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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC4 400/610/640 & 690 => Topic started by: Gravel Cat on October 01, 2014, 09:48:40 pm

Title: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Gravel Cat on October 01, 2014, 09:48:40 pm
Please shed some light...Huge KTM fan, always had a 200EXC and now a GS800, really miss the enduro stuff though.

How many K's do you guys get a tank?

Positives and negatives of the bike?

Comfortable at speed?

Looking at a 2012ish model

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Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: HAASDASenek on October 02, 2014, 08:46:57 pm
With just the standard tank the most I got before the fuel light came on was 240 km all dirt road lots op playing around around about 20 km per liter


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Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Damianv on October 03, 2014, 08:45:06 am
I recently bought a Katoom 690 from a fellow dog. I am really loving the bike, massive power, nimble, and a pure joy to ride. I really like the amount of aftermarket extras that are available for the bike, just hate not always having the money to buy them  ::)

I have experienced a few hiccups with the bike, but from my research I have found that the 690's are very finicky when you start putting aftermarket pipes and filter on it. Mine likes to stall out at low revs from time to time. There are options to solve this, aftermarket ECU maps, accelerator module etc.
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Jacobsroodt on October 03, 2014, 09:06:13 am
Some riders have reported engine dependability issues. A member on this forum had the engine rebuilt twice in 15000km. In defense the bike was ridden hard. So as long as you have an ATM as well...
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Richard Smit on October 03, 2014, 10:53:28 am
I ride a 690 with an Omega kit on, and love the bike. Must say however that it isn't a full blown racing bike (like a 450/500 XCF-W), and if is ridden at 450/500 enduro pace, it is likely to require a repair or two from time to time.

I think its 10 000 km service intervals are too optimistic, and am inclined to do minor servicing after every ride (check oil/water, clean air-filter, inspect brakes/fluids, and clean/grease chain), and will do more thorough servicing every 3000 km's. That way, I know the bike is healthy, and I have the confidence to ride it hard, and use it for more technical riding.

What it is, is a very hardcore adventure tourer, that can go places and do things that very few other bikes can do. I'd prefer to compare it to the DR, or XR bikes of the world, and in this respect it is a lot more refined than those bikes.

I see this one for sale... The price looks right, and if its going well, I think it will be a good buy. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=160174.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=160174.0)


Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Gawel on October 03, 2014, 04:01:44 pm
From my side I find the faster (130k plus) stuff a bit unnerving with the bikes tendency to gently shake its head . But in the rougher stuff its all smiles  :laughing4: :laughing4:






Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Dwerg on October 03, 2014, 04:04:55 pm
Some riders have reported engine dependability issues. A member on this forum had the engine rebuilt twice in 15000km. In defense the bike was ridden hard. So as long as you have an ATM as well...

Name any bike and someone will have a similar story. The LC4s are generally very reliable when looked after. Yes they require a bit of attention but what do you expect from a single that will out accellerate a 800gs  :pot:
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Brandt on October 03, 2014, 06:10:50 pm
Some riders have reported engine dependability issues. A member on this forum had the engine rebuilt twice in 15000km. In defense the bike was ridden hard. So as long as you have an ATM as well...

Name any bike and someone will have a similar story. The LC4s are generally very reliable when looked after. Yes they require a bit of attention but what do you expect from a single that will out accellerate a 800gs  :pot:
Hehe, die 690 het jou sommer n groot orange fan gemaak :lol8: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Dwerg on October 03, 2014, 08:36:24 pm
Some riders have reported engine dependability issues. A member on this forum had the engine rebuilt twice in 15000km. In defense the bike was ridden hard. So as long as you have an ATM as well...

Name any bike and someone will have a similar story. The LC4s are generally very reliable when looked after. Yes they require a bit of attention but what do you expect from a single that will out accellerate a 800gs  :pot:
Hehe, die 690 het jou sommer n groot orange fan gemaak :lol8: :thumleft:

Actually was dit my ex 640 gewees en die 950adv het ook gehelp  ;)
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Gravel Cat on October 08, 2014, 11:02:11 am
Thank you to all for the feedback...

Any ideas what a long range tank would cost, something like this guy has on his:

Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: HAASDASenek on October 11, 2014, 11:18:43 am
That tanks are the Rally Raid evo 1 tanks you can look at theire web page for pricing quide just remember to add about a third of the price for delivery in SA


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Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Gravel Cat on October 13, 2014, 12:59:19 pm
That tanks are the Rally Raid evo 1 tanks you can look at theire web page for pricing quide just remember to add about a third of the price for delivery in SA


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Thanks man - i have checked them out, basically around 20k excluding delivery...yoh yoh yoh
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: KVR on January 30, 2015, 09:36:02 am
I ride a 690 with an Omega kit on, and love the bike. Must say however that it isn't a full blown racing bike (like a 450/500 XCF-W), and if is ridden at 450/500 enduro pace, it is likely to require a repair or two from time to time.

I think its 10 000 km service intervals are too optimistic, and am inclined to do minor servicing after every ride (check oil/water, clean air-filter, inspect brakes/fluids, and clean/grease chain), and will do more thorough servicing every 3000 km's. That way, I know the bike is healthy, and I have the confidence to ride it hard, and use it for more technical riding.

What it is, is a very hardcore adventure tourer, that can go places and do things that very few other bikes can do. I'd prefer to compare it to the DR, or XR bikes of the world, and in this respect it is a lot more refined than those bikes.

I see this one for sale... The price looks right, and if its going well, I think it will be a good buy. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=160174.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=160174.0)

Hi, this bike you are pointing out is mine up for sale, in all honesty it is the best decision Iv made. It was also a match up against a GS 800 and when this one sells in time I will buy another one.

This bike has given me no problems and has started first time since the day I bought it. The only thing I can say is that is became a bit difficult at low revs in the technical sections, this is mainly due to the high amount of power the bike has and to ride it like a proper enduro bike you find yourself in low revs and you find yourself stalling a bit. What I did was put a 14 tooth front sprocket on when I know that I am going on a ride with some moderately tight stuff, it shortens the gear ratio giving you more room to play and also turn the mapping to intermediate or low HP setting, this give you a great riding speed in mid 2nd gear and will not back down to any hill. I am confident to take this bike almost anywhere my mates on there 450's go. I do ride to save the bike and not to drop it at all, so wont keep up with their pace in a race but will never get left behind. In case of a longer trip, i put a 16 tooth in front and it gives me a whole new gear on the top end and still has enough power to keep you satisfied. (I can only imagine what the EVO 2 performance kit with the cam and air filter will do).

The reason I bout this bike was so that I can do the enduro trails with mates on the weekend and also do Rallye Raid events when they come up, I also want the option to jump no an get to Baviaans from PE for the weekend and ride with the dogs when they put a ride up. The 690, especially with the rallye kit (better light and added fuel) is the do it all bike on the market. If this is what you would be looking to do, covering all angles with one bike, it will also be the best bike you have ever bought.



Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: KVR on January 30, 2015, 09:39:23 am
Hi, this bike you are pointing out is mine up for sale, in all honesty it is the best decision Iv made. It was also a match up against a GS 800 and when this one sells in time I will buy another one.

This bike has given me no problems and has started first time since the day I bought it. The only thing I can say is that is became a bit difficult at low revs in the technical sections, this is mainly due to the high amount of power the bike has and to ride it like a proper enduro bike you find yourself in low revs and you find yourself stalling a bit. What I did was put a 14 tooth front sprocket on when I know that I am going on a ride with some moderately tight stuff, it shortens the gear ratio giving you more room to play and also turn the mapping to intermediate or low HP setting, this give you a great riding speed in mid 2nd gear and will not back down to any hill. I am confident to take this bike almost anywhere my mates on there 450's go. I do ride to save the bike and not to drop it at all, so wont keep up with their pace in a race but will never get left behind. In case of a longer trip, i put a 16 tooth in front and it gives me a whole new gear on the top end and still has enough power to keep you satisfied. (I can only imagine what the EVO 2 performance kit with the cam and air filter will do).

The reason I bout this bike was so that I can do the enduro trails with mates on the weekend and also do Rallye Raid events when they come up, I also want the option to jump no an get to Baviaans from PE for the weekend and ride with the dogs when they put a ride up. The 690, especially with the rallye kit (better light and added fuel) is the do it all bike on the market. If this is what you would be looking to do, covering all angles with one bike, it will also be the best bike you have ever bought.
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Krod on February 20, 2015, 10:39:29 am
I am also in this predicament now, wondering about this 690 idea...
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: KVR on February 20, 2015, 06:47:45 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=168049.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=168049.0)

here is one...
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: 777 on February 20, 2015, 08:27:27 pm
Look at the Safari tank,DBn suppliers ,less than half the price of RR tank.

Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Krod on March 23, 2015, 07:04:21 pm
Got my 690, Safari tanks, R 9880
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: LDV on March 23, 2015, 07:21:53 pm
Got my 690, Safari tanks, R 9880

When did you buy?
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Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: trevorwb on March 23, 2015, 07:37:20 pm
My 690 came with a full rally kit which I didn't enjoy .I ditched it after one ride and put it back to its original form.I don't tour on my 690 so I don't require the extra fuel.I try to ride as much single track as possible so the rally fairing only got in the way.I have taken a fuel bladder with on the odd occasion when uncertain about fuel stops and the extra 5l gives me another 100 km aprox.Mine uses a tad more fuel as I went 1 down on the front and one up on the rear.
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: trevorwb on March 23, 2015, 07:46:34 pm
Strangely enough my 690 is really planted at speed.Gravel roads at 148 on the gps but I should imagine tyre selection and suspension set up have a lot to do with this.I have a dampner in the front.
This bike allows you to be able to explore off the beaten track without being a burden.The gravel travel between can be quite exhilarating as well.But it is definetly not the type of bike you would hop onto and cruise 100 km up the tar for a quick beer.
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Dwerg on March 23, 2015, 08:01:28 pm
I'm lovin my 690 more by the day. It's not perfect but it is as good a DS bike as I've ridden. Suspension is not as good as the older LC4s but the motor is great. This bit is rocks from golf ball to fist size and it did 155 on the gps where grip started losing. Tyre was a bit worn so might have gone up to just over 160

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-QwihZC1QS4
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Richard Smit on March 23, 2015, 08:48:52 pm
Mooi man Dwerg!!! Most okes are too poep scared to ride that speed on open tar!!!
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Krod on March 23, 2015, 10:09:47 pm
When did you buy?
Take a pic
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Clarify, bought the bike, got a quote on the tank, 10k very steep imo
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: aka.Goliath on March 24, 2015, 12:05:57 am
I'm looking at using the rally replica tanks apparently they go for around R6000 each side. I'm not keen on using fiber tanks when you know you are going to come down at some stage, I just don't think they are as robust at moulded plastic.
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: Dwerg on May 07, 2015, 02:18:00 pm
My 690 is probably standing on somewhere around 12 000kms now. Took it down to the coast and back last week. The rally kit really helps a lot for long distance. I actually think it has much better wind protection than any other bike I've had. My arse started really hurting around the 400-500km. Fuel consumption was between 16-20km/l. 16 while going flat taps on the dirt, 20 while cruizing at 120-130. I fitted a set of T63s before the trip and it was the first time I could play with the bike on tar twisties and it was loads of fun. It goes like a demon at sea level!!

All the issues I've had so far were with the aftermarket kit. POS considering the amount of money you pay for it.....
Title: Re: Honestly - Do i get a 690 or
Post by: LDV on May 07, 2015, 02:40:50 pm
http://www.radegarage.com/2014-07-07/ktm-690-auxilliary-tank/

Another idea on aux tank. 5.5l 299 euro thats about 5k


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