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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => BMW 1200 LC => Topic started by: Sommer Ek on January 05, 2015, 11:54:26 pm

Title: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Sommer Ek on January 05, 2015, 11:54:26 pm
Het tans Tourance Next op maar oorweeg A3's.
2de Agterband en eerste voorband is besig om reg te maak vir pensioen. Tourance het my goed behandel maar indien ek beter myle kan kry waarom nie verander nie. Ek weet nie of ek 10k op 'n agterband gaan kry nie, sal nog moet sien.

90% van die tyd met pillion, en weer daarvan 70% vol gelaai.
Ry soms grondpad indien dit deel van die roete is, maar probeer vermy sand en beslis nie modder nie.
Gemiddelde Spoed: 10-15% vinniger as die verkeer. Indien die pad oop is dan gaan dit bietjie vinniger. Kort en lank is ek hou nie daarvan om tussen 'n klomp karre te wees nie, so ek ry dat ek voor kom.
Ek is nie 'n Pegskraper in die draaie nie.

Op ander forums word dit genoem dat die A3's saam sing op die pad. (Soos Karoo3) As daar gesing word dan sing ek self.
Dit blyk te wees dat al die GS'e nou uitkom met A3's. Dalk het Mitchelin 'n goedkoper kontrak as Metzeler ek weet nie.

Indien daar iemand is wat kennis van beide het sal ek sy of haar insette waardeer.




Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: TheBear on January 07, 2015, 06:12:09 pm
Die A3's sing omtrent netso vrolik as die Nexts.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Pistonpete on January 07, 2015, 06:16:39 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: BMWPE on January 07, 2015, 06:19:37 pm
I ride with Michelin 3
don't hear no singing  ;D
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Cobus G on January 08, 2015, 09:55:22 am
I have now done 8400km on my Anakee 3's that came with my 2014 LCA, no issues, I even went up Sani Pass with them(not advisable). They still have some life left, but due to the current shortage of tyres, I grabbed a set of Tourance next from Bavaria when they came in yesterday....will see how these compare to the Anakees, but in general I was very satisfied with them.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Sommer Ek on January 08, 2015, 11:42:53 pm
Thaks for the feedback Cobus will you please keep us up to date.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Draadwerk on January 09, 2015, 06:19:15 am
I had A3 on my LC when it came out. Was a fine tyre.
Then replaced it with Conti Trail Attack 2, and it is also a fine tyre. I can't really notice any difference between the two. They are equally good to me.

From a price perspective, I do think A3 is a little bit cheaper though... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: 1190 on January 09, 2015, 07:05:35 am
Anakee 3 = 4000 km Conti Attack 2 = 7500km. I want to try a 180/55/17 road tyre the guys on the american forums say there work fine as Im am not doing any off road riding for a while, and want to see how they handle and I think they are quite a bit cheaper.....
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Cobus G on January 09, 2015, 07:16:24 am
Anakee 3 = 4000 km Conti Attack 2 = 7500km. I want to try a 180/55/17 road tyre the guys on the american forums say there work fine as Im am not doing any off road riding for a while, and want to see how they handle and I think they are quite a bit cheaper.....

Wow 1190, must be different riding style, I do not regard myself an expert rider by a long shot, but I do like to twist that throttle, and I ride 90% on road, how did you only manage 4000 km on the Anakee 3's?
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Malmoer on January 09, 2015, 07:22:15 am
When i bought my f800 the rear A3 had about 300k on it. It has to date done about 11000km. I have ridden everything from rock, gravel and even sand. There are better tyre out there for my kind of riding but the A3 have served me well. For tar riding they are excellent (My opinion due to a lack of comparison), on gravel they slide a bit easier but i am not complaining.
IMO fit them you won't be dissipointed
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Cobus G on January 09, 2015, 07:22:34 am
Thaks for the feedback Cobus will you please keep us up to date.

Sommer ek, Bavaria threw me a curve ball yesterday, they had a "slight snafu" with the tyre order, they did not have a Tourance front tyre for me...soooo, they now offered me a brand new set of Continental Trail Attack 2's....the reviews look good, but now I have to ask the guys here again for a comparison?
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: NeelsK on January 09, 2015, 03:46:58 pm
I had the TAs on my GSA 2010.  Really awesome road tyre but a bit iffy on dirt. Mileage was good ... about 18k on a rear.  Having said that, I liked the TKC80s on the 2010 GSA but I really don't like them much on the LC.  ???
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: 1190 on January 10, 2015, 06:54:16 am
Anakee 3 = 4000 km Conti Attack 2 = 7500km. I want to try a 180/55/17 road tyre the guys on the american forums say there work fine as Im am not doing any off road riding for a while, and want to see how they handle and I think they are quite a bit cheaper.....

Wow 1190, must be different riding style, I do not regard myself an expert rider by a long shot, but I do like to twist that throttle, and I ride 90% on road, how did you only manage 4000 km on the Anakee 3's?

We do a ride from Port St Johns to Kei Mouth every year and the roads were very bad, lots of sharp rocks and we must have had about 10 punctures in the the the group, I think that's what destroyed the Anakee 3, I also had a stone lodged in the anakee, that I had to use 2 plugs to seal  :lol8:
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: 1190 on January 10, 2015, 06:59:37 am
Thaks for the feedback Cobus will you please keep us up to date.

Sommer ek, Bavaria threw me a curve ball yesterday, they had a "slight snafu" with the tyre order, they did not have a Tourance front tyre for me...soooo, they now offered me a brand new set of Continental Trail Attack 2's....the reviews look good, but now I have to ask the guys here again for a comparison?

My LC came out with them on, and they came out on my 1190, best tyre you can get if your ride more tar than gravel, but they are quite expensive and as they wear down you tend to get punctures on the gravel. I still have my original one on the front and have done 13000km.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: DaveT on January 11, 2015, 04:35:02 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....

Available for the LC yet? If so where and how much?
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Draadwerk on January 11, 2015, 06:00:06 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....

Available for the LC yet? If so where and how much?

No Mitas for LC unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Cobus G on January 26, 2015, 02:44:12 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....

Available for the LC yet? If so where and how much?

No Mitas for LC unfortunately.

Only in April according to the boys from Clarens :ricky:
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Cobus G on January 26, 2015, 02:47:00 pm
Thaks for the feedback Cobus will you please keep us up to date.

Quick feedback on Conti Trail Attack 2s, did some riding this weekend, on tar,the tyre feels like it corners better than Anakee 3's, but I am really no expert, I just felt easier to maintain the bike around corners. Did a bit of gravel, and the tyre felt more slippery than Anakee's, but will have to give it more riding time to confirm this.
Title: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Draadwerk on January 26, 2015, 03:01:38 pm
Anakee and trail attack both felt equally bad to me on gravel. On tar trail attack is definitely better as far as I am concerned.

When I really want to do more gravel I know for a fact that I must replace my trail attacks before I attempt this again.

IMHO not one of these tyres inspire confidence on gravel. TKC 80 or maybe Karoo 3 is the only option, or the new Pirelli Scorpion Rally range
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Beebop on January 26, 2015, 03:02:24 pm
The issue with trying new tyres, is that you've just come off a set of worn ones, so the
new ones generally feel like they a huge improvement. I was very weary when I had to
change from Anakee2's to 3's, but what a great tyre the 3 has turned out to be.

Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: DaveT on January 26, 2015, 07:50:34 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....

Available for the LC yet? If so where and how much?

No Mitas for LC unfortunately.

Ok dan gaan ek 'n bietjie bal hang tot April, want dis 'n lekker band daai. Sal hom maar net eers warm nurse dat hy nie kraak nie.

Only in April according to the boys from Clarens :ricky:
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Frannarossi on January 27, 2015, 08:15:28 am
I did some gravel last weekend with the Anakee 3's.I'm very impressed!Rear wheel spins a lot thought but the front stuck like glue through rocks,sandy patches etc...I think I'll keep them on the bike until they're wasted and put Karoo 3's on then...
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: TCS on January 27, 2015, 08:25:18 am
I have decided to put a 150R/110F combo E07's on my LC, one word GREAT off road genuine GREAT.....Really not bad on road, i must still do some tar twisties but i don't think that's what they are there for ...
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: DaveT on April 24, 2015, 03:41:01 pm
Don't forget the Mitas E08's....

Available for the LC yet? If so where and how much?

No Mitas for LC unfortunately.

Only in April according to the boys from Clarens :ricky:

Its April. Where and how much :peepwall:
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: plaky on April 28, 2015, 11:15:39 am
I have decided to put a 150R/110F combo E07's on my LC, one word GREAT off road genuine GREAT.....Really not bad on road, i must still do some tar twisties but i don't think that's what they are there for ...

TCS have you put the old spec size tyres on your LC rims? Do they fit? It will be much cheaper to do this as the cost if the 150 is cheaper than the 170. I am not sure the extra 20mm make that much of a difference in the riding that I do, mostly commuting and a trip once every 2 months! Any comments?
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: Moondog on April 28, 2015, 02:54:51 pm
20mm is likely to make a significant difference to how the tyre wears - it should heat up a lot more and therefor wear faster, and then as it wears, it is likely to square off a lot. It will be interesting to see what happens in practice.
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: plaky on April 29, 2015, 03:19:17 pm
Got prices for back tyres yesterday from Trac Mac in Bellville, Anakee 3'S R2800 less my discount, eish!! Metzler Tourance ESP R2100 less my discount, guess what I am going to buy! How can there be such a difference between Metzler and Michelin! I commute every day and do the odd weekend ride and one 3 to 5 day trip per year!
Title: Re: Tourance Next of Anakee 3
Post by: El Lobo on April 29, 2015, 03:47:35 pm
What a huge disappointment to have discovered (quite a while ago already) that the Anakee 2 is no longer available (at least not in South Africa).

Granted I only did two heavily loaded trips, respectively 7500 km and 2000 km, with mine; the rest being solo or with a pillion, but I was hugely impressed. I replaced them with Heidenau Scout K60's at 20 000 km! Yes, twenty thousand km. The late Lodie de Jager swore by them (He did two trans - Africa trips and one 19 000 km trip through Siberia on Anakee 2's. 

The Heidenau's are good tyres (especially on gravel), but I can see that I'll be very fortunate should I get 15 000 km on the back. The Anakee 3 is far more tar orientated (80% tar 20% gravel) than its predecessor and I personally bewail the departure of the Anakee 2. You see, I do the occasional gravel road (love the Southern Cape gravel roads!), but spend most of my riding time doing long distances on tar. So, apart from wanting to feel safe in the wet, I'm also keen on getting good mileage on a tyre.

My next set of tyres? I'm not sure. After the Anakee 2 tyres, I would have liked to fit the Mitas E 07, but, as I've had my Tiger 800 XC rims converted to tubeless (Cytech) with a life time warrantee on workmanship, I couldn't fit a Mitas E 07 as a front tyre. The E 07's do not come as tubeless for the 90/90/21.