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Title: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2015, 09:25:28 am
So who's doing GOC (or is it GNHC) this year? I'm still shopping for a bike but if all else fails I'll just do it on the 230.

Does anyone have some info on how to go about joining a club and getting a licence?


DATES:
GOC Harescramble Senior Series
Date   Venue   Status
14 February   Bronkhorstspruit    GOC Club
14 March   Radium   GOC Club
11 April   Carltonville   GOC Club
23 May   Rysmierbult   GOC Club
15 August   Warm Baths   GOC Club
19 September   Balmoral   GOC Club
24 October   Parys   GOC Club
14 November   Bronkhorstspruit   GOC Club
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2015, 10:02:20 am
Just found this bit on E-dirt

MSA / WOMZA / NONE LICENSE HOLDERS
ē You donít need any license to come and enjoy GOC racing for 2015. Everyone is welcome.
ē GOC Membership still entitles you to discount at selected sponsors eg. Factory Racing, EMD, Portable Shade, Sign Wonder, Inxon.
ē The only requirement will be proof of your medical aid.
ē There will be no discrimination against any affiliation.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on January 05, 2015, 10:16:24 am
Die GOC's was bietjie vinnig vir my laas jaar, wonder watter effek die nuwe formaat gaan he? Teen daardie spoed gaan mens een of ander tyd jou moer suur val. Glo nie dit gaan baie meer tegnies wees as laas jaar nie.

Ek het elkgeval nie 'n bike daarvoor op die oomblik nie, net 'n shitty KDX op die oomblik. Gaan wel 'n enduro of twee try.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2015, 10:19:24 am
Give some more info on the enduro's if you can please?

Speed won't be an issue if I am doing on the 230  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on January 05, 2015, 10:32:41 am
I'm not too sure myself, I did all the homework on the GOC's last year and now I have to start from scratch. Best place to ask is probably Moto101.

The EWXC (Enduro World Cross Country) series is very popular in Gauteng. I think you need a WOMZA license for that (please correct me if I'm wrong). Much more technical than the GOC's, and much harder as well.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: IDR on January 05, 2015, 10:37:41 am
As practice for Amageza, don't you think a faster and LESS technical enduro would be better training?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on January 05, 2015, 10:41:05 am
As practice for Amageza, don't you think a faster and LESS technical enduro would be better training?

For Amageza prep, the GOC's are perfect. Nothing makes you a better rider than race pace. I think my km's clocked in the GOC's and Amageza SS's last year did more for my pace and skill than any training rides.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on January 05, 2015, 10:43:05 am
I've said it elsewhere as well, but if you have no racing experience, doing a few smaller races before your first Amageza is fantastic prep not just for riding, but also the mentality you need to have. Does wonders for the nerves as well.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: IDR on January 05, 2015, 10:50:18 am
That's the plan here :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2015, 12:03:46 pm
Did a bit of reading and I'm confused about the license part. Some posts say it won't be needed, others say it will  ???
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 05, 2015, 12:42:10 pm
It is confusing because of the split in GOC, late last year and now there may be 2 series - the harescrambles and the nationals - I understood things at first but they're starting to confuse me as well. Seems to me they are still sorting out their internal strife. I will be calling them to see what the real story is but seeing as I'm on crutches again I'm in no hurry. I won't be riding until March anyway.

I have joined the GOC club in the mean time, as I will need that to get an MSA club license for off-roads, enduros and Amageza. Whether I'll actually use it remains to be seen. 

Here's a copy of the last e-mail GOC sent me in December, with contact details .........................


GOC 2015 SA HARESCRAMBLES

 

MSA

 

The GOC SA Harescrambles will be affiliated with MSA for the year 2015.

The minimum requirement to race the GOC next year is a Club License.

 

Side-by-Side Class

 

We will also have a Side-by-Side class.

The Side-by-Side class will race on a Sunday after the junior race is done. They will do the same route the seniors did on the Saturday.

The Side-by-Side class will have eight races for 2015.

 

Entry Fee

 

Entry fee for the 2015 GOC will be:

Seniors: R600

Juniors: R 450

Side-by-Side: R650

 

2015 Race Dates

 

The 2015 Race Dates are available you can download them on www.gocracing.com (http://www.gocracing.com)

 

 

Regards

Marilize

Gauteng Offroad Club (GOC)

Tel no: 012 333 1852

Fax: 086 560 7761

Email: gocracing1@gmail.com

Website: www.gocracing.com (http://www.gocracing.com)

 
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: BjornB on January 05, 2015, 07:48:59 pm
I'm Keen on doing a few of these this year too!
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 05, 2015, 08:03:52 pm
Shot Cracker. I'll pop them a mail
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 06, 2015, 03:10:40 pm
The decision to affiliate with MSA has cut the field down by half I reckon, it would have been great for riders to just rock up and race!
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 09, 2015, 12:41:42 pm
I also plan to do a few GOC races this year. I fail to see what the issue is regarding MSA licenses? From my uninformed view that is the way to go.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 09, 2015, 12:43:40 pm
I also don't have an issue with the licenses, I just want clarity. What will you be riding on?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 09, 2015, 02:52:38 pm
The issue is it takes a lot of riders out of the race who don't want to get licences,, Farm Jam type riders
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 09, 2015, 05:57:22 pm
I also don't have an issue with the licenses, I just want clarity. What will you be riding on?
I am looking for a WR450 but I might have to do the first few on a KTM 300 EXC.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 10, 2015, 11:21:58 am
The issue is it takes a lot of riders out of the race who don't want to get licences,, Farm Jam type riders

Last year I did the first farm jam in Middleburg - there were hundreds of riders, way more than a GOC - even my class of the oldest men had dozens of competitors.

What I didn't like was the bottlenecks we hit due to the harescramble starts and when you catch the group in front, but they were only there on lap 1 and it gave you a chance to rest and get your red mist sorted. More riders may suit the organisers but there's no advantage to the competitiors on the day - there's plenty people at a GOC to race with, whether they're old, young, male or female.

My next race was the national/club seeding event followed by the first GOC - both in Middleburg - which put me off ever going back to the farm jams just coz I'd had enough of the area.

Maybe this year I'll try one or two - to be honest, I'm gonna ride where my riding buddies ride and the license thing is a non-issue, it costs bugger all for a club license anyway.

The 300 is great for the GOCs, lighter is still better. Yes, they are 'fast' races but there's plenty tech to keep you on your toes - they are only called mielie-field races by those who like paddling over rocks ..................... 
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 10, 2015, 02:45:34 pm
Cracker, we have attended every GOC since the begining of time except for 2014
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 12, 2015, 09:16:46 am
Cracker, we have attended every GOC since the begining of time except for 2014

Congratulations. Now can we get back to the original question?  :pot:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 12, 2015, 10:25:18 am
I also don't have an issue with the licenses, I just want clarity. What will you be riding on?
I am looking for a WR450 but I might have to do the first few on a KTM 300 EXC.

Wats fout met 'n 300?? Soos dinge nou loop gaan ek dit op 'n 230 doen
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 12, 2015, 12:12:14 pm
I also don't have an issue with the licenses, I just want clarity. What will you be riding on?
I am looking for a WR450 but I might have to do the first few on a KTM 300 EXC.

Wats fout met 'n 300?? Soos dinge nou loop gaan ek dit op 'n 230 doen
Niks fout met die 300 nie behalwe dat dit nie meer myne is nie. My skoonseun het my mal gemaak met sy aanhoudende gekerm dat ek die 300 aan hom moet verkoop want ek het hom amper nooit meer gery nie. Ek het toe die bike aan hom verkoop en nou sit ek met my vinger in my agterent. >:(

Ek soek n WR 450 vir Amageza en sal dan maar die GOC ook met hom doen.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 12, 2015, 02:44:04 pm
Cracker, we have attended every GOC since the begining of time except for 2014

Congratulations. Now can we get back to the original question?  :pot:

Subtle - but good  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 12, 2015, 11:20:16 pm
Cracker, we have attended every GOC since the begining of time except for 2014

Congratulations. Now can we get back to the original question?  :pot:
And what was the question?  how to go about it and who's riding them?  that was answered in the second post.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 13, 2015, 06:29:11 am
Cracker, we have attended every GOC since the begining of time except for 2014

Congratulations. Now can we get back to the original question?  :pot:
And what was the question?  how to go about it and who's riding them?  that was answered in the second post.

I was hoping to get an idea of who'd be doing GOC and have a thread where people can get advice and support, not to start a debate about the impact of licenses
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 13, 2015, 01:52:00 pm
Ahh ok,, fair enough, what exactly would you like to know?  as to the initial question, join the GOC club, you get a discount on the entry fee and a 15% discount at EMD Racing, the format will be changing this year(so they say) to be slightly more tech than previous years but wit the races being more or less in the same places I rate they will be the same as the old GOC's, starting orders this year will possibly be based on championship finishes from last year as I aint seen anything about a seeding event, 3 laps of 60k's or less and if the loop drops below 50 normally 4 laps,, expect to be tired after the events and make sure you have a decent pit crew!
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 13, 2015, 02:44:58 pm
I joined GOC today. I emailed the application form and proof of payment early this morning and received the approval email with my membership number by 10:00. Quick and painless. :thumleft:

Have any of you applied for the MSA license yet and category did you get? I registered for their online licensing this morning. The online application process is straight forward and quick. I went through the whole process but did not buy the license as I am not sure whether a club license will be good enough for the border crossings during the Amageza.
Any suggestions from the boffins?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Buff on January 13, 2015, 02:51:53 pm
A Club licence is all you require unless you want to compete in the Regional championship  :thumleft:
You can still race all regionals under a club licence in the Silver class, you just won't qualify for regional points. Club is fine for Amageza as well.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 16, 2015, 08:02:31 am
Less than a month to go. Anybody riding? I suppose I need to start thinking of getting a pit crew together
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: IDR on January 16, 2015, 08:03:08 am
Less than a month to go. Anybody riding? I suppose I need to start thinking of getting a pit crew together

I doubt I'll have a bike by then.  Will happily pit for you.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 16, 2015, 08:10:56 am
Shot ons kan chat oor 'n paar koues
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Mooch on January 16, 2015, 08:28:39 am
Sub.. Sounds like a good idea to do some of these again.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 16, 2015, 09:23:13 am
Sub.. Sounds like a good idea to do some of these again.

Pull in! I've just done my budget and I might not make the first race. The december holiday hangover is strong this year  :lol8:

I've also stuffed my kit on Amageza. Need new riding pants and boots so there is a lot of money to be spent before I can go racing
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bazinga on January 16, 2015, 11:00:54 am
Ek sal n oog op die thread moet hou.. :ricky:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:38 pm
Less than a month to go. Anybody riding? I suppose I need to start thinking of getting a pit crew together

Ek kan ook hier en daar help met pit, het al n klompie agter die rug... in terme van pit crew, nie ry nie.

Keep in mind:

Gazebo
Enviro mat
Fire extinguisher
Toolbox
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: IDR on January 16, 2015, 12:23:13 pm
Less than a month to go. Anybody riding? I suppose I need to start thinking of getting a pit crew together

Ek kan ook hier en daar help met pit, het al n klompie agter die rug... in terme van pit crew, nie ry nie.

Keep in mind:

Gazebo
Enviro mat
Fire extinguisher
Toolbox


Ek het die laaste twee...
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 16, 2015, 12:26:20 pm
Less than a month to go. Anybody riding? I suppose I need to start thinking of getting a pit crew together

Ek kan ook hier en daar help met pit, het al n klompie agter die rug... in terme van pit crew, nie ry nie.

Keep in mind:

Gazebo
Enviro mat
Fire extinguisher
Toolbox


Ek het die laaste twee...

Cool. Ons het 'n enviro mats nog van Amageza en ek dink Bazinga het 'n gazebo. Anders moet Postnet ons maar weer sponsor  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 17, 2015, 10:09:27 am
Cool drinks - plenty of them!!!!

You'll be extrememly dehydrated when you finish, drink lots of coolies before your first beer. Otherwise you'll finish a 6-pack in 10 minutes, it'll go to your head and you'll drive home like a knob.

If you're a weekend warrior like me, don't be disappointed with a DNF or 2 when you start racing, it took me a couple of races to do all 3 laps and the first time I did it I was nearly dead from exhaustion.

I'll be missing the first race coz of doctor's orders but hopefully will be there for the second and subsequent races - can't wait really, I enjoyed them far more than the Amageza but maybe that's because I was on a proper bike.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Roulof on January 17, 2015, 03:55:02 pm
Howsit Guys,

I quite keen to do an event (or 2) this year, you think it is doable on an X-Challenge?

I'm quite keen to pitch at the 1st event and see how things play out.

Regards.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 17, 2015, 04:08:06 pm
Doable - yes
tough - yes
enjoyable - yes

Just fit rim locks and mousses or UHD tubes - riding 30kms back to the pits is the pits - can be done easily on a flat UHD tube, though

Many years ago, I pitched up at an off-road ride in Matatiele on my KLR - I didn't know any different and seeing as I'd drove there from JHB, I wasn't gonna quit, so I did the ride. Up into the hills of Lesotho it was - very tough going but I managed. I went where others turned for home AND I ended up carrying one of the plastic riders out of there, who'd bust his arm. It taught me that it's not about the bike, it's about you and your own limitations.

Unless you're going for the win - the X-challenge will live up to it's name  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Roulof on January 18, 2015, 02:42:04 pm
Thanks Cracker :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 18, 2015, 08:01:16 pm
I am new to this so need some help and suggestions.

What exactly does one need in terms of a pit and Pitt crew?
I have a gazebo, tools, fire extinguisher and will get an enviro mat from MSA when I buy my license.

How about refueling can you refuel from a container with a pipe or do you need one of those quick refueling bottles? I am not sure what those things are called.

What else do I need.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Rolling Stone on January 18, 2015, 08:48:52 pm
sub
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 18, 2015, 09:32:17 pm
I am new to this so need some help and suggestions.

What exactly does one need in terms of a pit and Pitt crew?
I have a gazebo, tools, fire extinguisher and will get an enviro mat from MSA when I buy my license.

How about refueling can you refuel from a container with a pipe or do you need one of those quick refueling bottles? I am not sure what those things are called.

What else do I need.

You don't actually need a pit crew at all - you can just pitch up and ride and just refuel next to your car - using the mat, of course. 2 laps will need no re-fuelling anyway and 3 will only need 5 litres more - on a 450, that is.

I've never had a crew but there was always a few riders in our group, so we'd have a gazebo, cooler box and chairs anyway.

You have all you need but that mat from MSA is not much use - rather get yourself a decent size doormat (1.2m x 1.0m) from Builders Warehouse - nice and cheap, it's big enough to use for tools, etc and for getting dressed/undressed. The pits can be in long grass.

Refueling -  anything will do - I use 5l plastic containers - the smaller it is, the easier it is to use. No pipes/refuellers needed - it's a relaxed atmosphere for the club racers.

A couple of races last year, we just pitched up with no gazebos, etc - we just raced and went home - there's bugger all to do there if you're not riding.

And I'm sure with the lack of nationals/regoinals this year, it'll be even more mellow.

Carry your med kit, a sun hat and water - you never know how long you'll be stuck out there if there's a mishap - they only do bike recovery after the race. No pit crew is allowed on the course during the event.

Glad to see you'll be in the fray - Mr Rolling Stone  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 18, 2015, 09:37:35 pm
I am new to this so need some help and suggestions.

What exactly does one need in terms of a pit and Pitt crew?
I have a gazebo, tools, fire extinguisher and will get an enviro mat from MSA when I buy my license.

How about refueling can you refuel from a container with a pipe or do you need one of those quick refueling bottles? I am not sure what those things are called.

What else do I need.

You don't need pitcrew technically, it just makes it easier. But if something goes wrong or need to be fixed it is nice to have help.
Refueling can be done by yourself, it just takes extra time. At a stop you will want to refuel, grab a bite and a drink and maybe clean goggles, so extra hands do help.
Then of course there' s the unloading and loading of your bike etc.
You can refuel from any container, the purpose built refuelers make is quicker and cleaner, no fun doing the next lap with fuel seeping into your pants that was spilt during pitting.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Hondsekierie on January 18, 2015, 09:51:56 pm
Sal na volgende naweek meer effort ingooi en julle manne join.  Dankie vir die effort sover Dwerg - goeie info :thumleft:

Reinhardt (IDR) - stop jou arm man stories en join ons net :ricky:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 19, 2015, 03:29:23 pm
I rode a plastic for the 1st time in more than three years on Saturday. We did the red loop at Wild West and it went much better than I expected. I expected to be toast after the 1st loop but surprisingly still felt good after the 1st loop. I did not go fast at all and I was passed by a lot of other riders. I will have to work hard on my speed and fitness.

Compared to Wild West how difficult/technical is a GOC race. I know it is much longer but just want to get an idea about the technical parts.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 19, 2015, 03:47:27 pm
Generally you won't find much more technical riding than at WW.
But there are some factors that make it more difficult.


Usually the GOC's are a bit more open with the odd klip koppie or mud hole thrown in. If there is a new venue then virgin terrain can also make the event more tiring.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 19, 2015, 05:21:47 pm
No bottlenecks at a GOC - 'cept maybe at a river crossing - the proposed harescramble starts will probably change all that, though  :'(
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 19, 2015, 06:44:27 pm
I am getting my bum knee fixed and need inspiration to get back into shape. Making one of the races in this series a goal may be just the motivation I need. My current playbike is  250 2-stroke MX bike. I have already dropped 2 teeth on the rear sprocket and at the moment it is doing 13.2 kph per 1000 revs in 5th, which means the maximum speed at which it can go for extended periods is about 100. Would I be able to use it or should I invest in something with a wide ratio box?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 19, 2015, 08:26:39 pm
In my opinion, although not ideal, a MX bike will do just fine. Maybe just consider softening the suspension and taking a good look at fuel range. The other drawback is the 19" rear wheel which you might have to run a bit harder to prevent pinch flats.
Then again, a sub 100kg bike helps when you need to pick it up.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 19, 2015, 09:14:35 pm
In my opinion, although not ideal, a MX bike will do just fine. Maybe just consider softening the suspension and taking a good look at fuel range. The other drawback is the 19" rear wheel which you might have to run a bit harder to prevent pinch flats.
Then again, a sub 100kg bike helps when you need to pick it up.
would you guy's like a tip on avoiding pinch flats?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 19, 2015, 09:18:46 pm
And sorry to disagree Cracker, I would suggest that you fill up every lap, 50-60k's a lap,,, it will be a bitch to have to push the last 5 k's back to pits
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 19, 2015, 09:33:45 pm
In my opinion, although not ideal, a MX bike will do just fine. Maybe just consider softening the suspension and taking a good look at fuel range. The other drawback is the 19" rear wheel which you might have to run a bit harder to prevent pinch flats.
Then again, a sub 100kg bike helps when you need to pick it up.
would you guy's like a tip on avoiding pinch flats?

All ears?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 19, 2015, 10:25:00 pm
And sorry to disagree Cracker, I would suggest that you fill up every lap, 50-60k's a lap,,, it will be a bitch to have to push the last 5 k's back to pits


I am not even sure whether the KTM300 will do 60 k'son a tank so I will def fill up after each lap. When I last rode at Dewildt from the casino to three fences? Riverbed to the shop I bought 6L of fuel there and barely made it back to the casino.

I must say we played a lot before heading to the shop but I have no idea how far we rode that day.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 19, 2015, 11:38:22 pm
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 20, 2015, 07:16:34 am
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)

I rarely got more than 10km/L. That is in normal bush riding, not dune riding.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Mooch on January 20, 2015, 07:45:23 am
I am getting my bum knee fixed and need inspiration to get back into shape. Making one of the races in this series a goal may be just the motivation I need. My current playbike is  250 2-stroke MX bike. I have already dropped 2 teeth on the rear sprocket and at the moment it is doing 13.2 kph per 1000 revs in 5th, which means the maximum speed at which it can go for extended periods is about 100. Would I be able to use it or should I invest in something with a wide ratio box?

MX Bike is fine - can even be an advantage!. just make sure you have enough fuel range to do a lap.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 20, 2015, 07:49:47 am
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)
What 450 are you on a DR?  my son gets just under 70 on his WR
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 20, 2015, 07:52:26 am
OK guy's here's a tip, smeer grease and lots of it on your tube before you put it in your tyre then also put gorilla snot in the tube, the grease prevents snake bites(pinch flats) and if a thorn ot nail goes through then the gorilla snot seals it
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 20, 2015, 08:19:20 am
What 450 are you on a DR?  my son gets just under 70 on his WR

Ha ha ha, ja but he uses an on/off switch instead of a throttle...
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 20, 2015, 08:19:40 am
OK guy's here's a tip, smeer grease and lots of it on your tube before you put it in your tyre then also put gorilla snot in the tube, the grease prevents snake bites(pinch flats) and if a thorn ot nail goes through then the gorilla snot seals it


Now you tell me...
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 20, 2015, 11:37:34 am
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)
What 450 are you on a DR?  my son gets just under 70 on his WR

close - a KLX

Kepp your eyes open for a young gun, bare-chested, surrounded by pit girls ................................. that won't be me  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Rolling Stone on January 20, 2015, 09:06:17 pm
I am new to this so need some help and suggestions.

What exactly does one need in terms of a pit and Pitt crew?
I have a gazebo, tools, fire extinguisher and will get an enviro mat from MSA when I buy my license.

How about refueling can you refuel from a container with a pipe or do you need one of those quick refueling bottles? I am not sure what those things are called.

What else do I need.

You don't actually need a pit crew at all - you can just pitch up and ride and just refuel next to your car - using the mat, of course. 2 laps will need no re-fuelling anyway and 3 will only need 5 litres more - on a 450, that is.

I've never had a crew but there was always a few riders in our group, so we'd have a gazebo, cooler box and chairs anyway.

You have all you need but that mat from MSA is not much use - rather get yourself a decent size doormat (1.2m x 1.0m) from Builders Warehouse - nice and cheap, it's big enough to use for tools, etc and for getting dressed/undressed. The pits can be in long grass.

Refueling -  anything will do - I use 5l plastic containers - the smaller it is, the easier it is to use. No pipes/refuellers needed - it's a relaxed atmosphere for the club racers.

A couple of races last year, we just pitched up with no gazebos, etc - we just raced and went home - there's bugger all to do there if you're not riding.

And I'm sure with the lack of nationals/regoinals this year, it'll be even more mellow.

Carry your med kit, a sun hat and water - you never know how long you'll be stuck out there if there's a mishap - they only do bike recovery after the race. No pit crew is allowed on the course during the event.

Glad to see you'll be in the fray - Mr Rolling Stone  :thumleft:
should have my bike sorted by end feb and then do some races.
get that leg of yours sorted so that we can go race boet.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 20, 2015, 09:25:29 pm
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)
What 450 are you on a DR?  my son gets just under 70 on his WR

close - a KLX

Kepp your eyes open for a young gun, bare-chested, surrounded by pit girls ................................. that won't be me  :biggrin:
Kobus Jonk used to race a KLX,, ran top 5 at GOC's with it
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 21, 2015, 08:28:34 am
The KX is out of commission again. I seriously doubt that I will ever get it to a stage where it will finish one lap, so I might just as well start with a clean slate.
What would be the ideal 1st bike for this kind of racing, bearing in mind that I weigh 90kg+, and my plastic riding skills are mediocre at best.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 21, 2015, 08:44:08 am
The KX is out of commission again. I seriously doubt that I will ever get it to a stage where it will finish one lap, so I might just as well start with a clean slate.
What would be the ideal 1st bike for this kind of racing, bearing in mind that I weigh 90kg+, and my plastic riding skills are mediocre at best.


2015 KTM 500 XCW Six Days.... :thumleft:

Brrraaaaappp!!
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 21, 2015, 09:02:17 am
Geez I'm scared of doing on a 450  :-[

Busy with bike shopping. Hope to have everything prepped for the first race. Otherwise I'll have to start from the second race
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 21, 2015, 09:15:38 am
Geez I'm scared of doing on a 450  :-[

Busy with bike shopping. Hope to have everything prepped for the first race. Otherwise I'll have to start from the second race

I'll definitely kill myself on a 450 class bike. I am considering a 250 4T. Pity Kawasaki doesn't have one with a wide ratio box. I could sneak it in and my wife may not even notice the difference.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 21, 2015, 09:17:54 am
There are some nice red 250s going for good prices. I am going to stick with 450 though. You never know, the funds might become available for an Amageza build  :angel12:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: BLK on January 21, 2015, 09:22:26 am
There are some nice red 250s going for good prices. I am going to stick with 450 though. You never know, the funds might become available for an Amageza build  :angel12:
Dwerg:have you thought of picking up a KTM 200.It is a lighter version of a 250.Wonderful bike

cheers
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 21, 2015, 09:26:57 am
There are some nice red 250s going for good prices. I am going to stick with 450 though. You never know, the funds might become available for an Amageza build  :angel12:
Dwerg:have you thought of picking up a KTM 200.It is a lighter version of a 250.Wonderful bike

cheers

I love a KTM 200. Will have to see what comes up for sale I guess but I'd prefer a 450 for GOC. And of course there is the option of building a rally bike out of it


Maybe a 200 for enduros next year
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 21, 2015, 08:32:02 pm
I am battling a bit to understand the GOC rules. Am I right in assuming that capacity classes OR1-OR3 only apply to the semi pro and pro class and that in the seniors 38 years and older and master classes, there isnít a capacity distinction, so a 200 2T competes directly against a 450 4T?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 21, 2015, 10:45:43 pm
I am battling a bit to understand the GOC rules. Am I right in assuming that capacity classes OR1-OR3 only apply to the semi pro and pro class and that in the seniors 38 years and older and master classes, there isnít a capacity distinction, so a 200 2T competes directly against a 450 4T?
Thats correct WRT seniors and vets,, club classes have OR1-3 as well
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 21, 2015, 10:47:39 pm
I'm feeling good so does anyone want to take a bet that my 450 will finish in the top 5 overall barring mechanical failure or a moer of a crash?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 21, 2015, 11:02:53 pm
I am battling a bit to understand the GOC rules. Am I right in assuming that capacity classes OR1-OR3 only apply to the semi pro and pro class and that in the seniors 38 years and older and master classes, there isnít a capacity distinction, so a 200 2T competes directly against a 450 4T?

yep, that's right - us oldies can ride whatever we want.

Do not underestimate a 55yr old on a 200 - you will be very surprised when that 'kid' in the bling outfit takes his helmet off at the end of the race and he's old, bald, wrinkled and has cataracts in all four eyes - and he's just kicked your arse!!

That won't be me, of course, I'm stuck with a cumbersome 450 .......................  ;)

--------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry, mate - I can't bet you, StuartC, I don't know you from a bar of soap. Are you famous???
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 22, 2015, 07:17:03 am
No but my bike is a Yamie and they are moer fast,,
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 22, 2015, 09:15:44 am
No but my bike is a Yamie and they are moer fast,,

Ha ha ha!
Who's riding your bike?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Motties on January 22, 2015, 10:06:12 am
I'm feeling good so does anyone want to take a bet that my 450 will finish in the top 5 overall barring mechanical failure or a moer of a crash?
I will most definitely NOT take that bet!!  :thumleft: :ricky:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 22, 2015, 03:24:59 pm
No but my bike is a Yamie and they are moer fast,,

Ha ha ha!
Who's riding your bike?
Bud my son will be riding it, he's only 21 and has only done about 7 hours on a bike in the last year
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 22, 2015, 03:50:11 pm
No but my bike is a Yamie and they are moer fast,,

Ha ha ha!
Who's riding your bike?
Bud my son will be riding it, he's only 21 and has only done about 7 hours on a bike in the last year

And I'm sure he's gotten flabby and unfit and can't remember which side the clutch lever is. Not that he ever knew where the brakes were...

All bets are off...
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 22, 2015, 05:22:27 pm
He has improved a little since we last rode Bud, he's on a full sized bike now and enjoying it,,,lol
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 22, 2015, 05:49:04 pm
I am seriously considering a 300 EXC. Any opinions?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 22, 2015, 06:07:20 pm
I am seriously considering a 300 EXC. Any opinions?
That's what I will be riding but a old one
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 22, 2015, 08:31:13 pm
I am seriously considering a 300 EXC. Any opinions?
That's what I will be riding but a old one

Iím also looking for a 2nd hand bike. Nothing looks worse that an out of shape, unskilled rider bringing up the rear on the latest equipment.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 23, 2015, 07:28:51 am
You must be talking about me  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on January 23, 2015, 11:56:48 am
I am seriously considering a 300 EXC. Any opinions?

Of the offroad bikes I owned the 300XCW was my favourite.
In technical terrain it really is like cheating.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 27, 2015, 01:01:26 pm
I got my MSA license and Race number today.
Just thinking about about the 1st race gives me the jitters! I cant wait :ricky:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on January 27, 2015, 01:02:32 pm
I got my MSA license and Race number today.
Just thinking about about the 1st race gives me the jitters! I cant wait :ricky:

Awesome  :thumleft:

Finances are still holding me back a little but I am working on it
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 27, 2015, 03:10:37 pm
Went onto the GOC site last night to enter,,, can't get to the entry page
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on January 27, 2015, 03:45:14 pm
Last year they were opening entries about 2 weeks before the race - maybe it'll be the same this year.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on January 27, 2015, 04:22:46 pm
I got my MSA license and Race number today.
Just thinking about about the 1st race gives me the jitters! I cant wait :ricky:


Which MSA license did you get by the way? I was shopping around on their website and there's all these categories... Not too sure which license is sufficient.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on January 27, 2015, 04:46:19 pm
getting a national but you only need a club licence
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 27, 2015, 05:51:42 pm
I got a club. Motorcycle non circuit.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 30, 2015, 06:20:22 pm
So I donít need a competition licence for the GOC races, just a Medical Aid card. This is quite important for me, because I have zero chance of getting medical clearance. I donít want to go to all the trouble for nothing.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on January 30, 2015, 07:00:21 pm
So I donít need a competition licence for the GOC races, just a Medical Aid card. This is quite important for me, because I have zero chance of getting medical clearance. I donít want to go to all the trouble for nothing.
You must have a MSA license with their compulsory medical insurance to race GOC. The application is online and you tick no to all the medical questions if there is nothing applicable to you. If you click yes then another page will open up and you will have to give more details and get a report from your own doctor which MSA will consider before deciding to issue a license.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Bensien on January 31, 2015, 09:03:52 am
So I donít need a competition licence for the GOC races, just a Medical Aid card. This is quite important for me, because I have zero chance of getting medical clearance. I donít want to go to all the trouble for nothing.
You must have a MSA license with their compulsory medical insurance to race GOC. The application is online and you tick no to all the medical questions if there is nothing applicable to you. If you click yes then another page will open up and you will have to give more details and get a report from your own doctor which MSA will consider before deciding to issue a license.

I have an outstanding request for a medical clearance certificate. I canít get around it unless I get a doctor to lie for me, which could get us both into serious trouble. Itís not worth it
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 05, 2015, 08:35:05 am
I see that the entries for the 1st race have opened at last but I am still waiting for my username and password before I can enter. ???
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on February 05, 2015, 09:28:04 am
I got my MSA license and Race number today.
Just thinking about about the 1st race gives me the jitters! I cant wait :ricky:


Which MSA license did you get by the way? I was shopping around on their website and there's all these categories... Not too sure which license is sufficient.
Minxy, if you plan to do the Amageza 2015 , things could be complicated as it could involve a (international)/national/club licence, the regs will state what the requirements will be. Check the Amageza 2015 regs , is it available yet ? Alex should be contacted for that info.
For GOC races , I think a club licence is a minimum requirement. Check out their regs.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 05, 2015, 10:58:08 am
I spend some time at the Wild West Enduro track this last Saturday. I am going there again next Saturday
Here are a few clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfAlv_Ln7KI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfAlv_Ln7KI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtT_jnzLAOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtT_jnzLAOA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzykPZapfWg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzykPZapfWg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRz9skDOMk0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRz9skDOMk0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqU3zOigq-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqU3zOigq-8)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on February 05, 2015, 02:58:42 pm
I got my MSA license and Race number today.
Just thinking about about the 1st race gives me the jitters! I cant wait :ricky:


Which MSA license did you get by the way? I was shopping around on their website and there's all these categories... Not too sure which license is sufficient.
Minxy, if you plan to do the Amageza 2015 , things could be complicated as it could involve a (international)/national/club licence, the regs will state what the requirements will be. Check the Amageza 2015 regs , is it available yet ? Alex should be contacted for that info.
For GOC races , I think a club licence is a minimum requirement. Check out their regs.

I spoke to Alexander on Facebook and he said a MSA club license is fine for Amageza, I'll be getting it soon.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 05, 2015, 03:25:02 pm
I see that the entries for the 1st race have opened at last but I am still waiting for my username and password before I can enter. ???

Phone GOC on 012 333 1852 and ask for help. I had to jump through a few hoops to get it sorted and their telephonic advice didn't work ................

Try this : - Username = first initial plus surname, all small letters eg> Peter Oes would be ...............  >:D >:D

Password: - 12345a for all

If they ever ask for fav colour, answer = blue

maybe  ::)

Oh, and enjoy filling in the documentation - you gonna love it   :lamer: ::) :deal: :'(
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 06, 2015, 10:03:56 am
I see that the entries for the 1st race have opened at last but I am still waiting for my username and password before I can enter. ???

Phone GOC on 012 333 1852 and ask for help. I had to jump through a few hoops to get it sorted and their telephonic advice didn't work ................

Try this : - Username = first initial plus surname, all small letters eg> Peter Oes would be ...............  >:D >:D

Password: - 12345a for all

If they ever ask for fav colour, answer = blue

maybe  ::)

Oh, and enjoy filling in the documentation - you gonna love it   :lamer: ::) :deal: :'(
Ha ha :thumleft: Thanks Cracker, I got their email late yesterday afternoon. Details exactly as you said. I have tried to access the online entry page this morning but it just keep on timing out.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 08, 2015, 08:33:35 pm
OK so I have entered and paid for the 1st race.
Who else is doing the 1st race?
I have read somewhere that the bikes will have to be pushed  while in the pit area but the regs for Saturday don't say anything about this. Does anyone here know anything about it?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 08, 2015, 09:50:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTwrfUqtN8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTwrfUqtN8) Here is my son at WW, this was 4 years ago still on a YZ250f then,, on my 450 for the GOC,,
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 09, 2015, 11:39:34 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTwrfUqtN8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTwrfUqtN8) Here is my son at WW, this was 4 years ago still on a YZ250f then,, on my 450 for the GOC,,
That is way to fast for me. If I can do 50% of his pace I will be happy.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 09, 2015, 04:15:55 pm
If I could run 50% of his pace i would be extatic!
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 10, 2015, 10:49:01 am
How did you guys make your medical boards? Could it be on a white paper that is laminated or should it be something stiffer? How or where do you carry it? Can it be folded up?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 10, 2015, 12:13:13 pm
I bought one from WOA in Randburg - was cheap and as far as I remember Wayne also has MSA medical kits for sale.

Enjoy the first race, Gee S, you'll have a head start on the rest of us, come the 2nd round  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Buff on February 10, 2015, 12:18:33 pm
How did you guys make your medical boards? Could it be on a white paper that is laminated or should it be something stiffer? How or where do you carry it? Can it be folded up?

Print a big red + on an A4 and a big green OK on another piece, put them back to back and laminate them, works 100% and can be folded  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Motties on February 10, 2015, 03:28:58 pm
How did you guys make your medical boards? Could it be on a white paper that is laminated or should it be something stiffer? How or where do you carry it? Can it be folded up?

Print a big red + on an A4 and a big green OK on another piece, put them back to back and laminate them, works 100% and can be folded  :thumleft:
Use a permanent marker on a white cloth 300 x 300mm fold it up into your medical aid kit, works better to use two pieces (one for each side) and sew them together afterwards.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Blitsie on February 10, 2015, 04:12:18 pm
How did you guys make your medical boards? Could it be on a white paper that is laminated or should it be something stiffer? How or where do you carry it? Can it be folded up?

Print a big red + on an A4 and a big green OK on another piece, put them back to back and laminate them, works 100% and can be folded  :thumleft:
Use a permanent marker on a white cloth 300 x 300mm fold it up into your medical aid kit, works better to use two pieces (one for each side) and sew them together afterwards.
I spray painted a red cross and green "ok" on a old white pillow cover which is stashed in a plastic bag so deep in my bumbag that it will most properly take me a day to find. It is 1 of those requirements for racing which I don't think anybody ever used. Don't invest bucks in getting it. I am yet to find 2 okes going to each other saying "check my mediese sign".
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Blitsie on February 10, 2015, 04:16:45 pm
Are 2Ts really that bad on fuel?

My 450 is good for about 140kms on a tank - about 8 or 9 litres - 2 laps easy

Saying that, my KDX chomps fuel - I dunno how much but I'm always surprised when I look into an empty tank  ::)
What 450 are you on a DR?  my son gets just under 70 on his WR
Sl

close - a KLX

Kepp your eyes open for a young gun, bare-chested, surrounded by pit girls ................................. that won't be me  :biggrin:
Kobus Jonk used to race a KLX,, ran top 5 at GOC's with it
Slow down there old man. Was Kobus not running a KXF?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 10, 2015, 08:31:10 pm
How did you guys make your medical boards? Could it be on a white paper that is laminated or should it be something stiffer? How or where do you carry it? Can it be folded up?

Print a big red + on an A4 and a big green OK on another piece, put them back to back and laminate them, works 100% and can be folded  :thumleft:
Use a permanent marker on a white cloth 300 x 300mm fold it up into your medical aid kit, works better to use two pieces (one for each side) and sew them together afterwards.
I spray painted a red cross and green "ok" on a old white pillow cover which is stashed in a plastic bag so deep in my bumbag that it will most properly take me a day to find. It is 1 of those requirements for racing which I don't think anybody ever used. Don't invest bucks in getting it. I am yet to find 2 okes going to each other saying "check my mediese sign".

You obviously didn't rode a quad .................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 10, 2015, 09:35:52 pm
In 30 years of racing I have never seen anyone use their board
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 10, 2015, 09:38:58 pm
Thanks guys, I laminated my board, but I am sure it won't look good for long after being folded. I like the idea of making one on cloth that can fold up nice and small. SWAMBO will make me one for the next race
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 10, 2015, 09:40:28 pm
In 30 years of racing I have never seen anyone use their board
I suppose they won't let you race if they check and you don't have it.
What would be a good tyre pressure to run front and rear. Is it very rocky at Bronkhorstspruit?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 11, 2015, 12:01:27 am
This is a new place abt bronkies, we aint raced here before,, to be safe run 1 bar, even better coat your tube in grease,, that stops impact punctures
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on February 11, 2015, 07:06:09 am
 
 Red Rubber grease is the one, it is compatible with "rubber" items.
 Used it with mooses to.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Motties on February 12, 2015, 01:34:22 pm
What's the story with pushing the bike in the pits (or am I hearing wrong)? In previous years the pits were moer long - pushing the bike through there will take forever.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 12, 2015, 02:36:48 pm
What's the story with pushing the bike in the pits (or am I hearing wrong)? In previous years the pits were moer long - pushing the bike through there will take forever.
I really hope that it is just a rumor. There are already 96 bike and 24 quad entries, so imagine how long the pit area will be.
I will be farked if I have to push a bike for more than 20 to 30 meters.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 12, 2015, 02:48:29 pm
will never happen,, walking pace 1st gear
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on February 12, 2015, 03:17:07 pm
I wonder if they might be angling towards what is being done at the World Enduro Series, i.e. no riding of bikes outside of the event. In which case a pit stop is part of the event and hence could be ridden. But before the start and after the finish, bikes may not start.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 12, 2015, 03:40:55 pm
will never happen,, walking pace 1st gear

Agree - just a silly rumour.

Most were pushing their bikes along the start last year anyway

But you guys will let us know on Monday, right?  :ricky:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 13, 2015, 07:43:44 am
I have never even been to a GOC or any other off road race for that matter so I need all the info I can get.
1. How does it work in the pit area?
2. Do you just rock up and pitch your gazebo anywhere you like and is there a limit to the size of the space that one can use?
3. At what time should I be there tomorrow morning?
4. Would it be acceptable to bring a small generator to run the cooler box or would someone complain about the noise? >:D
5. What would be the best route to get there from Roodepoort, via Pretoria or via Benoni?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on February 13, 2015, 08:08:23 am
one rule, be considerate,, thats all
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: bud500 on February 13, 2015, 08:08:50 am
I have never even been to a GOC or any other off road race for that matter so I need all the info I can get.
1. How does it work in the pit area?
2. Do you just rock up and pitch your gazebo anywhere you like and is there a limit to the size of the space that one can use?
3. At what time should I be there tomorrow morning?
4. Would it be acceptable to bring a small generator to run the cooler box or would someone complain about the noise? >:D
5. What would be the best route to get there from Roodepoort, via Pretoria or via Benoni?

1. Study your SSR's;
2. Yes rock up and pitch, the earlier you get there the bigger your choice. Average sized gazebos are fine. Probably not a good idea to waste space if you are only one bike though;
3. Give yourself lots of time, the earlier the beter. Allow for possibly getting lost on the way;
4. You can run a gennie with an extention cord but I would say that is overkill. Cooler box and lots of ice is fine. There are usually drinks for sale as well;
5. Route I would say N1 then N4. Or depending where in Roodepoort, maybe N14, N1, N4.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Blitsie on February 13, 2015, 11:10:18 am
I have never even been to a GOC or any other off road race for that matter so I need all the info I can get.
1. How does it work in the pit area?  - 1st gear 15km/h and they have someone measuring your speed. To fast and you get penalized with time at the end. Refuel on enviro-mat, no drinking in the pits, you must be off your bike to refuel and bikes engine must be switched off. You are not allowed to take short cuts. Stay in the lane and DO NOT pass anybody.
2. Do you just rock up and pitch your gazebo anywhere you like and is there a limit to the size of the space that one can use? Yes, 1st come, 1st serve. Some people setup the night before to have a nice spot but it does not make a difference. EVERYBODY MUST ride through the entire pit anyway. Take 1 gazebo for every 3 riders. Be considerate with your neighbours.
3. At what time should I be there tomorrow morning? 6am on your 1st time if you start at 8am. If you start at 12am, get there anyway at 6am and get a feel for what is going on if it is your 1st time.
4. Would it be acceptable to bring a small generator to run the cooler box or would someone complain about the noise? >:D Run your generator. What vehicle are you driving then I can maybe come and put my beers in your fridge.  :thumleft: If anybody complains, tell them to piss off.
5. What would be the best route to get there from Roodepoort, via Pretoria or via Benoni? What bud500 said.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 13, 2015, 02:32:59 pm
I have never even been to a GOC or any other off road race for that matter so I need all the info I can get.
1. How does it work in the pit area?  - 1st gear 15km/h and they have someone measuring your speed. To fast and you get penalized with time at the end. Refuel on enviro-mat, no drinking in the pits, you must be off your bike to refuel and bikes engine must be switched off. You are not allowed to take short cuts. Stay in the lane and DO NOT pass anybody.
2. Do you just rock up and pitch your gazebo anywhere you like and is there a limit to the size of the space that one can use? Yes, 1st come, 1st serve. Some people setup the night before to have a nice spot but it does not make a difference. EVERYBODY MUST ride through the entire pit anyway. Take 1 gazebo for every 3 riders. Be considerate with your neighbours.
3. At what time should I be there tomorrow morning? 6am on your 1st time if you start at 8am. If you start at 12am, get there anyway at 6am and get a feel for what is going on if it is your 1st time.
4. Would it be acceptable to bring a small generator to run the cooler box or would someone complain about the noise? >:D Run your generator. What vehicle are you driving then I can maybe come and put my beers in your fridge.  :thumleft: If anybody complains, tell them to piss off.
5. What would be the best route to get there from Roodepoort, via Pretoria or via Benoni? What bud500 said.
I will be in a white Nissan Harbody Double cab Gazebo is one of those green canvas jobbies. 300KTM no C278. Decided to rather leave the gennie too much other stuff to take along but you are welcome to come over anyway.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on February 13, 2015, 04:58:07 pm
Lekker! Neem 'n foto of twee en laat ons weet hoe dit gegaan het
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on February 14, 2015, 07:44:49 am
 
 Dit reen vanoggend lekker hier in Pretoria-Oos
 Ek reken die roete gaan ook nat wees ? Of tenminste stofloos. Lekker !
 Laat weet ons hoe dit gaan en soos Dwerg vra, FOTOS asseblief.
 
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on February 16, 2015, 09:37:57 am
 Pics & reports ?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 16, 2015, 12:13:00 pm
My eerste GOC race is nou amptelik agter die rug en ek moet se ek het dit baie geniet. Ons het Saterdag oggend amper die heel pad in die reen gery en ek was redelik bekommerd dat dit n modder bad gaan wees. Gelukkig het dit ophou reen voor ons daar aangekom het. Net net nadat ons die gazebo opgeslaan het het dirt weer liggies begin reen maar dit het gelukkig nie lank gehou nie. Die reen was net genoeg om die gras super glad te maak maar nie genoeg om te help met die stof nie.

Toe ek begin opkit was ek nogal baie senuweeagtig maar met die begin van die race was ek heel kalm. Ek het vir my n goeie wegspring gehad en ek dink uit 12 bikes was ek 6de of 7de deur die hek. Die ouens wat in die begin agter was het my wel later verby gegaan. Goot dele van die roete was gladderige gras met baie gras polle en versteekte klippe en die graspolle was onvermeidelik en het my tande laat klap ek het ook n paar klippe onder die gras gertref maar gelukkig sonder enige snakebites.

Ek het op n stadiumgevoel my agterwiel raak pap en moes toe stop om dit reg temaak wat my baie tyd gekos het. Ek kon net nie die Fugit se pypie kry nie en het toe probeer om dit daaronder in die tube in te kry maar dit wou net nie werk nie. Ek het my bumbag drie of vier keer uitgepak maar die pypie was net weg terwyl ek doodseker was dat ek dit wel ingepak het. Toe ek uit moedeloosheid alles op die grond uitgooi kry ek uituindelik die pypie waar dit onder aan die spaar sparkplug se boksie aan n stuk sellotape hang :dousing:

Van daar het alles darem goed gegaan. Die baan was meestal oop grasveld met baie draaie en n klipkoppie  met baie klippe, daar was ook n paar bebosde gedeeltes wat baie skerp draaie opmekaar gehad het. Dan was daar was ook n groot modder gat wat veral op die tweede rondte lekker diep uitgetrap was. Daar was ook n paar lekker straights met klippe en los sand op plekke in die mielie lande en hulle was nie baie lank nie. Die stof in die mielie lande was baie erg en ek het op n stadium teen n stadige drafstappie gery net om uit die stof uit te bly terwyl die topmanne flatout by my verby gekom het. Ek weet nou nog nie hoe hulle so vinnig kan ry terwyl hylle bogger all kan sien nie. Elke loop was so 40 Km lank.

Ek was laaste maar dit het my nie eers gepla nie. Om klaar te maak  sonder om te crash en om dit te geniet was my doelwit vir die eerste race en ek het dit bereik.

Die formaat is vir my 100% van wat ek wil doen dit was baie lekker. Die catering was ook redelik goed en ek sal beslis my bes doen om die volgende race ook te ry.

Ek het n paar fotos en video's wat ek sal probeer om vanaand op te laai.




Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 16, 2015, 08:33:57 pm
Well done Gee S, glad you enjoyed it. AND you finished, which is a bonus on your first attempt.

See you at the next one  :thumleft:

P.S. Yep, those fast boys have some 6th sense - or maybe, no sense at all.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Buff on February 16, 2015, 09:20:48 pm
Well done Gee S, always good to get the first one behind you with a finish  :thumleft: Placing means nothing just yet, just go have fun and improve your skill level  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on February 17, 2015, 07:32:41 am

 Mooiso Gee S !
 Om klaar te maak is altyd lekker veral met die eerste ren.
 Pap wiele tref almal wat binnebande gebruik.
 Bele' in moosses, dit is elke sent werd as jy dit meet hoeveel geld dit jou kos (alle kostes) om deel te neem.
 In 2013 het ek n laaitjie vol geborg, behalwe sy inskrywingsgeld in die open club klas.
 Ek het ordentelike moosses ingesit. Wil nie pap wiele he' nie want vir n GOC tiepe ren is jy uit met net n pap wiel t.o.v punte.
 Ons boel was om met die 1e helfte van die reeks binne die eerste 15 klaar te maak.
 Daarna, met die 2e helfte, in die eerste 10 klaar te maak.
 Hy't met die 1e wedren laaste weggetrek, en stelselmatig opgeskuif en elke wedren weggetrek en elke ene klaar gemaak.
 Uiteindelik het hy (#205) 3e in die reeks geeindig sonder om n wen vir 'n wedren los te ry.
 Dit is met een stel moosses gedoen saam met twee vars voor- en drie vars agter bande.
 Consistency is the name of this GOC game. 
 
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 17, 2015, 10:21:58 am
Dankie julle. Ek moet se ek voel nogal goed  dat ek klaar gemaak het.

My hoofdoel om die GOC races is om ondervinding te kry en fiks te word. n Wen is glad nie deel van my planne nie maar ek wil probeer om elke wedren klaar te maak en om in elke wedren n klein bietjie beter te ry.

Gser ek dink jy is reg met die mooses ek is nou moeg vir papwiele, die vorige naweek by Wild West moes ek n voor en ager tube koop teen R300-00 elk plus fitting nou nog die naweek se tube vervang en ek is al amper halfpad na die prys van mooses. Ek sal beslis n plan moet maak.

Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 18, 2015, 08:43:00 pm
Hier is n paar fotos. My skooneun het ongelukkig geen fotos ntydens die wedren geneem nie.. Ek sukkel nog om my helmet cam video's te edit maar sal dit op laai sodra ek dit reg het.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0375_zpsb271e571.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0375_zpsb271e571.jpg.html)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0377_zpsc64f83df.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0377_zpsc64f83df.jpg.html)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0380_zps830dd0f9.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0380_zps830dd0f9.jpg.html)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0382_zpsf016cd81.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0382_zpsf016cd81.jpg.html)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0386_zps12f4dea6.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Bronkhorstspruit/IMG_0386_zps12f4dea6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on February 19, 2015, 08:06:55 am
Nice pics  :thumleft:

I did a 'Family Adventures' ride on the weekend (for a post-op warm-up) and went over the bars at 100+, after hitting a lurker. It wasn't a race but you know how it goes ................ dunno how I missed another hospital visit  :o :o :o

Although some dangers were marked, the ones that were gonna kill you at high speed weren't.

Made me realise how much safer the GOCs are - being marked for racers and not family out-rides.

I'm looking forward to the next GOC, just gotta get my ribs sorted ........

Gee S, how many riders were there and how were you seperated into your starting groups?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 19, 2015, 08:37:14 am
Glad you are OK  Another serious injurie would have been bad news. I hit a lurker between the pull away and the start gate and almost saw my arse right there but in retrospect I think that was a good thing as that cleared the redmist immediately.

I am a noob but to me the route was really well marked. I just have to remember to look at the markings. In the video you will see I did not react in time to all the markings.

We were 111 bikes and 29 Quads.

The Quads started early and the bikes statrted at 11:00, by that time some of the quads were already finished.

We were set up in rows devided by class, OR1, OR2, Seniors, Masters, Ladys and the Pros started last with a 2 mininute gap between the start of each class. I think it worked very well with the only danger point being the gate where the groups with more riders bunched up a bit but there were no crashes that I am aware of. Also the futher back you started the more space there was to strech the bunch out before reaching the gate,

Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on February 19, 2015, 09:05:13 am
Hier  solank twee clips. Hulle cover min of meer die 1ste helfte van die 1st loop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nrqlU7sqac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nrqlU7sqac)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8r2wGpLlcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8r2wGpLlcw)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 02, 2015, 07:23:53 pm
Gee S, what's the difference between Pro and Pro-Amateur?

I see that they rode at different times and the Pros rode 1/2 an hour longer than the Pro-Amateurs.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on March 02, 2015, 07:30:51 pm
big diff's between the Pro's and amateur's
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 02, 2015, 10:05:25 pm
Gee S, what's the difference between Pro and Pro-Amateur?

I see that they rode at different times and the Pros rode 1/2 an hour longer than the Pro-Amateurs.
I am not 100% sure but I think the Pro amateurs are for the wanna be racers like me and the Pro's are for the guys that can really ride. They also have to do more laps than the amateurs.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 02, 2015, 10:34:36 pm
The 2nd round will no longer be at Warmbaths, it will now be at Carletonville. The date is still the 14th of March.
Anybody else doing this one?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 03, 2015, 07:20:03 am
Me + a couple other geriatrics

Will be riding Master Pro Amateur class - sounds like I know what I'm doing - should be called Vintage Class  ::)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 03, 2015, 08:36:29 am
Me + a couple other geriatrics

Will be riding Master Pro Amateur class - sounds like I know what I'm doing - should be called Vintage Class  ::)
Ha Ha, I am also in the master class. Master of disaster if you ask me. :lol8:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 03, 2015, 08:21:25 pm
fcuk it, Ive got the same sorta kak as last year - it's impossible to enter my first race - FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Done all I have to do but there's no scrutineering form or submit entry button when entering - how, in this day and age, can these knobs still not get it right?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

As much as I hate to say it - we need a spotty american kid .........................

Amateurs  ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 03, 2015, 08:41:52 pm
Frustrating to say the least. Entries was supossedly opened yesterday, but I had no luck. Will try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on March 03, 2015, 09:56:31 pm
The system was great until they changed from Race Control to Pro Timing, I know of numerous riders who have given up trying to enter, best is to call Hannes tomorrow and sort it out with him
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 04, 2015, 07:23:10 am
Will give it a couple days, he's probably getting bombarded at the moment .......................
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 04, 2015, 03:36:11 pm
Everything seems to be working now. I have entered and paid.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 09, 2015, 05:30:32 pm
60 odd senior bike entries so far and a handfull of quads - is GOC gonna make it through the year????

Last year we had hundreds, even at the club races. What was it like in years gone by, StuartC??

I think they've commited suicide by not attracting the regional and national riders ....... hope I'm wrong, though.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on March 10, 2015, 01:11:17 pm
At one stage they had to cut off at 400 riders and over 100 quads, what would have made it work this year would have been if they went with the GNCC racing that they were going to and no affiliation to MSA/WOMZA which would have attracted the weekend warrior like the Farm Jam events, also the entry fee of R600 is a bit steep  IMHO, they needed to bring it down to around R400 for what it is at the end of the day,, I hope it makes the end of the season,, would be a shame if it dies.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 12, 2015, 11:06:44 am
Senior bikes 90 entries at the moment but only 24 quads? lets hope for at least 20 to 30 more bike entries.
Exept for the distance of races was there anything else that changed? Why the sudden a lack of interest in this series?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on March 12, 2015, 04:13:29 pm
It's been dying over the last couple of years, there are a few reasons, using the same venue's ,cost etc,, big problem is venues are in short supply
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on March 12, 2015, 10:55:23 pm
 & money in short reply ?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 15, 2015, 05:13:16 pm
Well, that's my first one out of the way - I'm feeling like I've been hit with a hammer today

I'm not too sure doing these GOCs at 50 is such a good idea. I managed the 3 laps but was hoping to squeeze in a 4th before the timebar, luckily they told me to stop .............. I was pooped and dehydrated. I drove home with a banging headache that took hours to clear.

And to top it all, I've got blisters on my throttle hand !! I haven't had blisters for years - must be the new JT gloves I was wearing. I wore them for 5 days straight at last years Amageza but they fooked me up in 3 hours yesterday and I didn't even get wet hands.

In fact, the only water crossing for the day was about 6 inches wide - it was dusty and hot AND my riding buddy beat me - knob!

But I'll be back for the next one - he ain't getting away with that  >:D

P.S. the turnout was good - I don't think I'd like more riders, the dust woulda been more hectic.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 17, 2015, 10:54:18 am
So the second race is over and I had a great race.

The start with all the bikes lined up by class is exciting and nerve wrecking at the same time. The only thing that I dont like about the dead engine start is that the guys with electrick starters will allways be 1st of the line and through the gate. on the other hand I suppose it makes things a little less hectick as it speads things out a little and you dont have 18 bikes trying to go through the gate at the same time.
 
Like Cracker said the dust was really bad espescially the 1st few K's after the start when we were still bunched up. A couple of K's after the start there was a sharp turn to the right that I feel should have been marked as a tripple danger as the track turned right just after a little hump. With all the dust I did not see it in time and myself and a few guys in front of me went straight into the vlei barely missing two guys that have crashed there. I later spoke to the one guys daughter who told me that he was ok but that he broke his right leg just above the knee.

In the vlei the guy in front of me roosted me so badly that I could not see anything and had to remove and clean my goggles. I lost about 2 minutes here. The good thing about this was that I had clean air in front of me when I pulled away again but the bad was that I was stone last. So I put my head down and went for it

The terrain suited my limited experience very well and I was able to make up a couple of places again. I only had my wife as pitcrew and I am sure that without the help of one of the guys from Silverlake KTM on the one side and a guy from Yamaha on our other side I would have lost a lot of time in the pitts. Unfortunately I did not get their names but thank you very much. :thumleft:

On the second lap I speeded up a bit and going down a long bumpy straight at about 120 where the frontwheel became airborne a few times I sudenly got a very violent tankslapper and I still dont know how I managed to stay upright, but I can tell you it scared me silly, on the last lap I cruised down there. a Little later I again had a mild tankslapper going flat out but the front wheel did not get much air this time. What could be the cause of this?

Regarding hydration I drank less than 2 liters from my Camel Back during the three laps and was not dehydrated at all.
The night before the race I would drink 500 mills of water with a sache of Magnesit in it and about 30 minutes before the race I would drink another 500 mills. I fill my Camel back with 2 liters water and 2 saches of Magnesit. When coming in to pitt I would drink another 500mills of magenesit water.
This works well for me and also prevent my legs from cramping up.

I will try to post some photo's and video clips toninght

Fluit fluit my storie is uit.


Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 18, 2015, 01:14:10 pm
A few picks so long
Getting ready
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On the startline
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/18946949-8876-451A-801A-4B6269840CC1_zpspdci59ib.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/18946949-8876-451A-801A-4B6269840CC1_zpspdci59ib.jpg.html)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/0A625365-A2F6-46C4-9DE8-F2D8003D0808_zpsxqawqwc0.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/0A625365-A2F6-46C4-9DE8-F2D8003D0808_zpsxqawqwc0.jpg.html)

The start
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/F8D4A47D-8964-4E4C-9292-994D8618694C_zpslgzstmj9.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/F8D4A47D-8964-4E4C-9292-994D8618694C_zpslgzstmj9.jpg.html)

This was taken during the race by guy called Kerry
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/BB4B746C-F1E7-497F-B9CC-ED6DC4662825_zpsu4grjhdu.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/BB4B746C-F1E7-497F-B9CC-ED6DC4662825_zpsu4grjhdu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Pom17 on March 20, 2015, 08:49:21 am
Loving the pics and writing. Planning on doing my first race this year and I already have butterflies in my stomach thinking about it.

Respect to you for having a go at it at your age. Donít think there are a lot of guys over 40 with enough balls to attempt such a thing  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 20, 2015, 10:09:13 am
Thanks alot. You will be surprised, we were 18 riders in the masters class all 46 or older. At 52 I might be one of the more senior masters :biggrin: but I am loving every minute of it.
Once you have finished your 1st race you will ask yourself why you havent started years ago. I know I did.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 20, 2015, 12:50:33 pm
Hey, Gee S, that's me in your 2nd last pic - on the KLX  :biggrin:

I got a good start - about 4th off the line but was trying a manouvre on third when we came to that vlei - I, of course, went straight through the vlei and don't think I saw him again. No injuries though, just got a big fright - thought my race was over before it had started.

Luckily, I was back on track before the next rider got to me but it was hectic from then on - trying to keep my fellow golden oldies behind me.

Gonna have to do a similar thing to you regarding the dehydration, going out for drinks on the Friday doesn't help either .........  :peepwall:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 20, 2015, 02:14:59 pm
Here is one that shows you a little better
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/509B31FC-2C49-4E9D-80B9-19DDFB60346A_zpsdece69ma.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/509B31FC-2C49-4E9D-80B9-19DDFB60346A_zpsdece69ma.jpg.html)
After the race. Tired but happy!
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/9A8F73F4-4DFA-4D52-B941-571C042D5631_zpshnzjlsey.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/9A8F73F4-4DFA-4D52-B941-571C042D5631_zpshnzjlsey.jpg.html)

Going off the track in the dust gave me a good scare but did wonders in calming things down a bit.
We should meet up some time.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on March 20, 2015, 02:22:56 pm
Lovin' it! Keep the updates coming please  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 20, 2015, 02:43:56 pm
Here is one that shows you a little better
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/509B31FC-2C49-4E9D-80B9-19DDFB60346A_zpsdece69ma.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/509B31FC-2C49-4E9D-80B9-19DDFB60346A_zpsdece69ma.jpg.html)
After the race. Tired but happy!
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv339/Alfred800/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/9A8F73F4-4DFA-4D52-B941-571C042D5631_zpshnzjlsey.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/Alfred800/media/GOC%20Race%202%20Carletonville/9A8F73F4-4DFA-4D52-B941-571C042D5631_zpshnzjlsey.jpg.html)

Going off the track in the dust gave me a good scare but did wonders in calming things down a bit.
We should meet up some time.


We will - I'll track you down at the next one - if I can spot you in that sea of KTMs. I used to love catching and passing KTMs but there's so many and half of them are passing me, that my aim is just to be the first (only) kawa home.

BTW, how many ladies overtook you? I was beaten by that Cindy Porobic? lady  :'( :'( :'( :'( and she was quite a bit quicker than me, there was no way I can keep up with her - maybe when I grow up  >:D

But then I heard she clipped all the boys in all the races at last weeks racing at Syringa, so I felt OK again :thumleft:

Dwergie, when you gonna join us??????????
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Buff on March 20, 2015, 03:21:21 pm
Well done guys, good to see the Masters giving it stick out there  :thumleft:

I can just imagine the chaos of those mass starts, it must be hectic in that dust. Fortunately we're normally sent off in rows of 5, 1 minture apart and even that gets hair raising in the dust. I'm guessing but I'm sure being unsighted must be one of the greatest cause of accidents in Offroads. When it happens you're never sure if you should hold your speed and hope it clears or slow down and risk the oke behind you connecting you at speed  :-\

It's still a jol though, all the best for the season  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Pistol on March 20, 2015, 03:56:12 pm
Yes come Dwerg, I am going to swing spanners(beers) with the next one at Parys whenever that is :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on March 20, 2015, 03:57:30 pm
 
 Die mass starts van die vervloee Babsfontein GPs was ook woes.
Blazes, het jy dalk fotos of video clips daarvan ? ( of wie ookal )
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on March 21, 2015, 04:36:41 am
I'm still looking for a bike. I'll come spectace the next one thats close to pta if I don't have a bike yet
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 21, 2015, 09:11:51 am
Here are two video's to start with. How does one embed a video from a iPad or PC for that matter?
http://youtu.be/3czfsd632Z4 (http://youtu.be/3czfsd632Z4)
https://youtu.be/y2kEMER-BBI (https://youtu.be/y2kEMER-BBI)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 21, 2015, 09:43:18 am
Here is another one
https://youtu.be/xEzEvTpEs-w
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 21, 2015, 10:45:31 am
Another one
https://youtu.be/0Q5eixQFuew
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on March 21, 2015, 11:33:25 am
Great vids - those twisty bits in the trees were a bit sketchy, I nearly hit a few of those. And that white sand just hung in the air - couldn't see a thing.

I don't have a steering damper which is a bugger as I get tossed all over the place and nearly lost it on that chicken run, on every lap.

I've been told by an old racer that us poor folk should just tighten the head bolt to stiffen the steering. It will eventually damage the bearings but they're far cheaper than a damper. I haven't tried it but one of my mates did and he reckoned their was a big improvement but he suffered with sore wrists for a few days. I'm a bit wary of doing it but clipping those rocks at high speed is no joke ...........  :o :o :o

What thinks the WDs?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on March 21, 2015, 02:13:54 pm
Thanks. Riding in that thick dust scares me and I slowed right down. I would rather give up a few positions before hitting a lurker.

I read on a forum somewhere that one should put the bike on a stand with only a little weight on the front wheel and then tighten the head bearing until the steering just won't turn on its own but can still be turned easily by using one finger on the handle bar. I think I am going to give it a try for the next race.

Your mate might have tightened it a bit too much.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on April 06, 2015, 02:52:35 pm
So, I tightened the steering a bit, pretty much like you said and it seemed to make quite a bit of difference.

Took it out to Maraisburg today to test and it definitely tracks better over the rocks - no sore wrists or arms after 3 hours so I'll leave it like that for the race.

HOWEVER - I was belting along a sand road, showing off like a knob, powersliding the corners, when it went a bit pear-shaped and I was given a high-side off - flying lesson no. 45  :o :o :o

Fuck, I'm sore now - felt like I cracked my tailbone so I can't sit. I bit holes in my tongue and cheeks when my head bounced off the road and I've split my elbow open to the bone - while wearing armour!!!!

I'm still debating whether to go get stitched up or just leave it - trouble is, the next GOC is in 5 days  ::) ::)

In future, I'm gonna stick to the racing - it seems way safer than this weekend warrior shit.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 07, 2015, 02:47:12 pm
Jy vattie kakkie ne?
Glad you are reasonably OK and I hope there is nothing broken.

Re the stitches I might be wrong but it is already too late for that.  When I had my big off a couple of years ago the DR at casualties did not put stitches in to my hand because he suspected I might need an operation on my hand. The next morning when I got to the specialist he told me no opp needed but that he cannot put stitches in anymore as too much time have gone by. IIRC he said that it cannot be done after about 9 hours?.

The next GOC race have been moved to Bronkhorstspuit on the 18th so you have an extra 7 days to recover.

Below is a copy of the email I received.

Hi Guys
The race on the 11th of April in Carletonville will be moved to the 18th of April and will take place in Bronkhorstspruit.
The Junior and Senior will both be racing on the Saturday - Same day different routes.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Mooch on April 07, 2015, 04:27:25 pm
Nice updates guys! I need to join you for one or two of these.
I also have an old 300 EXC like that. 2001/2002 I think, but it still goes well and I love it. (Mine has a steering damper on it....)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on April 07, 2015, 06:59:19 pm
There we go, Mooch, you've got till the 18th to get your entry in  :thumleft:

Re the 18th, I don't get e-mails from GOC, so thanks for the heads-up Gee S

I couldn't handle it and went for the stitches today. I need to work with both arms so I got the elbow stitched. And I wanted to be mobile for Saturday but I'm really glad they moved it on 1 week.

FYI - the Thor impact rig I use has a waffle pattern inside the armour, behind the sponged padding, and this is what chopped my elbow open. I will never, ever, buy this rig again - it cannot save your elbows so has no more use than a chest protector - piece of shit. I cannot believe anyone would design protection in this way.

I used to use DMD but was talked out of replacing with the same thing by the salesman.

So, who's our supplier of DMD porducts on WD - and don't dare mention that Suzuki dealer in Honeydew  :xxbah: :xxbah: :xxbah:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 07, 2015, 08:10:54 pm
That is not good. Do you use the same rig that I am wearing in one of the picks above? Thor ballistick jacket IIRC
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on April 07, 2015, 09:09:43 pm
Yep, that's the one - sorry.

I've had it for about 2 years now, the shoulder pads on mine are black. You should be able to access the elbow and fore-arm protection from the outside.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 08, 2015, 10:07:36 am
I will take a look at mine and see if that ridge can be removed or modified. I have  fallen on my elbows quite a few times but all at slowspeeds in the rocks and they worked very well up to now. I hope mine are different ???
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 09, 2015, 09:02:50 am
Entries for the 3rd round is open.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 14, 2015, 09:31:27 am
Anybody here doing the thrird round?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on April 14, 2015, 03:50:27 pm
Me, of course - injured, but available for battle  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Pistol on April 15, 2015, 09:09:39 am
Where is it?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Gee S on April 15, 2015, 02:35:50 pm
It is near Brokhorstspruit.
it looks like I might have to sit this one out :(
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Pistol on April 15, 2015, 02:55:45 pm
 :thumleft: want to go to the Parys one
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on April 18, 2015, 08:32:49 pm
Well, this was one of the better races I've ever done. Certainly not in terms of my finishing place, whatever that might be, but what a track!!!!!!!!!!!  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

You missed a good one, Gee S .......................

I took cramp-ease? tablets since Friday - what a difference it made. I swear, when I was finished I felt like I could do it all again. Of course, now, 8 hours later, I'm a bit tired but I'm telling you, those things work. I stood for so much of the race today, I don't think I'll walk for a week  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Can't really telll you much about the track other than it was tight, twisty, muddy, sandy, grassy, hilly, rocky, open and scary-fast in some places. No lurkers but about 6 billion baby-head rocks. Nothing difficult but loads of stuff ready to kill you. Really cool, I'd do this one again.

No road crossings and, of course, not being in the northern cape, no bloody gates  >:D >:D
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on May 21, 2015, 07:18:13 am
Anyone riding this weekend? Do you guys pit on your own? With or without support?

Life has gotten into the way of my plans to race this year but I am still hoping to catch at least a couple of races this year
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on May 21, 2015, 07:35:51 am
This weekend's race has been postponed to the 4th July  :'(

Gives you plenty time to get sorted out - no excuses this time  :pot:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on May 21, 2015, 02:16:48 pm
This weekend's race has been postponed to the 4th July  :'(

Gives you plenty time to get sorted out - no excuses this time  :pot:

I still have plenty excuses left in the tank  :P

I have to spend a lot of cash before I can even pitch at the starting line so not sure when I'll be able to make a race. Have to replace kit, fix bike, get a trailer  etc etc
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on October 10, 2015, 09:03:41 am
Anybody else still doing the GOCs?

I've missed the last few races and see the next on is on the 17th Oct in Ventersdorp, the next race being on the 18th Oct. Is this for real?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on October 10, 2015, 09:57:52 am
These are the last GOC's, they will be no more for next year
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on October 10, 2015, 10:59:48 am
Yep, after this year's fiasco, I don't find that surprising.

And now, to have 2 races on the same weekend is the cherry on top  ::)
 
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: StuartC on October 10, 2015, 12:43:00 pm
Yep, after this year's fiasco, I don't find that surprising.

And now, to have 2 races on the same weekend is the cherry on top  ::)
 
Is the Sunday race not the Juniours and Mom's?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on October 10, 2015, 05:21:37 pm
F nose!!

We have round 6 on Sat and round 7 on Sun, according to EMS, 2 different races, with juniors on both days as well - AND both are regionals. Both in Vredefort. 15 senior bikes on saturday and 14 on sunday - massive field  :biggrin:

I'm not on their e-mailing list, which is why I'm asking here. It doesn't seem right.

There'll be a bigger masters class alone, at the farm jam the following weekend - I'm doing that for sure but might as well give the GOCs a miss.

Such a pity.

I've been toying withe idea of buying a 200 and doing the enduro thing - maybe it's time for another change :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Rolling Stone on October 11, 2015, 03:10:38 pm
On the MTB for the rest of this month and will then want to do a race or two Before the end of the year.
Need to make use of that expensive licence that we had to get for Amageza.

Keep us posted

Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on October 12, 2015, 09:43:45 pm
31st October 2015 - Farm Jam, Middleburg - no license required
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on October 13, 2015, 07:24:46 am
31st October 2015 - Farm Jam, Middleburg - no license required

Is there a site listing all the fun races? I've had a bi too much going on this year to get to racing but I need to start making a plan to get out more
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on October 13, 2015, 07:49:11 am
Not that I've found - keep an eye on Family Adventures as well. Although not a race, they have good outrides, similar to GOC and you can ride at whatever speed you want.

Next year, with the demise GOC, it may be worth looking at the regional races.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on November 24, 2015, 02:06:25 pm
Finally got around to buying a bike. Hopefully I can catch you guys at some events next year. I hope they don't start too early because my fitness is still..... well.... non existent and the December over indulgence is on the way as well
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on November 24, 2015, 02:32:58 pm
Dates are up on e-dirt. Starting the 13th of Feb  :eek:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on November 24, 2015, 06:18:23 pm
Look up Africa Off-Road racing

Similar to GOC but run under the WOMZA license - I will probably be doing this. It may be where all the GOC riders went ..........

GOC was a cock-up this year and if the same people are running it next year, it'll be a waste of time - they messed us around big time and their turnout was getting smaller by the day.
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on November 24, 2015, 07:20:32 pm
From FB:

"Introducing the GXCC, Gauteng Xross Country Club.
It is a honor to announce that the name of the GOC, Gauteng Off-road Club, has officially been change and therefore, as of today, the GOC will be known as the GXCC, Gauteng Xross Country Club.
The GXCC will be hosting the CLUB and NORTHERN REGIONAL championships for 2016."

"As I take over the official GOC FB page it is my absolute honor to play a part in growing and developing this unique industry.
We are hard at work preparing for the 2016 CLUB & NORTHERN REGIONAL series. We will keep everyone informed about all the progress and changes.
Best regards - Louwrens Mahoney"

(http://s5.postimg.org/68no70hyv/GOC_RACE_DATES.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Cracker on November 24, 2015, 08:54:06 pm
Minxy, you just made my day - Mahoney is a busy-bee - just what's needed  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: gser on November 24, 2015, 10:02:40 pm
This is going to be good !
Minxy, this is your dream !
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on November 25, 2015, 11:19:20 am
This is going to be good !
Minxy, this is your dream !

Can't wait! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on November 25, 2015, 11:22:47 am
This is going to be good !
Minxy, this is your dream !

Can't wait! ;D ;D ;D

Are you going to ride the BMW?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on November 25, 2015, 01:35:33 pm
This is going to be good !
Minxy, this is your dream !

Can't wait! ;D ;D ;D

Are you going to ride the BMW?

Yes, they took the rally kit off last week. Took it for a test ride at DeWildt last weekend. Oil issue it had seems to be ok now. I'll probably ride around with extra oil in my backpack though since I got a phobia now :P Just a bit of work on the suspension and I think the BMW will be good for next year.
Which bike are you going to be on Dwerg?
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Dwerg on November 25, 2015, 01:50:42 pm
Yes, they took the rally kit off last week. Took it for a test ride at DeWildt last weekend. Oil issue it had seems to be ok now. I'll probably ride around with extra oil in my backpack though since I got a phobia now :P Just a bit of work on the suspension and I think the BMW will be good for next year.
Which bike are you going to be on Dwerg?

Nice glad it's sorted! I'll be riding a KTM 250 smoker  ;D

I seriously need to do some rides. You are probably way ahead of me by now with all the riding you guys have been doing. I'll get the bike next week but I'll probably only be able to ride it next year. At best maybe squeeze in one ride this year
Title: Re: 2015 GOC
Post by: Minxy on November 25, 2015, 06:23:25 pm
Yes, they took the rally kit off last week. Took it for a test ride at DeWildt last weekend. Oil issue it had seems to be ok now. I'll probably ride around with extra oil in my backpack though since I got a phobia now :P Just a bit of work on the suspension and I think the BMW will be good for next year.
Which bike are you going to be on Dwerg?

Nice glad it's sorted! I'll be riding a KTM 250 smoker  ;D

I seriously need to do some rides. You are probably way ahead of me by now with all the riding you guys have been doing. I'll get the bike next week but I'll probably only be able to ride it next year. At best maybe squeeze in one ride this year

Hahaha nah!!! I have no idea what to expect, and I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing :P Still looking forward to it though! :P