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Title: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: Skipskop on February 11, 2015, 06:47:05 am
 ;)I bought this as a play-trails-come project DS bike.
Can the DRZ experts identify this DRZ`s model for me please .
All I have is the pic and the owner says 2000 model ?
And what to check for when buying this old model.
Apparently the starter clutch is on its way out, cost to repair that ?
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Post by: GregOnGS on February 11, 2015, 07:13:19 am
No pic bud.
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Post by: Skipskop on February 11, 2015, 07:17:14 am
Daars hy nou
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Post by: LouisXander on February 11, 2015, 10:07:32 am
Het hy smog kak aan die linkerkant van die motor as jy op hom sit? Net onder die radiators? Dan is dit n "S" Staal tank is ook teken van n "S" model.

As hy n flatslide FCR carb het is hy n "E"
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Post by: Skipskop on February 11, 2015, 10:28:09 am
Ek  kan sÍ nie want ekt hom nogie by my nie.sal maar moet wag vir die bike om hier by my aan te kom en sien wat ek gekoop het :-0
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Post by: pielas on February 12, 2015, 08:02:17 am
Have the seller sent you a copy of registration papers? Check the VIN #
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Post by: Skipskop on February 12, 2015, 09:32:57 am
I will have to wait till the bike is here , No papers , its a plaasbike .
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 02:21:29 pm
So the bike has arrived in Witbank and I am going to fetch it early next month  :ricky:
Got more pics now and it is the perfect project DRZ. for me. Looking forward to start the project.
 This was apparently a farm bike, and that to me is not a bad thing, because it means that it hasn't been riding long distance high speeds.
What do you think ?
Vin=JS1BF111100104660.  And it has the plastic tank.
Can we get the year model off the VIN ?
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Post by: Draadwerk on February 14, 2015, 02:24:13 pm
Hy lyk nie so mooi soos op die eerste foto nie. Kort bietjie werk lyk dit my?
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Post by: chopperpilot on February 14, 2015, 02:53:51 pm
Starter clutch vir DR 650 SE, R 2 000-00, so 2 jaar gelede. Sou duurder gewees het om van Kientech in te voer, as direk van Suzuki SA.


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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 03:01:31 pm
I will be looking for parts from now on ,if you have any you want to part with, please pm me.
From what I can see for now is plastics, shock boots and whatever you can see from the pics.
I will start the bike first to listen to the engine as to decide how far I am going to strip the engine down.
My thoughts where to at least do a top, piston and, or rings and cylinder head overhaul, but will see  as I go along.
Then strip-down the frame and all moving part for sandblasting and painting or powder coating.
The engine I need advice on what to do, bead-blast and leave it like that or clean and paint or polish the whole engine up ?
Any advise and ideas will be welcome .
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 03:05:20 pm
Hy lyk nie so mooi soos op die eerste foto nie. Kort bietjie werk lyk dit my?

Ja die idee was maar om hom heeltemal te herbou , ek is tevrede .

Starter clutch vir DR 650 SE, R 2 000-00, so 2 jaar gelede. Sou duurder gewees het om van Kientech in te voer, as direk van Suzuki SA.


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Dankie, ek sal maar sien as die bike by my uitkom wat by die starter angaan.
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Post by: Draadwerk on February 14, 2015, 03:07:50 pm
Hy lyk nie so mooi soos op die eerste foto nie. Kort bietjie werk lyk dit my?

Ja die idee was maar om hom heeltemal te herbou , ek is tevrede .

Starter clutch vir DR 650 SE, R 2 000-00, so 2 jaar gelede. Sou duurder gewees het om van Kientech in te voer, as direk van Suzuki SA.


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Dankie, ek sal maar sien as die bike by my uitkom wat by die starter angaan.

Dan is ek ook happy. Weereens baie baie geluk!!!

Jy kan seker nie meer wag om hom te ry nie?
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 03:23:23 pm
Hy lyk nie so mooi soos op die eerste foto nie. Kort bietjie werk lyk dit my?

Ja die idee was maar om hom heeltemal te herbou , ek is tevrede .

Starter clutch vir DR 650 SE, R 2 000-00, so 2 jaar gelede. Sou duurder gewees het om van Kientech in te voer, as direk van Suzuki SA.


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Dankie, ek sal maar sien as die bike by my uitkom wat by die starter angaan.

Dan is ek ook happy. Weereens baie baie geluk!!!

Jy kan seker nie meer wag om hom te ry nie?

Ja ek dink ek moet eers goed met hom leer whielie met hom voor ek hom mooi maak ;-)
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Post by: A2J on February 14, 2015, 03:39:53 pm
Ja. Hulle moet gewheelie word. Lekker.
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 04:55:17 pm
My skoonseun het die bike bietjie gery en hy se hy loop goed !
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Post by: Sprocketbek on February 14, 2015, 05:41:01 pm
Hoe ry mens 'n bike met 'n gear lever wat so hoog sit?  ???

Op die oog af lyk alles herstelbaar  :thumleft:
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 05:58:02 pm
Sjoe ek sien dit ook nou dat jy dit noem. Seker 'n ou met groot voete wat hom so op gebuig het om sy voet onder die gearlever te kon inkry. Sal nie werk met my crocks nie 😆
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Post by: LouisXander on February 14, 2015, 06:26:01 pm
Nee man, daai was n endurobike gewees en die gearlever was gelig vir off road boots.

Ek het so 2 jaar terug n drz400 gesoek en toe agter gekom daar was baie enduro bikes beskikbaar wat nie op die pad was nie.

Wat se sy carb? Keihin FCR? Dan het jy die e model. Die S is ingevoer as padwaardig en die E as enduro, n paar E's is toe padwaardig gemaak.

Die spesifieke een was lank te koop, jy het hom seker vir n bargain gekry?
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Post by: Skipskop on February 14, 2015, 09:48:59 pm
Ja die prys was reg en hy is nie opi pad nie. Is net wat ek gesoek het . Sal nie n klomp geld kos om hom bietjie op te dolly nie .
 Sal more laat kyk watter carb dit is. Watter carb is die beter een ?
En is hierdie die een met die dikker head gasket, m.a.w. minder gestresde engine?
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Post by: Grumpleton on February 23, 2015, 05:13:52 pm
That is newer than a 2000 as it does not have the timing plug on the right hand side of the motor. and by the way that is a E model, check that the radiators arenít blocked as the radiator reservoir is brown, and make sure that there is no metal in the oil as then it gets expensive, I had to rebuild a complete motor because a bearing cage broke and put metal through the oil pumps .and get parts from Thumper talkhttps://www.thumpertalk.com/shop/Popular/Suzuki-DR-Z-400-c2447/?utm_source=Store&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=DRZ-400+Customers (https://www.thumpertalk.com/shop/Popular/Suzuki-DR-Z-400-c2447/?utm_source=Store&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=DRZ-400+Customers) much cheaper than getting here and the arrive within 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Identify the model-Pic added
Post by: Skipskop on February 23, 2015, 05:38:14 pm
Thanks for the link and the info G. I will be bringing the bike home end of next week. Then the first thing will be to start, run and listen for noises. Then look at the oil for any signs of metal. . If in doupt I will do a strip down and do the preventative maintenance engine overhaul of all moving parts. But I will have to pick the brains of you guys that know these Suzukies.
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Post by: Grumpleton on February 25, 2015, 10:00:18 pm
Remember all DRZ motors are fairly noisy . check oils and remove the sive from the bottom of the oil tank , at the banjo bolt and check for metal there. but if there is no metal and no water resedue in the oil, flush the radiator , change the oil filter ( remember to put the O-ring in behind the filter) put in castrol activo and the bike will be a great thing to play with.

Spend some time with it and it can look like this.

(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/Grant_Embleton/Phonepics525.jpg)
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Post by: Skipskop on February 25, 2015, 10:20:26 pm
Jeez your DRZ looks good. I wil do the oil Check thing. Somehow I think the farm bikes don't work as hard as the road bikes do. Hoping for a sweet motor 😊
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: lecap on March 02, 2015, 04:31:16 pm
I edited the header for clarity :)
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Post by: Skipskop on March 02, 2015, 10:33:24 pm
Thanks Lecap  :thumleft:
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Post by: sidetrack on March 03, 2015, 12:57:29 pm
How do you manage to take chunks out of the seat ? No seriously ! See there is still some smog stuff on the side of the carb you can remove.
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: Skipskop on March 09, 2015, 01:23:39 pm
How do you manage to take chunks out of the seat ? No seriously ! See there is still some smog stuff on the side of the carb you can remove.

You must remember this was a plaasbike, maybe a goat took a bite to taste, goats are known to eat your clothes off the washing lines.  :biggrin:
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Post by: Skipskop on March 09, 2015, 02:10:13 pm
I am in Witbank from J-Bay to collect my new old DRZ 400 . I run the bike and took it around the block a couple of times and the motor runs very sweet, quiet with no noises . So I am very happy with the  purchase  . I need to buy some goodies like front shock covers, plastics, aftrmarket indicators .viper or similar speedo meter etc . I am in Witbank for a couple of days and was hoping you DRZ fans could point me in the0 right direction around  the Jhb or Pretoria area to spend some money. I also need a bash plate,  anybody know where to get one ?
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Post by: Skipskop on March 09, 2015, 02:16:30 pm
Grumpleton do you make those front windscreens to sell. I would like to get one ;-))
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Post by: Skipskop on March 09, 2015, 02:23:46 pm
And can someone give me a link where I can check the jear model off the VIN JS1BF111100104660number please
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Post by: Grumpleton on March 09, 2015, 07:53:38 pm
Grumpleton do you make those front windscreens to sell. I would like to get one ;-))

no  this was made by MTBiker on the forum ,we make this one (http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh494/Grant_Embleton/IMG_1005.jpg)
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: Skipskop on March 22, 2015, 12:17:21 pm
Done a bit of work, only elbow gries .
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Post by: Skipskop on March 22, 2015, 12:21:50 pm
😊
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Post by: LouisXander on March 22, 2015, 01:44:57 pm
Nice, and the motor? Hows it going?
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Post by: Skipskop on March 22, 2015, 05:34:15 pm
The motor runs very smooth and quiet. A sign of oil in the radiator, I suppose it's a seal  on the water pump ? Wht does the DRZ 400  experts say
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: LouisXander on March 22, 2015, 07:48:39 pm
That is serious, and the water pump packing up. Just go and read on the DRz thread. Think Niva's bike had a pump failure, so just make sure.

nifty little scoots these 400's
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Post by: sidetrack on March 23, 2015, 07:58:28 am
The motor runs very smooth and quiet. A sign of oil in the radiator, I suppose it's a seal  on the water pump ? Wht does the DRZ 400  experts say
Damn I think it could rather be the head gasket  ??? Usually if the waterpump seal goes coolant will drip out the drain hole on the outside. There are good write ups on Thumpertalk to fix this. I would test the head gasket first.
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Post by: N[]vA on March 23, 2015, 01:27:05 pm
That is serious, and the water pump packing up. Just go and read on the DRz thread. Think Niva's bike had a pump failure, so just make sure.

nifty little scoots these 400's
Have had a oil pump failure as a result of a engine failure... a a result of a bad mechanic

Oil in the radiator can only be a few things, first off is it thick and black or is it milky white?
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: Skipskop on March 23, 2015, 04:47:55 pm
The water has very little white  oil floating on top. Just enough oil to dirty my finger. The water tank is also rusty colour dirty.
Title: Re: DRZ400: Identify the year model - Pic added
Post by: lecap on March 24, 2015, 10:47:55 am
The water has very little white  oil floating on top. Just enough oil to dirty my finger. The water tank is also rusty colour dirty.
Very little white stuff floating on top: First drain, flush and fill. See if it comes back.
Reservoir with dirty "rusty" deposits: Caused by poor or no maintenance. Drain, clean thoroughly, fill. Best way to clean a filthy reservoir is to throw in a handful of M5 nuts and a bit of Prepsol and shake until the inside is clean, then shake nuts out and rinse thoroughly.
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Post by: Skipskop on March 24, 2015, 04:03:07 pm
Thanks. I just did all that and checked the welchplugs under the cams. No sign of water in the oil either. Drained the oil and all looks nice an clean  with no grid on the magnetic drain plug. Now fill the water, ride and check if the oil in the water is back. If ok then put antifreeze and hope she is ready to go. Baviaans side entry is waiting for us.
 Please tell me what oil and how much it takes, and can I run on 100% antifreeze and what type ?
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Post by: Grumpleton on March 24, 2015, 08:09:16 pm
Oil, Castrol Activo 1, 7 L and 50 50 mix good antifreez, , I had a welsh plug go, there is a Hundai welsh plug that fits the bike if it does go, also the seal behind the water pump does pack up some times, so keep an eye on it. we will also be in the Baviaans at the end of April
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Post by: Skipskop on March 24, 2015, 11:33:58 pm
I took the bike for a little ride,about 25 minutes. Water looks good and I drained it again, now filled with the antifreeze added. New oil with the old filter. Now I  have to give it a good run so she can show her real colours. Busy building a tail rack for a light tailbacks.
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Post by: Skipskop on March 24, 2015, 11:39:27 pm
I must check With the PE guys when the Baviaans side entry is happening , I think it's around the 6th Apr.
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Post by: lecap on March 25, 2015, 08:35:41 am
I took the bike for a little ride,about 25 minutes. Water looks good and I drained it again, now filled with the antifreeze added. New oil with the old filter. Now I  have to give it a good run so she can show her real colours. Busy building a tail rack for a light tailbacks.

You should not run the engine on pure water at all, not even for a short time. You create a VERY aggressive environment even if you use demineralised water.
You should also not run an engine on pure ethylene glycol (unless it's designed to be run on it). The heat capacity of ethylene glycol is much lower that that of water. Combined with its higher boiling point and an unchanged coolant flow rate it will reduce the efficiency of the cooling system and allow the engine to run excessively hot without giving you the typical warning signs of an overheating engine (the coolant will not boil). The first sign of something being wrong will be a heat seizure :(

Japanese liquid cooled bike engines are supposed to run on 33% to 50% ethylene glycol mixes. Less  than 25% does not provide good corrosion protection. More than 50% see above.
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Post by: Skipskop on March 27, 2015, 06:54:55 pm
Got busy with the wedding machine and look what came out when I finished 😊
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Post by: LouisXander on March 27, 2015, 06:59:11 pm
Jyt talent my china!!!
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Post by: Skipskop on March 29, 2015, 11:24:42 am
 :thumleft: Is daar enige iemand wat 'n standaard exzhorts het wat hy wil verkoop. Ek't 'n flenter pyp saam my DRZ gekry. Die afgehaal en so free flow pyp wat ek by iemand gekry het gemaak pas, die pyp raas teveel na my sin.
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Post by: Skipskop on March 29, 2015, 11:26:13 am
O ja, waar kan ek die wheelbearing nommers kry, iemand hier wat kan help asseblief.