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Title: What do you sleep on
Post by: wims_za on April 27, 2015, 09:03:26 pm
Both Beachtosand and I have been camping for a while (pre biking days) and enjoy our comfort, especially when it comes to sleeping. Stretchers, electric blankets (for winter etc.), marque tent .....

Have dug out our Campmaster 3man tent but the burning question that we need answered is:

as bikers what do you take along to sleep on and in. I guess sleeping bags, blow up pillows - but what else ???
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Swannie 685 on April 27, 2015, 09:13:07 pm
Blow up dolls  :peepwall:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Swannie 685 on April 27, 2015, 09:16:56 pm
Sleeping bag = yes
pillows?? = NO
Mattress =NO
Stretcher = NO

Damn, i`m camping man :biggrin:


Lots of food = YES, YES  :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Heimer on April 27, 2015, 09:47:48 pm
Tent
Sleeping bag
Mattress

Whatever your budget can afford and what your available space allows

Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Noneking on April 27, 2015, 09:48:00 pm
ATG stretcher!! Nothing like it!
Sleeping bag and self-inflating pillow
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: wims_za on April 27, 2015, 09:55:00 pm
Swannie 685

no blow-up dolls when Beachtosea comes along - only the real McCoy    ;)
You are far to hardcore for us


Noneking - like the look of it, but how comfortable are these?

Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Gérrard on April 27, 2015, 09:58:09 pm
Sleeping bag, mohair blanket, Comfort delux self-inflating mattress. I like my comfort
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: StuartC on April 27, 2015, 10:09:35 pm
self inflating jobbie
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Fudmucker on April 27, 2015, 11:32:28 pm
ATG Ribz stretcher
Blue closed cell foam yoga mat
Sleeping bag
Fleece blanket inside in winter.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 27, 2015, 11:38:25 pm
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: epic pornstar on April 28, 2015, 01:35:28 am
Think there is one rated to 140kg check out bikegear or flying brick
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on April 28, 2015, 03:44:46 am
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Yes, there are TWO variants of ATG/Ribzz stretcher:
Up to 100kg, regular
Up to 140kg, heavy-duty.

We carry both in stock.
Cheers
Chris & Team
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Allegro on April 28, 2015, 05:07:58 am
Swannie 685

no blow-up dolls when Beachtosea comes along - only the real McCoy    ;)
You are far to hardcore for us


Noneking - like the look of it, but how comfortable are these?



Very much so, I have x2 of them  :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Noneking on April 28, 2015, 06:13:35 am
Swannie 685

no blow-up dolls when Beachtosea comes along - only the real McCoy    ;)
You are far to hardcore for us


Noneking - like the look of it, but how comfortable are these?

Mine is very comfortable. Not by bed at home, but close enough.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Gingerball on April 28, 2015, 06:56:45 am
I have one of those thin self inflatable Outdoorswharehouse mattresses, but just is not comfortable enough for me so I went back to the normal inflatable mattress.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 28, 2015, 07:12:17 am
Also use the ATG ribz stretcher, but with a thin self-inflating mattress on top of it. Very very comfy and warm.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: JINEWER on April 28, 2015, 07:20:56 am
Tip:  The problem with using any type of stretcher is the cold rising from underneath ....... Solution is using a "picnic blanket" under the stretcher, on the ground or even on top of the stretcher, acting as a sheet,...one of those with the "Silver Foil"-isolation on the one side......works like a charm !
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Ganjora on April 28, 2015, 07:27:41 am
a proper bed in a B&B or back packers.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Swannie 685 on April 28, 2015, 07:37:15 am
a proper bed in a B&B or back packers.

That`s not camping ! You describe day rides  :lol8:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Vis Arend on April 28, 2015, 07:37:34 am
On my wife   :biggrin:

Sleeping bag, Comfort delux self-inflating mattress. As jup I also like my comfort, I am not on a survival mission.   :deal:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Mr Zog on April 28, 2015, 07:39:16 am
a proper bed in a B&B or back packers.

+1,  and if that fails, wherever I fall when I pass out.  >:D
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 28, 2015, 07:46:55 am
I sleep in my clothes, no sleeping bag or mattress, sometimes a rock for a pillow.

No, of course I'm talking rubbish. It used to be like that.

Nowadays, if it is more the a one-sleepover, I take my chair, yoga-mattress, sleeping bag, and if it is during colder months, 1 or 2 fleece blankets.
I am usually not too cold.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Vis Arend on April 28, 2015, 07:48:56 am
I sleep in my clothes, no sleeping bag or mattress, sometimes a rock for a pillow.

No, of course I'm talking rubbish. It used to be like that.

Nowadays, if it is more the a one-sleepover, I take my chair, yoga-mattress, sleeping bag, and if it is during colder months, 1 or 2 fleece blankets or lacal newspapers.   :biggrin:
I am usually not too cold.

fixed   :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 28, 2015, 07:58:43 am
 :laughing4:

I misjudged the weather that night at Veldtie's place. :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Ganjora on April 28, 2015, 08:17:36 am
i always used to camp.  thin inflatable mattress and sleeping bag in a tent.
when the wife started coming with,  the rule was proper accommodation.
wise indeed.
less luggage on the bike,  and after a day of riding,  a proper room and bed rests you nicely for the next day.
 
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: AntonDP on April 28, 2015, 08:43:15 am
ATG Ribz stretcher
Blue closed cell foam yoga mat
Sleeping bag
Fleece blanket inside in winter.

+1
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: leading edge on April 28, 2015, 08:55:00 am
You cant make a camp fire inside a BandB
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Ganjora on April 28, 2015, 09:21:14 am
You cant make a camp fire inside a BandB

not inside,  that would be foolish,  but most places offering self catering accom have a braai spot.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 09:52:05 am
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Yes, there are TWO variants of ATG/Ribzz stretcher:
Up to 100kg, regular
Up to 140kg, heavy-duty.

We carry both in stock.
Cheers
Chris & Team

Chris - are these colour coded?
I have 2 ATG's in my possession currently, a blue and a black - I suspect the black is the Heavy Duty version - could you confirm....?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: hornet3 on April 28, 2015, 09:55:05 am
Blue lightweight foam jobbie just to prevent punctures to my self-inflating mattress and sleeping bag.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 09:55:30 am
ATG Stretcher
First Ascent self-inflating mattress
0deg rated sleeping bag
Thermal liner for winter
Blow up pillow
2-man tent per person....

I hate being cold or uncomfortable when camping.....

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: eberhard on April 28, 2015, 10:03:14 am
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Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 28, 2015, 12:26:14 pm
Also use the ATG ribz stretcher, but with a thin self-inflating mattress on top of it. Very very comfy and warm.

This sounds great!
I will get myself an heavy duty Atg and self inflatable soon!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 28, 2015, 12:33:12 pm
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Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 28, 2015, 12:39:59 pm
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Yes, there are TWO variants of ATG/Ribzz stretcher:
Up to 100kg, regular
Up to 140kg, heavy-duty.

We carry both in stock.
Cheers
Chris & Team

Chris - are these colour coded?
I have 2 ATG's in my possession currently, a blue and a black - I suspect the black is the Heavy Duty version - could you confirm....?
If memory serves me correctly, the heavy duty has more legs than the normal one. But don't quote me on this.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: DIRT SKUNK on April 28, 2015, 12:44:04 pm
Normally I only camp at rallies
so ribs stretcher :thumleft: care of Flying Brick, less pain and time then blowing up the doll? oops! sorry matress:imaposer:
fleecy blanket. if really cold (Springbok rally) I sleep in my riding gear :biggrin:  otherwise jeans an teeshirt :thumleft:
DS
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 12:44:35 pm
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Yes, there are TWO variants of ATG/Ribzz stretcher:
Up to 100kg, regular
Up to 140kg, heavy-duty.

We carry both in stock.
Cheers
Chris & Team

Chris - are these colour coded?
I have 2 ATG's in my possession currently, a blue and a black - I suspect the black is the Heavy Duty version - could you confirm....?
If memory serves me correctly, the heavy duty has more legs than the normal one. But don't quote me on this.

Both mine have the same number, same number of poles too - but I seem to remember my wife telling me one is rated for, um, "Higher loads"....  :eek7:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Noneking on April 28, 2015, 01:38:19 pm
I want to buy an ATG strecher but any one know if it will handele my fat as 115kg?
Yes, there are TWO variants of ATG/Ribzz stretcher:
Up to 100kg, regular
Up to 140kg, heavy-duty.

We carry both in stock.
Cheers
Chris & Team

Chris - are these colour coded?
I have 2 ATG's in my possession currently, a blue and a black - I suspect the black is the Heavy Duty version - could you confirm....?
If memory serves me correctly, the heavy duty has more legs than the normal one. But don't quote me on this.

Think so as well......
More doubles in the middle?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Dorsland on April 28, 2015, 03:27:03 pm
Do those ATG strechers not press holes in the floor of the tent?  I have often looked at them but this question has always put me off.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 03:38:34 pm
Do those ATG strechers not press holes in the floor of the tent?  I have often looked at them but this question has always put me off.

Nope - the radius touches the floor - and there are 12 of them - so in soft sand, the footprint is about 2cm wide and 6cm long or so....

I use mine in a 2-man tent, standard nylon floor, 1 weigh 90kg's, did 14 nights in Namibia without marking the floor?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Dorsland on April 28, 2015, 03:39:48 pm
Thanks CT  :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 03:41:01 pm
Thanks CT  :thumleft:

Pleasure - I will assemble both tonight to check the differences as well.....
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Welsh on April 28, 2015, 03:45:31 pm
Do those ATG strechers not press holes in the floor of the tent?  I have often looked at them but this question has always put me off.

Nope - the radius touches the floor - and there are 12 of them - so in soft sand, the footprint is about 2cm wide and 6cm long or so....

I use mine in a 2-man tent, standard nylon floor, 1 weigh 90kg's, did 14 nights in Namibia without marking the floor?

90kg's blerry Annorexic.... :peepwall:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 28, 2015, 03:54:16 pm
Do those ATG strechers not press holes in the floor of the tent?  I have often looked at them but this question has always put me off.

Nope - the radius touches the floor - and there are 12 of them - so in soft sand, the footprint is about 2cm wide and 6cm long or so....

I use mine in a 2-man tent, standard nylon floor, 1 weigh 90kg's, did 14 nights in Namibia without marking the floor?

90kg's blerry Annorexic.... :peepwall:

Don't worry - I'm working on it....  :imaposer:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: BradT on April 28, 2015, 04:39:08 pm
You cant make a camp fire inside a BandB

not inside,  that would be foolish,  but most places offering self catering accom have a braai spot.

 :imaposer:  :imaposer:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 28, 2015, 05:10:01 pm
Made up my mind, will be getting an ATG stretcher
Where do I get this self inflatable mattress which I want to put on it then?
I don't even know what it is and how something can inflate itself - I am not blonde, I am grey
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: wims_za on April 28, 2015, 05:15:52 pm
Wow, what a response and here I thought just a plain simple question.

As for ATG, sounds good, but how long does it take to assemble?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 28, 2015, 05:20:01 pm
Wow, what a response and here I thought just a plain simple question.

As for ATG, sounds good, but how long does it take to assemble?

Just show you that dogs love their sleep!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: SteveD on April 28, 2015, 05:21:05 pm
Wow, what a response and here I thought just a plain simple question.

As for ATG, sounds good, but how long does it take to assemble?

The first time, about three beers. Then you get the hang of it, and it takes about three minutes. Really quick...
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Noneking on April 28, 2015, 06:00:16 pm
Wow, what a response and here I thought just a plain simple question.

As for ATG, sounds good, but how long does it take to assemble?

The first time, about three beers. Then you get the hang of it, and it takes about three minutes. Really quick...

Yes, don't make the mistake of trying to figure it out for the first time at the camp site 😛😛
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Noneking on April 28, 2015, 06:02:04 pm
Do those ATG strechers not press holes in the floor of the tent?  I have often looked at them but this question has always put me off.

Nope
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 28, 2015, 06:28:57 pm
You cant make a camp fire inside a BandB

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: BradT on April 28, 2015, 06:45:44 pm
http://www.atgear.co.za/camp-sleeper/8-atg-camp-sleeper.html (http://www.atgear.co.za/camp-sleeper/8-atg-camp-sleeper.html)

i found this on the internet.  Check the video at the bottom of the page.  :deal:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 28, 2015, 06:54:17 pm
Made up my mind, will be getting an ATG stretcher
Where do I get this self inflatable mattress which I want to put on it then?
I don't even know what it is and how something can inflate itself - I am not blonde, I am grey
All outdoor shops sells the self-inflating mattresses. Due South, Cape Union Mart, Hiker's Paradise, and Outdoor Adventures. There's quite a range available too. I found that if I went too thick on the mattress it tended to make me roll around if I was not lying exactly in the center. But those are the cheaper ones. The more classy one, like the klymit Static V (or something like that) is actually shaped to prevent this, but is more costly. I bought a plain comfort version that works perfectly.

Now just to find a proper inflatable pillow. The ones I found so far makes my head roll off  :imaposer: And makes a crackling noise like a papsak  :imaposer:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 28, 2015, 08:40:11 pm
Anything inflatable means that you are going to wake up in the early hours, flat on the ground. It is a matter of time. :pot:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: StuartC on April 28, 2015, 09:10:19 pm
I got one,, best think since sliced bread
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Bensien on April 28, 2015, 09:13:14 pm
On this forum, this question is largely hypothetical. Most Dogs I know are so pissed by bedtime they could sleep on a cactus and not notice it.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: wolf skaap on April 28, 2015, 09:13:51 pm
The one and only, Klymit Static V.
Folded, it's the size of a can of Coke  :o
(http://www.klymit.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/404x344/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/staticv3_1_.png)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn7kM97lKF6aM0i6PlcSbe2gzPvHOvx85j_ki3HWsCg8MzbboEYw)
(http://www.theoutdooradventure.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Klymit1.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 28, 2015, 09:16:14 pm
On this forum, this question is largely hypothetical. Most Dogs I know are so pissed by bedtime they could sleep on a cactus and not notice it.

Actually, most of the Dog's drinking tales belong in Manic's "Kakpraat thread"  :xxbah:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Crop Sprang on April 28, 2015, 10:52:02 pm
ATG stretcher!! Nothing like it!
Sleeping bag and self-inflating pillow

Ditto
Atg stretcher is the bizness
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 28, 2015, 11:41:37 pm
Made up my mind, will be getting an ATG stretcher
Where do I get this self inflatable mattress which I want to put on it then?
I don't even know what it is and how something can inflate itself - I am not blonde, I am grey
All outdoor shops sells the self-inflating mattresses. Due South, Cape Union Mart, Hiker's Paradise, and Outdoor Adventures. There's quite a range available too. I found that if I went too thick on the mattress it tended to make me roll around if I was not lying exactly in the center. But those are the cheaper ones. The more classy one, like the klymit Static V (or something like that) is actually shaped to prevent this, but is more costly. I bought a plain comfort version that works perfectly.

Now just to find a proper inflatable pillow. The ones I found so far makes my head roll off  :imaposer: And makes a crackling noise like a papsak  :imaposer:

Great stuff, thanks for the advice .........and I will try to steer clear of the 'papsak pillow'!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 29, 2015, 07:05:42 am
OK - I checked both my ATG's last night - the blue one (100kg) has a thinner fabric than the black one (140kg) - they both have the same number of poles and legs...

I also use a First Ascent iself-inflating mattress - but I will upgrade to the Klymit Static V shortly - it's about a quarter of the size, and not a huge price difference!

OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 29, 2015, 07:20:33 am
Anything inflatable means that you are going to wake up in the early hours, flat on the ground. It is a matter of time. :pot:

That is exactly why I place my self-inflatable on top of my stretcher, never on the ground. I've had my fair share of punctures before  :thumleft:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 29, 2015, 07:25:00 am
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OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Yep. Too hard and my head rolls off. Too soft and it crackles as my head turns. Maybe it's just because I have an el' cheapo one.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: hornet3 on April 29, 2015, 07:52:45 am
Anything inflatable means that you are going to wake up in the early hours, flat on the ground. It is a matter of time. :pot:

That is exactly why I place my self-inflatable on top of my stretcher, never on the ground. I've had my fair share of punctures before  :thumleft:
That's why I use the blue foam mat - to avoid punctures and having to pack a stretcher with poles etc - then I can pack a 3 man tent and have more space. I use the Oz tent - very nice.
Title: Re: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Dorsland on April 29, 2015, 08:16:17 am
The one and only, Klymit Static V.
Folded, it's the size of a can of Coke  :o
(http://www.klymit.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/404x344/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/staticv3_1_.png)
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn7kM97lKF6aM0i6PlcSbe2gzPvHOvx85j_ki3HWsCg8MzbboEYw)
(http://www.theoutdooradventure.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Klymit1.jpg)
Where to buy? Price?
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 29, 2015, 08:24:46 am
Saw them at Cape Union Mart last week - about R950 IIRC? Not cheap, but then the FA version is about R700 anyway....
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 29, 2015, 09:39:04 am
Both Beachtosand and I have been camping for a while (pre biking days) and enjoy our comfort, especially when it comes to sleeping. Stretchers, electric blankets (for winter etc.), marque tent .....

Have dug out our Campmaster 3man tent but the burning question that we need answered is:

as bikers what do you take along to sleep on and in. I guess sleeping bags, blow up pillows - but what else ???

Your options for mattresses.

Self inflating mattress:
Very easy and quick to use. Just open the valve and throw it in your tent with a few more breaths before going to sleep. No additional pumps required. Foam give heat insulation for colder camping. Pack size is still biggish. Thin and not very comfortable especially if you sleep on your side.

Standard inflatable mattress:
The blue or cream ones that are about 150mm thick when inflated. Takes a while to inflate and you also need to carry a pump. Sleeps very comfortable. You need additional protection for cold camping (ground radiation from below). You have the option of using one double bed mattress for two people (will probably take less space incl pump than 2 self inflating ones)

ATG Stretcher:
Compact and no issues with punctures. Off the ground in case your tent gets wet inside or whatever. Not quick to assemble but not a long process either. Also needs more insulation in cold climates. Presume some don't find them that comfortable and combine it with a self inflating mattress (also for cold weather camping)

Klymit V:
Still want to try it but know it is basically a thin inflatable mattress. Thus you probably don't need a pump as it is small enough to inflate by mouth. Guess not as comfortable as a standard inflatable but it looks thicker than a self inflating one. As mentioned very small to pack.



As for pillows:

Plain blue inflatable from Outdoor Warehouse worked fine for me. Just don't over inflate.

Have used my half filled hydration backpack with clothing over it as an effective pillow.

Standard memory foam pillow cut in half works great for me. Compress and roll to fairly small size similar to a self inflating mattress.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Dewd on April 29, 2015, 09:43:51 am
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OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Yep. Too hard and my head rolls off. Too soft and it crackles as my head turns. Maybe it's just because I have an el' cheapo one.  :imaposer:

Al old hiker once told me that for a pillow, all you take with you is a pillow case and stuff any spare clothes / fleece jacket in.  Also doubles up as a dirty washing bag.  Worked well for me when I did the Otter Trail.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: OomD on April 29, 2015, 10:23:55 am
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OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Yep. Too hard and my head rolls off. Too soft and it crackles as my head turns. Maybe it's just because I have an el' cheapo one.  :imaposer:

Al old hiker once told me that for a pillow, all you take with you is a pillow case and stuff any spare clothes / fleece jacket in.  Also doubles up as a dirty washing bag.  Worked well for me when I did the Otter Trail.
Brilliant idea!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 29, 2015, 11:55:00 am
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OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Yep. Too hard and my head rolls off. Too soft and it crackles as my head turns. Maybe it's just because I have an el' cheapo one.  :imaposer:

Al old hiker once told me that for a pillow, all you take with you is a pillow case and stuff any spare clothes / fleece jacket in.  Also doubles up as a dirty washing bag.  Worked well for me when I did the Otter Trail.
Brilliant idea!

It is a brilliant idea to work as a pillow (stuffed with a fleece or so) but definitely not with dirty clothes-especially after a looong sweaty day!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Morph on April 29, 2015, 12:03:13 pm
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OomD - Pap-sak pillow - the secret is to only inflate it about 2/3 - that way you create the indentation that stops the rolling...... Cunning.....  :biggrin:
Yep. Too hard and my head rolls off. Too soft and it crackles as my head turns. Maybe it's just because I have an el' cheapo one.  :imaposer:

Al old hiker once told me that for a pillow, all you take with you is a pillow case and stuff any spare clothes / fleece jacket in.  Also doubles up as a dirty washing bag.  Worked well for me when I did the Otter Trail.
Brilliant idea!

It is a brilliant idea to work as a pillow (stuffed with a fleece or so) but definitely not with dirty clothes-especially after a looong sweaty day!

Why not....then you just pass out quicker and sleep faster?!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Vis Arend on April 29, 2015, 03:27:11 pm
Klymit V:
Still want to try it but know it is basically a thin inflatable mattress. Thus you probably don't need a pump as it is small enough to inflate by mouth. Guess not as comfortable as a standard inflatable but it looks thicker than a self inflating one. As mentioned very small to pack.


About ten huffs and puffs and you good to go, no need for a pump.  Don't let the size fool you, tThese little thin inflatable mattresses are magic.   They are very comfi.   :deal:  Bought my two at Cape Union at R900 a piece.  Had them for almost two years and no problems so far.     
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 29, 2015, 08:13:19 pm
Klymit V:
Still want to try it but know it is basically a thin inflatable mattress. Thus you probably don't need a pump as it is small enough to inflate by mouth. Guess not as comfortable as a standard inflatable but it looks thicker than a self inflating one. As mentioned very small to pack.


About ten huffs and puffs and you good to go, no need for a pump.  Don't let the size fool you, tThese little thin inflatable mattresses are magic.   They are very comfi.   :deal:  Bought my two at Cape Union at R900 a piece.  Had them for almost two years and no problems so far.     

I still want to see if that is comfy for our 'fatties' and 'heavies', but the ATG stretcher with self-inflatable sounds like a winner
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: alanB on April 29, 2015, 08:25:16 pm
Can also vouch for the Klymit Static V  :thumleft:

Packs small, nice and light weight to carry, and its very comfortable - always sleep well on it.

Something to remember about that stretcher.  In cold weather you get very cold from air circulating beneath you.  On a recent ride one of the guys had one of those stretchers and he complained of freezing in the night and not being able to sleep.  Can be solved if you now carry extra blankets, other mattresses etc, but then you start needing a trailer just for your sleeping stuff?

I've camped in winter (like the ride I mentioned above) with my Static V without getting cold, and that's with a super thin Packlite sleeping bag. 

Plus if you really want to, you can buy the thermal version - a bit more bulky and pricey, but basically the same thing.

As someone else said above, the Static V folds up into a package the size of small cycling water bottle!

Worth the money IMO  :thumleft:

As far as a pillow goes, I've used one of those First Ascent inflatable pillows for years, also folds up nice and small is light to carry and I find it very comfortable because you can inflate to just the right size to suite your neck.  Only issue I have is if you are having a restless night, then it does tend to scoot about a bit as you roll over the bottom tends to be a tad slippery.
Title: Re: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: esterhd on April 29, 2015, 08:25:31 pm
Iam using the stretcher and inflatable, which is very comfortabe, for my lean and mean 120kgs. For me the First Ascent self inflating pillow is the winning choice.

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Title: Re: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Tom van Brits on April 30, 2015, 01:25:22 am
Iam using the stretcher and inflatable, which is very comfortabe, for my lean and mean 120kgs. For me the First Ascent self inflating pillow is the winning choice.

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Yes OomD already gave me this advice, all our petite people should be comfy with this combo!
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 30, 2015, 08:19:28 am
Klymit V:
Still want to try it but know it is basically a thin inflatable mattress. Thus you probably don't need a pump as it is small enough to inflate by mouth. Guess not as comfortable as a standard inflatable but it looks thicker than a self inflating one. As mentioned very small to pack.


About ten huffs and puffs and you good to go, no need for a pump.  Don't let the size fool you, tThese little thin inflatable mattresses are magic.   They are very comfi.   :deal:  Bought my two at Cape Union at R900 a piece.  Had them for almost two years and no problems so far.     

Seen two at Cape Union Mart in Menlyn yesterday, but they are now R1400 in the shop.
Just thick enough so that your hip bones don't touch the ground when you lie on your side.
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on April 30, 2015, 08:29:15 am
Klymit V:
Still want to try it but know it is basically a thin inflatable mattress. Thus you probably don't need a pump as it is small enough to inflate by mouth. Guess not as comfortable as a standard inflatable but it looks thicker than a self inflating one. As mentioned very small to pack.


About ten huffs and puffs and you good to go, no need for a pump.  Don't let the size fool you, tThese little thin inflatable mattresses are magic.   They are very comfi.   :deal:  Bought my two at Cape Union at R900 a piece.  Had them for almost two years and no problems so far.     

Seen two at Cape Union Mart in Menlyn yesterday, but they are now R1400 in the shop.
Just thick enough so that your hip bones don't touch the ground when you lie on your side.

You odo get various versions - some are 30mm thick, some up to 50mm - depending on your level of Anorexia.....  ;)
Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: 4xFord on January 31, 2018, 10:20:08 am
Sorry to revive this old thread, I want something to sleep on for a distant camping trip. I like the ATG stretcher but it's expensive at this time.
I want to use a similar setup to what has been mentioned before, ATG with self inflating mattress.
Are their any cheaper alternatives? Any advise on where to buy?

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Title: Re: What do you sleep on
Post by: Heimer on February 11, 2018, 09:21:24 pm
Sorry to revive this old thread, I want something to sleep on for a distant camping trip. I like the ATG stretcher but it's expensive at this time.
I want to use a similar setup to what has been mentioned before, ATG with self inflating mattress.
Are their any cheaper alternatives? Any advise on where to buy?

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Yep - a second hand ATG  ;)