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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 12:24:32 pm

Title: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 12:24:32 pm
Not trying to judge, I would just like to know what is it with brand bashing? I think if you are mal about a brand, and you proclaim that it's the best there is, nothing else compares..yada yada, then you set yourself up for disappointment. In my view, different brands have pros and cons when compared to each other, almost never will you be able to say this bike brand..this one beats all other bikes in the segment in all respects, hands down. I've had suzuki, honda, chinese special, BMW (current bike). Yes, I love my bonie, and it's reliable (so far), although there's been some issues that I've had to resort, even some design flaws. The other day I had to trim a sheat around the clutch fluid hose connected to the slave cylinder, because rust would accumulate there. I was in no way prepared to see the amount of rusty water that came out there after I did it... there are other design flaws as well. Did they resolve all of it with the R1200GS? I doubt it very much. And the new LC, even more. The thing is the engineers are not the only ones involved in designing a bike... it's not as many of us perceive, that version 2.0 would be better than version 1.9..that all the flaws were identified with previous bike, and solved with new. There is also thoughts about how expensive it is the build a bike, how long it takes to assemble, etc. Going off on a tangent here, to get back - why should I limit myself and be 'committed' to a certain brand bike? I have to swore allegiance to a brand? Sorry 2SD, I know you will be referred to in this thread - I did not try and target you at all. It's a thought I've had for quite a while. While I love my bike, I will admit that it's not perfect. One thing, of a few, was performance. I tried to get more out of her, and made some slight modifications, but...as we, or some of us know, it's never enough. So, If money was no issue, I'd look at KTM 1190, or the anticipated 1290... Or..Honda crossover, OR Triumph Explorer 1200, OR Yamaha super tenere, even the kawasaki versys 1000. There's no way I'm limiting myself to BMW, because all BMW bikes are most reliable, or the most rugged or whatever.  Tongue-in-cheek jest about 'my bike is better than yours', is not really what I'm referring to. It's more then die hard attitude, that will even make you ignore issues of a specific bike because of your allegiance, ignoring the fact that other brands have bikes that might not have that issue. That being said; let's not make this a serious topic, that was not the intention. We all share a common love for bikes and biking. That's common ground that we should remind ourselves of,  :ricky:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Edgar on August 21, 2014, 12:28:25 pm
Brand bashing is not only confined to bikes…. My girlfriend is a blond, so blond girls are the best! In the end no matter what colour her hair is they all give you the same shit!  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Gérrard on August 21, 2014, 12:31:25 pm
Brand bashing is not only confined to bikes…. My girlfriend is a blond, so blond girls are the best! In the end no matter what colour her hair is they all give you the same shit!  :imaposer:

And don't mind a bashing now and again  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: dieseldawie on August 21, 2014, 12:32:50 pm
Is this because I said they all ride down the Geel Streep?  >:D
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: silvrav on August 21, 2014, 12:35:03 pm
Brand bashing is not only confined to bikes…. My girlfriend is a blond, so blond girls are the best! In the end no matter what colour her hair is they all give you the same shit!  :imaposer:

have to agree there....blondes....mmmm. My wide did go red once...  :3some:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: DIRT SKUNK on August 21, 2014, 12:35:54 pm
Well said!
We each have our favourite Brands? I'm a Honda man
I for one do not believe that they are perfect bikes? close to purfect? but not purfect!
But I look at an MVAgust R1 and I start salivating?
Or ride a VStrom 650 and think wow what a great bike
Then I see a  CBr1000rr and I just want one!!!!
I enjoy the ribalding we dish out it keeps us sensible it keeps us sane?
DS  
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Manic on August 21, 2014, 12:38:45 pm
Ek is nie lus v baie lees nie.

Wat is eintlik die storie, ktm ok en Bmw kak?
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 12:42:44 pm
Is this because I said they all ride down the Geel Streep?  >:D

haha...no, guilty as charged..did it for a stint yesterday. Fortunately, I don't commute. I try not to do it, but if lane splitting is an issue in very slow traffic...I will, and I also did this with my other bikes..
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 12:43:13 pm
Ek is nie lus v baie lees nie.

Wat is eintlik die storie, ktm ok en Bmw kak?

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

ja...ek het te veel getik. wil ook gewoonlik nie lees nie.. dit gaan oor die feit dat nie BMW of KTM K@k is nie, albei het pros en cons net soos alle ander bikes
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mr Zog on August 21, 2014, 12:43:42 pm
Brand bashing is not only confined to bikes…. My girlfriend is a blond, so blond girls are the best! In the end no matter what colour her hair is they all give you the same shit!  :imaposer:

have to agree there....blondes....mmmm. My wide did go red once...  :3some:

Freudian slip  :peepwall:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: lj111 on August 21, 2014, 12:44:58 pm
Blykbaar anders om :thumleft:

Ek is nie lus v baie lees nie.

Wat is eintlik die storie, ktm ok en Bmw kak?
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 12:46:48 pm
Blykbaar anders om :thumleft:

Ek is nie lus v baie lees nie.

Wat is eintlik die storie, ktm ok en Bmw kak?

dis waarvan ek praat...
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Altie7deLaan on August 21, 2014, 01:25:30 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil.
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie.
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 01:38:21 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: DirtRebell on August 21, 2014, 01:48:46 pm
Ek sukkel om als te lees. Al wat ek sien is:

BMW bikes are most reliable
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Kenzogs on August 21, 2014, 01:56:50 pm
I juz dont unnerstan why more of you okes don't stick up for Hyosung  :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: cocky on August 21, 2014, 02:00:50 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mr Zog on August 21, 2014, 02:01:25 pm
I juz dont unnerstan why more of you okes don't stick up for Hyosung  :pot:

'cause we carry our passports...  :peepwall:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 02:01:49 pm
I juz dont unnerstan why more of you okes don't stick up for Hyosung  :pot:
Hyosung is cheapest!
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 02:03:03 pm
Ek sukkel om als te lees. Al wat ek sien is:

BMW bikes are most reliable

haha! But seriously, I know this is an issue with some of the R1150 guys...  I guess what happens with some of us, your too poor to afford a  new bike, and to take the bike in for repairs/maintenance, so we do it ourselves if we can -  and in the process, we think.. geez, I love this bike, it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg, can do most maintenance myself, it's generally reliable and I know the bike in and out - there's not better bike. I guess you also forge a relationship the more you struggle taking it apart and get to know the bike internally...here we go again  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 02:10:43 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mantis on August 21, 2014, 02:11:25 pm
The only sense I can read in all these posts : "Or ride a VStrom 650 and think wow what a great bike"  :peepwall:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 02:13:00 pm
The only sense I can read in all these posts : "Or ride a VStrom 650 and think wow what a great bike"  :peepwall:

I know deep down we feel like this, a lot of us, but... I wonder what would happen if we ALL take ALL other bikes for a day ride.... and we're honest about the results. I remember once taking an ol FJ1100 out for spin...all I could do is dream about that bike for months
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Lord Knormoer on August 21, 2014, 02:16:23 pm
Deel net eers aan die begin van die rit maatbande uit sodat almal kan meet wie's die grootste voor die evaluasie prosses begin. Dan is dit OK.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Omninorm on August 21, 2014, 02:20:37 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.





Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mr Zog on August 21, 2014, 02:26:32 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.




Ja, but some ride kakker bikes than others... apparently  :pot:  :imaposer:  :ricky:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Omninorm on August 21, 2014, 02:28:30 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.




Ja, but some ride kakker bikes than others... apparently  :pot:  :imaposer:  :ricky:

The only k@k bike are those ones with the 4 wheels.  Die KWAT bike. :D
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Omninorm on August 21, 2014, 02:29:52 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.




Ja, but some ride kakker bikes than others... apparently  :pot:  :imaposer:  :ricky:

The only k@k bike are those ones with the 4 wheels.  Die KWAT bike. or the ones you have to trap on your own to get moving  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: cocky on August 21, 2014, 02:30:21 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Kyk hier DOPTRIL, ek is n 68 model, nie 64 nie ..... nog baie tyd om te gaan. Betaal n slag "school fees".
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 02:35:43 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Kyk hier DOPTRIL, ek is n 68 model, nie 64 nie ..... nog baie tyd om te gaan. Betaal n slag "school fees".

Weet nie wat dit met julle ou toppies is dat julle jul so jonk wil hou nie, die girls gaan nog steeds vir julle oom sę en baie beslus nee oom.  :lol8:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Airguitar on August 21, 2014, 02:36:00 pm
Some okes can't go Bundu Bashing on that POS they call a bike, so they go brand bashing instead..   :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: cocky on August 21, 2014, 02:38:07 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Kyk hier DOPTRIL, ek is n 68 model, nie 64 nie ..... nog baie tyd om te gaan. Betaal n slag "school fees".

Weet nie wat dit met julle ou toppies is dat julle jul so jonk wil hou nie, die girls gaan nog steeds vir julle oom sę en baie beslus nee oom.  :lol8:
GRAPGAT .... met respek, FOK U.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mr Zog on August 21, 2014, 02:39:25 pm
Some okes can't go Bundu Bashing on that POS they call a bike, so they go brand bashing instead..   :pot:


Oooohhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Touche!!!  :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 02:40:20 pm
I do have preferences... and reasons for it, albeit superficial maybe... for example. I prefer Japanese ICE vehicles, because I perceive a sense of perfectionism among them. Stoopid examples, Toyota and Honda has not yet brought out turbo petrol models, where other have followed suit, even Mazda is lagging behind the 'new technology'. I think they resist because they are purists at heart, and that's the kind of engineer I want to design the engine of my vehicle. See 2SD, I'm on your side  ;D  I also like the Germans...haha! That's again my perception. Why does German products say on the label in bold with a German flag to boot" mad in Germany". Because, I think, there is a perception that products made in Germany are quality made...however, you get Opel that's German, and the old citi golf (volkwagen) which needed an overhaul at 160-180k km. I'm not particularly a BMW fan, i think their snobs and arrogant. but again, that's my perception - but I must admit, they know how to build engines.

In the end..how do we 'know' anything? very little can we be sure of.. even scientific knowledge remains man's interpretation of the world. With that in the end, I'd want to know the vision of a company, what is in their hearts? Is the MAIN thing what it is supposed to be? or..are their other priorities? Are they passionate about producing a quality bike that is the way they want it, a products they can be proud of? How much research and design? The other day I read about the triumph rocket cruiser, they rode on those bikes and finished 6000 tires, some riding 24/7 http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/triu/triumph_rocket_iii%2004.htm (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/triu/triumph_rocket_iii%2004.htm)

Why did they do this? I can just imagine that they wanted to be sure, that when this bike was released, it would be what they wanted it to be, and could be ridden reliably..that this bike would not bring shame to the Triumph brand...

Vir die wat lui is om te lees.... ek hou van n Triumph rocket
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: cocky on August 21, 2014, 02:43:18 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Kyk hier DOPTRIL, ek is n 68 model, nie 64 nie ..... nog baie tyd om te gaan. Betaal n slag "school fees".

Weet nie wat dit met julle ou toppies is dat julle jul so jonk wil hou nie, die girls gaan nog steeds vir julle oom sę en baie beslus nee oom.  :lol8:
GRAPGAT .... met respek, FOK U.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Omninorm on August 21, 2014, 02:46:16 pm
Some okes can't go Bundu Bashing on that POS they call a bike, so they go brand bashing instead..   :pot:

(http://www.motohouston.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49119&d=1316805799)

Dis wat ons Suzuki ouens verstaan  :laughing4: :imaposer: :ricky:



Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Grrrr.... on August 21, 2014, 02:46:48 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: heinzz on August 21, 2014, 02:47:31 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.







Not all, what about the thick skin poser with the Harley. Missing the HD bashing here. :laughing4:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 02:55:27 pm
dis maar simpel volroom.
jy ry wat jy wil. Stem 100% saam, daar is nie kak bikes nie net sensitiewe mense
as iemand se jy ry `n lekke bike, dan se jy dankie. Stem 100% saam, dit is baie goeie maniere
as iemand se jy ry `n crap bike, hanteer dit soos `n setpil. Hang af hoe jy die setpil hanteer, as jy daaroor gaan stress gaan jy jouself oop maak vir baie stirr en dan moet jy dit maar vat soos dit kom,
Jy nou alweer nie werk nie, of wil jy ons nou vertel van daai lorrie van jou met die 'tuning fork' simbool?

Moenie dink omdat jy nou 'n HALF EEU oud is jy kan hier kom blaf nie, ou man  :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Kyk hier DOPTRIL, ek is n 68 model, nie 64 nie ..... nog baie tyd om te gaan. Betaal n slag "school fees".

Weet nie wat dit met julle ou toppies is dat julle jul so jonk wil hou nie, die girls gaan nog steeds vir julle oom sę en baie beslus nee oom.  :lol8:
GRAPGAT .... met respek, FOK U.

Het sy dit net so gesę , hulle het ook fokol respek vir ouer mense meer vandag nie. :lol8:

Help nie jy raak kwaad vir hulle nie, dis maar die loop van die lewe om OOM te word,  OOM,  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 02:59:42 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

D@nner maar jy is nie lekker nie, daar word net van die goed gepraat wat kak is en baie kak gee, die Yammies het nie al daai kak nie daarom kan niemand iets sę nie. :deal: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Honda is ook nie kak nie maar ek verstaan dit is maar kak ouens wat hulle ry, :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Altie7deLaan on August 21, 2014, 03:30:16 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

gaan soek jy maar eerder skoor op `n ander thread, en bly weg van hierdie fabrikaat f*kkers kinkel.
jou bike is letterlik k*k, as ek so na die kiekies op hierdie forum kyk.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 21, 2014, 03:34:40 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

gaan soek jy maar eerder skoor op `n ander thread, en bly weg van hierdie fabrikaat f*kkers kinkel.
jou bike is letterlik k*k, as ek so na die kiekies op hierdie forum kyk.


Korrek !!!!!!!!!!!

Wie sou nou vanoggend gesę het ek gaan vandag saam met 'n Beemer man stem,  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: DirtRebell on August 21, 2014, 03:47:57 pm
ek hou van n Triumph rocket

Hos ja...
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on August 21, 2014, 03:54:32 pm
I have most popular brands in my garage. Except...

Those that have a badge cut in quarters....


Those are Kaka  :peepwall:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Altie7deLaan on August 21, 2014, 03:59:36 pm
well c`mon then, list the popular k*kka that is parked in your garage...
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on August 21, 2014, 04:11:29 pm
well c`mon then, list the popular k*kka that is parked in your garage...

  :laughing4: I do all the time read up!  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Swannie 685 on August 21, 2014, 04:59:37 pm
Ek wou ok gelees het wat Volroom skryf,maar daar is nie een paragraaf nie..net sinne..en sinne...en sinne...en my oë wou nie al die sinne so lekker lees nie. ;D

 :ricky:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Bensien on August 21, 2014, 05:09:42 pm
People who bash other brands do it so that they can feel better about their own choices. Except for KTM riders. We bash other brands because we feel sorry for the owners and are trying to make them see the light.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2014, 05:20:50 pm
I am not guilty of brand bashing.



I only bash BMW's.  Although more often than not, they manage quite well in bashing themselves. :3some:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: mtr89 on August 21, 2014, 05:27:37 pm
We wouldn't be men if we didn't give each other beans about owning different brands of bikes.surely?as long as it's all in jest then i don't see the problem.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2014, 05:33:28 pm
We wouldn't be men if we didn't give each other beans about owning different brands of bikes.surely?as long as it's all in jest then i don't see the problem.

This is the core of the problem.
If I was told; "your Yamaha is kak", I find no need to worry since I know it is untrue.

Why does BMW owners become so agitated when I say a BMW is kak? :ricky:

But, ultimately it is all in jest. It really is. How serious can a choice of bike be in the overall scheme of things??
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: JMG on August 21, 2014, 05:34:43 pm
This is rather interesting cause somewhere on FB somebody posted a post of if bikes were women, it was rather accurate it was rather funny, and it represented almost all major brands and most guys had a good giggle or a funny comment but then the BMW guys arrived and got all agro...  Just spoilt the mood. I'll see if I can find it
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: JMG on August 21, 2014, 05:40:23 pm
 :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2014, 05:47:25 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Now the BMW guys sit with wet undies. Either out of upsetment or exitement. :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: jaybiker on August 21, 2014, 05:47:53 pm
I'm not gonna report it, but I'm sure somebody will...........
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2014, 05:50:06 pm
I'm not gonna report it, but I'm sure somebody will...........

Whoever does, is a twatwaffle. For sure.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: JK on August 21, 2014, 05:54:41 pm
A buddy of mine with a sideways pistoned block of flats ended up at the KTM stand at AMID and asked how the 1190 compares with the 1200 GS "Ga Poe". and  Complained to me how the guy ended up badmouthing the BM   ???
Did not like my comment thet  i dont see the problem as it sounded to me he got good advice  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Bells on August 21, 2014, 06:01:46 pm
Dink ook die brand bash is kak. Ry die bike wat vir jou lekker maak voel.

As een verskaffer rerig beter was in elke afdeling as sy teenstanders sou al die ander vervaardiggers uit besigheid uit gewees het. Dis soos om te se Toyota is beter as Ford. Wie gee om,ry net jou fiets


Honda CRF250R '10
Triumph Tiger 955i '06
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: whitedelight on August 21, 2014, 06:04:35 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.







Not all, what about the thick skin poser with the Harley. Missing the HD bashing here. :laughing4:

What bike is that in your avatar??
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: heinzz on August 21, 2014, 06:07:33 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.







Not all, what about the thick skin poser with the Harley. Missing the HD bashing here. :laughing4:

What bike is that in your avatar??

Harley, hence my comment. :thumleft:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: whitedelight on August 21, 2014, 06:10:30 pm
All that I got out of those threads is that the Suzuki and Honda guys need to start their own brand bashing threads.

It's just KTM this and BMW that and Yamaha this...

And then the Kawasaki guys can join the Triumph guys in the quiet corner when they get here... .
 ;D   :pot:

Cmon man, the world would be a boring place if we all rode the same thing or expected others to follow suit whith what we do.
I like different bikes from all the brands. All brands have their runts of the litter and each of us have reasons for not liking bike A or B.
Why try and force what you got onto someone else. You can give advise and give opinions but let the person do what they feel best. And when their bike brakes no matter what brand help the dude out without making him feel worse about his bad luck.

We are all bikers at the end of the day.







Not all, what about the thick skin poser with the Harley. Missing the HD bashing here. :laughing4:

What bike is that in your avatar??

Harley, hence my comment. :thumleft:

 :ricky: :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 06:31:19 pm
is it true? Are BMW guys sensitive to critique about our bikes, more than others? Here's a little exercise then: list three things that you like about another brand of bike, besides your own, things that you wished were true of your bike   :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 06:32:11 pm
ek hou van n Triumph rocket

Hos ja...

that is... :eek7:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2014, 06:35:36 pm
is it true? Are BMW guys sensitive to critique about our bikes, more than others? Here's a little exercise then: list three things that you like about another brand of bike, besides your own, things that you wished were true of your bike   :pot:

I would like the suspension off a 690,
the reliability of my Yamaha,
the fuel efficiency of the 650 Rotax.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Lord Knormoer on August 21, 2014, 06:45:13 pm
is it true? Are BMW guys sensitive to critique about our bikes, more than others? Here's a little exercise then: list three things that you like about another brand of bike, besides your own, things that you wished were true of your bike   :pot:

I would like the suspension off a 690,
the reliability of my Yamaha,
the fuel efficiency of the 650 Rotax.

Ai, op pad EC Bash toe het ek gesien hoe Alex daai 690 se veerstelsel stukkend ry, is daar nie 'n beter opsie nie?

Ek stem saam oor die brandstof verbruik, my 1200 drink meer as my kar!
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: JMG on August 21, 2014, 06:47:08 pm
The colors from a 990 (white adventure)
The longer engine life of the GS
The nimbleness of a XR 650
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 21, 2014, 06:49:49 pm
performance of KTM
reliability of oilhead
suspension of ...Ohlins
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Omninorm on August 22, 2014, 11:08:02 am
is it true? Are BMW guys sensitive to critique about our bikes, more than others? Here's a little exercise then: list three things that you like about another brand of bike, besides your own, things that you wished were true of your bike   :pot:

Very easy for me  a bit higher and a bit lighter and MAYBE a 21" front. Truly, utterly without joke...if I had that there is not 1 aspect of any other bike I would want in addition to my Vstrom. It's perfect for me everywhere else.

Maybe it will come  :thumleft:

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc268/SHIIIIIIIT/2015_V-Strom_zps2a608ff4.jpg)

 :ricky:

Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: monkeyboy on August 22, 2014, 11:40:51 am
The noise of a KTM. I actually dig 'em, but orange just doesn't suit me.




Sent via my Android, while drinking Vida coffee, in my Levi's and Wolverine boots. Because I'm worth it.  8)
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: TheBear on August 22, 2014, 11:46:36 am
is it true? Are BMW guys sensitive to critique about our bikes, more than others? Here's a little exercise then: list three things that you like about another brand of bike, besides your own, things that you wished were true of your bike   :pot:

I ride a 2014 R1200GS LC:

- Would have loved it to have a V-configuration engine, V2 as per VStrom or KTM, or even V4 as per Honda.
- Would have preferred a more robust screen adjustment system.
- Would have preferred the GPS integrated in dash, rather than a pretty amateur add-on as per Yamaha.  


Ek stem saam oor die brandstof verbruik, my 1200 drink meer as my kar!

Ry die LC stadiger, of die kar harder.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 22, 2014, 11:54:07 am

Die klank van 'n 990 met 'n nice stel aftermarket pype,  :thumleft:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: volroom on August 22, 2014, 12:45:59 pm
I guess in life we have to make due with imperfection. We get bikes, and sell them again because possibly the cons outweigh the pros for us, at that time. Funny thing is that we don't all end up with the same kind of bike, it remains varied. This shows how subjective we are. One guy loves this bike for 10 'good reasons', while the other might hate it for the same reasons. So...brand bashing is possibly inevitable, but also futile. I guess it's more complex, it always is. Say we had our own quality control, we agree on certain criteria and ways to establish whether a bike conforms to these, we could then say this bikes makes it, but this one does not...but aint nobody got time for dat! Being scientific and not anecdotal requires a lot of effort and time. So, most of us will like certain bike brands because a friend has this experience, I have such an experience with this bike, a lot of people have this kind of experience with that bike - it's the best we can do, and not totally without merit. Testimonials are powerful, if true. Just thinking of myself, seeing a R1150GS speedo with 400 000km on the clock (without an overhaul) strengthens confidence in the reliability of these machines. I actually haven't seen this, but it would...wouldn't it?
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Ortos on August 22, 2014, 01:24:55 pm
Is this because I said they all ride down the Geel Streep?  >:D
............or on the Gemak Stoel
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Garfield on August 22, 2014, 02:57:04 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

Op hierdie stadium is daar so baie recalls op die 1190 en LC die twee speel "Wie is die kakste" leapfrog.




















































 :peepwall: net 'n grappie!!!!!!!
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Grrrr.... on August 22, 2014, 03:00:30 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

gaan soek jy maar eerder skoor op `n ander thread, en bly weg van hierdie fabrikaat f*kkers kinkel.
jou bike is letterlik k*k, as ek so na die kiekies op hierdie forum kyk.


En jy is...?  ???

To quote Jimmy Carr..... erm... dear Auntie7delaan.

"If you would like my comeback you will have to scrape it off your mom's teeth".

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Gifs/giphy_zps4ba78461.gif) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Gifs/giphy_zps4ba78461.gif.html)
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Firecoast on August 22, 2014, 03:02:50 pm
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: THROTTLE JOCKEY on August 22, 2014, 03:05:30 pm
 :diablo_ani_fire:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Firecoast on August 22, 2014, 03:07:18 pm
:diablo_ani_fire:

Agh go away, your KTM is shit!  :P :peepwall:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: cocky on August 22, 2014, 03:07:29 pm

Die klank van 'n 990 met 'n nice stel aftermarket pype,  :thumleft:
Daarsy Bak Ore, jy kom reg chap!
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: jaybiker on August 22, 2014, 04:00:10 pm
Attributes of three other bikes, you ask? Hmmm, wouldn't ask much really.
Weight of a trials bike.
Power of a 1190.
Price of a Gomoto.
Yeah, I think that about covers it. :biggrin:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 22, 2014, 04:45:19 pm
Attributes of three other bikes, you ask? Hmmm, wouldn't ask much really.
Weight of a trials bike.
Power of a 1190.
Price of a Gomoto.
Yeah, I think that about covers it. :biggrin:

Uitgevreet. :ricky:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Garfield on August 22, 2014, 07:08:08 pm
:biggrin:

Hoekom paddatjie?
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Firecoast on August 22, 2014, 07:14:33 pm
:biggrin:

Hoekom paddatjie?

Agh was net in 'n liefdevolle mood poepie!  :lol8:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Garfield on August 22, 2014, 08:16:04 pm
:biggrin:

Hoekom paddatjie?

Agh was net in 'n liefdevolle mood poepie!  :lol8:

 :imaposer: ja OK, dit gebeur mos maar  :thumleft:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Rocky58 on August 22, 2014, 10:23:01 pm
I don't know the difference between a sprocket and a spark plug . I just like to piss of the KTM boys specially THROTTEL JOCKEY
But then again if you ride a BMW nothing ever breaks , so it is OK to know zip
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 22, 2014, 10:27:10 pm
I don't know the difference between a sprocket and a spark plug . I just like to piss of the KTM boys specially THROTTEL JOCKEY
But then again if you ride a BMW nothing ever breaks , so it is OK to know zip

If nothing ever breaks, why have ze got ze Toyota bakkie und ze treiler, wif ze number of ze ASSIST?? >:D

 :pot:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Goose on August 22, 2014, 10:31:15 pm
Blykbaar anders om :thumleft:

Ek is nie lus v baie lees nie.

Wat is eintlik die storie, ktm ok en Bmw kak?

dis waarvan ek praat...

ziczactly!!  ons behoort eintlik maar net te aanvaar hulle is almal kark............ behalwe die ou Yammies...........  :peepwall:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 22, 2014, 10:45:56 pm
I am also a bit disillusioned with Modern Yamahas. My new 2000 model XT600E has got 74000kms on it, and has already eaten a instrument illuminating globe.
Fokken R3 net daar. :xxbah:

And there were'nt even assist to come and load it, had to ride home with a dark revcounter.........nor does Yamaha offer trauma counseling like ze motorrad muffcake gang.
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Mantis on August 22, 2014, 10:58:02 pm
I am also a bit disillusioned with Modern Yamahas. My new 2000 model XT600E has got 74000kms on it, and has already eaten a instrument illuminating globe.
Fokken R3 net daar. :xxbah:

And there were'nt even assist to come and load it, had to ride home with a dark revcounter.........nor does Yamaha offer trauma counseling like ze motorrad muffcake gang.

Pathetic, you will have to sell her immediately, no on deserves to suffer from such a traumatic event  :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Jakkals on August 23, 2014, 07:31:22 am

Die klank van 'n 990 met 'n nice stel aftermarket pype,  :thumleft:
Daarsy Bak Ore, jy kom reg chap!

Ok, almal behalwe Cockerman se 990, syne klink somer kak, eintlik is hy die enigste wat 'n kak 990 ry. :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: lecap on August 23, 2014, 07:38:46 am
...
But then again if you ride a BMW nothing ever breaks...

:laughing4:

... so it is OK to know zip

Obvious ::)
Title: Re: brand bashing
Post by: Altie7deLaan on August 24, 2014, 07:32:43 pm
Die Yamaha boys is net bitter... Hulle het gedink toe daai oil tanker released is sal daar 'n paar Yamaha vs KTM of BMW vs Yamaha threads wees maar toe bly dit net aan gaan, KTM vs BMW.

Ek kry die ouens amper jammer.... dit is sad.

Maar al julle bikes is k@k.

gaan soek jy maar eerder skoor op `n ander thread, en bly weg van hierdie fabrikaat f*kkers kinkel.
jou bike is letterlik k*k, as ek so na die kiekies op hierdie forum kyk.


En jy is...?  ???

To quote Jimmy Carr..... erm... dear Auntie7delaan.

"If you would like my comeback you will have to scrape it off your mom's teeth".

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Gifs/giphy_zps4ba78461.gif) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Gifs/giphy_zps4ba78461.gif.html)

Jinne is julle kempton manne almal so onbeskof?  Lyk my jy Mis jou rooi rocket?
Title: Re:
Post by: 2wdrift on August 25, 2014, 02:18:34 pm
I just want my 1190 to be as reliable as 2strokedan's xt.
Title: Re:
Post by: TheBear on August 25, 2014, 02:30:34 pm
I just want my 1190 to be as reliable as 2strokedan make us believe his xt is.

Fixed.
Title: Re:
Post by: 2wdrift on August 25, 2014, 03:31:02 pm
Valid point.....
Title: Re:
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 25, 2014, 04:26:49 pm
I just want my 1190 to be as reliable as 2strokedan make us believe his xt is.

Fixed.

The day I lie about a bike, even a Yammie's reliability, is when I start lying about my age. Self-deceiving?
Title: Re:
Post by: TheBear on August 25, 2014, 09:23:58 pm

The day I lie about a bike, even a Yammie's reliability, is when I start lying about my age. Self-deceiving?

Oh dear!  The kidder has gone al serious on us!   :laughing4:
Title: Re:
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 25, 2014, 09:41:02 pm

The day I lie about a bike, even a Yammie's reliability, is when I start lying about my age. Self-deceiving?

Oh dear!  The kidder has gone al serious on us!   :laughing4:

Yamaha reliability is indeed serious business.