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Title: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: plaky on September 01, 2014, 12:37:56 pm
So here is my dilemma, this morning on my way to work on my bike on the N1 between Durbanville and Cape Town, this white Ford Focus with number plate Schumi, straddles two right hand lanes. I am not sure where he is going left or right so I rev my motor instead of hooting as he is blocking two lanes in the peak hours traffic. When he eventually pulls into the right hand lane he leans across and very aggressively manner gives me the middle finger. I give him one back, which in hind site I should not have done and shake my head and amazed. My question is what would be the best way to handle this dude? I have seen him in the traffic before due to his number plate as I am a huge Schumi fan. It was the way he reacted that surprised me. Any suggestions for next time.

Schumie update 7 October 2014.

Right all, I came across my chommie this morning in the traffic coming off the N7 onto the N1, got it all on my action camera. I saw him in the distance and then rode next to him, he then gooi'd me the middle finger, see photo I took off my camera and by the way, his number plate is Schumie. When I slowed down and asked him with my hands why he gave me the middle finger he must have seen my camera and then smiled and a gave me a safe sign. His car's windows are tinted so you cannot see so lekker. Any update from anyone else on this dudette! See attached photo's. He took a lomg gap along the on ramp to cut into a few cars onto the N1, I do not know how to load a video onto here as we are limited for size. Happy to send to someone who can crop, reduce and send back to me and I will put it on. This dude needs a seriaaas attitude change!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: RobC on September 01, 2014, 12:39:08 pm
You need a dash/action cam. :sip:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: J-dog on September 01, 2014, 12:39:54 pm
do the same again, but without anger. I do it often in traffic, without malice or road rage. Or just smile and wave to the knot. That makes them even more riled up  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: Lommies on September 01, 2014, 12:44:06 pm
Yes, that Schumi WP guy is agressive and drives like a twat, also had a near get-together with him in Durbanville a month or so ago.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: RSA_Maniac on September 01, 2014, 01:08:06 pm
Agree, he is known in Durbanville for skipping robots etch as well.  Hope I get to meet him one day.....think a p.k. might be in order.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: plaky on September 01, 2014, 01:46:43 pm
Thanx for the feedback and so it seems to be the norm for him, it seems he has a total disregard for anyone else especially if he skips robots. Maybe he will pick on the wrong biker one day.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers
Post by: Matewis on September 01, 2014, 01:50:35 pm
Thanx for the feedback and so it seems to be the norm for him, it seems he has a total disregard for anyone else especially if he skips robots. Maybe he will pick on the wrong biker one day.

Or pick the wrong robot so jump and get side-swiped by a truck
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 08:33:36 am
You guys will not believe what happened this morning, who do I come across in the traffic again this morning but our Mr Schumi WP. I see him working the traffic and then ride up next to him slowly and look at him as his window is down as I want to see what this dude looks like, the next minute he goes off and tell me fok jou and po#s, and then gives me the middle finger again. All I did was look at this dide! I took J-Dogs advice and did not react in a negative way. I then slowed down and asked him what I did, he then continued to swear and throw signs at me. I then said he must be careful as there are a couple bikers looking out for him. He then got a gap and changed lanes away from me like he was running away. Maybe this guy is all brawn and no brains and his bark is bigger than his bite. I then said to him we are watching him..... I must say that this was quite fun this morning playing with him. This dude is a wack job and wish I had a go pro camera to record my actions,  what he said and how he reacted. His name would be gat in no time. Just to mess with him further can I lay a charge of verbal abuse and intimidation against him at a Police Station? Let me know.
It was de-je-v after yesterdays discussions!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Herklaas on September 02, 2014, 08:47:04 am
 :sip: I know of a Schumi WP, It's been a few years since I've seen him, is there a number like Schumi 1 or 3 The one I know drove an Audi, but could have changed cars.
Say what, we find out where he lives and a few box him in one morning. That will be fun.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 08:55:34 am
Dragonfly, I like the way you think! He will shit himself. I have no idea where he lives but travels on the N1 and I normally see him from the Plattekloof turnoff direction Cape Town from 7.25am onwards. His number plate only says Schumi WP. Maybe it is his boyfriends car that has the numbers!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Parkinoff on September 02, 2014, 08:56:46 am
:sip: I know of a Schumi WP, It's been a few years since I've seen him, is there a number like Schumi 1 or 3 The one I know drove an Audi, but could have changed cars.
Say what, we find out where he lives and a few box him in one morning. That will be fun.

That would be fun. I wanna be part of that. In the meantime get a dash cam before you lay a charge, record the abuse then go lay a charge.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 09:05:09 am
I was at Henk's place in Tankwa last year and came across a guy that had a go pro type camera that was build into his goggles! I do not want this huge camera mounted on the top of my helmet when riding my bike. Are there smaller versions that can clip on to the side of your helmet or clothing that is not bulky. This goggle camera you could hardly see it as it was so small and was around 10 million pixels! Any suggestions? I could start a reality series of commuting by bike in the mornings and what all I come across.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 02, 2014, 09:11:19 am
May I ask his... erm... ethnicity?

Basically is he a retarded sout piel?
Title: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Draadwerk on September 02, 2014, 09:20:56 am
Ok ok, I am on the next flight to Slaapstad. I will come and sort out the dude for you guys quickly.

Dammit. Soveel posts en niks word gedoen nie- aggenee !!!

Gaan praat met die man- hy mag mos nie so maak nie !!! 👍
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 09:30:18 am
May I ask his... erm... ethnicity?

Basically is he a retarded sout piel?


This dude is a wit ou and is afrikaans. He is giving our boertjie chommies a bad name! Looks over weight or is on steroids.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Herklaas on September 02, 2014, 09:31:38 am
 :sip: Ons het nie 'n agressiewe prokureur hier in slaapstad nodig nie jy sal net ons rus kom versteur met jou "demands" :bueller:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 02, 2014, 09:32:46 am
Seker 'n kragvarkie op steroids.

Hy sal homself binnekort uitvang en die verkeerde persoon skel, dan ky hy pakslae  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 02, 2014, 09:32:56 am
May I ask his... erm... ethnicity?

Basically is he a retarded sout piel?


This dude is a wit ou and is afrikaans. He is giving our boertjie chommies a bad name! Looks over weight or is on steroids.

Ah, then this is a different proes straat pretoria. So many of them these days it is difficult to keep track of them all....
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 09:36:52 am
Ok ok, I am on the next flight to Slaapstad. I will come and sort out the dude for you guys quickly.

Dammit. Soveel posts en niks word gedoen nie- aggenee !!!

Gaan praat met die man- hy mag mos nie so maak nie !!! 👍

Hey bru, check the mountain!!! Schweeet!
I have accommodation for you in Durbanville if you need any!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Offshore on September 02, 2014, 09:48:32 am
Seker 'n kragvarkie op steroids.

Hy sal homself binnekort uitvang en die verkeerde persoon skel, dan ky hy pakslae  :thumleft:
It is inevitable. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Howie-WP on September 02, 2014, 09:49:35 am
Why even bother with this guy? You know the plate, so when you see him just be careful. Anything else will just lead to a escalation, and you're never sure how that will turn out. Doing so is not admitting defeat or such like, the other option is not worth it.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Marvin on September 02, 2014, 10:38:24 am
Why even bother with this guy? You know the plate, so when you see him just be careful. Anything else will just lead to a escalation, and you're never sure how that will turn out. Doing so is not admitting defeat or such like, the other option is not worth it.
The voice of reason in the Wilddog pen.  :laughing4: But messign with the dude is more fun!  :deal:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 02, 2014, 10:46:27 am
Why even bother with this guy? You know the plate, so when you see him just be careful. Anything else will just lead to a escalation, and you're never sure how that will turn out. Doing so is not admitting defeat or such like, the other option is not worth it.

Hey, leave us internet tough guys with our bit of entertainment.  :lol8:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: jagter on September 02, 2014, 11:27:59 am
I think the plate must just be noted by all bikers. Not hard to remember.  

When the car ever happens to be parked somewhere remote, with no witnesses, the wheels must just miraculously lose all their air. Through no action of anyone on this forum.  Every single time the car is parked.

 
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Ortos on September 02, 2014, 12:23:44 pm
Easy send these guys a mail saying this twatwaffle is heading for a hiding and he`s making their cars name "gat"

www.FordSTOwnersSA.co.za (http://www.FordSTOwnersSA.co.za)
Ford ST Owners South-Africa


On another note; I had a run in with a taxi on the R55 a week back, the twatwaffle cut me off (woes) and at the next traffic light I spoke to him explaining that it was not polite (no physical contact - but close) to drive like a "JACK" and in about 2 seconds there were cell phones recording everything (probably be on you tube), when I realized the necessity of a gopro or the likes to record the original offence or there will only be one side.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: GRIM on September 02, 2014, 12:38:52 pm
I think the plate must just be noted by all bikers. Not hard to remember.  

When the car ever happens to be parked somewhere remote, with no witnesses, the wheels must just miraculously lose all their air. Through no action of anyone on this forum.  Every single time the car is parked.

 

Stealing all the wheelnuts is a lot more memorable...
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Tommy Transalp on September 02, 2014, 12:42:16 pm
I think the plate must just be noted by all bikers. Not hard to remember.  

When the car ever happens to be parked somewhere remote, with no witnesses, the wheels must just miraculously lose all their air. Through no action of anyone on this forum.  Every single time the car is parked.

 

Stealing all the wheelnuts is a lot more memorable...
Just ride past the car VERY closely!... so that it leaves an imprint on his paintwork... then nail him for straddling/changing lanes. >:D
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: EssBee on September 02, 2014, 12:46:16 pm
These types really really really piss me off...

Start a facebook page on the cnut....
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: mox on September 02, 2014, 12:51:41 pm
These types really really really piss me off...

Start a facebook page on the cnut....

Agreed !
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 02, 2014, 01:01:41 pm
These types really really really piss me off...

Start a facebook page on the cnut....

Agreed !

This dude probably does not have facebook! His ST seems well looked after and clean.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bundu on September 02, 2014, 01:37:53 pm
weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Alan on September 02, 2014, 02:04:06 pm
 >:D
Excellent idea. Clone his plate, and purposefully find some speed traps and blitz them! He'll REALLY love seeing those fines...   :lol8:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Abre on September 02, 2014, 02:04:28 pm
weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)


According to e-Natis SCHUMI WP is a 550 Maranello.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 02, 2014, 02:07:12 pm
weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)


According to e-Natis SCUMI WP is a 550 Maranello.

And this plate?

CA308014
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: punisher on September 02, 2014, 02:43:13 pm
The longer this knob is "allowed" to be cnut , the more chance he kills or maimes an innocent child
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Abre on September 02, 2014, 02:48:47 pm
weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)


According to e-Natis SCUMI WP is a 550 Maranello.

And this plate?

CA308014

Will send you a pm.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: IanC on September 02, 2014, 03:34:06 pm
According to e-Natis SCUMI WP is a 550 Maranello.
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Now no one has to get involved in a possible road rage incident. Report it to metro police with his normal route and he gets arrested for defeating the ends of justice. No more asshole on the road
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: EwaldSchmidt on September 02, 2014, 03:58:52 pm
Wasn't Schumi in hospital for brain damage recently?  Didn't know he moved to the Cape afterwards...
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Ortos on September 02, 2014, 04:16:07 pm
Wasn't Schumi in hospital for brain damage recently?  Didn't know he moved to the Cape afterwards...

 :laughing4:  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: whitedelight on September 02, 2014, 05:30:39 pm
Wasn't Schumi in hospital for brain damage recently?  Didn't know he moved to the Cape afterwards...

 :laughing4:  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Don't laugh he loves Cape Town,he used to spotted in Hout Bay a lot in the past.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: DirtRebell on September 02, 2014, 07:44:59 pm
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 03, 2014, 04:44:42 pm
weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)


I will have to take a photo of his number plate next time I see him in the traffic. I really do not remember seeing any numbers on his plate. Will double check next time. If so I will look for  cop along the way and tip him off. Karma is a beaaatch!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Lord Knormoer on September 10, 2014, 07:53:42 am
I found Schummi with the Ford Focus today. He took Durban road offramp onto N1 South just behind me at 6:30

Passed me 7 times between there and Sable Road, it was very amusing :imaposer:

He seems to alternate between sitting behind someone texting and racing through the next gap between texts.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Casting from Turd on September 10, 2014, 08:07:55 am
 :deal:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Mev Vis Arend on September 10, 2014, 08:19:30 am
I found Schummi with the Ford Focus today. He took Durban road offramp onto N1 South just behind me at 6:30

Passed me 7 times between there and Sable Road, it was very amusing :imaposer:

He seems to alternate between sitting behind someone texting and racing through the next gap between texts.

weird?
http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706 (http://www.opelclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=13706)


I will have to take a photo of his number plate next time I see him in the traffic. I really do not remember seeing any numbers on his plate. Will double check next time. If so I will look for  cop along the way and tip him off. Karma is a beaaatch!

Get Karma to work!   :ricky:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Nightwind on September 10, 2014, 08:19:53 am
Julle sal met hierdie ou moet praat. Iemand gaan seerkry. Hopelik net hy...
Lord Knormoer; jy moenie; jy onderhandel te goed. Iemand soos Vaalbaas met die tros vingers moet hom net orienteer. Een teen die oor; volgende teen die teer!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Hanno @ Mad Macs on September 10, 2014, 08:26:22 am
So the 550 Marranelo is Shumi WP

and the Ford Focus is Shummi WP ?

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 10, 2014, 10:26:54 am
So the 550 Marranelo is Shumi WP

and the Ford Focus is Shummi WP ?



Thanx Hando, this is what I have been wanting to check and have not seen the dude for a week now. I look for him everyday in the traffic to work. How does one find out who owns which number plate or do you need a connection at the traffic dept to get this info?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: moosehead on September 10, 2014, 02:41:33 pm
Hy vra eintlik n vraag met daai nommerplaat.....shoe me :pot:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: bomber on September 10, 2014, 06:13:44 pm
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Butch on September 11, 2014, 07:38:08 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

And he parks like a twatwaffle at P&P. Not that he can help but take up 2 parking spaces.  :P
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 11, 2014, 07:50:52 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

In what area do you live? Maybe we need to pay this dude a visit.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Omninorm on September 11, 2014, 07:52:01 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

Ok...so what did you do to make this beacon of light so angry? 690's baffle removed perhaps?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: DirtRebell on September 11, 2014, 08:14:48 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

.

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

And he parks like a twatwaffle at P&P. Not that he can help but take up 2 parking spaces.  :P


I've witnessed same last week at p an p.
Wish I had video recorded the hissy fit he had with the car guard who attempted assisting him with his trolley.

He is a Kant.
Kant en klaar
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 11, 2014, 09:50:02 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

.

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

And he parks like a twatwaffle at P&P. Not that he can help but take up 2 parking spaces.  :P


I've witnessed same last week at p an p.
Wish I had video recorded the hissy fit he had with the car guard who attempted assisting him with his trolley.

He is a Kant.
Kant en klaar

Isn't this the same proes straat pretoria Archangel had a run it?

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 11, 2014, 10:01:58 am
sounds like you have him, whos gonna pull him aside for a facts of life chat then?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 11, 2014, 10:29:51 am
sounds like you have him, whos gonna pull him aside for a facts of life chat then?

I am happy to wind him up but not sure how lekker this dude is, as I am afraid he might pull a gun or something if I am on my own. Maybe we need to get a couple of heavies together and pay the dude a visit and explain very nicely that he driving like a twatwaffle and endangering not only bikers lives but everyone he comes into contact with. If he sees that we know about him and that he cannot hide and the bikers are looking out for him, he may change his attitude. Can we get his name and do a search on him. I am sure many of us have connections to find out more about this dude.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 11, 2014, 10:37:55 am
fair enough, you mentioned he already thinks that bikers are after him. so probably wise not to poke this bear...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Casting from Turd on September 11, 2014, 05:03:26 pm
sounds like you have him, whos gonna pull him aside for a facts of life chat then?

I am happy to wind him up but not sure how lekker this dude is, as I am afraid he might pull a gun or something if I am on my own. Maybe we need to get a couple of heavies together and pay the dude a visit and explain very nicely that he driving like a twatwaffle and endangering not only bikers lives but everyone he comes into contact with. If he sees that we know about him and that he cannot hide and the bikers are looking out for him, he may change his attitude. Can we get his name and do a search on him. I am sure many of us have connections to find out more about this dude.
I might be in the cape in october. I can for laaik to be heafey

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Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Nightwind on September 12, 2014, 09:23:03 am
Hie hie...when you do, please record the discussion on an action camera. Would LOOVVEE to see the negotiations and outcome.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Divot on September 12, 2014, 10:11:43 am
 :peepwall:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: TheBear on September 12, 2014, 11:48:52 am
Seker 'n kragvarkie op steroids.

Hy sal homself binnekort uitvang en die verkeerde persoon skel, dan ky hy pakslae  :thumleft:
It is inevitable. :thumleft:

If it did not happen in the past five years, it's not going to happen in the next five.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 12, 2014, 11:58:43 am
Seker 'n kragvarkie op steroids.

Hy sal homself binnekort uitvang en die verkeerde persoon skel, dan ky hy pakslae  :thumleft:
It is inevitable. :thumleft:

If it did not happen in the past five years, it's not going to happen in the next five.


This is first time it has been brought to the forum, power to social media and pissed off bikers! I have not seen this dude the whole week. Very disappointed.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Gingerball on September 15, 2014, 08:27:03 am
Me thinks his pappie lives in Melkbosstrand and drives a bigfoot navara called Baas.  ::)

This chop lives 2 houses from me...  :dousing:

Seeing that you ride bike yourself and stay so close to him, he might also know where you live. So just be careful.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 08:50:31 am
I have heard that this poohs lives in Uitzicht.

He also likes to bully females in the traffic.

Likes to overtake on solid lines with oncoming traffic etc.

And if you object,his standard retort always includes f-bombs and p-bombs, even at females.

Some ladies in our neighbourhood watch have also complained about him.

Bomber, am I on the right track here?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 15, 2014, 09:08:22 am
I have heard that this poohs lives in Uitzicht.

He also likes to bully females in the traffic.

Likes to overtake on solid lines with oncoming traffic etc.

And if you object,his standard retort always includes f-bombs and p-bombs, even at females.

Some ladies in our neighbourhood watch have also complained about him.

Bomber, am I on the right track here?

Ek dink hier word van twee verskillende d00ste gepraat, een in Melkbos en een in die noordelike dele...
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 15, 2014, 09:28:22 am
I have heard that this poohs lives in Uitzicht.

He also likes to bully females in the traffic.

Likes to overtake on solid lines with oncoming traffic etc.

And if you object,his standard retort always includes f-bombs and p-bombs, even at females.

Some ladies in our neighbourhood watch have also complained about him.

Bomber, am I on the right track here?

Ek dink hier word van twee verskillende d00ste gepraat, een in Melkbos en een in die noordelike dele...


Agreed two different people. That dude drive a white Nissan bakkie. Does anyone know what happened to his court case a while ago? There was a witch hunt for the guy and then he handed himself over to the police. Never heard the final outcome of this.
The other dude is Schummi WP in a white Ford Focus. Maybe they are brothers!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 09:30:50 am
Ek praat nie van die Navara nie.

Het mis verstaan.

Ek praat van die Schummi Ford Focus ST

Die mense in Durbanville soek sy bloed.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 15, 2014, 09:40:48 am
Ja die Focus en die Navara is twee verkillende dOOste, maar dit lyk of Shummi binnekort op sy moer gaan kry  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 15, 2014, 09:42:49 am
Ek praat nie van die Navara nie.

Het mis verstaan.

Ek praat van die Schummi Ford Focus ST

Die mense in Durbanville soek sy bloed.


Sorry Garfiled,  there was another dude like this in Tableview doing the same thing. So you saying this Shummi guy is causing kak with woman and anyone else wherever he goes? There is one thing I do not tolerate and that is a man bullying a woman. If I see this I will step in and take him on. There was a simular guy targeting woman and Kenridge school and my wife took him on one day and told him his fortune. I also got my chance at a parent/teachers meeting and warned him that should he ever try that stunt with my wife again, we will bump heads. Never heard from him again! I do not advocate violence but sometimes one has to in person inform them nicely to behave otherwise they will suffer the consequences.

Sorry Guys, it was Bus and not Garfield I am replying to. Saw that now!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 09:45:44 am
Mens moet nooit jou d00ste verwar nie, LOL!!!

Ja, the Focus ST Schummi guy is well known for being a pig on the road.

I had a street name in Uitzicht for him, just looking for it now.

 ;)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 15, 2014, 09:56:19 am
Many years ago, in Pretoria, a colleagues wife was pushed off the road by someone like this, she apparently cut him off (which was likely since she was a bit dof in traffic  :biggrin: ).

Anyway, he pushed her off the road, pulled her out of the car and slapped her, then left the scene.

Fortunately her mother was also in the car and took his registration number, which I had traced.

The colleague was livid, but also the type of person who could not hurt a fly.

I devised a plan (no violence involved), and am quite sure he is a very courteous driver after the plan was executed  :lamer:

Shummi sal binnekort die verkeerde ou vloek, dan gaan hy sy gat sien, dit is net 'n kwessie van tyd.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Mikie on September 15, 2014, 10:01:25 am
Many years ago, in Pretoria, a colleagues wife was pushed off the road by someone like this, she apparently cut him off (which was likely since she was a bit dof in traffic  :biggrin: ).

Anyway, he pushed her off the road, pulled her out of the car and slapped her, then left the scene.

Fortunately her mother was also in the car and took his registration number, which I had traced.

The colleague was livid, but also the type of person who could not hurt a fly.

I devised a plan (no violence involved), and am quite sure he is a very courteous driver after the plan was executed  :lamer:

Shummi sal binnekort die verkeerde ou vloek, dan gaan hy sy gat sien, dit is net 'n kwessie van tyd.

Please share the plan
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Lord Knormoer on September 15, 2014, 10:09:54 am
Many years ago, in Pretoria, a colleagues wife was pushed off the road by someone like this, she apparently cut him off (which was likely since she was a bit dof in traffic  :biggrin: ).

Anyway, he pushed her off the road, pulled her out of the car and slapped her, then left the scene.

Fortunately her mother was also in the car and took his registration number, which I had traced.

The colleague was livid, but also the type of person who could not hurt a fly.

I devised a plan (no violence involved), and am quite sure he is a very courteous driver after the plan was executed  :lamer:

Shummi sal binnekort die verkeerde ou vloek, dan gaan hy sy gat sien, dit is net 'n kwessie van tyd.

Please share the plan

He probably wrote a strongly worded letter which he lit on fire and dropped in the offenders gas tank :imaposer:

I'm also now curious about "The Plan"
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Mikie on September 15, 2014, 10:12:15 am
Many years ago, in Pretoria, a colleagues wife was pushed off the road by someone like this, she apparently cut him off (which was likely since she was a bit dof in traffic  :biggrin: ).

Anyway, he pushed her off the road, pulled her out of the car and slapped her, then left the scene.

Fortunately her mother was also in the car and took his registration number, which I had traced.

The colleague was livid, but also the type of person who could not hurt a fly.

I devised a plan (no violence involved), and am quite sure he is a very courteous driver after the plan was executed  :lamer:

Shummi sal binnekort die verkeerde ou vloek, dan gaan hy sy gat sien, dit is net 'n kwessie van tyd.

Please share the plan

He probably wrote a strongly worded letter which he lit on fire and dropped in the offenders gas tank :imaposer:

I'm also now curious about "The Plan"

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Ratel on September 15, 2014, 10:14:23 am
Yes please, sounds like a lekke story :biggrin:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 15, 2014, 11:32:47 am
Sorry, meetings  ::)

It went like this...

It involved the following:

- ex-wife who worked for the licensing department and could trace registration and provide address, phone number etc.
- 2 x Zimbo illegal immigrants
- Hilux bakkie with numberplates and license disk removed
- 2 x pick-axes bought from hardware store

The plan:

- Obtain address and contact detail, call and under the guise of insurance salesman confirm it is the correct d00s
- Remove number plates and identifying detail from white Hilux
- Buy 2 x pick-axes from hardware store
- Pick up 2 x illegal immigrants from the nearest street corner where they are looking for work, and "employ" them
- Drive to d00s' house, drop off workers and instruct them to remove driveway paving since the new paving will be "done the following day, so julle moet wikkel"
- Leave and go to work for the day
- Drive by later the afternoon to observe 2 x illegal immigrants standing next to a pile of paving bricks arguing with d00s since they want to be paid for a job well done "hulle het ge-wikkel"
- After 2 x illegal immigrants eventually leave, each with a pick-ax follow them a few blocks, then pay each of them R100 for their hard work
- Go home and while having beers phone said d00s, informing him that this was a lesson about not hitting women, listen to him shout and scream over phone, laugh lots and have more beers

This was of course in the days before Calling-Line-Identifier and mobile phone cameras, not too sure I will try it again these days.

Cost: approximately R400.00
Satisfaction: Priceless

 
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Alan on September 15, 2014, 11:45:57 am
 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: friggs on September 15, 2014, 11:51:16 am
Wahahahahaha  :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Brilliant Garfield!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Vis Arend on September 15, 2014, 11:52:38 am
Wahahahahaha  :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

Brilliant Garfield!
+100  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 11:59:04 am
Just found some info

The Focus ST in our hood causing kak is apparently "red", and it is Schumie-WP. I also have the street name in Uitzicht...

(Waiting for final word on the color, possibly white & red)

Is this Focus all white?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: EssBee on September 15, 2014, 12:24:15 pm
@ Garfield....BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 15, 2014, 12:42:36 pm
Just found some info

The Focus ST in our hood causing kak is apparently "red", and it is Schumie-WP. I also have the street name in Uitzicht...

(Waiting for final word on the color, possibly white & red)

Is this Focus all white?

The Ford Focus ST is a white one and not Red. I have not seen a Red Schummi WP one unless he did a colour change to protect his life. I am looking for him in the mornings to take a photo of his number plate. Please send street name as if we do a regular drive by very slowly and look at his property, he will at some stage realize that something us up and that bikers are checking him out. We should actually organize a mass ride to his home and deliver a friendly note to inform him that he must now behave himself and the forum guys do not want to hear of any problems again re him. I am sure no matter how dof he may be, he will catch a huge skrik, I know I would shit myself.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 15, 2014, 12:50:33 pm
I will PM you the street name, don't have number though.

I will also drive past a few times this week and see if it is him.

Perhaps he has wrapped his car...
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: RSA_Maniac on September 15, 2014, 12:59:06 pm
Sorry, meetings  ::)

It went like this...

It involved the following:

- ex-wife who worked for the licensing department and could trace registration and provide address, phone number etc.
- 2 x Zimbo illegal immigrants
- Hilux bakkie with numberplates and license disk removed
- 2 x pick-axes bought from hardware store

The plan:

- Obtain address and contact detail, call and under the guise of insurance salesman confirm it is the correct d00s
- Remove number plates and identifying detail from white Hilux
- Buy 2 x pick-axes from hardware store
- Pick up 2 x illegal immigrants from the nearest street corner where they are looking for work, and "employ" them
- Drive to d00s' house, drop off workers and instruct them to remove driveway paving since the new paving will be "done the following day, so julle moet wikkel"
- Leave and go to work for the day
- Drive by later the afternoon to observe 2 x illegal immigrants standing next to a pile of paving bricks arguing with d00s since they want to be paid for a job well done "hulle het ge-wikkel"
- After 2 x illegal immigrants eventually leave, each with a pick-ax follow them a few blocks, then pay each of them R100 for their hard work
- Go home and while having beers phone said d00s, informing him that this was a lesson about not hitting women, listen to him shout and scream over phone, laugh lots and have more beers

This was of course in the days before Calling-Line-Identifier and mobile phone cameras, not too sure I will try it again these days.

Cost: approximately R400.00
Satisfaction: Priceless

 

I have spare pickaxes for you   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: katana on September 15, 2014, 01:01:37 pm
Just found some info

The Focus ST in our hood causing kak is apparently "red", and it is Schumie-WP. I also have the street name in Uitzicht...

(Waiting for final word on the color, possibly white & red)

Is this Focus all white?

The Ford Focus ST is a white one and not Red. I have not seen a Red Schummi WP one unless he did a colour change to protect his life. I am looking for him in the mornings to take a photo of his number plate. Please send street name as if we do a regular drive by very slowly and look at his property, he will at some stage realize that something us up and that bikers are checking him out. We should actually organize a mass ride to his home and deliver a friendly note to inform him that he must now behave himself and the forum guys do not want to hear of any problems again re him. I am sure no matter how dof he may be, he will catch a huge skrik, I know I would shit myself.

Been there, done that. Once upon a time in the wild Westrand.  My question is how far you are willing to go if he decides to defend himself against a mob. You will be the agressor in that case.  We see him as a coward.  He might be brave with a gun in his hands.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Scooterbike on September 15, 2014, 01:42:35 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 16, 2014, 09:59:43 am
This guy is indeed from Uitzicht.

It’s the same guy who has been causing kak in our neighbourhood.

He used to drive a red Focus ST, but it was written off. So he is now rolling in the white Focus ST.

With the Schummi-WP plates.

I spoke to people in his street, and apparently he is a problem resident as well.

The best medicine will be to report his kak driving (dunno how effective it will be)

Or try get him on video and take it to the cops.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Lommies on September 16, 2014, 10:16:36 am
This guy is indeed from Uitzicht.

It’s the same guy who has been causing kak in our neighbourhood.

He used to drive a red Focus ST, but it was written off. So he is now rolling in the white Focus ST.

With the Schummi-WP plates.

I spoke to people in his street, and apparently he is a problem resident as well.

The best medicine will be to report his kak driving (dunno how effective it will be)

Or try get him on video and take it to the cops.


Bus, does that address not fall under your jurisdiction? You can then play sheriff  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: jagter on September 16, 2014, 10:25:55 am
This guy is indeed from Uitzicht.

It’s the same guy who has been causing kak in our neighbourhood.

He used to drive a red Focus ST, but it was written off. So he is now rolling in the white Focus ST.

With the Schummi-WP plates.

I spoke to people in his street, and apparently he is a problem resident as well.

The best medicine will be to report his kak driving (dunno how effective it will be)

Or try get him on video and take it to the cops.


Try and figure out who he's insured with. One write off, and throwing in a couple of videos showing reckless driving might do wonders for his premiums.  With less money to go out and spend, he might have more time for introspection to realise what a twatwaffle he is.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 16, 2014, 10:28:49 am
hmmm sounds like this guy is a short a number or fuses if this gets noticed by everyone and sundry yet he still carries on... could also be a total idiot. proceed carefully or in great numbers!!!! or send in Turdie our big gun.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Pleco on September 16, 2014, 12:49:47 pm
 :sip:

This will be getting interesting. Lets see who can come up with the best anonymous idea to get the message across to this guy.

I agree. Too many guns around. And my experience, violence gets very bad and out of control very quickly if a face to face threat does not help
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 12:55:06 pm
Not anonymous after what's been said here.

:)


The best is to know that there are a couple of people that all have the same experience.

If 1 guy report someone to the authorities there's not much to go for, but if 20 people klap together and do it then there might be a case.

Any form of 'jungle justice' or confrontation (starting it, not necessarily responding to it) actually stoops to the level where one crosses from having a case against him to being like him.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Divot on September 16, 2014, 01:51:26 pm


Any form of 'jungle justice' or confrontation (starting it, not necessarily responding to it) actually stoops to the level where one crosses from having a case against him to being like him.


I disagree with you.

 I believe that one has to do what can be done to get a message across, he was and is the one who got everyone hot under the collar. We can not sit back and take the abuse of any nature and there is no recourse for the offender. The legal way is far too slow and 99% of the time will not pan out.

 I am not saying go in guns blazing but get creative with how we deal with it.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 16, 2014, 02:03:40 pm
Let's kill him until he is dead.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 16, 2014, 02:05:20 pm
Let's kill him until he is dead.
we can pin it on this guy aswell!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 02:09:59 pm
I believe that one has to do what can be done to get a message across, he was and is the one who got everyone hot under the collar. We can not sit back and take the abuse of any nature and there is no recourse for the offender. The legal way is far too slow and 99% of the time will not pan out.

 I am not saying go in guns blazing but get creative with how we deal with it.



And say someone decides to 'get creative'.

One scenario:
So now there's something that may or may not happen to him.
People talk about it.
Someone here reads it and decide to join in (ie 'PM me his address').

So that someone then decides to act out his creative side.

(Bear in mind this is might be a different someone from the one that had 1st hand experience with this tjop)

Then he rocks up there one day and maybe they meet face to face. Things turn ugly and things really turn serious. Someone gets hurt and questions are asked afterwards.
'Why did you confront him ?'.
'Someone told me he is being a prick'
'Who told you ?'

Links get made back to here and hey presto everyone on here that mentioned dishing out justice have their forum names translated (by power of the justice system) into real e-mail addresses and there you have an issue for a couple of people who all went on a retelling of an interaction.

Another option is that every guy that read the story here now 'interact' with him on some level when they encounter him on the road (regardless of if he actually did something wrong that day or not). He will learn to hate all bikers even more and it won't be long before he start to notice the paw on helmets and bikes.
Guys like this will not see reason - they will only learn to hate more.


Confronting someone (or even threatening him) from a platform like this is very dangerous. Especially since it is possible that one of the 'instigators' have a very subtle idea in mind (that might actually be fine), but someone else's idea of 'subtle' is to just un-holster his gun and showing it to the guy (instead of pointing it at him).

One should not start a mass retaliation on a public platform.

I do understand that the 'proper' channels doesn't guarantee getting anything done, but acting on something like this to 'get the message across' will guarantee that nothing will happen when official channels get involved after the fact. In fact - it might even backfire quite badly.

Proving that an oke was driving like a twatwaffle is difficult.
Proving that there was a conspiracy against said guy when it was planned/talked about on a public forum (and in a place on the forum where you don't have to be logged in to be able to see it) is going to be dead easy.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: PierreO on September 16, 2014, 02:23:12 pm
So it seems that he should be left alone for now . Maybe if some day he kill somebody he should be informed that's he is a bit of a dumb ass .
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 16, 2014, 02:27:09 pm
Whatever happens, if this guy's paving gets dug up, I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 02:34:09 pm
So it seems that he should be left alone for now . Maybe if some day he kill somebody he should be informed that's he is a bit of a dumb ass .

Or maybe someone goes and confront him on a bike and he just loses his cool (due to the 3 guys ahead of this one that did the same) and shunts that guy into oncoming traffic.

For fuck sakes - why does it always have to be a '100% there or none at all' approach ?

Saying to not apply mob justice isn't saying to do nothing.

It is saying to think it through and be mindful of the consequences before acting.
It is saying that if someone revert to underhanded tactics to 'counter' something like this you have given away the right to be right.
It is saying that going through the proper channels and getting everyone who's been 'wronged' by this guy to actually have a collective record of his behavior might be more productive than 'teaching him a lesson'

Fuck it - go and slash his tyres.
Go and visit him.
Threaten him.
Tell him off on the road.
Box him in in a mass action and make him hate bikers more (hell in that scenario you might even force his hand to bump someone out of the way and act all innocent afterwards as he felt 'threatened') (remember the video of the Land Rover owner that found himself (wrongly) on the wrong end of a bike gang?)
Send the big guys to intimidate him.

Just don't come back here and cry about the 'injustice' of it all when it backfires and things go the other way than intended and horribly wrong.


Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 16, 2014, 02:36:05 pm
I believe that one has to do what can be done to get a message across, he was and is the one who got everyone hot under the collar. We can not sit back and take the abuse of any nature and there is no recourse for the offender. The legal way is far too slow and 99% of the time will not pan out.

 I am not saying go in guns blazing but get creative with how we deal with it.



And say someone decides to 'get creative'.

One scenario:
So now there's something that may or may not happen to him.
People talk about it.
Someone here reads it and decide to join in (ie 'PM me his address').

So that someone then decides to act out his creative side.

(Bear in mind this is might be a different someone from the one that had 1st hand experience with this tjop)

Then he rocks up there one day and maybe they meet face to face. Things turn ugly and things really turn serious. Someone gets hurt and questions are asked afterwards.
'Why did you confront him ?'.
'Someone told me he is being a prick'
'Who told you ?'

Links get made back to here and hey presto everyone on here that mentioned dishing out justice have their forum names translated (by power of the justice system) into real e-mail addresses and there you have an issue for a couple of people who all went on a retelling of an interaction.

Another option is that every guy that read the story here now 'interact' with him on some level when they encounter him on the road (regardless of if he actually did something wrong that day or not). He will learn to hate all bikers even more and it won't be long before he start to notice the paw on helmets and bikes.
Guys like this will not see reason - they will only learn to hate more.


Confronting someone (or even threatening him) from a platform like this is very dangerous. Especially since it is possible that one of the 'instigators' have a very subtle idea in mind (that might actually be fine), but someone else's idea of 'subtle' is to just un-holster his gun and showing it to the guy (instead of pointing it at him).

One should not start a mass retaliation on a public platform.

I do understand that the 'proper' channels doesn't guarantee getting anything done, but acting on something like this to 'get the message across' will guarantee that nothing will happen when official channels get involved after the fact. In fact - it might even backfire quite badly.

Proving that an oke was driving like a twatwaffle is difficult.
Proving that there was a conspiracy against said guy when it was planned/talked about on a public forum (and in a place on the forum where you don't have to be logged in to be able to see it) is going to be dead easy.



Eisbein, you make some very relevant points and I agree with you in most cases. The issue that I have, which is quite tragic in SA, is that we have a driver like this that has total disrespect for everyone around him and he feels he is untouchable as he continues to intimidate people at random. How does one realistically approach this problem so that this dude will understands and get the message to refrain from acting the way he does? Will it take for him to hurt or worse, kill someone for something to be done. Then that is too late. I am all for a conservative approach as this hopefully will hopefully get the message across but some people just don't understand or want to understand as they think they are bullet proof. I certainly would not want to get injured or loose my life by confronting this guy, it is not worth it, but I would feel very shit if he kills a biker due to his arrogance and disrespect and we did not try and get our message across. I would be the first one to go and lay a complaint at the Police station but they have higher  priorities to deal with. It would probably get lost in the system and nothing will get done. So, back to my original question, what would be the best way to handle this situation that a satisfactory result will be achieved?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 16, 2014, 02:43:44 pm
write him a letter. telling him exactly how many people he endangers and are taking notice and what potentially LEGAL things could happen to him if he doesn't cut it out. and then see if his behavior changes. doesn't have to be dangerous or confrontational. polite and straight forward, maybe he doesn't even know? :bueller:

maybe cut out letters like in those serial killer movies for affect?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Mikie on September 16, 2014, 02:44:36 pm
write him a letter. telling him exactly how many people he endangers and are taking notice and what potentially LEGAL things could happen to him if he doesn't cut it out. and then see if his behavior changes. doesn't have to be dangerous or confrontational. polite and straight forward, maybe he doesn't even know? :bueller:

maybe cut out letters like in those serial killer movies for affect?  :imaposer:

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 16, 2014, 02:45:16 pm
I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 03:12:42 pm
Eisbein, you make some very relevant points and I agree with you in most cases. The issue that I have, which is quite tragic in SA, is that we have a driver like this that has total disrespect for everyone around him and he feels he is untouchable as he continues to intimidate people at random.

Unfortunately that rides on a bigger issue here in SA.
Taxi drivers have the transport system at gunpoint.
Normal road users are getting more and more aggressive and blatant in their disregard.

All seemingly untouchable.

I think Garfield is the closest in my mind:

I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.


I mean we now already have two (totally different) communities (here on WD's and the home owners guys where Bus lives) that can already 'klap' together in 'testifying' on this guy's road manners.

What to do with the testimonies is still up for a solution.

I do understand that people can feel like they want to do something radical about the issue though.

:(
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 16, 2014, 03:18:16 pm
I think Garfield is the closest in my mind:

What about my suggestion...?  :(
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 16, 2014, 03:21:47 pm
I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.

Please do, Garfield?

This is the only way to go. Keep everything above board.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 03:24:54 pm
I think Garfield is the closest in my mind:

What about my suggestion...?  :(

I am afraid killing him 'till he's dead might leave an option open for him to kill you right back.

;)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 16, 2014, 03:26:36 pm
I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.

Please do, Garfield?

This is the only way to go. Keep everything above board.

Sal so maak, 'n vriendin is deputy chief by die Metro Police, het vir haar email gestuur en raad gevra, sy sal weet wat gedoen kan word en ook wie ons kan kontak.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 16, 2014, 03:27:16 pm
I think Garfield is the closest in my mind:

What about my suggestion...?  :(

I am afraid killing him 'till he's dead might leave an option open for him to kill you right back.

;)

Not if he is the deadest first.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 03:27:58 pm
I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.

Please do, Garfield?

This is the only way to go. Keep everything above board.

Using the power of social media and the interweb to find info and get people together is awesome.

(like that guy in the white bakkie that was mentioned earlier)

People are way less anonymous nowadays.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 16, 2014, 03:29:10 pm
I will ask a friend in law enforcement what can legally be done if we find enough people willing to officially complain, give me a few days to do that and provide feedback.

Please do, Garfield?

This is the only way to go. Keep everything above board.

Using the power of social media and the interweb to find info and get people together is awesome.

(like that guy in the white bakkie that was mentioned earlier)

People are way less anonymous nowadays.



Which is also why "revenge" type tactics no longer work, someone will make a video and you will be ratted out.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 16, 2014, 03:31:56 pm
Which is also why "revenge" type tactics no longer work, someone will make a video and you will be ratted out.

Yeah - this knife cuts both ways.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: JohnB on September 16, 2014, 03:37:24 pm
 :thumleft:


write him a letter. telling him exactly how many people he endangers and are taking notice and what potentially LEGAL things could happen to him if he doesn't cut it out. and then see if his behavior changes. doesn't have to be dangerous or confrontational. polite and straight forward, maybe he doesn't even know? :bueller:

maybe cut out letters like in those serial killer movies for affect?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: 2wdrift on September 16, 2014, 03:53:57 pm
write him a letter. telling him exactly how many people he endangers and are taking notice and what potentially LEGAL things could happen to him if he doesn't cut it out. and then see if his behavior changes. doesn't have to be dangerous or confrontational. polite and straight forward, maybe he doesn't even know? :bueller:

maybe cut out letters like in those serial killer movies for affect?  :imaposer:

Just keep a copy so he can not claim that you threatened his life or safety or something else. Keep it clear and logical.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: steveindar on September 16, 2014, 04:03:48 pm
Have 6 cubes of redimix delivered to his doorstep!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: 2wdrift on September 16, 2014, 04:12:30 pm
Maybe the best would be to record his driving on a gopro or the like and show this to his girlfriend/wife/boyfriend or if he is single show it to his mom...  :peepwall:  :pot:

Let the family/friends sort his risky behavior out.

I know the photo's of me flipping hobie cats and crashing bikes gets my whole family on my case. I think a wife/girlfriend is worse.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Herklaas on September 16, 2014, 07:48:28 pm
This guy is indeed from Uitzicht.

It’s the same guy who has been causing kak in our neighbourhood.

He used to drive a red Focus ST, but it was written off. So he is now rolling in the white Focus ST.

With the Schummi-WP plates.

I spoke to people in his street, and apparently he is a problem resident as well.

The best medicine will be to report his kak driving (dunno how effective it will be)

Or try get him on video and take it to the cops.


Bus, does that address not fall under your jurisdiction? You can then play sheriff  :biggrin:

Ja I can just picture it "The showdown in Uitzicht Koraal"
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: gunsports on September 16, 2014, 09:50:28 pm
Contact Gouws. Tel the twatwaffle about another twatwaffle and watch a doods fight of epic proportions. No seriously: If enough guys contact Gouws, he will sort the man.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: 2wdrift on September 16, 2014, 10:08:07 pm
Contact Gouws. Tel the twatwaffle about another twatwaffle and watch a doods fight of epic proportions. No seriously: If enough guys contact Gouws, he will sort the man.

+1
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 17, 2014, 08:29:22 am
Right Guys, I had no idea that my thread would end up at 6 pages already and love the various angles that people have, from digging up pavements, 6 cubes of cement and to take the dude out etc, but what it does tell me as mentioned before how powerful social media is and that hopefully sanity will prevail. I at last got my Sony action camera on Tuesday and bought my head band mount yesterday and put it on my helmet last night with duct tape to keep the band from slipping down the helmet and have put my Helmet Skinz over it so it does not look stupid! Bring on Schummi WP and I will record him and the way he drives. I must say that I agree with Garfield, not that deep down I would like to go another route. The right way now is for him to chat to one of his law enforcement friends. Even if we have to sign an open letter to give them the right to manage this complaint and  to pay this dude a visit to inform him of his actions. This is now where I am not sure what will or can happen afterwards. This dude can tell all and sundry to piss off and the law must catch him in the act or he might actually change his ways. My personal opinion seeing what he has done he going to tell us all to piss off, so what then, we are back to square on?. Maybe then we should send Grrrrr in to pay him a visit! Seriously should he continue the way he has been, what then? This could be used as a case study going forward. Does anyone know a journalist that perhaps could write a story around this from beginning to end! Just some introspection.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 17, 2014, 08:33:04 am
If you see him, and he causes kak, report him to the cops, even without evidence.

If enough people make a noise, they must do something

Also log a report on www.roadhogs.co.za (http://www.roadhogs.co.za)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 17, 2014, 09:00:33 am
If you see him, and he causes kak, report him to the cops, even without evidence.

If enough people make a noise, they must do something

Also log a report on www.roadhogs.co.za (http://www.roadhogs.co.za)

Bus, thanx for this and just logged Schummi WP on Road Hogs. Do you think the law enforcement people check this out. I see there is some Cape Town driver who has had 17 reports against them! Eish they and Schimmi  WP could be family!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 17, 2014, 09:12:34 am
Maybe then we should send Grrrrr in to pay him a visit!

What am I supposed to do?

Gif him to death?

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Gifs/00003e94.gif) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Gifs/00003e94.gif.html)

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(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Gifs/batman-shark.gif) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Gifs/batman-shark.gif.html)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Pleco on September 17, 2014, 09:22:53 pm
Right Guys, I had no idea that my thread would end up at 6 pages already and love the various angles that people have, from digging up pavements, 6 cubes of cement and to take the dude out etc, but what it does tell me as mentioned before how powerful social media is and that hopefully sanity will prevail. I at last got my Sony action camera on Tuesday and bought my head band mount yesterday and put it on my helmet last night with duct tape to keep the band from slipping down the helmet and have put my Helmet Skinz over it so it does not look stupid! Bring on Schummi WP and I will record him and the way he drives. I must say that I agree with Garfield, not that deep down I would like to go another route. The right way now is for him to chat to one of his law enforcement friends. Even if we have to sign an open letter to give them the right to manage this complaint and  to pay this dude a visit to inform him of his actions. This is now where I am not sure what will or can happen afterwards. This dude can tell all and sundry to piss off and the law must catch him in the act or he might actually change his ways. My personal opinion seeing what he has done he going to tell us all to piss off, so what then, we are back to square on?. Maybe then we should send Grrrrr in to pay him a visit! Seriously should he continue the way he has been, what then? This could be used as a case study going forward. Does anyone know a journalist that perhaps could write a story around this from beginning to end! Just some introspection.

Tygerburger always looking for a story. But you will need some video. They try to only write from facts. Too exposed to being sued. Especially by types like this kneecap
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: T Rex on September 18, 2014, 03:02:03 am
 :sip:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Jman on September 18, 2014, 05:27:52 am
I always wonder what these okes do for a living, or if they have families and if they act at work and home the same way they do in traffic.  Rather drop a voucher for a psychiatrist into his post box or hire him a free "metgesel".  I bet it is one of those issues:  een van sy koppe raas.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 18, 2014, 06:12:54 pm
Right Guys, I had no idea that my thread would end up at 6 pages already and love the various angles that people have, from digging up pavements, 6 cubes of cement and to take the dude out etc, but what it does tell me as mentioned before how powerful social media is and that hopefully sanity will prevail. I at last got my Sony action camera on Tuesday and bought my head band mount yesterday and put it on my helmet last night with duct tape to keep the band from slipping down the helmet and have put my Helmet Skinz over it so it does not look stupid! Bring on Schummi WP and I will record him and the way he drives. I must say that I agree with Garfield, not that deep down I would like to go another route. The right way now is for him to chat to one of his law enforcement friends. Even if we have to sign an open letter to give them the right to manage this complaint and  to pay this dude a visit to inform him of his actions. This is now where I am not sure what will or can happen afterwards. This dude can tell all and sundry to piss off and the law must catch him in the act or he might actually change his ways. My personal opinion seeing what he has done he going to tell us all to piss off, so what then, we are back to square on?. Maybe then we should send Grrrrr in to pay him a visit! Seriously should he continue the way he has been, what then? This could be used as a case study going forward. Does anyone know a journalist that perhaps could write a story around this from beginning to end! Just some introspection.

Tygerburger always looking for a story. But you will need some video. They try to only write from facts. Too exposed to being sued. Especially by types like this kneecap

Great ideas re Tygerburger. I am working on the video footage. I have my new action cam strapped to my helmet and it will only be time until I bump in to Schummi WP and will get what we are looking for. Image he now smiles and waves to me, I will be so pissed off! I guess not!!!!!



Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 19, 2014, 08:01:44 am
Well, we discussed him on our NHW FB page, and it was basically agreed that as many people as possible would be looking for him with video/dash cameras, and it would be taken to the authorities.

He is not one of our members, as he is from an adjacent neighbourhood. But apparently he got word of it. So he has friends in our area who would have given him the info.

So in theory, he should behave for a little while, as he now knows that people will start collecting evidence of his driving habits.

But let's see...

 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Poffmuis on September 19, 2014, 08:16:42 am
Well, we discussed him on our NHW FB page, a

Klink my julle NHW operate nogal en dat jy dit hopeloos te veel geniet om polisie man te speel. Bygesź jy het die regte houding vir dit...  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Pleco on September 19, 2014, 08:30:25 am
Hier kom n "TSEK!"  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Garfield on September 19, 2014, 08:53:43 am
OK, so the feedback I have is this...

Please collect evidence, be that video, photo or written statements from anyone willing to do so.

Do not attempt to play cop on this yourself, as this will turn him into the victim in the eyes of the law, i.e. keep everything as free from emotion as possible.

As soon as there is any tangible evidence of dangerous or reckless driving, or even him swearing at something else contact me, I will make sure it reaches the correct person, and it will lead to him being warned first, then it could go to him being fined, and even arrested if the offences and evidence warrant it.

Putting photo and video out on social media can do no harm, as long as it is once again done without giving the person the chance to turn himself into a victim.

Let's try and bring people like this to justice correctly, it will take patience and self control but is the only correct way to deal with it.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Eisbein on September 19, 2014, 09:29:07 am
Please collect evidence, be that video, photo or written statements from anyone willing to do so.

Do not attempt to play cop on this yourself, as this will turn him into the victim in the eyes of the law, i.e. keep everything as free from emotion as possible.

Cool!

Thanks for finding out.



I don't think it needs to be said, but then again common sense is glad nie so common nie, so here goes: Provoking the guy into acting like a drol to record evidence of his 'drol-ness' will also make him look like the victim, so to go and intimidate/irritate him to get a reaction will have the opposite effect of what needs to be done.

 
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on September 19, 2014, 09:30:31 am
Well, we discussed him on our NHW FB page, a

Klink my julle NHW operate nogal en dat jy dit hopeloos te veel geniet om polisie man te speel. Bygesź jy het die regte houding vir dit...  :peepwall:

NHW?

Noole het wiele?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: Bus on September 19, 2014, 09:31:47 am
Well, we discussed him on our NHW FB page, a

Klink my julle NHW operate nogal en dat jy dit hopeloos te veel geniet om polisie man te speel. Bygesź jy het die regte houding vir dit...  :peepwall:

NHW?

Noole het wiele?

Gaan werk, d00s!!!

Jy en Poefmuis
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: cocky on September 19, 2014, 09:35:44 am
Well, we discussed him on our NHW FB page, a

Klink my julle NHW operate nogal en dat jy dit hopeloos te veel geniet om polisie man te speel. Bygesź jy het die regte houding vir dit...  :peepwall:

NHW?

Noole het wiele?
Noole Het Wiele!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: plaky on September 19, 2014, 12:44:28 pm
My chommie Schummi WP nowhere to be seen this morning, it is my first day with the action cam strapped to my helmet! Great footage bit no Shummi WP! Got video of a taxi being normal.....not!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: dirtyXT on September 19, 2014, 12:57:18 pm
My chommie Schummi WP nowhere to be seen this morning, it is my first day with the action cam strapped to my helmet! Great footage bit no Shummi WP! Got video of a taxi being normal.....not!
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: garye on September 19, 2014, 02:06:31 pm
To confuse the issue even further. I was in Frans Conradie St yesterday and saw a GOLD Audi Q5 with the number plate
SHUMI 7.
Whats with everyone wanting the same plate??
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: DirtRebell on September 19, 2014, 02:22:05 pm
I was going to say that these people with Shummi related plates seem rather brain dead, but the pun would would be a tad wtf.

Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: plaky on October 07, 2014, 09:27:22 am
Check my update at the start of my thread with photo's!!!! Finally video's him!!!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Bundu on October 07, 2014, 11:07:13 am
So here is my dilemma, this morning on my way to work on my bike on the N1 between Durbanville and Cape Town, this white Ford Focus with number plate Schumi, straddles two right hand lanes. I am not sure where he is going left or right so I rev my motor instead of hooting as he is blocking two lanes in the peak hours traffic. When he eventually pulls into the right hand lane he leans across and very aggressively manner gives me the middle finger. I give him one back, which in hind site I should not have done and shake my head and amazed. My question is what would be the best way to handle this dude? I have seen him in the traffic before due to his number plate as I am a huge Schumi fan. It was the way he reacted that surprised me. Any suggestions for next time.

Schumie update 7 October 2014.

Right all, I came across my chommie this morning in the traffic coming off the N7 onto the N1, got it all on my action camera. I saw him in the distance and then rode next to him, he then gooi'd me the middle finger, see photo I took off my camera and by the way, his number plate is Schumie. When I slowed down and asked him with my hands why he gave me the middle finger he must have seen my camera and then smiled and a gave me a safe sign. His car's windows are tinted so you cannot see so lekker. Any update from anyone else on this dudette! See attached photo's. He took a lomg gap along the on ramp to cut into a few cars onto the N1, I do not know how to load a video onto here as we are limited for size. Happy to send to someone who can crop, reduce and send back to me and I will put it on. This dude needs a seriaaas attitude change!

you can open a youtube account and upload the video there
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: RobC on October 07, 2014, 01:02:00 pm
I was going to say that these people with Shummi related plates seem rather brain dead, but the pun would would be a tad wtf.


:laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: EssBee on October 07, 2014, 01:08:15 pm
Check my update at the start of my thread with photo's!!!! Finally video's him!!!

So...he give you the finger just because you were riding next to him??? Geeze, what a knob! Well done for tracking the cnut down and getting some footage.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: plaky on October 07, 2014, 01:30:30 pm
You should see how he drives through the traffic. I am now becoming too visible to him and he knows my bike and helmet with a camera as I have a CX registration, so I guess I will no longer get middle fingers, but what I will do it track his driving for while behind him and see what he gets up to!
Can anyone check if this dudes number plate is registered to this car? WD have some seriaaaaas connections out there!
Let us know.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: PierreO on October 07, 2014, 01:40:04 pm
I suggest you keep a proper distance between yourself and this bloke . Sure sounds like the lift does not reach the top floor anymore .
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: jagter on October 07, 2014, 02:33:13 pm
I suggest you keep a proper distance between yourself and this bloke . Sure sounds like the lift does not reach the top floor anymore .

Yep.  This guy will soon be in court. Crying about how sorry he is that he killed someone. Either in a road rage incident, or accident.

Keep well clear.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: westfrogger on October 07, 2014, 03:27:20 pm
Send the video to his insurance company.

(The ST will be insured ... people like that live on credit)
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: plaky on October 07, 2014, 03:50:33 pm
Send the video to his insurance company.

(The ST will be insured ... people like that live on credit)

How does one find out who he is insured with? Not sure if that will really make a difference!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update!!!!
Post by: BennNevis on October 07, 2014, 08:07:36 pm
Dragonfly, I like the way you think! He will shit himself. I have no idea where he lives but travels on the N1 and I normally see him from the Plattekloof turnoff direction Cape Town from 7.25am onwards. His number plate only says Schumi WP. Maybe it is his boyfriends car that has the numbers!

He lives in KLEINBRON Park near Cape Gate
He used to drive a golf 6 GTI, drives like an absolute chop
He changed cars recently now drives focus ST
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: westfrogger on October 08, 2014, 06:57:03 am
Send the video to his insurance company.

(The ST will be insured ... people like that live on credit)

How does one find out who he is insured with? Not sure if that will really make a difference!

First you need a sturdy baseball bat ... :lol8:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Lommies on April 05, 2016, 04:50:10 pm
I saw mr Schumie WP this morning in Fairtrees on my commute, but I didnt stop to have a coffee chat with him. I'm sure he will rekindle our love hate relationship soon  :pot:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2016, 05:06:51 pm
You Capies are a strange lot. 19 months down the line and still just whinging.   :imaposer:
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Post by: darthvader on April 05, 2016, 07:15:20 pm
Thus guy assulted a car guard in Richwood a whule back. He also almost took me off my bike.

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Title: Re:
Post by: darthvader on April 05, 2016, 07:17:11 pm
Does anybody know his employer please?

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Title: Re:
Post by: 2wdrift on April 05, 2016, 08:01:04 pm
Find his house, get together all the Dogs in the area and park in front of his yard one morning.

Stay silent and just give him the blank stare. Then follow him into the road. If he approaches you just state that you all want to ask him nicely to stop endangering people on bikes.

Or remove your numberplate and ride to work with a bat....

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Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 05, 2016, 08:15:09 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Casting from Turd on April 05, 2016, 08:41:49 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Aren't you lot all family in that area?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Herklaas on April 05, 2016, 08:54:09 pm
You Capies are a strange lot. 19 months down the line and still just whinging.   :imaposer:

 :sip: Flippen hell, don't be unfair, nothing much happens here most of the time, we need some entertainment, even it it takes a bit long, have a heart, Buddy Bear.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2016, 09:00:38 pm
You Capies are a strange lot. 19 months down the line and still just whinging.   :imaposer:

 :sip: Flippen hell, don't be unfair, nothing much happens here most of the time, we need some entertainment, even it it takes a bit long, have a heart, Buddy Bear.

My most humble apologies.  For a moment there, the pace there slipped my mind.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 05, 2016, 09:13:55 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:
:imaposer:
Aren't you lot all family in that area?
Fortunately not me. Cant vouch for the rest. And i still got my own teeth :imaposer:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Herklaas on April 05, 2016, 09:22:22 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:
:imaposer:
Aren't you lot all family in that area?

Fortunately not me. Cant vouch for the rest. And i still got my own teeth :imaposer:


 :sip: Eich, always wondered what the top speed of an Amarok was, but, 120, joh!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 05, 2016, 09:26:40 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:
:imaposer:
Aren't you lot all family in that area?

Fortunately not me. Cant vouch for the rest. And i still got my own teeth :imaposer:


 :sip: Eich, always wondered what the top speed of an Amarok was, but, 120, joh!
Impressive hey :lol8:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: katana on April 06, 2016, 06:17:26 am
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Don't worry about it.  It happens on bikes too.  Some peoples pride just won't allow them to let other people pass them safely.

You doubled your speed to block him.  Think about that....
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 06, 2016, 08:29:01 pm
There is absolutely no need to come up behind somebody on a rough dirt road at that speed in the dark. It is dangerous and irresponsible.
If he approached at a reasobable speed and made intention known to pass, and did so safely , no problem.
What he did was unreasonable, i have had numerous windscreen chips from this type of twat on the elands road. My wife has been pushed off the road, and another resident ended in hospital with her vehicle written off. The ahole didnt bother to stop in either incident. He couldnt see the damage done in the dust behind him.
Just thought about it. Hes still the prick
Thanks for tip :thumleft:
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Post by: katana on April 07, 2016, 06:20:19 am
There is absolutely no need to come up behind somebody on a rough dirt road at that speed in the dark. It is dangerous and irresponsible.
If he approached at a reasobable speed and made intention known to pass, and did so safely , no problem.
What he did was unreasonable, i have had numerous windscreen chips from this type of twat on the elands road. My wife has been pushed off the road, and another resident ended in hospital with her vehicle written off. The ahole didnt bother to stop in either incident. He couldnt see the damage done in the dust behind him.
Just thought about it. Hes still the prick
Thanks for tip :thumleft:

Agreed to disagree then.  Someone else was the first prick...
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 07, 2016, 06:26:29 am
There is absolutely no need to come up behind somebody on a rough dirt road at that speed in the dark. It is dangerous and irresponsible.
If he approached at a reasobable speed and made intention known to pass, and did so safely , no problem.
What he did was unreasonable, i have had numerous windscreen chips from this type of twat on the elands road. My wife has been pushed off the road, and another resident ended in hospital with her vehicle written off. The ahole didnt bother to stop in either incident. He couldnt see the damage done in the dust behind him.
Just thought about it. Hes still the prick
Thanks for tip :thumleft:

I can see your point, but the guy approaching you from the back only saw a dice happening with you accelerating away like that. You should have put your hazards on, reduce speed and let him pass and be on his way.
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Post by: Warren Ellwood on April 07, 2016, 09:04:31 am
This morning I saw something which for me was a first.

Driving up Plattekloof Road towards Bellville sort of just past the Plattekloof Shopping center, in fair traffic, there was a fellow on a Chinese brand motorcycle in the left hand lane and he was travelling at about 70, which I think is actually the speed limit along there. He was in the center of the lane.

I was in the right lane and everybody in the this lane was slowly overtaking him, and a gap had formed in front of him to the next vehicle.

Suddenly the car behind swings out to the left and passes him half in the yellow lane, which then promoted the next 4 or 5 cars to do the same, some of them cutting back in front of him fairly unnecessarily close  ???. I was just past him by then but it looked like a fairly hairy experience for him.

And then, at the next robot, it turned red and we all had to stop, including all these rsoles who were so in a hurry to get somewhere, and this little bike passes everyone again and filters to the front. My priceless moment for the day.

:biggrin:

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Post by: TheBear on April 07, 2016, 10:40:40 am
There is absolutely no need to come up behind somebody on a rough dirt road at that speed in the dark. It is dangerous and irresponsible.
If he approached at a reasobable speed and made intention known to pass, and did so safely , no problem.
What he did was unreasonable, i have had numerous windscreen chips from this type of twat on the elands road. My wife has been pushed off the road, and another resident ended in hospital with her vehicle written off. The ahole didnt bother to stop in either incident. He couldnt see the damage done in the dust behind him.
Just thought about it. Hes still the prick
Thanks for tip :thumleft:

Agreed to disagree then.  Someone else was the first prick...

+1
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Post by: TheBear on April 07, 2016, 10:42:29 am
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

You are happy to do 60 - 80.  He is happy to do "snot speed".  You accelerate to "snot speed" to force him to stay behind you.  Why didn't you just slow down a tad and let him overtake and go?
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Post by: RobC on April 07, 2016, 10:44:13 am
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

You are happy to do 60 - 80.  He is happy to do "snot speed".  You accelerate to "snot speed" to force him to stay behind you.  Why didn't you just slow down a tad and let him overtake and go?
I am also like "why not let him pass".
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Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 07, 2016, 10:49:37 am
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Don't worry about it.  It happens on bikes too.  Some peoples pride just won't allow them to let other people pass them safely.

You doubled your speed to block him.  Think about that....

lol, I cant help but agree.. im on a dirt road, someone is going fucking 60 on it, Im doing 120, so naturally im catching them at 60km/h or a snot speed.. im busy thinking great, ill just overtake and he can carry on going slow, he will be out of my dust in no time at that speed.. no problem, but then the fucker puts his foot down forcing me to stay in his dust having him kick up fucking stones on my windscreen all because he doesn't want me to pass.. If someone comes up behind you at speed on a dirt road.. just pull a bit over and let him pass.

food for thought but if I was the oke behind you I would have flipped you the bird as you took that video.
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Post by: Bundu on April 07, 2016, 10:58:23 am
This morning I saw something which for me was a first.

Driving up Plattekloof Road towards Bellville sort of just past the Plattekloof Shopping center, in fair traffic, there was a fellow on a Chinese brand motorcycle in the right hand lane and he was travelling at about 70, which I think is actually the speed limit along there. He was in the center of the lane.

I was in the left lane and everybody in the this lane was slowly overtaking him, and a gap had formed in front of him to the next vehicle.

Suddenly the car behind swings out to the right and passes him half in the yellow lane, which then promoted the next 4 or 5 cars to do the same, some of them cutting back in front of him fairly unnecessarily close  ???. I was just past him by then but it looked like a fairly hairy experience for him.

And then, at the next robot, it turned red and we all had to stop, including all these rsoles who were so in a hurry to get somewhere, and this little bike passes everyone again and filters to the front. My priceless moment for the day.

:biggrin:



the rider was probably not very experienced either and terrified  :-[

I sometimes get the feeling that some cagers hate bikers, simply because we can move through traffic faster :xxbah:
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Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 07, 2016, 11:23:00 am
I see this on a daily basis turning from Koeberg into Plattekloof.. robot turns green for the my citi bus and some chop takes off ignoring the massive red light with a no right turn arrow.. its only a matter of time before these okes get taken out by a bus.
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Post by: TK on April 07, 2016, 11:51:51 am
Some time back I was forced into on coming traffic by a guy reversing out of a farm gate into a 120km national road. The prick did so while looking at me. Wife and toddler in the car. I thought I was fucking dead.
Got along side him and gave him a piece of my mind only to be nearly knocked off my bike a couple of times. Wife swearing at me, him shaking his fist at me threating to fuck me up.
Quick plan (I'm not going to let this jerk get away with this)...... catch him at the first robot get off my bike and give him a mouthful throu the window. Prick gets out the car, big fellow, gym shirt on with muscles flexing...... he's going to give me a hiding and probably would have. And my gym shirts are long gone.
I did something  then that I am not proud of, but the situation warranted the action. And with that it was explained to him with intension that if he is prepared to put my life at risk by his selfish and unthoughtfull (not sure if that is a word but you get my meaning) actions then be prepared to bump heads with me. His words were..........'Sorry....didn't see you'. I can guarantee you that there will be another thought process before he turns his wheels into you.
........If somebody is quite prepared to harm somebody and God forbid cause someone's death and it was known that this may happen and you did nothing...........man, are you going to live with yourself. Approach this prick in whatever manner you see fit but make him understand that he may/is putting peoples lives at risk. It doesn't matter as long as you got that message to him.....let him do the maths.
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Post by: Kamanya on April 07, 2016, 12:53:43 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Get a 950/990. Problem solved.

Nobody stays close behind a 990 if you don't want them there. They dig trenches and throw half bricks with a simple twist of the wrist.
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Post by: cocky on April 07, 2016, 02:19:00 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Get a 950/990. Problem solved.

Nobody stays close behind a 990 if you don't want them there. They dig trenches and throw half bricks with a simple twist of the wrist.
Agreed 100%  :thumleft:
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Post by: RobC on April 07, 2016, 03:27:43 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Get a 950/990. Problem solved.

Nobody stays close behind a 990 if you don't want them there. They dig trenches and throw half bricks with a simple twist of the wrist.
Agreed 100%  :thumleft:
even a KLR with knobbies should be feared... :sip:
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Post by: Black_Hawk on April 07, 2016, 03:43:08 pm
A very interesting thread... or should I say season 2 of a soapie.  :imaposer:.

It will be interesting to see if this "Schumie1" changed his driving habits in the last 19 months after all this social media exposure.
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Post by: elandsrider on April 07, 2016, 07:53:49 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Get a 950/990. Problem solved.

Nobody stays close behind a 990 if you don't want them there. They dig trenches and throw half bricks with a simple twist of the wrist.
Agreed 100%  :thumleft:
even a KLR with knobbies should be feared... :sip:
It is a bit risky speeding up as he can easily veer into me going past but that can happen at the speed he was doing anyway, i would just prefer he didnt throw up the rocks,
No need to do what he did, 800 m later the dirt turned to tar and he can pass without chucking rocks
Next time i speed up, and hug the middle to right of road and get his number plate clearly when he passes on tar
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: jaybiker on April 08, 2016, 08:32:21 am
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
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Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2016, 08:50:45 am
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

Get a 950/990. Problem solved.

Nobody stays close behind a 990 if you don't want them there. They dig trenches and throw half bricks with a simple twist of the wrist.
Agreed 100%  :thumleft:
even a KLR with knobbies should be feared... :sip:
It is a bit risky speeding up as he can easily veer into me going past but that can happen at the speed he was doing anyway, i would just prefer he didnt throw up the rocks,
No need to do what he did, 800 m later the dirt turned to tar and he can pass without chucking rocks
Next time i speed up, and hug the middle to right of road and get his number plate clearly when he passes on tar

Or!

Do an Advanced Driving Course, with a definite Defensive Driving Module.
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Post by: JohnB on April 08, 2016, 08:54:51 am
 :o

Hier moet mens liefs swyg...
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 08, 2016, 06:52:54 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:
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Post by: J-dog on April 14, 2016, 03:55:39 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?
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Post by: Ortos on April 14, 2016, 04:38:38 pm
On my way to work this morning, i travel normally 60-80km/h on the dirt in my arok. This twatwaffle in another type of bakkie, pulled up behind me at a snot speed. I got faster to keep the twatwaffle behind so he doesnt chuck rocks on my arok. At a point i was doing about 120 just before the tar, he went past me chucking up rocks. I got a brief video but not his number plate. He is not the only twatwaffle in a bakkie on the elandsriver road. Another one with a dive sticker on the back and ......getaway on the side does similar shit. Repeatedly.
If you ride the elandsriver road, look out, some interbred hillbillies in bakkies here. And im shamed to say i live here sometimes :patch:

You are happy to do 60 - 80.  He is happy to do "snot speed".  You accelerate to "snot speed" to force him to stay behind you.  Why didn't you just slow down a tad and let him overtake and go?
I am also like "why not let him pass".

+1 He needs to get "There" before everyone else, wherever the faark "There" is..........
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Post by: Casting from Turd on April 14, 2016, 04:55:06 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?

Now thats a name blast from the past
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: J-dog on April 15, 2016, 09:44:26 am
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?

Now thats a name blast from the past

yep my best mate. He has a great possie down on the river in Elands.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 15, 2016, 12:02:37 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.

That is a very nice, politically correct way of saying move the fuck over if the oke behind you is approaching quickly.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on April 15, 2016, 12:05:49 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

I have been on some farm roads.. dust roads, back roads where they have actually put up 'speed bumps' which is actually, more specifically soil erosion measures. Maybe instead of coming from a point of view to reduce speed by death of speed bumps you can use the soil erosion argument.. nothing like that to send a ford airborne for speeding.
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Post by: Bus on April 15, 2016, 12:13:10 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
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Post by: cocky on April 15, 2016, 12:27:39 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
Tjune hulle Bussie
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Post by: Gensetter on April 15, 2016, 01:16:56 pm
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Lommies on April 15, 2016, 01:18:11 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
Tjune hulle Bussie

passop daai donkie kom nou vir julle uitk@k
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: cocky on April 15, 2016, 02:13:53 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
Tjune hulle Bussie

passop daai donkie kom nou vir julle uitk@k
Jy reken daai storie, donkie kan maar kom!
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Bus on April 15, 2016, 02:16:22 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
Tjune hulle Bussie

passop daai donkie kom nou vir julle uitk@k
Jy reken daai storie, donkie kan maar kom!

Watse kak gesels julle?
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: cocky on April 15, 2016, 02:19:53 pm
Jirre julle is deur die kak.

This thread is about a d0os in a Focus ST in the Western Cape

Go start your own thread about Eastern Cape cŪnts
Tjune hulle Bussie

passop daai donkie kom nou vir julle uitk@k
Jy reken daai storie, donkie kan maar kom!

Watse kak gesels julle?
Kykhie ............... jy weet waar jy bly ne
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Jy bly STIL
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 15, 2016, 07:08:46 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?
:thumleft:yes
Is that a good thing or bad :peepwall:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 15, 2016, 07:11:15 pm
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?
No thanks, dont like talking to arseholes :lol8:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 15, 2016, 07:13:55 pm
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?

Now thats a name blast from the past

yep my best mate. He has a great possie down on the river in Elands.
Just down the river, we burn meat sometimes.  :thumleft:
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Post by: Geel Kat on April 15, 2016, 08:12:07 pm
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?

I doubt...

 :imaposer: WD's worst nightmare, coming face to face with someone he called an asshole  :imaposer:
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Post by: elandsrider on April 15, 2016, 08:24:50 pm
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?

I doubt...

 :imaposer: WD's worst nightmare, coming face to face with someone he called an asshole  :imaposer:
No stress, currently 3 (that i know of) wannabee dirt racers. Somebody is going to get seriously hurt soon on this road. 2 fords and a silver i think toyota with a canvass cover over his rails. Unfortunately havent got a number yet as if they come from the front you are taking evasive action as they appear in front of you on the wrong side of the road sliding thru the corner. From behind you are trying to dodge the rocks and see thru the dust. Arseholes, wild dogs or not. If they harm my family due to irresponsible behaviour it might be a nightmare coming face to face me
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Post by: Geel Kat on April 15, 2016, 08:26:38 pm
Arseholes, wild dogs or not. If they harm my family due to irresponsible behaviour it might be a nightmare coming face to face me

On this point I fully agree  :thumleft:
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 16, 2016, 08:04:18 am
Elandsrider's experience with that driver on a dirtroad is also happening on the D/S front.

I have been passed on dirtroads by people on bikes, obviously having not the faintest clue[or care] about what happens if you pass a slower rider and the moment you pass, you open the throttle on your 100+hp superdigger.

It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.
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Post by: J-dog on April 16, 2016, 09:37:26 am
Elandsrider, although I wasn't there I think some of the guys are giving you an unduly hard time. You said that you were prepared to move over and be passed at an appropriate point, And you clearly know that road better than most.
I think that on a dirt road there is a reasonable way to pass and to be passed, with both parties giving each other due consideration.
Thats ok, i dont mind critisicm , can learn from it ithink,
Some of the okes on this road drive like real aholes, from behind its not so bad, from the front its worse because they drift across at high speed , at night you can see them coming, in the day its not so easy, had some hairy experiences and my wife had to put a combi into a soft bush to avoid a ford at high speed coming from the front. I have broached th subject at a farmers ass meeting to no avail as well. Bunch of soft cock ballies :spitcoffee: :lol8:

Are you mates with Sebastian Dech?
:thumleft:yes
Is that a good thing or bad :peepwall:

very good  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Gensetter on April 16, 2016, 09:49:48 am
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?

I doubt...

 :imaposer: WD's worst nightmare, coming face to face with someone he called an asshole  :imaposer:

He is actually a very nice person. Sometimes we do not realise that we piss other people of, or what we are doing causes harm.
All you need to do is tell them.
Bitching on a forum, where the person will not even find out that he is being a chop will get no results.
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Post by: Eisbein on April 16, 2016, 12:08:48 pm
It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.

Hold the press - I agree wholeheartedly with something that Oom Danie said.
 :biggrin:

My own experience tips the scale towards the 'Just couldn't give a shit' side of the scale.

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Post by: TheBear on April 16, 2016, 12:31:46 pm
Elandsrider's experience with that driver on a dirtroad is also happening on the D/S front.

I have been passed on dirtroads by people on bikes, obviously having not the faintest clue[or care] about what happens if you pass a slower rider and the moment you pass, you open the throttle on your 100+hp superdigger.

It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.

Are you saying if I trundle along on my block of flats at 70 or so km/h and you catch up from behind, you will calmly stay behind me till the next time we stop?

Are you saying when I become aware you want to pass me and I speed up dramatically, you will happily sit behind me in my dust?

Somehow, I don't think so.  No siree, Bob!
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Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 16, 2016, 12:40:38 pm
Elandsrider's experience with that driver on a dirtroad is also happening on the D/S front.

I have been passed on dirtroads by people on bikes, obviously having not the faintest clue[or care] about what happens if you pass a slower rider and the moment you pass, you open the throttle on your 100+hp superdigger.

It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.

Are you saying if I trundle along on my block of flats at 70 or so km/h and you catch up from behind, you will calmly stay behind me till the next time we stop?

Are you saying when I become aware you want to pass me and I speed up dramatically, you will happily sit behind me in my dust?

Somehow, I don't think so.  No siree, Bob!

No, I will CALMLY overtake, keeping a wide birth, and gently accelerate until you are too far behind to be reached by my roost.
OK, I know the XT600E did not come out with roost function, neither can it be optionally fitted. :thumleft:

If you speed up, well decision time.....it either becomes a race on a public road, or I fall back.
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Post by: Eisbein on April 16, 2016, 05:33:21 pm
Elandsrider's experience with that driver on a dirtroad is also happening on the D/S front.

I have been passed on dirtroads by people on bikes, obviously having not the faintest clue[or care] about what happens if you pass a slower rider and the moment you pass, you open the throttle on your 100+hp superdigger.

It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.

Are you saying if I trundle along on my block of flats at 70 or so km/h and you catch up from behind, you will calmly stay behind me till the next time we stop?

Are you saying when I become aware you want to pass me and I speed up dramatically, you will happily sit behind me in my dust?

Somehow, I don't think so.  No siree, Bob!

No, I will CALMLY overtake, keeping a wide birth, and gently accelerate until you are too far behind to be reached by my roost.
OK, I know the XT600E did not come out with roost function, neither can it be optionally fitted. :thumleft:

If you speed up, well decision time.....it either becomes a race on a public road, or I fall back.

People who have ridden with me know this is the way I ride as well.

In fact - this is how I overtake any vehicle on gravel - if there isn't long enough distance ahead to overtake widely (without accelerating like a bat out of hell) and stay on the other side of the road 'till I think it is safe to return to the left without roosting the guy I would rather fall behind and wait 'till there is space to do so.

Having said that - if I see someone coming faster from behind I go as far left as possible and go way slower - not necessarily because I am nice, but because I know that 9 out of 10 people just couldn't give a shit if they roost the guy they are passing...

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Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 16, 2016, 05:39:35 pm
Exactly Mr. Stemmet!! :thumleft:

And one would think these roadmanners would be common logic....but it is too often non-existent.
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Post by: TheBear on April 16, 2016, 06:36:16 pm
Elandsrider's experience with that driver on a dirtroad is also happening on the D/S front.

I have been passed on dirtroads by people on bikes, obviously having not the faintest clue[or care] about what happens if you pass a slower rider and the moment you pass, you open the throttle on your 100+hp superdigger.

It is either complete ignorance, or a spoilt-brat attitude of f..k you.

Are you saying if I trundle along on my block of flats at 70 or so km/h and you catch up from behind, you will calmly stay behind me till the next time we stop?

Are you saying when I become aware you want to pass me and I speed up dramatically, you will happily sit behind me in my dust?

Somehow, I don't think so.  No siree, Bob!

No, I will CALMLY overtake, keeping a wide birth, and gently accelerate until you are too far behind to be reached by my roost.
OK, I know the XT600E did not come out with roost function, neither can it be optionally fitted. :thumleft:

If you speed up, well decision time.....it either becomes a race on a public road, or I fall back.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: TheBear on April 16, 2016, 06:38:21 pm

People who have ridden with me know this is the way I ride as well.

In fact - this is how I overtake any vehicle on gravel - if there isn't long enough distance ahead to overtake widely (without accelerating like a bat out of hell) and stay on the other side of the road 'till I think it is safe to return to the left without roosting the guy I would rather fall behind and wait 'till there is space to do so.

Having said that - if I see someone coming faster from behind I go as far left as possible and go way slower - not necessarily because I am nice, but because I know that 9 out of 10 people just couldn't give a shit if they roost the guy they are passing...


Indeed, the way it should happen.   This is exactly how a defensive driver would react.  Do what is safe for you.
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: elandsrider on April 16, 2016, 07:19:15 pm
I know this fellow that elandsrider has mentioned. He is a member of our ski boat club.
Want his phone number ?

I doubt...

 :imaposer: WD's worst nightmare, coming face to face with someone he called an asshole  :imaposer:

He is actually a very nice person. Sometimes we do not realise that we piss other people of, or what we are doing causes harm.
All you need to do is tell them.
Bitching on a forum, where the person will not even find out that he is being a chop will get no results.
There are 3 of them that i have witnessed and at least 2 of them have forced my wife into the bush on her left side of the road, this coming from the front at extremely unreasonable speed causing them to drift to the right on a blind corner. Severe scratches were caused in one incident to the left side of the car she was driving. Luckily no injuries. In both cases no body bothered to stop to see if harm was caused. They coulndt see in the dust left behind them.
Im sure this is not your friend, there are others on his road that do this stuff.
If you ride on a bike, look out between freddies and sand river. They in there somewhere. And if they come round the corner like i have seen them and you on a little old scoot, you going down. Wont catch you from behind cos you wont be riding like a twatwaffle like me or my wife at the speed limit in a cage,
Last post  on this subject, fukem, rant off
Be carefull out there :lol8: :sip:
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Post by: Grrrr.... on February 08, 2017, 09:03:16 am
Looky who I saw this morning.....

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Cars/20170208_080758_zpsttpnq1kk.jpg) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Cars/20170208_080758_zpsttpnq1kk.jpg.html)
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Post by: Copernicus on February 08, 2017, 09:17:16 am
At least the weather looks fine today.
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Post by: silvrav on February 08, 2017, 09:26:12 am
Looky who I saw this morning.....

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/Ged1Grrrr/Cars/20170208_080758_zpsttpnq1kk.jpg) (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/Ged1Grrrr/media/Cars/20170208_080758_zpsttpnq1kk.jpg.html)

Did you cut him off  :peepwall:
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Post by: Grrrr.... on February 08, 2017, 09:48:30 am
At least the weather looks fine today.

The weather has been fine for months. That is the problem....

Looky who I saw this morning.....

Did you cut him off  :peepwall:

Ek bestuur soos 'n mens.
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Post by: silvrav on February 08, 2017, 09:54:56 am
At least the weather looks fine today.

The weather has been fine for months. That is the problem....

Looky who I saw this morning.....

Did you cut him off  :peepwall:

Ek bestuur soos 'n mens.
Jammer om van jou kak te hoor...  :pot:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Buddy on February 08, 2017, 10:05:53 am
Looks like he's zeroing in on that bike in front  :patch:
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Post by: Fudge on February 08, 2017, 10:16:14 am
Always reminds me of this:  :lol8:

(http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/off-topic-talk/1175089d1484334132-1949-mgtc-nigel-shiftright-dawn-patrol.jpg)
(http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachments/off-topic-talk/1175097d1484334150-1949-mgtc-nigel-shiftright-dawn-patrol2.jpg)
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Post by: TheBear on February 08, 2017, 10:34:29 am
Always reminds me of this:  :lol8:



 :imaposer: :laughing4:


Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 08, 2017, 11:59:17 am
Looks like he's zeroing in on that bike in front  :patch:

Speaking about bikes.......

The amount of arseholes on two wheels on the N1 this morning was mind boggling. There was one major jackass on a maroon Goldwing who was especially stupid. Not only does he ride one of the lamest bikes you can get this twatwaffle will obviously complain about all the "cagers" when he eventually runs into somebody with his car on two wheels.

I forsee a ugly coloured Goldwing lying on the side of the road one of these days and he will get no sympathy from me.
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Post by: Buddy on February 08, 2017, 12:08:37 pm
Is that the one with all the panniers and top box that makes it as wide as a truck? Seen that fellow trying to lane split in Okavango Rd and he fails dismally because the width of his bike causes him to get stuck and then he blocks everyone else. Commuting on a full dresser Goldwing is not a good idea.
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Post by: Operator on February 08, 2017, 12:19:18 pm
Ek bestuur soos 'n mens.

Jy is besig om sag te raak......    :pot:
Title: Re: Agressive cage drivers - Update... Update Shumi !!!!
Post by: Grrrr.... on February 08, 2017, 12:23:17 pm
Is that the one with all the panniers and top box that makes it as wide as a truck? Seen that fellow trying to lane split in Okavango Rd and he fails dismally because the width of his bike causes him to get stuck and then he blocks everyone else. Commuting on a full dresser Goldwing is not a good idea.

That be him..... oke clearly tries to keep up with the Superbikes and he nearly lost it this morning because he was "laneplitting" way to fast.

But other bikes too, I lanesplit too but fuck me some of these guys barrel through the cars at insane speeds.

Saw a few WD's, one on a 660Z, 'n 800 and a 1200 LC but they all behaved themselves.