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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 12:48:06 pm

Title: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 12:48:06 pm
So i went to look at the new BMW F800GS... and i'm going to say it from my unbiased point of view......  ;D

The bike looks very impressive, i see lots of potential. I must say BMW is definitely evolving. The bike really looks like a work of art.

Now the negative points....

The bike looks bare, naked..... meaning you're going to have to spend a fortune on the bike to make it a proper offroad tourer. No protection, wind protection looks poor, etc.

IMHO BMW is really selling half a german bike at the price of a full Japanese bike...  :-[










Ps: Forgot to mention..... i'll rather have a KTM  ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: brettp on April 19, 2008, 12:55:44 pm
Since being in the market for a new bike after the sale of the KTM, I also took a good look at the 800GS. I wasnt overly impressed with the bike and have to agree thjat its not quiet up to scratch in terms of being used as a tourer DS type bike.

Again, the target market is clearly defined and I guess my needs dont match up to the bike in question.

For the price of a new fully kitted 800, you can get an excellent 1200 secondhand.

Its a no brainer IMHO.....
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Welsh on April 19, 2008, 01:02:35 pm
I don,t have a HO but, I could probably find a SH HP2 for the priceof a fully kitted 800 :o :o
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 01:30:52 pm
I don,t have a HO but, I could probably find a SH HP2 for the priceof a fully kitted 800 :o :o

Now we're talking ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Hermanator on April 19, 2008, 01:53:17 pm
Hey Cappie,

You should not look through the keyhole of temping minxes. Open the door, take her by the hair and when done, give a full on report.  :D

To be honest, and this is not because I'm in the BMW camp, I'm a big fan of the new 800. It's incredibly light and fantastically agile. When I rode it, i felt I could wrap up my favourite things from the KTM 990, the VStrom and Dakar. Engine, ability, and suitability to needs. Also, should I decide to take a more hard line view of off-roading, I can dress the bike to a manner which suits that style.

So, IMHO, it's a great canvass from which to start.

My use, should I ever go offroad again, would be a bike which can tour dirt roads as well as it can tar. I wouldn't be looking to ride technical stuff and for this, I believe the 800GS is perect as it comes out of the box.

Then again, like the VStrom, I bought it naked and then added the crash bars and PSP bashplate and that made the bike infinitely more capable off-road.

I'll bet though, there's no other bike company though that gives you a handle bar mounted "Specimen" container for those times in your life....  :o :D

You do have to ride it though, you'll be blown away, especially when the engine goes past 6000rpm, oooooohhh, what a sweet place!

L
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Trailrider on April 19, 2008, 02:17:11 pm
Well, to me seemed like a "softer" DS bike too. Of course me and Herm could not come from more different places i.t.o. what we're looking for in a bike. DS bikes are by definition a compromise, so you don't really get bad DS bikes, just some that don't suit your style. Decide WHAT you want to do and buy the DS bike that does that best.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: GreenMamba1974 on April 19, 2008, 02:59:48 pm
cappie,

glad you brought this up.  i was in the garden route on business this week and went to bmw george on thursday afternoon for a look see.

the 800 is pretty.  it is quite a tall bike and i have to agree with you, it does feel naked/sparse.  some bikes, you feel like you are sitting 'in' the saddle, the bmw makes you feel like you are sitting on top of the saddle/bike.  don't know if that made sense at all.  you feel high up on the bike in other words.
so wind protection must be interesting.  pity they did not have a demo bike available.

right next to the 800 on the showroom floor they had the new 650 (with the 800cc engine)
to me the new 650 is the 'better' ds bike.  lower, easier to mount, feels like you are sitting 'in' the saddle, more part of the bike feel to it.  shitty small screen, can't be good for much, would definitely get a better screen to use for dualsporting.

me old man is buying a bike, the new bmw 650 seems like a good one to recommend.  the 800 looks good, but i can honestly say after all the hype the bike generated i wasn't blown away after seeing one in the flesh.  it is just another nice bike from bmw, they build good bikes, nuff said.

btw... according the the good looking sales lass at bmw it is selling for 99k
that is 15k more than first rumoured.  seems all the interest in the bike may have got the bmw boys rubbing their palms together me thinks!  >:(

south africans are by nature greedy fuckheads, screw you bmw, that bike is nice, i don't see 100,000 south african rands worth though!







Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 03:07:04 pm
Mamba, add another R20k for all the BMW crash tech and creature comforts. ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Bollocks on April 19, 2008, 03:10:42 pm
The same European bike costs the equivalent of 134 000 "South African Rands" here in Europe.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 03:11:59 pm
I feel BMW marketing is so good that the whole idea of the 800GS got me so excited and then when i first saw it i went "Jeeeezzzz is this it...." *Captain sighs with dissapointment*  :-[
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 03:13:21 pm
The same European bike costs the equivalent of 134 000 "South African Rands" here in Europe.


 :o
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Bollocks on April 19, 2008, 03:15:13 pm
I feel BMW marketing is so good that the whole idea of the 800GS got me so excited and then when i first saw it i went "Jeeeezzzz is this it...." *Captain sighs with dissapointment*  :-[

I have to agree, and now the 990 Adv looks top-of-the-pops again.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 03:18:42 pm
I feel BMW marketing is so good that the whole idea of the 800GS got me so excited and then when i first saw it i went "Jeeeezzzz is this it...." *Captain sighs with dissapointment*  :-[

I have to agree, and now the 990 Adv looks top-of-the-pops again.

Hijack..... you've got the funniest avatar pic.... :laughing4:
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 19, 2008, 03:23:01 pm
Go Orange Captain, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 03:24:04 pm
Go Orange Captain, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

Kannie bekostig nie. My budget is R60k
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Bollocks on April 19, 2008, 03:25:56 pm
I feel BMW marketing is so good that the whole idea of the 800GS got me so excited and then when i first saw it i went "Jeeeezzzz is this it...." *Captain sighs with dissapointment*  :-[

I have to agree, and now the 990 Adv looks top-of-the-pops again.

Hijack..... you've got the funniest avatar pic.... :laughing4:
The tax man always makes me feel like that poor panther
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: GreenMamba1974 on April 19, 2008, 03:40:07 pm
The same European bike costs the equivalent of 134 000 "South African Rands" here in Europe.


 :o

 :)    ???    :o    >:(    :(    :'(   


Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Bollocks on April 19, 2008, 04:04:24 pm
The same European bike costs the equivalent of 134 000 "South African Rands" here in Europe.


 :o

 :)    ???    :o    >:(    :(    :'(   

Ok, so I shouldn't measure all of Europe by the prices in Sweden. In Germany they only cost R118 000 at todays exchange rate (which is not as bad as it was a month or two ago)


Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Beagle Boy on April 19, 2008, 04:15:26 pm
A bit emotional there GM74  ;D

Cappie what happened to the V-Strom?

I'm only going to have the opportunity to ride the 800 on the 7th May ........ for convenience sake, but I agree ones not getting much for what you're coughing up. I know of a couple of chaps that got caught up on the hipe around the 800 all of them own 1200's ...... guess what ..... they all still own 1200's.

2nd hand 1200 with the extra's is a far better option.

On your budget, one of the Japanese V's is a far better buy. ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: sidetrack on April 19, 2008, 04:25:41 pm
TENERE, sure it will be at least R20 000 to R25 000 cheaper. Not in the same class but a better buy IMHO.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 19, 2008, 04:55:31 pm
A bit emotional there GM74  ;D

Cappie what happened to the V-Strom?

I'm only going to have the opportunity to ride the 800 on the 7th May ........ for convenience sake, but I agree ones not getting much for what you're coughing up. I know of a couple of chaps that got caught up on the hipe around the 800 all of them own 1200's ...... guess what ..... they all still own 1200's.

2nd hand 1200 with the extra's is a far better option.

On your budget, one of the Japanese V's is a far better buy. ;)

I'm still getting a Strom ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 19, 2008, 05:06:01 pm
But when?  >:D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: blazes on April 19, 2008, 06:16:24 pm
TENERE, sure it will be at least R20 000 to R25 000 cheaper. Not in the same class but a better buy IMHO.
Plus one ;) I do not think that the new GS 800 is for me. We all have different riding styles and needs. ( horses for courses.) Dont fool yourself that the bike is light ::) Drop it a few times and pick it up and then we talk another story. I think Yummy has got as close to what i need for my next bike, Just price may be a issue.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: sidetrack on April 19, 2008, 06:18:39 pm
TENERE, sure it will be at least R20 000 to R25 000 cheaper. Not in the same class but a better buy IMHO.
Plus one ;) I do not think that the new GS 800 is for me. We all have different riding styles and needs. ( horses for courses.) Dont fool yourself that the bike is light ::) Drop it a few times and pick it up and then we talk another story. I think Yummy has got as close to what i need for my next bike, Just price may be a issue.

We will have to wait for demo's or second hand ones, maybe able to afford it by then  ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 12:48:38 am
But when?  >:D

Wees geduldig.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on April 20, 2008, 02:46:41 pm
Ja nee Cappie ek stem daai 800GS is vir my n teleurstelling man,te veel goed wat aaklig is op die ding en te veel om te moet beskerm of te betaal vir aftermarket goodies....BMW wil net geld maak....

Met jou budget wat jy genoem het kan jy amper n BRANDNEW 650 Strom kry en 1 smooth lekker bike in my opinie... ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 04:57:12 pm
Ja nee Cappie ek stem daai 800GS is vir my n teleurstelling man,te veel goed wat aaklig is op die ding en te veel om te moet beskerm of te betaal vir aftermarket goodies....BMW wil net geld maak....

Met jou budget wat jy genoem het kan jy amper n BRANDNEW 650 Strom kry en 1 smooth lekker bike in my opinie... ;) ;) ;D ;D

Dis die plan ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 20, 2008, 07:15:30 pm
Ja nee Cappie ek stem daai 800GS is vir my n teleurstelling man,te veel goed wat aaklig is op die ding en te veel om te moet beskerm of te betaal vir aftermarket goodies....BMW wil net geld maak....

Met jou budget wat jy genoem het kan jy amper n BRANDNEW 650 Strom kry en 1 smooth lekker bike in my opinie... ;) ;) ;D ;D

Dis die plan ;)

Ok, but will you feel satisfied with having the bike just sit around instead of stripping out the front suspension, cutting and fitting a allu plate to hold your touring gear (aka the rear wing), not having any issues with the bike not starting, not having to worry about the bike not having brakes etc etc etc, ag jissie you know what I mean.
And what are you going to call your new thread?
"Help NOT needed - not renovating my new Strom?"
Ag nee kom nou Cappy, kry vir jou n nice bike!

 >:D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 07:19:41 pm
Ja nee Cappie ek stem daai 800GS is vir my n teleurstelling man,te veel goed wat aaklig is op die ding en te veel om te moet beskerm of te betaal vir aftermarket goodies....BMW wil net geld maak....

Met jou budget wat jy genoem het kan jy amper n BRANDNEW 650 Strom kry en 1 smooth lekker bike in my opinie... ;) ;) ;D ;D

Dis die plan ;)

Ok, but will you feel satisfied with having the bike just sit around instead of stripping out the front suspension, cutting and fitting a allu plate to hold your touring gear (aka the rear wing), not having any issues with the bike not starting, not having to worry about the bike not having brakes etc etc etc, ag jissie you know what I mean.
And what are you going to call your new thread?
"Help NOT needed - not renovating my new Strom?"
Ag nee kom nou Cappy, kry vir jou n nice bike!

 >:D


Captain's Wee Strom Pimp guide :laughing4:
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 20, 2008, 07:22:05 pm
Ja nee Cappie ek stem daai 800GS is vir my n teleurstelling man,te veel goed wat aaklig is op die ding en te veel om te moet beskerm of te betaal vir aftermarket goodies....BMW wil net geld maak....

Met jou budget wat jy genoem het kan jy amper n BRANDNEW 650 Strom kry en 1 smooth lekker bike in my opinie... ;) ;) ;D ;D

 ;D


Dis die plan ;)

Ok, but will you feel satisfied with having the bike just sit around instead of stripping out the front suspension, cutting and fitting a allu plate to hold your touring gear (aka the rear wing), not having any issues with the bike not starting, not having to worry about the bike not having brakes etc etc etc, ag jissie you know what I mean.
And what are you going to call your new thread?
"Help NOT needed - not renovating my new Strom?"
Ag nee kom nou Cappy, kry vir jou n nice bike!

 >:D


Captain's Wee Strom Pimp guide :laughing4:

 ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 07:23:07 pm
Uncle i will do lots of mods on the Strom. ;)

After July i will have alot more time to ride. I want to get out there and ride and not spend my time on mods and restoration. The KLR was a great experience and i now know what kind of bike i want. KLR was just to slow on the tarmac. Lately i've been going slower and slower on gravel, so i don't need the KLRs offroad ability. ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 20, 2008, 07:26:31 pm
Actually Captain I've never taking any other bike but my KLR on the dirt, so wouldn't know about their capabilities. Went on the alternate (read 'easy') route as planned by Blazes today, and suffice is to say that the guys (and gals) had to reset their watches while waiting for me to catch up!

 :D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 07:33:18 pm
Actually Captain I've never taking any other bike but my KLR on the dirt, so wouldn't know about their capabilities. Went on the alternate (read 'easy') route as planned by Blazes today, and suffice is to say that the guys (and gals) had to reset their watches while waiting for me to catch up!

 :D


So what you are new at riding bikes.... just like me ;)

I can't ride with the okes thats been riding for years.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 20, 2008, 07:41:14 pm
Ja, and the longer you stay without one, the worse it's going to get. (Stirring, stirring!). We really need an icon of a spoon on this forum!
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 20, 2008, 09:09:19 pm
Ja, and the longer you stay without one, the worse it's going to get. (Stirring, stirring!). We really need an icon of a spoon on this forum!

Don't worry i'm working on getting a bike.... i'm searching for a bargain...
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Malibu on April 21, 2008, 12:07:52 pm
Ok, I picked up my 800GS on friday.  She is magnificent!  Was scheduled to be filmed for that programme that no-one wants to mention on Saturday, so packed her with camping gear and set off on Saturday morning with a whole 47km's on the clock.  Filming took place on a variety of terrains and I have to say, despite having to get to grips with a new bike, learning to be a bit more gentle on the throttle and handling the extra weight on the back, I am extremely thrilled with my baby!  Yes, I have to get a few option extras, but what I have now is probably the best fitting bike for my physical capabilites and as a girl, pleases my eye! 
I'm in LOVE!   ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 21, 2008, 12:31:29 pm
Congrats
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: LeonDude on April 21, 2008, 07:26:46 pm
Ok, I picked up my 800GS on friday.  She is magnificent!  Was scheduled to be filmed for that programme that no-one wants to mention on Saturday, so packed her with camping gear and set off on Saturday morning with a whole 47km's on the clock.  Filming took place on a variety of terrains and I have to say, despite having to get to grips with a new bike, learning to be a bit more gentle on the throttle and handling the extra weight on the back, I am extremely thrilled with my baby!  Yes, I have to get a few option extras, but what I have now is probably the best fitting bike for my physical capabilites and as a girl, pleases my eye! 
I'm in LOVE!   ;D

Come on, where's the PICS!!
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Malibu on April 22, 2008, 10:07:07 am
Hehehehe - Uncle - would you believe that with all the posing and re-runs for corners and scenery shots, I actually did not take any pics. Was thinking that as I'll be given a copy of all the footage shot, I'd be one of the few people with an entire movie of my first ride on the bike... that sort of ticked my fancy a bit, I have to admit!

Next trip - you guys are gonna be bombarded with pics......   ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Malibu on April 23, 2008, 04:54:25 pm
Ok, here are some happy snaps...
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on April 23, 2008, 05:08:41 pm
Very nice ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 29, 2008, 03:07:34 am
Ok, here are some happy snaps...

Malibu, how tall are you? And is that the low profile seat?
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Malibu on April 29, 2008, 10:41:43 am
I'm 1m75, fairly tall for a girl.  The pics show the high seat, but I felt it was fractionally too high as I could not really get my feet down.  Met a chap on Saturday who bought the new 650GS with the lower seat.  We swopped, and I have to say I'm far happier with the height now. 

Took her off-road yesterday with the lower seat and I felt far more confident....
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Iron Shark on August 01, 2008, 11:50:58 am
Very very nice Malibu, I took one for a demo a week ago, very nice bike, runs well just found the throttle a little twichie...  ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BiG DoM on August 01, 2008, 12:41:33 pm
Very nice - by the smile on your face certainly has "tickled your fancy"  ::)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on August 01, 2008, 03:51:42 pm
Very very nice Malibu, I took one for a demo a week ago, very nice bike, runs well just found the throttle a little twichie...  ;D

Waar krap jy die ou thread uit :D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Captain Zef on August 01, 2008, 03:52:31 pm
Very nice - by the smile on your face certainly has "tickled your fancy"  ::)

 :laughing4: :laughing4:  >:D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 02, 2008, 03:41:47 pm
Well let me tell you guys Ive done over 2500km on my 800 in the last two weeks, and have just returned from a AWESOME dirt trip through Swaziland and this bike rocks on dirt. The RR will come after my bath ;D and once I have sorted out my pics.  My mrs has a new 650, and after initally wanting to sell it as soon as possible (there were a couple of nasty off's involved) there is no way she will sell it now.

So IMHO, get the 650 if you dont have the bucks. This bike is way underrated, and is not far off the 800 at all. Its cheaper to run too. If you do have the bucks, GET the 800, she'll blow you away if you give her the chance. In both cases, prepare yourself for 15 sticks for crash bars, bash plate, hand protectors and higher screen, all a must as far as Im concerned.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Iron Shark on August 03, 2008, 10:12:45 am
Well let me tell you guys Ive done over 2500km on my 800 in the last two weeks, and have just returned from a AWESOME dirt trip through Swaziland and this bike rocks on dirt. The RR will come after my bath ;D and once I have sorted out my pics.  My mrs has a new 650, and after initally wanting to sell it as soon as possible (there were a couple of nasty off's involved) there is no way she will sell it now.

So IMHO, get the 650 if you dont have the bucks. This bike is way underrated, and is not far off the 800 at all. Its cheaper to run too. If you do have the bucks, GET the 800, she'll blow you away if you give her the chance. In both cases, prepare yourself for 15 sticks for crash bars, bash plate, hand protectors and higher screen, all a must as far as Im concerned.

So BlueBull2007 tell me what did you think of the comfort factor??? I spent the best part of 5 hours on and off the 800 ridding stopping chatting comparing notes with a mate and thought it's seat a bit hard. Am I way out on this one or what say you??? Ok so maybe you'll be adressing these in your RR, will take a look when its done.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BiG DoM on August 03, 2008, 10:29:38 am

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So BlueBull2007 tell me what did you think of the comfort factor??? I spent the best part of 5 hours on and off the 800 ridding stopping chatting comparing notes with a mate and thought it's seat a bit hard. Am I way out on this one or what say you??? Ok so maybe you'll be adressing these in your RR, will take a look when its done.
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Also found the seat a bit hard and narrower than my Adv - they do seem to break in a bit but doubt this could be considered an all day seat - certainly not as numbing as some 'orange' ones though!
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Elmo on August 03, 2008, 11:11:11 am
Also found the seat a bit hard and narrower than my Adv - they do seem to break in a bit but doubt this could be considered an all day seat - certainly not as numbing as some 'orange' ones though!

Huh?
Jhb - Cape Town one day
Baviaans - Jhb one day
Swakopmund - Jhb two days
What was supposed to go numb.....? :-\
Only numbing effect i felt , was waiting for other okes on blue ..... >:D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: FatOldSun on August 03, 2008, 05:19:05 pm
I am on waiting list for GS800, BMW Bellville.   They say waiting list 3-Years.   In the meantime, I tested the Honda Varadero 1000 (though Ugly), a better package and cheaper.  Shame about Honda looks.  If they change the looks, I would buy the Honda before the GS800.  I am not looking at the GS1200 Adv.  Seems better value for money than the GS800, and only about 2-months to wait. 

I emailed KTM for new 990Adventurer, only for them to reply and try and sell met the 2007 990.  Then not answer my emails about price/availibility of 2008 990 Adv KTM.

While waiting for GS800, hopefully rumours about new KTM1080 Adventurer will be true.  Good buy cruel BMW, I am leaving you now...   3-Years???   I could be dead by then??? 
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: michnus on August 03, 2008, 05:23:27 pm
The facelift will be available in 3 years.   :imaposer: Out of principle don't buy from a manufacturer that's got that long waiting list, it's not like you are buying Rossi's race bike or something special.  :eek7:
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BiG DoM on August 03, 2008, 09:23:10 pm
I am on waiting list for GS800, BMW Bellville.   They say waiting list 3-Years.   In the meantime, I tested the Honda Varadero 1000 (though Ugly), a better package and cheaper.  Shame about Honda looks.  If they change the looks, I would buy the Honda before the GS800.  I am not looking at the GS1200 Adv.  Seems better value for money than the GS800, and only about 2-months to wait. 

I emailed KTM for new 990Adventurer, only for them to reply and try and sell met the 2007 990.  Then not answer my emails about price/availibility of 2008 990 Adv KTM.

While waiting for GS800, hopefully rumours about new KTM1080 Adventurer will be true.  Good buy cruel BMW, I am leaving you now...   3-Years???   I could be dead by then??? 

3 years forget it. Phone Hein Kumm at his Motorrad in East London and I am sure he will sort you in more like 3 months max. He basically told me if I wanted one it could be organised without too much difficulty. Just because belville has such a waiting list does not mean you cannot buy from another dealer - and CY must still service it etc for you. Each dealer gets a qouta and then some have strings....
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: edgy on August 03, 2008, 09:29:48 pm
So,have you ordered? ;D
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: michnus on August 03, 2008, 09:51:31 pm
Service is bad, but he would for sure not deliver a bike for him in the UK or is it now Bellville.  :biggrin:

Also send HentieBM a PM
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 05, 2008, 06:45:29 pm
Well let me tell you guys Ive done over 2500km on my 800 in the last two weeks, and have just returned from a AWESOME dirt trip through Swaziland and this bike rocks on dirt. The RR will come after my bath ;D and once I have sorted out my pics.  My mrs has a new 650, and after initally wanting to sell it as soon as possible (there were a couple of nasty off's involved) there is no way she will sell it now.

So IMHO, get the 650 if you dont have the bucks. This bike is way underrated, and is not far off the 800 at all. Its cheaper to run too. If you do have the bucks, GET the 800, she'll blow you away if you give her the chance. In both cases, prepare yourself for 15 sticks for crash bars, bash plate, hand protectors and higher screen, all a must as far as Im concerned.

So BlueBull2007 tell me what did you think of the comfort factor??? I spent the best part of 5 hours on and off the 800 ridding stopping chatting comparing notes with a mate and thought it's seat a bit hard. Am I way out on this one or what say you??? Ok so maybe you'll be adressing these in your RR, will take a look when its done.

Well My ass gets sore hey, but posers arent supposed to get sore asses... :D

Ive ordered some sheepskin covers for me and the missus. Not sure this will help much. I can do about 300km before I HAVE to get off the bike. But then, if you do more dirt you stand more, so then its not a problem :P .

Still its a beaut bike, get lots of head turning, but more importantly its wunnerful on dirt.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: mountainboy on August 07, 2008, 02:36:47 pm
there some clown selling his for R130 000

bit it does come with handguards ::)

eish

http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-for-Sale-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-BMW-F-800-GS-W0QQAdIdZ66888694
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Hentie @ Riders on August 07, 2008, 02:48:26 pm
Praat maar met my ek sal altyd 'n WD probeer help. :biggrin:
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: michnus on August 07, 2008, 03:13:37 pm
there some clown selling his for R130 000

bit it does come with handguards ::)

eish

http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-for-Sale-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-BMW-F-800-GS-W0QQAdIdZ66888694


HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA   :imaposer:  What's he thinking? Naah, that's right he wasn't thinking, if he was thinking he would have advertised it for a reasonable price, guess he can hang on to that one for a while.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: mountainboy on August 07, 2008, 03:20:52 pm
Praat maar met my ek sal altyd 'n WD probeer help. :biggrin:

hentie, doen jy massages ook

my rug is in sy donner :biggrin:
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Wolweseun on August 07, 2008, 05:18:11 pm
there some clown selling his for R130 000

bit it does come with handguards ::)

eish

http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-for-Sale-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-BMW-F-800-GS-W0QQAdIdZ66888694

WAP
Shoo Ill Take 150k for mine
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Ball and Chain on August 07, 2008, 08:21:41 pm
Praat maar met my ek sal altyd 'n WD probeer help. :biggrin:

hentie, doen jy massages ook

my rug is in sy donner :biggrin:

Nee                             

Hy suig net :thumleft:


Anyway die GS 800 is great.

Dit is die eerste BMW wat ek wil he.
Het saam met RassieBMW800 en Jerichorider na ECBash  gegaan en teruggekom. Die bike is briljant op grond en vlieg op teer.  Doen oor die 200km/h op teer sonder kak.

af. 
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BigEd on August 07, 2008, 10:08:57 pm
I know I'll be slated for this but I was not impressed with the 800GS. Took it for a spin, but no thank you. I think someone summed it up well - horses for courses. And that little rattling brake fluid res - bliksem, I almost ripped it off. I tend to look at the "value for money" aspect of the deal, that's why I choose the Varadero.

I saw the new Tenere too - pity I could take it for a spin though. Looks nice although too much plastic pieces (I tend to break them - if you find pieces of plastic in the Karoo, wasn't me ::))

Again, I tried it and didn't like it. What's the point of buying something you don't like.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 07, 2008, 10:11:40 pm
OK I am biased got one three weeks ago and just had run it  in and serviced points are:

- yes wind protection not good above 120
- 2 spec cost the same as a 1200 so yes add another 20 k on both at least
- but man does it handle like my old Suzuki TS 50 ist so light
- the power is awsome (actually more than enough)
- so in the end you do "save) 25 k vs a 1200 give or take
- second hand 1200?? after the horror stories I have read on the forum no thanks with my luck i will get a @#$%^&*( 12 000 and a farkinbg gearbox will cost me 42 k



Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Wolweseun on August 07, 2008, 10:17:57 pm
Where does everyone come with 20K for farkles

Headlight protector R350
Bashplate R1 400
Crashbars R 1 350
Handguards R800 - R1200
Screen R1500 - R2 500

Show me where is 20K
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: michnus on August 07, 2008, 10:31:17 pm
+1 Wolwelaaitie

Plaashaas, you can't compare the 800 to the 1200, you buy the 800 for a reason, it's like trying to choose between a sports bike and a tourer, the asking price can't be the determining factor here. You wanted a 1200, but rahter decide to buy a 800?

What exactly horror stories of the 1200? Go phone BMW and ask them what the 800 box going to cost you, I bet you you will choke in your spit when they tell you. In the end it's rare cases this stuff happen. Like forums go, you will always hear about the complains and very little about how good it is.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 10, 2008, 08:53:49 pm
Ja read the 1st line  " my biased opinion "

please  note

I was comparing a old bike vs new --- no point about arguing that it will cost nearly the same to fix as its nearly a given

--- two diff bikes agreed one had been in dvds 1200 gs (long way down around and down)

hehe

 

Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 10, 2008, 08:57:15 pm
Wolveseun


Headlight protector R350 - not needed by me
Bashplate R1 400 - needed
Crashbars R 1 350 -needed
Handguards R800 - R1200 (maybe)
Screen R1500 - R2 500 (if u can find one) and at that alledged price !!

Show me where is 20K

on now for top box? and panniers and you get close to it

 :'(

Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Jacko on August 10, 2008, 09:19:39 pm
Wolveseun


Headlight protector R350 - not needed by me
Bashplate R1 400 - needed
Crashbars R 1 350 -needed
Handguards R800 - R1200 (maybe)
Screen R1500 - R2 500 (if u can find one) and at that alledged price !!

Show me where is 20K

on now for top box? and panniers and you get close to it

Plaashaas - that goes for any bike, 1200 GS, 1200 Adv, 990 Adv, et al.

And anyway, you don't need aly panniers for overlanding.

 :'(


Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 11, 2008, 09:43:53 am
I said ///// you are in for 20 k on any new bike it wasn't biased against bm, ktm, hyosung, baja, kawa, suz, etc

it was a comment in affirmation not in contradiction

I hate panniers but you need the @#$%^&* things to put anything on a bike
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Ice2 on August 11, 2008, 10:17:44 am
I took the GS 800 for a good spin a month or so back and I was impressed. Good power and handling was great. Not as light as I would like it to be, but light enough to handle well. I guess I'll go back to my old saying; if you want one, buy one. If you donā??t like it sell it, BMW's second hand value is good as per my experience.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 11, 2008, 08:05:35 pm
Wolveseun


Headlight protector R350 - not needed by me
Bashplate R1 400 - needed
Crashbars R 1 350 -needed
Handguards R800 - R1200 (maybe)
Screen R1500 - R2 500 (if u can find one) and at that alledged price !!

Show me where is 20K

on now for top box? and panniers and you get close to it

 :'(



R1600 for a screen at CY tech. They have screens in stock, fitted while you wait.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 12, 2008, 07:27:42 am
CY hwere are they belville?

hehe no serious where are they contact number please im in Gauteng

 ;)
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: michnus on August 12, 2008, 11:07:05 am
I think Cytech are selling the War Eagle screens, look them up in PTA, the screens most probably cost around R900 form them directly.
Title: Re: BMW F800GS IMHO
Post by: Plaashaas on August 12, 2008, 02:23:38 pm
Thanx michnus


send them and email (all the other okes are normally waiting for stock)