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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC4 400/610/640 & 690 => Topic started by: Ebs on April 27, 2008, 06:15:47 pm

Title: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Ebs on April 27, 2008, 06:15:47 pm
hi any1 know how to improve the ktm 640 crappy lights.  I feel riding with candles would give me more light >:D

any ideas welcome can i get better bulps, HID or have both lights on at high beam setting?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Lito on April 27, 2008, 06:37:02 pm
i pitty you fool.



check out thumpers section in www.advrider.com - you will find the 640 linked thread there.

I bet you all the free petrol in the world, this foolish question has been answered.

Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: JourneyMan on April 27, 2008, 06:47:43 pm
No such thing as a foolish or stupid question when it comes to bikes here. IMO anyway.

Or did you forget the smileys Lito?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :thumright: :thumright: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Lito on April 27, 2008, 06:56:54 pm
No such thing as a foolish or stupid question when it comes to bikes here. IMO anyway.

Or did you forget the smileys Lito?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :thumright: :thumright: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

ag man poplap, jammer man.

check out ebs's signature......

it was a play on that.

read on. eb's is just a meanie cos he wont give us free petrol  :P
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: michnus on April 27, 2008, 07:50:22 pm
For a start go see Harold at Bikegear in PE if you're in that part of EC, I am sure a HID light will work in the 640.
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 27, 2008, 07:53:14 pm
For a start go see Harold at Bikegear in PE if you're in that part of EC, I am sure a HID light will work in the 640.
HID will make the world of difference, your bike uses H1 globes. I am getting a 640 to convert soon, if you want to wait a while I'll let you know how effective it is....
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: JourneyMan on April 27, 2008, 10:27:57 pm
No such thing as a foolish or stupid question when it comes to bikes here. IMO anyway.

Or did you forget the smileys Lito?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :thumright: :thumright: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

ag man poplap, jammer man.

check out ebs's signature......

it was a play on that.

read on. eb's is just a meanie cos he wont give us free petrol  :P

Ok. Me not so sharp.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Pistonpete on April 27, 2008, 10:35:12 pm
Cannot believe it could be that bad..(always room for improvement though!)...checked your eyes lately?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Ebs on April 28, 2008, 07:13:31 am
thanks m8 il keep a watch on here to see if the hid works on the 640

hey lito been going thru the avidrider forum too m8 but it does seem that a person cant get friken decent answer there.

but i saw that a person can have both low beam and high beam on at same time, any1 know how to do that? 
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 28, 2008, 07:22:20 am
thanks m8 il keep a watch on here to see if the hid works on the 640

hey lito been going thru the avidrider forum too m8 but it does seem that a person cant get friken decent answer there.

but i saw that a person can have both low beam and high beam on at same time, any1 know how to do that? 

Part of the installation I have to do, the transition from lo to hi is too slow, lo will need to stay on all the time. A bit of wiring trickery will be needed.....
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Lito on April 28, 2008, 07:51:21 am
thanks m8 il keep a watch on here to see if the hid works on the 640

hey lito been going thru the avidrider forum too m8 but it does seem that a person cant get friken decent answer there.

but i saw that a person can have both low beam and high beam on at same time, any1 know how to do that? 

Sorry Ebs, moenie kak praat nie man.

 ;D

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86958 - this is the index thread for all things 640 - and they are far more technical and involved than any other resource on the planet.

If you cant find your answer there, then the question doesnt exist  ;)

That was in thumpers, on the first page, right near the top, one of the top two stickies

Hope that helps now.
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Uiltjie on April 28, 2008, 09:22:50 am
Ebs, riding back from George on Friday night, I had the first real opportunity to test my HID lights (I did both).

Man, what a difference!  I cannot tell you more how absolutely fantastic it was.  The only problem I had, was that it being a long weekend, I had millions of cars coming from the front, and although my lights aren't set to high, about 50% of oncoming traffic flashed at me, even at my low beam!

When I got home, I had to take my cage to town to a party, and an e-class has great lights, I reached for the hi beam ever so often, meaning that I was looking for more lights, as my eyes got used to the bike's lights.....makes you think doesn't it?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Ebs on April 28, 2008, 05:39:38 pm
how much the HID go for uil?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: buzzlightyear on April 28, 2008, 06:21:15 pm

Man, what a difference!  I cannot tell you more how absolutely fantastic it was.  The only problem I had, was that it being a long weekend, I had millions of cars coming from the front, and although my lights aren't set to high, about 50% of oncoming traffic flashed at me, even at my low beam!


Isn't this what that UK report linked by someone said, the beam strays all over the place, that's why they flash you?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 28, 2008, 06:40:19 pm
There are probably HID kits that 'stray all over the place', but from my experience the kits supplied my BikeGear give a very sharp definitive beam, the end and beginning of the beam is very sharp and defined, there are no stray beams that I've seen.
Oncoming vehicles probably flash guys with HID lights because of the brightness of the light, I've parked my car (BMW fitted with BikeGear HID lights) next to another car that as factory equiped HID lights (Mercedes Benz) and see no difference in intensity. they are both very bright. What makes a difference though is the HID is a very close simulation of actual daylight, so a person's eyes readjust very quickly after the car/bike has passed.
The normal Halogen globe tends to leave a 'residual' after the car/bike has passed, in other words the human eye takes longer to readjust with Halogen lights.
I recommend that if you fit HID lights to your bike, adjust the headlight down a little.
I have HID lights on my 1150 GSA, KTM and my car, and very seldom get flashed.
Before you fit HID lights to a car or bike, first mark on the garage door or a wall where your Halogen lights shine, then after the HID's have been fitted, check them again, making sure the bike/car is in exactly the same position as before, and check them again, often you will have to adjust them down slightly.
As a matter of interest, mark the outline of the Halogen beam, then compare to the HID beam, there should be no difference. You will also notice a much sharper definition.
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Uiltjie on April 28, 2008, 07:03:31 pm
There are probably HID kits that 'stray all over the place', but from my experience the kits supplied my BikeGear give a very sharp definitive beam, the end and beginning of the beam is very sharp and defined, there are no stray beams that I've seen.
Oncoming vehicles probably flash guys with HID lights because of the brightness of the light, I've parked my car (BMW fitted with BikeGear HID lights) next to another car that as factory equiped HID lights (Mercedes Benz) and see no difference in intensity. they are both very bright. What makes a difference though is the HID is a very close simulation of actual daylight, so a person's eyes readjust very quickly after the car/bike has passed.
The normal Halogen globe tends to leave a 'residual' after the car/bike has passed, in other words the human eye takes longer to readjust with Halogen lights.
I recommend that if you fit HID lights to your bike, adjust the headlight down a little.
I have HID lights on my 1150 GSA, KTM and my car, and very seldom get flashed.
Before you fit HID lights to a car or bike, first mark on the garage door or a wall where your Halogen lights shine, then after the HID's have been fitted, check them again, making sure the bike/car is in exactly the same position as before, and check them again, often you will have to adjust them down slightly.
As a matter of interest, mark the outline of the Halogen beam, then compare to the HID beam, there should be no difference. You will also notice a much sharper definition.

+1.  Exactly
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: krazy-eyes on April 28, 2008, 07:36:22 pm
bike gear?

website?
address?
phone?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: shark_za on April 28, 2008, 07:47:17 pm
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Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 28, 2008, 08:58:21 pm
bike gear?

website?
address?
phone?

I also keep stock....and would lurve to get a 640 to fit lights onto.....Or you can fit them yourself and let me know how effective they are....
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: krazy-eyes on April 29, 2008, 08:27:51 pm
bike gear?

website?
address?
phone?

I also keep stock....and would lurve to get a 640 to fit lights onto.....Or you can fit them yourself and let me know how effective they are....

tell you what, i'll let you use my 640 as a "test" bike.
you give me the HID upgrade and i will come round everytime you want to demo the lights to a customer.

deal?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 29, 2008, 10:19:14 pm
bike gear?

website?
address?
phone?

I also keep stock....and would lurve to get a 640 to fit lights onto.....Or you can fit them yourself and let me know how effective they are....

tell you what, i'll let you use my 640 as a "test" bike.
you give me the HID upgrade and i will come round everytime you want to demo the lights to a customer.

deal?

Are you saying I must supply and fit HID lights for free?
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: krazy-eyes on April 30, 2008, 10:02:55 am
yup  ;)

you supply lights for free, and i'll make the bike available for free
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Adventurer on April 30, 2008, 03:02:18 pm
 :middlefinger: Think this is charity? :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Beter lights on ktm 640
Post by: Lito on May 01, 2008, 08:09:31 am
 :toothy12: :toothy12: :toothy12:

I was waiting for that Kurt....... ;D ;D ;D ;D