, no chance they would want fluid in there, unsprung weight......

Traction control makes sense in terms of tyre preservation.. 8)

I gather that the swingarm has indeed been used to store water before.
There was an interesting discussion about in in an ADVrider thread.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543325&highlight=swingarm&page=352)

From the Yamaha WR450F Rally Specification (the one Cyril Depres rode last year):
Factory swingarm (with water tank)

Maybe Honda did the same thing this year?

A further clue?

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 12:27:02 pm
Accepted, maybe it is a water tank but kark idea unless you fill it to comply with rules then dump it?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 12:30:59 pm
Accepted, maybe it is a water tank but kark idea unless you fill it to comply with rules then dump it?

Yamaha have it on their 2015 bikes again. I must agree that where many used to carry it in the bash plate makes more sense.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on January 01, 2015, 01:44:56 pm
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Hmm..intriguing! Would love to know more...

Accepted, maybe it is a water tank but kark idea unless you fill it to comply with rules then dump it?


Maybe. 

Perhaps some bright spark realised the volume of the swingarm was at least 3 liters and thought this would be an easy way to comply with the rules (pretty easy to insert a set of plugs into the swing arm)?  Maybe the logic is: if you think you're going to die from lack of water, then fill it up and accept the handling issues (if you can notice them) - otherwise, just let the water out before you get to the start?  Either way your bike complies with the rules?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 01:59:45 pm
(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=153875.0;attach=396028;image)
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Hmm..intriguing! Would love to know more...

Accepted, maybe it is a water tank but kark idea unless you fill it to comply with rules then dump it?


Maybe. 

Perhaps some bright spark realised the volume of the swingarm was at least 3 liters and thought this would be an easy way to comply with the rules (pretty easy to insert a set of plugs into the swing arm)?  Maybe the logic is: if you think you're going to die from lack of water, then fill it up and accept the handling issues (if you can notice them) - otherwise, just let the water out before you get to the start?  Either way your bike complies with the rules?

Its interesting, on a bike that dialed in yes 3kg unsprung is hugely significant, BUT a large % is close to the pivot so the net effect which is all about the inertia, so the effect is the square of the distance from the pivot, it could be sensible as we do not know what the internal construction looks like? maybe 75% is located around the pivot?  8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on January 01, 2015, 02:10:11 pm
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Darryl Curtis ‏@DarrylCurtisSA 9m9 minutes ago

About to go testing let's hope it stops raining @dakar

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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on January 01, 2015, 02:23:03 pm
(http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=153875.0;attach=396028;image)
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Hmm..intriguing! Would love to know more...

Accepted, maybe it is a water tank but kark idea unless you fill it to comply with rules then dump it?


Maybe. 

Perhaps some bright spark realised the volume of the swingarm was at least 3 liters and thought this would be an easy way to comply with the rules (pretty easy to insert a set of plugs into the swing arm)?  Maybe the logic is: if you think you're going to die from lack of water, then fill it up and accept the handling issues (if you can notice them) - otherwise, just let the water out before you get to the start?  Either way your bike complies with the rules?

Its interesting, on a bike that dialed in yes 3kg unsprung is hugely significant, BUT a large % is close to the pivot so the net effect which is all about the inertia, so the effect is the square of the distance from the pivot, it could be sensible as we do not know what the internal construction looks like? maybe 75% is located around the pivot?  8)

It makes me wonder how much space there is in the frame for water - perhaps not all 3l are in the swingarm. Looking at the swingarm on my 450, I can't see 3l fitting in there.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alanB on January 01, 2015, 02:25:13 pm
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Its interesting, on a bike that dialed in yes 3kg unsprung is hugely significant, BUT a large % is close to the pivot so the net effect which is all about the inertia, so the effect is the square of the distance from the pivot, it could be sensible as we do not know what the internal construction looks like? maybe 75% is located around the pivot?  Cool

Ja was thinking the same thing.  But at the end of the day 3kg's is quite a lot of weight to attach to your swing arm, so even if the moment of inertia is only slightly increased due to it being close to the pivot, its still increased -  ie going in the wrong direction (racing is all about lighter/faster/quicker etc).  Putting the water in the bash plate just below the exhaust is still a better option IMO.  Its low down, out of the way, and should have the minimum impact on the overall bike's performance.

Maybe there is some new rule about not putting it there anymore?  I have heard somewhere that it tends to boil away? (Which may have its own design issues relating to the pressure of steam etc).

If that is a water tank in the swingarm, then its probably just a compromise in terms of the easiest way to implement the rules when it came to designing/building the bike.  And maybe with your suggested caveat in that no-one expects it to be full during the race anyway?  If that's the case then it is a neat idea, requiring virtually no extra design/manufacturing effort to comply?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 01, 2015, 02:33:48 pm
Ja and a 'oops sorry the drain plug must have come out accidently'  or Í was velly thirzrty'  … wonder what Herr Alex would say  :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ahlbebuck on January 01, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
I would think that in some instances the extra inertia could be an advantage in actually reducing bouncing of the swing arm. Perhaps a fractionally longer period of traction can help? It is also tunable - they can release some or all of the water if needed legally after the start?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on January 01, 2015, 04:24:13 pm
Surely, if we've worked out that they can release the water after scrutineering then so has the competition as well as ASO.

And if nothing is said or done about, then the others must surely be releasing their bash-plate water as well, negating the point of having the water in the first place.

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ahlbebuck on January 01, 2015, 04:31:47 pm
Surely, if we've worked out that they can release the water after scrutineering then so has the competition as well as ASO.

And if nothing is said or done about, then the others must surely be releasing their bash-plate water as well, negating the point of having the water in the first place.



It absolves the race organisers. Not their problem if riders CHOOSE to lose the water....
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 04:36:10 pm
Surely, if we've worked out that they can release the water after scrutineering then so has the competition as well as ASO.

And if nothing is said or done about, then the others must surely be releasing their bash-plate water as well, negating the point of having the water in the first place.



YES BUT WATER IS JUST RULES.... not racing  8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on January 01, 2015, 04:49:30 pm
No need to shout, Welsh - I've got a bloody hangover  :(
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 04:54:44 pm
No need to shout, Welsh - I've got a bloody hangover  :(

WHAT THE FFFFFF........... ITS 17:00 in the AFTERNOON........ are you telling me you have been NURSING THIS ALL DAY...... only one cure.............. CARRY ON...............  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: ahlbebuck on January 01, 2015, 06:04:29 pm
This is good - Robbie Gordon's prep for 2015 - long documentary but worth the download. Get part 1 & 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWiIFVPBdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWiIFVPBdU)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 09:42:17 pm
From Gilly via FB:
Pics in the pits
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 09:46:39 pm
From http://www.netwerk24.com/sport/2014-11-21-oud-bok-pak-dakar-ren (http://www.netwerk24.com/sport/2014-11-21-oud-bok-pak-dakar-ren)

Oud-Bok pak Dakar-ren
Die oud-Springbokatleet Wessel Bosman het in sy lewe al oor baie hekkies geseil, maar nou lê ’n baie hoë hekkie vir hom voor.

Die 56-jarige voormalige Suid-Afrikaanse rekordhouer in die 110 m-hekkies (13.63s, 1988) gaan in Januarie as motorfietsjaer aan die moordende 37ste Dakar-tydren oor sowat 9 000 km in Suid-Amerika deelneem.

Die jaers sal in die moeilikste terrein denkbaar in Argentinië, Chili en Bolivië jaag. Altesame 414 voertuie – van tydrenmotors tot vragmotors, motorfietse en kwadfietse – sal aan dié skouspel deelneem wat jaarliks tot ’n miljard televisiekykers wêreldwyd lok.

Die tydren, wat oor 14 skofte in 16 dae beslis word, begin op 4 Januarie in Buenos Aires in Argentinië en eindig op 17 Januarie in dieselfde stad.

Bosman weet dit gaan nie maklik wees nie.

Hy het ter voorbereiding van die tydren al twee keer hárd geval en sy knie en skouerblad beseer – én ses ribbes gebreek.

“Dit gaan élke dag taai wees. Verlede jaar het meer as die helfte van die motorfietsjaers nie die wedren voltooi nie.”

Nege jaar gelede het Bosman en sy seun, Johan, alleen met twee motorfietse in net 19 dae van Kaïro tot in Kaapstad gery. Hulle moes hul spaarbande en onderdele op die motorfietse saamry.

Vyf maande later het die 24-jarige Johan op dieselfde motorfiets waarmee hy deur Afrika gery het, verongeluk toe ’n motor hom by ’n verkeerslig in Pretoria getref het.

Bosman, wat in 1980-’81 en 1988 en ’89 ’n Springbokatleet was, is ’n jaar gelede deur ’n vriend, Glen Grundy, wat al aan die Dakar deelgeneem het, oorreed om ook dié moordende Dakar-ren te pak.

Om te kwalifiseer moes Bosman aan een van die kwalifiserende tydrenne deelneem.

Dit het hy gedoen deur aan die Pharaons-tydren oor 3 100 km in vyf dae deel te neem, en tiende algeheel te eindig.

Wat sy prestasie indrukwekkender maak, is dat hy binne 22 dae van Bethlehem, waar hy woon, met dieselfde motorfiets waarmee hy deelgeneem het, tot in Egipte gery het.

“Ek het die oggend 11:00 by die Rooi See aangekom en die volgende middag het ons weggespring,” het Bosman vandeesweek gesê.

“Die wedren het by die piramides in Kaïro begin – daar waar ek en Johan nege jaar gelede ons reis Kaap toe begin het. Ek het aan daardie wedren deelgeneem ter nagedagtenis aan Johan.”

Ná dié tydren is hy met sy motorfiets Parys, Frankryk, toe om die Dakar-organiseerders te oortuig om sy inskrywing te aanvaar.

“Ek is ook na die KTM-fabriek om te hoor of hulle dink ek sal met my gewone KTM 450 die Dakar-wedren kan voltooi.

“Hulle het vir my gelag en voorgestel ek moet eerder ’n KTM 450 Rally Replica koop.

“Dié fiets kos sowat R450 000, maar die voordeel is dat ek al die onderdele wat ek nodig sou kry vir die Dakar, by KTM se onderdele-afdeling kan kry wat elke dag die roete volg,” het Bosman vertel.

Sy splinternuwe motorfiets is vandeesweek in Roodepoort voorberei.

Die motorfiets én die viertrek-voertuig waarmee Bosman se twee helpers, die Vrystaatse boere Nico Swart en Tulie le Roux gaan ry, word vroeg volgende maand in ’n vraghouer Argentinië toe verskeep.

Bosman en sy twee helpers vertrek op 26 Desember na Argentinië.

Die oud-Springbok, wat destyds, toe hy nog ’n polisieman was, deur Willie Olivier afgerig is, het baie hard geoefen om fiks te word vir die Dakar-ren.

“Ek het nou die dag ses uur aaneen met my bergfiets gery. Maar ná al die gevallery, sal ek die Dakar seker met ’n kierie moet voltooi,” het Bosman laggend gesê.

Dié keer sak die oud-Springbok nie as een van die gunstelinge in baan vier of vyf nie. Hy is die groentjie in baan agt.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 09:50:23 pm
From Darryl via twitter:
About to go testing let's hope it stops raining
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 10:21:52 pm
Taken from http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25826868&postcount=35 (http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25826868&postcount=35)

F5 ADV - Dakar 2015 - THE DAY'S ROUTE -  BIKE / QUAD  -  collection

A = all vehicles map    M/Q = special bike/quad map


THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 1   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 2   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/200/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/200/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 3   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 4   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/400/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/400/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 5   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/PROFIL_US.gif)....A

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 6   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/600/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/600/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 7   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/700/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/700/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 8   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/800/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/800/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 9   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/900/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/900/PROFIL_US.gif)....A

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 10   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1000/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1000/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 11   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1100/M/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1100/M/PROFIL_US.gif)....M/Q

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 12   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1200/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1200/PROFIL_US.gif)....A

THE DAY'S ROUTE - Stage 13   -  Bike/Quad  - 
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(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1300/CARTE.png) (http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/1300/PROFIL_US.gif)....A
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 01, 2015, 10:27:51 pm
The tracking site is already up.
So much better than the ASO site.

http://dakar.visser.it/

Consider a donation?


This website is offered free by Mischa Visser. In recent years I have been working on this site, because it is very difficult to follow the participants during the Dakar stages. On this page a live ranking can be retrieved, so it can be good view of how your favorite participant is doing against the competition. This way you can see during the stage if anyone will make great leaps in the standings. Of course, I also depend on the available information, so my apologies if they are not fully updated or delayed.
This is not a commercial website and use is free. A lot of time and money is invested in order to provide the site. I will try as much as possible to reduce the number of ads. Should you wish to contribute a bit, then it is possible to donate a small amount. I would appreciate it very much.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Chili Dog on January 02, 2015, 08:37:55 am
Maybe it's been covered . Where can I get some TV coverage? Doesn't seem to be anything in DSTV


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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:06:17 pm
Some photos from Guillaume, via FB:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:09:26 pm
From Darryl via FB:
After the morning showers finished and our secret test track dried out, Dakar Rally .Riaan got some good laps in on his Broadlink KTM, check out these awesome pics courtesy of Marcin Kin the legend
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:12:17 pm
Yamaha Factory Racing’s Olivier Pain Talks 2015 Dakar

From http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/...202015%20Dakar (http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/...202015%20Dakar)

(http://images.yamaha-racing.com/photo/news/P20141229092140608.jpg)

“The thing that initially strikes me when I look at the 2015 edition is its similarity with the route the first time we raced the Dakar in South America back in 2009, with a start and finish in Buenos Aires. I remember vividly the huge crowds that came out to see us then and I’m pretty sure there’ll be the same impressive mass of spectators next January 4th. It’s a great way to start the race and you can’t help but be swept up in their enthusiasm. I’m pretty certain about the kind of welcome we will receive throughout our loop through Argentina, Chile and Bolivia. However, nothing that leaked out prior to the 2014 edition prepared us for the level of difficulty we experienced on the first week."


Week 1
"Still, if we look at the route a bit more closely we can make some educated guesses about what to expect. The first day is a long stage but a short special, 663 and 175 kilometres respectively. It has been billed as a giant prologue without major difficulty and that seems entirely logical. Clearly the challenge is to not get carried away and do anything stupid right at the start of the race, while making sure to be up with the front runners and not stuck in the dust of the mid-pack riders, to be well positioned for the stages prior to crossing over the Andes into Chile."

"From the second stage on you could say that the Dakar ‘proper’ gets under way with two tough stages to Chilecito. In the past this region has caused plenty of problems for competitors of all abilities. In the previous edition we had temperatures up in the high 40s and clearly this can be very tough on both man and machine. You don’t want to push either into the ‘red’ but again you can’t afford to fall back too far. A few years ago we had big storms and they can bring their own problems. Whatever the conditions, these two stages need to be approached with great care, so as to be sure to get to the crossing into Chile in the best possible shape."

"From Chilecito we’ll have a long liaison over the Andes towards Copiapo. It’s likely to be very cold, subzero is not impossible and we’ll reach altitudes of around 4800 metres. All this will be done in liaison, but as we are racing soon after we get over the other side, and still have another two big stages before the rest day, you want to keep the impact of the Andean passage to an absolute minimum!"

"The Atacama Desert stages are always a highlight of the rally and something I will be looking forward to. We are in wide open spaces where good navigation is essential and it’s a challenge I personally relish. I’m not one to follow the rest of the pack blindly and will be making sure I read my road book very carefully to put in a series of good results. The race is often won or lost during this kind of going and for me it is the very essence of rally-raid."

"Then on arriving in Iquique we get our well earned rest day. This is a bit of a euphemism because between various team briefings and press interviews there always seems little time to actually rest! Still, I should at least get the time to have a good sort through my bags and squeeze in a quick afternoon siesta!"


Week 2
"Straight after the rest day we head into Bolivia for a couple of days. Unless the organisers have found some special ‘bike only’ tracks, for us I think the route will be similar to last year’s and relatively straightforward. There are however three elements that could complicate matters. The first is that it is a marathon stage, meaning that we have no outside mechanical assistance for the night we are there. These marathon stages are always a special moment on the Dakar. The bike competitors are all alone, in pretty basic conditions and that creates a very different, more intimate atmosphere. Obviously not having any assistance adds another dimension. If you don’t have any problems with your bike then you just check it over, change the air filter and get on with marking up the next day’s road book. But if you’ve had a crash or some other mechanical issue then you know you are in for a late night and lots of improvisation to make repairs as best you can ready to start the next day. The other challenge is that the bivouac is at 3500 metres and you will feel the difference. You will be short of breath and might not sleep so well, all of which puts additional strain on an already tired body!"

"Heading back to Iquique there is talk of us crossing the biggest dried salt lake in the world. I think that it is something ridiculous like 100 kilometres wide. We were supposed to cross it last year but apparently it wasn’t dry enough. Whether we do it this year remains to be seen. For sure the organisers can’t take the risk of the whole race sinking under the lake’s salty crust."

"The next day we say farewell to the Atacama Desert, which can always come up with some surprises, before heading back over the Andes - direction Salta - and our second marathon stage of the rally. Clearly this is going to be one of the toughest two days of the rally. The high altitude always takes it out of you and, to make matters worse, we start the special at 3600 metres, which means not much air for either the bike or the rider. Then when we get down to Salta we’ll have to manage on our own again with no mechanical assistance. That means riding to preserve the bike and pilot and making sure your tyres aren’t too destroyed for the following day. Fortunately we have a single cell fuel tank this year which should make the bike much easier to service."

"After that, in theory at least, it should be a relatively straightforward run back down to Buenos Aires, over relatively flowing WRC tyre ‘pistes’. I say ‘in theory’ because you never know really know what the organisers, the terrain, the climate or Lady Luck will throw at you. We will know a bit more when we get to Buenos Aires and the organisers give us a more detailed breakdown of the stages. I’ll have another good look at the stage profiles but I’ll still be on my guard. It’s tempting to get too far ahead of yourself and run ‘your’ Dakar film through your head before you’ve even started. Experience has taught me that it is better to take it one day at a time and expected the unexpected. Pretty much the only thing you can be certain of for 2015 is that, just like every year, the Dakar will be the toughest motorsport challenge on the planet and a great way to start the New Year!"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:14:38 pm
From Jenny (JMo) via FB:

1/1/15 @ 22.45: Another milestone met, and passed with flying colours (that will be red, white & blue - and yellow!)... John Mitchinson has just phoned in from South America and confirmed the Rally Raid Products LC4-50 is through the final scrutineering and approved to start the Dakar Rally 2015! It's a wonderful and emotional time for all concerned!

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/B6TGqgeCcAALXda_zps7db5aeea.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2015, 01:16:50 pm
From Darryl via FB:
After the morning showers finished and our secret test track dried out, Dakar Rally .Riaan got some good laps in on his Broadlink KTM, check out these awesome pics courtesy of Marcin Kin the legend

Very schweet pics - such skill, such style  :ricky:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:20:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/zRNpNmRtlS0
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:22:34 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:25:16 pm
Stolen off ADVrider. I like the details on the nav tower and Iritrack.

Quote from: JMo (& piglet);25832779
While everyone is out in South America busying themselves with last-minute prep and the tedium of the admin and scrutineering process, I thought I'd share a few photos from KTMmitch of Carl Hagenblad (#159) and the LC4-50 going through the process yesterday, together with Ralf Molander (#163), Chris 'Corky' Cork (#104), and the rest of the Torque Racing team... (I think the Berglund brothers are scheduled to go through later today).

First up, the LC4-50 undergoing final prep - all the get-you-going-again spares that Calle might need during the first stage (and subsequently) are stashed around the navigation tower... and under the seat... and pretty much everywhere that John can squirrel something useful away, whilest not getting in the way of the rider at all:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg3_zpsbc7ffded.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg3_zpsbc7ffded.jpg.html)

This is important as straight after scrutineering, the vehicles are put in a 'parc ferme' and are not accessible again until the morning of the first day.

Of course there is nothing to stop you putting something you'd forgotten in your pocket and fixing it to the bike before you start - but the adage of the multiple 'P's is a good motto for Dakar "Piss Poor Preparation Prevents Proper Performance" or something like that...

Note. Iritrack (blue box) fitted to side of nav tower:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg4_zps24cf320c.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg4_zps24cf320c.jpg.html)

The weather yesterday started with rain again, and a number of the bikes (including Elsie) around the bivouac had dead batteries - not least because the Orga insist that the Iritrack devices (which are fitted in Le Havre prior to shipping) remain connected for the duration of the transatlantic shipping - despite everyone knowing exactly where they are of course (perhaps they are worried about pirates or something?)... anyway, the result is more often than not a flat or at least significantly depleted battery on arrival in South America.

Fortunately the battery on the LC4-50 (a comparatively huge YTS10, same as the regular KTM 690) just needed a quick charge to get up to cranking amps again - although as a precaution they will replace it with a new one over the next few days.

So with the bike prepped, and Calle in his riding gear (they also want to check your helmet and body armour, plus fit your race numbers to your jacket) it was off to the scrutineering hall:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg7_zps18f29ac7.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg7_zps18f29ac7.jpg.html)
(by the look on Donna's face, I think she is questioning Carl's choice of sunglasses! ;o)

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg12_zpsd5a44eca.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg12_zpsd5a44eca.jpg.html)

cont.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:28:21 pm
Quote from: JMo (& piglet);25832781
The scrutineering process is both longwinded, and often overwhelming - and includes a multitude of administration checks and stamps, before presenting your machine for technical checks:

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg18_zps7ff381a4.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg18_zps7ff381a4.jpg.html)

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg16_zps55240394.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg16_zps55240394.jpg.html)

Torque Racing rider #163 Ralf Molander lining up at ASO's most important station - the financial check ;o) note. this is only station number 5
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg20_zps8dc732ac.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg20_zps8dc732ac.jpg.html)

Another Torque Racing rider #104 Chris Cork at the Iritrack station - number 18
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg22_zpscb87ee9c.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg22_zpscb87ee9c.jpg.html)

And not least Torque Racing themselves - Martin & Donna, undergoing a similar series of procedures for the assistance vehicle:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg25_zps4f25936f.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg25_zps4f25936f.jpg.html)

Once the paperwork is complete, competitors present their machines at the scrutineering line... and wait.
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg26_zps99ad0bfa.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg26_zps99ad0bfa.jpg.html)

In the background you can see the 'Moto Bibs' station, where the Orga fix snaps to the back of your jacket and present you with your race number bibs (one to fit, and one spare) - well, for €14,700 Euro entre fee I'd expect more than bloody safety pins too you know!
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg27_zps131047c7.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg27_zps131047c7.jpg.html)

ASO Technical Director and chief scrutineer Jordi Perez, personally checking the LC4-50:
(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/imagejpg31_zps330ecc88.jpg) (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/ktmmitch111/media/Dakar%202015/imagejpg31_zps330ecc88.jpg.html)

Over the past two and a half years in development, Jordi was the man who very much had final say whether the LC4-50 (which is effectively built around a converted KTM 690 Enduro) would ultimately be eligible for entry into the Dakar - which in the Moto class, must be based on a production machine. I won't go into the details here (there is a full explanation towards the end of the Dakar Dazed II - part 2 thread), but suffice to say that despite reassurances all along that the paperwork would comply (there was never any doubt about the physical/technical aspect), at the 11th hour, ASO insisted we put the bike through UK [single vehicle] Type Approval, and reclassify it as a model (and manufacturer) in it's own right... so technically, Rally Raid Products are the newest motorcycle manufacturer in Dakar this year - what a debut!

cont.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2015, 01:29:29 pm
I must say these nav towers on some bikes just seem to be getting really BIG and carried much further forward than before. Maybe lighter composites keep the weight the same or down?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 02, 2015, 01:36:58 pm
I find the LC4-50 concept shown above, very interesting particularly for the "lower budget/ MalMoto" competitor... a bullet proof 690 package, with a 450cc capacity... so gearbox / bottom end etc etc are strong.... nice concept...  8)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 02, 2015, 01:42:17 pm
Some pics from Princess Laia's testing........


(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s851x315/10888365_766018186808026_2391559045175865761_n.jpg?oh=12cefe8fed91ddae77a5b4aa5c70ae14&oe=554621E5)

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10366143_766018346808010_683875619875891116_n.jpg?oh=aa86a292f0841c122a9ebcd29d0c665a&oe=554151D1)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10896995_766018100141368_2335526749594648505_n.jpg?oh=6ba5fa1bb6b3f5bfc65e2c2039b7e411&oe=552A79A1&__gda__=1429217917_40147e1fff053907cdda980c6012f7b3)

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1450877_766018143474697_4737650320140978465_n.jpg?oh=bf3aeaa5adfcfb83c869c6387fb52821&oe=5542B0D5)

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 ;)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 01:47:38 pm
From Gilly via FB:

All ready. I'm sure there is still a spec of dirt here and there for David (Reeve)  to polish off so that it does not bother him.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zetman on January 02, 2015, 03:11:04 pm
http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/ (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2015, 04:43:59 pm

Some pics from Princess Laia's testing........


I see that Go Pro she was given at the airport mounted on the front fairing - WTF? Not going last there  ;D
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 02, 2015, 06:51:44 pm
 :ricky:

OOOOH FNOK!!! I are so excited  :blob9: Just 2 more days..



So here is a little computilization I did with regards to the different nationalities racing in the 2015 DAKAR..


Top place goes to the Frenchies with 25 contestants


(1) FRA - 25
(2) ARG - 19
(3) NLD - 17
(4) ESP - 16
(5) CHI -10
      ITA - 10
(6) CZE - 5
      POL - 5
(7) PRT - 4
     AUS - 4
     SWE - 4
     PER - 4
     TUR - 4
(8) ZAF - 3
     COL - 3
(9)GBR - 2
     SVK -2
     BOL - 2
     ROU - 2
     URY - 2
     MNG - 2
     USA - 2
(10) BRA - 1
       AUT - 1
       SVN - 1
       EST - 1
       SER - 1
       HUN - 1
       MEX - 1
       COG - 1
       NZL - 1
       ZAM - 1
       BEL - 1
       CHE - 1
       FIN - 1
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 02, 2015, 07:05:44 pm
OH yes, we can add another African to the list.

Franck Verhoestraete, #88, from the Congo.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Welsh on January 02, 2015, 07:09:31 pm
The fact that the whole of GBR and USA only manages 2 entries each, (a father and son entry from GBR) is a WTF for me... :peepwall:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: gser on January 02, 2015, 07:30:35 pm
 They do not understand the French ?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2015, 07:44:44 pm
They do not understand the French ?

And pray tell who does?  ::)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Herklaas on January 02, 2015, 08:09:52 pm
They do not understand the French ?

And pray tell who does?  ::)

 :sip: You want to ask me that question? I had a French son in law (God forbid) Well, we sent him back to France. Does that explain something to you :3some:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 09:28:03 pm
Some brilliant news from Guillaume:

Just past the ASO administrative checks and technical scruteneering

Why this is so brilliant is because of what just happened to get him there. Some of you may have noticed that Alexander hasn't been writing much in the past two or three days? The reason, in a cryptic email:

Alexander: Hey guys.
Its been crazy here. Been doing my best to help Malle Moto guys Albert H and Guillaume M get through scrutineering. Only got back to hotel 23:50 last night. Now we need to go find a boat shop for flares! Try doing that in Spanish. Amageza scrutineering is a joke!


SteveD: Don't worry about us, get those guys to the fucking start on time!!!!!!

Well I guess he did....  :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Would I? on January 02, 2015, 09:28:56 pm
They do not understand the French ?

And pray tell who does?  ::)

 :sip: You want to ask me that question? I had a French son in law (God forbid) Well, we sent him back to France. Does that explain something to you :3some:


 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 09:35:45 pm
The Pavey Family

PREPARATIONS COMPLETE IN BUENOS AIRES


With the 2015 Dakar start just two days away Team SP FiFTYONE has been working hard in Buenos Aires on their bikes, as well as preparing themselves for the start of the rally on January 4th.

Ahead of the scrutineering in Buenos Aires riders Simon and Llewelyn are happy with how preparations have gone, their state of mind ahead of the rally and what it will mean to arrive on the start podium together. In doing so they will make history as the first father and son to compete in the Dakar Rally on motorcycles.

Simon
We’ve had a pretty crazy preparation schedule since finding out Llewelyn had an entry. Since arriving here in Buenos Aires you’d think everything would be relaxed but up until now we’ve been running around changing mousses, wheel bearings and basically crossing all the Ts. Even though it has been pretty crazy we are relaxed now and can’t wait to start.

It’s quite an incredible feeling to be here doing all this pre-race preparation with my son, truly amazing. We have consecutive numbers so it will be fantastic to ride off the first podium together.

You always hope with the Dakar you don’t have too many “stories” to tell because they usually mean things aren’t going so well! And then, in two weeks time, to ride over the finish podium together would be the perfect dream. But hey, we know with the Dakar that so much can happen every day. You have to just go to the start every morning and hope that your bike starts and take every day from there!

Llel
It’s been three years really for me to get here but now we are finally here I’m just excited to ride my bike. It’s a good feeling. I was really nervous for a long time after we had the entry confirmed and it was a strange feeling. But as the time’s got closer we’ve been working a lot and training a lot, I’ve put a lot of effort into trying to be as fit as I can. I haven’t really done any work for two months!

My dad and I have a fairly unique relationship, it’s like going on a really big adventure with your best mate which is really cool. It’s always cool to do things with people you get on really well with and to be here about to start the Dakar together is really exciting.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 09:38:24 pm
This is Dimitri, the developer behind the Aurora rally book.
Cool guy. He has a couple of riders using his kit this year.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10906298_695997623848600_5490683126256377229_n.jpg?oh=d50a2cd8d44ede220af45da75795040a&oe=552BF856&__gda__=1429247840_46363293c20a08bb16a39e5bbd2426cb)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 09:40:20 pm
From ADV:
Factory Gas-Gas
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885056_1012926152055580_72416009921753768_n.jpg?oh=ebe9a40cb69f0b3f0b0faf091847a065&oe=5545E6F4)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 02, 2015, 09:41:27 pm
From ADV:
Factory Gas-Gas
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885056_1012926152055580_72416009921753768_n.jpg?oh=ebe9a40cb69f0b3f0b0faf091847a065&oe=5545E6F4)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/906654_10152976762952943_6509706944426714303_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Aquatic on January 03, 2015, 03:20:13 am
No. That is John Bouwknegt #101. Posing with his Aurora which he is about to take testing for 2 weeks.
He the only Kiwi entrant, from Western Australia :D

This is Dimitri, the developer behind the Aurora rally book.
Cool guy. He has a couple of riders using his kit this year.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10906298_695997623848600_5490683126256377229_n.jpg?oh=d50a2cd8d44ede220af45da75795040a&oe=552BF856&__gda__=1429247840_46363293c20a08bb16a39e5bbd2426cb)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 06:31:30 am
From Wessel via FB:
After a full day of running around we made it!! We passed all admin checks 32 for me and the bike and Nico and Tulie with the Ford F-250 also.!!! then the Tecnical side was very long for me.. I had to go to town to get some saftety flares and other safety equipment before I could get my final stamp.! then some riding, over poduim and then to park the bike in a secured park... only to do the riding for a few km tomorrow in the streets and the official poduim at around 14:30 and then in about 36 hour Dakar 2015 starts...
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 06:34:03 am
Marc Coma dishes advice to first time participants at the rider's meeting:

http://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news...upils/?v=2&s=1 (http://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news...upils/?v=2&s=1)

“This is the toughest race in the world, but also the one with the most safety measures”.

“Don't focus on your time during the first days, but ride at your own pace and look to find your place in the standings”

“When your Sentinel warns you, don't hesitate to move aside and raise your hand when the bikes are sharing the routes with cars”

“Make sure you use your time sensibly when you arrive at the bivouac: eat, take a shower and prepare the road-book for the next day.

Don't waste time and especially your energy with Facebook and phone calls: the time and energy you save will be valuable during the second week”

“If you finish late or very late, your sole priority has to be the road-book, to make sure you are aware of the next stage's dangers”

“In general, don't drink too much at once, but drink often. If you start feeling thirsty, then it's too late”.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: gser on January 03, 2015, 06:51:58 am

 Geluk #158, #143 , ens.
 Today is , "Gentlemen, start your engines"
 Yippee, although its only a show in town.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 06:55:08 am
Taken from ADV:
KTM's iritrack unit is now outside of the tower. It was originaly designed to be housed inside the tower. That may be the problem that was faced with ASO before the start of scrutineering and KTM released a press release regarding the tower modification.

I wonder what the issue is? There was discussion last year about access to the Iritrack buttons with the unit inside the tower.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 11:12:39 am
Some photos from KTM FB page:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10360606_10152721793490000_6396952607704766408_n.jpg?oh=d12ede7d168f47339af30dff4dd058e1&oe=55321823&__gda__=1429750902_65b634e35cef7f02313dae581b1d7585)
Note the Iritrack now mounted outside the tower.
Also interesting that Mr Coma is using dual RNS tripmeters, not ICOs as he used in the past.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10891995_10152721793500000_7262661173275137519_n.jpg?oh=9acbb6ddb5abe335cb90b97b5ff41210&oe=552DC406&__gda__=1429543763_8cca70e71ca607c774243e3a1819237d)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885565_10152721793070000_7689314290079660570_n.jpg?oh=ac0ec9bc5b6da0c2bb1fae10e2580057&oe=552DF7CC)

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10897895_10152721793990000_1257856486085290794_n.jpg?oh=90dced06ebdd41493639db479c67b182&oe=55364B5B)
Jordi Viladoms

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10898068_10152721794395000_1654547342934803853_n.jpg?oh=ec8efa1b8ba095999be571dd1eeff53f&oe=552A815E&__gda__=1428615496_c11e0bbd764d342c5877ee31ab83fe79)
Ruben Faria

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906578_10152721794170000_604172972282016762_n.jpg?oh=1ec6fbe23684b09c27047ea39fe3ea44&oe=5525F328&__gda__=1429570882_e8a34461885a4eb8afe27ede5588701b)
Sam Sutherland

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885292_10152721794055000_4256066415733597198_n.jpg?oh=fadd22fce98c5cb75be7402764193d15&oe=552C6AB1)
I thought FIM required that one of the rear lights be on all the time?

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Riaan  :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10690322_10152721794100000_5806478599274582521_n.jpg?oh=54b4245b0566c2c142ede6f8ae32dae3&oe=553C9D98)
Toby Price - some guys on ADVrider are predicting he will do really well

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10898279_10152721794285000_7055123995203122023_n.jpg?oh=1f61d71911ff335135e714eb52aae8b3&oe=552F5E70)
Jakub 'Kuba' Przygonski

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885610_10152721793505000_1177748094913354032_n.jpg?oh=6e25e320efc77a5133d8f5af72d36345&oe=5531CDED)
I wonder how they mounted the Iritrack? Not a lot of mounting holes there.... The carbon tower is :love10:

I have another question for the real riders - That handguard extension is really high. Is there a danger of hurting your hand in an over-the-bars? Two mates of mine have broken hands like that before. DO you think the extension is fairly fragile, designed to break before the hands get damaged?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 11:14:00 am
 Guillaume with his Malle Moto mobile home
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 11:18:23 am
From Gilly via FB:

Sorry all for lack of comms, all of us had no air time, wifi was playing up plus a pretty long day from 9 am until 8 pm. David was being filmed by Al Jazeera TV channel, plus documentation, which took a few hours, then technical verification which was another couple of hours. We had assistance crew briefing in the evening too. Today David has official photo then riders briefing followed by ceremonial parade then gets his road book to do for Sunday's stage to Carlos Paz.....

A few nights ago Al Jazeera (DSTV 406) messaged us on this FB page. The had picked up on David's story and wanted to interview him. Arrangements were then made for the crews to meet up and this resulted in a 2 hour interview. Here is David in the Hot seat.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 03, 2015, 11:45:27 am
Steve, the issue with the iritrack is that the regulations require the box to be well protected behind the fairing.

Thats also a good observation re the handguards - I dont believe the top guys ever crash like that ;D :dontknow:



*************************++


Check these Dutch guys out in their buggies.

https://www.youtube.com/v/9F0I1ZGbmJI

The Two nut cases are always a laugh a minute and great fun to follow. They somehow keep great humour through imposible hardships. Really fantastic to see the brothers racing together this time.



Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 12:15:07 pm
From email newsletter:

With the 2015 Dakar Rally just one day away Team SP FiFTYONE is relaxed and looking forward to the exciting challenge ahead.
 
Today, Saturday, sees the team take to the ceremonial start podium in front of impressive crowds as the event and riders are officially introduced to thousands of Buenos Airians.
 
Under no illusion that this year’s event will be an easy one, both team riders Simon and Llewelyn have studied the daily routes hard to prepare themselves. The event kicks off, tomorrow, Sunday January 4th, with a mammoth stage one starting in Buenos Aires and covering just shy of 650 kilometres, 175 of which is special test, to Villa Carlos Paz.
 
Simon’s huge experience at the Dakar, in both Africa and South America, tell him this year’s event will be as tough as any. With no ‘easing’ their way into the rally, the stages are long and hard from day one and he’s particularly looking at the difficult high altitude crossings of the Andes mountains, which promise to be both spectacular riding yet physically demanding.
 
For Llewelyn, despite the Dakar being a major part of his life for so many years through his father, his first attack on the legendary event is all about concentrating, conserving and making the finish. With tremendous riding experience for his young age and despite some reservations about his own nerves, Llel can’t wait for the race to start.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 03, 2015, 12:15:13 pm
Some photos from KTM FB page:

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885610_10152721793505000_1177748094913354032_n.jpg?oh=6e25e320efc77a5133d8f5af72d36345&oe=5531CDED)
I wonder how they mounted the Iritrack? Not a lot of mounting holes there.... The carbon tower is :love10:

I have another question for the real riders - That handguard extension is really high. Is there a danger of hurting your hand in an over-the-bars? Two mates of mine have broken hands like that before. DO you think the extension is fairly fragile, designed to break before the hands get damaged?


Certainly this is the sentiment re hand guards with the enduro guys these days … I can believe though that they give much better chill factor protection where these guys go  ::)  My other suspicion is that it gives significant frontal advertising space for Red Bull - note all the sponsored bikes sport them - and that has weight. They may well be designed as break-free elements.

I also note many of the guys using XTrig handlebar damping clamps.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: Cracker on January 03, 2015, 02:10:51 pm
What do you reckon's in the Red Bull cans that they need to be seen to be drinking?

Red Bull? Water? Beer? Monster? Nothing? ............................

That handguard looks as if it'll break off easy while carrying out the over-the-bars manoeuvre - a manoeuvre practised by many but perfected by none   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BiG DoM on January 03, 2015, 02:38:02 pm
Hmm  :biggrin: yeah they also need to be seen to be drinking it … or at least holding an opened can. Doubt that they would quaff that shyte at this juncture  ::)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 03, 2015, 03:32:36 pm
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps8b539545.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps8b539545.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 03, 2015, 04:12:51 pm
What time edzackery does the DAKAR start tomorrow, ZAF time ??
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: zacapa on January 03, 2015, 04:48:01 pm
For some entertainment here is the Robby Gordon angle of all things Dakar 2015 in a 46 minute Youtube clip. Interesting stuff...

https://www.youtube.com/v/YQWiIFVPBdU
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: StuartC on January 03, 2015, 06:59:27 pm
I was never a Gordon fan but seeing how he does it all is fantastic.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 09:38:58 pm
Interesting view on the Iritrack mounting

Quote from: Capo Sakke;25841206
From: Vladimir Kusnier mechanic of Chavo

Talked to a friend from Astrium about that Iritrack mount on 2015 yesterday. Quite interesting to hear another side of the story.
Seems like there hasn't been a problem with accessing the buttons, but he claimed that during Oil Lybia every single factory rider had to change for a new unit every evening. There are literally no silentblocks damping inside the cf mount and the vibrations are killing the blue box within one stage. He said they had similar problem on other bikes where the people tried to create mount by sliding it sideway into the alu tower. During Oil Lybia KTM payed for the damages but here it's Astrium's responsibility and they don't even have enough units for everyday change on 35 new 2015s out there.
In his words : 4 factory riders is possible to maintain but not all the lot that showed up this year with that system.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 09:42:17 pm
The ceremonial start is currently under way. Guillaume Martens on his way to the podium.
He posted this on FB earlier:
"Last breakfast together in the hotel before "The Race". From now on no internet and no telephone for 2 weeks. Cristiano Barni will post 2-3 pictures a day here in FaceBook.
Just me, my bike, sleeping bag, some spares in a box and a lot of kilometers in front of me
Will meet my new love in 2 weeks time again"
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
From Darryl via FB:

Riaans new danger stamp is pretty funny ..... The first road books are out.
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 09:47:58 pm
We havn't seen or heard much from Brian yet.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 09:56:18 pm
Via twitter:
Brian on his way to the start podium.
It must feel kinda great
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 03, 2015, 10:07:25 pm
The princess on the podium.
I see she also has the dual RNS switch on the left bar, I wonder what the little crib notes inside the left handguard are?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: KTM Jagermeister on January 03, 2015, 11:08:23 pm
Why did we not see anything on TV today?
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: StuartC on January 04, 2015, 12:46:18 am
did you miss it?  ,, man it was fantastic
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2015, 01:46:21 am
did you miss it?  ,, man it was fantastic

Post the link bru!  :deal:
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2015, 01:48:06 am
From Dakar Rally FB (https://www.facebook.com/dakar/photos/a.104255372967112.6752.104027932989856/852877738104868/?type=1&theater)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10805609_852877738104868_1946475335322205076_n.jpg?oh=839897126c83a9cf71058b55274ab690&oe=554419FC&__gda__=1428680004_809c49e881d3a990301ec2764aab81e6)

"The 2014 winner in the bike category is now on scene... Say welcome to Marc Coma in the commentaries..."
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 08:03:48 am
Some photos from the podium yesterday.
The first bikes leave 10h15 local time.

(From http://gaps.dakar.com/2015/dakar/stage-01/aso/ukie.php (http://gaps.dakar.com/2015/dakar/stage-01/aso/ukie.php) )

Special           Cars           Bikes           Quads   Trucks
Start   07:42   05:15   05:15    05:15       10:29
Connection            144km   144km   144km   144km
Special stage   170km   175km   175km   175km


Let the games begin
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Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 08:38:37 am
Hey SteveD, correct, start of liaison(144km) is @ 10:15 local time here, but the start of SS1 is @ 12:50 our time.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 08:46:17 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc45bed6c.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc45bed6c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:19:05 am
Brian via twitter:
Start of liason 6:48. Start of special at 9:23. 170km special and 838km total. Fast easy special we are right at the back. Hannes is 4 min behind me.

from Darryl:
First roadbooks being loaded for the start of Dakar


---- that was a few hours ago, because the first riders just left on the liaison...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:35:23 am
An intro for the chaos that is about to follow
(taken from ADVforum, http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034277 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034277))

Quote
How to drink from the fire hose and enjoy the taste.

The important things to know up front are the basics or Dakar rule applications. There are two sets of rules, French and English and the two may or may not be the same depending on the section.

It's also important to know that this is the ASO and the ASO may or may not apply those rules in any sort of logical or consistent manner. The good part is that the inconsistency tends to even itself out as the rally grinds on from stage to stage. That is to say in most general cases, what is considered by the fans to be an unfair ruling against a rider on day 2 may be repaid in the form of a ruling against his main rival in a later stage.

In the end of the rally, things tend to even themselves out and no real preferential treatment is afforded to anyone, even the French.

The stage:
Liaison:
Each stage can be broken up into several pieces, 'Liaison', 'connection', 'road section', 'transit section' are all the same thing. They all refer to a section of the total stage that is not timed, but is basically how the riders get from the bivouac to the start of the timed section. Liaison distances can be anywhere from zero to several hundred kilometers and can be before, after, or at both ends of the timed stage.

Depending loosely on finish placings the day before, riders are assessed a start time. Riders starting 1 through 10 are sent off in two minute intervals, starters 11 through 20 in one minute intervals, 20 on back in 30" intervals. Every now and then they'll stage mass starts of 10 or 20 riders at a time, but is may only happen a stage or two each year if at all.

Timed section:
This is where you get your boogie on. If you are in the top 30, you are dropping the hammer for a good placement. If you are farther back, you are most likely looking to survive to ride the next stage. It's important to know the motivations for participating. For the top 5 or 6, they are in for a win, nothing less is acceptable. For the rest of the top 30, they are hoping for a good placement in order to attract sponsors to have a go next year, maybe to gain some exposure or get noticed by a factory or top team, or they simply want a good showing to kick off a career in rallying.

The rest of the field consists of riders for which the finish is the win they desire. Whether it be a dream fulfilled, an adventure undertaken, or simply someone with more dollars than sense, these riders will never battle with the likes of Despres or Coma, but they will battle even more fierce opponents like sand, dunes, time, darkness, and their own will and stamina to carry on.

There are a few anomolies to these unwritten rules. Riders like Simon Pavey, Annie Seel, Mick Extance, Tina Mieir, Silvia Ginnetti, and Kemal Merkit. Riders who come back year after year, hover in the 50's to 60's as far as time and placement and gradually move up towards the end more out of attrition than outright speed. They have flashes of brilliance now and then, but they know they will not win a stage or even end up on the podium. For them and riders like them, the motivation is intensely personal and seldom discussed.

Every now and then a timed stage will include a neutralisation. A neutralization is usually an untimed section in the middle of a timed stage where riders need to get from one area to another. Usually this is when there is no feasible racing route through a particularly long distance. If it's a short go like through a village in Africa, the ASO will impose and closely monitor a speed limit. If it's long, they'll simply throw in a neutralisation section.

What we end up with is two timed sections and the total time of the stage becomes an aggregate of the two sections. Think of it like two stages in a single day with the times added together.

The end of a timed section may be right at the bivouac or there may be another liaison from the end of the timed stage to the bivouac.

Timed sections are broken into many segments denoted by waypoints. As a rider approaches a waypoint, once they get within a defined perimeter, the GPS comes to life, and an arrow points the way to the waypoint. When the rider gets to within a closer set distance from the waypoint, it registers, his time is recorded and he or she takes off in search of the next waypoint (WP). Interspersed through the stage are also Checkpoints. These are spots where (as far as I know) time is manually recorded by an ASO official and the riders card is marked. CP's may or may not match up with a WP, but they usually do.

I won't get too deep into the rules about delays, late starters, etc... as all that exists in the rules pdf here, but suffice to say, the ASO has penalties for everything and as I said above, the assessment of those penalties may or may not make sense and may or may not show on the timing lists.

Typically stage maps from the Dakar.com main page showing CP's.
These are often representative only... and NOT acurate as to the actual route as such...

(http://doyle.smugmug.com/Other/Dakar-Timing-101/Stage-7-CP/1150091338_B9umg-O.jpg)

A typical stage map from Dakar.com showing WP's.
(http://doyle.smugmug.com/Other/Dakar-Timing-101/Stage-7-WP/1150091351_qtVGS-O.jpg)

From the same page, this is the stage profile of the WP's. I actually like this better than the stage map as it shows the km's. One note of caution, the ASO is seemingly intentionally vague on their km markings and whether they actually line up with WP's or just denote the end of a particular type of surface, ie. the transition from gravel to dunes, etc...
(http://doyle.smugmug.com/Other/Dakar-Timing-101/Stage-7-Profile/1150091332_3yMkJ-O.jpg)


The iPhone App map is actually the best and more like the old Dakar.com it clearlt shows the CP's and a nice dashed line to the km marking. Notice for instance, CP4. Had the line not been there, it would look like CP4 lines up with km609 when in fact it is listed at km593 a full 14km's earlier. When expecting a rider to come in, 14km's in the dunes can be quite a lot of time.
]img\http://doyle.smugmug.com/Other/Dakar-Timing-101/Stage-7-App-Profile/1150091321_eSWXj-O.jpg]/img]



Hope fully that explains the basic mechanics of the stage and the movement of riders from bivouac to bivouac each day.

Timing:
First of all, if you want to track times like the best of them, yuou have to know your lists inside and out. Don't underestimate the difficulty of trying to figure out time splits while the pressure builds about posting it first as to not repeat, or 205, already posted information. PackMule has this down pat and is faster than anyone. Sure the time sheets give the split times form the stage leader, but what if you want to see how much time 5th place Ze Helio gained on 3rd place Chaleco from waypoint 4 to waypoint 5? This is where list knowledge comes in.

Waypoint times show up in the live tracking "follow your favorites" section of the dakar.com site and checkpoint times show up in the live tracking for the day here.

As you learn to use both of these, you'll understand how they can compliment each other.

For 2011, the ASO has drastically revamped their site and really took the wind out of the timing sails. One crucial element now gone is the physical time of day that a rider posted a WP or a CP. This was immensely helpful in tracking riders that have been lost, broke down, crashed, or simply slowed down. Now we only get the physical time of day for the start of each rider.

The four most important things to remember are this:
1) ASO timing is notoriously spotty. Not the times themselves per se, but when and if they show up. Because a rider has not posted a WP time does not mean the worst. The iritrack may not be working, the ASO official may have gone for coffee, the rider may have missed the waypoint.

2) Always keep in mind the start intervals of the riders. Cyril Despres may be leading Marc Coma by 10" from WP to WP, but when Cyril posts his time at a WP and Marc's time doesn't show up 10" later, many people panic that Coma fell or slowed up, or whatever. Keep in mind that Coma may have started physically on the stage 10 minutes after Despres. Understand that Coma's time may not show up until the 10'10" have passed. Once you get that, you'll learn when to expect a rider through a WP or a CP. Packmule and Flood are the masters of this and can usually pinpoint to a few seconds when a rider's time should be.

The live WP to WP timing is usually referred to as the iritrack. The CP to CP timing is usually referred to as the Posis list after the French name for it. When you really get skilled, you can start venturing into the French version of dakar.com because for the most part, the times are updated a little faster there. I'm speaking out of class here and giving up secrets bourne out of years of mad following, comparing notes/posts, and even sometimes having our own little races as to who can mine the times and post the results first. Many times followers get stunned when Packmule posts that Coma bested Despres in the last section to pull the stage win when no one else can even see the final times displayed. Packmule's French site list skilz are strong.

3) Lastly and I suppose equally important is to know that the ASO seemingly gets lazier and lazier about updating times as the day goes on. The fast guys have their times refreshed up to the lists pretty quickly, but if you are following a guy who is languishing in 134th place and is still out on the stage 6 hours after the first guys are in, good luck on keeping track. A perfect example was Luis Belaustegui and Mike Stanfield from Stage 5. Neither one showed on the final finish times, but when I checked the start list for Stage 6 late the night of Stage 5, low and behold, there they were. What this means is that the ASO crew packed it up. The times will ultimately get recorded within the ASO, but they may never show on the list. If they are on the next days start list, they made it in.

4) Withdrawals and the withdrawal list. Every other list is secondary to the withdrawal list and subject to change. In my experience, one that never does is the withdrawal list. If your rider ends up there but it's still a mystery where they are, they are out. I have never seen a rider make the list but still somehow continue on. I am not sure why the ASO is so spot on with withdrawals and spotty on everything else, but that's how it is.

It probably is used as their catering list from bivouac to bivouac to prove to the catering crew how much food they should prepare

DSS, WP, CP, ASS, etc...
DSS - Starting point of the timed stage (French abbreviation of Departe Special Stage)
WP - Waypoint (electronically recorded time stamp)
CP - Checkpoint (manually recorded time stamp)
ASS - Not the nice Chilean girl screaming "Chaleco, Chaleco, Chaleco", but the finish of the timed stage. (French abbreviation for Arrive Special Stage)

As I mentioned, the various lists will give you just about all you need to track the riders. Don't be afraid to open up some tabs or some separate browser windows and have your various time lists up on each ready to toggle and refresh at a moments notice. The ASO's fancy new auto refresh will have you spitting nails by the fifth time you are copying a time from 14th place at WP5 and it refreshes back to the start times of the cars before you can select copy but it is what it is.

What is "F5" - many are unsure of this and what it means. For us geeks that have been hovering over time sheets for the past few years, F5 became a joke about how often we are refreshing the browsers. For most PC based computers, the F5 key refreshes the browser just like the refresh icon does, but since many are typing it saves time to hit F5 over grabbing the mouse and clicking refresh. Nothing more complicated than that.
Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2015, 10:39:45 am
For good tracking use this website:  http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http:// http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/) :thumleft:

Please donate a little something if you can
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:52:40 am
The day's stage:

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/M/CARTE.png)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/M/PROFIL_US.gif)

The average speed on the liaison is interesting - for 144km they have 2h25min, with 10 minutes rest time. That's only around 60km/h average. I guess lots of provision for weaving through crowds?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 10:56:53 am
For good tracking use this website: http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http:// [url=http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/)] http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/)[/url] :thumleft:

Please donate a little something if you can


 :thumleft:

mischa does such a good job, with multiple ways to check up on the positions and standings of the riders.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:59:22 am
mischa does such a good job, with multiple ways to check up on the positions and standings of the riders.

Couldn't do without it, donation made
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2015, 11:17:23 am
Thread has been stickied!

Title: Re: The DAKAR 2015 thread - No it's not too early!
Post by: lpj on January 04, 2015, 11:42:03 am
For good tracking use this website:  http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http:// http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/) :thumleft:

Please donate a little something if you can

Yup, definitely best for real time info.
Donated.

Can't friggin' wait for the start now - 1 hr to go...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 11:48:31 am
For those that have DSTV here are the times for the highlights tonight on Supersport

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc342bd9b.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc342bd9b.jpg.html)

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps16566899.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps16566899.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 11:53:44 am
For good tracking use this website: http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http:// [url=http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/)] http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/ (http://monitor.trackingdakar.nl/)[/url] :thumleft:

Please donate a little something if you can

Yup, definitely best for real time info.
Donated.

Can't friggin' wait for the start now - 1 hr to go...


So, BB,SD,ipj and myself have donated, that means Mischa now has 20€, enough for a cup of coffee and a croissant.  :pot: come on guys, help feed the starving europeans.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 12:21:52 pm
I wonder what the riders feel like right now. I'm a terrible rider, so I'll never find out, but when I was young, stupid, fit and had hair I used to ride endurance races on horseback. The start of a multi-day event was an adrenalin rush like no other, mixed with blood-curdling fear, and a lot of mind games (Did I train enough, or too little? Do I have everything I need? I need to P - again!)

After my little Arab retired I ran Comrades to find out what it was like for him near the end of a marathon. The start of Comrades felt surprisingly similar to the start of of an endurance. Same emotions, maybe a bit more butterflies.
Once I got going, the nerves would settle down almost immediately. It would take literally around 500m for all of the rubbish to disappear out of my head, to be replaced with an absolute resolve to get to the finish.

Interestingly, the emotions at the finish were very different. On horseback, the finish was very emotional, a relief that it was over and we have actually made it. Comrades was also emotional, but quite lonely. Although I was among thousands of people (I took the whole 12 hours!), the achievement was more a personal one than a shared one.
It was interesting.

During a qualifying marathon, I asked a Comrades legend what it felt like to finish. Her answer was quite simple - I can describe it, but it won't do it justice. You have to feel it for yourself.

I imaging both the start and the finish of Dakar are the same - descriptions just won't do it justice.

Good luck to all of the competitors. You are champions to have made it to the start.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 12:29:47 pm
From Joan Barreda FB @12h05 our time:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Berty77 on January 04, 2015, 12:36:47 pm
Sub....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Scooterbike on January 04, 2015, 12:38:56 pm
sub
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 12:40:59 pm
Special start times:
001   COMA (ESP)   KTM   12:50:00
020   VAN NIEKERK (ZAF)   KTM   13:17:00
103   REEVE (ZMB)   KTM   13:45:30
125   HINTENAUS (ZAF)   KTM   13:50:30
143   BOSMAN (ZAF)   KTM   13:54:30
275   BARAGWANATH (ZAF)   YAMAHA   14:23:00
286   SAAIJMAN (ZAF)   YAMAHA   14:27:00   

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 12:41:35 pm
American Tony Gera wasn't cleared to take part in the 37th Dakar, which means there'll be 161 riders starting the rally in Buenos Aires. They'll be followed by 45 quads, 137 cars and 63 trucks.


Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 12:44:51 pm
This year's programme features four "marathon" stages in which competitors will be left to fend entirely for themselves. Cars and trucks hadn't faced such a scenario since 2005. Another change is that motorcycles and quads will have their rest day on a different day from the cars and trucks'.

I think that means two each, for bikes/quads and trucks/cars
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 12:49:42 pm
We are racing.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: 4 Kays on January 04, 2015, 12:53:18 pm
Can't wait. Pity nothing live on DSTV  :patch:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: zetman on January 04, 2015, 12:54:33 pm
 :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:

Gooi mielies die eerste SS race is aan die gang

Steve sal jy Adv rider post hier kan copy asb?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 12:56:03 pm
This one?

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034277 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034277)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: zetman on January 04, 2015, 12:57:31 pm
 ;D Dankewell Hoot hoot
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:03:01 pm
First WP is at 15km
http://dakar.visser.it/index.php?page=stage (http://dakar.visser.it/index.php?page=stage) is the best tracking app
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:03:58 pm
Bkiksem - Coma and Barreda through CP1
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:07:00 pm
From FB:
In liaison before start of SS
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:08:39 pm
Barreda made up 1:56 in 15 km   :eek7:
I think I'm talking kak, again!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:08:50 pm
Bareda only 4s behind marc, already putting down the hammer
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:11:18 pm
Helder only 1sec behind Marc, @ CP1
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:12:20 pm
Oooh, Sam Sutherland fastest by 17 seconds
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:13:39 pm
Wow, 17 sec  :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:15:37 pm
Riaan will be off any second now. Go boy!!!!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:20:50 pm
Olivier Pain is late getting to WP1  :eek7:
And he's the guy I reckon will win  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:22:32 pm
From twitter, via ADV:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6gFeYXIYAI2zl7.jpg:large)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2015, 01:24:00 pm
Olivier Pain is late getting to WP1  :eek7:
And he's the guy I reckon will win  :biggrin:

Its only the first Cp Steve...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:25:43 pm
Olivier Pain is late getting to WP1  :eek7:
And he's the guy I reckon will win  :biggrin:

There he is.
Those peechas of David at the side of the road made me nervous  :dousing:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:26:50 pm
Riaan due at CP1 soon.....
Coma thru CP2  ;)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:32:50 pm
Riaan through WP1, 30sec off the pace
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: StuartC on January 04, 2015, 01:36:49 pm
1st yami 13th,,, eish
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:37:57 pm
Sam in @ CP2, 1:01 faster than coma!!!!!

That boytjie is flying
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 01:38:22 pm
Riaan through WP1, 30sec off the pace

 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
(now I have to go and get on an aeroplane - no internet for HOURS!  :eek7:)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2015, 01:45:04 pm
Olivier Pain is late getting to WP1  :eek7:
And he's the guy I reckon will win  :biggrin:

There he is.
Those peechas of David at the side of the road made me nervous  :dousing:

With that Vrystaat nomerplaat I would also be nervous  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:47:41 pm
Laia through CP1 36sec off the pace
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:49:22 pm
Olivier Pain is late getting to WP1  :eek7:
And he's the guy I reckon will win  :biggrin:

There he is.
Those peechas of David at the side of the road made me nervous  :dousing:

With that Vrystaat nomerplaat I would also be nervous  :biggrin:


Nee man, 'n boer maak 'n plan, ne'
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 04, 2015, 01:51:17 pm
For those that missed the link to live stream.... :thumleft:

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10468276/boliviatv (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/10468276/boliviatv)

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Berty77 on January 04, 2015, 01:53:37 pm
So when is Stage 1 HL on SuperSport?? I dont have DSTV but will maak n plan to go visit someone random to check it out, even in a bar somewhere. I'll be in Uilkraal from tomorow so will have to travel to Gansbaai every night to watch, other than that Ill be following it right here on WD  :deal:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: jossvw on January 04, 2015, 01:54:54 pm
sub
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 01:56:05 pm
Riaan is through CP2 @ 2m25s off the pace
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 04, 2015, 01:57:24 pm
So when is Stage 1 HL on SuperSport?? I dont have DSTV but will maak n plan to go visit someone random to check it out, even in a bar somewhere. I'll be in Uilkraal from tomorow so will have to travel to Gansbaai every night to watch, other than that Ill be following it right here on WD  :deal:
22:30 - 23:00 on SS6
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:00:27 pm
Berty77

should be on SS6 and SS csn @ 22:30 to 23:00
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:00:58 pm
oops, Kawaki beat me to it
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: StuartC on January 04, 2015, 02:01:18 pm
Riaan will take it easy for the first few day's
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:03:58 pm
Bang Bang and Marc through CP3, BB 7sec ahead
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 04, 2015, 02:05:09 pm
Calm and steady...the way to go... :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:06:22 pm
Sunderland through CP3 in the lead again by 47sec
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 02:16:22 pm
David Reeve is through CP1 at 02:29 behind the leader (pos 80), so at least he is going!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:17:16 pm
Goncalves up to 2nd place at CP3/WP4, just 45sec off Sunderland
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 04, 2015, 02:19:10 pm
David Reeve is through CP1 at 02:29 behind the leader (pos 80), so at least he is going!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:


Poor guy, stress on day1 not good...gooi Mielies David  :laughing4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:19:55 pm
David Reeve is through CP1 at 02:29 behind the leader (pos 80), so at least he is going!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:




 :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 02:23:13 pm
Sam is 1:12 ahead on Coma at the end of the special! He was FLYING!!

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:27:30 pm
so far overall standings for day one looks like 1-Sam, 2- paulo 3-marc
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:33:33 pm
Paulo was also flying, only 5sec behind Sam
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 02:40:12 pm
It looks like Princess Laia is going faster than Riaan....  Daai chick KAN bike ry!!   :o :o

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:41:24 pm
Laia in @ WP4 , faster than Riaan by 29seconds

Sorry knopkop, jy was vinniger as ekke
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 02:47:10 pm
Riaan is in!

05:54 behind Sam

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:48:29 pm
Riaan is in!

05:54 behind Sam

 :thumleft: :thumleft:


 :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 02:53:09 pm
LAIA is in

4m46 behind Sam
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 02:58:46 pm
LAIA is in

4m46 behind Sam
So Riaan was beaten by a GIRL! No shame in that, the girl can ride. Good steady ride by Riaan, no need for heroics now.
BTW has Barreda crashed yet?  :pot:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 03:01:28 pm
Both David and Albert are climbing up the board
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Skipskop on January 04, 2015, 03:01:39 pm
.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 03:01:52 pm
From ADV
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: StuartC on January 04, 2015, 03:08:04 pm
Brian 10th Hannes 19th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 03:12:09 pm
That last picture brings back memories of Amageza....
"Has anybody got internet?"
"$%&#all!"
"OK, cell signal?"
"I gad, I swear, but there's no throughput"
"$%&@#$%%^!"
"Who's the cell techi in Kakamas?"
"You're joking, right?"
 :dousing:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Welsh on January 04, 2015, 03:15:20 pm
Riann should be proud, I would be coming in just after the Princess.... :peepwall: :peepwall:
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 04, 2015, 03:20:57 pm
Sub
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 03:22:58 pm
From DAKAR.COM
10:12 : Sam Sunderland: 'I'm a contender for the first day!'
'It's difficult to judge your strategy based on the first day because you still don't know who's pulled out all the stops. It's also important not to go all in, you've got to leave something for the other stages However, I think I had a good special and that's always a reason to be happy. The bike didn't miss a beat, it was very fast and I probably posted a good time. I'm a contender for the first day. I hope I'm also a contender at the end, but we've only covered 175 kilometres and there's still a long road before us.'
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 03:38:28 pm
DAVID REEVE IS IN 18m48s

So is ALBERT HINTENHAUS, 19m18s
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 04, 2015, 03:47:17 pm
Here we goooo! 
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 04, 2015, 03:53:09 pm
Waar kry julle info vir die dakar? Ek try bolivia tv maar da is baie mense wat goed praat wat ek niks van verstaan nie...

Makliker alli en knopkop se notes te lees... haha
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 03:55:03 pm
Helder Rodriguez' tyre at the end of the stage, and he still has to do the liaison to the bivouac.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps9c18a11f.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps9c18a11f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Jackol. on January 04, 2015, 03:58:54 pm
Helder Rodriguez' tyre at the end of the stage, and he still has to do the liaison to the bivouac.

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps9c18a11f.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps9c18a11f.jpg.html)
Ouch!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Welsh on January 04, 2015, 03:59:51 pm
Shall we switch traction control back on?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2015, 04:04:52 pm
That tyre has gooied knobs properly  :o :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Grolls on January 04, 2015, 04:19:03 pm
Is that mainly because of under-inflation ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2015, 04:20:07 pm
Compound + HP + heat  8)

… oh and the right wrist  :3some:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 04, 2015, 04:36:45 pm

 .. . . seen it at Amageza to
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 04:53:35 pm
11:33 Cars: Nani Roma in trouble!
A nightmarish start for the 2014 champion! He came to a stop after a few kilometres, a loooong while ago, and still isn't back on the move.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Welsh on January 04, 2015, 05:02:05 pm
11:33 Cars: Nani Roma in trouble!
A nightmarish start for the 2014 champion! He came to a stop after a few kilometres, a loooong while ago, and still isn't back on the move.

Ala Alfie in his Volvo, I hope not  8)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: markdiver on January 04, 2015, 05:02:52 pm
Sub  :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 05:06:50 pm
Not looking good for our quad guys!

Brian Baragwanath started in 25th place has moved down to 43rd

Willem Saaijman started in 33rd place, down to 41st place.

Both seemed to be doing well at WP2 and then both of them seemed to lose a lot of time between WP2 and 3, i wonder if Brian, who left first had some sort of problem and Willem stopped to help???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Runner on January 04, 2015, 05:31:37 pm
Not looking good for our quad guys!

Brian Baragwanath started in 25th place has moved down to 43rd

Willem Saaijman started in 33rd place, down to 41st place.

Both seemed to be doing well at WP2 and then both of them seemed to lose a lot of time between WP2 and 3, i wonder if Brian, who left first had some sort of problem and Willem stopped to help???

Hannes Saaijman, from EMD Racing in Centurion, where did they get Willem from? ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 05:36:36 pm
Wessel Bosman is in!!

1h02m04s behind Sam


ALL OUR BOYS ARE SAFELY IN

 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 04, 2015, 05:41:57 pm
Frans Vehoven showboating in grand style - you've got to have talent to get away with that in front of a million people! x adv
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 04, 2015, 05:59:35 pm

 Se hulle reg Runner!
 Mooi so ZAFFERS
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 07:03:19 pm
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps4ef6acd9.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps4ef6acd9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 07:04:59 pm
STAGE 1 WINNER SAM SUNDERLAND

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc434b3e8.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsc434b3e8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 07:07:49 pm
BRIAN BARAGWANATH

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps8b72ed50.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps8b72ed50.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Cracker on January 04, 2015, 07:21:59 pm
Im not a quad fan by any means but I really hope Brian does well - he's been so consistently fast in ZA for years, I wanna see him kick butt in the Dakar - even more so than our 2-wheeled gang.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Andy660 on January 04, 2015, 08:12:26 pm
Im not a quad fan by any means but I really hope Brian does well - he's been so consistently fast in ZA for years, I wanna see him kick butt in the Dakar - even more so than our 2-wheeled gang.
I agree 100% with you,
What a nice person to deal with .
He definitely has  got my support
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: StuartC on January 04, 2015, 08:15:05 pm
Both brian and Hannes are top draw guy's,,
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: CycleC on January 04, 2015, 08:46:22 pm
Brians motor has blown, got towed in by Hannes, eish so early in the race, i am sure they will replace the motor and take the penalty, thats racing
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: I&horse on January 04, 2015, 08:49:26 pm
sub sub sub!!!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Would I? on January 04, 2015, 09:03:05 pm
Brians motor has blown, got towed in by Hannes, eish so early in the race, i am sure they will replace the motor and take the penalty, thats racing

That's a tough blow on day 1 ........ >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 09:17:39 pm
Brians motor has blown, got towed in by Hannes, eish so early in the race, i am sure they will replace the motor and take the penalty, thats racing

Thanks for the update CycleC

Confirmed my suspicion that Hannes stopped and helped him.
Love that about the DAKAR,
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 09:23:08 pm
So it seems that Nani Roma is out.
Confirmed via twitter

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsf31b5caf.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsf31b5caf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 09:29:21 pm
GREAT SHOT OF SAM SUNDERLAND

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps01f08892.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps01f08892.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wolzak on January 04, 2015, 09:30:02 pm
sub :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 04, 2015, 09:32:48 pm
So it seems that Nani Roma is out.
Confirmed via twitter

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsf31b5caf.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsf31b5caf.jpg.html)
Best news ever. I still say he was not the true car winner last year. Carma is evil.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2015, 09:49:18 pm
or Karma for that matter as well   ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:02:48 pm
...he was not the true car winner last year.....
That bit I agree with. I am not a fan of team orders.
Mr Brian, you did NOT have permission to blow up your engine.  :thumleft: to Hannes for towing him in, holding thumbs they can get it all fixed for the start tomorrow.

The photo below I found amusing. The rider is sitting kinda skeef. Long liaison, hard seat.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: mox on January 04, 2015, 10:10:38 pm
May have been asked, what are the broadcast tables for DSTV ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:12:53 pm
Channel 206 22h30 tonight ie in 15 minutes

Laia just tweeted that she arrived at the bivvy. That's a l...o...n...g liaison.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 10:14:06 pm
Channel 206 22h30 tonight ie in 15 minutes

Laia just tweeted that she arrived at the bivvy. That's a l...o...n...g liaison.

Hehehehe, I bet there is a loooong line of guys willing to massage some monkey butt....   :biggrin: :biggrin:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 04, 2015, 10:14:36 pm
Hey guys... Really interesting getting all the updates on this thread, its going to be my Dakar fix for this year.

No disrespect, but it sucks being this side of the Dakar!!!

Motivation enough to make sure 2016 happens!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 04, 2015, 10:17:08 pm
Roma still seems to be in. Being towed by his assistance truck.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Skipskop on January 04, 2015, 10:17:17 pm
Does anybody know what channel and time we will see the highlights pls ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2015, 10:19:32 pm
Hey guys... Really interesting getting all the updates on this thread, its going to be my Dakar fix for this year.

No disrespect, but it sucks being this side of the Dakar!!!

Motivation enough to make sure 2016 happens!

Brett we will miss you in the results this year but are glad you are here to give us first hand insights  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:28:33 pm
Does anybody know what channel and time we will see the highlights pls ?

206, now!  Um, that's the wrong year, SuperSport.... It's 2015 now, that is last year's Day 1 highlights
 :angryfire:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 04, 2015, 10:31:04 pm
Wtf?

They are showing 2014 dakar....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 10:32:16 pm
Does anybody know what channel and time we will see the highlights pls ?

206, now!  Um, that's the wrong year, SuperSport.... It's 2015 now, that is last year's Day 1 highlights
 :angryfire:
Hehhehee
I saw Bang Bang donner down...... Then thought this aint right!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 04, 2015, 10:33:18 pm
Seriously WTF???? Wait a whole year for the first broadcast and Supersport makes a mess of it!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:35:41 pm
Wtf?
They are showing 2014 dakar....

'specially for you, Brett  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 10:36:50 pm
Seriously WTF???? Wait a whole year for the first broadcast and Supersport makes a mess of it!!

I tuned them!!

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 04, 2015, 10:39:06 pm
Hey guys... Really interesting getting all the updates on this thread, its going to be my Dakar fix for this year.

No disrespect, but it sucks being this side of the Dakar!!!

Motivation enough to make sure 2016 happens!

Brett we will miss you in the results this year but are glad you are here to give us first hand insights  :thumleft:

Thanks  :thumleft:

According to my better half, it is possible that the production crew hasn't yet sent the footage to Supersport yet. Maybe at 6am tomorrow....
Hold thumbs
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 10:42:00 pm
Lekker pics of Riaan posted by Darryl Curtis

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10872805_736557683102357_6943598185485295848_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1549325_736557586435700_5819942047704084663_n.jpg?oh=fdf614fc99fd32dccd74ba47171208b8&oe=552A289F&__gda__=1429996894_2359473e076e3275c65610d8e67b8a0a)

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 04, 2015, 10:42:32 pm
Ag nee regtig. Dis nou om van in n ou se broek te bol! Maar ek moet bysè ek like steeds Depres se Yamaha!! :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:43:13 pm
Via Twitter:
Working hard on Marc Coma's bike for Stage 2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 04, 2015, 10:43:32 pm
From Darryl on Twitter

@DarrylCurtisSA: Stage one is done and dusted, a high speed crash set Riaan back, but he recovered to finish 22nd today. The stage... http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr (http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:44:29 pm
Eish, I hope Riaan is OK. Big off, and he still comes in 22nd. Tough bugger.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Grolls on January 04, 2015, 10:45:32 pm
....This sucks M-NET  :deal:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Runner on January 04, 2015, 10:46:50 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.
Title: Re:
Post by: buzzlightyear on January 04, 2015, 10:48:32 pm
Ja nee wragtag.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 10:48:53 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.

Ek dink nie hulle gebruik meer tapes nie    :peepwall:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:52:22 pm
Via twitter:
Now it’s time to prepare the road book for tomorrow. It’s gonna be a long day
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 04, 2015, 10:53:17 pm
Pissed off Nani
https://www.youtube.com/v/e06Q31tzgFg
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 04, 2015, 11:00:24 pm
Wtf?
They are showing 2014 dakar....

'specially for you, Brett  :biggrin:

 :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Runner on January 04, 2015, 11:01:03 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.

Ek dink nie hulle gebruik meer tapes nie    :peepwall:



Werk jy vir hulle? >:D

Dalk moet hulle weer tapes kry, fok hulle steeds.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 04, 2015, 11:01:41 pm
Pissed off Nani
https://www.youtube.com/v/e06Q31tzgFg
Lekker man, lekker. Highlight of Dakar 2015 for me.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KTM Jagermeister on January 04, 2015, 11:03:38 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.

Voel ook so. My vrou se ek moet nie so aggressief raak nie. Runner jy het mooi woorde om hulle te beskryf. 0860002222 more eeerste ding!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 04, 2015, 11:05:30 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.

Ek dink nie hulle gebruik meer tapes nie    :peepwall:



Werk jy vir hulle? >:D

Dalk moet hulle weer tapes kry, fok hulle steeds.

Runner, bel my as jy gaan, ek wil saam! Ek sal shotgun ry soontoe.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 11:07:05 pm
Pissed off Nani
https://www.youtube.com/v/e06Q31tzgFg

He just heard DSTV is showing the 2014 Dakar!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Runner on January 04, 2015, 11:10:52 pm
Pissed off Nani
https://www.youtube.com/v/e06Q31tzgFg

He just heard DSTV is showing the 2014 Dakar!!

Hy wens, want toe was sy cabby nog sweet, nie fucktup soos nou nie.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: EtienneXplore on January 04, 2015, 11:13:17 pm
Pissed off Nani
https://www.youtube.com/v/e06Q31tzgFg

He just heard DSTV is showing the 2014 Dakar!!

Hy wens, want toe was sy cabby nog sweet, nie fucktup soos nou nie.

 :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 04, 2015, 11:24:20 pm
Thanks for the great info. It is my only Dakar feed and just caught up on the last 2 days.
Hope Riaan is OK and that he has managed to shake the jitters. He had his off, now that box is ticked for the next few days (holding thumbs).

G'nite all.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 04, 2015, 11:58:53 pm
SuperSport moet die domste dose op die planeet wees, laasjaar se fokken tape, hulle het seker gesien "Dakar stage one" en die tape gespeel, ek sal like om te sien wat gebeur as hulle laasjaar se Rugby final wys.Fokken dose.

As hulle nog nie die nuwe tape het nie sê dan fokken so, met al hulle ander programme kan hulle boodskappe bysit, net by die Daker nie.

Jammer hulle kantore is so vêr anders het ek nou gery en iemand gaan moer.

Voel ook so. My vrou se ek moet nie so aggressief raak nie. Runner jy het mooi woorde om hulle te beskryf. 0860002222 more eeerste ding!


SWAMBO: eerlikwaar....supersport kort twee skoppe op die zip. Warifak, dis die een event waaroor ek en my man nie baklei om te kyk nie. Dit bly altyd magic om die Dakar te kyk, al dan 2014, maar ons sou nie hierdie MF bottel rooi daarvoor oopgemaak het nie :angry4: :angry4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: zacapa on January 05, 2015, 12:40:09 am
watching this on Eurosport.... :thumleft:
arbitrary playlist file attached, it may work for you or not.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Aquatic on January 05, 2015, 04:21:07 am
From Darryl on Twitter

@DarrylCurtisSA: Stage one is done and dusted, a high speed crash set Riaan back, but he recovered to finish 22nd today. The stage... http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr (http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr)

Riaan's off.  :o :o

Should have been going quicker to clear the ditch like the Yammie

https://www.youtube.com/v/Qzs3121TjL4
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JustBendIt on January 05, 2015, 05:30:00 am
Jislaaik - that ditch was deep

Riaan is very lucky - could have been much worse

Strongs boet - hou die piele styf !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Aquatic on January 05, 2015, 05:47:35 am
Combination of errors.
Blind corner - See the first rider come over and down the hill into the corner
Dust - from previous rider braking

Riaan was also sideways when his bike tipped over. Lucky his bike didn't land on him
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:08:03 am
Gilly via FB:
Stage 2 Villa Carlos to Paz San Juan
From a very short stage, straight to the longest. The 518km stage starts with hard terrain, gets very dusty and ends on sand. We will be hoping to see David make one or two places in the beginning, then ease back in the dust and then lengthen his stride in the sand again.
Yesterday #103 David had a net gain of 20 places on the road in the four stages (5,10,5,0) which would have had him running off his natural pace. Today he starts among riders who are on his pace for a short stint, so we can expect a few to come to him toward the end of the day. At +00:18:48 behind the leaders, David is in touch with all his future rivals and has a number just behind him. Today will increase the gaps in the whole field and we will have a better idea of his prospects.
#20 Riaan had a quiet day and fans may be disappointed, but he is still just +00:05:48 behind the leaders. He finished in P22, but with penalties applied, he starts in P20, even with his seeding.
#88 Frank started very fast, then dropped back yesterday in each section. He and David both did the last two sections in 55min, so we could see them very close on the road soon.
In the Quads, #275 Brain B and #286 Hannes Saaiman find themselves at the back of the field, Hannes having towed Brian from after WP2. An engine change should result in a 15min penalty, so Brian will be about 50min off the lead. When we get to hindsight, we are likely to see that this will have had little effect on his overall placing unless he sees red mist and runs into more trouble trying to catch up too fast.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:09:47 am
Also FB:
Guillaume Martens in the first stage of Dakar2015
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:12:55 am
Bang Bang Barreda via FB:
Stage 1 :' We have gone too fast, in fact, in some cases, we have reached the age of 180 km  :eek7: - ! Had to take a little bit of wariness. Because he had socavones with water as a result of the rains of recent days and it was difficult to see the depth. In the last part of the special we stepped on a little bit of the throttle to see that we were close to Marc ( coma ), What we have been able to reach out and then we have been devoted to supervising the arms race, thinking about tomorrow. Tomorrow we will have a second stage, a very long with an configuration much more itself in Dakar and Navigation. Today, as he says, it has been a period of global warming, tomorrow it will already be something else, there will be a lot of wear. I am so motivated and I am looking forward to getting a full participant in the race.'
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:22:27 am
Today's stage:

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/200/M/CARTE.png)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/200/M/PROFIL_US.gif)

Bikes start at 11h30 our time
VAN NIEKERK RIAAN (ZAF) 11:58:30
HINTENAUS ALBERT (ZAF)  12:09:30
BOSMAN WESSEL (ZAF)      12:43:30
REEVE DAVID GREGORY (ZMB) 12:08:00   
SAAIJMAN WILLEM (ZAF)    11:56:30
BARAGWANATH BRIAN (ZAF)  11:57:30

Weird that, it shows the quads starting before the bikes. Is that right?

   
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 07:26:30 am
Combination of errors.
Blind corner - See the first rider come over and down the hill into the corner
Dust - from previous rider braking

Riaan was also sideways when his bike tipped over. Lucky his bike didn't land on him

Ja overshot the corner like the previous rider - also maybe saw the other rider … got sucked in … fooking lucky!  :o  That is one  tough crunchy  :big grin:  Agree - he has had is off can now get on with the race.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:30:22 am
Apologies, times above are when they leave the bivvy.
Special start times: (add five hours)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:32:04 am
Midway through the route today. Looks great
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:59:29 am
From Darryl on Twitter

@DarrylCurtisSA: Stage one is done and dusted, a high speed crash set Riaan back, but he recovered to finish 22nd today. The stage... http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr (http://t.co/5hvHu0nqPr)

Riaan's off.  :o :o

Should have been going quicker to clear the ditch like the Yammie

https://www.youtube.com/v/Qzs3121TjL4

Was out of range over the weekend so have some catching up to do!

First thing I found this morning while checking the AdvRider feed was this video and thought that looked a lot like Riaan! :o

Glad he was OK because that could have been worse! :thumleft:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:05:45 am
Lots of discussion over at AdvRider about the merits and legalities of a possible short cut found on the route today  :biggrin:

(http://www.hogwildracing.com/dakar2015/Dakar2015Stage2Shortcut2.jpg)

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Berty77 on January 05, 2015, 08:26:28 am
Good luck to all our guys, I whish all riders a safe ride today. Its going to be a long one.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: da PEEG on January 05, 2015, 08:45:39 am
SUB
(tired of having to go there manually every time... 
 :lamer: F5 Button time again...)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 09:10:26 am
From Simon Pavey FB:
A few images from the bivouac and the end of day one care of Rallymaniacs.nl
We had an easy day with a heck of a lot of sitting down! Day two is where the rally starts for real. So far, so good. Stay tuned folks!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 05, 2015, 09:20:53 am

 Op ADV-forum is daar fotos van daai kortpad geneem op grondvlak.
 Daai shortcut is rof soos n enduropad, nie die moeitewerd met die risikos in gedagte nie.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:32:22 am
All electric car participating this year  :thumleft:

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906259_820417748015378_5356086095575802585_n.jpg?oh=a12a2a110c9fcc0851d5194f6966009c&oe=553A5081)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: aka.Goliath on January 05, 2015, 09:34:38 am
Just got this now..

STAGE 1 - BUENOS AIRES - VILLA CARLOS PAZ
4th January

Liaison Sections: 663 km

Racing Stage: 175 Km

Total Distance: 838 Km

 

It was an early start for the team, leaving the hotel in Buenos Aires for the 5:15am start at the Tecnopolis which is where the parc ferme was. Riders loaded the first Dakar road books and donned jackets for the first liaison section of 144 Km’s. The 175Km special started at 7:50am and it was to be Red Bull Factory KTM’s Marc Coma, that set off first. Marc won the 2014 Dakar as well as the 2014 World Rally championship, so he is definitely the man with the target on his back. KTM has 13 successive wins at the Dakar and all other manufacturers are hungry for a win.

It was a long and dusty stage, absolutely flat out! The route ran mostly between farms with long straights and sharp corners, pretty much like road racing on dirt. Red Bull KTM Factory rider Sam Sunderland took the win covering the 175Km special in a staggering 1 hour 18 minutes. Broadlink’s Riaan van Niekerk made his way on time to 12th overall before a 90 degree bend in the road sent him through a barb wire fence and into a hole, where spectators had to pull his bike out. He emerged relatively unscathed, with some bruises, but got back on track to finish the day in 22nd.

Times are tight up front with Gonzalves in second, Coma third, Barreda fourth and Duclos fifth. Walkner is in 8th, Faria in 10th, Toby Price in 11th and viladoms in 14th.

 

Voice Clips:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pa0cpekx0hruedj/AACW8QXZxeJ33CqnyKTUF1Yma?dl=0

 

What’s happening today:

Today will be the longest stage of the rally, a whopping 518 Km’s. This will be a rude awakening and the first real test of the 2015 Dakar. The stage starts off with hard terrain in the beginning, followed by dusty sections in the middle and sandy stretches to the end. Those that haven’t done their homework will be going home early !

Ends

 

Image attachments

Document attachments
Stage_1_Broadlink_KTM.docx

Broadlink KTM Rally Team

Darryl Curtis
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:36:18 am
Robbie's "steering wheel girl" causing quite a stir  :biggrin: :ricky:

(http://hogwildracing.com/dakar2015/RobbysSteeringWheel2.jpg)

(http://hogwildracing.com/dakar2015/RobbysSteeringWheel1.jpg)

(http://advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=333013&stc=1&d=1420440625)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 09:40:02 am
Not sure if this is gonna work, here goes

://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e0is7_stage-1-car-bike-stage-summary-buenos-aires-villa-carlos-paz_auto[/flash][/flash][/flash]
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:41:08 am
Nice one of Riaan

(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/020_dk15_josemariodias_014143_g.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 09:42:08 am
No, damn!!

<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2e0is7" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e0is7_stage-1-car-bike-stage-summary-buenos-aires-villa-carlos-paz_auto" target="_blank">Stage 1 - Car/Bike - Stage Summary - (Buenos...[/url] by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Dakar" target="_blank">Dakar[/url]
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 09:45:35 am
Okay, I give up.

does someone know how to embed the video from dailymotion.com/dakar?

Stage 1 - Car/Bike - Stage Summary - (Buenos Aires > Villa Carlos Paz) (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e0is7)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Yami Super 10 on January 05, 2015, 09:46:24 am
Just a update for all you who tried to watch the Dakar on SS6 last night.
They will be showing the correct one at 11am today.


Gave them a piece of my mind.
Just got a apology and that they will show the right one.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 09:56:49 am
Okay, I give up.

does someone know how to embed the video from dailymotion.com/dakar?

Stage 1 - Car/Bike - Stage Summary - (Buenos Aires > Villa Carlos Paz) (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e0is7)


You just did it!  The link is fine.  :lol8:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 09:59:39 am
Just a update for all you who tried to watch the Dakar on SS6 last night.
They will be showing the correct one at 11am today.


Gave them a piece of my mind.
Just got a apology and that they will show the right one.

Ja at fucking 11 am today - when many people are back at work! WTF?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Yami Super 10 on January 05, 2015, 10:03:14 am
Just a update for all you who tried to watch the Dakar on SS6 last night.
They will be showing the correct one at 11am today.


Gave them a piece of my mind.
Just got a apology and that they will show the right one.

Ja at fucking 11 am today - when many people are back at work! WTF?

PVR  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 10:13:33 am
WOW!!!!!

THIS IS THE ABSOLUTELY STUNNING SCENERY THAT THE GUYS WILL BE RACING OVER IN THE FIRST SECTION OF TODAYS STAGE!!

Makes me want to buy a plane ticket over to Argies just to ride this bit.



https://www.youtube.com/v/316CtAZU6tQ
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 10:31:12 am
This from http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za)

STAGE 1 - BUENOS AIRES - VILLA CARLOS PAZ
04/01/2015

Liaison Sections: 663 km

Racing Stage: 175 Km

Total Distance: 838 Km

It was an early start for the team, leaving the hotel in Buenos Aires for the 5:15am start at the Tecnopolis which is where the parc ferme was. Riders loaded the first Dakar road books and donned jackets for the first liaison section of 144 Km’s. The 175Km special started at 7:50am and it was to be Red Bull Factory KTM’s Marc Coma, that set off first. Marc won the 2014 Dakar as well as the 2014 World Rally championship, so he is definitely the man with the target on his back. KTM has 13 successive wins at the Dakar and all other manufacturers are hungry for a win.

It was a long and dusty stage, absolutely flat out! The route ran mostly between farms with long straights and sharp corners, pretty much like road racing on dirt. Red Bull KTM Factory rider Sam Sunderland took the win covering the 175Km special in a staggering 1 hour 18 minutes. Broadlink’s Riaan van Niekerk made his way on time to 12th overall before a 90 degree bend in the road sent him through a barb wire fence and into a hole, where spectators had to pull his bike out. He emerged relatively unscathed, with some bruises, but got back on track to finish the day in 22nd.

Times are tight up front with Gonzalves in second, Coma third, Barreda fourth and Duclos fifth. Walkner is in 8th, Faria in 10th, Toby Price in 11th and viladoms in 14th.

What’s happening tomorrow:

Tomorrow will be the longest stage of the rally, a whopping 518 Km’s. This will be a rude awakening and the first real test of the 2015 Dakar. The stage starts off with hard terrain in the beginning, followed by dusty sections in the middle and sandy stretches to the end. Those that haven’t done their homework will be going home early!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: arrowfeather on January 05, 2015, 10:48:07 am
 :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 10:50:58 am
Via FB:
REVIEW : DAY 1
Unfortunately Brian Baragwanath experienced engine problems during the stage and Hannes Saaijman had to tow him - he also had to tow him more than 500km after the Special Stage (the liaison section) to the finish  (:notworthy: Hannes) where the crew worked until late in the night on the quads.
Results: Team Rhide SA after Day 1
- Hannes : 41st (31:45 behind the leader)
- Brian : 43rd (35:45 behind the leader)
DAY 2
STAGE 2

Any rest will be short-lived, because before reaching San Juan, the competitors will have a particularly busy schedule: quite simply the LONGEST special stage in the rally, which is varied enough to unsettle even the most experienced of drivers. Hard terrain at the start of the race will be followed by dusty sections in the middle of the day and a sandy stretch to finish. This is the first real test, which can only be successfully overcome through constant vigilance.
Liaison : 26km
Stage : 518km    :eek7:
Liaison : 81km
- They will tackle the racing section at 11h30 SA time
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 11:22:26 am
Just a update for all you who tried to watch the Dakar on SS6 last night.
They will be showing the correct one at 11am today.


Gave them a piece of my mind.
Just got a apology and that they will show the right one.

Ja at fucking 11 am today - when many people are back at work! WTF?

PVR  :thumleft:

Ja if you had known to set it!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: LDV on January 05, 2015, 11:26:57 am
Last year the Dakar was on catch up list under sport.if jou have a pvr


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 11:29:44 am
We're racing  :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: eddyVN on January 05, 2015, 11:52:37 am
Giniel gets third after Al-attiyah is caught speeding  :thumleft:

http://www.wheels24.co.za/Motorsport/Dakar/al-Attiyah-stripped-of-Dakar-Stage-1-win-20150105 (http://www.wheels24.co.za/Motorsport/Dakar/al-Attiyah-stripped-of-Dakar-Stage-1-win-20150105)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 11:55:13 am
Seems the tracking is FUBAR?

While we wait, an update from the service crew of the LC-450:
Day/Night 1
Just a quick note from my I phone on 3G as I can't send jenny any of today's pics until we get on the road today to Day 2 bivvy
It's 3am in the night/morning and I'm in the dining hall at the bivvy in Cordoba.
Carl, and all the others, had a good steady day today , which was the plan, we had Elsie(LC450) and Corkys Husky both suffer from fuel venting problems in the excessive 36C temps caused by what Martin(Torque Racing) thought correctly was breathers that couldn't cope with the rapid expansion of the cold fuel heating up after filling at service areas
We have replaced all breather caps with vented tubes and this seems to have sorted it out
Unfortunately Carlsaid Elsie had a bad low speed misfire, which we thought was caused by the breather problem, but after a late night changing plugs, filters etc we found it was a partially blocked fuel injector , so at 2 am me and Martin called ita day(night)
Tomorrow is over 1400km, the riders will be up at about 4-30am(in an hour or so) so I will stay up to see them off and then hopefully catch a few hours in the back of the pick up on the way to Day 2 bivvy
We expect it to take them over 15 hours to complete Day 2, so it will be a severe test for some.
Carl said that even with the misfire Elsie ate up the 530km liaison into the bivvy today, it was just the stalling in the corners of the special that annoyed him
Will send jenny pics later when we get wifi, this is one hell of a ride for us all, it's great that people come up in the service area to see us and already know the background to our project
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KTM Jagermeister on January 05, 2015, 12:00:49 pm
Via FB:
REVIEW : DAY 1
Unfortunately Brian Baragwanath experienced engine problems during the stage and Hannes Saaijman had to tow him - he also had to tow him more than 500km after the Special Stage (the liaison section) to the finish  (:notworthy: Hannes) where the crew worked until late in the night on the quads.
Results: Team Rhide SA after Day 1
- Hannes : 41st (31:45 behind the leader)
- Brian : 43rd (35:45 behind the leader)
DAY 2
STAGE 2

Any rest will be short-lived, because before reaching San Juan, the competitors will have a particularly busy schedule: quite simply the LONGEST special stage in the rally, which is varied enough to unsettle even the most experienced of drivers. Hard terrain at the start of the race will be followed by dusty sections in the middle of the day and a sandy stretch to finish. This is the first real test, which can only be successfully overcome through constant vigilance.
Liaison : 26km
Stage : 518km    :eek7:
Liaison : 81km
- They will tackle the racing section at 11h30 SA time

No penalties or additional time added - good news! 
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:31:41 pm
Gilly:
on route to San Juan
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:47:20 pm
JMo via FB:
Dakar Day 2 preview:
The second day this year is almost all timed - featuring the 2nd longest special stage (518km) topped and tailed with short liaisons making an overall distance of 625km - so much more like those old days of the African Dakar ;o)
It was an early morning for the bike riders, and the pretty much half the field now are on the Special Stage, which starts on narrow twisting mountain roads and climbs to an altitude of 2000 metres, before dropping down to the second half that levels out with soil-sand and dirt, and ultimately a short sand section at the finish.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 12:51:25 pm
Live timing dump, WP1 and 2 are open

Ahh, the old DAKAR timing glitch, brings back memories
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:52:18 pm
Tracking is alive!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 12:54:13 pm
All the SAFFERS are through WP1

OOPs, except Wessel
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:55:52 pm
From ADV:
Hog Wild posting his best guess stage 2 google earth route on race-dezert.com

http://hogwildracing.com/dakar2015/Dakar%202015%20Stage%202%20-%20Motos.kml (http://hogwildracing.com/dakar2015/Dakar%202015%20Stage%202%20-%20Motos.kml)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:56:35 pm
All the SAFFERS are through WP1

OOPs, except Wessel

Come on, Wessel  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 12:59:30 pm
Hmm, interesting #26 Toby price(aus) taking the lead through WP1 and 2  ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 12:59:57 pm
Riaan thu WP2  :thumleft:  17th provisionally
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: boland on January 05, 2015, 01:01:45 pm
Hmm, interesting #26 Toby price(aus) taking the lead through WP1 and 2  ???

You should search Toby Price on youtube, he is an incredible rider. This is his first Dakar, so lets see what happens!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 01:02:04 pm
LAIA and RIAAN through WP2 at exactly the same time, 2m09s behind TOBY PRICE
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 01:03:02 pm
Hmm, interesting #26 Toby price(aus) taking the lead through WP1 and 2  ???

You should search Toby Price on youtube, he is an incredible rider. This is his first Dakar, so lets see what happens!

 :thumleft:  Will do.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on January 05, 2015, 01:10:51 pm
Toby Price is one of the fastest desert racers out there. I hope he can make it last for 14 days, he should do well if he can.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 01:22:00 pm
Albert through WP2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 01:31:37 pm
WESSEL BOSMAN is through WP1   :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 01:32:09 pm
 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Go Wessel
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 01:40:30 pm
LAIA & RIAAN ARE THROUGH WP3

RIAAN has dropped his pace a bit coming in @ 3m08s and LAIA doing good @ 2m46s behind TOBY
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 01:45:34 pm
TOBY PRICE also has dropped the pace @ WP4 , coming in  0m54s behind BANG BANG who has taken the lead it seems, dropping TOBY to 4th place
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 01:49:58 pm
Brian 2nd through wp2...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 01:52:55 pm
 ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 01:53:05 pm
Brian 2nd through wp2...

correction... tied 1st
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 01:53:59 pm
Sunderland looking steadily fast. Impressive.

Perhaps Riaan is still feeling some aches & pains from yesterday's tumble.  Better he finishes safe and sound.  It is a long day today, and concentration may waver towards the end.  Survival first, attack later when some of the other competitor have ridden themselves (or their bikes) broken.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 01:55:09 pm
Brian 2nd through wp2...

That's more like it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 01:55:28 pm
???

Nope, started further back
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 02:05:55 pm
LAIA SANZ was almost a minute ahead of RIAAN @WP4 but at WP5 she has dropped 3m20s off RIAANS pace.

Looks like either a nab error or maybe she had a bit of an off?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:07:54 pm
Yes, she seems to have lost about 5 minutes somewhere.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 02:08:39 pm
Sunderland looking steadily fast. Impressive.

Perhaps Riaan is still feeling some aches & pains from yesterday's tumble.  Better he finishes safe and sound.  It is a long day today, and concentration may waver towards the end.  Survival first, attack later when some of the other competitor have ridden themselves (or their bikes) broken.
100% - The attrition rate has been fairly high in the past - A conservative play will pay dividends. He's looking consistent so far. Laia's lost some time between 4 & 5.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 02:25:26 pm
David up to 48th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:29:27 pm
David up to 48th

He's having a good day, making steady progress, picking off a few guys.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 02:29:51 pm
Wessel thru WP2  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 02:32:24 pm
Brian MIA after WP2  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:33:30 pm
These guys are doing 5-6 hours of racing over unknown terrain.  So the concentration levels must be needle-sharp all the time, while the body takes a continuous pounding.  I cannot even begin to grasp how extraordinary they are.  Or how fooked they'll be tonight. And then it starts all over again tomorrow.  For nearly two weeks!  :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7: :blob9:

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:35:17 pm
Brian MIA after WP2  ??? ??? ???

He made up 13 places in just 2 WPTs, so must have been flying.  Hope he didn't overcook it.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 02:36:54 pm
BRIAN BARAGWANATH having a smoking hot day 3rd pos @WP1 and unless it's another DAKAR/ASO glitch joint first @WP2 (+00:00:00)

That moves him up from 43rd(last) to 30th @WP2, lets hope he isn't over extending himself and crashes. still early days.

HANNES SAAIJMAN is steadily climbing the ranks too, starting in 39th position he is now in 31st position overall as of WP2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:38:52 pm
Brian made it to WP3, but lost 20 minutes somewhere.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 02:39:31 pm
Brian MIA after WP2  ??? ??? ???

Yep, I see the same....

Van Pelt also MIA....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 02:40:12 pm
Brian MIA after WP2  ??? ??? ???
22mins off ... something's happened to him - not having much luck  :(
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 02:41:34 pm
Brian MIA after WP2  ??? ??? ???

He made up 13 places in just 2 WPTs, so must have been flying.  Hope he didn't overcook it.


Looks like he might have, only come in 36th 22m35s behind Mauro Almeida
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 02:42:05 pm
Bang-Bang has taken lead away from Sunderland...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 02:42:50 pm
Giniel in first @ WP1 from a third start - looking positive ....

Nasser showing pace - takes it @ WP1 from Giniel by 36 secs
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 02:53:43 pm
Wessel at WP3  :lol8: and Riaan at WP7
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 05, 2015, 02:58:42 pm
Nasser hits the front
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 05, 2015, 03:03:45 pm
Sorry no time to read the whole thing. What happened to Brett Cummings, did he not make it to Dakar this year ??
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 03:05:52 pm
Sorry no time to read the whole thing. What happened to Brett Cummings, did he not make it to Dakar this year ??

He's one post above you  :imaposer:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 05, 2015, 03:09:06 pm
Sorry no time to read the whole thing. What happened to Brett Cummings, did he not make it to Dakar this year ??

He's one post above you  :imaposer:

There but not riding ??
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 03:13:14 pm
Dont have much time today either, had a quick glance at AdvRider and thought this was a good post:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tserts  View Post
None of the big boys is going full out, it's too early in the race to risk a disaster..
Precisely. I heard an interview w. Rick Mears (4x Indy 500 winner). He had an interesting framework for breaking down an endurance event and managing his risk.

He would half-life a race. In the first 250 miles he would only go fast enough to stay in touch w. the leader. The second 250 miles was broken into two 125s. He would then determine where he needed to be at the 375 mile mark (say 5th). He would only push hard enough to get to 5th at 375, anything faster was unnecessary risk. The last 125 would be broken into two 67 mile stints.....

This process would continue all the way down to the last few laps. The point being, he *never* pushed flat out for an entire event. It's not possible to push 100% for two weeks and finish well (see JBB pissing away a podium spot last year. 10 Yrs of RG's efforts, numerous other examples).

None of the smart guys at the front are going to go flat out for then entire stage this early in the race. There is still only one bona fide Alien in this field so far, and you can bet he has another level of blinding speed he can throw down whenever he wants. Can JBB, Sam, Toby hang when the hammer falls? If they can, they certainly start being considered for Alien status.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 03:13:35 pm
Leeroy Poulter also showing some pace .... would be nice to have another ZAR CAR in the top 10 to give those Tupperware cars a run  :lol8:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Orangejuicepony on January 05, 2015, 03:16:10 pm
sub
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:17:34 pm
Not looking good for BRIAN, still not yet reached WP4
HANNES is already through WP5

PLEASE let it be ASO timing glitch  :-[
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 03:18:13 pm
Dont have much time today either, had a quick glance at AdvRider and thought this was a good post:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tserts  View Post
None of the big boys is going full out, it's too early in the race to risk a disaster..
Precisely. I heard an interview w. Rick Mears (4x Indy 500 winner). He had an interesting framework for breaking down an endurance event and managing his risk.

He would half-life a race. In the first 250 miles he would only go fast enough to stay in touch w. the leader. The second 250 miles was broken into two 125s. He would then determine where he needed to be at the 375 mile mark (say 5th). He would only push hard enough to get to 5th at 375, anything faster was unnecessary risk. The last 125 would be broken into two 67 mile stints.....

This process would continue all the way down to the last few laps. The point being, he *never* pushed flat out for an entire event. It's not possible to push 100% for two weeks and finish well (see JBB pissing away a podium spot last year. 10 Yrs of RG's efforts, numerous other examples).

None of the smart guys at the front are going to go flat out for then entire stage this early in the race. There is still only one bona fide Alien in this field so far, and you can bet he has another level of blinding speed he can throw down whenever he wants. Can JBB, Sam, Toby hang when the hammer falls? If they can, they certainly start being considered for Alien status.
All except Robbie Gordon, of course ... he only has an on and an off switch  :imaposer:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 03:26:19 pm
Dont have much time today either, had a quick glance at AdvRider and thought this was a good post:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tserts  View Post
None of the big boys is going full out, it's too early in the race to risk a disaster..
Precisely. I heard an interview w. Rick Mears (4x Indy 500 winner). He had an interesting framework for breaking down an endurance event and managing his risk.

He would half-life a race. In the first 250 miles he would only go fast enough to stay in touch w. the leader. The second 250 miles was broken into two 125s. He would then determine where he needed to be at the 375 mile mark (say 5th). He would only push hard enough to get to 5th at 375, anything faster was unnecessary risk. The last 125 would be broken into two 67 mile stints.....

This process would continue all the way down to the last few laps. The point being, he *never* pushed flat out for an entire event. It's not possible to push 100% for two weeks and finish well (see JBB pissing away a podium spot last year. 10 Yrs of RG's efforts, numerous other examples).

None of the smart guys at the front are going to go flat out for then entire stage this early in the race. There is still only one bona fide Alien in this field so far, and you can bet he has another level of blinding speed he can throw down whenever he wants. Can JBB, Sam, Toby hang when the hammer falls? If they can, they certainly start being considered for Alien status.
All except Robbie Gordon, of course ... he only has an on and an off switch  :imaposer:

And more off than on today...  RG lost 10 minutes somewhere.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 03:27:22 pm
David Reeve just passed WP7. I am really chuffed that he is riding nice and steady, rather than blasting to the front and then to the scene of the accident......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 03:29:25 pm
Wessel at WP4  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 05, 2015, 03:29:41 pm
Dont have much time today either, had a quick glance at AdvRider and thought this was a good post:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tserts  View Post
None of the big boys is going full out, it's too early in the race to risk a disaster..
Precisely. I heard an interview w. Rick Mears (4x Indy 500 winner). He had an interesting framework for breaking down an endurance event and managing his risk.

He would half-life a race. In the first 250 miles he would only go fast enough to stay in touch w. the leader. The second 250 miles was broken into two 125s. He would then determine where he needed to be at the 375 mile mark (say 5th). He would only push hard enough to get to 5th at 375, anything faster was unnecessary risk. The last 125 would be broken into two 67 mile stints.....

This process would continue all the way down to the last few laps. The point being, he *never* pushed flat out for an entire event. It's not possible to push 100% for two weeks and finish well (see JBB pissing away a podium spot last year. 10 Yrs of RG's efforts, numerous other examples).

None of the smart guys at the front are going to go flat out for then entire stage this early in the race. There is still only one bona fide Alien in this field so far, and you can bet he has another level of blinding speed he can throw down whenever he wants. Can JBB, Sam, Toby hang when the hammer falls? If they can, they certainly start being considered for Alien status.
All except Robbie Gordon, of course ... he only has an on and an off switch  :imaposer:

And more off than on today...  RG lost 10 minutes somewhere.

Who is Robbie Gordon??????? :peepwall:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:29:55 pm
Not looking good for BRIAN, still not yet reached WP4
HANNES is already through WP5

PLEASE let it be ASO timing glitch  :-[

ok, BRIAN in @WP4, finally, running in last place 47m06s behind leader,
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:31:03 pm
Dont have much time today either, had a quick glance at AdvRider and thought this was a good post:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tserts  View Post
None of the big boys is going full out, it's too early in the race to risk a disaster..
Precisely. I heard an interview w. Rick Mears (4x Indy 500 winner). He had an interesting framework for breaking down an endurance event and managing his risk.

He would half-life a race. In the first 250 miles he would only go fast enough to stay in touch w. the leader. The second 250 miles was broken into two 125s. He would then determine where he needed to be at the 375 mile mark (say 5th). He would only push hard enough to get to 5th at 375, anything faster was unnecessary risk. The last 125 would be broken into two 67 mile stints.....

This process would continue all the way down to the last few laps. The point being, he *never* pushed flat out for an entire event. It's not possible to push 100% for two weeks and finish well (see JBB pissing away a podium spot last year. 10 Yrs of RG's efforts, numerous other examples).

None of the smart guys at the front are going to go flat out for then entire stage this early in the race. There is still only one bona fide Alien in this field so far, and you can bet he has another level of blinding speed he can throw down whenever he wants. Can JBB, Sam, Toby hang when the hammer falls? If they can, they certainly start being considered for Alien status.
All except Robbie Gordon, of course ... he only has an on and an off switch  :imaposer:

And more off than on today...  RG lost 10 minutes somewhere.

Who is Robbie Gordon??????? :peepwall:

Flash Gordons obnoxious klein boet
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 03:36:56 pm
If Laia doesn't risk too much by pushing too hard too soon, and has the stamina and rides the way she is, I reckon she could be in for a top 15 finish
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: MaxThePanda on January 05, 2015, 03:41:50 pm
Dakar is a tough game for just about everyone! Must be heart breaking to put in so much effort, money and time and then have things go wrong right from the beginning. Seems Brian is getting a rough deal... either he's had an off or the quad is going belly up again? He was equal first position at WP2...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: MaxThePanda on January 05, 2015, 03:42:42 pm
Poulter and Howie in the lead in their Toyota at WP2!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:44:58 pm
From planet Robby

@PLANETROBBY: Robby Gordon is long overdue at WP2 (KM80). At this time, we don't know what the problems are.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 03:45:08 pm
Leeroy Poulter smoking it today, giving the Tuperware a go - 1st through WP2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 05, 2015, 03:49:36 pm
From planet Robby

@PLANETROBBY: Robby Gordon is long overdue at WP2 (KM80). At this time, we don't know what the problems are.

1. He is American
2. His Ego
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:51:36 pm
Dakar is a tough game for just about everyone! Must be heart breaking to put in so much effort, money and time and then have things go wrong right from the beginning. Seems Brian is getting a rough deal... either he's had an off or the quad is going belly up again? He was equal first position at WP2...

I've got a feeling it's engine problems, he's through WP5 but still going very slowly. Maybe just nursing the quad home.

He looks like he has the potential, if the quad is running well, to mix it in with the front runners, that on his first DAKAR
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 03:52:48 pm
Riaan at WP10  O0
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 03:54:18 pm
From planet Robby

@PLANETROBBY: Robby Gordon is long overdue at WP2 (KM80). At this time, we don't know what the problems are.

1. He is American
2. His Ego


 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 04:01:23 pm
If Laia doesn't risk too much by pushing too hard too soon, and has the stamina and rides the way she is, I reckon she could be in for a top 15 finish

Princess Laia (HRH) times look interesting (below).

Looks like she lost some time to WP5, then plukked her moer and decided to show the boys how well she can ride.

(or it may just be timing glitches...  - but I prefer the other version !)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 04:24:49 pm
Nasser MIA at WP4? Leeroy taking another 1st
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 04:33:57 pm
Nasser MIA at WP4? Leeroy taking another 1st
Ja, Nasser must have some glitch.  I like the way Giniel is just sticking with the Minis.  If he can stay with them during the latter parts of today's stage (which seems to be very windy-windy mountain passes which will benefit the lighter cars like the Mini & Peugeot), he will have done exceptionally well.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 04:38:41 pm
David just passed WP10, and Albert passed WP9 a while back.
It looks like Albert lost some time early today, between DSS and WP1, but since then has been steadily climbing.
Lekker, man  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 04:43:31 pm
From ADV:
Someone on twitter:
Sam lost and off track by 6 km
 :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 04:44:23 pm
Wessel at WP6  :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 05, 2015, 04:59:19 pm
Saffer Toyotas running well. Top 3 currently.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 04:59:52 pm
From ADV:
Someone on twitter:
Sam lost and off track by 6 km
 :o

Ja, looks like he is 2 waypoints behind.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 05, 2015, 05:00:42 pm
Hope Supersport don't cock-up the broadcast tonight again.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 05, 2015, 05:05:47 pm
Hope Supersport don't cock-up the broadcast tonight again.

Just saw 2015 stage 1 on channel 205 under 2014 H/L heading. Might happen again at 18h00.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 05:08:52 pm
Nice informative post from Neduro at AdvRider  :thumleft:

Quote
A few comments in no particular order:

1) I say it every year, I'm such a fan of RG. Not necessarily his management style, or public persona, but he's the closest thing we have as a front runner to cheer for. Further, he's gone out of his way to help many moto racers over many years... I think he's a class act who plays his cards in public however he thinks will lead to the most press. Here's hoping it's a tracking problem (even though it appears to be more!).

2) Sunderland's interview yesterday seemed very revealing to me of someone interested in the long game. He seemed almost cross about the stage win, like he had misjudged things to have taken it. That's where his head should be, and he seems to have done a very solid job with it so far today. I agree with HomerJ's assessment that there is only one Alien, but I am hopeful for a new crop arriving on the scene- BamBam and Sunderland seem like the guys with speed who need to learn (or have learned over this year?) strategy for how to manage the race.

While I'm on the topic, it's hard to ignore the consistency of guys like Goncalves and Villadoms, to name just two. But I'm skeptical whether the consistent guys can pick up the edge in pace they need to win, whereas I feel like the fast guys can pick up consistency more easily. For sure it is fun to speculate about!

3) Factory 450 vs. RFR (replica): I have not studied the 15's in detail, but in previous years, the general bike is identical. The Factory models have better heads and maybe ignition/ mapping that gives a few more HPs, and run unobtainable suspension. The Aluminum cone valve fork is ~5+lbs lighter than the obtainable SXS cone valve, which is itself lighter than a production fork. Inmate 690RR is an expert on these differences and is wrenching for Chavo this year (Go Chavo!).

4) While i'm on the topic, look closely at forks to see differences. Cone valves have no taper to the upper fork tube, some of the special ones are 52mm male slider where stock is 48mm. A giveaway that's often noticeable from a distance is axle pinch bolts that thread in horizontally, bolt head forward, but that is not 100% as some cone valves have vertical threads. It's fun to see who's got what. If anyone wants a few pictures, I'll try for it later today.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 05:18:29 pm
Looks like Riaan may just overtake Olivier Pain on overall standings!  But then, the Yamis are clearly off the pace.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 05:23:30 pm
Not sure if these have been posted already but some nice pics  :thumleft:

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10356305_738083992926750_6269712077524994123_n.jpg?oh=f5187edd89c692725283f60c806b21fe&oe=553AEB4A)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10885238_738083966260086_989773940848919243_n.jpg?oh=6cfe91606c08c9b55870e2149db9ab97&oe=5523978B&__gda__=1428278747_dc96c8177dc67e5388c82e2f2e5f9f7c)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10888586_738084252926724_7254534282017954217_n.jpg?oh=5d793b948f8f94f5d04d7f55e6ad3c04&oe=5531A3A5&__gda__=1428320020_9c9cdb243510f810fdad5962044add2d)

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10922610_738084006260082_2323457438938284434_n.jpg?oh=3a787d6f68183b3d570637d6398848b6&oe=553CB1E5)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/14319_738083982926751_5203393404049429745_n.jpg?oh=57c7ad1a69d4f24d3a04ca789c203438&oe=553FAE01&__gda__=1430384236_8c1e1aeb1e42d7cc96339994aae6acc6)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10897078_894973613880129_5016268929212846517_n.jpg?oh=28bb53e24b3d6e2c3d409f42696270ba&oe=553342B4&__gda__=1430349160_c0f0135712ed6259907420244dc9b902)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 05:29:02 pm
Barreda's just finished apparently?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 05:33:24 pm
Hmm - Honda making a few statements  ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 05:36:02 pm
Barreda's just finished apparently?

Yep! and unless Coma can scrounge over three minutes to catch up then this is STAGE #2 goes to BangBang
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 05:39:20 pm
WOW!!!

MARC COMA COMES IN 12m32s BEHIND BAREDA
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 05, 2015, 05:41:12 pm

 Wessel gaan oor vinnig die hekkies  vandag!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 05:43:22 pm
Bang Bang has some sort of trouble apparently?

From Tsert at AdvRider

Quote
There is something wrong with BB's bike, the maray crew is saying that he can't finish the liaison...

Coma just rolled in...

+12.32
_____________

Apparently a tyre problem.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 05:48:08 pm
Bang Bang has some sort of trouble apparently?

From Tsert at AdvRider

Quote
There is something wrong with BB's bike, the maray crew is saying that he can't finish the liaison...

Coma just rolled in...

+12.32
_____________

Apparently a tyre problem.

TWITTER say's he's changing tyres to complete the liaison - rally raid review
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 05:48:56 pm
Bang Bang
Honda Honda
1, 2
 :ricky:

The red mist was red today  ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 05:54:28 pm
@DarrylCurtisSA: A few mousse issues at the end of today's 518Km special, Marc is through safely @dakar @redbullmotors @KTM_Racing http://t.co/TVqRpKUfss (http://t.co/TVqRpKUfss)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 05:57:15 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Provisional overall:
1: Barreda 7h06:44
2: Goncalves +4:37
3: Faria +10:37
4: Price +11:32
5: Coma +12:03
6: Walkner +12:26
7: Israel +16:24
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Breekbeen on January 05, 2015, 06:02:20 pm
now showing on 205
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:04:05 pm
From DAKAR.com

Perfectly on the pace until the end of the special, Marc Coma had to ease off in the last 60 kilometres due to a tyre that didn't last the distance on this long special stage. By riding at 60 kmph to avoid any further mishaps, the Spaniard has lost more than 12 minutes on the day's winner.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:11:45 pm
WOHOO!!!   :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7: :blob9:
RIAAN IN

+21m44s

12th place   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:14:18 pm
LAIA also in

She has placed 16th

+23m34
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:16:40 pm
Although Alessandro Botturi and Ivan Jakes still need to come in, so both Riaan and Laia might get bumped down 2 places
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:21:53 pm
Sam sunderland still not in?

He's not through WP12 yet.

If he is lost then he is seriously lost, maybe also tyre/mousse troubles?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 05, 2015, 06:23:09 pm
WOHOO!!!   :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7: :blob9:
RIAAN IN

+21m44s

12th place   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Well done boytjie!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:24:15 pm
Although Alessandro Botturi and Ivan Jakes still need to come in, so both Riaan and Laia might get bumped down 2 places

OK, they're both in, coming in below both Laia and Riaan, so it looks like their positions will stay.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 06:32:36 pm
Commuting sucks.
Riaan you beauty  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 06:42:57 pm
Sam sunderland still not in?
He's not through WP12 yet.
If he is lost then he is seriously lost, maybe also tyre/mousse troubles?

Apparently through WP12 now
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 06:45:10 pm
Sam sunderland still not in?
He's not through WP12 yet.
If he is lost then he is seriously lost, maybe also tyre/mousse troubles?

Apparently through WP12 now
@RallyRaidReview: Sam Sunderland back on track finally but with 70km to go. Ouch. Gutted for Sam. @KTM_Racing @Sundersam #Dakar2015
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 06:47:53 pm
Marc Coma looking a bit miffed at the end of the special.
Not drinking Red Bull any more, I see....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: ahlbebuck on January 05, 2015, 06:48:59 pm
Highlights Day 1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k52OfX3L2j1hHT9Mmxd (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k52OfX3L2j1hHT9Mmxd)

Anyone have links to longer clips?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 06:50:38 pm
Glad to see Brian is still moving, through WP9 now. 38th place, but still moving.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 06:51:12 pm
You gotta give it to Robby, the man can drive. Down to position 85 after wp2, now back to 21. Must have been hummering it.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 05, 2015, 06:56:13 pm
Looks like Riaan kept it relatively easy until the last few waypoints, when he showed Princess Laia she will have to try harder....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 06:57:58 pm
You gotta give it to Robby, the man can drive. Down to position 85 after wp2, now back to 21. Must have been hummering it.

From ADV:
.....When he was with Nasser and Nasser was complaining about the Hummer, IIRC Robby's mechanic produced a readout of Robby's throttle that showed he was WOT for something like 84% of the stage....
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:04:38 pm
Via FB:
Barreda on stage today
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 05, 2015, 07:05:38 pm
well done guys for keeping this updated. really following your every comment. go go go riaan!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:12:42 pm
From ADV:
KTM and Marc Coma are not happy at all. Marc looked upset when he arrived and even asked reporters to leave him alone.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 07:24:23 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Just announced, the stage was shortened for a portion of the bikers. Could this loophole save Sam?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 07:25:06 pm
@RallyRaidReview: "In light of the difficulty of the route and the end of the special, the stage will be shortened for a portion of the bikers placed..."
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Blender on January 05, 2015, 07:28:09 pm
WTF? So does this mean the leaders that finished get credited with time?
... or does Sam score?  :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:31:37 pm
So Riaan navigated well, looked after his tyres/mousse, and finished well, but might loose that advantage.
It doesn't smell right.   :angryfire:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:32:40 pm
David just finished, and Albert just passed WP13  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: wiledog_X on January 05, 2015, 07:33:05 pm
this is a funny photo…  :imaposer:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10891796_854168747975767_611921753074825500_n.jpg?oh=e1622efdea69a73bd6c4503dbab762f7&oe=5527BF9C&__gda__=1428699340_53fba0aa07870c831357e119aa4966f2)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:34:59 pm
(http://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=http%3A%2F%2Feditorialspace.redbull.com%2Fdakar2015%2Finfographics%2Fdakar-raider-gear-infographic-en.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:35:58 pm
Via Twitter:
@TeamrhideSA
We are waiting for info on Brian & what happened today. We will update you as soon as we have clarification.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 05, 2015, 07:36:29 pm
So Riaan navigated well, looked after his tyres/mousse, and finished well, but might loose that advantage.
It doesn't smell right.   :angryfire:
:angryfire: :eek7: :dousing:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:37:57 pm
Apparently Sam Sunderland is still severely lost  :patch:

They are starting to worry about his fuel ....

Hope he is OK and makes it in.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:42:26 pm
Looks like many are having tyre issues!

Quote
Originally Posted by MartinPetren  View Post
Perfectly on the pace until the end of the special, Marc Coma had to ease off in the last 60 kilometres due to a tyre that didn't last the distance on this long special stage. By riding at 60 kmph to avoid any further mishaps, the Spaniard has lost more than 12 minutes on the day's winner - Dakar.com

According to Daryl its actually mousse issues:

Originally Posted by Darryl Curtis ‏@DarrylCurtisSA 4m4 minutes ago on Twitter
A few mousse issues at the end of today's 518Km special, Marc is through safely

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6mP9LjCEAA4iBW.jpg:large)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:46:26 pm
Especially for Mario:

https://www.youtube.com/v/vUy3Jh1VY-o

https://www.youtube.com/v/8Qny5njbLQA

https://www.youtube.com/v/NryZUlJ1Vh0
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 05, 2015, 07:48:49 pm

Giniel 1ste in Overall Ranking ! so ver?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:49:26 pm
They're slow clapping for Sam already on AdvRider  :P

But it seems he's back on track  :thumleft:

Quote
from Dakar site

Après plus de deux heures à errer à l'écart du parcours, Sam Sunderland a enfin retrouvé la bonne piste. Il lui reste 70 km à parcourir pour rallier l'arrivée.

finally back on track but still 70 km to go...
__________________
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:51:43 pm
From ADV:
Gonk:

“Today was a really, really long and hard stage. It was more than 500 km but with really difficult tracks, a lot of rocks and a last 45 km that was amazing. There was some super grass and a section with sand. With this temperature it was really, really hard, but I'm happy to be here. In the middle of the stage I lost a little bit of time trying to find a way point. I lost the others and for the last 200 km I was on my own, but I'm happy for me, for HRC and especially for Joan, because he rode a really, really, really, really smart race today. He just started pushing after 350 km, so congratulations to Joan. I thought we were very brave today because it was a really difficult day. This was a really typical Dakar stage; it wasn't a normal Dakar stage, but one with a high amount of difficulty”.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 07:53:29 pm
Sutherland just finished.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:55:04 pm
Love this comment  :biggrin: (and fully agree)

Quote
The scariest place in the world must be sitting next to Robby when he has his back against the wall ....

http://instagram.com/p/xem8nWKnxs/ (http://instagram.com/p/xem8nWKnxs/)

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:56:50 pm
Sutherland just finished.

Yay! :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 07:59:49 pm
Audio interview of Barreda

http://www.dakar.com/AUDIOS/DAK/2015/200/audio_fr_audio_gb_joan_barreda_esp_2_1420474882.mp3 (http://www.dakar.com/AUDIOS/DAK/2015/200/audio_fr_audio_gb_joan_barreda_esp_2_1420474882.mp3)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 05, 2015, 08:01:53 pm
 Daar skuif Giniel 2e Overall Ranking toe.
 Taai storie wat opbou en dis nog vroeg in die Dakar.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:02:39 pm
Another funny comment about Robbie's expected approach to the rest of the Rally  :biggrin:

Quote
Sending JC a get well card and some valium in anticipation for the coming days...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:04:58 pm
I'm getting worried about Wessel...... ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:06:55 pm
Albert due at the finish any moment now.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 08:09:24 pm
@jennydakar: #Dakar2015 Stage 2 cut-short for bikes in the latter part of the field - presumably for safety reasons as cars now passing on narrow roads.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:11:45 pm
Ditch recovery from yesterday, aka Riaan ploughing

(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah15/Moto-Myway/Dakar%202015/Stage%202/vlcsnap-00009_zpsbeb9460f.jpg)

(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah15/Moto-Myway/Dakar%202015/Stage%202/vlcsnap-00013_zpsfd2e8d12.jpg)

(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah15/Moto-Myway/Dakar%202015/Stage%202/vlcsnap-00016_zps9dadac0a.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:12:19 pm
Quote
Shortening stage for today, per ASO:

"In light of the difficulty of the route and the end of the special, the stage will be shortened for a portion of the bikers placed in the second part of the standings, already very tired by this long stage."

 ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:13:29 pm
@jennydakar: #Dakar2015 Stage 2 cut-short for bikes in the latter part of the field - presumably for safety reasons as cars now passing on narrow roads.

Maybe that's why Wessel is MIA  ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:15:36 pm
Via FB:
Well David is home. As per the first post this morning, he made up a couple of positions, held station and then stretched his legs to end up about 10 places up for the day. We will have to wait for all the riders to come in before all the details are known, but we can hope for a sub-50 overall placing. There is a story to be told about the last section, David lost time and will be kicking himself. As with the previous races, when he loses a bit of time, those around him tend to lose more.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:16:11 pm
Some commentary by wilkinsonk at AdvRider

Quote
In the "old days" shortening (or even neutralizing) a stage did not always benefit the riders. See Bob Bergman's recount of the 2005 Barcelona-Dakar for a prime example of how this can play out. Great story of the old Africa days.

http://www.pete2dakar.com/bob-bergmans-dakar/ (http://www.pete2dakar.com/bob-bergmans-dakar/)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 05, 2015, 08:17:01 pm
Nasser snuck in under the radar to take 1st place ... Great consistent ride by Giniel
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:22:33 pm
Albert is in
 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:25:11 pm
Anyone know how to get the France 4 coverage again?  They posted a link on AdvRider but it does nothing, there is some other trick to it that I cant remember from last year?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:31:07 pm
Oh bugger, hope this is not true  :patch: :o

Quote
Word of Carlos Sainz having hit a biker.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:32:03 pm
Provisional overall:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 08:41:02 pm
So Riaan navigated well, looked after his tyres/mousse, and finished well, but might loose that advantage.
It doesn't smell right.   :angryfire:
:angryfire: :eek7: :dousing:

Simple - there are a lot of French riders still out there.  ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 08:43:04 pm
@jennydakar: #Dakar2015 Stage 2 cut-short for bikes in the latter part of the field - presumably for safety reasons as cars now passing on narrow roads.

Maybe that's why Wessel is MIA  ???

Most likely, both Wessel and Brian seem to be stuck at WP9 and have been for a long time.

I just hope this doesn't turn into another ASO orders debacle like last year.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:43:29 pm
Twitter:

Toby Moody ‏@TobyMoody  7m7 minutes ago
Long day on Dakar today. Just seen France Television coverage. @CSainz_oficial interviewed at stop line. Looked utterly shattered….

MikeWerner ‏@MikeWerner  6m6 minutes ago
That's because he said he crashed into a bike, and he got emotional since he didn't know the state of the biker.

Paula Silva ‏@PaSilvaN  4m4 minutes ago
And he didn't stop???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:44:14 pm
Some nice footage of the Toyota bakkies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGh3TzICW6s#t=68 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGh3TzICW6s#t=68)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Breekbeen on January 05, 2015, 08:47:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/v/iGh3TzICW6s
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:49:04 pm
Honda video from yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V5LomjAcJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V5LomjAcJ8)

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 05, 2015, 08:50:17 pm
Apparently Sam Sunderland is still severely lost  :patch:

They are starting to worry about his fuel ....

Hope he is OK and makes it in.

SS must be gutted - from hero to zero!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 08:52:49 pm
@jennydakar: #Dakar2015 Stage 2 cut-short for bikes in the latter part of the field - presumably for safety reasons as cars now passing on narrow roads.

Maybe that's why Wessel is MIA  ???

Most likely, both Wessel and Brian seem to be stuck at WP9 and have been for a long time.

I just hope this doesn't turn into another ASO orders debacle like last year.

Ja lets hope so  :bueller:

Some more info on this:

Quote
My dutch friend Bastian T's recent press release translated

Very briefly a message between. At 19.10 rang Bass called short by saying that that competition has led the race for motorcycles immediately halted because of the tremendous heat. It is clear that the organization as a battlefield that last year on the third day took place wants to avoid. Bass and other BAS men were approached to about 80 km from the finish. All participants were awarded water and then could continue their way to the finish line and the bivouac. Whether that is through slopes or on asphalt is not known. Tonight, after Bas has arrived at the bivouac, there follows a more detailed message.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 08:55:26 pm
Highlights of Stage 1 on DStv channel 206 at 21h00 and 22h00 tonight, Stage 2 at 22h30.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 09:04:29 pm
alanB

Very interesting snippet, so as far as we know all the guys could already be in the Bivvy.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: zacapa on January 05, 2015, 09:04:35 pm
Highlights of Stage 1 now available on kickasstorrents.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 05, 2015, 09:06:59 pm
From yesterday:
(more, much more, at http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034488&page=1 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1034488&page=1))

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/27.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/28.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/29.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/31.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/30.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/33.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/34.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/35.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/36.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/41.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/43.jpg)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/44.jpg)


Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Would I? on January 05, 2015, 09:08:35 pm
Tracker for bikes not moving?????

Bikes stopped??
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:10:28 pm
Twitter:

Toby Moody ‏@TobyMoody  7m7 minutes ago
Long day on Dakar today. Just seen France Television coverage. @CSainz_oficial interviewed at stop line. Looked utterly shattered….

MikeWerner ‏@MikeWerner  6m6 minutes ago
That's because he said he crashed into a bike, and he got emotional since he didn't know the state of the biker.

Paula Silva ‏@PaSilvaN  4m4 minutes ago
And he didn't stop???

Ja mixing bikes and cars is pretty nerve wracking IMO:

It always fills me with dread thinking what it must be like on a  bike at the back, battling to get home, maybe nursing injuries or mechanical issues and then getting in amongst the leading cars who are ruthlessly fighting for positions where seconds count - never a good combination  :patch:  :-\

Not to mention the trucks  :o

I suppose to pay the bills the organisers have to have as many competitors of different types as possible, both to increase fee revenue and increase television coverage - but it does push up the dangers considerably, especially to the slower bikes and quads.

It would be interesting to hear Alex's take on this for the forthcoming Amageza which will include cars - its going to make getting lost or stuck on a bike a lot more of an issue next year with cars blasting through at mach 1  :patch:

Anyway....

I just hope the biker is OK!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:16:51 pm
Laia looking a little strained?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10377163_360769887438969_4839883461193059513_n.png?oh=58664705b60aeae8038175781b30429c&oe=55374013&__gda__=1428701049_af272fadf9adf9c37f1bc68d042dc9a7)

Some more context to this photo...

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldAndBusted  View Post
What's the context of that photo? And why does Laia have upside down windex bottles on her bandana?
Pedro and Laia are a couple. KH-7 is her personal sponsor that she now brought to HRC. They are a cleaning products/chemical company.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: 777 on January 05, 2015, 09:49:32 pm
Am I missing something,I taped CH 206 last night,said it would be stage 1 of 2015,but watching it now it last years sage one?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 09:58:40 pm
You can see why Laia is looking a little drained, it seems to have been a really tough stage!

Quote
250 - I. Casale describes a kind of hell..

“Today it was a very difficult stage, the hardest I've ridden in my life. I thought that I was going to drop out. I had a lot of thoughts running around my mind throughout the day. 100 kilometres from the end of the special, I didn't have any water left and I got really dehydrated. I suffered a lot and didn't feel great at all. I slowed down my pace over the last 100 km. In any case, given the length and toughness of the stage, the aim was to make sure I finished. I think I'm 5 minutes behind [he actually finished 3'33 behind winner Rafal Sonik]. But I couldn't do anything more, I was in a really complicated situation. I went and sat in the medical tent for 40 minutes to rest and drink… I've never experienced anything like that”.

301. N.Al-Attiyah almost fell asleep in the car

“We won the stage. This was a big thing today. This is the key of this Dakar. Now we can go calmly until the rest day. For the marathon day we can go really easily, but we will try every day to be like this. It was a plan today because we studied the stage very well: me and Matthew went to sleep yesterday at 1:30. We made a very good job of it. Ok, I know it's hard. I was nearly sleeping in the car! But this is a good point and we need to work every day and take it day by day. I don't know about victory, but today we tried to make a good job of it. There's still a long way, still a long way.

307. K. Holowczyc though that would never finish

“It was a tough stage, really heavy, for everybody, I think. It was not so easy for the cars to pass the last section because the sand was soft and it was wavy, up and down, up and down at 30 km… At a slow speed, it's not easy. Believe me, I started to feel sick over the last 30 km. I wanted to throw up, I had a headache… everything. I thought I would never finish. The last 30 km was really hard. Finally I got to the finish and that's the most important thing. Believe me, I don't mind about the time, the rally has only just started”.
__________________

Some more from Coma:

Quote
Coma

“We know that today was a very tough day. We started in the morning with a good feeling, not pushing too hard because we knew it was a long day. But on the other side, I felt that 60 km from the end my rear tyre was finished and I started to ride no faster than 60 kmph, no faster than that. Ok, we lost some time today, but at the end I'm lucky because normally I could have stayed stuck in the desert all the day”
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 10:01:35 pm
Some confirmation about the "water in the swingarm, which you drain before riding" speculation/debate we had in the other thread :biggrin: :thumleft:



Quote
The whole "water in the swingarm" or "self destructing water holders to save weight" probably seems like a bad idea on a day like today
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 10:02:34 pm
Hey 777

Go back a few pages and check out the reaction from the Wilddogs who stayed up and waited. :deal:

I swear I was expecting to see  the news headlines this morning read "angry biker mob burns downs supersport studios"  :dousing:

I think stage one should be showing now, and todays stage just after.

Supersport say "EISH, SORRY NE"  :lol8:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 05, 2015, 10:08:02 pm
I see on FB that Brian has a flat on the back that he can not get fixed and is riding on the rim with 200 kms to go... Balls of steel! Hannes is done ith the stage. 
 :sip:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 10:15:45 pm
@TeamrhideSA: He's home - 2x flat tyres could not stop @TeamrhideSA #HannesSaaijman who finished 20th in QUADS, now 21st overall! http://t.co/jnEe38UUDX (http://t.co/jnEe38UUDX)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 05, 2015, 10:19:07 pm
Cummon Brian... You gots this!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: 777 on January 05, 2015, 10:23:22 pm
Hey 777

Go back a few pages and check out the reaction from the Wilddogs who stayed up and waited. :deal:

I swear I was expecting to see  the news headlines this morning read "angry biker mob burns downs supersport studios"  :dousing:

I think stage one should be showing now, and todays stage just after.

Supersport say "EISH, SORRY NE"  :lol8:
Shot so it was not me then.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 05, 2015, 10:26:38 pm
Last snippet, before I shut down for the night from Laia's FB page apparently:

Quote
Arrived in the bivouac! Great 16º position after a very long and difficult day. The last 100km have been tough, with 40ºC a lot of fesh-fesh and many bumps in the last km's. The most important is to keep going day by day, step by step.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: profiler on January 05, 2015, 10:27:06 pm
 :thumleft:  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Milla on January 05, 2015, 10:27:21 pm
Hey 777

Go back a few pages and check out the reaction from the Wilddogs who stayed up and waited. :deal:

I swear I was expecting to see  the news headlines this morning read "angry biker mob burns downs supersport studios"  :dousing:

I think stage one should be showing now, and todays stage just after.

Supersport say "EISH, SORRY NE"  :lol8:
Lag my gat af. Ek sou rerig nie gisteraand gemind het om hulle te brand nie.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 05, 2015, 10:28:21 pm
OVERALL POSITIONS

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps1f0bba82.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps1f0bba82.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: weskus on January 05, 2015, 10:29:34 pm
Looks like the quad guys do not experience a great deal of luck hey, go Brian & Hannes..
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Camelman on January 06, 2015, 12:40:33 am
Half the bike field still missing. This on stage 2. Eish. :o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KiLRoy on January 06, 2015, 01:00:31 am
Boys am i deur die kak, ignorent or plainly slow.....but where is our Wilddog legend Brett Cummings?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 06, 2015, 05:42:52 am
Boys am i deur die kak, ignorent or plainly slow.....but where is our Wilddog legend Brett Cummings?

Sitting at home watching the Dakar like us?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:28:51 am
Morning all.

Daily Pic of Laia:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10922692_360796664102958_1478374408441827685_n.png?oh=49f319eec598bcdfc4fd2ff2efdfc500&oe=5544736D&__gda__=1429139413_ae48c4e98e1a6f433fd99ca3b102b0dc)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:32:52 am
Some debate from  the knowledgeable at AdvRider about the merits of diverting half the field yesterday:

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I think 50% is the magic number - it's evens. Any less than that and I'm not sure you'd see the number of privateers spending what is typically €30,000 upwards to take part if their chance of finish was less than 50/50?

That said, I don't think anyone here is suggesting that the course should not be cut for safety reasons, only that those who fail to reach the cut off ought to be excluded... and that is always going to be a tough call for ASO with one eye on the bank balance regarding future entries...

I tend to agree with what Anders Green suggested back on page 102 - that because of the variables over the course of the day, and especially with the shear number of competitors involved in the Dakar, inevitably conditions are going to deteriorate as the day goes on, making it harder for those riders towards the rear of the pack, regardless of how talented they are?

I stand by my assertion that the ASO are responsible for a rally route that allows ALL of their competitors to have a fair chance of finishing within the prescribed time allowed - the faster guys are always going to finish first, and there is already plenty of attrition through mechanical failure, accidents and fatigue anyway. Obviously ASO have no control over the weather, and if conditions have deteriorated to the point where safety is going to be compromised, it is their responsibility to protect those entered in the race.

Personally I don't believe that the competitors should be penalised for what is essentially the Orga being a little over ambitious with the length and terrain of the route today. I would also add that clearly the Orga had a contingency plan in place, which they have now employed.

There is a big difference between not being fast/good enough to make a time check, and being a victim of circumstance (starting later in the day) that means you got caught in the heat of the day and the chewed terrain of the previous competitors?

All this is kind of academic anyway. ASO have made their decision, and you can bet by the end of this year's event the attrition rate will be broadly the same anyway. ASO always have a plan for that ;o)

Jx
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 06:33:34 am
Boys am i deur die kak, ignorent or plainly slow.....but where is our Wilddog legend Brett Cummings?

If you go up a page or so he is here on this thread contributing!  :3some:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:34:29 am
From KTMs newsletter:

Viladoms said it had been a hard and long day. "We had many different kinds of terrain and the worst one was the final part which was sandy and bumpy. I'm happy because I had a good rhythm throughout the race but I also saw I could have problems with the mousse so I had to slow down and be careful in the last part."
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:37:50 am
Miran Stanovnik ‏@miranstanovnik 5m5 minutes ago
2nd stage on #dakar2015 was one of the most demanding stages in my 20 years career! Finished on 43rd place.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:39:26 am
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Laurent Moulin was the rider hit by Sainz. Broken leg and facial trauma. Being operated on.

This is what I gather from the rough translation.

Moulin was featured pretty heavily in the France4 coverage of stage 1. It followed him through scrutineering and as he traced down what looked like a fuel leak and some new parts from Yamaha. Shame and hope he's ok.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:43:29 am
Nice pic of Faria

(http://image2.redbull.com/rbcom/010/2015-01-05/1331697962801_2/0010/1/1200/800/2/ruben-faria-acelerar-para-a-terceira-posi%C3%A7%C3%A3o.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:44:47 am
Very arty wide angle shot of Barreda  :thumleft:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10922423_895770170467140_8139878161972368656_n.jpg?oh=c4dad133b2feef385a9b77c1a0656500&oe=55237DF6&__gda__=1433361998_4e703fa1c45e8438ac64599715bab50d)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 06:48:09 am
The story of the biker that was hit by a car. Not pretty. He is apparently in hospital having an operation.

Quote from: JMo (& piglet);25860669
I like to think I now have the definitive answer (almost), having just got off the phone with Calle in South America..

It goes like this:

Calle was riding in a narrow sandy canyon section when he heard the sentinel go off, he pulled to the side and car #304 Carlos Sainz overtook him fast but safely, but there was a huge amount of dust and Calle couldn't see immediately, but set off again after a few moments.

He came round a corner and saw bike #110 and the rider Laurent Moulin on the ground.

Carlos' car was about 50 yards ahead and Carlos was running back to the scene. They both helped to stabilise Laurent who was in a very bad way - blood pouring from his face Calle said - broken teeth, jaw perhaps.

Calle pushed the red button on the Iritrak and explained the situation to the Orga who dispatched a helicopter.

Laurent kept trying to get up so Calle said had to hold his head still and try to get him to relax.

Sainz did stay for quite a few minutes - and Calle said he looked visibly shocked, although was running on adrenalin at the time. When another French rider also stopped at the scene, Carlos left them to look after Laurent, and continued the stage. Carlos was certainly NOT the bad guy in that regard said Calle.

So the only question remaining (which Calle is unable to answer, as he was more concerned with keeping Laurent calm and stable) is whether Carlos hit the bike from behind (ie. overtaking him) or if indeed Laurent had [thought he had] made a navigation error and was actually travelling the wrong way down the track when Carlos hit him - I understand this is Carlos' discription of what happened.

Certainly the severity of the injuries (including a broken leg too, although it is unclear which side) wound indicate it was a head-on collision as Carlos describes.

Calle did feel that the navigation was pretty straightforward at that point, and that it is feasible that Laurent was actually heading in the same direction (and was therefore hit from the rear) -  but just wasn't able to move out of the way in time if he did indeed hear a sentinel - certainly the visibility for Carlos at that point would have been very poor with the dust hanging the air between bushes at the side of the track - so it is possible there was no sentinel.

That said, I think based on the circumstances, we have to believe that Carlos was doing everything right, and was surprised by bike #110 coming the other way - in that regard, based on the damage in the photo above, it would appear he hit the bike off-side to off-side as both parties tried to move out of the way at the very last minute?

So there you go. Carlos is not a bad guy - and I think his appearance at the end of the stage (other than the lack of air conditioning ;o) reflects that he was indeed very shaken up by the whole affair.

Court is now in recess.

Good night.

Jx
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 06:51:24 am
Riaan, David and Albert made it to the finish. The last report of Wessel was at WP10.
There is talk of parts of the stage being "neutralised", but we don't know yet what that will mean for Wessel.
I hope he gets to carry on. Backmarkers have balls.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:54:13 am
Honda video of the stage  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOD0XhIeCN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOD0XhIeCN0)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:59:31 am
The story of the biker that was hit by a car. Not pretty. He is apparently in hospital having an operation.

Quote from: JMo (& piglet);25860669
I like to think I now have the definitive answer (almost), having just got off the phone with Calle in South America..

It goes like this:

Calle was riding in a narrow sandy canyon section when he heard the sentinel go off, he pulled to the side and car #304 Carlos Sainz overtook him fast but safely, but there was a huge amount of dust and Calle couldn't see immediately, but set off again after a few moments.

He came round a corner and saw bike #110 and the rider Laurent Moulin on the ground.

Carlos' car was about 50 yards ahead and Carlos was running back to the scene. They both helped to stabilise Laurent who was in a very bad way - blood pouring from his face Calle said - broken teeth, jaw perhaps.

Calle pushed the red button on the Iritrak and explained the situation to the Orga who dispatched a helicopter.

Laurent kept trying to get up so Calle said had to hold his head still and try to get him to relax.

Sainz did stay for quite a few minutes - and Calle said he looked visibly shocked, although was running on adrenalin at the time. When another French rider also stopped at the scene, Carlos left them to look after Laurent, and continued the stage. Carlos was certainly NOT the bad guy in that regard said Calle.

So the only question remaining (which Calle is unable to answer, as he was more concerned with keeping Laurent calm and stable) is whether Carlos hit the bike from behind (ie. overtaking him) or if indeed Laurent had [thought he had] made a navigation error and was actually travelling the wrong way down the track when Carlos hit him - I understand this is Carlos' discription of what happened.

Certainly the severity of the injuries (including a broken leg too, although it is unclear which side) wound indicate it was a head-on collision as Carlos describes.

Calle did feel that the navigation was pretty straightforward at that point, and that it is feasible that Laurent was actually heading in the same direction (and was therefore hit from the rear) -  but just wasn't able to move out of the way in time if he did indeed hear a sentinel - certainly the visibility for Carlos at that point would have been very poor with the dust hanging the air between bushes at the side of the track - so it is possible there was no sentinel.

That said, I think based on the circumstances, we have to believe that Carlos was doing everything right, and was surprised by bike #110 coming the other way - in that regard, based on the damage in the photo above, it would appear he hit the bike off-side to off-side as both parties tried to move out of the way at the very last minute?

So there you go. Carlos is not a bad guy - and I think his appearance at the end of the stage (other than the lack of air conditioning ;o) reflects that he was indeed very shaken up by the whole affair.

Court is now in recess.

Good night.

Jx


Thanks Steve!

Sounds nasty, but it could have been a lot worse!  Glad he is alive at least.

According to:
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Just heard from #134 Clayton Jacobsen (via Facebook)... he's made it in...He said it was 52°C in the desert today.

Fifty Frikkin' Two!!!

Jx

Just imagine it what it must be like for the back markers riding one of the hardest stages in a long time in 52 C  :o with cars blasting past in the dust?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:01:39 am
Another nice pic

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10887571_866057733445671_1940646694604189601_o.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:04:05 am
Didnt hear about this?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6nb5AzIEAIq0vY.jpg)

Adam Malysz's SMG Buggy

Apparently this is what it was before...

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6nfjYSIUAAe0OM.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:08:44 am
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Eurosport saying Sam is in the medi tent with dehydration
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:11:51 am
Nice video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q6TVy8dh0M#t=68 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q6TVy8dh0M#t=68)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 07:17:27 am
Anyone got the pic of Laurent's bike? Nasty accident!  :o  I do not think we can comprehend what it is like to ride a bike in those conditions and with cars and trucks up ones ass and on top of one.  :eek7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:22:50 am
Pic of Sanz's car

(http://img.20mn.fr/S7pdF1SeT_SofNv4j45ZKg/648x415_peugeot-carlos-sainz-endommagee-apres-pilote-espagnol-percute-motard-francais-lors-2e-etape-dakar-5-janvier-2015.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KTM Jagermeister on January 06, 2015, 07:24:38 am
Ag nee, Brian is out.   http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:25:35 am
Originally Posted by Peugeot Sport ‏@peugeotsport 9m9 minutes ago
@cyrildespres Incredible stage today. Since I begin motorsport, I've never seen this. It was like a hairdryer at full blast in your face.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:29:13 am
Anyone know more about this guy?  Sounds like an amazing story!

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Super-hero Albert LLovera, paraplegic neighbor of Cyril Despres:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6n5S9LIQAA-AEF.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 07:31:36 am
Ag nee, Brian is out.   http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre)


bleak news!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:33:22 am
From Tomas Kocanda at AdvRider:

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I just finished interview for our blog (and Eurosport CZ edition) with Ondra Klymciw. And got also bivouac info from Jan Vesely.
Both mention the same:

- exhausted to limits. Ondra was not able to ride standing on the end of the stage and almost fall-off the bike in finish. They rised his legs (like several others around) and splashed water on his face. He mentioned that it´s the most exhausting day in his life so far.

- passing riders was again quite complicate. He was unable to pass others for maybe 150km off todays stage lenght. Too much dust from fesch-fesch.

- in the middle of the stage experienced that his forks are getting loose in triple clamps! Had to fix it at some CP, lost some of the bolts already. Quite annoying. He is riding those factory ultra-expensive wider diameter forks by the way

- he experienced quite a lot of pain from kidney area, even when he tried to drink as much as possible, he could not piss anything whole day and seems like he suffered little bit dehydratation. He wa shaking, one minute cold, other minute hot...

- he rode Michelin and without any problems or extra wore. Strange why Coma had such problems as most of the stage was on soft soils

- he would be able to ride faster, but he said straigh, that he want to finish and not get crashed in second stage. He said, some no-brain riders from behind were passing in zero visibility, full speed in dust even through some bushes around the track when there was group of slower riders at front. He said, that some people ride like really removed brains before start of the stage.

- finished together with exhausted David Pabiska, who was about to take a short break and Ondra was pushing him to continue together and helped each other by moral to finish it.

- Jan Vesely finished OK as well, he ride in team with slovak Ivan Jakes, who was excellent today as well as Stefan Svitko. Jan mentioned, that heat totally melted his rear tank on his new KTM450RR and the rear tire dented it then. He finished without gasoline just few meters after passing finish line. Rear tank empty of coarse. He went to KTM truck for a new tank and got it with lots of apologizes. Strange. Maybe some production problém? Anyway, new tank looks the same as the one, what been deformed by exhaust heat.

I tried to google translate whole interview, but it does not make sense. We use quite a lot of special bikers terms in czech and google is unable to translate it...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:40:26 am
Ok last one, then I have to get going.

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According to Calle, the word around the bivouac is that the stage will be neutralised from a certain point (quite possibly the 2nd refuel), and that all the times at that point will stand as the overall positions.

Whether this is accurate I'm not sure, but it does have potential repercussions for those riders who might have been a bit behind at the CP, but made up time/position in the final sector.

Conversely, it might just save Sam Sunderland's skin - does anyone know exactly where he got lost?

I guess ultimately they will look at the times of all the leading riders at the cut-off CP, and make a judgment depending on how many have a disparity between their position relative to the rest of field there and their final position at the ASS. If it's the same, then technically no harm done?

Of course where that leaves riders a little down the field (who might have moved up a position or two in the final sector) is anyone's guess... but of course the time difference between the mid pack riders is measured in numbers of minutes compared to the seconds of those contesting the top ten or twenty positions each day anyway - so moving one or two positions either way at such an early stage in the race is rather academic I would have thought?

And I guess that ultimately, when have ASO really cared about accommodating anyone other than the factory riders these days anyway?!

Jx
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 08:05:49 am

 I don't see #143 Wessel in the General Rankings.
 Am I missing something ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:06:28 am
Anyone got the pic of Laurent's bike? Nasty accident!  :o  I do not think we can comprehend what it is like to ride a bike in those conditions and with cars and trucks up ones ass and on top of one.  :eek7:

Brett, you online? I seem to recall you did a stage in 50 degree heat, and ended up on a drip?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 06, 2015, 08:13:42 am
Ag nee, Brian is out.   http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2015/us/withdrawals/quads.html#ancre)


bleak news!
Team Rhide face book update last night. Not clear but seems tyres was part of Brians woes


NEWS JUST IN :
Team Rhide SA technician, Philipie Baard, has just spoken to Brian who has not reached WP10 yet. It seems that he has a flat rear tyre (from 340km mark) and that is is riding on the rim - he does not have a spare rear tyre on his bike and keeps on getting stuck. He still has just under 200km to the end of the stage (last 100km is sand) with about 80km liaison to the finish...
Hannes is 19th fastest through WP 13 - 50 odd kilometres to go to the end of the stage...
Not sure if THIS will apply to the quads as well: "Stage shortened for the bikers - In light of the difficulty of the route and the end of the special, the stage will be shortened for a portion of the bikers placed in the second part of the standings, already very tired by this long stage."
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:17:17 am
TeamrhideSA ‏@TeamrhideSA  42s42 seconds ago
Due to rear tire problems @Brian_BB88 could not finish Stage 2 of #Dakar2015 yesterday. Fortunately Hannes is doing very well.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:20:35 am
Via FB:
David yesterday
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 06, 2015, 08:21:42 am
How does 2 top teams choose such different rubber. Excellent pics on adv rider- where is our top dog Dakar scroungers
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:23:37 am
Via FB:
Quick photo update from today. Tough doesn't cover it! Stay tuned for more info but we moved up the order and will start day three together in 81st and 82nd.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:30:30 am
From Darryl:
The longest stage of the @dakar done and dusted, Broadlink KTM's Riaan van Niekerk had a steady day, finishing 12th, he is now 15th overall, listen to all the voice clips and check out the latest images at www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za (http://www.broadlinkktmrally.co.za) KTM Racing
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 08:43:06 am

 #143 Wessel is not on the withdrawal list ?
 SD , what happened to him ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 06, 2015, 08:48:07 am
How does 2 top teams choose such different rubber. Excellent pics on adv rider- where is our top dog Dakar scroungers

The Mini is 4x4 and has a restriction on tire size. The Pug is 2Wd and can use larger tires.

See the size on the Hilux is the same as the Mini, the Pug has the same size as the buggys and Robby Gordans Gordini.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:10:57 am

 #143 Wessel is not on the withdrawal list ?
 SD , what happened to him ?

We don't know yet. Reports have it that part of SS2 for some of the riders has been "neutralized". We are not yet sure how this will affect Wessel, or for that matter if he will be allowed to continue.
A bit frustrating. ASO should ask Alexander to sort out their kak.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:15:44 am
Via Elza Thiart-Botes:

‪#‎Dakar2015‬ - WHAT A DAY (Stage 2 - 5 Jan)
To summarise the second stage of the ‪#‎2015Dakar‬ Rally - it was extremely hot and the route was tough!

It was the longest racing stage - a gruelling 518 kilometres described like THIS in the Broadlink KTM release (see below) : "A staggering 518 Km’s, the longest single special in the rally, proved to be a really tough day for most, with soaring temperatures of up to 42 degrees celcius. The stage started out with some some twisty mountain road stages, then the route turned into more sandy, desert kind of terrain.
Some wide open roads followed with lots of dust, Riaan (van Niekerk) topped his 450 KTM out at 175 Km/h. It was absolutely flat out until refuel two. From there on the route was more challenging with lots of fesh-fesh, with ruts and narrow winding tracks between the bushes, then sandy whooped out sections of around 60 Km’s in total to the finish."
It was a day of mixed results for the South African competitors as the Dakar Rally claimed its first SA victim: Team Rhide SA's Brian Baragwanath (quads)...

Baragwanath suffered from flat tyres halfway through the stage and could unfortunately not continue after both rear tyres on his Yamaha Raptor 700 have disintegrated. He was forced to withdraw.
After a long day in the saddle, his team-mate, Hannes Saaijman, reached the bivouac in 20th place in the quad category (he also suffered from two flat tyres, but carried spare tyres) - he has now moved to the 21st place in this category where 39 of the 45 quads are still on the results.

Van Niekerk had a good day in the motorcycle category and finished the stage in 12th place. He is now 15th overall.

The Zambian, David Reeve (KTM) finished the day in 48th and is now 48th overall while Albert Hintenaus (KTM) finished 68th to be in the 69th place overall. (We could not find Wessel Bosman on the results and will keep you posted with news about him.)

In the CARS:
Giniel de Villiers (Toyota Hilux) finished in an excellent second place (behind Nasser Al-Attiyah in the Mini who is now leading the race) - De Villiers/Von Zitzewitz has now moved to the second place overall.
Their team-mates, Leeroy Poulter/Rob Howie was leading the stage earlier during the day, but experienced damper problems and had to settle for 12th place overall. This team is now 11th overall.
Johan van Staden/Mike Lawrenson (Nissan Navara) finished the stage in 41st place and is now 41st overall.

Now for Stage 3...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:17:38 am
Today's stage:

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/M/CARTE.png)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/M/PROFIL_US.gif)

282km liason, 220km Special, 155km liason to the bivvy for the bikes.

Special for the bikes starts at 08:30 Local time ie 13h30 South African time.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:19:46 am
Some more peechas:

(http://[url=http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/024_dk15_victoreleuterio_020177_g.jpg]http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/024_dk15_victoreleuterio_020177_g.jpg[/url])

(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/008_dk15_victoreleuterio_020127_g.jpg)

(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/059_dk15_gustavoepifanio_020337_g.jpg)

(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/008_dk15_gustavoepifanio_020117_g.jpg)

(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/038_dk15_victoreleuterio_010253_g.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 06, 2015, 09:30:17 am
From Simon Pavey's website, it sounds like yesterday's stage was one of the harshest in Dakar history...


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Toughest Day In Years Tests Simon and Llewelyn

Team SP FiFTYONE battle hard as day two of the 2015 Dakar gets branded the toughest day at the Dakar for many years.

Extremely long hours and incredibly demanding navigation were only the part of problems Team SP FiFTYONE riders Simon and Llewelyn Pavey faced yesterday in day two of the 2015 Dakar.

All competitors suffered in the mighty South American heat, which according to officials peaked at 42 degrees in the afternoon but many competitors were reporting as high as 50 degrees out in the desert.

Navigation was incredibly tough, particularly for the bike riders who face the piste first and often alone. The toughest part of the day, just as the riders were at their most fatigued was the final check point where water packs had long since run dry and the incredibly difficult soft sand, or fesh-fesh, sapped energy.

By his own admission Simon made hard work of the terrain and lost a lot of energy early in the day struggling to feel comfortable in the fesh-fesh sections. The nature of this soft sand requires commitment and speed or life becomes hard work. That energy lost had a dramatic effect on the tough Aussie by the end of the day where he, like many fellow competitors, needed medical attention to regain hydration levels.

It was a case of what could have been for the youngster Llewelyn as he spent much of this, the longest ‘special stage’ of the rally, moving steadily but surely up the leader board. Up as high as 57th position by waypoint 12, from a start position of 84th, things were going well.

Very well in fact where others lost their way in some difficult navigation during the extremely long stage, the Dakar rookie was on course for a great result until a “silly crash” due to tiredness. In an epic sections of soft sand undulations stretching for many kilometres, the number 75 rider hit the deck causing some technical issues with his bike. Loose wires caused the battery to fail and needed fellow competitors to help jump-start the bike many times in the last 40kms, costing Llewelyn a lot of time.

All this on a special stage 518kms long, which you can draw your own comparisons to but give or take it’s roughly the same as Catford to Carlisle off-road.

But this is the Dakar and this is the challenge met by both Simon and Llewelyn as they moved up the running order from their day two start positions. Impressively Simon moved up 14 places to 81st overall while Llewelyn jumps two higher from his start position to 82nd, just behind his father.

Day three promises to be much easier for Team SP FiFTYONE, although a total of 657kms is still a lot of riding and the heat looks set to remain. The team are expecting similar technical riding to yesterday with mountain sections at altitudes above 3000m but the course length will be less demanding. Riders set off at 5am local time on a 218kms predominantly road ride connection to the start of the 220kms day three special.


Simon:
Quote
I wasn’t riding very well this morning. When we got to a stretch of fesh-fesh early on you had to be on your game to ride it well and not make hard work of it and that’s what I did – make hard work of it. There were long ruts and hidden ruts and if you were making mistakes you were going to be slow and it was hard.
And that’s what it was like and that stuck with me all day, it was really hot and if you were using a lot of energy it had a lasting effect mentally and physically.
People were saying it was 50 degrees in the stage, which I don’t know if that’s true but if it’s ballpark then these are tough conditions.
There were lots of people who’ve been on drips tonight and I was the same – I had two.

Llewelyn:
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I started out riding really well actually. It sounds quite silly but I’m quite scared of heights and up in the mountains there were some really big drops so for the first 70kms or so I was a bit scared and bit tentative.

Then after that it went more like what I’m good at really: it was fast, then there was sand and the bike felt awesome and I was catching people and passing them and I was really comfortable.
I had a little crash this morning which was as silly one, I lost a bit of skin but really I’d made up what felt like 15 or 20 places and I was comfortable. I wasn’t really pushing at all, just cruising along and then at the second check point where they stopped the stage I felt fresh like I’d only just warmed up.
Then we started out again, caught a few more people and there was a bit where a lot of people got lost but I got it right, which I was really happy with. I went the right way, I didn’t believe I’d gone the right way but I had!
By then we were 450kms in and I was starting to get a little bit tired. We got to this really fast set of sand whoops, it was just straight and you could see for kilometres. I was trying to attack them because they were big whoops and really hard work if you rode slow – for people in the UK it was like riding The Natterjack for 80kms.
I had a really big crash in there just because I was a bit tired. Not bad, just a silly crash and I ploughed my head into the ground, completely smashed my goggle lens, I lost my helmet peak and it rang my bell a little bit. But just a bit silly really, nothing dramatic.
Unfortunately that caused a really unlucky issue with the cables coming out the regulator rectifier. So the battery would die completely and I didn’t really know what the problem was. I spent ages trying to figure it out with my little electrical tester but just couldn’t source the issue.
With no power coming from the battery it was about twenty minutes before someone would give me a jump-start, in the last 40kms I had to get jump-started the whole way and that took an hour or more.
I’d drank all my water by that stage because I’d been stood in the hot desert for ages.
So I went from a really easy day where I was just cruising and enjoying myself to a day where I made it really hard for myself.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 06, 2015, 09:33:37 am
Today's stage:

282km liason, 220km Special, 155km liason to the bivvy for the bikes.

Special for the bikes starts at 08:30 Local time ie 13h30 South African time.

Late start, short distances: the guys must be absolutely relieved that they don't have to face another day like yesterday!

Of course, the danger is in a combination of lingering fatigue and relaxed mode making for lack of focus.  Hope the guys all make it through safely to hopefully a better rest night!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:34:06 am
"Via JMo"

....The Orga have taken the decision to cut the stage at the second refuel for the remaining bikes, and they will transfer to the bivouac by road (presumably) with a corresponding time penalty.
While that may sound a little unfair for those competitors who did mange the complete distance, what we have to understand is that conditions have deteriorated, and it is now dangerous to allow the bikes to continue when there is a very real risk of heat-stroke, accidents or even death.
Regular followers of the Dakar may recall a similar set of circumstances last year on Day 5, where tragically one rider was fatally overcome with heat exhaustion. ASO will do everything in their power to try and ensure nothing like that happens again this year - and fundamentally of course, those riders who are still out in the field this afternoon are never going to be contenders for a high placed finish anyway - ultimately their race is not against the elite, but against the Dakar itself......

Maybe Wessel will still be able to ride?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 09:40:29 am

 Thanks SD,
 Go Wessel , go !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: sidetrack on January 06, 2015, 09:44:47 am
watch out for Toby Price, if he mages with the navigation he will be a serious threat ! Fast rider  :deal:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:45:56 am
Via FB:
A destroyed rear tyre from Hannes Saaijman's quad...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: weskus on January 06, 2015, 09:48:49 am
Thanks for all the updates Steve, keep them coming..
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TCS on January 06, 2015, 09:50:29 am
Thanks SteveD.... :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:51:35 am
Rallymaniacs

Van PELT, exhausted, laying around for 3 hours without water.

via Google translate, so excuse the wierd language:

Temperatures over 50 degrees Celsius have Robert van Pelt forced to retire in the second stage of the Dakar 2015. The young Knight Dungeon stood for hours in the burning sun and had to be removed by helicopter with severe overheating and any detrimental effects. "It was scary. I was really worried that I would not make it. "

Van Pelt was there, after a disappointing first day, quite keen to put down a good result in the second stage, a competition assay of 518 kilometers. He began as the 45th motorcyclist and quickly managed to catch a man or ten. It was tentative until the temperature began to rise. "It quickly became really hot and 200 kilometers in the special began to drink gasoline. Now the engine may have very high temperatures, but it has the disadvantage that if you need to stop once, it takes a long time to cool down again. I stopped a few times and that took time. But as it gets later, it also gets hotter. I also came back to sit the field. Driving becomes more difficult, because everything is broken and you drove into the dust of slower riders will ride. "

Taking advantage of wind to cool, so could not and the problems piled up for Van Pelt. In the dust, at a pace that was not his, he did not come through the fesh-fesh it. For that soft, loose stuff is just a bit rate required. Without the engine speed drops into the dust. "At 400 kilometers, the pipe was pretty empty. I am a couple of times hard cases and when my water ran out, I called the organization. They said they would come right away, but eventually lasted three hours. All this time I was for pampus in the burning sun, without water. I have every ten minutes, call the organization. It was scary. I was really scared. You can not do anything. On cold you can wear, it does not heat up. There was no shade, I had no water. "

The first helicopter arrived, was that of Dakar director Etienne Lavigne. Who insisted that Van Pelt would be taken to the nearest hastily equipped field hospital. From there Pelt was placed on a drip to administer him moisture. "It was a tent in the middle of the trial and it was full of guys who were dehydrated and were overheated. It was a battlefield and unfortunately I was there too. "

The organization explained afternoon the competition for motorcyclists quiet, but that made for Van Pelt all anymore. "They had the game need much earlier shut down because it was too hot and too heavy."

Once in the bivouac in San Juan, Van Pelt or passable refurbished, but after being discharged with the helicopter is finally over and close, even if the race is neutralized. "That's the Dakar. I'm sick of. Mega disappointed. On day one I did not show it on day 2 and I'm out. That's not good. "
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:55:39 am
At the very, very bottom of today's starting list:

BOSMAN WESSEL (ZAF)  10:21:30   

 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Scooterbike on January 06, 2015, 09:56:30 am
"Via JMo"

....The Orga have taken the decision to cut the stage at the second refuel for the remaining bikes, and they will transfer to the bivouac by road (presumably) with a corresponding time penalty.
While that may sound a little unfair for those competitors who did mange the complete distance, what we have to understand is that conditions have deteriorated, and it is now dangerous to allow the bikes to continue when there is a very real risk of heat-stroke, accidents or even death.
Regular followers of the Dakar may recall a similar set of circumstances last year on Day 5, where tragically one rider was fatally overcome with heat exhaustion. ASO will do everything in their power to try and ensure nothing like that happens again this year - and fundamentally of course, those riders who are still out in the field this afternoon are never going to be contenders for a high placed finish anyway - ultimately their race is not against the elite, but against the Dakar itself......

Maybe Wessel will still be able to ride?

Will this help Brian??
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dwerg on January 06, 2015, 09:59:39 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 06, 2015, 10:14:14 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

Yip, my thoughts exactly. Where have you seen they completely omit the "Dakar" word from the final graphic of the TV coverage...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 06, 2015, 10:20:48 am
"Via JMo"

....The Orga have taken the decision to cut the stage at the second refuel for the remaining bikes, and they will transfer to the bivouac by road (presumably) with a corresponding time penalty.
While that may sound a little unfair for those competitors who did mange the complete distance, what we have to understand is that conditions have deteriorated, and it is now dangerous to allow the bikes to continue when there is a very real risk of heat-stroke, accidents or even death.
Regular followers of the Dakar may recall a similar set of circumstances last year on Day 5, where tragically one rider was fatally overcome with heat exhaustion. ASO will do everything in their power to try and ensure nothing like that happens again this year - and fundamentally of course, those riders who are still out in the field this afternoon are never going to be contenders for a high placed finish anyway - ultimately their race is not against the elite, but against the Dakar itself......

Maybe Wessel will still be able to ride?

Will this help Brian??


Think he is out completely. ..
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 06, 2015, 10:24:00 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

Yip, my thoughts exactly. Where have you seen they completely omit the "Dakar" word from the final graphic of the TV coverage...

WOW... Interesting observation! So who will start the real Dakar in Africa again?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 10:24:42 am
Brian is on the withdrawal list. No way back from there, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dwerg on January 06, 2015, 10:30:05 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

Yip, my thoughts exactly. Where have you seen they completely omit the "Dakar" word from the final graphic of the TV coverage...

WOW... Interesting observation! So who will start the real Dakar in Africa again?

Well.... There is this one (http://www.africarace.com/fr/?lang=en)  ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 06, 2015, 10:30:48 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

Yip, my thoughts exactly. Where have you seen they completely omit the "Dakar" word from the final graphic of the TV coverage...

WOW... Interesting observation! So who will start the real Dakar in Africa again?

Already started something similar.

The Africa Eco Race, Starts in Spain ends in Dakar, Senegal

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=165610.20 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=165610.20)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 11:00:45 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/m6yx2le9Atg

https://www.youtube.com/v/K-kGhLa2Nfc

https://www.youtube.com/v/x5VQIfF7MBc

https://www.youtube.com/v/fFrofe5Rfqw
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 11:02:40 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/hOD0XhIeCN0

https://www.youtube.com/v/hz_LH8RS2zk
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: wiledog_X on January 06, 2015, 11:04:12 am
Riaan's off yesterday…. Sunday [fixed]  :thumleft:  lucky man!  :-[  looks like the guys miss that corner because of all the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6Hp8xvc3I#t=34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6Hp8xvc3I#t=34)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 06, 2015, 11:05:43 am
.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 06, 2015, 11:34:58 am
Boys am i deur die kak, ignorent or plainly slow.....but where is our Wilddog legend Brett Cummings?

Sitting on the same side of the Dakar as you are for this year. Motivated more than ever for Dakar 2016!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 11:43:21 am
Riaan's off yesterday…. Sunday [fixed]  :thumleft:  lucky man!  :-[  looks like the guys miss that corner because of all the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6Hp8xvc3I#t=34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6Hp8xvc3I#t=34)

you slow boet  ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 11:45:05 am
Sitting on the same side of the Dakar as you are for this year. Motivated more than ever for Dakar 2016!

 :hello:
So for us keyboard junkies, what is it like to race a few hundred km's in >50 degree heat? Sounds like yesterday was a bit of an epic.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 06, 2015, 12:00:32 pm
@ Brett the race is definitely the poorer without u there  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 06, 2015, 12:10:24 pm
Anyone got the pic of Laurent's bike? Nasty accident!  :o  I do not think we can comprehend what it is like to ride a bike in those conditions and with cars and trucks up ones ass and on top of one.  :eek7:

Brett, you online? I seem to recall you did a stage in 50 degree heat, and ended up on a drip?

Back online

Stage 5 last year was 50 degrees and I remember many of the dakar legends saying that it was the toughest stage in the history of the Dakar in South America.
50 degrees is fine if you are moving at 50-60km/h but on that stage we were only able to dodge the scrub and get through the really soft dunes at about 20-30km/h and then you overheat badly.
I landed up on a drip that evening as well.
(https://www.facebook.com/Rallyerider/photos/pb.134601233292545.-2207520000.1420538980./567177923368205/?type=3&theater)

This was the same stage that Eric Palante (Not sure of the spelling) passed away, HRC Paulo Goncalves bike went up in flames etc.

Below is the link of another competitor who dehydrated badly on stage 5 last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxVuM1lq0MQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxVuM1lq0MQ)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 06, 2015, 12:25:19 pm
@ Brett the race is definitely the poorer without u there  :thumleft:
:thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KiLRoy on January 06, 2015, 12:29:37 pm
Boys am i deur die kak, ignorent or plainly slow.....but where is our Wilddog legend Brett Cummings?

Sitting on the same side of the Dakar as you are for this year. Motivated more than ever for Dakar 2016!

sorry to hear mate - what went wrong?

at least you can give us peanut gallery an inside commentary of this years Dakar?  Any comms links with any of the okes?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dustman on January 06, 2015, 12:46:55 pm
Giniel eerste deur WP1, 8 sekondes voor Al-Attiyah

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 01:18:26 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10307166_360840340765257_1950531987291844306_n.png?oh=084d81f068997dd2d6422cb603319b02&oe=556E552E&__gda__=1429534102_4849d936ff197190620cb79f59e8f2be)

Um, Mr Despres, you try any of that at Amageza and you'll be on the wrong end of a farmer's shotgun   :ORGR:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 01:31:16 pm
The time has come...

Gooi mielies !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: zetman on January 06, 2015, 01:39:03 pm
Eish ja wragtag hoop hy kry n moerse penalty is daar nie reels wat keer vir die tipe ding  :patch:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: A/T on January 06, 2015, 01:41:59 pm
Eish no wonder the international Soyabean price went up last night.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 01:48:44 pm
Riaan would have just started....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 06, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
The time has come...

Gooi mielies !

Laat wiel perre!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 01:51:38 pm
Via FB:
THIS is how it happened - message from Brian Baragwanath:
"Thx guys. Hannes was there to support with the spare. Just after I checked the tire for major damage I told Hannes to go ahead. 2 sec later a sidewall cut burst open and revealed itself just too late for me to call him again. Good lessons learnt. All is looking great with Hannes - hopefully all the gremlins are out! Thx every one for the support"
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 02:06:50 pm
Via FB:
THIS is how it happened - message from Brian Baragwanath:
"Thx guys. Hannes was there to support with the spare. Just after I checked the tire for major damage I told Hannes to go ahead. 2 sec later a sidewall cut burst open and revealed itself just too late for me to call him again. Good lessons learnt. All is looking great with Hannes - hopefully all the gremlins are out! Thx every one for the support"
What a shame  >:(
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 02:08:02 pm
Tom Coronel ‏@TomCoronel  · 7m7 minutes ago 
I finally arrived in the bivouac! Getting ready to start SS3!

Really tuff out there....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 02:15:03 pm
Riaan should be coming up to WP1 soon...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 02:15:17 pm
 Geniel 2nd through WP2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 02:21:35 pm
Geniel 2nd through WP2
According to Rally Raid he is at WP4 and in 1st place .... gooi Div... :laughing4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 02:22:17 pm
Riaan at WP1 !   14th so far, might drop a bit as other riders arrive
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 02:24:20 pm
Riaan at WP1 !   14th so far, might drop a bit as other riders arrive

Sam's going to want to roost him  :ricky:

edit: looks like happened already, Laia and Sam low flying … R down to 22 but early in the day still!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 02:32:14 pm
 Oops
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 06, 2015, 02:53:36 pm
WP2: Not a good sector for Riaan, dropping about 2'40"
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 02:54:33 pm
WP2: Not a good sector for Riaan, dropping about 2'40"

 s'true
David at WP1, started 49th and now 50th -> still nice and steady
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 02:57:04 pm
From Darryl:
My Broadlink KTM office today at Dakar thanks to Sat 4 Rent and Inmarsat @shanacoates we are on our way to Chileci
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 02:57:28 pm
Darryl Curtis ‏@DarrylCurtisSA  · 4m4 minutes ago  
My Broadlink KTM office today at Dakar thanks to Sat 4 Rent and Inmarsat @shanacoates we are on our way to Chilecito pic.twitter.com/8xePruUMgr
Darryl Curtis "

Nice office  ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 06, 2015, 03:04:13 pm
Can someone with lots of moola please come forward and then send Darryl and Riaan to do the complete Rally season for a year or 2 and then we will really see this team kick some ass in Dakar
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 03:04:47 pm
Albert at WP1
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 03:20:41 pm
Meanwhile, Wessel is getting ready to start the Special, stone last  in 148th place of the some 7 billion people who dream of riding Dakar, which puts him in the top 0.000002%
 :notworthy:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 03:30:07 pm
Big timing dump.
Riaan at WP3, 21st.
David at WP2, 50th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 03:32:51 pm
Gilly via FB:
Internet sporadic but on route to chilecito and cross to chile in morning. Guys I cannot access FB messenger until I find wifi so I can't see your messages.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: KTM Jagermeister on January 06, 2015, 03:33:14 pm
Saayman 11' at CP1  .. and who is the girl behind Riaan?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Scooterbike on January 06, 2015, 03:39:14 pm
seems Geniel is now 1st overall, 3rd for the day.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 03:43:27 pm
This is why Cesare Zacchetti is on the withdrawal list. Ouch

 ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 03:47:05 pm
seems Geniel is now 1st overall, 3rd for the day.

Keep it up Div  :laughing4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 06, 2015, 03:50:00 pm
I wonder what happened to Leeroy Poulter (ZAF Toyota) - seems he lost about 45 minutes before the first WP?

Riaan hanging steady.  Good.  I guess he's using his brains and conserving his bike so he can start moving up during next week, when the wear and tear on man and machine starts to take its toll.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 03:50:35 pm
Riaan thu WP4, 21st
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 04:09:37 pm
Amageza

Dakar, Stage 3... #103 David Reeve from Zambia is also having a tough day today... falling back 10 positions for the stage, over the first 2 waypoints.

Come on David...maybe start a  :wav: for David....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: madmax on January 06, 2015, 04:11:41 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 06, 2015, 04:13:02 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something
They attempted too, the name dakar and the logo are patented and trademarked to the ASO.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 06, 2015, 04:16:08 pm
Amageza

#303 Giniel De Villiers had a perfect start taking the lead of the stage after waypoint 1, but had to give some of this back during the Dakar Stage 3, to finish second behind #305 Orlando Terranova.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 04:17:04 pm
Wessel through WP1
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 04:23:14 pm
 
 #303 Leeroy having a bad day
 #383 Johan ?
 #125 Albert ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 06, 2015, 04:24:40 pm
Giniel shaved two minutes off Nasser's lead today.  Now just over 5min behind (in 2nd overall).  Looks like the Toyotas are up to speed this year!  The Pugs are also beginning to make progress.  Peterhansel and Despres lurking...  Mistake: the Pugs are falling further behind.  :P
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 04:25:41 pm
 Riaan through WP5 in 15th it seems
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 04:28:04 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something

That is incredibly disengenous if not just dof - how can you even start to compare Youssou N'Dour and Zuma ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 06, 2015, 04:30:52 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something

That is incredibly disengenous if not just dof - how can you even start to compare Youssou N'Dour and Zuma ???
Hey Prof, you can't use words like that on a bike forum FFS man, I had to google the meaning.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 06, 2015, 04:33:18 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something

That is incredibly disengenous if not just dof - how can you even start to compare Youssou N'Dour and Zuma ???

Ja, Youssou N'Dour even made a song with Piet Botha (Jackhammer).  Can you imagine Zouma doing that?   :imaposer:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2015, 04:36:04 pm
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something

That is incredibly disengenous if not just dof - how can you even start to compare Youssou N'Dour and Zuma ???
Hey Prof, you can't use words like that on a bike forum FFS man, I had to google the meaning.


 :lol8:  knew that would have some fooked … that is why I translated … 'dof'
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 04:41:55 pm
Riaan at the finish, showing 19th now but will probably be 21nd or 22nd soon
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 06, 2015, 04:53:31 pm
Riaan at the finish, showing 19th now but will probably be 21nd or 22nd soon

Stage position 20
Overall position 15

Nice steady ride.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 05:06:17 pm
Guillaume Martens on SS3
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 05:08:22 pm
Damn!! Missed it all.  :xxbah:

Work sucks.

Thanks for the updates guys.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 05:12:13 pm
David at WP5 in 49th  :blob6:
And Wessel at WP2, 133rd and pretty close to the back :thumleft:

I worry that the infamous snowball is going to catch him......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 05:12:40 pm
Wessel Bosman still on WP1 ???   ???

Timing glitch or problems for Wessel?

Anyone got info?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 05:15:31 pm
Wessel Bosman still on WP1 ???   ???

He just arrived at WP2, but he is taking his time......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 05:15:53 pm
David at WP5 in 49th  :blob6:
And Wessel at WP2, 133rd and pretty close to the back :thumleft:

I worry that the infamous snowball is going to catch him......

Ok, see now he's at WP2.

Snowballs a bitch when it gets you. He needs to tough it out till rest day ( said from the comfort of my armchair )
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 05:27:39 pm
Hannes Saaijman seems to be doing well. If he keeps at his current pace he should pick up a few places for tomorrow's start. Currently he's in 16th spot at WP4
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 05:35:08 pm
From anniedakar.wordpress.com:

The first 400 km I drove just great. But we had to stay behind our team fellows and it went slow.
The last 1oo km was fesh-fesh vegetation, tracks in sand and everybody got stuck.
We helped our mates but then the clutch slipped. Paul tried to fix it, but driving was heavy in the sandy tracks. We struggled hard on about 100 km, got even towed by some other car to some 40 km from finish – then we got stuck on a sandy track uphill. Could not proceed anymore, had to spend the night outdoors.
In the morning the cluth had cooled and worked a little better. We went on with great effort. We also let air out of tires to make it upphill in the sand.
Now we are at the bivouac. And we can continue to the next stage! We have 2 hours for service, then we hit the road again.


According to ADV, there are 46 cars still to START on today's stage.
Big balls required.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 05:36:17 pm
David just got the the ASS, 51st.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:32:50 pm
Hell dont have much time this year  ::)

Well done to Walkner - shows what ex MX guys can do  :biggrin: :thumleft:

Dont think anyone has posted a video of Robbie's brakes on fire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUK6GbbeW20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUK6GbbeW20)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:35:31 pm
From the man himself:

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Walkner

“I've won it for the moment, but there are just five riders who arrived, I think. Marc is coming, Sam is coming, some fast guys are coming, so we will see. The riding was not so bad. I made some little mistakes because it was a little bit dangerous today with many stones and it forced you over the limit, but overall it was quite good. It's cool, but he went out in front. The important thing in rallying is to navigate well or open the tracks and also be fast. We will see. It's my first rally and I hope I can enjoy it. After this we can see what the future brings. I'm just doing my best, finding my rhythm and taking it every kilometre by kilometre. I know a little bit about how you have to ride the motorcycle from doing moto-cross, but the different part is the navigation and finding the good way to ride safely, to not make mistakes and go fast”.
__________________
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:37:42 pm
Apparently this is the way to get the France 4 coverage?

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25785855&postcount=2 (http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25785855&postcount=2)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:41:03 pm
Nice pic of Mr Sunderalnd on day 1

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/100/137.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:45:03 pm
Great pic of the pits  :thumleft:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6ns8bQCUAElYoP.jpg:large)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:48:14 pm
Nice video of the Geniel and the Toyotas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ6p9uI2Rmw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ6p9uI2Rmw)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 06:49:37 pm
Just realized I'm missing Rynet this year  :thumleft:  Plus the other regular posters seem very quiet?

Maybe we are all busy this year?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 07:08:13 pm
Albert is in, 73rd
Wessel hopefully coming up to WP4
 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 07:12:07 pm
That puts Albert in 3rd place in Malle Moto,  17 minutes behind 2nd and 50 minutes behind the leader.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:15:54 pm
Albert is in, 73rd
Wessel hopefully coming up to WP4
 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

Go Wessel! :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 07:18:42 pm
Via FB:
David is home and stuck to the plan. As I said early this morning a sensible ride would be indicated by his maintaining position. It is too early to be 100% sure, but I do not expect him to move from P48.
His stage position will be around P55/56, but it is the time that matters and those who made up 4 minutes looked as if they had jumped, but overall it made no real difference in the big scheme of things.
Another big tick in the box from our metronome. (Not Metro-Gnome)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:22:49 pm
The Yamaha's seem to be way off the pace this year?

I wonder if that's just because they dont have alien input this time round?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 07:23:00 pm
Wessel through WP4
 :wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:28:50 pm
Just looking at the overall positions and I see that Laia is only 3 seconds behind Riaan  :eek7: :biggrin:

That woman can ride!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:32:00 pm
Seems yesterday's stage was even tougher for the cars?

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DAKAR RALLY ‏@dakar 5m5 minutes ago

34 cars were not able to start this morning / 34 autos no puederon comenzar la carrera esta mañana...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:45:20 pm
Neduro talking about Goncalves on AdvRoder

Quote
Gonçalves story from 2012, when he was on a speedbrain Husky...

A day later in the race, I don't recall which one, we were riding in dunes. Gonçalves had a huge off early in the day, his bars were bent 30+ degrees (throttle side especially), everything was shagged, he had to be hurting. I had passed him somewhere on the track...

He passed me back toward the end of the dunes, riding essentially one handed with something that more resembled an outboard motor tiller than a motorcycle bar. His lines were great, so I resolved to try to stay with him... and couldn't. Partly due to motor, but mostly due to skill, he could stick turns at speeds I just could not, even with his compromised bike and, no doubt, body.

It was a moment where I gained an immense amount of appreciation for the elevated level these guys ride at. Everyone who rides, I think, has had a moment when somebody showed them a door to another level, this was one of those moments for me.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:47:43 pm
Is it just me, or has Wessel dropped off the Dutch tracking site?

Cant seem to find him listed?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 07:55:13 pm
Awfully quiet in here?

Just tried the France 4 link I got from AdvRider and it doesn't work!  Bloody pity because their coverage is usually superb.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:04:30 pm
Is it just me, or has Wessel dropped off the Dutch tracking site?
Cant seem to find him listed?

I still see him.......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 06, 2015, 08:06:55 pm

 Vasbyt Wessel !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 08:09:18 pm
Is it just me, or has Wessel dropped off the Dutch tracking site?
Cant seem to find him listed?

I still see him.......

So he's still going.  

Good.  
For some reason which I have yet to understand he doesnt show at all on mine even when I try and select him alone  ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:18:36 pm
From Matthias Walkner's FB page:

The impressions of the victory: "the today's stage was very fast at the beginning and easier to navigate. I had a lot of fun and was in a good flow. Km 150, there was then more difficult. We drove through a river with many ball stones and holes.
Then, the stage almost 3500 meters went up and back through a dried-out Riverbed down. It was very hard to find a good and safe trail. Once I fell over shortly, while the throttle is stuck shortly. Km 180 I then started making mistakes and 200 I took back a little and it went better.

Extremely horny  :ricky: that I won the stage. I have noticed that I was quick and if everything fits would I expect with a top 3 place but win?! It has now just matched everything.

Tomorrow will be a real challenge. There is no simple stage, 100 KM through sand, hard to navigate and I start first. Sam Sunderland is started after his stage win first as he has lost 2 hours. This will be so really hard for me. I am expecting nothing, come only in the top 15.

Physically I'm fine, but I see, that it is harder and I'm getting tired in the head. It has + 33 degrees at night and under tags even over 40, I'm sleeping a maximum of 4-5 hours of sleep deprivation is already zach. But I recognize that it will be even harder. Tomorrow we start again at 4:30 but I'm on it. LG from Argentina, Essam"
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:29:31 pm
While we wait....
....will a true rallye rider please decode this?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 08:34:42 pm
Via Marc Coma FB:

It was a pretty good stage, I felt comfortable. Tomorrow we are heading to Chile and we’ll try our best.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 08:35:37 pm
Quote
Extremely horny  that I won the stage.
 :biggrin: ::) 8) O0 :sip: :3some:




Quote
Tomorrow will be a real challenge. There is no simple stage, 100 KM through sand, hard to navigate and I start first.

Will be interesting to see how he copes with navigation.  He did quite well so far for his first Dakar  8) :ricky:


Quote
Physically I'm fine, but I see, that it is harder and I'm getting tired in the head. It has + 33 degrees at night and under tags even over 40, I'm sleeping a maximum of 4-5 hours of sleep deprivation is already zach. But I recognize that it will be even harder. Tomorrow we start again at 4:30 but I'm on it.

Its only the third day!  Hope he acclimatises to the routine faster - cant be easy though.  Especially if you are not one of those strange people that actually get up readily before dawn in an irritatingly happy mood  :P
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 06, 2015, 08:43:22 pm
The FR4 coverage is great...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:03:57 pm
Ah Hah!

Managed to convince the Dutch site to show me Wessel!

He's through WP5  :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:04:50 pm
Wessel jou doring!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:18:20 pm
Via FB:
Hannes completed Stage 3 in 22nd place (he posted great times during the day) and has kept his 21st place overall in the QUADS, only 27 seconds behind #257!
Stage 3 was probably one of the most scenic in this year’s event and took riders northwards along the line of the Andes. They had to negotiate their way through red earth tracks and canyons and spent much of their time in rocky riverbeds.
Tomorrow: Stage Four sees the route leave Argentina and enter Chile as riders head from Chilecito to Copiapó. They have to travel 909km, 315km of timed special stges and the characteristics and geography will change dramatically as they enter the Atacama Desert and have to attack the dunes.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 06, 2015, 09:21:42 pm
Anyone know the issue 418 French team was having, that FR4 kept focussing on?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: 4 Kays on January 06, 2015, 09:25:13 pm
 :thumleft: for keeping us posted
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:29:06 pm
Anyone know the issue 418 French team was having, that FR4 kept focussing on?

How are you getting France 4?  Been trying all sorts of things without success.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kamanya on January 06, 2015, 09:31:24 pm
While we wait....
....will a true rallye rider please decode this?

At 176.something, the route summits once having passed between two ridges. However just before it, there is a caution of a steep down that is twisty, getting more dangerous, is bad and has ruts.

The S means twisty
E3 means narrow
the arrow pointing down means steep down hill
MVS means Bad

178.03

Has a few I don't know - RP, ET and RIO

But I suspect that it is an off route section, probably following a tributary.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:37:34 pm
Wessel judt finished.
 :wav: :wav: :wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:38:21 pm
While we wait....
....will a true rallye rider please decode this?

You asked for a true rallye rider so I kept quiet  :P

I see Kamanya has answered below.

Here's Neduro's relpy as well
Quote
wrk2surf has posted the cheat sheet, I'll just add a little color to that.

The double exclamation point means pay attention, although combined with the narrow marking, it often means that there are only two wheel tracks and one of them is rough.

A single means there is some level of risk, but nothing that is likely to catch you out. Three !!! means it will really get you, four happens perhaps once per rally.

If the section is shared between cars and bikes, I didn't bother to highlight single marks, there are so many and they typically turned out to be so trivial on the ground, really more of a concern for a 2-track vehicle.

The peaks shown on either side are a nice clue, they don't make sense in isolation but often when you arrive at the point you think "ah-ha!". Same with the ruts off to the left, and small trail entering from behind right. Just confirmation of location.

Downhill/ twisty/ narrow/ bad conditions... yup, so is everywhere else... I imagine the fast guys adjust pace to these notes but at my speed, I didn't sweat these details too much other than as confirmation of being in the right place.

As soon as I recognize the peaks, I would have rolled this off my roadbook screen, started estimating how many meters I had left of the 1930 before turning into the riverbed, and been focused on the next few instructions anywhere I could look away from the trail ahead for a moment. The key is always having your brain a few steps ahead, so that you aren't caught out. As each thing arrives, you think "ah, got it", and take it off your list and load another point a few out into your mental map.

At least, that's the theory. It doesn't always go like that.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:39:16 pm
Wessel judt finished.
 :wav: :wav: :wav:

Yay!  Well done Wessel  O0
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 09:43:21 pm
Wessel judt finished.
 :wav: :wav: :wav:

Yay!  Well done Wessel  O0

Just got in.

Did I mention work sucks?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:44:28 pm
Some poor Swedish guy called Carl  Calle Carl (EDIT: it seems that Calle is someone different to Carl - this is the problem with speed reading different sites :biggrin:, will have to wait for confirmation of whats what I think) on a 690 is stuck out in the desert with a seized fuel pump, he can see the lights of the sweeper truck apparently.

The AdvRider guys are trying to help him out

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by 640 Armageddon  View Post
Can he reach the housing on the 690 ?

If I remember the sweeper truck does not have to take you to the bivvy (not a ''must'' I mean) . You can battle it out no?
The 690 in stock form uses a fuel pump mounted in the bottom of the tank..but inside the tank. this is a high pressure pump. any transfer pump from the front tanks is going to be a low pressure pump and the bike wont run on that.


The pumps are small and they need clean fuel. If it is blowing fuses the pump is likely seized or seizing...hence the suggestion to reverse the leads. I would try tapping on the underside of the pump mount with a hammer to see if he could dislodge the impeller.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 06, 2015, 09:45:34 pm
While we wait....
....will a true rallye rider please decode this?

Looks like......

Abbreviations:
And
Single caution, down hill,twisty, narrow
Double caution, Bad

Picture: Single caution, ruts on left, narrow, twisty

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 09:45:54 pm
While we wait....
....will a true rallye rider please decode this?

You asked for a true rallye rider so I kept quiet  :P

I see Kamanya has answered below.

Here's Neduro's relpy as well
Quote
wrk2surf has posted the cheat sheet, I'll just add a little color to that.

The double exclamation point means pay attention, although combined with the narrow marking, it often means that there are only two wheel tracks and one of them is rough.

A single means there is some level of risk, but nothing that is likely to catch you out. Three !!! means it will really get you, four happens perhaps once per rally.

If the section is shared between cars and bikes, I didn't bother to highlight single marks, there are so many and they typically turned out to be so trivial on the ground, really more of a concern for a 2-track vehicle.

The peaks shown on either side are a nice clue, they don't make sense in isolation but often when you arrive at the point you think "ah-ha!". Same with the ruts off to the left, and small trail entering from behind right. Just confirmation of location.

Downhill/ twisty/ narrow/ bad conditions... yup, so is everywhere else... I imagine the fast guys adjust pace to these notes but at my speed, I didn't sweat these details too much other than as confirmation of being in the right place.

As soon as I recognize the peaks, I would have rolled this off my roadbook screen, started estimating how many meters I had left of the 1930 before turning into the riverbed, and been focused on the next few instructions anywhere I could look away from the trail ahead for a moment. The key is always having your brain a few steps ahead, so that you aren't caught out. As each thing arrives, you think "ah, got it", and take it off your list and load another point a few out into your mental map.

At least, that's the theory. It doesn't always go like that.


(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsbecaf30b.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zpsbecaf30b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:49:26 pm
Ag no, the guy on the beautiful LC-450 is out. Sweeper just picked him up.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 06, 2015, 09:51:23 pm
Oh Bugger  :'(

Quote
I want you guys to hear it first.

Just got off the phone with Davis from Raid Designs.

Calle is out.

Orga have picked him up and removed his Iritrack.

Bike will be collected by chopper as the sweep truck is 200kms away and would not be going near to the LC4-50 is currently located.

It's over.

Jx
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 06, 2015, 09:55:33 pm
So what do RP, ET and RIO stand for?  ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 10:06:40 pm
ET IS FRENCH FOR "AND"
RIO I "PRESUME IS RIVER
NOT SURE ABOUT "RP"?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 10:16:00 pm
RT - Maybe it means Rio Piste- river track ? dunno,me thinks
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 06, 2015, 10:20:52 pm
thanks again for everyone keeping this thread updated!!
i'm armchairing this Dakar with all the endurance I have . . .  :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 06, 2015, 10:28:02 pm
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g449/alli082/DAKAR%202015/file_zps0f0f5a08.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/alli082/media/DAKAR%202015/file_zps0f0f5a08.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:31:42 am
OK, so it looks like the Carl that had the 690 fuel pump issues is Carl Hagenblad.

(http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu281/ktmmitch111/Dakar%202015/0983103e-5b02-4ec3-8351-0f76f6740d80_zpsc7593b0a.jpg)

Sounds like he didn't make it!

And it seems that Carl = Calle (bit confusing?)

Quote
This is correct. I've just spoken to David.

The Fuel pump failed, and he replaced it with the spare, but that failed too - most likely an electrical problem/short circuit somewhere, as the fuses kept blowing.

He tried everything he could think of to fix it, but nothing worked.

The problem today of course is it was a bike-only stage, so no cars or trucks following who might have been able to give a tow.

Anders Berglund tried to tow him, but the terrain was too difficult and the strap kept breaking .

As more and more riders passed that point, in turn Calle was the last one out there, and eventually the Orga came to him and said he had no choice now but to withdraw.

The sweep truck was 200kms away, so the bike will be recovered by helicopter. Calle got a ride with the Orga presumably.

Jx.
_____

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:32:53 am
Nice one of Barreda

(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10888928_361141550735136_1614546827215486766_n.png?oh=8dd19c7b6cb31357f888d563aa8f15a8&oe=552F861D)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:37:45 am
From Dakar.com - 14km before the end of the special!

Michal Hernik dies

6th january 2015


The Polish bike rider Michal Hernik (no. 82) was found dead on the selective section of the third stage of the rally between San Juan and Chilecito at kilometre 206.

The circumstances surrounding his death have yet to be determined, as the competitor did not show any external signs of an accident.

When the race management detected the loss of his Irritrack signal and was informed that he had not completed the special stage at 15:16, it decided to start a search for the rider at 15:23. An ambulance helicopter found the rider 300 meters off the route at 16:03. Unfortunately, the on-board doctor could only confirm the rider's death.


At 39 years of age, Michal was taking part in the Dakar for the first time and he was in 84th position in the general ranking. He had previously participated in the Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge in 2014 and the Morocco Rally in 2013, both of which he completed.


The whole Dakar family offers its condolences to Michal's family, close friends and team.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:39:55 am
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That's Mr. Sugawara (73), and this is his 31st Dakar!  He's raced all three classes, ever since 1983. I remember Jonah saying he was a good friend to him in the Dakars, so he's been on my root-for list each year. His son races too, this year he's driving truck 516.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:40:43 am
From Riaan via FB:

Sorry for nog posting more. But life in the bivouac is busy. Struggling a bit with the speed. Think it's just not enough race saddle time. The pace up front is really fast and everyone is on there game. The team and the support back home had been absolutely great. Still early days in the race so lots can happen. Crossing over to Chile tomorrow. Going to be cold. Thaks for the support guys. Really appreciated it
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:44:07 am
From Dakar.com - 14km before the end of the special!

Michal Hernik dies

6th january 2015


The Polish bike rider Michal Hernik (no. 82) was found dead on the selective section of the third stage of the rally between San Juan and Chilecito at kilometre 206.

The circumstances surrounding his death have yet to be determined, as the competitor did not show any external signs of an accident.

When the race management detected the loss of his Irritrack signal and was informed that he had not completed the special stage at 15:16, it decided to start a search for the rider at 15:23. An ambulance helicopter found the rider 300 meters off the route at 16:03. Unfortunately, the on-board doctor could only confirm the rider's death.


At 39 years of age, Michal was taking part in the Dakar for the first time and he was in 84th position in the general ranking. He had previously participated in the Abu Dhabi Desert Challenge in 2014 and the Morocco Rally in 2013, both of which he completed.


The whole Dakar family offers its condolences to Michal's family, close friends and team.

Oh No  :'(

I love this race but each year I wonder why when I read stuff like this!

Yesterday's stage wasn't as hard as the day before and it wasn't as hot, so wonder what happened?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 06:45:58 am
Michel Hernik = His official profile on the Dakar site details a short story of friendship between himself and fellow Polish riders Pawel Stasiaczek and Norbert Madetko – all of whom had a common dream to compete in the world’s toughest rally.

Ultimately, Hernik and Stasiaczek were able to reach the start this year in Buenos Aires as teammates. Both of their profiles carry the following: “Getting ready [for] Dakar took us two years…In terms of amateurs, our goal will be to complete the rally, whatever the position. That would be our success.

“Our most powerful asset is our friendship and mutual support in difficult moments after heavy days. This is due to our common dream and the adventure we lived to prepare for the Dakar…”
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:46:35 am
Today's stage
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 06:47:20 am
Never nice to hear about a death on the Dakar, even though it is an extreme event.
Rest in peace Michal.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dwerg on January 07, 2015, 06:52:23 am
RT - Maybe it means Rio Piste- river track ? dunno,me thinks

I think RP indicates the change from road to track. Solid line to dotted line? Possibly. I got lost a lot on Amageza so certainly don't take my word for it  ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:52:43 am
Must admit lost a bit of enthusiasm for the whole thing now...

But suppose the show must go on  :-\
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:54:49 am
On a brighter note, here's the daily pic of Laia

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6s5QmyIcAEZqra.jpg)

Even she agrees that Johnny Cambel has balls to sit beside Robbie!

Laia Sanz ‏@LaiaSanz_ 6h6 hours ago

Look who I bumped into... my friend @JCRHonda. Very happy to see him! He’s brave to go aside to @RobbyGordon 😝 @dakar
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 06:59:10 am
Another one of her getting some physio  :thumleft:

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:01:23 am
And one more for luck!

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:03:17 am
I thought the organisation supplied facilities like showers etc?

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:06:43 am
Competitors queuing to get into the pits

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:10:37 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6slpNFIUAEJse4.jpg:large)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: ktmpilot on January 07, 2015, 07:12:32 am
ET IS FRENCH FOR "AND"
RIO I "PRESUME IS RIVER
NOT SURE ABOUT "RP"?

RP means "Route Principale" in French.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 07:29:04 am
ET IS FRENCH FOR "AND"
RIO I "PRESUME IS RIVER
NOT SURE ABOUT "RP"?

RP means "Route Principale" in French.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

AAHHH!!!
Thanks for that Ktmpilot ;)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 07:36:21 am
 
 " Main Route" then ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:38:52 am
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Toby Price #26 – “It was a little bit tricky today. We’re still having a little bit of drama with the road-book, bits and pieces with the bearings, the headings and stuff. So, when we get to those sections we’re just cruising and when it‘s pretty easy navigation it’s good. We’re just trying to stay on two wheels and getting to the finishing line, that’s the main goal. I didn’t expect to be at this level straight away, but I know I can ride the bike well as long as the navigation is not extremely difficult we can get through pretty good. We’re just cruising through and trying to make no mistakes, stay on two wheels and make no navigation errors. Hopefully that will be what gets me to the finishing line. That’s my main goal so I’m not too worried about positions and everything at the moment. I’m definitely enjoying my first Dakar and it’s looking good. The first part of the stage for about 120 km was really fast. I enjoy high speed stuff – the faster the better – but when the navigation gets a bit tougher I take my time just so I don’t do another 30 km extra than I should be doing for the day, just to make sure we’re getting through in one piece.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 07:40:24 am
RIAAN
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 07:43:00 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/iT_W-tXNE8o
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kawaki on January 07, 2015, 07:43:00 am
Enduro World - Dakar - Australian Walkner took his first stage win in the bikes yesterday, Coma 2nd
Riaan Van Niekerk felt his pace was a little off the very hot pace up front but still managed a 20th. We think he's racing with his head which is what's brought him great results for the last two years - keep it up Riaan, we would rather have you safe!
 Dave Reeve seems to also be racing smart, he finished 53rd. Albert Hintenaus came in 74 and Wessel Bosman 138.
 Riaan still holds 15th overall, Dave is 48th and Albert 67th in the standings.
 Today they enter Chile and some cold weather. Good luck today lads!

Roll on stage 4  :laughing4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:46:25 am
Daily Honda video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inojehytA0#t=123 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inojehytA0#t=123)

Must admit I'm very impressed with Honda this year.  Their bike seems extremely competitive and they have an excellent team.

The guy I like the best is Gonk - Paulo Goncavels, he is very steady and dependable and seems to have a big heart.

Not to mention Laia  8)

Holding thumbs for them all  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 07, 2015, 07:48:03 am
Wessel judt finished.
 :wav: :wav: :wav:

Yay!  Well done Wessel  O0
Sorry for being dof but who is Wessel  ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 07:52:14 am
from Laia's page:

it is only three seconds of the top 15 after finishing in 17th place in the third stage, half the day's winner nine minutes.

The pilot KH-7 and Team Honda HRC is starring in a starting extraordinarily strong and consistent race.

Joan Barreda, also with the colors of KH-7, continues to lead and control the race.




Laia Sanz goes on increasingly closer to the top 15 after finishing the third stage between San Juan and Chilecito, in 17th position, 9'28 "behind the winner, Austrian Matthias Walkner today. In general, the KH-7 pilot remains in 16th position at 34'14 ", but since only three seconds Riaan Van Niekerk, the 15th.

The 16-time world champion is demonstrating not only an also very regular spectacular start but, takes three days installed in the same place overall (on opening day was 17th but a penalty five minutes Javier Pizzolito made him forward seat ). His pace is solid, does not yield large differences pilots reference, is 11 minutes from the top 10, and just over 15 concerning Jeremiah Israel (8th) and Helder Rodrigues (9th), his fellow Team Honda HRC's in table nearby.

In the third stage, Laia has returned to film in 13th position and holding very steady for much of the day a distance of 5 minutes in relation to the head of the race, but in the last section has been more conservative and finished giving 4 minutes.

"Today everything went well again. The stage was easier than before and that is appreciated after finishing dehydrated in palizón we stick yesterday. The first part was pretty fast and have run well, very happy with the performance of the Honda. But in the last 40 kilometers there were many stone and I dropped the pace a bit to reduce unnecessary risks. Before he had a small crash unimportant to catch a bush on the handlebars, but has not been anything, "he explains.

The KH-7 says that after three days continues with "fitness and well Force tone, but suffered dehydration is noted in the second stage" where the pilots had to face six hours of low driving temperatures above 40 ° C .

Leader remains barreda
After the punch that occurred in the second stage, Joan Barreda has controlled the race well in the third, which was third. The spearhead of Team Honda HRC, supported by KH-7, leading followed by teammate Paulo Gonçalves (now five) to 5'33 and now with almost 11 minutes ahead of Marc Coma, the team to beat is maintained.

Israel Jeremiah was eighth on the stage, the same position it holds in general (at 18'34 ") and Hélder Rodrigues, 15º. Portuguese is ninth in the accumulated with only one second more than the Chilean.

Tomorrow the Dakar caravan will cross the Paso de San Francisco nearly 5,000 meters to enter Chile, where a special of 315 kilometers will be played against the clock. In all the bikes cover 910 kilometers.
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:53:19 am
Wessel judt finished.
 :wav: :wav: :wav:

Yay!  Well done Wessel  O0
Sorry for being dof but who is Wessel  ???

Wessel Bosman - South African riding his 1st Dakar  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 07:59:31 am
Honda's PR Machine also seems to be firing on all cylinders:

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No change in the overall standings today, after Team HRC riders Joan Barreda and Paulo Gonçalves had established themselves as race leaders at the end of yesterday’s infernal stage. All five team members finished in the top sixteen.

It turned out to be a positive outing for Joan Barreda and the other components of the Team HRC camp, on the third stage from San Juan to Chilecito. Although it was anything but easy, after the gruelling and epic stage of yesterday, today’s event still required a fair amount of technical finesse, and a high degree of concentration, especially in the latter part, as riders were forced to tackle a very narrow, challenging section along the home-straight.

Joan Barreda opened the track throughout the stage and finished the section against the clock, on the Honda CRF450 RALLY, with the day’s third-best time. The Spaniard holds off his adversaries with an overall 5’30’’ lead ahead of second place team-mate Paulo Gonçalves, who finished fifth on the day, which sets him up nicely for following stage.

Jeremías Israel, is another happy camper, after putting in another noteworthy and trouble-free display, finishing eighth in the stage and in the overall standings. Hélder Rodrigues will be in a good position to attack from after a fifteenth place finish, which leaves him lying in ninth overall, just one second behind team-buddy Jeremías Israel.

Laia Sanz, was once more among the top riders, repeating her 17th place of the opening day.

Best of the Honda South America Rally Team was once again Chilean Daniel Gouet, in 24th in both the stage and overall.



Joan Barreda
3rd + 1'53
"It was a stage where you really had to have your wits about you. Marc could have made up a lot of time, if I had made any navigational errors. The final part was full of stones, broken track, and many traps, so you had to be really careful with both the riding and the navigation. I kept up a good pace, and I felt pretty good, but I thought it was better not to take any risks in the final section"


Paulo Goncalves
5th + 2'49
"Today I finished the stage in third with a good position overall. The first kilometres were really fast and we got very high up in the mountains with a lot of very narrow and dangerous tracks. In the final 50 kilometres, there were loads of river-beds and off-road, so you had to stay very focused. Tomorrow, we will have the first day in Chile, a tricky day, and I just want to concentrate on taking it day by day to achieve the objectives."


Jeremias Israel
8th + 4'02
"It was a short day compared to yesterday’s stage, but an intense one, very quick in the beginning, which gave us a chance to really put the CRF450 RALLY through its paces. After we went through a zone with a broken up track and a river that was very picturesque. In the end I’m happy with the job. I think it was a good stage for me. Getting over a stage like that helps build confidence."


Helder Rodrigues
15th + 7'01
"Third day and we are still up there in good positions. It was a very short, but technical day. The bike performed really well all the way through. I want to keep on battling until the end to be able to have a good race. Starting a bit further back tomorrow will help us have a good stage tomorrow."


Laia Sanz
17th + 9'28
"It started off as a very fast stage, and I thought that it was going to be more difficult than they had actually said. In the end, I was thankful that it wasn’t so hard – there was only one stretch of river-bed that was difficult, and a very technical section at the end that was very stony. It went very well. I got caught on a shrub and came off the bike, but it was nothing. Now, we will take time out to relax a bit and get ready for tomorrow’s stage."


Daniel Gouet
24th + 15'53
"Everything is going fine up until now. The day was made difficult by so much dust. I tried to push as hard as I could, and tried to salvage something from the stage. But we are still only at the beginning of what I’m sure will be a very
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:04:06 am
So, Yamaha is having chasis/suspension teething issues

Michael Metge - 16th / 07’51 , 17th overall / 35’22

“The piste at the start of the special had just been remade and that was great fun to ride. Then after that we went into a ‘rio’ (dry river) which was more complicated. We made some changes to the chassis set up last night. That improved the bike a little and we need to keep working in that direction.”

Watch out! Big man coming through...

Alessandro Botturi - 14th / 06’16, 18th overall / 35’28

“It went a little bit better today, both for myself physically and technically with the bike. I must admit I didn’t feel great this morning when I got up after yesterday’s crash but ‘fortunately’ we had a long liaison before the start of the special to fully wake up. The special itself was OK but dust was a big problem. ‘Thank you’ both to Mika (Metge) and Laia (Sanz) who both moved over straight away when they saw that I was behind them.”

Stuntman Franz discusses the snowball:

Frans Verhoeven - 32nd / 22’58, 29th overall / 1:18'13

“Yesterday Robert (van Pelt) crashed in the special, the bike got so hot that the fuel started boiling. He ran out of water and eventually became so exhausted that he had to be evacuated by helicopter. It is the classic Dakar downward spiral… As for myself, I’m OK but obviously very disappointed to see my teammate being forced out of the race so early.”
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:16:33 am
Sorry for being dof but who is Wessel  ???

No such thing as dof  ;)

Wessel Bosman is one of only three South African bike riders at Dakar this year. He is the founder and owner of Afriski, a resort in Lesotho.
A few years ago, Wessel and his son, Juan (I think?) rode all the way up Africa on bikes. Not long after that, his son was killed, I believe hit by a drunk driver (I may be wrong about that...)
Wessel had always dreamed of riding Dakar, and he decided to give it a go, kinda as a tribute to his son. He had no rallye experience, and needed some way of getting the attention of the organizers, ASO.
He entered a rallye in North Africa (can't remember which one), but to get there he RODE his rallye bike from South Africa to Egypt, in 19 days. he then rode the rally, and finished in 10th place despite falling heavily and damaging his ribs, I think on the second last day.
He wasn't done yet - from there he went to Austria, straight to the KTM factory, and ordered his 450RR for Dakar. And from there he went to Paris, to personally hand in his entry to ASO.
They were impressed enough to give him a starting place.
Wessel is not a rallye guru, and won't win any stages. But he is a hard man to get down, and I would love it of he makes it to the end.

(I may have mixed up some facts in the story....)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:18:10 am
PEETCHAS  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:19:16 am
From David's FB:

Stage 4 Chilecito to Copiapo

The special stage is just 315km, but with the liaison of 594km, it will still be a long day for all but at least they finish at the bivvy . They will get to 4,800m before entering Chile. Mining tracks and the Atacama Desert mean that the going is open and sandy. The sting in the tail comes in the last 40km with giant dunes. David will relish these conditions and we will hope to see him overtaking less skilled riders as they get caught out in the dunes. The leaders start around 17h00 our time. We are going to be up late.
The goal today will be to stay around P50 and gain any places when others make mistakes or breakdown. Sam Sunderland will pass him today in search of a stage podium now that his overall hopes are dashed.
On day 2, David dislocated his thumb. Bruising, swelling and a bit of pain in the hand will have been on his mind as he held onto the bars, making his performance a bit more remarkable.
David maintained his P48 ranking with his P53 placing. In the first section he lost a few minutes and showed as P66 as there were many riders charging. They gradually fell back again in numbers. Laia P16 and Riaan P15 maintained their overall positions with 3 seconds between them. Frank jumped up the rankings, one can be forgiven for assuming he is on a ‘Go big or Go home’ strategy. He went from P36 to P32 overall.
P..No….Name…………………………………Make D1 D2 D3
1 002 - JOAN BARREDA BORT(ESP) HONDA 4 1 1
2 007 - PAULO GONCALVES(PRT) HONDA 2 2 2
3 027 - MATTHIAS WALKNER(AUT) KTM 8 7 3
4 001 - MARC COMA(ESP) KTM 3 6 4
5 011 - RUBEN FARIA(PRT) KTM 10 3 5
15 020 - RIAAN VAN NIEKERK(ZAF) KTM 20 15 15
16 029 - LAIA SANZ PLA-GIRIBERT(ESP) HONDA 16 16 16
32 088 - FRANCK VERHOESTRAETE(COG) SHERCO 49 36 32
48 103 - DAVID GREGORY REEVE(ZMB) KTM 58 48 48
50 006 - SAM SUNDERLAND(GBR) KTM 1 67 50
Twenty riders withdrew on stages 2 and 3, so it is tough out there. Our condolences go to #82 Polish bike rider Michal Hernik’s family and supporters who was found dead on the special section. There were no outward signs of his having had an accident.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:19:48 am
BARREDA - BANG BANG
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:29:23 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/iT_W-tXNE8o

https://www.youtube.com/v/3cKqbFRCzQ8

https://www.youtube.com/v/OPpnGqPb6_I

https://www.youtube.com/v/rF-kjFTRMdM
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:36:38 am
Bikes leave on the long liaison in about an hour, but the first bike starts the special only at 17:45 this evening.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 07, 2015, 08:49:03 am
Shoe Steve, you have been an elite rider as far as posting has been concerned - well done and thanks very much! :thumleft:

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Scooterbike on January 07, 2015, 08:52:14 am
Hey Steve, are you a Dakar fan!???  ???


 :lamer:
 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 07, 2015, 08:57:49 am
So, Yamaha is having chasis/suspension teething issues

Michael Metge - 16th / 07’51 , 17th overall / 35’22

“The piste at the start of the special had just been remade and that was great fun to ride. Then after that we went into a ‘rio’ (dry river) which was more complicated. We made some changes to the chassis set up last night. That improved the bike a little and we need to keep working in that direction.”

Watch out! Big man coming through...

Alessandro Botturi - 14th / 06’16, 18th overall / 35’28

“It went a little bit better today, both for myself physically and technically with the bike. I must admit I didn’t feel great this morning when I got up after yesterday’s crash but ‘fortunately’ we had a long liaison before the start of the special to fully wake up. The special itself was OK but dust was a big problem. ‘Thank you’ both to Mika (Metge) and Laia (Sanz) who both moved over straight away when they saw that I was behind them.”

Stuntman Franz discusses the snowball:

Frans Verhoeven - 32nd / 22’58, 29th overall / 1:18'13

“Yesterday Robert (van Pelt) crashed in the special, the bike got so hot that the fuel started boiling. He ran out of water and eventually became so exhausted that he had to be evacuated by helicopter. It is the classic Dakar downward spiral… As for myself, I’m OK but obviously very disappointed to see my teammate being forced out of the race so early.”


Everybody can have some badluck but come on Yamaha- get the show on the road. No stories with teething problems etc its not the first Dakar- more bikes, higher ranked riders. It is early days but as every day counts- eisch. If the mighty but boring Honda can do it so can we.  



Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 07, 2015, 09:01:39 am
Interesting that the fuel was boiling - happened a lot in the past on the other bikes, but this time we only have this example. Anyone know if he was on EFi?

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:02:28 am
LAIA    :angel12:   :love4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:05:37 am
JEREMIAS
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:07:56 am
Hey Steve, are you a Dakar fan!???  ???

I though I could keep it  a secret, but you caught me out.
Shouldn't you be filling in your Amageza entry form?  :pot:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:14:11 am
 :ricky: BARREDA AGAIN
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Motties on January 07, 2015, 09:17:45 am
Daily Honda video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inojehytA0#t=123 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inojehytA0#t=123)

Must admit I'm very impressed with Honda this year.  Their bike seems extremely competitive and they have an excellent team.

The guy I like the best is Gonk - Paulo Goncavels, he is very steady and dependable and seems to have a big heart.

Not to mention Laia  8)

Holding thumbs for them all  :thumleft:
Lekker Alan, I agree with everything above. Gonk also becoming a favourite of mine - seems very level headed guy and agree that the team and the bike looks very well prepared. Although I am a Coma fan, I think this is Honda's year.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:24:58 am
RIAAN
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:29:14 am
Via newsletter:


AFTER-EFFECTS OF GRUELLING DAKAR DAY TWO DON’T STOP TEAM SP FIFTYONE

Team SP FiFTYONE suffer the after-effects of the monumental day two but use their heads to maintain position at the end of an “easier” day three.


After such an epic day two it was inevitable Team SP FiFTYONE riders Simon and Llewelyn Pavey were going to suffer physically on day three, despite it being a relatively easier day’s riding.

After needing medical attention at the end of the stage the day before, an experience Simon described as “horrible”, it was understandable he wouldn’t feel strong on his bike today. But in very typical gritty fashion he simply cracked on with it at a relentless but steady pace, making sure he got through despite running on empty himself.

The knock-on effect for Llewelyn were the effects of his knock on the head when he crashed towards the end of the toughest Dakar stage in recent memory. Showing maturity beyond his 23 years Llewelyn rode within himself and the limits he knows he has on his KTM450 Rally bike to maintain his 82nd place.

A grueling 3000m climb in 220kms formed part of day three which also saw the bikes take their own route for part of the stage. Spectacular scenery through La Rioja region of Argentina was difficult to take in for either Team SP FiFTYONE rider with so many competitors running similar times the stage was dusty and incredibly hot, well above 40 degrees for much of the day.

Tough and rocky towards the end with some patches of hard to see fesh-fesh, both Simon and Llewelyn safely reached the end of day three exhausted, certainly ready for food and water and some much needed rest.

An incredibly early start out of Chilecito on day four sees the rally head into Chile at the Paso San Francisco border crossing,  notable by name but also its altitude – some 4,800m.

The early start, first riders are away at 4:30am, will amplify dramatic changes in altitude and temperature (likely to be below freezing at the summit) for all competitors and will certainly be an unknown entity for rookie Llewelyn.

The 315kms special stage takes in the infamous Atacama Desert, regarded as “the driest place on earth”. The last 40kms contain the giant dunes famous to many Dakar follower and will offer a challenging finish to the stage. The race will be on for riders to get through this section before night falls.

A special thought to the family and friends of Polish rider Michael Hernik who sadly passed away while competing yesterday.

Simon: Yesterday had a bit of a lasting effect on all of us but after going into the medical centre and throwing up everywhere I wasn’t feeling too good most of today. It was a horrible experience really but I was not the only one by any means.
My problem today was just not having the energy because I didn’t eat enough yesterday, so I had no fuel in me. It was also really dusty a lot of the time.
I’m not riding well either, I’m struggling a bit with confidence and getting the front to stick in turns on the harder pack going. When you’re not feeling strong on the bike it all gets a bit worse and we dropped a bit further down the order than we want to be so the ruts in the riverbeds are worse and it becomes a vicious circle – all sucking energy out of you in this immense heat.
But you’ve got to just soak it up and get on with it. Tomorrow looks like being tough for different reasons: getting up early and heading high into the mountains will be cold and difficult with the altitude.
600-odd kms is a long way but once we get into the desert it will be special and I’m looking forward to that end stretch of big dunes, it could be quite fun.


Llewelyn: Like so many people today I was suffering the effects of yesterday, especially after my crash. It was a weird one because I landed on my eye, which made me feel a bit hazy and I couldn’t see for a bit. I think with that and the effects of the heat, I’ve been feeling a bit sick while riding today, taking it a bit easier to make sure of everything was sensible.
It’s been hard to concentrate a bit too, I’m not sure if that’s the altitude or just me being me! I’m having to read the road book five or six times to make sure I’m right, which is no bad thing it just feels dozy.
It’s ridiculous how good my bike feels though. You have to remember it is a rally bike and it changes quite a lot during the day as the fuel load changes – I think that’s what caught me out a bit yesterday when I crashed. It felt so good I was having too good a time on it.
Despite being a bit steadier today though I enjoyed the riding. The riverbeds were nice and I didn’t have any problems. I think the people complaining or having problems with the fesh-fesh today were the ones who didn’t ride it yesterday. It was much easier today. The only problems come when a quad comes past you and creates a massive cloud of dust for the next five kilometres!
Day four looks good. I’m looking forward to tackling the desert but I’m unsure what to expect from myself as we the climb up the mountain in the morning. We’ll see. It is what it is.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906512_10152983549048826_60431357223115951_n.jpg?oh=93aed735d68cc74a369e6cd10d9cc378&oe=55295D9F&__gda__=1429597479_bdaeea77f23464a5e5f99121f5af207c)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:31:58 am
:ricky: BARREDA AGAIN

Got to go to a meeting now, but pictures like this just annoy me, the only time I wheelie through a stream nonchalantly like that is by mistake! >:( :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:33:51 am
RIAAN VAN NIEKERK :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:


https://www.youtube.com/v/1UOoXysYr-8
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:43:35 am
RIAAN
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: madmax on January 07, 2015, 09:48:56 am
On something other than the racing, I see they are pushing this "The Odyssey" thing quite hard. Does anyone else smell a name change in future?

didnt i read that senegal are suing the frogs for using their town name or something..in fact it was that singer turned zuma clone yusuf something

That is incredibly disengenous if not just dof - how can you even start to compare Youssou N'Dour and Zuma ???

not really for this thread but if he wanted to sue the rally...eish sounds bit oppertunistic to me ..but im just dof
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:50:00 am
HANNES SAAIJMAN
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: wiledog_X on January 07, 2015, 09:54:49 am
this is my current desktop pic…. Go Laia!!!  :thumleft:

(http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:15:59 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/tQ6p9uI2Rmw
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:19:22 am
GINIEL #303
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 10:21:58 am

 Mooi Giniel & Leeroy & Team!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 10:23:22 am
From Darryl newletter:

STAGE 3 - SAN JUAN - CHILECITO
6th January

Liaison Sections: 437 km
Racing Stage: 220 Km
Total Distance: 657 Km

What happened Monday 5th Jan:

Monday was the longest single special in the rally, proved to be a really tough day for most, with soaring temperatures of up to 42 degrees celcius. The route was challenging with lots of fesh fesh, with ruts and narrow winding tracks between the bushes, then sandy whooped out sections of around 60 Km’s in total to the finish.

It was a Honda one two with Barreda winning the stage ahead of Paulo Gonzalves. Red Bull Factory KTM riders were 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th (Ruben Faria followed by Viladoms, Price and Walkner, Marc Comas mousse collapsed about 50 Km’s from the end of the stage and he limped home losing 12 minutes. Sam Sunderland opened the stage and got completely lost losing 2 hours and 20 in the process.

Broadlink’s Riaan van Niekerk had a steady day finishing in 12th on the stage, putting him in 15th overall.

Yesterday’s stage:

A long liaison of 282 Km’s led riders out of San Juan to the start of the 220Km special. It would be their first taste of high altitude peaking at 3500 metres. It was another fast stage, Broadlink’s Riaan van Niekerk had a trouble free day and stayed out of trouble, finishing 20th on the stage. Struggling in the dust, Riaan played caution to the wind as there were some 90 degree bends and he did not need another close encounter like his day one off! He is not particularly looking forward to the Chilean stages as they are more dangerous and will be difficult to navigate.

Matthias Walkner set a blistering pace today to take the stage win ahead of Marc coma. Marc was able to pull back some time on Barreda and is looking forward to the Chilean stages and will continue to claw back time. Barreda finished third on the stage, Toby Price was fourth.

What’s happening today:

It’s into Chile we go! A very early start and a climb to 4800m will precede the border crossing on the San Francisco pass, a gradual warm up will follow on mining tracks, before riders are faced with the reality of the Atacama desert. The route becomes open and sandy, over the last 40 Km’s, the giant dunes and basins of Copiapo will have to be tackled to reach the bivouac, many will spend their night there.

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341795)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341814)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341797)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341799)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341801)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341805)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341810)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341815)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341816)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 07, 2015, 10:27:17 am
Small KTM garage they have there, NOT.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 07, 2015, 10:39:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/tQ6p9uI2Rmw

I'm really impressed with the Hilux boys this year. Both the cars and crew are on top form! Pity about Poulter's issues -- he was absolutely flying and I think he's got the pace for a podium position.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 10:56:18 am
Sorry for being dof but who is Wessel  ???

No such thing as dof  ;)

Wessel Bosman is one of only three South African bike riders at Dakar this year. He is the founder and owner of Afriski, a resort in Lesotho.
A few years ago, Wessel and his son, Juan (I think?) rode all the way up Africa on bikes. Not long after that, his son was killed, I believe hit by a drunk driver (I may be wrong about that...)
Wessel had always dreamed of riding Dakar, and he decided to give it a go, kinda as a tribute to his son. He had no rallye experience, and needed some way of getting the attention of the organizers, ASO.
He entered a rallye in North Africa (can't remember which one), but to get there he RODE his rallye bike from South Africa to Egypt, in 19 days. he then rode the rally, and finished in 10th place despite falling heavily and damaging his ribs, I think on the second last day.
He wasn't done yet - from there he went to Austria, straight to the KTM factory, and ordered his 450RR for Dakar. And from there he went to Paris, to personally hand in his entry to ASO.
They were impressed enough to give him a starting place.
Wessel is not a rallye guru, and won't win any stages. But he is a hard man to get down, and I would love it of he makes it to the end.

(I may have mixed up some facts in the story....)

Pretty good summary I think - seriously tough and brave man at 56 years old. I would love to see him finish.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 07, 2015, 11:10:09 am
Just realized I'm missing Rynet this year  :thumleft:  Plus the other regular posters seem very quiet?

Maybe we are all busy this year?

Heya Alan. Sadly I don't even have the time to read all the posts this year. Work simply sucks  :cry: Thanks so much to everybody contributing and keeping us up to date, without this thread my Dakar experience would simply not be the same.

P.S. Steve, you're an interwebs machine dude.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 11:28:28 am
P.S. Steve, you're an interwebs machine dude.

Thank you, I have my fans....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 11:33:54 am

I'm really impressed with the Hilux boys this year. Both the cars and crew are on top form! Pity about Poulter's issues -- he was absolutely flying and I think he's got the pace for a podium position.

On this subject. This year is the first the Toyota guys got some good testing mileage done, 2000km. They broke the rear off the trucks after 800km and had to redesign, hence you see those vented skirtings on the side behind which the spare wheels have been relocated to centralise mass. They also have new AC units which no doubt is paying dividends in those temps.

Unfortunately yesterday Leeroy got distracted by a continuously beeping TPM, thought he had a flat and subsequently hit that ditch that broke a wishbone. Luckily they had spares. Lesson learnt, eyes on the road!
Glynn has applied for a higher starting position, probably using safety as a reason, will have to see what the Frenchies say....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 07, 2015, 12:14:16 pm

I'm really impressed with the Hilux boys this year. Both the cars and crew are on top form! Pity about Poulter's issues -- he was absolutely flying and I think he's got the pace for a podium position.

On this subject. This year is the first the Toyota guys got some good testing mileage done, 2000km. They broke the rear off the trucks after 800km and had to redesign, hence you see those vented skirtings on the side behind which the spare wheels have been relocated to centralise mass. They also have new AC units which no doubt is paying dividends in those temps.

Unfortunately yesterday Leeroy got distracted by a continuously beeping TPM, thought he had a flat and subsequently hit that ditch that broke a wishbone. Luckily they had spares. Lesson learnt, eyes on the road!
Glynn has applied for a higher starting position, probably using safety as a reason, will have to see what the Frenchies say....

Thanks! I always love hearing the inside story!

I'll be holding thumbs for a better starting position; it makes sense, the speed capability's already been demonstrated.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 12:47:52 pm
@TomCoronel wil start ss4 after protesting his disqualification and will be on his way to the start soon

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6vW5XeCAAAH0rd.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/v/uy77A5uTaeI

Those guys are a laugh a minute....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 01:28:05 pm
Jmo via FB:

Dakar Day 4 preview:

Day 4 this year is the second longest of the whole event, as the rally crosses over the Andes from Argentina into Chile, via the Passo San Francisco at a hight of nearly 5000 metres - you can bet the Moto riders will be wrapping up warm this morning!
Both the Bike and Car categories will cover a total distance of 909 Kilometres including a 315km special stage - while the trucks will follow the same initial liaison, but a slightly shorter special of 174km, with the end of the both stages directly at the bivouac in Copiapo.
The Liaison route today is effectively a huge procession over the mountains via the border crossing, and physically punishing in itself - with the bikes having to get up well before dawn as they start ahead of the field, and embark on a monster 594km ride before they even start the special stage on the Chilean side, at a scheduled 12.45pm local time this afternoon.
Riders can expect sub-zero temperatures as they cross the summit, and despite the majority taking precautions, inevitably some will suffer with the effects of altitude sickness. Indeed oxygen is provided at points along the route by the medical crews and at the intermediate refuel point. However, with barely any time to recover, the competitors will then face a demanding stage of 315 kilometres, with the final third being a series of demanding off-pieste dunes that will really test the stamina of those who have made it this far today.
Indeed, were the past two days not dramatic enough in the number of retirements so early on in the event - it is likely that today will see that number increase significantly as arguably the most physically punishing day of the rally - from waking exceptionally early, riding long hours in the dark and cold, the effects of altitude, followed by the heat of the desert and the draining exertion of riding 100 kilometres of dunes right at the end of the day.
Personally (and with regard to the map below), I would not be surprised if the Organisation take the decision to ultimately cut a portion of the special stage (I imagine the sector that loops out to the coast), in an effort to not have dozens of competitors stuck out in the dunes in the dark again, as happened on Monday night.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BLK on January 07, 2015, 01:43:22 pm
keep it coming,thks  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: GRyPH on January 07, 2015, 02:01:52 pm
 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Mikedabike on January 07, 2015, 02:08:46 pm
Is there any more info on what happened to Michal Hernik who died?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 02:09:42 pm
this is my current desktop pic…. Go Laia!!!  :thumleft:

(http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg)


For some reason my anti virus is telling me this image contains malicious stuff and is denying access.

Not kidding.

Anyone else having that problem?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 02:10:47 pm


For some reason my anti virus is telling me this image contains malicious stuff and is denying access.

Not kidding.

Anyone else having that problem?

A hot chick caning a Honda is damn malicious
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: pietas on January 07, 2015, 02:16:03 pm
AlanB, same issue with anti-virus. Because the image url is hxxp://... instead of http://
Maybe edit the post?

See the Toyotas have GP number plates on it. Interesting
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 02:19:13 pm
Wonder if the Toyotas are going to take strain at altitude with those restrictors?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: jossvw on January 07, 2015, 02:19:38 pm
this is my current desktop pic…. Go Laia!!!  :thumleft:

(http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg)


For some reason my anti virus is telling me this image contains malicious stuff and is denying access.

Not kidding.

Anyone else having that problem?

jip, my avast blocks his pic as well
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 02:22:12 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 02:27:46 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...

Riding is always a million times better than watching other people ride IMO!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 07, 2015, 02:28:24 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...
Rent a bike and watch the Dakar, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 07, 2015, 02:29:13 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...
Dakar for me
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 02:29:23 pm


For some reason my anti virus is telling me this image contains malicious stuff and is denying access.

Not kidding.

Anyone else having that problem?

A hot chick caning a Honda is damn malicious
delicious

fixed  >:D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 02:29:57 pm
If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

No brainer. If you have to skill to do it, then ride.
Live your dream rather than watch other people living theirs.
IMHO  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 02:36:03 pm
AlanB, same issue with anti-virus. Because the image url is hxxp://... instead of http://
Maybe edit the post?

See the Toyotas have GP number plates on it. Interesting

Had a look at the post and the URL looks fine?

Plus my Kaspersky reports it as follows:
Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg   Denied: http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg (http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg) (analysis using the database of malicious URLs)   http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/ (http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/)   2015/01/07 02:31:24 PM   


Maybe she's just looking so dam hot the the antivirus caught fire :biggrin: :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 02:46:17 pm
Terence Marsh via FB:
Just in case you wondered how big the Dakar is......passport control services into Chile was provided to us in the bivouc today!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 07, 2015, 02:56:31 pm
Terence Marsh via FB:
Just in case you wondered how big the Dakar is......passport control services into Chile was provided to us in the bivouc today!

I wonder if Alexander's going to organise a similar thing for Namibia and Botswana for Amageza this year?! The crossings will become a little chaotic if 500 people try to get through there at the same time (riders, support crew, officials etc)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 07, 2015, 03:20:37 pm
So, is the special stage kick-off for the bikes only at 17:45 our time today?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 03:22:59 pm
 JamBer, also see Amageza 015 posts on WDforum
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 03:24:38 pm
So, is the special stage kick-off for the bikes only at 17:45 our time today?

Yup  :hello:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Just In Time on January 07, 2015, 03:25:13 pm
this fred has just stolen 3 hrs of my (bosses) time, best reports ever.  For the best live tracking go to www.trackingdakar.nl (http://www.trackingdakar.nl) - sorry if it's been posted already.
Title: Re:
Post by: dirtyXT on January 07, 2015, 03:30:57 pm
subscribed pity we only get 27 minutes on dstv!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 03:31:16 pm
Border crossing into Chile today. Would love to do this pass - topping out at 4,748m!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f3Xkqqb_Pnw/VK0ykZdHzGI/AAAAAAAAAKs/zlITUY6JjdM/w1021-h679-no/1200px-Paso_San_Francisco.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 03:40:33 pm

 Where is the PUB !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: madmax on January 07, 2015, 03:42:06 pm
AlanB, same issue with anti-virus. Because the image url is hxxp://... instead of http://
Maybe edit the post?

See the Toyotas have GP number plates on it. Interesting

Had a look at the post and the URL looks fine?

Plus my Kaspersky reports it as follows:
Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg   Denied: http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg (http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/Dakar15_E3_Laia_1.jpg) (analysis using the database of malicious URLs)   http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/ (http://laiasanz.com/press/Dakar_2015/)   2015/01/07 02:31:24 PM   


Maybe she's just looking so dam hot the the antivirus caught fire :biggrin: :ricky:

interesting i right clicked and said email... then i right clicked and said set as background..
no issue both times
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 03:44:25 pm
Border crossing into Chile today. Would love to do this pass - topping out at 4,748m!

There is a story about that border crossing.
An unnamed South African was chasing the Dakar a few years ago, on his own bike. He hadn't arranged any visas, because you mos don't need them to Argentina/Chile.
When he got to the border, some over-eager official claimed that he DID need a visa, and would not let him through.
Snookered - so you would think.
He rode his bike back down the road for a bit, then turned around and gunned it. The over-eager official didn't really have a choice than to step aside and let him through......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 03:52:50 pm
 BlueBull2007 . . .
 Come in please.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 03:57:30 pm
Border crossing into Chile today. Would love to do this pass - topping out at 4,748m!

There is a story about that border crossing.
An unnamed South African was chasing the Dakar a few years ago, on his own bike. He hadn't arranged any visas, because you mos don't need them to Argentina/Chile.
When he got to the border, some over-eager official claimed that he DID need a visa, and would not let him through.
Snookered - so you would think.
He rode his bike back down the road for a bit, then turned around and gunned it. The over-eager official didn't really have a choice than to step aside and let him through......

Classic   :laughing4:

You reckon it was a Dog Steve?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 04:03:26 pm
Some photos of Guillaime, from ADV. his beard is coming along nicely.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10891789_10155027525130290_4803304343443167563_n.jpg?oh=5b8428a892af34adad9596327f4cfc4f&oe=553105FA&__gda__=1429827231_bfc1cd7cfcf1ba4b0a598bf2a806e10f)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10422550_10155027525220290_2858430775944838596_n.jpg?oh=e45a85736a518f0acb4421f7abc3171f&oe=5521BA80&__gda__=1433330838_9de3959800cf9cad02bec1b6373e9fe3)

(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/10888751_10155027525165290_6252342007666841673_n.jpg?oh=24e341b836edb82043d53dff9290629e&oe=55423762)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 04:11:01 pm
Respect  :3some:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Berty77 on January 07, 2015, 04:27:44 pm
It surely seems that this years 'Dakar' is a lot tougher on the riders than previous years, with the long hot stages and liasons, and now the altitude is coming into play also.

Notr to self: Must get fitter and spend more time on my bike.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: wiledog_X on January 07, 2015, 04:42:33 pm
that Laia photo is from her official website (laiasanz dot com) - don't know why it's being flagged by anti-virus? I'm surfing on my Macbook, so no issues there.

anyway, here's a story about our quad guys:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/q82/s720x720/10378145_10152746333898020_5570721151618798490_n.jpg?oh=911b20d27facebd954d24f19d9316e70&oe=55397DD2&__gda__=1430134049_583e0173bcc0bdd226b816a9f272b186)

"Here is a photo of Willem/Hannes donating some gasoline to Mauro Almeida in front of our tent the middle of the dunes in San Juan in stage 2. Earlier in the day he was seen towing another quad in Cordoba. I am sorry we could not return the hose because we stayed in the dunes until very late; do not forget to replace it!"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152746333898020&set=o.1396038987322973&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152746333898020&set=o.1396038987322973&type=1)

well done guys!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 04:45:51 pm

 Yes, respect to all the Malles Motos riders.
 #158 mr. Martens is a Guru.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: heinzz on January 07, 2015, 05:00:31 pm
that Laia photo is from her official website (laiasanz dot com) - don't know why it's being flagged by anti-virus? I'm surfing on my Macbook, so no issues there.

anyway, here's a story about our quad guys:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/q82/s720x720/10378145_10152746333898020_5570721151618798490_n.jpg?oh=911b20d27facebd954d24f19d9316e70&oe=55397DD2&__gda__=1430134049_583e0173bcc0bdd226b816a9f272b186)

"Here is a photo of Willem/Hannes donating some gasoline to Mauro Almeida in front of our tent the middle of the dunes in San Juan in stage 2. Earlier in the day he was seen towing another quad in Cordoba. I am sorry we could not return the hose because we stayed in the dunes until very late; do not forget to replace it!"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152746333898020&set=o.1396038987322973&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152746333898020&set=o.1396038987322973&type=1)

well done guys!

Apparently Hannes was towing Brain who has blown his engine.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 07, 2015, 05:01:24 pm
BlueBull2007 . . .
 Come in please.

Howzit! Im here, just lurking - lots of work for me unfortunatly. Looking for a place to live in Spain and other kak. Not my thing really but i have been told it has to be done ::) ;D
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 05:06:27 pm
 Did you see SD's post above BB
 I know you have a pasport
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 07, 2015, 05:12:50 pm
This post?

Border crossing into Chile today. Would love to do this pass - topping out at 4,748m!

There is a story about that border crossing.
An unnamed South African was chasing the Dakar a few years ago, on his own bike. He hadn't arranged any visas, because you mos don't need them to Argentina/Chile.
When he got to the border, some over-eager official claimed that he DID need a visa, and would not let him through.
Snookered - so you would think.
He rode his bike back down the road for a bit, then turned around and gunned it. The over-eager official didn't really have a choice than to step aside and let him through......

Hehe, wasnt me. But its what I would have done too, even though you have to be carefaul about which border. They have mines and guns, because some are still sort-of at war with one another.

I can say that Chasing the Dakar is a lot of fun though. You need to be riding fit its a long way to ride just to keep up and find good viewing spots. Budget for 10-12hrs/day in the saddle.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 05:42:44 pm

 ....mmm , that one yes.
 I like you advposts especialy on the rules issues.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Welsh on January 07, 2015, 05:53:24 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...

Riding is always a million times better than watching other people ride IMO!

Not a question, just too old and unfit to do either event..... Riding the Ama or spectating Dakar... give me Ama.... where is my mate Ama ride ride now.. :biggrin: :biggrin: spectator is a spectator.... not a rider...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:12:51 pm
First riders left, about 25 minutes ago...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 06:16:18 pm
Howzit! Im here, just lurking - lots of work for me unfortunatly. Looking for a place to live in Spain and other kak. Not my thing really but i have been told it has to be done ::) ;D

Been wondering why you're so scarce . . . hope you get some decent TV coverage . . . or something for your minimum daily prescription dosage, at least.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:19:03 pm
WP1 alive!
Barreda 25 sec ahead of Coma
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:30:34 pm
Barreda, Coma, Faria are 1-2-3
Could today be the day that the old guard team up to hunt down the young guns?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Mark Hardy on January 07, 2015, 06:37:30 pm
Coma first through WP2....... looks like the old guard are stepping up the pace. lets see how much time he can pull back

oops wrong

site corrected ....Barreda still first, Coma second

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:40:43 pm
This is fun, if Barreda can keep him in sight he can follow him the whole day, provided he can keep up......Just like the Coma/Despres days, but with only one alien and one I-wanna-be-an-alien
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Kenisis on January 07, 2015, 06:40:54 pm
Coma first through WP2....... looks like the old guard are stepping up the pace. lets see how much time he can pull back


MC knows his stuff. Week one is not a race yet. Steady through the first week, let the young'uns crash their brains out and then come past.

Smile and Wave! Smile and wave!

MC is one of the best tactitioners in the game.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 06:41:29 pm
Riaan 5th through WP1!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:42:54 pm
RIAAAAAAAN  :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 06:46:11 pm
Ek's bly, maar hy moet nou nie weer neerbliksem nie
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:50:11 pm
Wessel just started  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:56:20 pm
Mr Barreda faster than Mr Coma at WP3, they should be within spitting distance now. Let the shadowing games begin......
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 06:57:23 pm
David at WP1, Riaan late to WP2?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:03:10 pm
Riaan 6th at WP2. Go boy!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 07:07:52 pm
How's Riaan's dune riding these days? I see they will do at least 60 clicks there?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: LDV on January 07, 2015, 07:09:26 pm
What is the rules regarding engine replacement? A 450 doing 175kmh cant last to long?


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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Bokbevok on January 07, 2015, 07:11:23 pm
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Great contributions and information......magic stuff

HOOKED!!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:12:12 pm
Albert through WP1, started 74th and now 72nd. Smooth....
Ldv: 15 minute penalty for first engine change, another 45 minute penalty for a second change. A lot of bikes do it on one engine.
KTM do impressive analysis of engine oil to determine if an engine change is required.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 07:13:22 pm
Toby Price putting the hammer down!  :o  66, 35, 8th 
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:19:13 pm
From ADV:
13:59 Bikes: Sunderland and Jakeš at a standstill
Sam Sunderland and Ivan Jakeš have stopped in the same place for reasons as of yet unknown.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:22:10 pm
David at WP2, 45th. Steady boy, don't overcook it now
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:25:47 pm
Riaan 10th at WP3
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 07:26:35 pm
Riaan through WP3  10th at this stage.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Buff on January 07, 2015, 07:27:36 pm
Toby Price putting the hammer down!  :o  66, 35, 8th 

This boy can ride, I see a future Dakar champ in him for sure  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 07:28:15 pm
David at WP2, 45th. Steady boy, don't overcook it now

adjusted 50th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:39:17 pm
Albert at WP2 70th
and Guillaume at WP1, which means Wessel should be along soon
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 07, 2015, 07:41:19 pm
Riaan up 1 to 9th, Laia catching him, now 10th.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 07, 2015, 07:41:44 pm
Laia's getting better as the day progresses 17, 13, 15, 12 place ... She's showing class
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:48:43 pm
David at WP3  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 07:53:08 pm
From ADV:
The Dakar rally is over for Sam Sunderland, suffered a fracture to a shoulder in a fall
 :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 07:57:17 pm
From ADV:
The Dakar rally is over for Sam Sunderland, suffered a fracture to a shoulder in a fall
 :eek7: :eek7:

Aaah damn unfortunate.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 07:59:38 pm
From ADV:
The Dakar rally is over for Sam Sunderland, suffered a fracture to a shoulder in a fall
 :eek7: :eek7:

fork  ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:03:52 pm
David at WP4, Albert at WP3.
The gap between Barreda and Coma is staying remarkably the same. It would appear that Mr Barreda is a bit more tactical and a bit less Bam-Bam this year. With a 10ish minute lead, it could get interesting...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:07:03 pm
Riaan 9th thru WP5
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:08:06 pm
Wessel, jou doring, through WP1
 :wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 08:08:13 pm
Riaan 9th thru WP5

keep it steady meneer  :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 08:10:42 pm
 … and Reeve steady at 44
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:10:56 pm
some weird things happening out there ???

While Riaan and Laia have been flying out the blocks from the get go, going strong, Toby price, starting in 4th place was 68th @ WP1.
Paulo Goncales started in 5th, but only managed 40th position @WP1.
Ivan Jakes started in 18th is now lying 55th
Jeremias Israel Esquerre started in 8th and is now lying in 64th position.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 08:18:59 pm
R van N through next WP at 8th - great to see him mixing it in the top ten  :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 08:20:53 pm
some weird things happening out there ???

While Riaan and Laia have been flying out the blocks from the get go, going strong, Toby price, starting in 4th place was 68th @ WP1.
Paulo Goncales started in 5th, but only managed 40th position @WP1.
Ivan Jakes started in 18th is now lying 55th
Jeremias Israel Esquerre started in 8th and is now lying in 64th position.

I was thinking the same thing.
Except for Jakes who stopped at Sunderland's crash I believe
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:22:36 pm
Hannes Saaijman also doing great, 5th @ WP1 and 9th @ WP2


Edit:

dropped to 17th @WP3
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:24:10 pm
some weird things happening out there ???

While Riaan and Laia have been flying out the blocks from the get go, going strong, Toby price, starting in 4th place was 68th @ WP1.
Paulo Goncales started in 5th, but only managed 40th position @WP1.
Ivan Jakes started in 18th is now lying 55th
Jeremias Israel Esquerre started in 8th and is now lying in 64th position.

I was thinking the same thing.
Except for Jakes who stopped at Sunderland's crash I believe

Ah, that explains one of them.

Maybe after the very long liaison some of the others were experiencing bike problems?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:24:46 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Was in a few meetings so catching up. Frank Verhoestraete is out but okay after a collision with a horse. #Dakar2015
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:27:22 pm
some weird things happening out there ???

While Riaan and Laia have been flying out the blocks from the get go, going strong, Toby price, starting in 4th place was 68th @ WP1.
Paulo Goncales started in 5th, but only managed 40th position @WP1.
Ivan Jakes started in 18th is now lying 55th
Jeremias Israel Esquerre started in 8th and is now lying in 64th position.

I was thinking the same thing.
Except for Jakes who stopped at Sunderland's crash I believe

Speculation on ADV is that they made a big nav error.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:29:45 pm
Jeremías Israel Esquerre started today's stage in Chilecito sitting eighth overall, but he's having a very bad day at the office. The official HRC rider went through CP1 in 58th place, about half an hour slower than teammate Joan Barreda.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 08:30:52 pm
R van N through next WP at 8th - great to see him mixing it in the top ten  :ricky:

The meneer is on song today!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:31:13 pm
DAKAR.com
Matthias Walkner is back on course after a brief foray off-track which will nevertheless cost him a few minutes.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:32:37 pm
Albert through WP4, 73rd
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 08:34:28 pm
From DAKAR.com


Paulo Gonçalves started the stage in second place overall, but he could finish stage 4 further down the classification. The Portuguese rider has had a bad start and has conceded 16 minutes after 139 km. Toby Price, who got lost towards the start, is losing 18 minutes.

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:35:33 pm
David at WP5, and Riaan through WP6 in SEVENTH  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 08:40:13 pm
any news on Wessel?
Wish I had more inside info on his race. he must be one tough mother.
also, I wonder if he'll come to his own in the sand, having done so well in the desert race he did as "qualifier"
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:42:50 pm
Wessel just passed WP2, screaming through the field to move into 119th place  :sip:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 08:48:31 pm
(http://www.webventure.com.br/multimidia/fotos/020_dk15_josemariodias_037787_g.jpg)

RvN showing us how its done on stage 3
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 08:51:24 pm
Sam sore
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 08:55:30 pm
Sam sore

Damn, broken collarbone. You can clearly see the collarbone out of place.
This suck I was rooting for Sam, he is damn quick.


Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 08:56:44 pm
Riaan has me worried, or tracking on the blink?
first 11 riders through WP7 - no Riaan yet
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: jossvw on January 07, 2015, 08:57:12 pm
STAGE 4:
We could not track Hannes at first (panic!) but he's there!
WP1: 5th
WP2: 9th
WP3: lost about 15min, 20th
WP4: 15th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:00:14 pm
Ok just got in.

I see Gonk has lost his second place over all but Barreda is still hanging on by his fingernails!

Shows the difference between steady dependability and pure speed, even if its erratic!

This could turn out to be a crucial stage in the overall scheme of things!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:03:09 pm
According to my screen Laia is ahead of Riaan?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:03:30 pm
Eish, Riaan at WP7 but dropped to 13rd, might still drop more.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:04:46 pm
Gonk is actually doing quite badly, wonder if he has a problem?

He's down to 16th, actually 11th in the last update.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 09:06:24 pm
Laia in at 10th pos Whooohooo!!!
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 07, 2015, 09:08:52 pm
Eish! Just caught up after a busy day. Why are they still riding? The very long Liasan? This must be a very long day for the guys in the saddle!!! Anyone in as yet?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:12:40 pm
Riaan dropping to 13th @ WP8
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:14:30 pm
Quote
a quick note on Cesares bike burning up. The 450 rallyes have a inherent problem with way too much heat where the headers run under the skid plate and most smart teams use exhaust wrap to stop them from melting everything in that area. I belive since he was off the piste in deep sand and brush it caused the plastic water tank to catch fire then leading to the bike burning that or one of the fuel lines were punctured.. no fun having a bike catch on fire, mine did in the Mojave and luckily there were 5 riders that helped me throw dirt and empty camelpacks on it.. I was lucky and rode away.. he wasn't so lucky..

And Malle moto entrants only get one box... no hopskotchin two of them.

(http://cesarezacchetti.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/altAjPYNPt9SYSNH5DNvPfbUsGqLP8kdzaIlbdLZkKHvqV--1024x575.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:15:18 pm
Eish! Just caught up after a busy day. Why are they still riding? The very long Liasan? This must be a very long day for the guys in the saddle!!! Anyone in as yet?

Not yet, but leaders all through the last (8)WP so expect them through any moment
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:16:27 pm
Some really funny comments on AdvRider:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by desmond22  View Post
Looks like Barreda jumped out in front w/ Coma on his heels after wp1.
"A MAN'S GOTTA KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS" Dirty Harry
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:19:02 pm
Looks like Gonk made a nav error:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by micko01  View Post
From the Dakar Feed:

13:09 : Toby Price loses his bearings
Toby Price, the fourth rider to start today's stage, strayed off course a few kilometres into today's special. It's the first mistake in this Dakar for the Aussie, who's about one kilometre from the course.

Good to see he has sorted it out in pretty reasonable time and turned up at WP1 though.
He's done his job, took Gonçalves for a little ride.
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:19:24 pm
Albert at WP6
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Tuareg on January 07, 2015, 09:21:50 pm
RvN 14th at WP8
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 07, 2015, 09:24:05 pm
Bareda an MC are in!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:24:17 pm
Barreda and Coma are in the ASS
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 07, 2015, 09:24:57 pm
Bareda in @ nr 1 and MC + 1:59
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:25:11 pm
Some great insight from Neduro:

Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianofmcmillan  View Post
Does anyone have any insight into what these very long liaison sections are like for the riders?
In addition to the great replies already received, none of which I would argue with in the slightest, I would say the thing about liaisons, is the thing about everything in life. It's all in how you look at it.

When we started the race, I thought of the total mileage we had to go, and in my mind, I decided that I was going to enjoy every single meter as much as I could. From this perspective, the Liaisons were great. They were lined nearly everywhere with cheering spectators. The countryside we rode through was beautiful, and often the roads were pretty good (curvy, interesting, etc). We were limited to 110KPH, which was frustratingly slow at times, but made for a relaxing pace. I thought of them as easy miles out of my overall goal, and it was also the only real time in a day that there was no chance I should be doing something else, or doing what I was doing better, so it was a great mental break too. I could just happily plonk along on my favorite bike in the world, as part of my favorite race in the world, being cheered on by crowds of adoring fans. I often listened to music or a book on tape. I rejoiced in knowing James Renazco, who gave me a saddle so comfortable that I barely had to shift positions.

The time was, so to speak, paid for, a chance to just relax my mind and breathe and take it all in without any concerns.

It was also uncomfortable most of the time, but in light of the above, I didn't care about being cold or hot aching feet or whatever, this is the only chance I was going to have to enjoy these feelings, so I damn well did my best to...


Now, back to the race. I feel it's a good time to explain why I'm rooting for Marc Coma.

In addition to his amazing track record, I see Coma as an outstanding sportsman. He was teammates with someone who more than once seemed to take advantage of certain situations (I'll just list mudgate, but I don't think it ended there) and he always maintained a professional attitude. With regard to the tire change so many years ago, I speculate that the only thing that is unusual is that it was caught.

And, having seen him on a bike, I am just amazed at how hard he rides while making it look smooth and effortless, and how few mistakes he makes. The mental capacity he has is beyond me. I love to watch video of him, his technique is exactly what I aspire to, always keeping his weight on his feet, never looking caught out or like he has to use a muscle.

It's rare that I'm rooting for someone other than an underdog, but to me MC is the real deal of Dakar. I wish the best to everyone on the course, and I'll smile if MC comes out on top yet again.
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:25:40 pm
Wessel at WP3  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:27:56 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Barreda pips Coma to keep the win lead by 1:59. Barreda glued himself to Coma's rear wheel from WP3 and became his shadow. Smart strategy.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:28:16 pm
Quote
The electric rally car is out of the race...

From Twitter, Rally Raid News

''De Spaanse elektrische auto is uitgevallen wegens te veel waypoints missen.
Ze doen in 2016 weer mee.''
Title: Re:
Post by: Jackol. on January 07, 2015, 09:29:20 pm
Lol @ electric car out of rally!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:29:41 pm
Wessel at WP3  :thumleft:

Steadily making up time I see :)
Title: Re:
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 09:30:54 pm
Bareda in @ nr 1 and MC + 1:59
So tomorrow Coma can shadow Barreda and gain 2 minutes, just like Barreda did to him today.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:31:50 pm
@RallyRaidReview: It also means Barreda opens the stage tomorrow and heavy lifts the navigational duties.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 09:35:48 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Barreda pips Coma to keep the win lead by 1:59. Barreda glued himself to Coma's rear wheel from WP3 and became his shadow. Smart strategy.

Am I missing something or was it Coma shadowing Barreda all of today?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 09:36:12 pm
Dammit AllenB, how about a warning before posting graphic images such on p57.... Not on...
Title: Re:
Post by: sidetrack on January 07, 2015, 09:38:50 pm
Lol @ electric car out of rally!
Flat battery  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:46:28 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Barreda pips Coma to keep the win lead by 1:59. Barreda glued himself to Coma's rear wheel from WP3 and became his shadow. Smart strategy.

Am I missing something or was it Coma shadowing Barreda all of today?

If you look at their times at the WP, then it makes sense that Bangbang was trailing Marc.

Marc left at 12:47 and Joan 12:49, so he had a 2m headstart.so Marc would have to be 2m+ slower for Joan to be in front.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 09:47:26 pm
Lol @ electric car out of rally!
Flat battery  :biggrin:

ESKOM rolling blackout at the recharge points?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 07, 2015, 09:48:13 pm
Wow, Peterhansel leading at WP5 in the Pug
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:52:47 pm
Dammit AllenB, how about a warning before posting graphic images such on p57.... Not on...

Sorry - didnt realise there were sensitive viewers watching...

Very ugly though I agree
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:53:25 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 09:54:45 pm
@RallyRaidReview: Barreda pips Coma to keep the win lead by 1:59. Barreda glued himself to Coma's rear wheel from WP3 and became his shadow. Smart strategy.

Am I missing something or was it Coma shadowing Barreda all of today?

If you look at their times at the WP, then it makes sense that Bangbang was trailing Marc.

Marc left at 12:47 and Joan 12:49, so he had a 2m headstart.so Marc would have to be 2m+ slower for Joan to be in front.

ah, my bad. all I remembered was that Coma was second in yesterday's stage - forgot that it was Walkner who took it, not Barreda.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 09:55:14 pm
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Originally Posted by 640 Armageddon  View Post
We should know better than that by now... He, who thinks that Coma rode 200% and tried to get away from Van Dam (I am writing on my mobile, don't ask... ) they should think twice. Coma in my opinion is in control of the race. HRC will post about the victory and blah blah blah, the fact is that there is only one Honda on the top. And with the stages to go, I am sure as hell out is easier for Barreda to make a mistake than for coma.
Wouldn't it have made more sense then for Coma to pull ahead a bit to minimize the hit he took in the overall standings? Losing the stage by 5 seconds would certainly have made more sense than losing it by almost 2 minutes.

JBB is fast. He pushed Coma today. He will undoubtably do something to screw it up by pushing so hard but it didn't happen today.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 09:59:16 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 640 Armageddon  View Post
We should know better than that by now... He, who thinks that Coma rode 200% and tried to get away from Van Dam (I am writing on my mobile, don't ask... ) they should think twice. Coma in my opinion is in control of the race. HRC will post about the victory and blah blah blah, the fact is that there is only one Honda on the top. And with the stages to go, I am sure as hell out is easier for Barreda to make a mistake than for coma.
Wouldn't it have made more sense then for Coma to pull ahead a bit to minimize the hit he took in the overall standings? Losing the stage by 5 seconds would certainly have made more sense than losing it by almost 2 minutes.

JBB is fast. He pushed Coma today. He will undoubtably do something to screw it up by pushing so hard but it didn't happen today.

loving the intrigue . . . has the youngster matured enough? with 12.49 in hand, he just needs to stay relatively close to Coma. if he can do that for the next 3 - 4 stages things will become really interesting.

chances are, we'll have some drama at some point . . . what's it gonna be(!!)?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 09:59:59 pm
Wow, Peterhansel leading at WP5 in the Pug

Nope, Ten Brinke in another Hilux pipped him by 58s

Ooooh, and Leeroy Poulter just pushes Mr. Dakar Peterhansel to 3rd at WP5

Looks like the Hilux boys are pushing today.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 10:02:29 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?

seems so. I need to go to sleep, but want to see Riaan home first . . .
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 10:03:05 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?

 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:05:27 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?

Yip. Faria was only 6m39 behind Joan, its been over ten minutes since him and Marc got in!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 10:08:06 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?

Yip. Faria was only 6m39 behind Joan, its been over ten minutes since him and Marc got in!!

I don't think so.

Faria started 10min behind Coma plus the 7min drop behind. So Faria will only show 17m after Coma at the ASS.

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:10:00 pm
In other news….

Giniel dV only 14sec behind the leader Yaazeed Alrajhi at WP5
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:11:36 pm
Seems to be a bit of a block on the data?

Yip. Faria was only 6m39 behind Joan, its been over ten minutes since him and Marc got in!!

I don't think so.

Faria started 10min behind Coma plus the 7min drop behind. So Faria will only show 17m after Coma at the ASS.



FKKT.. Iknew Ishould have taken those extra maths lessons at school  :deal:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 10:12:05 pm
data Dump!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:13:14 pm
MASSIVE timing dump

Laia 8th

Riaan 14th
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 07, 2015, 10:15:34 pm
Albert sitting pretty in pos 72, 55mins off the leaders WP8 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 10:15:53 pm
Wonder what happened to Riaan there at the end? Guess we will hear.  ::)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on January 07, 2015, 10:16:48 pm
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 07, 2015, 10:18:04 pm
MASSIVE timing dump

Laia 8th

Riaan 14th


Laia 12 and Riaan 16th in standings.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 10:19:34 pm
Gonk the big loser down at 12th on the stage, that's gotta hurt!

But Laia finised 8th which is amazing - very few people in SA could keep up with her it seems - Riaan's certainly battling!?

Barreda, still in the lead.  He's done very well to hang on today IMO  :thumleft:

Starting to get exciting I think.

Real pity about Gonk IMO.  But there is still a lot of racing left.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:20:18 pm
CHILE GETS A PODIUM :)

Must feel awesome standing up there in front of your home crowd.

Pablo Quintanilla rode balls to the wall for a podium I reckon
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 10:20:46 pm
come on Wessel!!
. . . still not showing at WP4 . . .
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 10:24:14 pm
Gonk the big loser down at 12th on the stage, that's gotta hurt!

But Laia finised 8th which is amazing - very few people in SA could could up with her it seems - Riaan's certainly battling!?

Barreda, still in the lead.  He's done very well to hang on today IMO  :thumleft:

Starting to get exciting I think.

Real pity about Gonk IMO.  But there is still a lot of racing left.

Laia is looking good for a top ten placement, at the very least.
Maybe top five at this rate.

This should get her a start in 12th position tomorrow.

Riaan should start in 16th.

Thats if there are no penalties
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rokie on January 07, 2015, 10:41:46 pm
Wessel stone last through WP4
keep going Wessel!
:wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 07, 2015, 10:49:57 pm
Wessel is the new Louis  :biggrin:

GO WESSEL!!!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 11:03:16 pm
Wessel is the new Louis  :biggrin:

GO WESSEL!!!!

 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alli on January 07, 2015, 11:14:29 pm
Wessel is the new Louis  :biggrin:

GO WESSEL!!!!

 :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

 :3some:
Tough old bugger that  :thumleft:

Wish we could get better updates on how he's doing at the end of each day.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Rallyerider 2 on January 07, 2015, 11:22:02 pm
To pass the time...

Something to think about.

If you are lucky enough to scrape together enough funds to do the Amageza, do you go for it or do you go and watch the Dakar live for about the same money?

I always lean towards rather being a participant than a spectator, if I had the choice. But if you are talking about a once or maybe twice in a life time experience what then...

No disrespect to Amageza, but you have to experience Dakar at least once in your life!!! Even if it is as a spectator.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 11:26:05 pm
For those who don't remember - Luis finished the Dakar in 2013, after a few attempts, on a 150cc 2 stroke!
He slept in the desert quite a lot, rebuilt the engine a moerse lot, and cost a MOERSE lot of supporters a significant amount of sleep while they willed him on to the finish.
It was classic.
 :notworthy:

Quote from: Seavoyage;20548129
Luis Belaustegui #150 (http://"http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2013/us/rider/150.html"), a 48 year-old professor from the University of Missouri-Kansas City Living the Dakar Dream (http://"http://unews.com/2011/06/01/living-the-dakar-dream/"), campaigned and finished on a KTM 150XC (http://"http://www.ktm.com/us/enduro/150-xc-usa/highlights.html#.UP6qeuhyHtY") 2-stroke! :clap

Send luisbelaustegui (http://"http://www.advrider.com/forums/member.php?u=106457") your congratulations. Post on his thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=796687 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=796687)

<iframe src="
" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2013/1100/99.jpg)

(http://www.enlacecritico.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Luis-Belaustegui_658x400.jpg)

Content on Luis from Dakar 2011 and 2012:

Motorcyclist Article: Another KTM Hero of the Dakar 2011 Riding a KTM 150 XC (http://"http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/racing_news/122_1102_luis_belaustegui_another_ktm_hero_dakar_2011_riding_150_xc/")

Blog: http://thedakar.blogspot.com/2012/01/dakar-2012-luis-belaustegui-on-move.html (http://thedakar.blogspot.com/2012/01/dakar-2012-luis-belaustegui-on-move.html)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 07, 2015, 11:30:05 pm
Both David and Albert snuck in to the finish while I wasn't watching. 52 and 73 place.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 07, 2015, 11:49:27 pm

 Hannes with a Zee is rocking,
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 12:12:47 am

 Riaan 14th stage 4 end so far
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 12:17:30 am
 Albert #125 in  72 possie , ?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 12:36:19 am

 Wessel through 5
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 12:46:53 am
 Hannes deur 8
 nog net n klein entjie
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 01:10:18 am
 #327 Leeroy-hulle, 9e in.
 Dis woes
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 01:14:09 am
 Nou-ja ,hiephiep!
  Hannes #285 in.
 
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: gser on January 08, 2015, 01:18:36 am
 Wessel deur 6
 net so n 100 + kmtjies Wessel !
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:06:15 am
I see Wessel got in eventually  

Sorry, it seems he's still riding, didn't read the screen properly  :-[
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: tau on January 08, 2015, 06:06:50 am
From Albert:
Did the mother of all dunes today....makes dune 7 in Namibia look like an anthill


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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:07:35 am
(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/29.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: tau on January 08, 2015, 06:08:40 am
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/07/3dafb348bbd0b3702ec9e16118fc9978.jpg)

First three riders on Malles Moto and Dunes they rode in the Background.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/07/ead2e6155d3b5d81c8cc565fe460d340.jpg)

Dirty, but happy. He loves sand and being superfit helps.


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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:09:57 am
Daily pic of Laia

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/30.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:11:12 am
(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/300/50.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:15:06 am
Nice video of the guys in the dunes.  One very steep/high dune they go down in the end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqZm6r81ac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqZm6r81ac)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:22:52 am
Laia Sanz ‏@LaiaSanz_ 2h2 hours ago

Buenas noches! Mañana + / Good night! / Bona nit! Demà + @Dakar @RallyTeamHRC @KH7_Sport @Autosuministros #Dakar2015

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6yroQhIYAImXpM.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:24:56 am
Arty shot

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6yc7RSIQAA4sg-.png)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:27:13 am
Can one have too many photo's of Laia?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6yQwKSIQAAWsQB.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:29:23 am
Giniel de Villiers ‏@TheRealGiniel 5h5 hours ago

Long day today with crossing of Andes. Stage went well, we opened most of the way so happy with our result. Still in the fight!#dakar2015
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 06:50:47 am
Ag nee  :angryfire:
.....Dutch privateer and Malle Moto rider #158 Guillaume Martens is out with a broken collarbone, earlier in the stage.

I see Wessel through WP8, but not at ASS. I think he is still riding?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 06:55:06 am
Ag nee  :angryfire:
.....Dutch privateer and Malle Moto rider #158 Guillaume Martens is out with a broken collarbone, earlier in the stage.

I see Wessel through WP8, but not at ASS. I think he is still riding?


Beat me to it!  Sad news about Martens :-\


I thought Wessel was in?  But you are right.  I didnt scroll far enough to the left on the tracking screen.  Sorry about the earlier misinformation.  Hope he is OK!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BV on January 08, 2015, 07:07:45 am
Ag nee  :angryfire:
.....Dutch privateer and Malle Moto rider #158 Guillaume Martens is out with a broken collarbone, earlier in the stage.

I see Wessel through WP8, but not at ASS. I think he is still riding?

Ag nee.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 07:14:48 am
Quote
Crappy Goggle translation from Laia's site

The pilot KH-7 gives a swipe at the standings and up to the 12th.

It was the second best rider with Honda HRC in the fourth stage, after twelve hours on a bike and 900 kilometers.

The leader Joan Barreda extends his lead over Marc Coma in two minutes.




The first Chilean stage, the fourth Dakar Rally 2015 between Copiapo and Chilecito, has left a good impression to Laia Sanz. After piloting over his Honda CRF450 RALLY HRC for 12 hours in the marathon day transandina 909 kilometers, the pilot KH-7 has crossed the finish line in an impressive 8th place at 13'48 "to his teammate at Team Honda HRC Joan Barreda. In general giving a blow and up to 12th place.

It is the second best result in the rally raid toughest in the world, after the 7th position achieved last year in the ninth stage. That was ninth but paths penalties Joan Barreda and Jordi Viladoms took her to sign the best finish for a woman in the motorcycle of Dakar.

Some call it the 'Queen of Dakar' other 'Lady Dakar' but nicknames aside, Laia Sanz has won the admiration and respect of all. And the only official driver in the history of Honda HRC today has been the second best team rider, ahead of Paulo Gonçalves, Hélder Rodrigues and Jeremiah Israel. "That does not mean anything. Today they have struggled and tomorrow I can be "cautious and modest says.

The truth is that overall, the KH-7 and is 12th at 48'02 "Barreda and is nine minutes from the top 10, which defines Rodrigues.

Arriving at the camp, the Barcelona champion did not hide his satisfaction: "I made a good step, sailing well and riding fast, but quietly. I have not missed key points and this allowed me to get a good result. The special was very fast at first, then in the dunes of the final I've had very well and made no mistakes on a couple of points of complicated navigation. "

Despite the tedious link to heights of 4800 meters of altitude prior to the special, Laia continues to show great strength: "Today I felt good and less tired after casting the second day. Still it was a beating. We started very early on to make a link to 8 hours. We have gone cold and sleep. I had to stop me every half hour because I slept with altitude ".

Barreda not yield
The fourth stage has also been conducive to Joan Barreda, who has led the victory with two minutes of advantage over Marc Coma. The Torreblanca (Castellón) extends its lease with the reigning champion, who is now in second position distanced 12'49 ".

As for the other riders of Team Honda HRC, Gonçalves was 12th and now occupies third place overall at 20'29 "from his boss, Hélder Rodrigues finished 18th and 10th at 39'05", and Jeremiah Israel, after suffering a fall that left him dazed few minutes, completed the stage in 40th place, a result that moved him to 18th place overall at 54'16 ".
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 07:17:28 am
Nice comment about Geniel by homerj at AdvRider:

Quote
DeVilliers is the quiet man of the cars. Nassar is out pounding on his Mini, RG is putting on a show w.o much go, and DeVilliers quietly hammers along, staying well w.in reach, managing his risk for the race. It's sort of like watching an anaconda take out a deer. Every stage the pressure increases a bit. Will Nassar survive? We've got 9 stages to find out.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 07:21:27 am
 :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by ba_  View Post
Someone mentioned that Laia's boyfriend was "Pedro" -- is that Juan Pedrero Garcia? If so she is now in front of him in the overall...

[No] Pedro Bianchi Prata
http://http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/rider/053.html (http://http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/rider/053.html)

Doesn't seem to be riding this year but has many times in the past



Pedro Bianchi Prata, and if was racing she would have been in front of him as well...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 07:27:19 am
Another good Honda video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cXbnU4rAEg#t=155 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cXbnU4rAEg#t=155)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 08, 2015, 07:39:20 am
To achieve a top 15 overall result for Laia so soon is remarkable to say the least. It was a possibility but I thought it may occur because of attrition but she outperformed some of the top riders.

It would be good to hear what happened to Riaan in the middle of stage 4. .... He was flying.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 08, 2015, 07:39:32 am
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Takashi on January 08, 2015, 07:45:24 am
The Hilux is starting to show just what its made of.

Overall standings after stage 4 shows:

6x Hilux
6x Minis
1x Mitsubishi ASX
1x SMG Buggy
1x Peugeot DRK

The Mini of Nasser leading with three Hilux bakkies on his heels.... Awesome stuff
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Grolls on January 08, 2015, 07:58:31 am
To achieve a top 15 overall result for Laia so soon is remarkable to say the least. It was a possibility but I thought it may occur because of attrition but she outperformed some of the top riders.

It would be good to hear what happened to Riaan in the middle of stage 4. .... He was flying.

Seems Riaan lost about 2 - 3 minutes per WP - no real single time delay or stop
Top 15 riders only about 15 minutes apart ...
There must be one hell of a race going on up front there  :thumleft:

https://www.youtube.com/v/JmqZm6r81ac
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: alanB on January 08, 2015, 08:25:10 am
Quote
"Johnny Campbell Dakar Rally update from The Biv in Copiapo Chile,

January 7th 2015,
Today's stage was a mighty one leaving early for a 600k journey over the Andes, light headed and out of breath just sitting in the Navi seat....left the Bivouac at 651am and started the 315k special at 3:06pm. The stage started on Rocky mining roads and washes at high elevations. Then dropped down and ran some suuuppper smooth but extremely slick roads connected by Rocky hill climbs in and out of washes. The last 80k ran pretty solidly in BIG dunes til the finish in Copiapo. We took off with vengeance to set the pace of the day for the first 85k. We encountered a couple major players with major issues only to continue a bit more and find our own.The flex plate on the Gordini cracked causing a vibration till finally we stopped to investigate. We made trail side cut and hack-took awhile but was necessary to not cause further damage. After a lengthy "repair" we were underway making the best of it. Super fun roads, gnarly rocks and dunes for miles that could swallow a small village. RG did an outstanding job crossing the battle zone of stuck vehicles and some upside down. Navigation was fun, chasing waypoints across the sea of sand. We lost several minutes/hour plus today with our problems, But as the Dakar continues so will the battle of those like us, with multiple trials. Tomorrow is a new day and the Speed Energy crew is doing an outstanding job re prepping our mess day after day, all night long.
Thanks Boys!!
Love to my Family, Friends and Fans.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 08:35:42 am
From DirtRacing FB:

INTO CHILE AND STAGE 4 IN THE BAG...

After a long distance on the road (594km) travelling between Argentina and crossing into Chile, the competitors completed the 315km stage and at the end of Stage 4, they have completed just over 900 kilometres!
The South Africans are all still there - well, we are waiting for the updated the results to see where #143 Wessel Bosman is in the MOTORCYCLE category as he was last spotted at WP4 (latest WP8, but not yet at ASS)...
- Riaan van Niekerk (Broadlink KTM) finished the stage in 15th place and dropped one position to 16th place overall
- the Capetonian, Albert Hintenaus (KTM), who is competing in the Malle Moto/Marathon where riders are not allowed to have any back-up support, moved up another three positions to the 64th place overall after finishing the stage in 72nd place. He is now third in the Malle Moto Class!
- the Zambian, David Reeve (KTM), has also moved up one position on the overall standings and is now 47th overall after finishing the stage in 52nd place. He is aiming for a finish after doing well at the 2013 and and 2014 events, but having to withdrew due to injuries. https://www.facebook.com/DakarDaveZambia (https://www.facebook.com/DakarDaveZambia)
- QUADS: Hannes Saaijman (Team Rhide SA Yamaha) lost time due to four flat tyres (they can only carry one spare tyre on the quad), but finished the day in 22nd place and moved into the top 20 where he is now 19th overall and leading the First Timers Class!
- CARS: Giniel de Villiers (Imperial Toyota Hilux) was 3rd and kept his 2nd place overall; his South African team-mates, Leeroy Poulter/Rob Howie had a better day (they lost lots of time repairing a damaged rear suspension after doing so well yesterday) and finished the stage in 9th place. They moved up seven positions and is now 14th overall!
Johan van Staden and Mike Lawrenson in the Nissan Navara also moved up a few places after finishing the stage in 43rd place (they struggled somewhat in the dunes) - they are now 34th

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bmad on January 08, 2015, 08:37:11 am
How cool is this inside video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 08:40:25 am
Update @TomCoronel is almost at the finish had great stage but it's too dark to continue in the dunes
waiting for some daylight #Dakar2015

While you're there, boet, bring Wessel out with you?
No word yet from Wessel, except that he is not on the withdrawal list. It will be very dark there right now, so he's probably sleeping in the dunes, waiting for daybreak.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BV on January 08, 2015, 08:47:04 am
Thanks STEVE!!!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 09:04:02 am
Amageza FB (via dakar.com, I think?)

Dakar 2015, Stage 5: Copiapó - Antofagasta

The first of the few specials with a common programme for all categories. Confident drivers and riders at the front of the race will be able to use the fast tracks to try and gain time in the general classification, but every mistake will carry a hefty price tag, especially in tricky fesh-fesh areas where nerves of steel are the only guarantee of a safe passage. Maximum accuracy will be required when overtaking other competitors.
Total Distance: 697km, with a very long 458km special.

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/CARTE.png)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/PROFIL_US.gif)

Riders leave on the liaison at 11h30 South African time, and start the special at ~14h30
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 09:08:10 am
And from Darryl:


STAGE 4 - CHILECITO - COPIAPO 07/01/2015

Liaison Sections: 594 km
Racing Stage: 315 Km
Total Distance: 909 Km


What happened yesterday:

Broadlink’s Riaan van Niekerk had a trouble free day and stayed out of trouble, finishing 20th on the stage. Matthias Walkner set a blistering pace today to take the stage win ahead of Marc coma. Marc was able to pull back some time on Barreda and is looking forward to the Chilean stages. Barreda finished third on the stage, Toby Price was fourth.


Todays stage:

The traditional crossing of the Andes via the San Francisco pass was taxing although it wasn’t as cold as normal. Riders were overdressed as ominous weather got them packing on extra layers for the 4:30am departure from Chilecito. Temperatures over the 5000m crossing didnt go much below 8 degrees, never the less there was a chill in the air. After a 594 Km liaison section, it was straight into the 315 Km special and competitors first glimpse this year of the Atacama. Navigation would be the order of the day and yesterdays winner Matthias Walkner soon slotted in behind Marc Coma. Toby Price was the first to get lost losing around 20 minutes early in the morning, Sam Sunderland’s bike stopped at Km 67.

Riaan van Niekerk had a trouble free day with a steady ride into 14th place at the end of the day. The first 100 kays was absolutely flat out, Sam Sunderland crashed out early in the morning on the really slippery roads and is out. Riaan then passed David Casteu and they rode together until the refuel, when Chilean rider Gouet joined them. A short while later Helder Rodrigues and Pizzalito joined the fray and the four of them rode to the finish together. All in all it was a steady day with no real drama for Riaan and the Broadlink crew.

Joan Barreda took the stage win today gaining 2 minutes on Marc Coma. Both young guns Matthias Walkner and Toby Price made navigation errors today and paid the price.


What’s happening tomorrow:

This is one of the few special stages of the rally where all categories follow the same route. The tracks will be really fast in the early stages, allowing those that wish to overtake, the advantage to move up the overall standings. This will be at their own risk though, as competitors should be aware of the pockets of fesh- fesh where absolute self control is the only real measure of success.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: MDT on January 08, 2015, 09:15:21 am
How cool is this inside video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8)

That guy was broken. Amazing to see him get back on the bike.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 09:32:03 am
https://www.youtube.com/v/-cXbnU4rAEg

https://www.youtube.com/v/tmCcnTOjeE8
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 08, 2015, 09:37:05 am
How cool is this inside video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8)

That guy was broken. Amazing to see him get back on the bike.

Pure determanation!!!!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bmad on January 08, 2015, 10:02:27 am
Redbull.tv also has some great behind the scenes stuff

http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1420226651748-366210319/day-4-january-7th#autostart (http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1420226651748-366210319/day-4-january-7th#autostart)

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: madmax on January 08, 2015, 10:04:03 am
To achieve a top 15 overall result for Laia so soon is remarkable to say the least. It was a possibility but I thought it may occur because of attrition but she outperformed some of the top riders.

It would be good to hear what happened to Riaan in the middle of stage 4. .... He was flying.

was also wondering ..but a small tumble could do it ? and then the dunes could also slow him a lot i guess
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 10:16:24 am
Guillaume, before the injury which forced him to retire  :crybaby2:

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10903886_10205943008882470_2036558688467338079_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10258854_10205942978201703_6288704042509340429_o.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 10:17:44 am
Via FB:
David still going strong

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10917972_10152652256080975_4967284159092829019_o.jpg)

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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 08, 2015, 10:18:24 am
Riaan was certainly riding well yesterday, but I'm curious: Didn't the fact that quite a few of the riders ahead of Riaan on the standings got lost/lost some time early on, make Riaan look a bit quicker than what he really was? Not trying to take anything away from him of course.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 10:19:16 am
Via FB:
Joan Barreda, on hearing that Rynet is still following him

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10891795_686452948142200_4141481039250042365_n.jpg?oh=a635027bb3553364a13c5189834babe1&oe=5539ABD1&__gda__=1430355213_2f50dc3ee7a7493abea8592eb3c956c4)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: BiG DoM on January 08, 2015, 10:21:42 am
How cool is this inside video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8)

That guy was broken. Amazing to see him get back on the bike.

Men amongst men.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 10:33:09 am
From http://broadlinkktmrally.co.za/ (http://broadlinkktmrally.co.za/)

(http://broadlinkktmrally.co.za/gup/guy/020_dk15_viniciusbranca_044604_alta.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 08, 2015, 10:34:04 am
Via FB:
Joan Barreda, on hearing that Rynet is still following him

 ;D :thumleft: She'll love that.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Just In Time on January 08, 2015, 11:03:45 am
30 mins to go before the bikes leave......    :wav:  :wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 11:05:06 am
How cool is this inside video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9aE4kXmBM8)

That guy was broken. Amazing to see him get back on the bike.

Men amongst men.


Google translation of an interview with him:

"A good third stage, at my own pace ...

I just get up and leave in the link 500 kms which will take us to Chile. Then a special of 300 km, I think, to pretty beefy air!

Back to yesterday ... that saw the death of a motorcycle rider. It is really sad! Not much to say, just to reassure everyone - but especially my family, my children (I kiss), my family - I really ride slowly, very slowly, very carefully ... as evidenced by my ranking, I am in the last! My goal is to come home, to be there and to reach the end.

The second stage (note: before yesterday) was very difficult, I can say it now, I thought of giving up, I was dehydrated, with cramps ... but when I was about to call ASO to declare my surrender and seek help, I did not want to ; did not want to withdraw a second time, the second day, it was hard, very hard ... and I forced myself, I do not know how I was able to reach CP3 ... where the race was neutralized! For those who have seen the pictures on Eurosport, I was very bad, really bad, I could not keep my legs ... but not in danger! The same evening I was spruced nickel and the next morning.

Yesterday it went very well. Stunning scenery, really extraordinary mountain landscape with rocks and dirt track, a little bit of sand (the day before yesterday, there was great roads full of ruts sand, really not easy ). We went through 3800, I believe, in liaison with quite nice roads. While the first part of the special was relatively simple, fast, a little brittle but simple, including navigation, the last 30/40 kms rios were in fine sand with stones with permanent changes of course , a blow to the left, a shot to right. There, it was tough. I wondered throughout the beginning of the stage if it was going to be like this all along, if it's not hiding something ... and it was hiding something! 30/40 km to the end were very hard.

Well, I arrived at the bivouac in Chilecito, not too late and I was able to do many things on the bike, set a lot of little problems: I changed the rear tire really tired; changed the power cables of navigation that was broken during a fall (note: this explains the non Frédéric positioning on the site Dakar); a lever; still my rear brake problem; the shoe that moves a little; draining essential ... a lot of niceties to do, but the bike is fine (*)! I have almost everything set but I went to bed a little too late! I'll leave a little on the link, the times seem broad, to make small naps quarter of an hour, 20 ...

(*) Small messages for upholstery Bender "The saddle is fine - to be clear, I'm not bad ... ass, despite the large links" - and Thierry Beuchot "among all that you have done the ... tanks holding up well, despite the falls! »:"
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 11:16:37 am
From Riaan:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rn9wuzxt7gghrqq/AACSWjVrFC2oYS6HOrTo3WuGa/Stage%204%20Riaan%20van%20Niekerk.m4a?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rn9wuzxt7gghrqq/AACSWjVrFC2oYS6HOrTo3WuGa/Stage%204%20Riaan%20van%20Niekerk.m4a?dl=0)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341848)

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(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341850)

(https://motorpress.co.za/app/image/display/341843)

Ek be :pottytrain5: myself as ek oor so 'n duin kom....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 08, 2015, 11:17:53 am
(http://i.imgur.com/AZjshdw.jpg)

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/chile/weather-atacama-desert?day=2
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Just In Time on January 08, 2015, 11:29:32 am
AAAAAAAaaaaaaaannd we're off.  Let the racing begin.  Go Riaaaaaannn  you good thing!!!!


Never mind... 
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Just In Time on January 08, 2015, 11:33:28 am
FFS - I'm 3 hours too early....  This sucks donkey balls...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Morph on January 08, 2015, 11:35:44 am
Jeez guys!!  Really enjoying this thread!! Whithout it I would have been lost to the world of Dakar.
Thanks for all with the updates!!

Keep em coming!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 08, 2015, 11:41:20 am
FFS - I'm 3 hours too early....  This sucks donkey balls...

Yip, you're just in time...  ;D

Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Just In Time on January 08, 2015, 11:44:03 am
FFS - I'm 3 hours too early....  This sucks donkey balls...

Yip, you're just in time...  ;D


I had that coming...   :sip:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 11:48:05 am
FFS - I'm 3 hours too early....  This sucks donkey balls...

They did just leave on the liaison. So it was, at most, a small donkey.

On an interesting note, Wessel is listed as a starter today, although he seems not to have actually finished yesterday yet.
I am not sure what the rules say about how far you are allowed to be behind before the org stops you. One guy on ADV says that if you miss your start by an hour, you are out. However, last year there was this cool video of Kevin Muggleton, who had already withdrawn, helping Mark Davidson with his roadbook. I think he was something like 4 hours behind. Kevin lied about the 15 minutes just to keep him going...

https://www.youtube.com/v/FZskvGY75zY
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 12:05:32 pm
Mr Barreda leaving on the liason.
So the sun is up, Wessel, you can ride noiw

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A bit smarter than the tent that Albert is sleeping in
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Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Breekbeen on January 08, 2015, 12:11:19 pm
Not Dakar but thought it is pretty cool.
To cheer up all the Yammie fans,
Africa Race - David Freitigne. Wonder why he is not racing Dakar anymore?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: White Rhino on January 08, 2015, 12:19:00 pm
Via newsletter:


AFTER-EFFECTS OF GRUELLING DAKAR DAY TWO DON’T STOP TEAM SP FIFTYONE

Team SP FiFTYONE suffer the after-effects of the monumental day two but use their heads to maintain position at the end of an “easier” day three.


After such an epic day two it was inevitable Team SP FiFTYONE riders Simon and Llewelyn Pavey were going to suffer physically on day three, despite it being a relatively easier day’s riding.

After needing medical attention at the end of the stage the day before, an experience Simon described as “horrible”, it was understandable he wouldn’t feel strong on his bike today. But in very typical gritty fashion he simply cracked on with it at a relentless but steady pace, making sure he got through despite running on empty himself.

The knock-on effect for Llewelyn were the effects of his knock on the head when he crashed towards the end of the toughest Dakar stage in recent memory. Showing maturity beyond his 23 years Llewelyn rode within himself and the limits he knows he has on his KTM450 Rally bike to maintain his 82nd place.

A grueling 3000m climb in 220kms formed part of day three which also saw the bikes take their own route for part of the stage. Spectacular scenery through La Rioja region of Argentina was difficult to take in for either Team SP FiFTYONE rider with so many competitors running similar times the stage was dusty and incredibly hot, well above 40 degrees for much of the day.

Tough and rocky towards the end with some patches of hard to see fesh-fesh, both Simon and Llewelyn safely reached the end of day three exhausted, certainly ready for food and water and some much needed rest.

An incredibly early start out of Chilecito on day four sees the rally head into Chile at the Paso San Francisco border crossing,  notable by name but also its altitude – some 4,800m.

The early start, first riders are away at 4:30am, will amplify dramatic changes in altitude and temperature (likely to be below freezing at the summit) for all competitors and will certainly be an unknown entity for rookie Llewelyn.

The 315kms special stage takes in the infamous Atacama Desert, regarded as “the driest place on earth”. The last 40kms contain the giant dunes famous to many Dakar follower and will offer a challenging finish to the stage. The race will be on for riders to get through this section before night falls.

A special thought to the family and friends of Polish rider Michael Hernik who sadly passed away while competing yesterday.

Simon: Yesterday had a bit of a lasting effect on all of us but after going into the medical centre and throwing up everywhere I wasn’t feeling too good most of today. It was a horrible experience really but I was not the only one by any means.
My problem today was just not having the energy because I didn’t eat enough yesterday, so I had no fuel in me. It was also really dusty a lot of the time.
I’m not riding well either, I’m struggling a bit with confidence and getting the front to stick in turns on the harder pack going. When you’re not feeling strong on the bike it all gets a bit worse and we dropped a bit further down the order than we want to be so the ruts in the riverbeds are worse and it becomes a vicious circle – all sucking energy out of you in this immense heat.
But you’ve got to just soak it up and get on with it. Tomorrow looks like being tough for different reasons: getting up early and heading high into the mountains will be cold and difficult with the altitude.
600-odd kms is a long way but once we get into the desert it will be special and I’m looking forward to that end stretch of big dunes, it could be quite fun.


Llewelyn: Like so many people today I was suffering the effects of yesterday, especially after my crash. It was a weird one because I landed on my eye, which made me feel a bit hazy and I couldn’t see for a bit. I think with that and the effects of the heat, I’ve been feeling a bit sick while riding today, taking it a bit easier to make sure of everything was sensible.
It’s been hard to concentrate a bit too, I’m not sure if that’s the altitude or just me being me! I’m having to read the road book five or six times to make sure I’m right, which is no bad thing it just feels dozy.
It’s ridiculous how good my bike feels though. You have to remember it is a rally bike and it changes quite a lot during the day as the fuel load changes – I think that’s what caught me out a bit yesterday when I crashed. It felt so good I was having too good a time on it.
Despite being a bit steadier today though I enjoyed the riding. The riverbeds were nice and I didn’t have any problems. I think the people complaining or having problems with the fesh-fesh today were the ones who didn’t ride it yesterday. It was much easier today. The only problems come when a quad comes past you and creates a massive cloud of dust for the next five kilometres!
Day four looks good. I’m looking forward to tackling the desert but I’m unsure what to expect from myself as we the climb up the mountain in the morning. We’ll see. It is what it is.


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When reading through these amazing personal difficulties of some of the Dakar competitors, it's not really evident to the average TV viewer just how tough it is for the participants. Typical coverage focuses on highlights and lacks these amazing mental, emotional and physical in-depth accounts. More of these personal stories need to be shared to appreciate just how demanding and risky this race really is. Particularly motorcycle riders, they have a high risk exposure and demand greater mental and physical attention. A momentary slip in concentration, a sudden surprise or even shortage of talent can end in sudden disaster. And as the rider tires, the risk escalates increasing the danger. The average adventurer that has been through fesh-fesh on a motor cycle will know just what white fear is when the brain can’t process what it can’t see. I can’t imagine what it’s like to ride through it for long periods – probably better to ride commando, cause I would need a change of jocks.  :deal:

It would be interesting to see the statistics of past Dakars to see the ratio of incidences across each category to see where motorcyclist ratios are in comparison to the others. SteveD, if you’re idling between 4 and 6 in the morning, see what you can dig up.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Hentie @ Riders on January 08, 2015, 12:19:30 pm
Ek het nou met die 2 manne wat saam Wessel daar is gepraat en hulle se Wessel is nog nie in na gister se stage nie en hulle weet nie of hy vandag gaan kan begin nie  :'(
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 12:24:03 pm
Ek het nou met die 2 manne wat saam Wessel daar is gepraat en hulle se Wessel is nog nie in na gister se stage nie en hulle weet nie of hy vandag gaan kan begin nie  :'(


 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Crossed-up on January 08, 2015, 12:25:11 pm
Wessel went through so much to get there. I really hope he makes it. I'm holding thumbs like mad.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dwerg on January 08, 2015, 12:26:26 pm
Not Dakar but thought it is pretty cool.
To cheer up all the Yammie fans,
Africa Race - David Freitigne. Wonder why he is not racing Dakar anymore?

Bliksem. Op 'n 1200 Tenere?

Daai race se website is ongelooflik crap. Kan niks informasie uit daai ding uit kry nie en die kleure maak my wil :puke:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Dutchie on January 08, 2015, 12:28:31 pm
Ek het nou met die 2 manne wat saam Wessel daar is gepraat en hulle se Wessel is nog nie in na gister se stage nie en hulle weet nie of hy vandag gaan kan begin nie  :'(

Komaan Wessel! You've got this!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: N[]vA on January 08, 2015, 12:29:47 pm
very few events with such amazing images
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 12:34:09 pm
Via newsletter:


Solid performances on day four of the 2015 Dakar Rally puts Team SP FiFTYONE riders Simon and Llewelyn Pavey back up the leader board to 67th and 69th respectively.
 
Pushing competitors mentally and physically is part and parcel of the Dakar and day four was no exception, even without the special test. A long liaison of 594 kilometres began from 4:30am and took up much of the day (rally leader Joan Barreda took over eight hours to complete the liaison).
 
The day's liaison was a body-testing ascent up to 4800m through the Andes mountains, across the Argentinian/Chilean border in freezing conditions before dropping back down into ‘the driest place on earth’, the Atacama Desert and the start of the 315kms special test in 35 degree heat. Not only passing this test but getting through it on the front foot and pushing on up the leaderboard is testimony to the legendary Pavey determination.
 
Clocking up some great times between waypoints as the thick of the 315kms stage unfolded, the father and son team impressively finished just under five minutes apart, an hour behind the leaders. It was a far more realistic performance from both riders and puts them in the ascendency on the leaderboard inside the top 70.
 
It was a particularly strong performance from Simon who had suffered badly with the conditions on day two, resulting in medical attention to help his body recover from severe dehydration. Now in his tenth Dakar, Simon had been struggling with confidence aboard his 450 KTM all week too. Climbing from 93rd to 69th today showed all the steely determination which has helped him complete so many Dakar’s, and not least that there is a good deal of fight in the old dog to catch his son!
 
Up as high as 53rd at waypoint seven, Llewelyn once again proved he has the mettle for this tough event by getting through the natural ‘test’ of this day with confidence.
 
Spare a thought for the Team SP FiFTYONE assistance crew who put in a 12 hour drive on day three, worked most of that night before setting off on a 16 hour drive to meet Simon and Llewelyn at the end of stage four. The Dakar is hard on all who take part, not just the competitors.
 
Day five begins for the bikes at a more civilized 06:30am and covers 174kms from Copiapo to the start of the 458kms special stage. The special begins at 1000m and climbs to 3000m, which will again be tough on the body as temperatures rise and fall with the altitude and they head for Antofagasta and the night’s bivouac.
 
Unfortunately, as you will notice, we were unable to communicate with the team at the end of the stage. With time schedules, mechanicing, food, drink and sleep all a priority it is not always possible to fit in the time for an interview or two. Apologies.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 12:53:30 pm
Via Simon Pavey FB:

Live at the start line now folks! Much, much better day for us yesterday. Llel is riding really well and I remembered how to ride and I had a proper face-plant in front of the cameras. All typical Dakar!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10928983_10152985927608826_2995968795414020609_n.jpg?oh=fb87b08202a29e8b53f3a9c3ccaae8f1&oe=556E2584&__gda__=1429403857_107cda61a9116189c9713971dc24f641)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 08, 2015, 12:54:17 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JAmBer on January 08, 2015, 12:57:00 pm
Great vid of some dune riding...
http://www.youtube.com/v/JmqZm6r81ac
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: LDV on January 08, 2015, 01:21:38 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)

Bliksem ma die manne speel nie


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Whyme on January 08, 2015, 01:24:02 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)


Demit!!! :eek7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 08, 2015, 01:28:16 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)


Eish you lied to your wife and said you are just going riding with some buddies and then u enter the Dakar. Wife gets suspicious and you get wiord from yor crew that your wife phoned and said that if u are not home for supper you are in serious @$%$4
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 01:30:15 pm
Twitter is abuzz with tweets of people appearing out of the dunes and trying to find out if they will be allowed to start today.
Here's hoping they will, and that Wessel is one of them....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 08, 2015, 01:32:34 pm
Twitter is abuzz with tweets of people appearing out of the dunes and trying to find out if they will be allowed to start today.
Here's hoping they will, and that Wessel is one of them....

Common Wessel!!! You can do this.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 01:37:00 pm
From Jenny:

Just had a phonecall from John - #134 Clayton Jacobsen HAS made it in this morning with just 30 minutes to spare... they are grabbing some breakfast now - I guess the Marathon stage has come early for Clayton this year!
Jx

Mr Wessel sir, sounds like you have like 30 minutes to ruk that haas out of your hoed.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Scooterbike on January 08, 2015, 01:51:35 pm
seems Wessel is on the list with a starting time...
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: bud500 on January 08, 2015, 01:52:22 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)


Faaaaark.... :eek7:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: JK on January 08, 2015, 01:59:18 pm
Am I seeing correct that Laia is starting 8th today
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: atkinse on January 08, 2015, 02:02:22 pm
Whoa!

Sam Sunderland - 20150104_082056 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e33fv)


Demit!!! :eek7:

Apparently something like 175 km/h :ricky:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Berty77 on January 08, 2015, 02:02:53 pm
Not Dakar but thought it is pretty cool.
To cheer up all the Yammie fans,
Africa Race - David Freitigne. Wonder why he is not racing Dakar anymore?

Because thats a ST between his legs??
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Hentie @ Riders on January 08, 2015, 02:03:58 pm
Twitter is abuzz with tweets of people appearing out of the dunes and trying to find out if they will be allowed to start today.
Here's hoping they will, and that Wessel is one of them....

Common Wessel!!! You can do this.

Kom ons hoop so!!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: TheAnt on January 08, 2015, 02:08:34 pm
seems Wessel is on the list with a starting time...
???
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Whyme on January 08, 2015, 02:27:53 pm
While we wait

2013  O0 :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckNPTQ2dNw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckNPTQ2dNw)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 02:31:00 pm
Tally-ho !

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/CARTE.png)

(http://www.dakar.com/PHOTOS/DAK/2015/500/PROFIL_US.gif)

From Dakar.com:
This is the first of the rare special stages in which all categories will compete. At the start of the race, the most confident drivers will be able to take advantage of the fast tracks to try to move up in the overall standings. But the temptation to do so may be risky, particularly in the hard-to-handle fesh-fesh areas  :eek7: where absolute self-control is the only guarantee of success. Overtaking here requires precision handling to the extreme.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 02:58:41 pm
Interesting. Coma is 2m25s faster than Barreda into WP1.
He left 2min behind Barreda, so he has already passed him. Maybe today is when he pulls away? Alien on the hunt.....
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: cocky on January 08, 2015, 03:00:57 pm
Interesting. Coma is 2m25s faster than Barreda into WP1.
He left 2min behind Barreda, so he has already passed him. Maybe today is when he pulls away? Alien on the hunt.....
Barreda is trying what the Frog did last year and make a gap at the start then try to stick with Coma, until Coma pulled a move on him in the dunes.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 08, 2015, 03:02:24 pm
Has anyone seen any route maps showing the way point locations?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Hentie @ Riders on January 08, 2015, 03:04:12 pm
Right nou net weer met die manne gepraat en Wessel het dit gemaak en gaan stage 5 ry vandag  :biggrin:  :hello2:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 03:06:23 pm
Has anyone seen any route maps showing the way point locations?

Not available, I'm afraid. The maps I posted earlier are all that we have.

Wild Woody is smarter than me
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 08, 2015, 03:06:53 pm
Right nou net weer met die manne gepraat en Wessel het dit gemaak en gaan stage 5 ry vandag  :biggrin:  :hello2:

Good News!!
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: SteveD on January 08, 2015, 03:07:42 pm
Right nou net weer met die manne gepraat en Wessel het dit gemaak en gaan stage 5 ry vandag  :biggrin:  :hello2:

Iron Will Wessel!
 :wav:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Hentie @ Riders on January 08, 2015, 03:08:46 pm
Right nou net weer met die manne gepraat en Wessel het dit gemaak en gaan stage 5 ry vandag  :biggrin:  :hello2:

Iron Will Wessel!
 :wav:
Verseker  :thumleft:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: XT JOE on January 08, 2015, 03:11:49 pm
While we wait

2013  O0 :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckNPTQ2dNw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckNPTQ2dNw)

Sucky-- 3 low sides and a high side -they should have warned the riders!!!!!!! in Africa the cousins probably would have been mugged  :biggrin:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:12:17 pm
(http://s26.postimg.org/5g6qcmg89/Capture.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:14:40 pm
What they are in for today FESH FESH

(http://s26.postimg.org/six9bshpl/motorcycle_fesh_fesh_02.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 08, 2015, 03:18:06 pm
(http://s26.postimg.org/5g6qcmg89/Capture.jpg)

Howzit Woody. You have link to this?
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: lpj on January 08, 2015, 03:20:13 pm
Riaan currently 14th at WP1, 1:48 behind.
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:21:26 pm
and another one   :biggrin:

(http://s26.postimg.org/swylbe1t5/motorcycle_fesh_fesh_03.jpg)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:22:59 pm
(http://s26.postimg.org/5g6qcmg89/Capture.jpg)

Howzit Woody. You have link to this?

http://gaps.dakar.com/2015/dakar/stage-05/aso/ukie.php (http://gaps.dakar.com/2015/dakar/stage-05/aso/ukie.php)
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:24:19 pm
Has anyone seen any route maps showing the way point locations?

Not available, I'm afraid. The maps I posted earlier are all that we have.

Wild Woody is smarter than me

No just faster  :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: Wild Woody on January 08, 2015, 03:33:54 pm
On the bright side today for ZAR riders

(http://s26.postimg.org/hynbt7d7t/Capture1.jpg)

Well done on 3rd overall in Malle Moto
Title: Re: DAKAR 2015 thread
Post by: roxenz on January 08, 2015, 03:34:05 pm
and another one   :biggrin:


Varksteaks! Lyk of daai ou 'n landmyn getrap het!  :o