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Title: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 11, 2015, 10:58:04 am
Yes, the 2016 season, according to the official calendar started on 10 November 2015 with the first tests of the new bikes, new rules, new tires, etc.

Teams are keen to test their 2016 bikes on the new Michelin tires,  especially with the slightly larger 17 inch front wheel.   

They also need to get to understand the standard ("control") ECU that will be used by all bikes.   Honda is currently ruling the roost with Suzuki, Ducati and Yamaha knocking at the door.   In typical modern day Ducati style,  their 2016 Desmosidici wasn't ready for testing and the factory riders used their 2015 bikes.

Some interesting changes:

- Bigger front wheel:  The front wheel goes from 16,5 to 17 inches.    Most riders did not like this change, however it seems to suit the Ducati riders.  Still.  Early days.
- Control ECU is introduced.  This ECU is supplied by Dorna and all bikes will use the same ECU.  Most riders did not like tjis one bit.  Rossi and Marquez both described it as a huge step backward, but Rossi believes it will be better for close racing.
-  All bikes will be allowed 22 liters of fuel.   Up from 20 for the factory bikes and down from 24 for the "need help"  bikes like Suzuki and Ducati.
 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 11, 2015, 03:46:17 pm
Cal is staying with HRC Honda.. I was hoping he would get a factory bike.. but glad he is staying with Honda
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 11, 2015, 05:09:56 pm
Cal is staying with HRC Honda.. I was hoping he would get a factory bike.. but glad he is staying with Honda

Would love to see him on a factory bike.   Next year,  in theory,  the performance should be very similar as they will all use the control ECU supplied by Dorna.   It levels the playing field dramatically.  

We often hear VR,  DP,  MM and JL described as "aliens".   There are a few I believe will kick some good alien posterior if they had the same level of bike.   Cal and Ianone being 2.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 11, 2015, 06:02:24 pm
The "one ECU for all" is a development killer, and should be in beginners races, not in MotoGP.
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Post by: Malmoer on November 11, 2015, 06:27:22 pm
Agreed!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 11, 2015, 07:18:06 pm
The "one ECU for all" is a development killer, and should be in beginners races, not in MotoGP.

There are many such perceived development killers in MotoGP already.   Most have been there for some years.   This control ECU is just the latest in a long  line.

Adapting your bike to the tires manufactured by a single manufacturer is another.  

Using a prescribed size front wheel 16,5 inch is another.   (17 from next year)

Running with only the tires that the manufacturer chose to bring to the track,  yet another.  

 Designing and building your engine around the prescribed bore and stroke,  same thing.  

Using only the prescribed size front brake discs.  

Building the frame to prescribed specs.

They even added rules that describe what "wings"  can look like for 2016.

In my experience it doesn't stop development,  but rather boost it.  They have reached a stage where the ECU on the Repsol Honda's,  cost double what the bike cost.   Same with the Moviestar Yamahas.   Instead of developing the bike,  they just threw more nerds at it.
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Post by: dirtyXT on November 11, 2015, 08:59:02 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Aquatic on November 12, 2015, 12:05:15 am
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Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 12, 2015, 01:20:53 am
The "one ECU for all" is a development killer, and should be in beginners races, not in MotoGP.

I agree
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on November 12, 2015, 04:35:37 am
 They have reached a stage where the ECU on the Repsol Honda's,  cost double what the bike cost.   Same with the Moviestar Yamahas.   Instead of developing the bike,  they just threw more nerds at it.

If this is the case it is probably a good thing to standardise ECU's otherwise it will always be a two-horse race between Yamaha and Honda. Non-factory teams can't compete because the costs have become prohibitive, even perhaps for a manufacturer like Suzuki. In the "old" days anybody who was able to tune a two-stroke well, had a halfway decent frame and a rider who could pin it, was in with a chance.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 12, 2015, 09:11:13 am
 They have reached a stage where the ECU on the Repsol Honda's,  cost double what the bike cost.   Same with the Moviestar Yamahas.   Instead of developing the bike,  they just threw more nerds at it.

If this is the case it is probably a good thing to standardise ECU's otherwise it will always be a two-horse race between Yamaha and Honda. Non-factory teams can't compete because the costs have become prohibitive, even perhaps for a manufacturer like Suzuki. In the "old" days anybody who was able to tune a two-stroke well, had a halfway decent frame and a rider who could pin it, was in with a chance.

It should improve the competition at least.  As it stands, Ducati and Suzuki as well as the Satellite Teams (Honda, Yamaha and Ducati), the Customer Bikes (Honda and Ducatis) and the Customer teams using the Yamaha engine are no competition compared to the factory Hondas and Yamahas. 

History have shown that development really happens when you block the easier avenues to obtain performance, such as the ECU. 





Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: MartV on November 12, 2015, 10:27:21 am
Can't friggen wait for 2016, first race, gloves off clean slate and all to ride for.  :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on November 12, 2015, 10:34:37 am
The "one ECU for all" is a development killer, and should be in beginners races, not in MotoGP.

There are many such perceived development killers in MotoGP already.   Most have been there for some years.   This control ECU is just the latest in a long  line.

Adapting your bike to the tires manufactured by a single manufacturer is another.  

Using a prescribed size front wheel 16,5 inch is another.   (17 from next year)

Running with only the tires that the manufacturer chose to bring to the track,  yet another.  

 Designing and building your engine around the prescribed bore and stroke,  same thing.  

Using only the prescribed size front brake discs.  

Building the frame to prescribed specs.

They even added rules that describe what "wings"  can look like for 2016.

In my experience it doesn't stop development,  but rather boost it.  They have reached a stage where the ECU on the Repsol Honda's,  cost double what the bike cost.   Same with the Moviestar Yamahas.   Instead of developing the bike,  they just threw more nerds at it.
The concern from DORNA and the FIM is that the bikes are getting faster than the tracks were designed for. They are trying to slow the bikes down and limit development.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 12, 2015, 10:49:37 am
In my experience it doesn't stop development,  but rather boost it.  They have reached a stage where the ECU on the Repsol Honda's,  cost double what the bike cost.   Same with the Moviestar Yamahas.   Instead of developing the bike,  they just threw more nerds at it.
The concern from DORNA and the FIM is that the bikes are getting faster than the tracks were designed for. They are trying to slow the bikes down and limit development.

Not sure that is the actual reason  as they are doing the same for World SBK and the smaller classes, so my feeling is that it is more related to equalise competition.  MotoGP was close to death 3 years ago and got a huge boost with the CRT bikes and later Open Class bikes they introduced.  We also see that with the current rules being introduced, other makers are joining, like Suzuki, Aprilia and KTM.  

At the Valencia tests with the control ECU, new Michelin tires and new front wheel size, the times, after just two days, are basically on par with the past weekend's race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 13, 2015, 12:59:55 pm
We know Brad Binder is confirmed the "senior" rider for the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team, basically the KTM factory team next year.  He will be joined by Bo Bendsneyder who moves over from the Red Bull Rookies Cup.

Just announced is that Darryn Binder, younger brother to Brad, will again compete on a Mahindra in the World Wide Race team.  He will be joined by Karel Hanika as team mate. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on November 13, 2015, 03:07:02 pm
Cal is staying with HRC Honda.. I was hoping he would get a factory bike.. but glad he is staying with Honda

Would love to see him on a factory bike.   Next year,  in theory,  the performance should be very similar as they will all use the control ECU supplied by Dorna.   It levels the playing field dramatically.   


Interesting...

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on November 13, 2015, 03:08:36 pm
We know Brad Binder is confirmed the "senior" rider for the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team, basically the KTM factory team next year.  He will be joined by Bo Bendsneyder who moves over from the Red Bull Rookies Cup.

Just announced is that Darryn Binder, younger brother to Brad, will again compete on a Mahindra in the World Wide Race team.  He will be joined by Karel Hanika as team mate. 

Holding thumbs and all other appendages for Brad and his boet.

What you think are the odds of him moving up to Moto2 in 2017?

Would probably need a good sponsor?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: evansv on November 13, 2015, 03:52:25 pm
Go Brad & Darryn!!

Is there a race in which Karel Hanika didn't crash this last season?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 13, 2015, 04:12:15 pm
Go Brad & Darryn!!

Is there a race in which Karel Hanika didn't crash this last season?


Very few,  if any and he was the third rider for the KTM team,  sucking resources away from De Oliviera and Brad.   He did not belong in a factory team.



Holding thumbs and all other appendages for Brad and his boet.

What you think are the odds of him moving up to Moto2 in 2017?

Would probably need a good sponsor?

I reckon he will go MotoGP.   It is the next logical step.   Brad is very popular with the team's as he is a very nice young man.   Old man Ajo, owner of the Moto3 KTM team likes him a lot and he owns the Moto2 team with who Zarco became Moto2 champion.   He may well "promote"  Brad in 2017.

Of course,  the above is just conjecture.   If he is top 3 in the 2016 Moto3 championship,  he will receive many offers from Moto2 teams.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on November 13, 2015, 04:21:59 pm
Holy shit, imagine having an SA rider competing in the big time!!!

Eish, I hope he has better luck than in the past.

Certainly has the skills.

And yes, a real good guy too
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 13, 2015, 05:33:15 pm
He is a very skilled rider and will go far with a bit of luck and sponsorship.   I have no doubt about that.

Darryn is very good as well but a tad wild.   I think of them as Brad (JL99) and Darryn (Simoncelli).   

Hoping to see one,  or both in MotoGP within the next few years.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 18, 2015, 08:52:47 am
During a two day testing spree for the Moto3 crowd at Valencia, Brad Binder was consistently the fastest rider and his average time over a total of 94 laps was fastest of any rider.  Lekker Brad! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: evansv on November 18, 2015, 06:57:09 pm
Very cool :thumleft: Go Brad!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 18, 2015, 06:57:19 pm


What you think are the odds of him moving up to Moto2 in 2017?



Interesting,  Mr. Ajo the owner of the Red Bull Moto 3 Team as well as the Ajo Racing Moto 2 team with which Zarco won the Moto 2 championship had Brad ride Zarco's Moto2 bike for a complete session during testing at Valencia today.



Brad loved the time on what he described as a "beast".
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on November 18, 2015, 08:59:22 pm
Glad he is getting noticed by the right people!

My hart pomp custard!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 20, 2015, 12:21:25 pm
#41 Brad Binder and brother #40 Darryn Binder.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on November 25, 2015, 02:43:03 pm
Stacey Stoner is back with Ducati as the test rider and ambassador. He might also do a few wild card rides during the year:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225374/1/official-casey-stoner-returns-to-ducati.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225374/1/official-casey-stoner-returns-to-ducati.html)


I can't wait for next year: Stoner, Rossi, Marquez, Jorge and Pedrosa

Oh shit I am so excited I think I just wet my pants  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 25, 2015, 05:56:50 pm
Stoner may well enter a race or two as wildcard,  but I doubt that he will be serious competition for the regular riders.   Carlos Checa and Troy Bayliss only manage good average results in WSBK this year.   It would be great to see though as competition should be closer.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on November 25, 2015, 06:32:10 pm
I didn't see Checa this year. Biaggi did very well getting on the podium.

If Stoner does Philip Island he will go very well. He basically owns that track, no one even came close to him there.

Ducati goes very well at Mugelo, maybe because its their home track and they do millionn of laps testing there. So Stoner could go there and do something special.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 26, 2015, 12:27:49 pm
I didn't see Checa this year. Biaggi did very well getting on the podium.

If Stoner does Philip Island he will go very well. He basically owns that track, no one even came close to him there.

Ducati goes very well at Mugelo, maybe because its their home track and they do millionn of laps testing there. So Stoner could go there and do something special.


Apologies.  I meant Biaggi, not Checa.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Africamike on November 27, 2015, 04:57:41 pm
Keen to see how Nicky Hayden does now that he moved on to WSBK........
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on December 02, 2015, 05:54:25 am
Interesting times ahead with the new software. From Motomatters:

With the electronics now more crude, engines are becoming more difficult to control. This, in turn, is benefiting Ducati, the Desmosedici having a more user-friendly nature, despite its massive horsepower. This had meant Ducati had fewer problems with the electronics, as Andrea Dovizioso explained. "We didn't have any big problem, but it's different from what we use before," the Italian said. "You have to ride very smoothly, especially in the middle of the corner when you have the maximum angle. There is less control than what we used before." This again should also benefit the Yamaha, once they take to the track.

It certainly didn't help Honda. The aggressive nature of the RC213V and HRC's lack of experience with the unified software saw Marc Márquez thrown violently from his bike early on Friday. "The highside was really strange," Márquez said. "Really strange, because it was not a corner that you open the gas more, you just keep the gas steady and in one point I lose the rear really quickly. This never happened to me in MotoGP, I never had this experience, but now I was more careful in this corner." The place where Márquez crashed was fast, Turn 3 or Doohan corner. "I went in with some gas. I was consistent with the gas, but in one moment I lose the rear wheel in a really aggressive way, and then I fly! Maybe we have to understand better these new electronics," he said.

That crash happened with Honda's new engine, which was an improvement, but was still aggressive and powerful. After three days of testing, both Dani Pedrosa and Marc Márquez felt the new engine had more potential, but it was still not completely where it needed to be. They were both uncertain whether Honda had enough time to build a new engine ready for the Sepang test in early February, but there were still some avenues open for exploration. "We must work on the mechanical side to try to avoid some problems, because by electronics, some problems we have will be difficult," Márquez said. "Honda must work on the mechanical side, to try to be smoother, to try to gain on the acceleration."

More at https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/28/jerez_motogp_test_round_up_redding_revea.html
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: evansv on December 02, 2015, 06:04:03 am
Interesting!

Thanks KK for sharing :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 02, 2015, 07:04:56 am
The "crude" new one-size-fits-all ECU is a big step backwards, and unlike tyres, bore/stroke rules, etc, and just another step in the new way of doing things, where there
should be no losers, only winners.
And those that complain that GP's without these nanny rules would just be a 2 horse affair would do well to look at the modern history of GP racing, and notice that it has always just been a 2 horse race any way. Yamaha and Honda, with frighteningly occasionally a Pepsi Suzuki, or a Bike Hospital Ducati.
If you enjoy one-brand racing, watch the 600 class clones, good racing there, but what bike do you root for there?
For me, part of the package is the manufacturer, this is MotoGP, not BMW Boxer cup.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on December 02, 2015, 08:47:30 am
The "crude" new one-size-fits-all ECU is a big step backwards, and unlike tyres, bore/stroke rules, etc, and just another step in the new way of doing things, where there
should be no losers, only winners.
And those that complain that GP's without these nanny rules would just be a 2 horse affair would do well to look at the modern history of GP racing, and notice that it has always just been a 2 horse race any way. Yamaha and Honda, with frighteningly occasionally a Pepsi Suzuki, or a Bike Hospital Ducati.
If you enjoy one-brand racing, watch the 600 class clones, good racing there, but what bike do you root for there?
For me, part of the package is the manufacturer, this is MotoGP, not BMW Boxer cup.



Ja, Dan, I agree with you to some extent. Of course part of the package is the manufacturer which is why I don't really watch MotoGP2. As a Yamaha and Kawa fan I have even bought Delmas Chicken and smoked Marlboro's to root for the brands.

The problem remains that racing at the very top level has become a very expensive affair with nobody else having the resources of Honda and Yamaha. There is really no place for a privateer anymore (unlike the heyday of the 2-strokes when the only higher maths you needed was to work out the length of sound waves in the expansion box and tinker with it until it fucked off) Even satellite teams have since become also-rans. While electronics is already becoming part of everyday biking (ja, ja racing breeds the product), smaller teams simply can't compete when the electronic package is the biggest part of the overall costs. Someone pointed out in one of the threads that the Honda electronics cost more than the bike itself.

In this respect I am all for leveling the playing field. The top factory teams will always attract the top riders because of big time salaries, but everybody else should have a sporting chance within the boundaries of financial restraints.

Remember when BMW ruled the roost in premier class racing before WWII until the FIM banned supercharging?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on December 02, 2015, 08:50:15 am
Another thought: If electronics could have made the TZ750 rideable to everyone, would that have been right?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bensien on December 03, 2015, 07:56:59 am
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on December 03, 2015, 09:16:56 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bensien on December 03, 2015, 09:21:34 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on December 03, 2015, 09:44:22 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on December 04, 2015, 08:28:04 am
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.

Ja, just look at what he did for Ducati...

:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on December 04, 2015, 10:49:15 am
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.
Sorry, but Rossi can't develop a cold, neither can Lorenzo for that matter. Their current bikes and gear boxes were developed by Colin Edwards, known to be the best development rider in Moto GP.
I just don't see Suzuki forking out that kind of big moola for Rossi and there certainly no obvious guys to step into the factory team, YET.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on December 04, 2015, 05:45:15 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.

Ja, just look at what he did for Ducati...

:laughing7:

Let me rephrase.   He is good at development for a team who actually takes input from the riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on December 04, 2015, 05:48:45 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.
Sorry, but Rossi can't develop a cold, neither can Lorenzo for that matter. Their current bikes and gear boxes were developed by Colin Edwards, known to be the best development rider in Moto GP.
I just don't see Suzuki forking out that kind of big moola for Rossi and there certainly no obvious guys to step into the factory team, YET.

Well,  there you have me.   Colin Edwards known to be the best development rider in MotoGP?   Known by who?   Also,  to say Ross is useless at developing a bike, makes no sense as he is known to be a good developer.   Note!   Not once did I say he is the best.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: KaTooMatt on January 11, 2016, 09:58:57 am
He is credited with being the originator of important ideas and changes that first made Yamaha competitive in the 4 stroke era when he first joined them from Honda.

Not the role of somebody who does not know how to develop a bike. Who would of thought that changing the firing sequence of an engine would make a bike more balanced and easier to handle. Not many riders would have the know how or confidence to push that kind of change through the engineering team. Rossi has been acknowledged as one of the riders with most technical knowledge and ability to convey what he wants to the engineering team for many years. Maybe Colin can too.

To be totally real Valentino and Schumacher are the only 2 racers to have had the courage to leave a winning team and go to a losing team and make it work. Schumacher took his whole team to Ferrari. Valentino did not have a Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne to take with him. He still got the Yamaha to compete a lot thought he would fail at the time. He can develop a bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: IceCreamMan on January 11, 2016, 10:14:00 am
He is credited with being the originator of important ideas and changes that first made Yamaha competitive in the 4 stroke era when he first joined them from Honda.

Not the role of somebody who does not know how to develop a bike. Who would of thought that changing the firing sequence of an engine would make a bike more balanced and easier to handle. Not many riders would have the know how or confidence to push that kind of change through the engineering team. Rossi has been acknowledged as one of the riders with most technical knowledge and ability to convey what he wants to the engineering team for many years. Maybe Colin can too.

To be totally real Valentino and Schumacher are the only 2 racers to have had the courage to leave a winning team and go to a losing team and make it work. Schumacher took his whole team to Ferrari. Valentino did not have a Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne to take with him. He still got the Yamaha to compete a lot thought he would fail at the time. He can develop a bike.

not so, rossi took his team to Yamaha as well
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on January 11, 2016, 10:54:33 am
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.


And bringing in truckloads of sponsorship cash!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on January 11, 2016, 01:58:16 pm
Final list of concessions for 2016 MotoGP Premier Class:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: punisher on January 11, 2016, 03:28:31 pm
i too am a "good developer"
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on January 18, 2016, 05:19:45 pm
Oh, you pretty things

Yamaha unveiled the 2016 M1's today

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on January 18, 2016, 06:54:44 pm
Just looking at the position of the front sprocket - what's below it in terms of engine?

Anyone got a pic of one of these GP motors?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 18, 2016, 08:19:59 pm
He is credited with being the originator of important ideas and changes that first made Yamaha competitive in the 4 stroke era when he first joined them from Honda.

Not the role of somebody who does not know how to develop a bike. Who would of thought that changing the firing sequence of an engine would make a bike more balanced and easier to handle. Not many riders would have the know how or confidence to push that kind of change through the engineering team. Rossi has been acknowledged as one of the riders with most technical knowledge and ability to convey what he wants to the engineering team for many years. Maybe Colin can too.

To be totally real Valentino and Schumacher are the only 2 racers to have had the courage to leave a winning team and go to a losing team and make it work. Schumacher took his whole team to Ferrari. Valentino did not have a Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne to take with him. He still got the Yamaha to compete a lot thought he would fail at the time. He can develop a bike.

This is quite a common misconception. Rossi rode the full 2003 season for Honda, then won the 1st race of the 2004 season on Yamaha. So he "developed" this bike for Yamaha over christmas 2003 so the Yamaha can be "competitive?? :eek7:
People seem to forget that 2004 and Rossi was not the first time that Yamaha has won Grand Prix's. Rossi got handed a winner from Yamaha, and I say this as a bit of a Rossi fan.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on January 19, 2016, 10:51:06 am
Ive recently cancelled DSTV.. JUST to make sure, I have 3 friends with the moto GP race days and times stapled to their fridges so at least one of them will have a spare couch available at that time
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on January 19, 2016, 01:21:53 pm
The Yamaha Factory racers for 2016 all together.  See Sheridan Morias shown by the red arrow who will be racing for the Yamaha Austria Racing Team in endurance racing again.  I wonder if Rossi asked Shez for his autograph?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on January 19, 2016, 01:34:34 pm
Looks like Rossi's contract with Yamaha will end next year. He is currently in talks with Suzuki

His contract was to end of 2016 season.   I doubt he will go to Suzuki,  or even continue in MotoGP. Getting a tad long in the tooth.   My guess is really cars.

http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/ (http://news.superscommesse.it/motori/motogp/2015/12/motogp-rossi-suzuki-probabile-mossa-per-il-2017-119899/)

Not saying it is not being written about.   Just saying I doubt it.  Just this past weekend Rossi apparently indicated that he would like to move to rally.   Of course,  not dates were mentioned. Suzuki will do great to get him for a year or so as he is extremely good at development.
One season would help
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: toucan on January 20, 2016, 06:33:27 pm
Just looking at the position of the front sprocket - what's below it in terms of engine?

Anyone got a pic of one of these GP motors?

suspension perhaps? ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on January 21, 2016, 08:11:18 am
Does the gearbox cassette not slot in under there?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on January 21, 2016, 08:29:42 am
The Yamaha Factory racers for 2016 all together.  See Sheridan Morias shown by the red arrow who will be racing for the Yamaha Austria Racing Team in endurance racing again.  I wonder if Rossi asked Shez for his autograph?



See that skelm Rossi taking centre stage on the pic while the reigning world champion gets sidelined to the left. Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: punisher on January 21, 2016, 09:37:58 am
The Yamaha Factory racers for 2016 all together.  See Sheridan Morias shown by the red arrow who will be racing for the Yamaha Austria Racing Team in endurance racing again.  I wonder if Rossi asked Shez for his autograph?



See that skelm Rossi taking centre stage on the pic while the reigning world champion gets sidelined to the left. Interesting times ahead.

 actually  "the world champ" is standing right next to the BOSS , whilst the "skelm" is respectfully "one oke away "
 :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on January 24, 2016, 09:19:34 am
After years of talking about it I think this year I'm going to pull the trigger and go watch the opening round at Losail Qatar. You only pass this way once
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on January 24, 2016, 12:06:09 pm
So, Honda, after announcing that their telemetry proves that Rossi did kick MM and that they would make it publically available never did make it available.  Now they have made it available to the governing body, FIM.  Between Honda and the FIM they decided not to make this info available at all.  So much for transparency

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/226226/1/honda-fim-wont-release-rossimarquez-clash-data.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/226226/1/honda-fim-wont-release-rossimarquez-clash-data.html)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 25, 2016, 08:35:47 pm
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on January 26, 2016, 07:02:27 am
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.

Indeed.

Looking forward to this season.   Seems the manufacturers are all struggling to some extend with the new tires and ECU.   Some describe the changes as the biggest in a single season,  since the 2S to 4S change.   The team adapting fastest,  riders and techies ,  will have a good advantage.  

Honda:  Struggling with ECU not controlling a wild engine. Not enough 2016 bikes ready for the satelite teams to also test.
Yamaha:  Struggling with tire feel and feedback.  Not sure if 2016 chassis is better than the 2015 one.
Ducati:  Very quiet.  No news.
Suzuki:  Happy.  They have used a base ECU last year already.
Aprilia:  Feel they are making progress ,  but still way off in performance.
KTM:  Will only join in 2017, but tests seems. promising and they now have more test riders than anyone.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on January 26, 2016, 10:09:06 am
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.

Indeed.

Looking forward to this season.   Seems the manufacturers are all struggling to some extend with the new tires and ECU.   Some describe the changes as the biggest in a single season,  since the 2S to 4S change.   The team adapting fastest,  riders and techies ,  will have a good advantage.  

Honda:  Struggling with ECU not controlling a wild engine. Not enough 2016 bikes ready for the satelite teams to also test.
Yamaha:  Struggling with tire feel and feedback.  Not sure if 2016 chassis is better than the 2015 one.
Ducati:  Very quiet.  No news. KC is testing for them, no feedback, even Italian press are grumpy
Suzuki:  Happy.  They have used a base ECU last year already.
Aprilia:  Feel they are making progress ,  but still way off in performance. 2016 bike will miss the first two testing sessions
KTM:  Will only join in 2017, but tests seems. promising and they now have more test riders than anyone. MCN reckons this the best "new" bike to be seen since the start of the 4T era
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on January 26, 2016, 06:32:26 pm
Not sure what they mean with "best",  but it is clearly a company on a mission.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 01, 2016, 10:36:57 am
Ducati doing surprisingly well at the Sepang tests. Oh, wait, the ECU and software supplied and coded by Magneti Marelli engineers while the Michelins are manufatured right next door.  ;)

Not to worry, at the time of writing Lorenzo still posting the fastest laps.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 01, 2016, 01:27:07 pm
Day 1 testing from Sepang completed.

Fastest was Lorenzo with Rossi 2nd fastest.  Amazing thing is, with new tires and Dorna supplied ECU, Lorenzo's fastest time was 2.00.684.  His fastest during [practise and the race at Sepang last year was 2.00.606.  Rossi's time is also with thousands of his fastest at Sepang last year.

Behind the two factory Yamahas, we see Pedrosa, Petrucci, Ianone, Barbera and Marquez.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 01, 2016, 02:13:06 pm
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 01, 2016, 04:44:50 pm
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on February 01, 2016, 08:17:56 pm
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 02, 2016, 05:46:20 am
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.

Yip, also looking forward to it. Will answer some questions about how good he really was/is. The Ducati's are running well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 02, 2016, 06:00:23 am
They red flagged the first testing session after Loris Baz came off at around 300km/h. Some serious and sudden mechanical failure on the Ducati (engine/gearbox/tyre - they're still investigating). At the time Stoner was circulating 11th fastest.

Scheme all the Ducati riders will be a bit nervous now.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on February 02, 2016, 06:07:54 am
Yip session red flagged until cause of crash know. Seen pics on Twitter. lucky it seems to walk away from that 1
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on February 02, 2016, 06:12:05 am
Back on track. Ducati currently 1st and second and not the Ducatis you'd expect. Patrucci and Barbera. Dam I can't wait for Qatar
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on February 02, 2016, 06:20:57 am
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.

Yip, also looking forward to it. Will answer some questions about how good he really was/is. The Ducati's are running well.

Think those questions were answered long ago.... Very very good indeed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on February 02, 2016, 11:03:57 am
With two hours left in the test. Stoner is 1.6 seconds off the pace of the front.

1.   =   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   0.095s   [Lap 9/31]
2.   =   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   0.387s   +0.292s   [6/7]
3.   =   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   0.833s   +0.738s   [8/17]
4.   =   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   0.843s   +0.748s   [5/31]
5.   =   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   1.049s   +0.954s   [3/26]
6.   =   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16)   2m   1.052s   +0.957s   [9/27]
7.   =   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   1.421s   +1.326s   [4/33]
8.   =   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   1.475s   +1.380s   [4/25]
9.   =   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   1.604s   +1.509s   [16/26]
10.   =   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   1.644s   +1.549s   [7/23]
11.   =   Casey Stoner   ITA   Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   1.699s   +1.604s   [10/22]
12.   =   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16)   2m   1.723s   +1.628s   [12/19]
13.   =   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   1.992s   +1.897s   [6/14]
14.   =   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   2.248s   +2.153s   [20/36]
15.   =   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   2m   2.328s   +2.233s   [5/28]
16.   =   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   2m   2.331s   +2.236s   [4/28]
17.   =   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   2.372s   +2.277s   [4/30]
18.   =   Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   2.611s   +2.516s   [12/12]
19.   =   Katsuyuki Nakasuga   JPN   Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1)   2m   2.710s   +2.615s   [4/32]
20.   =   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   2.745s   +2.650s   [8/21]
21.   =   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   2.876s   +2.781s   [4/30]
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 02, 2016, 11:14:59 am
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.

You are out by 101 years exactly. In 2005 KTM, together with team Roberts, supplied engines to go into Proton KR chassis. The engines were dismal failures. leaving team Roberts with nothing.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 02, 2016, 12:13:07 pm
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.

You are out by 101 years exactly. In 2005 KTM, together with team Roberts, supplied engines to go into Proton KR chassis. The engines were dismal failures. leaving team Roberts with nothing.

Wow!  Yeah, I remember that now.  Completely forgot about that.

I wonder if it is the reason why KTM is so slow and deliberate in coming back into MGP this time round.  They seem to be really doing their homework.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on February 02, 2016, 01:35:49 pm
Any ideas why Crutchlow seems slightly more off the pace than expected? Electronics maybe?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: MartV on February 02, 2016, 01:38:23 pm
Thanks for the updates guys,  :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 02, 2016, 03:53:21 pm
Any ideas why Crutchlow seems slightly more off the pace than expected? Electronics maybe?

They are now all running the same electronics supplied by Dorna,  so unlikely to be the issue.

He may well be on last years bike,  or using last years engine.   Due to the fact that they need to sort 2 big changes,  tires and ECU,  some teams are concentrating on one thing at a time.

Edit:  He is running a 2015 spec engine.

Edit again:  He is running a 2015 "Evolution" engine which is a 2015 spec engine slightly detuned to make it a tad calmer.  They are obviously concentrating on testing the new ECU and / or tires.  Or MM93 is hogging all the 2016 engines!   ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on February 02, 2016, 04:02:58 pm
 :thumleft:  :sip: I'm enjoying this thread!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on February 02, 2016, 09:43:59 pm
Any ideas why Crutchlow seems slightly more off the pace than expected? Electronics maybe?

They are now all running the same electronics supplied by Dorna,  so unlikely to be the issue.

He may well be on last years bike,  or using last years engine.   Due to the fact that they need to sort 2 big changes,  tires and ECU,  some teams are concentrating on one thing at a time.

Edit:  He is running a 2015 spec engine.

Edit again:  He is running a 2015 "Evolution" engine which is a 2015 spec engine slightly detuned to make it a tad calmer.  They are obviously concentrating on testing the new ECU and / or tires.  Or MM93 is hogging all the 2016 engines!   ;)
MM and DP are running the new engines, apparently not enough motors built as yet and then being the satellite rider Cal has to do the donkey work that the midget Spaniards won't do .... no more Stoner to do the testing.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on February 02, 2016, 10:28:43 pm
Stoner seems to be running the 2015 bike with different areodynamics?

"Although it was initially planned that Stoner would ride for just one day this week, Ducati has confirmed he will be back on track for Wednesday's final day. The #27 is set to continue with the GP15, before making the switch to the new bike"
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2016, 06:48:39 am
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.

You are out by 101 years exactly. In 2005 KTM, together with team Roberts, supplied engines to go into Proton KR chassis. The engines were dismal failures. leaving team Roberts with nothing.

Wow!  Yeah, I remember that now.  Completely forgot about that.

I wonder if it is the reason why KTM is so slow and deliberate in coming back into MGP this time round.  They seem to be really doing their homework.



Yes, after the 2005 eye-opener, they really made sure that they come to the track prepared.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2016, 06:54:39 am
Still such a sad scenario, in our day and age of absolute technology, that the PREMIER class of all racing sees the engines detuned around a common ECU, instead of developing electronics to get the most out of a top design engine.

WTF, look at the last 40 years of motorcycle GP's, and it has almost exclusively been a Yamaha/Honda affair. Before you know it, this sort of ruling will see Vuka's mixing it
in with champions like Yamaha/Honda.
If you struggle to compete, go do your homework until you can, or continue focussing on the D/S market. :xxbah:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on February 03, 2016, 09:43:00 am
Still such a sad scenario, in our day and age of absolute technology, that the PREMIER class of all racing sees the engines detuned around a common ECU, instead of developing electronics to get the most out of a top design engine.

WTF, look at the last 40 years of motorcycle GP's, and it has almost exclusively been a Yamaha/Honda affair. Before you know it, this sort of ruling will see Vuka's mixing it
in with champions like Yamaha/Honda.
If you struggle to compete, go do your homework until you can, or continue focussing on the D/S market. :xxbah:

+1  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 12:11:16 pm
Still such a sad scenario, in our day and age of absolute technology, that the PREMIER class of all racing sees the engines detuned around a common ECU, instead of developing electronics to get the most out of a top design engine.
market. :xxbah:


You seem to be misreading, or misunderstanding.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 12:27:02 pm
Rain stopped track time at today's testing.  After 4 hours or so of open track:

1.  Rossi - Y
2.  Lorenzo - Y
3.  Marquez - H
4.  Stoner - D
5.  Ianone - D
6.  Crutchlow - H
7.  Barbera - D
8.  Espargaro - S
9.  Vinales - S
10.  Hernandez - D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on February 03, 2016, 12:31:21 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.

Remember, this is all about the show - the only real exciting race is the one you're in, whether it's dicing your mate to the pub or tearing round a track on some vintage POS.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 03, 2016, 12:35:48 pm
Final times at Sepang. Lorenzo flying and Stoner the fastest Ducati on a 2015-model.

1   99   Jorge Lorenzo   Yamaha M1   1:59.580       
2   46   Valentino Rossi   Yamaha M1   2:00.556   0.976   0.976
3   93   Marc Márquez   Honda RC213V   2:00.883   1.303   0.327
4   35   Cal Crutchlow   Honda RC213V   2:00.992   1.412   0.109
5   27   Casey Stoner   Ducati GP15 Test   2:01.070   1.490   0.078
6   26   Dani Pedrosa   Honda RC213V   2:01.161   1.581   0.091
7   9   Danilo Petrucci   Ducati GP15   2:01.217   1.637   0.056
8   29   Andrea Iannone   Ducati GP16   2:01.223   1.643   0.006
9   45   Scott Redding   Ducati GP15   2:01.229   1.649   0.006
10   25   Maverick Viñales   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.244   1.664   0.015
11   8   Hector Barbera   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.434   1.854   0.190
12   41   Aleix Espargaro   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.623   2.043   0.189
13   4   Andrea Dovizioso   Ducati GP16   2:01.675   2.095   0.052
14   68   Yonny Hernandez   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.774   2.194   0.099
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2016, 01:17:20 pm
Still such a sad scenario, in our day and age of absolute technology, that the PREMIER class of all racing sees the engines detuned around a common ECU, instead of developing electronics to get the most out of a top design engine.
market. :xxbah:


You seem to be misreading, or misunderstanding.

So you're saying that this common ECU is more state of the art than the manufacturers can come up with?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on February 03, 2016, 01:45:21 pm
Final times at Sepang. Lorenzo flying and Stoner the fastest Ducati on a 2015-model.

1   99   Jorge Lorenzo   Yamaha M1   1:59.580       
2   46   Valentino Rossi   Yamaha M1   2:00.556   0.976   0.976
3   93   Marc Márquez   Honda RC213V   2:00.883   1.303   0.327
4   35   Cal Crutchlow   Honda RC213V   2:00.992   1.412   0.109
5   27   Casey Stoner   Ducati GP15 Test   2:01.070   1.490   0.078
6   26   Dani Pedrosa   Honda RC213V   2:01.161   1.581   0.091
7   9   Danilo Petrucci   Ducati GP15   2:01.217   1.637   0.056
8   29   Andrea Iannone   Ducati GP16   2:01.223   1.643   0.006
9   45   Scott Redding   Ducati GP15   2:01.229   1.649   0.006
10   25   Maverick Viñales   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.244   1.664   0.015
11   8   Hector Barbera   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.434   1.854   0.190
12   41   Aleix Espargaro   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.623   2.043   0.189
13   4   Andrea Dovizioso   Ducati GP16   2:01.675   2.095   0.052
14   68   Yonny Hernandez   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.774   2.194   0.099

Crutchlow did a bit better.
Rossi consistently almost a second down on JL99.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 03:12:01 pm
Still such a sad scenario, in our day and age of absolute technology, that the PREMIER class of all racing sees the engines detuned around a common ECU, instead of developing electronics to get the most out of a top design engine.
market. :xxbah:


You seem to be misreading, or misunderstanding.


So you're saying that this common ECU is more state of the art than the manufacturers can come up with?


No.  Not at all.  You referred to engines being detuned to work with the new ECU, which is not the case.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.


The top riders have said, from since the first tests, that they believe they will be as fast, or faster in 2016.  The problem they foresee is consistency lap after lap as the new ECU does not solve mistakes as easily, nor quickly.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on February 03, 2016, 03:24:13 pm
Ek's n bietjie agter die klip, so Stoner ry vir Ducati die jaar?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 03:36:57 pm
Ek's n bietjie agter die klip, so Stoner ry vir Ducati die jaar?

Nee.  Hy is hulle "Brand Ambassador" en een van die twee toetsjaers.  Hy gaan nie aan MotoGP deelneem nie.  Ek voorsien dat hy wel as "wildcard" aan een of twee renne sal deelneem.  Waarskynlik sy tuisren, Australia en dan nog een daar naby, soos Japan.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on February 03, 2016, 04:03:35 pm
Dis jammer
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on February 03, 2016, 04:07:09 pm
Final times at Sepang. Lorenzo flying and Stoner the fastest Ducati on a 2015-model.

1   99   Jorge Lorenzo   Yamaha M1   1:59.580       
2   46   Valentino Rossi   Yamaha M1   2:00.556   0.976   0.976
3   93   Marc Márquez   Honda RC213V   2:00.883   1.303   0.327
4   35   Cal Crutchlow   Honda RC213V   2:00.992   1.412   0.109
5   27   Casey Stoner   Ducati GP15 Test   2:01.070   1.490   0.078
6   26   Dani Pedrosa   Honda RC213V   2:01.161   1.581   0.091
7   9   Danilo Petrucci   Ducati GP15   2:01.217   1.637   0.056
8   29   Andrea Iannone   Ducati GP16   2:01.223   1.643   0.006
9   45   Scott Redding   Ducati GP15   2:01.229   1.649   0.006
10   25   Maverick Viñales   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.244   1.664   0.015
11   8   Hector Barbera   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.434   1.854   0.190
12   41   Aleix Espargaro   Suzuki GSX-RR   2:01.623   2.043   0.189
13   4   Andrea Dovizioso   Ducati GP16   2:01.675   2.095   0.052
14   68   Yonny Hernandez   Ducati GP14.2   2:01.774   2.194   0.099

Crutchlow did a bit better.
Rossi consistently almost a second down on JL99.

J Lo is going to be unstoppable this year, Rossi says he (JL) is the best out of everyone on the hard tyres
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 03, 2016, 04:16:52 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.


The top riders have said, from since the first tests, that they believe they will be as fast, or faster in 2016.  The problem they foresee is consistency lap after lap as the new ECU does not solve mistakes as easily, nor quickly.   

This lack of "solving mistakes" is what Yamaha and Honda would be able to do themselves.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 03, 2016, 04:47:13 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.


The top riders have said, from since the first tests, that they believe they will be as fast, or faster in 2016.  The problem they foresee is consistency lap after lap as the new ECU does not solve mistakes as easily, nor quickly.  

This lack of "solving mistakes" is what Yamaha and Honda would be able to do themselves.

Of course.  

Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Skaiidawg on February 04, 2016, 07:02:45 am
Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

Ok goed mnr Hoofseun ons sal so maak, reg so, 2Sd sal nie weer 'n comment maak voor jou toestemming verkry is nie.........
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2016, 08:18:42 am
Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

Ok goed mnr Hoofseun ons sal so maak, reg so, 2Sd sal nie weer 'n comment maak voor jou toestemming verkry is nie.........

+1

:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 04, 2016, 05:45:49 pm
Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

Ok goed mnr Hoofseun ons sal so maak, reg so, 2Sd sal nie weer 'n comment maak voor jou toestemming verkry is nie.........

Is jy 2SD se pappa?  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 04, 2016, 05:46:38 pm
Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

Ok goed mnr Hoofseun ons sal so maak, reg so, 2Sd sal nie weer 'n comment maak voor jou toestemming verkry is nie.........

+1

:laughing7:

En jy is 2SD se mamma?   :imaposer:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on February 04, 2016, 06:29:07 pm
?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 05, 2016, 01:28:16 pm
?

Ek dink die Beer het jou misverstaan. :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 05, 2016, 01:30:48 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.


The top riders have said, from since the first tests, that they believe they will be as fast, or faster in 2016.  The problem they foresee is consistency lap after lap as the new ECU does not solve mistakes as easily, nor quickly.  

This lack of "solving mistakes" is what Yamaha and Honda would be able to do themselves.

Of course.  

Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

The rule changes, to which I am opposed, is actually part of MotoGP. So while I'm protesting, and you documenting, we are still talking MGP. :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 05, 2016, 01:38:20 pm
So these guys are riding their bikes faster this year than last year - hmm, seems to me they've overcome the so-called obstacles quite easily.


The top riders have said, from since the first tests, that they believe they will be as fast, or faster in 2016.  The problem they foresee is consistency lap after lap as the new ECU does not solve mistakes as easily, nor quickly.  

This lack of "solving mistakes" is what Yamaha and Honda would be able to do themselves.

Of course.  

Now,  we all know your absolute opposition to these changes.   They are well documented.   Let us agree to disagree and then you allow us to talk MGP without you constantly reminding us of your opposition.

The rule changes, to which I am opposed, is actually part of MotoGP. So while I'm protesting, and you documenting, we are still talking MGP. :3some:


Nee.  Ekke hou maar my se bek.  Ek sien mos Mammie en Pappie is hier om my te foeter as ek lelik is met jou.   :imaposer: :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on February 05, 2016, 02:01:07 pm
Ouens wat dink hulle weet fokken alles, irriteer ander ouens wat dink hulle weet fokken alles.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 05, 2016, 07:08:01 pm

The rule changes, to which I am opposed, is actually part of MotoGP. So while I'm protesting, and you documenting, we are still talking MGP. :3some:


Ja.  True.  My apologies.  You are, of course entitled to have your say.

I am very interested in seeing how MGP goes ahead this year and not really seeing any discussion other than the "the rules is a fokop" responses did get me down a tad.  Ah well.  That is a forum for you.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 05, 2016, 08:24:08 pm

The rule changes, to which I am opposed, is actually part of MotoGP. So while I'm protesting, and you documenting, we are still talking MGP. :3some:


Ja.  True.  My apologies.  You are, of course entitled to have your say.

I am very interested in seeing how MGP goes ahead this year and not really seeing any discussion other than the "the rules is a fokop" responses did get me down a tad.  Ah well.  That is a forum for you.

The rules that's a "fokkop" has nothing to do with the forum.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 05, 2016, 08:31:14 pm

The rule changes, to which I am opposed, is actually part of MotoGP. So while I'm protesting, and you documenting, we are still talking MGP. :3some:


Ja.  True.  My apologies.  You are, of course entitled to have your say.

I am very interested in seeing how MGP goes ahead this year and not really seeing any discussion other than the "the rules is a fokop" responses did get me down a tad.  Ah well.  That is a forum for you.

The rules that's a "fokkop" has nothing to do with the forum.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on February 12, 2016, 02:08:06 pm
......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on February 12, 2016, 02:27:47 pm
Sommige ken hul pappas, sommige ken hull mammas, ander moet nog besluit oor hulle seksualiteit :)

Damn, kan nie meer wag vir MGP om te begin nie!!

Ek hoop net nie daar is een vervaardiger wat oorheers soos in F1 nie!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on February 12, 2016, 02:53:35 pm
Ja wat...

Ek hoop dis weer so 'n close affêre hierdie jaar met meer contenders.

Maar met minder kak en drama as laas jaar.

Aan die ander kant, was dit 'n goeie ding dat die "untouchables" laas jaar bietjie van 'n reality check gekry het
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on February 12, 2016, 03:27:15 pm
Die drama was fun, ek hoop nie JL jaag net onder almal uit nie, want as jy kyk na die testing, lyk dit vir my niemand kan hom vang nie
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on February 12, 2016, 04:34:36 pm
Die drama was fun, ek hoop nie JL jaag net onder almal uit nie, want as jy kyk na die testing, lyk dit vir my niemand kan hom vang nie

Nie eers Rossi nie? Dit is ontoelaatbaar ! :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on February 12, 2016, 08:27:30 pm
Die drama was fun, ek hoop nie JL jaag net onder almal uit nie, want as jy kyk na die testing, lyk dit vir my niemand kan hom vang nie

Nie eers Rossi nie? Dit is ontoelaatbaar ! :peepwall:

Dis hoekom JL so voorbly, hy het mos gesien wat met ou MarkieMarc gebeur het. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 18, 2016, 04:59:43 pm
How do you like this? Vinales and Suzuki fastest at the end of the 2nd day's testing at Phillips Island

1
25
M. VIÑALES
1:29.131
2
93
M. MARQUEZ
+0.161
3
99
J. LORENZO
+0.226
4
46
V. ROSSI
+0.273
5
35
C. CRUTCHLOW
+0.540
6
8
H. BARBERA
+0.723
7
29
A. IANNONE
+0.726
8
26
D. PEDROSA
+0.786
9
45
S. REDDING
+0.810
10
38
B. SMITH
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on February 18, 2016, 09:20:24 pm
Suzuki the team on the move this season. Watch out for a few suprises from them especially from Vinales.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on February 19, 2016, 09:10:32 am
Times of final session at Phillips Island. Seems the Honda's are getting to grips with the software and tyres.

1      MARQUEZ, Marc   Repsol Honda Team   1:29.158         48 / 64   
2      VIÑALES, Maverick   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   1:29.299   0.141   0.141   11 / 39   
3      CRUTCHLOW, Cal   LCR Honda   1:29.348   0.190   0.049   58 / 58   
4      BARBERA, Hector   Avintia Racing   1:29.361   0.203   0.013   57 / 65   
5      ROSSI, Valentino   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   1:29.435   0.277   0.074   43 / 56   
6      BAZ, Loris   Avintia Racing   1:29.583   0.425   0.148   11 / 54   
7      PEDROSA, Dani   Repsol Honda Team   1:29.606   0.448   0.023   37 / 42   
8      ESPARGARO, Pol   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1:29.718   0.560   0.112   43 / 44   
9      LORENZO, Jorge   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   1:29.760   0.602   0.042   16 / 41   
10      DOVIZIOSO, Andrea   Ducati Team   1:29.860   0.702   0.100   49 / 65   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on March 02, 2016, 08:01:35 pm
Lorenzo going like a rocket at Losail. Almost half a second up on second man Vinales while Rossi is running in third and Marquez lagging more than a second behind on a Honda with new winglets (cute). Still two more hours to go. Lots can happen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 02, 2016, 10:19:41 pm
n Man het jare terug vir my gese oor die Cape Aghulas rubberducks; "Jy vang nie n Soeksoekie oppie water nie" :imaposer:

Looks like this year it could be true of the tar as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on March 03, 2016, 08:02:37 am
n Man het jare terug vir my gese oor die Cape Aghulas rubberducks; "Jy vang nie n Soeksoekie oppie water nie" :imaposer:

Looks like this year it could be true of the tar as well.

This would make me very very happy.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 03, 2016, 10:08:14 am
End of Day 1 times from Qatar:


1.   = Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 55.452s    [Lap 23/36]
2.   = Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 55.880s +0.428s   [28/44]
3.   = Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 55.894s +0.442s   [31/34]
4.   = Andrea Iannone   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)      1m 56.119s +0.667s   [53/53]
5.   = Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 56.213s +0.761s   [27/46]
6.   = Hector Barbera   ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 56.320s +0.868s   [27/27]
7.   = Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)      1m 56.388s +0.936s   [46/52]
8.   = Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 56.510s +1.058s   [21/36]
9.   = Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 56.517s +1.065s   [23/38]
10.   = Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 56.523s +1.071s   [29/45]
11.   = Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 56.552s +1.100s   [25/35]
12.   = Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 56.747s +1.295s   [34/43]
13.   = Dani Pedrosa   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 56.910s +1.458s   [26/27]
14.   ˄ Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 57.021s +1.569s   [39/40]
15.   ˅ Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 57.121s +1.669s   [31/32]
16.   = Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 57.850s +2.398s   [33/37]
17.   = Michele Pirro   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 57.891s +2.439s   [48/50]
18.   = Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 58.016s +2.564s   [36/38]
19.   = Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 58.066s +2.614s   [14/26]
20.   = Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 58.269s +2.817s   [32/34]
21.   = Hiroshi Aoyama   JPN Honda Test Rider (RC213V)      1m 58.744s +3.292s   [28/52]
22.   = Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 58.753s +3.301s   [16/16]
23.   = Takuya Tsuda   JPN Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR)      2m 0.578s +5.126s   [35/45]
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 03, 2016, 07:53:41 pm
n Man het jare terug vir my gese oor die Cape Aghulas rubberducks; "Jy vang nie n Soeksoekie oppie water nie" :imaposer:

Looks like this year it could be true of the tar as well.

This would make me very very happy.




Me too!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2016, 10:48:09 am
n Man het jare terug vir my gese oor die Cape Aghulas rubberducks; "Jy vang nie n Soeksoekie oppie water nie" :imaposer:

Looks like this year it could be true of the tar as well.

This would make me very very happy.




Me too!

I would love to see the Soeksoekie in a very solid position AFTER the Yomamas.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 04, 2016, 01:31:12 pm
End of Day 2 testing at Qatar:

1.   = Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 55.436s    [Lap 28/42]
2.   = Andrea Iannone   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)      1m 55.508s +0.072s   [25/41]
3.   = Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 55.535s +0.099s   [14/48]
4.   ˄ Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 55.677s +0.241s   [32/40]
5.   ˅ Hector Barbera   ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 55.815s +0.379s   [20/35]
6.   ˄ Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)      1m 55.856s +0.420s   [40/46]
7.   ˄ Dani Pedrosa   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 55.857s +0.421s   [42/42]
8.   ˅ Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 55.947s +0.511s   [24/56]
9.   ˅ Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 56.046s +0.610s   [4/35]
10.   ˅ Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 56.126s +0.690s   [20/32]
11.   ˅ Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 56.173s +0.737s   [16/30]
12.   ˅ Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 56.427s +0.991s   [27/45]
13.   = Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 56.667s +1.231s   [13/33]
14.   = Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 56.733s +1.297s   [31/42]
15.   = Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 57.263s +1.827s   [29/46]
16.   = Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 57.267s +1.831s   [7/14]
17.   = Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 57.670s +2.234s   [25/38]
18.   = Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 57.721s +2.285s   [28/36]
19.   = Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 57.789s +2.353s   [4/20]
20.   = Michele Pirro   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 58.113s +2.677s   [16/21]
21.   ˄ Hiroshi Aoyama   JPN Honda Test Rider (RC213V)      1m 58.347s +2.911s   [60/62]
22.   ˅ Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 58.418s +2.982s   [8/16]

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on March 09, 2016, 03:28:12 pm
The WilddogGP pool on suberbru is active again, so please join in.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on March 09, 2016, 08:28:35 pm
9 days to go till im off to Qatar. Can't freaking wait! I think this season is going to be a cracker.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on March 10, 2016, 08:12:27 am
9 days to go till im off to Qatar. Can't freaking wait! I think this season is going to be a cracker.
lucky dog!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on March 10, 2016, 12:07:28 pm
The WilddogGP pool on suberbru is active again, so please join in.

Apparently you need this.
The pool code for WilddogGP is slurbias. Share this with friends so they can find the pool easily
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on March 15, 2016, 09:37:16 am
Does anyone have a reliable link to stream the race?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on March 15, 2016, 01:22:49 pm
I use DSTV Now, as long as you have a subscription and proper data speed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 16, 2016, 12:39:56 pm
Just because I am shivering in anticipation, some trivia from the 2015 Qatar MotoGP:

Time between the winner and 15th (last place for points):

MotoGP - 33,6s
Moto2 - 30,3s
Moto3 - 5,1s

Number of bikes cover in first second after the winner crossed the line:

MotoGP - 1 (Third was 2.2 seconds behind the winner)
Moto2 - 0 (Second was 5,0 seconds behind the winner)
Moto3 -  9 (10th was 1,3 seconds behind the winner)

Gap between 1st and 2nd:

MotoGP - 0,2s
Moto2 - 5,0s
Moto3 - 0.03s

Highest top speed:

MotoGP - Marc Marquez 350.5
Moto2 - Alex Rins 286.7
Moto3 - Livio Loi 240.2


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on March 17, 2016, 08:52:46 am
Thanks Bear, interesting figures!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 17, 2016, 08:22:46 pm
Qatar MotoGP FP1:

1.  Lorenzo
2.  Rossi
3.  Ianone
4.  Barbera
5.  Vinales
6.  Esparagro
7.  Pedrosa
8.  Marquez
9.  Dovizioso
10.  Redding

FP2:

1.  Iannone
2.  Marquez
3.  Redding
4.  Vinalez
5.  Dovizioso
6.  Pedrosa
7.  Rossi
8.  Barbera
9.  Lorenzo
10.  Petrucci


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 18, 2016, 08:57:58 pm
Qatar FP3:

1.  Iannone
2.  Lorenzo
3.  Marquez
4.  Dovizioso
5.  Vinales
6.  Pedrosa
7.  Rossi
8.  Barbera
9.  Redding
10.  Espargaro

Bliksem!  The Iannone and Dovizioso Ducatis are between 12 and 15km/h up on top end over the Yamahas, Hondas, Suzukis.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rodlau on March 20, 2016, 05:16:43 pm
Maybe I,m wrong, but stands appear to be empty. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on March 20, 2016, 09:16:30 pm
Tough luck for Binder jissie he was doing so well right through the race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Frankrzzgp on March 21, 2016, 10:06:01 am
Tough luck for Binder jissie he was doing so well right through the race

Hell that was close! I really didn't expect it!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on March 21, 2016, 01:41:15 pm
Slipstreaming plays a major factor in moto3 especially on this track. You want to be second out of the last corner and close enough
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on March 21, 2016, 05:45:11 pm
Do yourself a favour and go buy a Motogp.com video pass.

You can get the standard - about R1600 or full R2100 where you can watch live realtime and chose the camera view you would like on all three classes. You can watch all the sessions for all the classes. There's also behind the scene stuff too.

You do need a reasonable internet speed 4M can do it but 10M is brilliant.

I allows you to rewatch all your favourite moments and there's an archive going back to the 80's that you can watch the full races too.

DSTV buy their link from them.

If you aren't sure, or want to test out your connectivites ability to handle it, there is a promo where you can watch the full monty of the first GP race from last year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on March 21, 2016, 06:38:33 pm
Do yourself a favour and go buy a Motogp.com video pass.

You can get the standard - about R1600 or full R2100 where you can watch live realtime and chose the camera view you would like on all three classes. You can watch all the sessions for all the classes. There's also behind the scene stuff too.

You do need a reasonable internet speed 4M can do it but 10M is brilliant.

I allows you to rewatch all your favourite moments and there's an archive going back to the 80's that you can watch the full races too.

DSTV buy their link from them.

If you aren't sure, or want to test out your connectivites ability to handle it, there is a promo where you can watch the full monty of the first GP race from last year.

Been thinking about that. Is that the annual price?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on March 21, 2016, 07:34:10 pm
Do yourself a favour and go buy a Motogp.com video pass.

You can get the standard - about R1600 or full R2100 where you can watch live realtime and chose the camera view you would like on all three classes. You can watch all the sessions for all the classes. There's also behind the scene stuff too.

You do need a reasonable internet speed 4M can do it but 10M is brilliant.

I allows you to rewatch all your favourite moments and there's an archive going back to the 80's that you can watch the full races too.

DSTV buy their link from them.

If you aren't sure, or want to test out your connectivites ability to handle it, there is a promo where you can watch the full monty of the first GP race from last year.

Been thinking about that. Is that the annual price?

Yes, valid for a year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on March 21, 2016, 07:35:18 pm
I think its 99 Euro and 134 Euro for the two packages
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on March 21, 2016, 07:38:13 pm
Do yourself a favour and go buy a Motogp.com video pass.

You can get the standard - about R1600 or full R2100 where you can watch live realtime and chose the camera view you would like on all three classes. You can watch all the sessions for all the classes. There's also behind the scene stuff too.

You do need a reasonable internet speed 4M can do it but 10M is brilliant.

I allows you to rewatch all your favourite moments and there's an archive going back to the 80's that you can watch the full races too.

DSTV buy their link from them.

If you aren't sure, or want to test out your connectivites ability to handle it, there is a promo where you can watch the full monty of the first GP race from last year.
You stream it through streamhunter.com and you get the Eurosport coverage, at home on your PC and they get the coverage from MotoGP.com :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on March 23, 2016, 08:59:42 am
Well well...Rossi signed with Yamaha for two more years (2017/2018)...but nothing on Lorenzo?  ???

Can someone perhaps advise...commentators on Sunday mentioned something about JL99 waiting for Ducati to make him an offer?...does his contract with Yamaha expires end of this season?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on March 23, 2016, 09:04:48 am
Well well...Rossi signed with Yamaha for two more years (2017/2018)...but nothing on Lorenzo?  ???

Can someone perhaps advise...commentators on Sunday mentioned something about JL99 waiting for Ducati to make him an offer?...does his contract with Yamaha expires end of this season?

He is playing the waiting game to get a better offer out of Yamaha.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on March 23, 2016, 09:10:31 am
I thought that Yamaha would have a kind of a 'closing date' on whatever offer they made to him...perhaps they do as it is still early days...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on March 23, 2016, 09:34:32 am
Well well...Rossi signed with Yamaha for two more years (2017/2018)...but nothing on Lorenzo?  ???

Can someone perhaps advise...commentators on Sunday mentioned something about JL99 waiting for Ducati to make him an offer?...does his contract with Yamaha expires end of this season?

He is playing the waiting game to get a better offer out of Yamaha.

I hope this bites him in the arse so that he boggers off to Ducati and it opens the door for someone less of a poephol to join Yamaha!
I am not a Lorenzo fan at all!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on March 23, 2016, 11:24:37 pm
Yamaha already has the biggest uber poepol of them all for another 2 years.

So finding a lessor one won't be difficult.

:-)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: evansv on March 24, 2016, 07:35:16 am
On another subject : - it's a shame Brad couldn't get his first win in Moto3!!

Let's hope he can get that monkey off his back this year :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 24, 2016, 07:39:35 am
Yamaha already has the biggest uber poepol of them all for another 2 years.

So finding a lessor one won't be difficult.

:-)


Are you insinuating that Yamaha's attract poepols? :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on March 24, 2016, 07:42:56 am
Yeah...but mind you...it is darem n biggest uber peophol!!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 24, 2016, 07:50:41 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4:...........with a fat no ONE on his bike! :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on March 24, 2016, 08:31:32 am
On another subject : - it's a shame Brad couldn't get his first win in Moto3!!

Let's hope he can get that monkey off his back this year :thumleft:


I don't feel its a shame.
He rode a very mature and competitive race and got a great result. If he can forget about the first win and just stay constantly competitive the win will come and the year could turn out great.
With a bit of luck thrown in of course.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on March 24, 2016, 08:31:40 am
I think Bus is saying that VR46 is the uber poephol...clearly not a fan like me...  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2016, 01:21:22 pm
Well well...Rossi signed with Yamaha for two more years (2017/2018)...but nothing on Lorenzo?  ???

Can someone perhaps advise...commentators on Sunday mentioned something about JL99 waiting for Ducati to make him an offer?...does his contract with Yamaha expires end of this season?

Indeed, it does.  The silly season rumour mill is indicating that JL99 will go to Ducati.  This may well be on the cards since Yamaha signed Rossi for 2017 and 2018.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2016, 01:23:27 pm
I think Bus is saying that VR46 is the uber poephol...clearly not a fan like me...  ;)

It is indeed what Bus is saying.  Some follow MotoGP for the excitement, adrenalin, fun.  Others to look at poephols.  Who am I to judge?   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Jag man on March 24, 2016, 01:29:46 pm
Hey guys lets not fall of the bus here Rossi still the best.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: sidetrack on March 24, 2016, 02:12:01 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on March 24, 2016, 02:12:39 pm
I think Bus is saying that VR46 is the uber poephol...clearly not a fan like me...  ;)

It is indeed what Bus is saying.  Some follow MotoGP for the excitement, adrenalin, fun.  Others to look at poephols.  Who am I to judge?   :lol8:

Always wondered what those tail-piece cameras were for .................
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on March 24, 2016, 02:15:14 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?


They are going for the massive revenue stream he creates. I am a Rossi fan but day for day I think that wanker #99 is faster.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on March 24, 2016, 03:00:51 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?


They are going for the massive revenue stream he creates. I am a Rossi fan but day for day I think that wanker #99 is faster.....

Even my new WR had a VR46 sticker on it when I picked it up at the shop.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on March 24, 2016, 03:13:23 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?

Well I think it does wonders for Yamaha to have Rossi onboard. Yes he definitely is not at the top of his game anymore but has a lot of fans!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ROMMEL HOND on March 24, 2016, 03:22:02 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?

Well I think it does wonders for Yamaha to have Rossi onboard. Yes he definitely is not at the top of his game anymore but has a lot of fans!
It's all about money and Rossi is BIG MONEY,but yes I'm still a 46 fan.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 24, 2016, 07:07:20 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?

Well I think it does wonders for Yamaha to have Rossi onboard. Yes he definitely is not at the top of his game anymore but has a lot of fans!

Yamaha signed him quickly because it does wonders for them, for sure.

He may not be at the top of his "personal" game, but he is certainly still amongst the top.

2014:  2nd in World Championship
2015:  2nd in World Championship

That alone would be good enough for most.  He may well not be head and shoulders above the rest anymore, but it could be that they came up to him, rather than him dropping.  

Any manufacturer would give their eye teeth to have a rider who can still be 2nd in the championship and have 4 or 5 times more fans than anyone else.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: XT JOE on March 26, 2016, 05:20:58 pm
I have always been a Rossi fan but I reckon his best years have passed, do Yamaha really think he has what it takes to win another title ? Are they going for the best rider vs the more popular ?

Well I think it does wonders for Yamaha to have Rossi onboard. Yes he definitely is not at the top of his game anymore but has a lot of fans!

ditto
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 28, 2016, 07:07:30 pm
New technical rules:

Winglet ban for Moto2, effective immediately.
Winglet ban for Moto3 effective 1 Jan 2017.
Winglet ban for MotoGP, no news.

The bloody wings on JL99's Yamaha this year will have a 747 develop wing envy! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 28, 2016, 07:48:29 pm
New technical rules:

Winglet ban for Moto2, effective immediately.
Winglet ban for Moto3 effective 1 Jan 2017.
Winglet ban for MotoGP, no news.

The bloody wings on JL99's Yamaha this year will have a 747 develop wing envy! 


Cost Yamaha too much parking it at an airport.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on March 28, 2016, 08:09:46 pm
New technical rules:

Winglet ban for Moto2, effective immediately.
Winglet ban for Moto3 effective 1 Jan 2017.
Winglet ban for MotoGP, no news.

The bloody wings on JL99's Yamaha this year will have a 747 develop wing envy!  


Cost Yamaha too much parking it at an airport.

Ja, but they save a fortune in DHL costs as the thing could fly to Argentina by itself!

I must say, I am not sure I like these "winglets".

Seems Yamaha are now a proud supporter of Pooratech!?   :eek7:

  
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2016, 04:14:34 pm
Argenitina.

Free Practise 1:

1.   Andrea Dovizioso      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 43.684s    [Lap 14/14]   323km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Marc Marquez      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 43.778s +0.094s   [14/16]   314km/h
3.   Yonny Hernandez      COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 44.027s +0.343s   [16/16]   318km/h
4.   Maverick Viñales      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 44.113s +0.429s   [17/17]   317km/h
5.   Aleix Espargaro      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 44.128s +0.444s   [16/16]   313km/h
6.   Bus' Favourite Arsehole   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 44.181s +0.497s   [13/13]   319km/h
7.   Dani Pedrosa      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 44.231s +0.547s   [13/14]   315km/h
8.   Jack Miller      AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 44.244s +0.560s   [16/20]   310km/h
9.   Bradley Smith      GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 44.275s +0.591s   [16/16]   316km/h
10.   Scott Redding      GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 44.293s +0.609s   [18/19]   319km/h
11.   Hector Barbera      ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 44.455s +0.771s   [17/17]   316km/h
12.   Jorge Lorenzo      ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 44.742s +1.058s   [12/13]   316km/h
13.   Loris Baz      FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 45.080s +1.396s   [18/18]   310km/h
14.   Eugene Laverty      IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 45.294s +1.610s   [15/15]   311km/h
15.   Alvaro Bautista      ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 45.447s +1.763s   [17/17]   309km/h
16.   Stefan Bradl      GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 45.519s +1.835s   [18/18]   307km/h
17.   Pol Espargaro      ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 45.590s +1.906s   [18/18]   315km/h
18.   Andrea Iannone      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 45.792s +2.108s   [10/17]   326km/h
19.   Tito Rabat      ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 45.876s +2.192s   [22/22]   310km/h
20.   Cal Crutchlow      GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 46.086s +2.402s   [6/11]   310km/h

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on April 01, 2016, 04:25:52 pm
Hey Bear, young Vale ain't gonna be happy with that one  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2016, 07:07:39 pm
Hey Bear, young Vale ain't gonna be happy with that one  :imaposer:

I won't tell him if you won't!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2016, 09:01:03 pm
Jinne!  Yamaha struggling something terrible!


1.   Marc Marquez      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 41.579s    [Lap 15/16]   317km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Dani Pedrosa      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 41.604s +0.025s   [15/16]   315km/h
3.   Maverick Viñales      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 42.047s +0.468s   [11/15]   316km/h
4.   Jack Miller      AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 42.375s +0.796s   [14/17]   313km/h
5.   Cal Crutchlow      GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 42.451s +0.872s   [17/18]   315km/h
6.   Scott Redding      GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 42.458s +0.879s   [16/18]   318km/h
7.   Valentino Rossi      ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 42.565s +0.986s   [18/19]   317km/h
8.   Aleix Espargaro      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 42.576s +0.997s   [12/12]   314km/h
9.   Bradley Smith      GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 42.595s +1.016s   [17/18]   317km/h
10.   Andrea Dovizioso      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 42.635s +1.056s   [14/18]   323km/h
11.   Hector Barbera      ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 42.664s +1.085s   [14/16]   319km/h
12.   Eugene Laverty      IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 42.724s +1.145s   [14/14]   318km/h
13.   Pol Espargaro      ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 42.774s +1.195s   [12/16]   317km/h
14.   Jorge Lorenzo      ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 42.819s +1.240s   [10/14]   318km/h
15.   Andrea Iannone      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 42.953s +1.374s   [18/19]   325km/h
16.   Loris Baz      FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 43.054s +1.475s   [17/18]   313km/h
17.   Yonny Hernandez      COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 43.242s +1.663s   [11/13]   319km/h
18.   Tito Rabat      ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 43.538s +1.959s   [10/18]   312km/h
19.   Alvaro Bautista      ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 43.800s +2.221s   [18/18]   311km/h
20.   Stefan Bradl      GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 43.892s +2.313s   [11/17]  308km/h
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 02, 2016, 07:56:32 am
 :laughing4:

Check Yammie win this one too!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2016, 10:28:16 am
:laughing4:

Check Yammie win this one too!

I would not be surprised and I would love that to happen, but there is no doubt that they were struggling in FP 1 and FP 2.  Seems the Yamaha teams cannot come to grips with the tyres on this track where Michelin has not yet tested.  The Tech3 Yamaha team described it as riding one eggs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2016, 04:17:28 pm
1.   Marc Marquez      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 40.368s    [Lap 13/18]   319km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Jorge Lorenzo      ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 40.392s +0.024s   [15/18]   323km/h
3.   Andrea Iannone      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 40.741s +0.373s   [19/21]   330km/h
4.   Hector Barbera      ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 40.766s +0.398s   [17/17]   321km/h
5.   Maverick Viñales      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.796s +0.428s   [15/18]   323km/h
6.   Dani Pedrosa      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 40.807s +0.439s   [16/18]   321km/h
7.   Aleix Espargaro      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.893s +0.525s   [15/17]   319km/h
8.   Cal Crutchlow      GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 40.929s +0.561s   [16/18]   320km/h
9.   Andrea Dovizioso      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 41.040s +0.672s   [14/18]   328km/h
10.   Valentino Rossi      ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 41.101s +0.733s   [18/20]   322km/h

11.   Jack Miller      AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 41.145s +0.777s   [16/18]   318km/h
12.   Pol Espargaro      ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 41.171s +0.803s   [20/20]   321km/h
13.   Bradley Smith      GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 41.246s +0.878s   [20/20]   322km/h
14.   Loris Baz      FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.359s +0.991s   [16/18]   318km/h
15.   Michele Pirro      ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 41.379s +1.011s   [14/18]   321km/h
16.   Alvaro Bautista      ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 41.679s +1.311s   [17/20]   318km/h
17.   Scott Redding      GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 41.726s +1.358s   [15/17]   322km/h
18.   Tito Rabat      ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 41.798s +1.430s   [18/22]   318km/h
19.   Stefan Bradl      GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 41.909s +1.541s   [19/20]   314km/h
20.   Yonny Hernandez      COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.924s +1.556s   [16/17]   321km/h
21.   Eugene Laverty      IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 42.106s +1.738s   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on April 02, 2016, 06:20:46 pm
Binder you biscuit!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2016, 07:28:30 am
Chaos in Argentina MotoGP as Michelin withdraws both rear tire option due to safety reasons.  This happens after Scot Redding's rear disintegrated during FP4 which was red flagged as a result.  Michelin will provide a new medium compound tire with a harder construction for race day.  None of the riders have used this tire before.  They will get an extra 30 minutes practise today to feel the tire, then it is warm-up and the race,  This pretty much means, whichever of the teams adapting to the tire fastest will have the advantage in the race.  As Rossi and Marquez indicated, after four FP sessions and Qualifying, they all start from zero.  Not a situation anyone wants.

It seems Michelin is taking some strain ....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 03, 2016, 08:58:13 am
Chaos in Argentina MotoGP as Michelin withdraws both rear tire option due to safety reasons.  This happens after Scot Redding's rear disintegrated during FP4 which was red flagged as a result.  Michelin will provide a new medium compound tire with a harder construction for race day.  None of the riders have used this tire before.  They will get an extra 30 minutes practise today to feel the tire, then it is warm-up and the race,  This pretty much means, whichever of the teams adapting to the tire fastest will have the advantage in the race.  As Rossi and Marquez indicated, after four FP sessions and Qualifying, they all start from zero.  Not a situation anyone wants.

It seems Michelin is taking some strain ....


Spanner in the works for sure!!

Awesome front row, let the rivalries resume  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2016, 04:27:55 pm
Okaaayyy!  Easy peasy .... I think!   ???


Quote
Following the replacement of the previous Michelins rear tyres with a new stiffer slick for race day in Argentina - then the arrival of wet weather on Sunday morning, the following will now occur:

"The warm-up starting at 10:40 will now be for 30 minutes, finishing at 11:10. This will apply whether the track is dry or wet.

"If the track is dry for the warm-up riders should use the replacement rear tyre (Option Tyre).

"If the track is wet for the warm-up then the plan to provide extra practice sessions with the Option tyre is cancelled and the race will be held using the tyres from the original allocation.

RACE

"If the race starts in dry conditions if the warm-up has been dry then riders must start with the Option tyre and the race will be for the full 25 laps. The normal flag to flag conditions will apply if the track becomes wet.

"If the race starts in dry conditions when the warm-up has been wet then riders may use either of the rear slick tyres (Medium & Hard of their allocation for Argentina). However, the race will be “flag to flag” for 20 laps with a compulsory stop to change machines at the end of lap 9, 10 or 11.

"If the race starts in the wet and the track dries then Race Direction will decide if it is unsafe for the riders to continue in which case the race will be red flagged. The new “dry” race will then be restarted for ten laps with a 15 minute start procedure. Should the track become wet during this race the riders may change machines as normal.

"If the race starts in wet conditions and remains wet then the race will be for the normal 25 laps.

"Under no conditions will the use of intermediate tyres be permitted.

"Race Direction"

The slick tyre change was announced following a failure for Scott Redding in final practice.

At present it looks like the MotoGP warm-up will be wet. The simplest thing would be if the track now remains wet throughout the day...

Update:  Warm-up was wet.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 03, 2016, 09:48:20 pm
WTF is this so called flag to flag bike swapping stuff we saw today  ??? Never heard of this before..prolly had something to do with the weather...can someone please help and explain this. I'm too stupid or ignorant, but whatever...it robbed us of a nice dice between VR and MM as VR's second bike was no good!

Also clear that JL was out of his depth this weekend...anyway the championship is developing rather interestingly...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on April 04, 2016, 09:01:47 am
WTF is this so called flag to flag bike swapping stuff we saw today  ??? Never heard of this before..prolly had something to do with the weather...can someone please help and explain this. I'm too stupid or ignorant, but whatever...it robbed us of a nice dice between VR and MM as VR's second bike was no good!

Also clear that JL was out of his depth this weekend...anyway the championship is developing rather interestingly...

Also don't understand this rule, can someone explain? MM jumped straight onto his 2nd bike bike in a split second, VR lost at least a second against him in the pits as he got of one bike and climbed onto the next, then Rabat became the ham in the sandwich letting MM get away. A fight for 1st between arch rivals would have been so much more exiting.

Seems like this track is not suited to JL's style, MM on the other hand was sliding and snaking along at breakneck pace. He even slid onto the podium LOL!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 09:10:49 am
WTF is this so called flag to flag bike swapping stuff we saw today  ??? Never heard of this before..prolly had something to do with the weather...can someone please help and explain this. I'm too stupid or ignorant, but whatever...it robbed us of a nice dice between VR and MM as VR's second bike was no good!

Also clear that JL was out of his depth this weekend...anyway the championship is developing rather interestingly...

It happens reasonably frequently, usually due to  starting a wet race and then the track dries up. All wet races are "flag-to-flag" races.  This means they will not stop the race for a tire change.  The riders will decide when, then com ein and swop their wet bikes for dry bikes.

In this case it was for safety reasons as the Michelin tires were suspect.  It wasn't clear that the would last the full race.  This decision came after a rear tire disintegrated on Scott Redding's bike during FP4.  Similar to Philip Island and Bridgestone a few years ago when MM forgot to pit and change and was black flagged.  They therefore limited them to a certain number of laps prior to enforcing a tire change.  The fastest to do that is a whole bike change.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on April 04, 2016, 09:11:56 am
It was a safety thing.

In qualifying, one of the tires delaminated and punched the rear of a Ducati bending the entire rear up and scaring Scott Redding.

Michelin then deemed those tires not safe and withdrew them. Then for the only other dry weather tire left to choose from, to be on the safe side they said that the tires could only be guaranteed for no more than 12 laps.

Thus riders had to swap their bikes on either lap 9, 10 or 11.

Because of this, all the GP riders were given an extra half hour before the race to warm up and get their settings right.

A bit of a farce

Reddings bike;

(http://www.gpone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_big/public/images/2016/article/foto/04-Aprile/MotoGP/02-Argentina/michelin1.jpg?itok=vsNT4Pjq)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 09:14:56 am
Michelin then deemed those tires not safe and withdrew them. Then for the only other dry weather tire left to choose from, to be on the safe side they said that the tires could only be guaranteed for no more than 12 laps.




They did not race on the tire you mention in the end.  They raced on the tires they practised on as that was what the bikes were set up for.  This is why the flag to flag rule came into play. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 04, 2016, 09:18:39 am
WTF is this so called flag to flag bike swapping stuff we saw today  ??? Never heard of this before..prolly had something to do with the weather...can someone please help and explain this. I'm too stupid or ignorant, but whatever...it robbed us of a nice dice between VR and MM as VR's second bike was no good!

Also clear that JL was out of his depth this weekend...anyway the championship is developing rather interestingly...

It happens reasonably frequently, usually due to  starting a wet race and then the track dries up. All wet races are "flag-to-flag" races.  This means they will not stop the race for a tire change.  The riders will decide when, then com ein and swop their wet bikes for dry bikes.

In this case it was for safety reasons as the Michelin tires were suspect.  It wasn't clear that the would last the full race.  This decision came after a rear tire disintegrated on Scott Redding's bike during FP4.  Similar to Philip Island and Bridgestone a few years ago when MM forgot to pit and change and was black flagged.  They therefore limited them to a certain number of laps prior to enforcing a tire change.  The fastest to do that is a whole bike change.


Thanks Bear...I've only been watching MotoGP since last year (could only then afford DSTV) and since then it has not happened.  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 09:55:56 am
Poor Ianone!  Penalised 3 grid positions for next weeks GP in Austin, Texas and 1 penalty point on his license for his little indiscretion in the 2nd last bend yesterday.

Personally, I think a battle hardened battleship sailor could have learned new curse words in the Ducati pit last night!   :imaposer:




WTF is this so called flag to flag bike swapping stuff we saw today  ??? Never heard of this before..prolly had something to do with the weather...can someone please help and explain this. I'm too stupid or ignorant, but whatever...it robbed us of a nice dice between VR and MM as VR's second bike was no good!

Also clear that JL was out of his depth this weekend...anyway the championship is developing rather interestingly...

It happens reasonably frequently, usually due to  starting a wet race and then the track dries up. All wet races are "flag-to-flag" races.  This means they will not stop the race for a tire change.  The riders will decide when, then com ein and swop their wet bikes for dry bikes.

In this case it was for safety reasons as the Michelin tires were suspect.  It wasn't clear that the would last the full race.  This decision came after a rear tire disintegrated on Scott Redding's bike during FP4.  Similar to Philip Island and Bridgestone a few years ago when MM forgot to pit and change and was black flagged.  They therefore limited them to a certain number of laps prior to enforcing a tire change.  The fastest to do that is a whole bike change.


Thanks Bear...I've only been watching MotoGP since last year (could only then afford DSTV) and since then it has not happened.  ;D

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 04, 2016, 09:58:25 am
He did ride like a dick, though. Nearly skittled every one on the very first corner.

And he cost Ducati 36 points yesterday, and a possible 15 odd in the first race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on April 04, 2016, 10:46:42 am
Poor Ianone.. :laughing4:

He properly earned those penalties.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 04, 2016, 01:01:53 pm
Poor Ianone.. :laughing4:

He properly earned those penalties.
Fan Boy :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 01:35:21 pm
Poor Ianone.. :laughing4:

He properly earned those penalties.

Well, I am not sure whether he did earn them or not, but hopefully Race Direction with Dorna out of the decision making process will now stay strict and fair as the season progress. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 04, 2016, 01:40:00 pm
You should know they only ever penalise Italian riders...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 01:49:48 pm
You should know they only ever penalise Italian riders...

Ja.  Troo dat, nê?

 Just hoping it will change.  I did note that JL99 did not receive any penalty for holding up a rider on a flying lap during qualification for DOHA.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on April 04, 2016, 05:59:30 pm
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2016, 09:49:32 am
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic

Nothing wrong with the move.  If he made it stick he would have been hailed a hero.  There was a nice, fat gap.  This move was no different to many others we regularly see in MotoGP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on April 05, 2016, 10:00:52 am
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic

Nothing wrong with the move.  If he made it stick he would have been hailed a hero.  There was a nice, fat gap.  This move was no different to many others we regularly see in MotoGP.

I can't quite agree.
It is up to the second rider to make a safe pass, which he didn't.
Secondly, it is bad judgement to make a marginal move on your podium placed teammate at any time, nevermind on te last corner of the last lap.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 05, 2016, 11:37:40 am
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic

Nothing wrong with the move.  If he made it stick he would have been hailed a hero.  There was a nice, fat gap.  This move was no different to many others we regularly see in MotoGP.

I can't quite agree.
It is up to the second rider to make a safe pass, which he didn't.
Secondly, it is bad judgement to make a marginal move on your podium placed teammate at any time, nevermind on te last corner of the last lap.

Well, if we all agreed it would be rather boring.   :thumleft:

If you go and watch some YouTube videos from the "Best MotoGP Overtakes" group you would see many similar passes.  In this case his tires let go and it ended in tears.   If they stuck, he'd  be hailed a hero.  Dovi should not have left a gap at such a critical time in the race.  It could have been Rossi (In fact, Dovi said he thought it was Rossi till he saw Ianone) behind him and then such a gap would have been an open invitation.  In modern day racing, there are no such thing as "team mates". 

 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 06, 2016, 07:24:45 am
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic

Nothing wrong with the move.  If he made it stick he would have been hailed a hero.  There was a nice, fat gap.  This move was no different to many others we regularly see in MotoGP.

I can't quite agree.
It is up to the second rider to make a safe pass, which he didn't.
Secondly, it is bad judgement to make a marginal move on your podium placed teammate at any time, nevermind on te last corner of the last lap.

Well, if we all agreed it would be rather boring.   :thumleft:

If you go and watch some YouTube videos from the "Best MotoGP Overtakes" group you would see many similar passes.  In this case his tires let go and it ended in tears.   If they stuck, he'd  be hailed a hero.  Dovi should not have left a gap at such a critical time in the race.  It could have been Rossi (In fact, Dovi said he thought it was Rossi till he saw Ianone) behind him and then such a gap would have been an open invitation.  In modern day racing, there are no such thing as "team mates". 

 



Perhaps the Ducati's front wheel bearings seized?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2016, 05:00:16 pm
Ianone ... what an amateur move ... rumour that Ducati are talking to Lorenzo maybe causing him to panic

Nothing wrong with the move.  If he made it stick he would have been hailed a hero.  There was a nice, fat gap.  This move was no different to many others we regularly see in MotoGP.

I can't quite agree.
It is up to the second rider to make a safe pass, which he didn't.
Secondly, it is bad judgement to make a marginal move on your podium placed teammate at any time, nevermind on te last corner of the last lap.

Well, if we all agreed it would be rather boring.   :thumleft:

If you go and watch some YouTube videos from the "Best MotoGP Overtakes" group you would see many similar passes.  In this case his tires let go and it ended in tears.   If they stuck, he'd  be hailed a hero.  Dovi should not have left a gap at such a critical time in the race.  It could have been Rossi (In fact, Dovi said he thought it was Rossi till he saw Ianone) behind him and then such a gap would have been an open invitation.  In modern day racing, there are no such thing as "team mates". 

 



Perhaps the Ducati's front wheel bearings seized?

Perhaps.

What I do know is that if we send these MotoGP stars to race in Moto 3 they would all be dead in two laps.

If they applied the same rules to Moto 3, 99,9999% of the riders would start at the back of the grid every 2nd race!   :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2016, 05:08:27 pm
Winglets.  We know they have already been banned from Moto 2 and will be from next year on Moto 3.  Now, Ducati's upper winglets will be reviewed after safety concerns from Argentina race. This pic of Andrea "The Victim" Dovisiozo's wing hitting the back on Marquez will be analysed by the MotoGP safety commission run by Loris Capirossi


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 06, 2016, 06:21:49 pm
Lorenzo to Ducati in 2017?

I think so.

You?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on April 09, 2016, 06:00:09 pm
First time I noticed the gear shifting is upside down compared to regular bikes. Anyone know why this is? Is it the same for moto 2 and 3?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 09, 2016, 07:11:14 pm
First time I noticed the gear shifting is upside down compared to regular bikes. Anyone know why this is? Is it the same for moto 2 and 3?


Leaning over to the left, it is difficult getting the tip of your boot under the lever for up-changes out of corners. So you just stomp on it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 09, 2016, 07:23:45 pm
First time I noticed the gear shifting is upside down compared to regular bikes. Anyone know why this is? Is it the same for moto 2 and 3?

It is the same for the vast majority of racing bikes across all classes, including superbikes, supersport, etc.  Like Dan said, can't get toe under gear lever to change when fully cranked over in a corner.

A newish innovation is a left hand thumb controlled rear brake.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Suzukli DL on April 09, 2016, 07:25:49 pm
First time I noticed the gear shifting is upside down compared to regular bikes. Anyone know why this is? Is it the same for moto 2 and 3?
as 2strokedan said. I have actually always had my road bikes done like this after many track days. Trust me it works up in ET.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on April 10, 2016, 09:13:41 pm
The Doctor is out... schoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on April 10, 2016, 09:15:56 pm
Mmmm Pedrosa makes a schoolboy mistake as well... Note to self... "stop watching Moto GP, you jinx the riders!" :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Skaiidawg on April 11, 2016, 06:18:16 am
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

The Doctor says... scHoolboy spelling mistake...

 :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 09:44:47 am
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

Not so much a schoolboy mistake.  The medium fronts clearly did not give the riders the feel they required.  When riders at this level go down with lost fronts like we saw yesterday, the tire must be the #1 suspect.  Not that it doesn't grip necessarily, but rather that it does not give the feedback the riders like.

MM93 took a huge risk to go soft front and it paid of handsomely!

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Frankrzzgp on April 11, 2016, 09:51:17 am
Was a weird race to watch... Non of the normal battles that we crave to see, only allot of crashing... Must have been hard out there!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 09:56:46 am
Was a weird race to watch... Non of the normal battles that we crave to see, only allot of crashing... Must have been hard out there!

If we look at the list of fallers who all lost a front, I can only imagine how hard.  Riding at that level and the front tire doesn't talk to you loud and clear, must be a bloody nightmare.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on April 11, 2016, 11:39:23 am
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

Not so much a schoolboy mistake.  The medium fronts clearly did not give the riders the feel they required.  When riders at this level go down with lost fronts like we saw yesterday, the tire must be the #1 suspect.  Not that it doesn't grip necessarily, but rather that it does not give the feedback the riders like.

MM93 took a huge risk to go soft front and it paid of handsomely!


Jip turns out tyre grip was an issue.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 11:52:51 am
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

Not so much a schoolboy mistake.  The medium fronts clearly did not give the riders the feel they required.  When riders at this level go down with lost fronts like we saw yesterday, the tire must be the #1 suspect.  Not that it doesn't grip necessarily, but rather that it does not give the feedback the riders like.

MM93 took a huge risk to go soft front and it paid of handsomely!


Jip turns out tyre grip was an issue.

Turns out VR46 also had a clutch issue.  The reason why he slowed down so much on the back straight.  Clutch was slipping.  He reckons it just felt like the clutch was gripping, when the tire stopped!  Bummer!  A race like yesterday's was no fun to watch and even MM said it wasn't fun riding.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 11, 2016, 11:54:12 am
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

Not so much a schoolboy mistake.  The medium fronts clearly did not give the riders the feel they required.  When riders at this level go down with lost fronts like we saw yesterday, the tire must be the #1 suspect.  Not that it doesn't grip necessarily, but rather that it does not give the feedback the riders like.

MM93 took a huge risk to go soft front and it paid of handsomely!


Jip turns out tyre grip was an issue.

Turns out VR46 also had a clutch issue.  The reason why he slowed down so much on the back straight.  Clutch was slipping.  He reckons it just felt like the clutch was gripping, when the tire stopped!  Bummer!  A race like yesterday's was no fun to watch and even MM said it wasn't fun riding.


Couldn't agree more.... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 11, 2016, 11:55:39 am
I only hear excuses
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on April 11, 2016, 12:00:44 pm
The Doctor is out... scoolboy mistake... I can go to bed now. :sip:

Not so much a schoolboy mistake.  The medium fronts clearly did not give the riders the feel they required.  When riders at this level go down with lost fronts like we saw yesterday, the tire must be the #1 suspect.  Not that it doesn't grip necessarily, but rather that it does not give the feedback the riders like.

MM93 took a huge risk to go soft front and it paid of handsomely!


Jip turns out tyre grip was an issue.

Turns out VR46 also had a clutch issue.  The reason why he slowed down so much on the back straight.  Clutch was slipping.  He reckons it just felt like the clutch was gripping, when the tire stopped!  Bummer!  A race like yesterday's was no fun to watch and even MM said it wasn't fun riding.
It was quite F1 like in that respect... one stretched out procession of bikes at maximum speed. The run off area was amazing though... most bikes cold be picked up and ridden again... bar the Doctor... he decided to off where the barrier was closest! ;-)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 11, 2016, 01:33:35 pm
I only hear excuses

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 04:44:44 pm
I only hear excuses

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 11, 2016, 04:46:29 pm
:thebirdman:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 06:22:54 pm
:thebirdman:

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dogmatix on April 11, 2016, 06:32:14 pm
From what I remember the COTA track has not produced a good spectacle. Hardly any overtaking, even in Moto3!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 06:40:33 pm
From what I remember the COTA track has not produced a good spectacle. Hardly any overtaking, even in Moto3!

Indeed.  Even Moto 2 didn't provide a spectacular race. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 11, 2016, 09:13:23 pm
From what I remember the COTA track has not produced a good spectacle. Hardly any overtaking, even in Moto3!

Indeed.  Even Moto 2 didn't provide a spectacular race. 

Just shows you, Rossi out and the whole day is a fail. Hey Bus? :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 12, 2016, 07:43:06 am
Just shows you, Rossi out and the whole day is a fail. Hey Bus? :ricky:
[/quote]


 :thumleft:  :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on April 12, 2016, 09:53:19 am
I think that if Marques could manage to not throw his bike down the road and finish every race, that he is going to be hard to beat.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 15, 2016, 11:57:06 am
Go to http://motocal.net/ (http://motocal.net/)

Select the race series that you want

Select your Operating System

Download

This will add the selected races to your specified Calendar.

Works like a charm!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 15, 2016, 12:22:42 pm
Go to http://motocal.net/ (http://motocal.net/)

Select the race series that you want

Select your Operating System

Download

This will add the selected races to your specified Calendar.

Works like a charm!!!
Dankie Bussie :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on April 15, 2016, 01:09:31 pm
Lekker een. Dankie Bus.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 15, 2016, 01:22:35 pm
Thanks Bus...looks lekke on the calendar for the rest of the year...  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 15, 2016, 01:35:38 pm
Awesome, thank you Bus!!!!! :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 22, 2016, 12:57:10 pm
Just a heads-up...MOTO GP this weekend...think it's in Spain  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 22, 2016, 01:01:50 pm
1.   Jorge Lorenzo      ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 40.270s    [Lap 14/16]   288km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Hector Barbera      ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 40.527s +0.257s   [16/18]   290km/h
3.   Valentino Rossi      ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 40.676s +0.406s   [21/21]   290km/h
4.   Dani Pedrosa      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 40.823s +0.553s   [16/19]   290km/h
5.   Marc Marquez      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 40.838s +0.568s   [12/20]   289km/h
6.   Maverick Viñales      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.925s +0.655s   [21/21]   286km/h
7.   Aleix Espargaro      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.995s +0.725s   [16/18]   284km/h
8.   Yonny Hernandez      COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.208s +0.938s   [16/18]   287km/h
9.   Andrea Dovizioso      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 41.380s +1.110s   [12/16]   294km/h
10.   Cal Crutchlow      GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 41.466s +1.196s   [19/19]   286km/h
11.   Andrea Iannone      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 41.648s +1.378s   [7/18]   294km/h
12.   Pol Espargaro      ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 41.815s +1.545s   [18/19]   289km/h
13.   Loris Baz      FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.947s +1.677s   [16/16]   285km/h
14.   Scott Redding      GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 42.029s +1.759s   [16/18]   289km/h
15.   Stefan Bradl      GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 42.132s +1.862s   [12/18]   286km/h
16.   Alvaro Bautista      ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 42.140s +1.870s   [16/17]   283km/h
17.   Eugene Laverty      IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 42.210s +1.940s   [10/18]   289km/h
18.   Bradley Smith      GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 42.279s +2.009s   [19/20]   287km/h
19.   Michele Pirro      ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 42.576s +2.306s   [16/19]   287km/h
20.   Tito Rabat      ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 43.050s +2.780s   [20/22]   281km/h
21.   Jack Miller      AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 43.130s +2.860s   [14/16]   282km/h
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 22, 2016, 01:02:50 pm
1.    Takaaki Nakagami    JPN IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex)    1m 42.642s 
2.    Lorenzo Baldassarri    ITA Forward Team (Kalex)    1m 42.805s 
3.    Simone Corsi    ITA Speed Up Racing (Speed Up)    1m 43.366s 
4.    Sam Lowes    GBR Federal Oil Gresini Moto2 (Kalex)    1m 43.651s 
5.    Johann Zarco    FRA Ajo Motorsport (Kalex)    1m 43.651s 
6.    Jonas Folger    GER Dynavolt Intact GP (Kalex)    1m 43.670s 
7.    Danny Kent    GBR Leopard Racing (Kalex)    1m 43.678s 
8.    Thomas Luthi    SWI Garage Plus Interwetten (Kalex)    1m 43.716s 
9.    Axel Pons    SPA AGR Team (Kalex)    1m 43.737s 
10.    Xavier Simeon    BEL QMMF Racing Team (Speed Up)    1m 43.798s 
11.    Alex Marquez    SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (Kalex)    1m 43.966s 
12.    Dominique Aegerter    SWI CarXpert Interwetten (Kalex)    1m 44.042s 
13.    Sandro Cortese    GER Dynavolt Intact GP (Kalex)    1m 44.063s 
14.    Hafizh Syahrin    MAL Petronas Raceline Malaysia (Kalex)    1m 44.135s 
15.    Alex Rins    SPA Paginas Amarillas HP 40 (Kalex)    1m 44.234s 
16.    Marcel Schrotter    GER AGR Team (Kalex)    1m 44.377s 
17.    Ratthapark Wilairot    THA IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia (Kalex)    1m 44.475s 
18.    Xavi Vierge    SPA Tech 3 Racing (Tech 3)    1m 44.494s 
19.    Franco Morbidelli    ITA Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (Kalex)    1m 44.500s 
20.    Luca Marini    ITA Forward Team (Kalex)    1m 44.533s 
21.    Miguel Oliveira    POR Leopard Racing (Kalex)    1m 44.539s 
22.    Luis Salom    SPA SAG Team (Kalex)    1m 44.550s 
23.    Edgar Pons    SPA Paginas Amarillas HP 40 (Kalex)    1m 44.688s 
24.    Mattia Pasini    ITA Italtrans Racing Team (Kalex)    1m 44.759s 
25.    Jesko Raffin    SWI Sports-Millions-EMWE-SAG (Kalex)    1m 44.907s 
26.    Julian Simon    SPA QMMF Racing Team (Speed Up)    1m 44.926s 
27.    Robin Mulhauser    SWI CarXpert Interwetten (Kalex)    1m 45.546s 
28.    Alessandro Tonucci    ITA Tasca Racing Scuderia Moto2 (Kalex)    1m 45.621s 
29.    Isaac Viñales    SPA Tech 3 Racing (Tech 3)    1m 46.050s 
30.    Federico Fuligni    ITA Team Ciatti (Kalex)    1m 46.479s 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 22, 2016, 01:04:27 pm
1.    Jorge Navarro    SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda)    1m 47.241s 
2.    Romano Fenati    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 47.473s 
3.    Nicolo Bulega    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 47.477s 
4.    Niccolò Antonelli    ITA Ongetta-Rivacold (Honda)    1m 47.809s 
5.    Brad Binder    RSA Red Bull KTM Ajo (KTM)    1m 47.839s 
6.    Fabio Quartararo    FRA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 48.080s 
7.    Francesco Bagnaia    ITA ASPAR Mahindra Team Moto3 (Mahindra)    1m 48.238s 
8.    Jorge Martin    SPA ASPAR Mahindra Team Moto3 (Mahindra)    1m 48.334s 
9.    Jakub Kornfeil    CZE Drive M7 SIC Racing Team (Honda)    1m 48.398s 
10.    Jules Danilo    FRA Ongetta-Rivacold (Honda)    1m 48.484s 
11.    Enea Bastianini    ITA Gresini Racing Moto3 (Honda)    1m 48.568s 
12.    Aron Canet    SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda)    1m 48.604s 
13.    Joan Mir    SPA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 48.726s 
14.    Hiroki Ono    JPN Honda Team Asia (Honda)    1m 48.738s 
15.    Tatsuki Suzuki    JPN CIP-Unicom Starker (Mahindra)    1m 48.962s 
16.    Andrea Locatelli    ITA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 49.027s 
17.    Philipp Oettl    GER Schedl GP Racing (KTM)    1m 49.141s 
18.    Livio Loi    BEL RW Racing GP BV (Honda)    1m 49.146s 
19.    Albert Arenas    SPA MRW Mahindra Aspar Team (Mahindra)    1m 49.439s 
20.    Karel Hanika    CZE Platinum Bay Real Estate (Mahindra)    1m 49.693s 
21.    Gabriel Rodrigo    ARG RBA Racing Team (KTM)    1m 49.708s 
22.    Davide Pizzoli    ITA Procercasa - 42 Motorsport (KTM)    1m 49.713s 
23.    Khairul Idham Pawi    MAL Honda Team Asia (Honda)    1m 49.743s 
24.    Alexis Masbou    FRA Peugeot MC Saxoprint (Peugeot)    1m 49.778s 
25.    Bo Bendsneyder    NED Red Bull KTM Ajo (KTM)    1m 49.792s 
26.    Fabio Di Giannantonio    ITA Gresini Racing Moto3 (Honda)    1m 49.823s 
27.    Andrea Migno    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 50.073s 
28.    Juanfran Guevara    SPA RBA Racing Team (KTM)    1m 50.278s 
29.    Adam Norrodin    MAL Drive M7 SIC Racing Team (Honda)    1m 50.371s 
30.    John McPhee    GBR Peugeot MC Saxoprint (Peugeot)    1m 50.436s 
31.    Lorenzo Petrarca    ITA 3570 Team Italia (Mahindra)    1m 50.530s 
32.    Maria Herrera    SPA MH6 Laglisse (KTM)    1m 50.746s 
33.    Enzo Boulom    FRA Procercasa - 42 Motorsport (KTM)    1m 51.096s 
34.    Fabio Spiranelli    ITA CIP-Unicom Starker (Mahindra)    1m 51.551s 
35.    Stefano Valtulini    ITA 3570 Team Italia (Mahindra)    1m 51.574s 
36.    Darryn Binder    RSA Platinum Bay Real Estate (Mahindra)    1m 52.625s 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 22, 2016, 01:10:51 pm
 :thumleft: cocky
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 22, 2016, 03:16:03 pm
1.   Jorge Lorenzo      ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 39.555s    [Lap 16/18]   287km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Marc Marquez      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 39.900s +0.345s   [6/18]   290km/h
3.   Aleix Espargaro      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.093s +0.538s   [16/16]   283km/h
4.   Hector Barbera      ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 40.229s +0.674s   [14/17]   292km/h
5.   Valentino Rossi      ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)      1m 40.282s +0.727s   [7/20]   286km/h
6.   Maverick Viñales      ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)      1m 40.448s +0.893s   [13/22]   286km/h
7.   Andrea Dovizioso      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 40.737s +1.182s   [13/15]   294km/h
8.   Scott Redding      GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 40.860s +1.305s   [14/17]   289km/h
9.   Dani Pedrosa      ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)      1m 40.925s +1.370s   [17/18]   289km/h
10.   Eugene Laverty      IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 40.925s +1.370s   [18/19]   293km/h
11.   Andrea Iannone      ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)      1m 41.017s +1.462s   [19/19]   295km/h
12.   Yonny Hernandez      COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.028s +1.473s   [15/17]   289km/h
13.   Cal Crutchlow      GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)      1m 41.112s +1.557s   [6/18]   288km/h
14.   Pol Espargaro      ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 41.167s +1.612s   [20/20]   290km/h
15.   Stefan Bradl      GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 41.178s +1.623s   [16/19]   288km/h
16.   Bradley Smith      GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)      1m 41.287s +1.732s   [20/20]   287km/h
17.   Loris Baz      FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)      1m 41.320s +1.765s   [14/15]   285km/h
18.   Alvaro Bautista      ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)      1m 41.573s +2.018s   [11/19]   285km/h
19.   Michele Pirro      ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)      1m 41.841s +2.286s   [18/18]   290km/h
20.   Jack Miller      AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)      1m 41.904s +2.349s   [4/15]   281km/h
21.   Tito Rabat      ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*      1m 42.230s +2.675s   [16/21]   282km/h
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 22, 2016, 03:17:40 pm
1.    Brad Binder    RSA Red Bull KTM Ajo (KTM)    1m 47.119s 
2.    Nicolo Bulega    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 47.400s 
3.    Niccolò Antonelli    ITA Ongetta-Rivacold (Honda)    1m 47.489s 
4.    Jorge Martin    SPA ASPAR Mahindra Team Moto3 (Mahindra)    1m 47.548s 
5.    Romano Fenati    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 47.632s 
6.    Francesco Bagnaia    ITA ASPAR Mahindra Team Moto3 (Mahindra)    1m 47.655s 
7.    Khairul Idham Pawi    MAL Honda Team Asia (Honda)    1m 47.950s 
8.    Jules Danilo    FRA Ongetta-Rivacold (Honda)    1m 48.002s 
9.    Enea Bastianini    ITA Gresini Racing Moto3 (Honda)    1m 48.009s 
10.    Fabio Quartararo    FRA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 48.052s 
11.    Andrea Migno    ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM)    1m 48.144s 
12.    Alexis Masbou    FRA Peugeot MC Saxoprint (Peugeot)    1m 48.212s 
13.    Aron Canet    SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda)    1m 48.222s 
14.    Livio Loi    BEL RW Racing GP BV (Honda)    1m 48.249s 
15.    Jakub Kornfeil    CZE Drive M7 SIC Racing Team (Honda)    1m 48.343s 
16.    Bo Bendsneyder    NED Red Bull KTM Ajo (KTM)    1m 48.360s 
17.    John McPhee    GBR Peugeot MC Saxoprint (Peugeot)    1m 48.427s 
18.    Karel Hanika    CZE Platinum Bay Real Estate (Mahindra)    1m 48.445s 
19.    Philipp Oettl    GER Schedl GP Racing (KTM)    1m 48.456s 
20.    Jorge Navarro    SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda)    1m 48.458s 
21.    Gabriel Rodrigo    ARG RBA Racing Team (KTM)    1m 48.559s 
22.    Juanfran Guevara    SPA RBA Racing Team (KTM)    1m 48.649s 
23.    Albert Arenas    SPA MRW Mahindra Aspar Team (Mahindra)    1m 48.759s 
24.    Fabio Di Giannantonio    ITA Gresini Racing Moto3 (Honda)    1m 48.853s 
25.    Joan Mir    SPA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 48.885s 
26.    Hiroki Ono    JPN Honda Team Asia (Honda)    1m 48.909s 
27.    Davide Pizzoli    ITA Procercasa - 42 Motorsport (KTM)    1m 48.985s 
28.    Maria Herrera    SPA MH6 Laglisse (KTM)    1m 49.017s 
29.    Andrea Locatelli    ITA Leopard Racing (KTM)    1m 49.085s 
30.    Adam Norrodin    MAL Drive M7 SIC Racing Team (Honda)    1m 49.186s 
31.    Tatsuki Suzuki    JPN CIP-Unicom Starker (Mahindra)    1m 49.546s 
32.    Darryn Binder    RSA Platinum Bay Real Estate (Mahindra)    1m 49.927s 
33.    Lorenzo Petrarca    ITA 3570 Team Italia (Mahindra)    1m 49.994s 
34.    Stefano Valtulini    ITA 3570 Team Italia (Mahindra)    1m 50.324s 
35.    Enzo Boulom    FRA Procercasa - 42 Motorsport (KTM)    1m 50.483s 
36.    Fabio Spiranelli    ITA CIP-Unicom Starker (Mahindra)    1m 51.365s 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 03:17:24 pm
#ForzaVale!

Today, he dished out some of their own medicine to JL99 and MM93.  Epic race for Rossi. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Aquatic on April 24, 2016, 04:33:21 pm
What a fecking boring MotoGP race.


Didn't see it, but it sounds like Binder had a stonking race.
 :blob3: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on April 24, 2016, 05:56:17 pm
Moto 3 was the one to watch
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rodlau on April 24, 2016, 07:15:36 pm
Brad is a star.  I did not record it but on again on DSTV tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2016, 08:14:40 pm
Should someone not go check up on Bus? Make sure he's allright? :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Jag man on April 24, 2016, 09:49:26 pm
Rethink what you said about Rossi ,
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 09:51:32 pm
Should someone not go check up on Bus? Make sure he's allright? :pot:

Yeah!  He may need The Doctor!   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on April 25, 2016, 08:29:00 am
 :laughing4:

Super chuffed for Brad, what a ride!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 25, 2016, 08:41:02 am
Rossi rode a flawless race, why would that upset me?

I don't mind other riders winning, unlike the yellow horde.

He def found some magic in his setup late in qualifying.

0.2s advantage per lap from the word Go

He deserved the win

However, nothing else mattered yesterday after Binder's ridiculous run from the back!!!

That was absolute magic!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: IceCreamMan on April 25, 2016, 08:55:32 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 09:10:57 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is usually very fast at Jerez.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: IceCreamMan on April 25, 2016, 09:14:41 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is usually very fast at Jerez.

he has not been for many a year hey. Rossi made the others  look like idiots.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 25, 2016, 09:15:07 am
What an awesome ride Brad!!!!! So proud of him... from the back, wow.... Isn't it just awesome cheering a local Boytjie at the top level
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 25, 2016, 09:15:48 am
Jerez been mostly Yamaha track
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Welsh on April 25, 2016, 09:16:24 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is such a chop, he LOVED putting the Spanish to the sword in their own GP.  8)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 25, 2016, 09:18:11 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is usually very fast at Jerez.

he has not been for many a year hey. Rossi made the others  look like idiots.


He did... But then again, the two behind him are!  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 25, 2016, 09:19:15 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is such a chop, he LOVED putting the Spanish to the sword in their own GP.  8)


Indeed, adding salt to a freshly sustained wound  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on April 25, 2016, 09:31:46 am
:laughing4:

Super chuffed for Brad, what a ride!!


+1000
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 10:18:28 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is such a chop, he LOVED putting the Spanish to the sword in their own GP.  8)

3 races in Spain, Spanish GP, not a single Spaniard winner.

Moto 3:  South African
Moto 2:  Britain
MotoGP:  Italian

The Spanish must be in tears.   :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 25, 2016, 10:39:49 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is such a chop, he LOVED putting the Spanish to the sword in their own GP.  8)

3 races in Spain, Spanish GP, not a single Spaniard winner.

Moto 3:  South African
Moto 2:  Britain
MotoGP:  Italian

The Spanish must be in tears.   :imaposer:


But the Spaniards are by far the most dominant nationality if one looks at the starting grids of Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP...I'm always remarking to my wife that it must be something in their water!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on April 25, 2016, 10:56:22 am
3 races in Spain, Spanish GP, not a single Spaniard winner.

Moto 3:  South African
Moto 2:  Britain
MotoGP:  Italian

The Spanish must be in tears.   :imaposer:

makes a pleasant change.
sunday's are usually multiple spanish anthems.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 10:57:59 am
Rossi was uncharacteristically fast at Jerez, not sure why and this was out of the norm that is motogp. dunno where or how he got the speed but I hope he can maintain...he made the oterhs look like amateurs

Rossi is such a chop, he LOVED putting the Spanish to the sword in their own GP.  8)

3 races in Spain, Spanish GP, not a single Spaniard winner.

Moto 3:  South African
Moto 2:  Britain
MotoGP:  Italian

The Spanish must be in tears.   :imaposer:


But the Spaniards are by far the most dominant nationality if one looks at the starting grids of Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP...I'm always remarking to my wife that it must be something in their water!!

They are indeed and it is not in the water.  They are the only country in the world that have racing classes with bike specs identical to the world championships.  These classes are Moto 3, Moto 2, World Supersport and World Superbikes.    Also note some other interesting Spanish connections:

-  One of the largest sponsors in MotoGP:  Repsol, a Spanish company.
-  Organiser and owner of both Moto GP and WSBK:  Dorna, a Spanish company
-  THREE of the 18 MotoGP races a year in Spain.

They also have one of the most effective motorcycle racing schools in the world.  Another interesting fact:

When Brad went to race Rookies Cup and then MotoGP his mom and dad bought a house in ..... you guessed it.  Spain.  Mom and Brad lived there while Dad and Darryn stayed here until Darryn also moved up.

Steven Odendaal, another Saffer getting ready for Moto2, is currently racing in the Moto2 Spanish championship.  (He is leading that after 2 races.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on April 25, 2016, 11:08:33 am
Its a bit chicken/egg I think. Which motivates/generates which...
Attendance at Jerez this past weekend was over 200 000 people for the weekend. Those types of numbers draw sponsors and organizers.

There must be some underlying passion within the Spanish.

I think it is awesome.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on April 25, 2016, 11:10:11 am
Thanks Bear...that explains it all then...similar to NZ with their Rugby Academy.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on April 25, 2016, 11:34:31 am
The Spanish excel in all kinds of motorbike racing, just think of Marc Coma / Jordi Viladoms in Rallye Racing, Iván Cervantes in Enduro/Rallye, Laia Sanz in Rallye, Enduro and Trials, Toni Bou / Adam Raga in Trials. The Spanish are motorbike CRAZY!!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 25, 2016, 11:35:53 am
The Spanish excel in all kinds of motorbike racing, just think of Marc Coma / Jordi Viladoms in Rallye Racing, Iván Cervantes in Enduro/Rallye, Laia Sanz in Rallye, Enduro and Trials, Toni Bou / Adam Raga in Trials. The Spanish are motorbike CRAZY!!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:



Exactly, did you see the bike parking at the Jerez circuit?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 11:43:35 am
Thanks Bear...that explains it all then...similar to NZ with their Rugby Academy.

Pleasure.  Over and above, they are motorsport mad.  Guys like JL99, MM93 and DP26 are bigger than rock stars in Spain. 

As said above, huge sponsorships.  I mean they can handle three GP's a year, the 2 x WSBK races and many Spanish Championship races.  Some countries can only obtain sponsorships for a single international race a year. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on April 25, 2016, 11:46:21 am
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 25, 2016, 11:55:27 am
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on April 25, 2016, 11:57:30 am
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:

Jys fokken dodgy... :lamer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 12:12:22 pm
The Spanish excel in all kinds of motorbike racing, just think of Marc Coma / Jordi Viladoms in Rallye Racing, Iván Cervantes in Enduro/Rallye, Laia Sanz in Rallye, Enduro and Trials, Toni Bou / Adam Raga in Trials. The Spanish are motorbike CRAZY!!

 :thumleft: :thumleft:


And golf, soccer, F1, jukskei and more.......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 12:13:00 pm
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:

I'm telling you...... :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 01:51:50 pm
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:

I'm telling you...... :imaposer:

Thankfully, everyone was so concentrated on the dodgy ECU, nobody noticed the Yamaha pit was missing a M1 motor .....   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 03:22:19 pm
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:

I'm telling you...... :imaposer:

Thankfully, everyone was so concentrated on the dodgy ECU, nobody noticed the Yamaha pit was missing a M1 motor .....   :lol8:

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on April 25, 2016, 04:56:49 pm
Thanks Bear...that explains it all then...similar to NZ with their Rugby Academy.

Pleasure.  Over and above, they are motorsport mad.  Guys like JL99, MM93 and DP26 are bigger than rock stars in Spain. 

As said above, huge sponsorships.  I mean they can handle three GP's a year, the 2 x WSBK races and many Spanish Championship races.  Some countries can only obtain sponsorships for a single international race a year. 

kak, DP26 isn't bigger than anyone!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on April 25, 2016, 04:59:54 pm
All I can say is Brad you're a star.  :ricky:

It was like he was the only one on a Moto2 bike.  :laughing4:

Bloody awesome.  :thumleft:

It was that dodgy ECU...

 :peepwall:

I'm telling you...... :imaposer:

Thankfully, everyone was so concentrated on the dodgy ECU, nobody noticed the Yamaha pit was missing a M1 motor .....   :lol8:

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
  MMMmmmm, and Brad is. . . . . a. . . . .Safrican.  :imaposer: ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ebredenhann on April 25, 2016, 06:05:22 pm
I see Knopkop mentioned the trials competitors like Tony Bou etc.  Which reminded me of something...about 2 - 3 years ago all the world series trials competitions were broadcasted on Friday evenings, think the program was called FIM or something.  Awesome to see the obstacles and skill of those guys.  But my question, non of that are being broadcasted on TV anymore, or do I miss it altogether?.  Where can one catch up on this and follow this with live videos etc.?   PS. I haven't googled yet, thought I will just ask here once I saw Tony's name...

cheers
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on April 25, 2016, 08:59:11 pm
I see Knopkop mentioned the trials competitors like Tony Bou etc.  Which reminded me of something...about 2 - 3 years ago all the world series trials competitions were broadcasted on Friday evenings, think the program was called FIM or something.  Awesome to see the obstacles and skill of those guys.  But my question, non of that are being broadcasted on TV anymore, or do I miss it altogether?.  Where can one catch up on this and follow this with live videos etc.?   PS. I haven't googled yet, thought I will just ask here once I saw Tony's name...

cheers

Slight hi-jack......  just search YouTube for Toni Bou:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoF6dPRXDsE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoF6dPRXDsE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg0HCAfPDkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg0HCAfPDkM)


 :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on April 26, 2016, 07:33:51 am
MotoGP ought to ban the winglets. Have you seen that Yamaha set up and now Honda coming out with 6 winglets.

One of these days someone will rock up with a formula one on the grid ... wings everywhere  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on April 26, 2016, 07:35:56 am
What are they supposed to be for?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on April 26, 2016, 07:48:04 am
Aerodynamics and supposedly keeps the front end down for better cornering and traction
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 26, 2016, 08:09:01 am
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 26, 2016, 09:43:10 am
MotoGP ought to ban the winglets. Have you seen that Yamaha set up and now Honda coming out with 6 winglets.

One of these days someone will rock up with a formula one on the grid ... wings everywhere  >:D
Blame that on DORNA/ FIA. They have screwed up what was a great formula, make a one off that cannot be bought and go racing, then they changed the tyres( control tyre )/ ECU/ traction control/ launch control etc. No the factories must find other ways of making the bikes faster, it makes for ugly looking bikes and I doubt any of this technology will filter down too the road bikes.
Moto2 is a joke, stock Honda 600cc engines that make less power that a Super Sport bike and all they are allowed are their own chassis, what a load of shyte. The step up to MotoGP will be too big for these guys, look at Titho Rabbit/ Jack Miller/ Thomas Luthi, they tried and showed flashes, but the step is too big for them cause the smaller bike is way under engineered and powered.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 26, 2016, 09:49:31 am
Wait until there is an accident and someone gets sliced and diced by these contraptions.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 26, 2016, 09:54:29 am
Cutting edge technology, pappa!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on April 26, 2016, 10:06:50 am
I doubt any of this technology will filter down too the road bikes.

kawa h2.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 26, 2016, 10:10:36 am
I doubt any of this technology will filter down too the road bikes.

kawa h2.
Listen teabag, they don't super charge or turbo charge MotoGP bikes. Now continue having coffee and reading Twitter.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Buff on April 26, 2016, 10:11:24 am
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit

Lorenzo needs bigger ones, because he's a bigger po3s >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on April 26, 2016, 11:34:20 am
Cutting edge technology, pappa!!!


Sharp one, Bus ......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: BB King on April 26, 2016, 11:43:22 am
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit

Lorenzo needs bigger ones, because he's a bigger po3s >:D

 :imaposer:  Agreed!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 26, 2016, 11:51:50 am
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit

Lorenzo needs bigger ones, because he's a bigger po3s >:D
No man, come on ..... his tyres were spinning, only on the straight not in the corners.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on April 26, 2016, 11:57:43 am
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit

Lorenzo needs bigger ones, because he's a bigger po3s >:D
No man, come on ..... his tyres were spinning, only on the straight not in the corners.


Jaaaaaaa  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 26, 2016, 01:22:23 pm
They fold around panty edges for better grip and fit

Lorenzo needs bigger ones, because he's a bigger po3s >:D
No man, come on ..... his tyres were spinning, only on the straight not in the corners.

Ja man, but only because he was not standing so he could not distribute his weight through the pegs to the rear wheel.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: evansv on April 26, 2016, 01:32:31 pm
That's because his winglets were putting too much down force on the front :lol8:   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 26, 2016, 04:21:41 pm
MotoGP ought to ban the winglets. Have you seen that Yamaha set up and now Honda coming out with 6 winglets.

One of these days someone will rock up with a formula one on the grid ... wings everywhere  >:D

Already banned on Moto 2 and Moto 3 banned from 2017.  MotoGP currently under investigation.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 26, 2016, 04:28:06 pm
Moto2 is a joke, stock Honda 600cc engines that make less power that a Super Sport bike and all they are allowed are their own chassis, what a load of shyte. The step up to MotoGP will be too big for these guys, look at Titho Rabbit/ Jack Miller/ Thomas Luthi, they tried and showed flashes, but the step is too big for them cause the smaller bike is way under engineered and powered.

The Moto2 chassis is build according to very specific specs.  The step up to MotoGP is fine.

Jack Miller went straight from Moto3 which is to big a step and is riding a 3rd string Honda.
Thomas Luthi is still racing in Moto 2.
Tito Rabat is racing a 2nd string Honda.

Look at Marc Marquez.  MotoGP World Champ first year after step up from Moto 2.

Moto 2, like Moto 3 is an incredibly competitive racing school.  Don't under estimate! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on April 26, 2016, 04:31:23 pm
BMW 1150 GSA came out with a scoop like that years ago. Thanks now I know the reason, keeping the frontwheel down. ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on April 26, 2016, 04:43:26 pm
Moto2 is a joke, stock Honda 600cc engines that make less power that a Super Sport bike and all they are allowed are their own chassis, what a load of shyte. The step up to MotoGP will be too big for these guys, look at Titho Rabbit/ Jack Miller/ Thomas Luthi, they tried and showed flashes, but the step is too big for them cause the smaller bike is way under engineered and powered.

The Moto2 chassis is build according to very specific specs.  The step up to MotoGP is fine.

Jack Miller went straight from Moto3 which is to big a step and is riding a 3rd string Honda.
Thomas Luthi is still racing in Moto 2.
Tito Rabat is racing a 2nd string Honda.

Look at Marc Marquez.  MotoGP World Champ first year after step up from Moto 2.

Moto 2, like Moto 3 is an incredibly competitive racing school.  Don't under estimate! 

NOT, sorry boet but I don't agree. There has been much said by many of the racing journalists on the matter. It is not close to the level of the old 250 class, lap times and excitement are proof of that.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 26, 2016, 04:52:02 pm
We will have to agree to disagree.  Moto 2 was the perfect replacement for 250GP.

2009 Jerez: 250GP /  2010 Jerez Moto 2 /2016 Jerez Moto2:  (Jerez)

Fastest Lap: 1.43,338 / 1.44,710 / 1.42,979
Top Speed: 248,8km/h / 248,7km/h  / 252,4


2015 Supersport / 2015 Superstock 600 / 2015 Moto2   (Aragon)

Fastest lap:  1.54,745 / 1.56,696 / 1.52,767
Top Speed:  269,3 / 258,4 / 282,5
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on April 26, 2016, 05:08:14 pm
We will have to agree to disagree.  Moto 2 was the perfect replacement for 250GP.

2009 Jerez: 250GP /  2010 Jerez Moto 2 /2016 Jerez Moto2:  (Jerez)

Fastest Lap: 1.43,338 / 1.44,710 / 1.42,979
Top Speed: 248,8km/h / 248,7km/h  / 252,4


2015 Supersport / 2015 Superstock 600 / 2015 Moto2   (Aragon)

Fastest lap:  1.54,745 / 1.56,696 / 1.52,767
Top Speed:  269,3 / 258,4 / 282,5

The one spec CBR600 motor is a kak idea.

The rest is cool.

Seven years on, the Moto2 is only 0.4s faster than 250s?

But on the other side of the coin, if they make the motors also prototype, the costs will soar.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 26, 2016, 06:37:41 pm
So why is the new 250's so gevrek? :eek7: :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 09:35:43 am
We will have to agree to disagree.  Moto 2 was the perfect replacement for 250GP.

2009 Jerez: 250GP /  2010 Jerez Moto 2 /2016 Jerez Moto2:  (Jerez)

Fastest Lap: 1.43,338 / 1.44,710 / 1.42,979
Top Speed: 248,8km/h / 248,7km/h  / 252,4


2015 Supersport / 2015 Superstock 600 / 2015 Moto2   (Aragon)

Fastest lap:  1.54,745 / 1.56,696 / 1.52,767
Top Speed:  269,3 / 258,4 / 282,5

The one spec CBR600 motor is a kak idea.

The rest is cool.

Seven years on, the Moto2 is only 0.4s faster than 250s?

But on the other side of the coin, if they make the motors also prototype, the costs will soar.

The class was on its way to a single bikes, therefore a single engine class anyway.  The last year of 250GP only 8 or the 29 bikes on the grid were not Aprilias.  Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda had all stopped producing bikes and Aprilia were making the same noises. 

What the new single engine Moto2 class did was bring frame builders, fairing builders and the suspension and brake people back into the class and with a vengeance.  The single engine idea worked like a charm bringing all the above back into the intermediate class, but it also sorted cost and reliability and filled the grid.  If the Honda engine idea is bad, their contract will expire in a year or so and then they, or another manufacturer will win that contract.  At he time they did get tenders for multiple manufacturers to produce engines according to specified spec (I remember Yamaha bid), but due to economies of scale it was too expensive.

Racing today, is as exciting as the 250GP's were, if not more so.  This is, of course, personal taste.

 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 09:39:03 am
I doubt any of this technology will filter down too the road bikes.

kawa h2.
Listen teabag, they don't super charge or turbo charge MotoGP bikes. Now continue having coffee and reading Twitter.

This Kawa in H2R form can do almost 400km/h top speed.  Apart from the boosting, where did the technology for the frame, suspension,  fairing aero dymamics, brakes, etc.  come from that makes that possible?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 09:50:04 am
So why is the new 250's so gevrek? :eek7: :peepwall:

Easy to answer.  They are not Yamahas.   :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 27, 2016, 10:11:42 am
So why is the new 250's so gevrek? :eek7: :peepwall:

Easy to answer.  They are not Yamahas.   :ricky:

Of course. :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 12:33:00 pm
MotoGP ought to ban the winglets. Have you seen that Yamaha set up and now Honda coming out with 6 winglets.

One of these days someone will rock up with a formula one on the grid ... wings everywhere  >:D

Any truth in the rumour that Ducati is involved in Boeing design?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 27, 2016, 08:36:16 pm
 :laughing4: as long as they do not build the engines. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 08:53:42 pm
Monday we saw MotoGP testing at Jerez.  What also happened was a meeting by the MotoGP Technical Commission.  They meet every few months and discuss rules, technical issues, etc.  Sometimes they bring in a rule to try fix an issue before it gets out of hand.

Jump back a bit.  We know Baz had a serious tire failure during test in Qatar and then Redding during free practise in Argentina.  Lots of noise about the Michelins not good enough.  Harder side walled tires were flown in.  Split races, etc.  Quietly under the noise there were whisperings about certain teams running tires below spec pressure to gain traction and this led to the failures.  Who knows what are the facts?

Interesting though, the MotoGP Commission just made a new rules.  From 20 May 2016, all MotoGP bikes MUST be fitted with tire pressure sensors that feed constant info to the telemetry ......   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on April 28, 2016, 07:35:04 am
:laughing4: as long as they do not build the engines. :eek7:

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on April 28, 2016, 07:40:59 am
Monday we saw MotoGP testing at Jerez.  What also happened was a meeting by the MotoGP Technical Commission.  They meet every few months and discuss rules, technical issues, etc.  Sometimes they bring in a rule to try fix an issue before it gets out of hand.

Jump back a bit.  We know Baz had a serious tire failure during test in Qatar and then Redding during free practise in Argentina.  Lots of noise about the Michelins not good enough.  Harder side walled tires were flown in.  Split races, etc.  Quietly under the noise there were whisperings about certain teams running tires below spec pressure to gain traction and this led to the failures.  Who knows what are the facts?

Interesting though, the MotoGP Commission just made a new rules.  From 20 May 2016, all MotoGP bikes MUST be fitted with tire pressure sensors that feed constant info to the telemetry ......   

that should sort that out. Let's hope it solves the problem. If tyre pressures are correct and the Michelins keep on giving grief......
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on April 28, 2016, 08:06:04 pm
 :biggrin: :big grin:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 29, 2016, 05:30:35 pm
 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on May 08, 2016, 05:15:00 pm
Rather an eventful race.  ::)

Lorenzo being the normal boring self tho.  :P

Pity the damn Dovi Duke puked out coolant all over Marks Honda. >:(

Well done Rossi.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 08, 2016, 06:48:42 pm
Pity the damn Dovi Duke puked out coolant all over Marks Honda. >:(



Dovi and Marc's crash was unrelated.  No coolant involved.   :thumleft:

Apparently they have decided to start a Syncronised Crashing team.   :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: SmuGS on May 08, 2016, 06:50:16 pm
Ja that was really wierd..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on May 09, 2016, 07:54:06 am
Pity the damn Dovi Duke puked out coolant all over Marks Honda. >:(



Dovi and Marc's crash was unrelated.  No coolant involved.   :thumleft:

Apparently they have decided to start a Syncronised Crashing team.   :lol8:


 :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on May 09, 2016, 09:16:11 am
Pity the damn Dovi Duke puked out coolant all over Marks Honda. >:(



Dovi and Marc's crash was unrelated.  No coolant involved.   :thumleft:

Apparently they have decided to start a Syncronised Crashing team.   :lol8:
I watched that crash on super slowmo and it really looked like there was something suddenly on Marc's screen before he lost it.  :-\

During the QP one of the commentators remarked on a water pump leaking on one of the Dukes back wheel.

I checked all over the net last night, but no mention anywhere of the reason for the syncronised fall, so it's just an opinion.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Avontier on May 09, 2016, 10:22:46 am
Watch it again. Slowly. You will see Rossi tap his heels twice just before they went down. He's that good.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 11:18:43 am
Pity the damn Dovi Duke puked out coolant all over Marks Honda. >:(



Dovi and Marc's crash was unrelated.  No coolant involved.   :thumleft:

Apparently they have decided to start a Syncronised Crashing team.   :lol8:
I watched that crash on super slowmo and it really looked like there was something suddenly on Marc's screen before he lost it.  :-\

During the QP one of the commentators remarked on a water pump leaking on one of the Dukes back wheel.

I checked all over the net last night, but no mention anywhere of the reason for the syncronised fall, so it's just an opinion.

Quote from: MM93
“I realised [Dovizioso] had crashed when I was already in the gravel. So it was not related. But yeah, was interesting because both of us lost the front at a really similar time,” Marquez confirmed.

“Honestly I was doing a great race because we had a lot of problems this weekend, but I was there close to the podium. That was the main target and the best result for today.

“But suddenly in Turn 5, I go in and I lost the front. Disappointed yes, but this happens when you lose a lot in acceleration. You need to recover on the brake points and riding like this during 28 laps it is easy to have this mistake. Because on the brake point is no control, only your finger and your feeling on the bike.

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230181/1/marquez-this-happens-if-you-lack-acceleration.html#6YXCqmvY4LvlSclb.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230181/1/marquez-this-happens-if-you-lack-acceleration.html#6YXCqmvY4LvlSclb.99)


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on May 09, 2016, 12:00:59 pm
Take away the electronic aids and the true masters come to the fore. I recon if you put all of the current guys on an old style 500, Rossi will be unbeatable.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 09, 2016, 08:00:47 pm
Watch it again. Slowly. You will see Rossi tap his heels twice just before they went down. He's that good.

 :imaposer: :imaposer: Funny of the month!!

Who can tell me which manufacturer came 1st and 2nd? :pot: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 10, 2016, 06:33:30 am
Watch it again. Slowly. You will see Rossi tap his heels twice just before they went down. He's that good.

 :imaposer: :imaposer: Funny of the month!!

Who can tell me which manufacturer came 1st and 2nd? :pot: :ricky:

Ooh!  Ooh!  Me!  Pick me!  I can!

Blue ones! 

How am I doing so far?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 10, 2016, 06:34:21 am
Watch it again. Slowly. You will see Rossi tap his heels twice just before they went down. He's that good.

 :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on May 16, 2016, 01:37:47 pm
Pedrosa at Honda for 2 more years confirmed.

Seems like Vinales has signed for the Yamaha factory team if the Spanish press is to be believed.

Next piece of the puzzle is who will be Jorge's team mate next year.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 16, 2016, 03:53:06 pm
Casey fokken Stoner!!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: sidetrack on May 16, 2016, 03:56:14 pm
Casey fokken Stoner!!!!!
Dog hy is moeg vir motorfietse of is sy geld nou op ?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 16, 2016, 03:58:07 pm
Ek wens maar net hardop.

Dit sal die beste ding ooit vir MotoGP wees!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on May 16, 2016, 04:41:30 pm
Casey fokken Stoner!!!!!
Dog hy is moeg vir motorfietse of is sy geld nou op ?

Hy's deesdae Ducati se test rider, hy hou nie van die limelight nie, maar bike ry is in sy bloed
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 16, 2016, 04:53:45 pm
Casey fokken Stoner!!!!!
Dog hy is moeg vir motorfietse of is sy geld nou op ?

Hy's deesdae Ducati se test rider, hy hou nie van die limelight nie, maar bike ry is in sy bloed

Ja maar onthou, hy het eens op 'n tyd vir Rossi gewen, en nie voor die almagtige legende neergebuig en aanbid nie.

So outomaties word hy name genoem word, en hy is bang, en hy moan... ens. ens. ens...

En nou, Vinales, imagine net die arme siel is vinniger as sy spanmaat volgende jaar.

:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 16, 2016, 05:01:40 pm
Pedrosa at Honda for 2 more years confirmed.

Seems like Vinales has signed for the Yamaha factory team if the Spanish press is to be believed.

Next piece of the puzzle is who will be Jorge's team mate next year.





Ja, but a week ago the Spanish press swore Dani had signed with Yamaha.


Casey fokken Stoner!!!!!
Dog hy is moeg vir motorfietse of is sy geld nou op ?

Hy's deesdae Ducati se test rider, hy hou nie van die limelight nie, maar bike ry is in sy bloed

Ja maar onthou, hy het eens op 'n tyd vir Rossi gewen, en nie voor die almagtige legende neergebuig en aanbid nie.

So outomaties word hy name genoem word, en hy is bang, en hy moan... ens. ens. ens...

En nou, Vinales, imagine net die arme siel is vinniger as sy spanmaat volgende jaar.

:laughing7:

Oh no!  He saw Rossi's name!  Quick!  QUICK!!!  Save yourself!

(http://images.medscape.com/pi/features/drugdirectory/octupdate/ROC00060.jpg)

 :imaposer:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: punisher on May 17, 2016, 09:49:43 am
if the Stoner oke comes back on track , every race would be declared a wet race


he cries more than JORGE
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 09:57:49 am
I rest my case
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 10:03:13 am
Lets see what happens when (not if) Vinales starts pressuring Rossi next year.

He will quickly join the existing list of evil Spanish cheaters/moaners/conspirators/connivers etc.

It's just how the sport works, see?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 10:26:06 am
I rest my case


Good!  Especially since your poor case is a tad over tired.   :imaposer:


Lets see what happens when (not if) Vinales starts pressuring Rossi next year.

He will quickly join the existing list of evil Spanish cheaters/moaners/conspirators/connivers etc.

It's just how the sport works, see?

Ah!  So?

If Vinales joins Ducati and pressure JL, JL would moan.
If Vinales joins Honda and pressure MM, MM would moan.

It is not a VR thing at all, just how the sport works?  I can agree to that, but then, why your "anti-Rossi the moangat" vitriol?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 10:27:57 am
It clearly went over your head
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 10:28:18 am
if the Stoner oke comes back on track , every race would be declared a wet race


he cries more than JORGE

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 10:29:02 am
It clearly went over your head

Maybe I should also wear a bra on my head to capture them, no?   :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 10:30:27 am
You seem to laugh an awful lot at your own posts?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 10:32:10 am
You seem to laugh an awful lot at your own posts?

 :biggrin:  Indeed, I do.  :lol8:   I find them hilarious.   :ricky:  Don't you?   :imaposer:

Also, it would be impossible to laugh in your posts .... 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 10:33:09 am
You seem to laugh an awful lot at your own posts?

 :biggrin:  Indeed, I do.  :lol8:   I find them hilarious.   :ricky:  Don't you?   :imaposer:


I do, but for different reasons

 ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 10:37:02 am
You seem to laugh an awful lot at your own posts?

 :biggrin:  Indeed, I do.  :lol8:   I find them hilarious.   :ricky:  Don't you?   :imaposer:


I do, but for different reasons

 ;)

Wonderful!  I would hate to find you are not entertained by my incredibly well thought out posts.









EDIT:

Awwww ...

The Fokken Main Moegoe won't play anymore ....   >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on May 17, 2016, 11:53:56 am
Lets see what happens when (not if) Vinales starts pressuring Rossi next year.

He will quickly join the existing list of evil Spanish cheaters/moaners/conspirators/connivers etc.

It's just how the sport works, see?

Lets just quote this again for reference
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on May 17, 2016, 04:01:55 pm
Andrea Dovizioso to remain at the factory Ducati Team, official.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 17, 2016, 04:16:38 pm
So Iannone is looking for a ride.

And Suzuki is looking for a rider

Interesting times
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 17, 2016, 05:12:10 pm
So Iannone is looking for a ride.

And Suzuki is looking for a rider

Interesting times

Interesting indeed.

Has it been confirmed that Vinales will go to Yamaha yet?

I like Ianone.  Would love to see him on a factory Yamie or Honda.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 17, 2016, 07:50:39 pm
Vinales can only beat Rossi by cheating. No other way. :snorting:

But seriously guys, I like Rossi and I am waiting for a competitor to ride him in his chops!

Of course, the Yamaha is a unfair advantage, almost like cheating right there.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: BB King on May 17, 2016, 08:24:52 pm
I'm seriously hoping Pedrosa with Rossi next year. After watching hitting the apex, he is a proper bloke. He's to MotoGP today what Mamola was was to 500's years ago... Just can't keep luck on his side. See he is fourth so far, behind Rossi!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on May 17, 2016, 08:29:18 pm
Vinales can only beat Rossi by cheating. No other way. :snorting:

Of course, the Yamaha is a unfair advantage, almost like cheating right there.

 :lol8:  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 18, 2016, 06:53:52 am
I'm seriously hoping Pedrosa with Rossi next year. After watching hitting the apex, he is a proper bloke. He's to MotoGP today what Mamola was was to 500's years ago... Just can't keep luck on his side. See he is fourth so far, behind Rossi!!!

Pedrosa already signed with Honda.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 18, 2016, 06:58:25 am
But seriously guys, I like Rossi and I am waiting for a competitor to ride him in his chops!


I like Rossi too.  He is the greatest.  Will he get beaten?  Of course he will, but that is besides the point because that is the path all great sportsmen eventually go.  It is just what it is.   

What makes Rossi truly great for me is the huge effort he is putting into the development of the sport, the development of young riders and various other off-track programs.

 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on May 18, 2016, 01:51:36 pm
But seriously guys, I like Rossi and I am waiting for a competitor to ride him in his chops!


I like Rossi too.  He is the greatest.  Will he get beaten?  Of course he will, but that is besides the point because that is the path all great sportsmen eventually go.  It is just what it is.   

What makes Rossi truly great for me is the huge effort he is putting into the development of the sport, the development of young riders and various other off-track programs.

 
Totally agree with you.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on May 19, 2016, 08:06:20 am
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on May 19, 2016, 09:03:32 am
Iannone to Suzuki, confirmed.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 19, 2016, 09:08:05 am
Musical chairs, hehehe...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 19, 2016, 10:03:02 am
Vinales to Yamaha.  Confirmed.

SILLY season, indeed! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on May 19, 2016, 11:49:16 am
Lorenzo to the back of the grid. Confirmed  >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 19, 2016, 08:41:57 pm
Lorenzo to the back of the grid. Confirmed  >:D

Why?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 19, 2016, 08:45:57 pm
Lorenzo to the back of the grid. Confirmed  >:D

Why?

Check his emoticon Dan.  Perhaps a think tank with some buddies required?   :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on May 20, 2016, 09:42:15 am
Lorenzo to the back of the grid. Confirmed  >:D

Why?

It starts with a D and is built in Italy  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 20, 2016, 09:33:02 pm
Lorenzo to the back of the grid. Confirmed  >:D

Why?

It starts with a D and is built in Italy  :lol8:

Oh, that 2 wheeled FIAT. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: XT JOE on May 21, 2016, 10:06:37 pm
The hills of Mugello exploded as Rossi took pole position for the Italian GP, holding off Viñales and Iannone in a gripping session.
The last eight races have seen the pole setter go on to take victory, the stat looming in the back of all the MotoGP™ riders’ minds as they headed out for Q2. Andrea Iannone (Ducati Team) was the man of the moment having topped both Free Practice 3 and 4, the Italian immediately sliding in behind Jorge Lorenzo (Movistar Yamaha MotoGP) for a tow. He was straight into the 1’46s with Marc Marquez (Repsol Honda Team) also getting under the 1’47s barrier immediately.

Sign of things maybe :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 02:57:43 pm
*()*&^&*())_()&%^(*&*(& Yamaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ???



Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on May 22, 2016, 03:31:30 pm
It was shaping up to be a monster finish!

Am I bad hoping they'd take each other out on the last lap?

What are the chances that 2 engines blow? Someone down the hall in engineering is not going to be having a good Monday.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on May 22, 2016, 03:51:43 pm
Yamaha engines blowing? Maybe they should change over to boxers... :lol8: :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2016, 05:09:30 pm
Yamaha engines blowing? Maybe they should change over to boxers... :lol8: :pot:

 :eek7: :eek7: :thumleft:  wat kan ek se? Ek het my lam geskrik toe n pel my hiervan vertel, en ek toe verstaan albei enjins het in die wedren geblaas :eek7:

Ek sou moes bedank uit Wilddogs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on May 22, 2016, 05:46:26 pm
Yamaha engines blowing? Maybe they should change over to boxers... :lol8: :pot:

 :eek7: :eek7: :thumleft:  wat kan ek se? Ek het my lam geskrik toe n pel my hiervan vertel, en ek toe verstaan albei enjins het in die wedren geblaas :eek7:

Ek sou moes bedank uit Wilddogs.
:imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 06:14:38 pm
Yamaha engines blowing? Maybe they should change over to boxers... :lol8: :pot:

Nooit gedink Rossi sal rerig die rook uit daai M1 uit ry nie!


Ek is so opgestress oor die ding en skyt sommer in 2SD se broek!   :angry4:

Yamaha engines blowing? Maybe they should change over to boxers... :lol8: :pot:

 :eek7: :eek7: :thumleft:  wat kan ek se? Ek het my lam geskrik toe n pel my hiervan vertel, en ek toe verstaan albei enjins het in die wedren geblaas :eek7:

Ek sou moes bedank uit Wilddogs.

Verkeerd verstaan.  JL se enjin het tydens die oggend se opwarming geblaas.

Kan jy onthou wanneer laas het 'n fabriek Yamie nie 'n MotoGP ren klaar gemaak nie?  Blixum!  Ek wed jou nie eers Google kan onthou nie.
 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2016, 06:31:35 pm
Ek het n seance gereel vanmiddag, en my ou oom gawie opgeroep uit 1979 en nie eers hy kan onthou van n Yam wat in n race opgeblaas het nie.

Toe mompel hy egter iets van dis hoekom Haydn of Stoner 1 jaar gewen het want toe het n Yam enjin 2 keer daai seisoen gekak.

Ek dink die Yamaha enjins is te gevorderd vir die ECU's wat hulle moet gebruik.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2016, 06:34:02 pm
*()*&^&*())_()&%^(*&*(& Yamaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ???





To think that the marvelous 2strokes were banned because of pollution. Right here in this single incident we have at least 5 seasons of 2stroke pollution.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 06:35:18 pm
Nuwe ECu's doen hulle job.  Die bikes is vinniger as laas jaar, maar daar is meer kompetisie, veral in die middelveld.

Het jy gesien die nuwe topspoed record?

Ianone op sy Ducati:  354,9km/h!  


 

To think that the marvelous 2strokes were banned because of pollution. Right here in this single incident we have at least 5 seasons of 2stroke pollution.


 :laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on May 22, 2016, 10:08:15 pm
Ag wat, selfs Yamahas het soms 'n, uhm, blaaskans nodig.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 23, 2016, 07:26:16 am
Ag wat, selfs Yamahas het soms 'n, uhm, blaaskans nodig.


 :laughing4: :laughing4: :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on May 23, 2016, 08:56:28 am

Am I bad hoping they'd take each other out on the last lap?


Dont feel bad, it is a fairly normal reaction by the Rossi fan boys, sometimes with good results :)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 23, 2016, 10:31:23 am
Ag wat, selfs Yamahas het soms 'n, uhm, blaaskans nodig.

Ja maar dis belangrik om jou "smoke break" ordentlik in die dag se gebeure in te pas.  Die Yamaha smaak my dink hy is van Afrika en op Afrika-tyd!   :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 23, 2016, 10:53:47 am
So where are all the loud mouths who crowed about the Italian master who taught the Spaniards a lesson in their own backyard?

P1 & P2 spaniards, and almost P3 also… (In Italy, remember...)

Karma doesn’t discriminate  ;)

It was a great race, pity Rossi couldn’t be there at the end.

Would’ve made a great race even better.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on May 23, 2016, 10:57:57 am
So where are all the loud mouths who crowed about the Italian master who taught the Spaniards a lesson in their own backyard?

P1 & P2 spaniards, and almost P3 also… (In Italy, remember...)

Karma doesn’t discriminate  ;)

It was a great race, pity Rossi couldn’t be there at the end.

Would’ve made a great race even better.




watched moto 1 & 2, 
soon as rossi's bike went bang,  the TV went back to cartoon network...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on May 23, 2016, 11:08:28 am
For a change MM was actually trying to pass JL.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on May 23, 2016, 11:12:55 am
For a change MM was actually trying to pass JL.

But he let him win in the end anyways, right?

:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on May 23, 2016, 11:22:39 am
The result is there for all to see  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 23, 2016, 11:29:39 am
So where are all the loud mouths who crowed about the Italian master who taught the Spaniards a lesson in their own backyard?

P1 & P2 spaniards, and almost P3 also… (In Italy, remember...)

Karma doesn’t discriminate  ;)

It was a great race, pity Rossi couldn’t be there at the end.

Would’ve made a great race even better.


Here I am.

No different to the previous Mugello races.  Spanish ruled at Mugello the previous few years.  In fact, you may well say Mugello is the property of Spain!
- 2015:  Lorenzo
- 2014:  Marquez
- 2013:  Lorenzo
- 2012:  Lorenzo
- 2011:  Lorenzo
- 2010:  Pedrosa
- 2009:  Stoner
- 2008:  Rossi

Karma?  What is Karma's race number?  What does he ride?  What did he have to do with anything?

A three way race to the end would have been awesome.  Pity it didn't work out that way.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 23, 2016, 11:30:32 am
watched moto 1 & 2, 
soon as rossi's bike went bang,  the TV went back to cartoon network...

You don't watch Moto 3!?  You are missing the best racing of all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on May 23, 2016, 11:31:44 am
watched moto 1 & 2, 
soon as rossi's bike went bang,  the TV went back to cartoon network...

You don't watch Moto 3!?  You are missing the best racing of all.

excuse me.
i watched the 3 and 2 races,  but not GP after the exploding motor.
brad was brilliant.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 23, 2016, 11:34:17 am
watched moto 1 & 2, 
soon as rossi's bike went bang,  the TV went back to cartoon network...

You don't watch Moto 3!?  You are missing the best racing of all.

excuse me.
i watched the 3 and 2 races,  but not GP after the exploding motor.
brad was brilliant.

 :thumleft:

First 15 riders covered by 2 seconds!  Awesome race to watch and of course, to see Brad win again! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on May 23, 2016, 03:10:27 pm
For a change MM was actually trying to pass JL.

But he let him win in the end anyways, right?

:laughing7:

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on May 25, 2016, 07:18:08 pm
Ek het n seance gereel vanmiddag, en my ou oom gawie opgeroep uit 1979 en nie eers hy kan onthou van n Yam wat in n race opgeblaas het nie.

Toe mompel hy egter iets van dis hoekom Haydn of Stoner 1 jaar gewen het want toe het n Yam enjin 2 keer daai seisoen gekak.

Ek dink die Yamaha enjins is te gevorderd vir die ECU's wat hulle moet gebruik.

Jou Oom Gawie se gees is nogal Googleagtig.  Dit was op Misano in 2007 wat 'n Yamie laas enjin geblaas het.  Yamaha was moer gelukkig want Lorenzo se enjin het in die laaste rondte van die opwarming oefening geblaas en hy het een rondte meer gery as wat beplan was.  Kan jy dink altwee Yamies blaas enjins in dieselfde ren!

Die span kan dalk 'n kopseer hê.  Hulle was altwee op hulle derde enjins vir die seisoen en het dus net 4 elk oor vir die res van die seisoen.

Yamaha wys ook so effe halfhartig vinger na die ECU.  Blykbaar laat dit toe dat die agterwiel so spin dat die enjin over rev want die rev limiter is te poef!  Ek sou dink hulle sal daai ekstra revs laaik op 'n lang main straight.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on June 03, 2016, 05:24:54 pm
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230977/1/luis-salom-dies-from-injuries-at-catalunya.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230977/1/luis-salom-dies-from-injuries-at-catalunya.html)

Haven't seen any footage of the accident.

RIP

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on June 03, 2016, 06:00:13 pm
 :o  :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: punisher on June 03, 2016, 06:06:38 pm
Not good at all
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 03, 2016, 06:26:19 pm
R.I.P  Luis and condolences to the loved ones left behind.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on June 03, 2016, 06:51:11 pm
Jeez, that's a tough one.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 03, 2016, 08:21:57 pm
Practise, qualifying and race will go ahead, after consultation with the family, safety commission and race direction.  They will however use the F1 layout of the track, i.e. a chicane in place of the corner where Luis crashed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Howie-WP on June 03, 2016, 09:09:43 pm
Fast corner, tar runoff,  no gravel and talk that riders where not happy with that fact for this corner. RIP  :( :(

https://youtu.be/uML9T3vCEUY (https://youtu.be/uML9T3vCEUY)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 03, 2016, 09:19:30 pm
Fast corner, tar runoff,  no gravel and talk that riders where not happy with that fact for this corner. RIP  :( :(

https://youtu.be/uML9T3vCEUY (https://youtu.be/uML9T3vCEUY)

That is the track configuration that was approved by the Safety Commission and all other parties and had been in use ever since.  Two or three years ago they tested the F1 configuration, but due to rider response decided not to change.  Some riders may have been unhappy with this configuration, but if they really were, it would have changed.  Keep in mind the Safety Commission have riders on it.  Currently they are Marc Marquez, Andrea Iannone, Pol Espargaro, Jack Miller, Bradley Smith, Alvaro Bautista, Aleix Espargaro, Andrea Dovizioso, Tito Rabat and Cal Crutchlow.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Howie-WP on June 03, 2016, 09:32:48 pm
That is the track configuration that was approved by the Safety Commission and all other parties and had been in use ever since.  Two or three years ago they tested the F1 configuration, but due to rider response decided not to change.  Some riders may have been unhappy with this configuration, but if they really were, it would have changed.  Keep in mind the Safety Commission have riders on it.  Currently they are Marc Marquez, Andrea Iannone, Pol Espargaro, Jack Miller, Bradley Smith, Alvaro Bautista, Aleix Espargaro, Andrea Dovizioso, Tito Rabat and Cal Crutchlow.

Figures he would be  :imaposer:

Yip, understand that, really surprised by the lack of gravel runoff, when I was on the MSA regional comm in Cpt, lots of changes where introduced wrt making circuits more rider crash friendly, most stemming directly from FIM standards (obviously not to MotoGP spec) but using recommendations.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on June 04, 2016, 12:30:30 am
On the video, he low sides and he slides in after the bike. He had separated before he left the tar.

He's going quickly, but markedly slower than the bike when he goes in. Another 20 or 30 meters and he'd have stopped.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 1190 on June 04, 2016, 06:30:32 am
RIP Luis  :(
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on June 04, 2016, 06:36:30 am
Sad reality of the sport and pass time we all love. RIP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: adamktm on June 04, 2016, 06:52:19 am
On the video, he low sides and he slides in after the bike. He had separated before he left the tar.

He's going quickly, but markedly slower than the bike when he goes in. Another 20 or 30 meters and he'd have stopped.

Looks as if the bike collapses or lifts the air fence and he hits whatever is behind there without any cushioning.

RIP Luis
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 09:03:00 am
On the video, he low sides and he slides in after the bike. He had separated before he left the tar.

He's going quickly, but markedly slower than the bike when he goes in. Another 20 or 30 meters and he'd have stopped.

Looks as if the bike collapses or lifts the air fence and he hits whatever is behind there without any cushioning.

RIP Luis

The video is not very clear, but it seems you are correct.  The bike moves / destroys the air wall and then he goes in, either hitting the bike, or whatever is behind the air wall.  Extremely unlikely scenario and even more unlucky.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on June 04, 2016, 05:53:51 pm
Fascinating how an extra 2 turns completely changes how the bike needs to be set up
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: lj111 on June 04, 2016, 08:41:12 pm
Sad reality of the sport and pass time we all love. RIP.

+1000
RIP Luis
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 09:33:02 pm
Fascinating how an extra 2 turns completely changes how the bike needs to be set up

On total it is four extra turns, but yes, absolutely fascinating.  Changes the whole face of the race.

Check out map below.  Red circles indicate new turns.  Blue lines show areas now cut out.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on June 05, 2016, 09:42:52 am
Is there a story behind JL number font change?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on June 05, 2016, 09:43:33 am
Thanks again Bear for your insights
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 09:48:03 am
Is there a story behind JL number font change?

No idea.  I remember seeing that font before, but I can't remember when.  Wild guess.  Something he does for his home race?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on June 05, 2016, 02:43:36 pm
The Maniac again. When will they throw th book at this idiot
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Battlestar on June 05, 2016, 03:51:39 pm
The book will be thrown at him this time. No doubt.

Rossi the king lives. Fantastic race and a fitting hand shake under the circumstances  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on June 05, 2016, 05:22:44 pm
Lovely battle for the win,  with the dr showing mm who's boss
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 05:37:36 pm
Lekker dice between VR46 and MM93.  We don't see them too often.  Vale now kicked Spanish posterior, in Spain twice this year.  Awesomeness!

Although I am happy for the points gained by VR46 when JL99 went down, I am thinking Ionone should do sobriety tests prior to race start.  He is riding like a drunk, or a beginner and we know he is not a beginner.  Hell, not even JL99's biggest hater wanted to see that happen to him.

Brad Binder almost suffered a similar fate in Moto 3.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: KJ on June 05, 2016, 05:43:09 pm
I don't think Iannone is vindictive, just way ambitious. Who knows what will happen to him now. This is sad that he does these things though because he is sometimes damn fast. Maybe Ducati was correct in letting him go instead of Dovi.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 05:45:58 pm
I don't think Iannone is vindictive, just way ambitious. Who knows what will happen to him now. This is sad that he does these things though because he is sometimes damn fast. Maybe Ducati was correct in letting him go instead of Dovi.

No.  Not vindictive.  At present way too ambitious.  Perhaps trying to hard to show Ducati was wrong to let him go.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 06:45:36 pm
The Maniac again. When will they throw th book at this idiot

The book was thrown.  He will start last on the grid for the next race at Assen.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on June 05, 2016, 06:48:03 pm
Maybe JL should learn from our Binder how to stay upright n these circumstances...  :pot:

I kid, I kid.

Bummer for JL, though, although it seems his bike was letting hime down even before the incident.

Oh, and well done, Brad!! Off course, VR too.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 06:52:27 pm
Interesting.  AI said he braked exactly where he always braked.  JL was much slower than normal.  AI reckons his telemetry will show that.

Maybe JL should learn from our Binder how to stay upright n these circumstances...  :pot:

I reckon Brad's guardian angel and all of her siblings are on double dose Valium tonight!   :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on June 05, 2016, 07:01:55 pm
Interesting.  AI said he braked exactly where he always braked.  JL was much slower than normal.  AI reckons his telemetry will show that.

Judging by JL's drop in performance I'm inclined to believe AI.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: XT JOE on June 05, 2016, 07:30:20 pm
Lekker dice between VR46 and MM93.  We don't see them too often.  Vale now kicked Spanish posterior, in Spain twice this year.  Awesomeness!


Absolutely racing like Mugello's last lap between JL and MM--- really enjoyed. How can JL go so off line after 4-5 excellent laps???
Anyway makes for interesting season
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on June 05, 2016, 08:17:56 pm
Bummer for JL...sad and sorry for IA (think he is too emotional and tries too hard)...BUT at age 37 VR46 MUST be showing to the world that he is simply in a CLASS of his own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 08:32:10 pm
Bummer for JL...sad and sorry for IA (think he is too emotional and tries too hard)...BUT at age 37 VR46 MUST be showing to the world that he is simply in a CLASS of his own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just call him the GOAT.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JWP on June 06, 2016, 08:19:12 am
I think that Lorenzo has proved once again that he can only win when everything is set up perfectly and all working. He cannot ride around a problem. Last time in Spain he blamed the tires. Rossi had the same problem, but he knows how to ride without aids.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on June 06, 2016, 09:27:24 am
And there was that handshake which was nice to see.

Good for the sport overall I think.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 06, 2016, 09:36:32 am
And there was that handshake which was nice to see.

Good for the sport overall I think.





Had a good giggle.  At the after race press conference, the press nagged Rossi about the hand shake.  He explained that with the death of Luis Salom he realised life is too short.  Then they kept on asking.  Last question was: "Do you think the handshake will change your relationship with Marquez? "

Rossi:  "Yes."   Then remained quiet.

Marques, slaps Rossi on shoulder: "Okay."

Then clear neither would talk about it anymore.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Buff on June 06, 2016, 10:33:15 am
I think that Lorenzo has proved once again that he can only win when everything is set up perfectly and all working. He cannot ride around a problem. Last time in Spain he blamed the tires. Rossi had the same problem, but he knows how to ride without aids.

When you spend most of your off time drifting a 450FX sideways around a dirt track in your back yard, I'm not surprised The Doctor can handle a little bit of tire degradation on his GP bike  ;)  ;D :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 06, 2016, 10:50:51 am
I think that Lorenzo has proved once again that he can only win when everything is set up perfectly and all working. He cannot ride around a problem. Last time in Spain he blamed the tires. Rossi had the same problem, but he knows how to ride without aids.

Seems JL99 is now in a place where he is able to see it and admit to it.

Quote from: JL99

Jorge Lorenzo revealed that front tyre graining was the reason for his loss of speed, after leading the early stages of Sunday's Catalunya MotoGP.

The reigning world champion blasted past pole sitter Marc Marquez into Turn 1 and continued to head the field for the opening six laps.

But he then began to drop back through the pack, and was down in fifth place by lap 12 of 25.

“At the beginning I made a good start and with new tyres I was more or less at the same level as the other riders. But as I knew before the race, if I started to have graining on the front tyre I will struggle. This is what happened,” said Lorenzo, speaking to the trackside media.

“Rossi, with the same bike, didn't have so much graining. Looks like he rides differently than me and he can save more the front tyre, normally. Also he is very good in difficult conditions, in conditions with no grip.

“Today he made an unbelievable race. I could not ride like him and could not change my riding style to avoid the front tyre problems, in all the weekend. This is the truth.”

After fighting the tyre issues for 17 laps, Lorenzo was taken out of the race by Andrea Iannone.

A second DNF of the season leaves the Spaniard 10-points behind new world championship leader Marc Marquez, who finished second to Valentino Rossi on Sunday.




http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231067/1/lorenzo-rossi-made-an-unbelievable-race.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231067/1/lorenzo-rossi-made-an-unbelievable-race.html)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Howie-WP on June 06, 2016, 08:32:19 pm
dat Marques front end save .....  :eek7: :patch: :ricky:

https://streamable.com/xgvv (https://streamable.com/xgvv)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on June 06, 2016, 09:13:05 pm
dat Marques front end save .....  :eek7: :patch: :ricky:

https://streamable.com/xgvv (https://streamable.com/xgvv)

awesomness   :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on June 07, 2016, 12:08:27 pm
MM is exiting to watch, I love the way he goes into a corner on the front wheel and the slaps the rear down at exactly the right angle and place.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on June 07, 2016, 12:22:15 pm
dat Marques front end save .....  :eek7: :patch: :ricky:

https://streamable.com/xgvv (https://streamable.com/xgvv)
Not the first time he's done that. Very impressive.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on June 07, 2016, 12:49:59 pm
What VR46 and MM93 is doing in their time off:

(http://www.efemotor.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files//2014/01/635250726484413559w.jpg)

(http://naikmotor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Motor-Ranch-Rossi.jpg)

(http://img.scoop.it/w5kwU1j7YoxXmD6NAnap3jl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9)





AND....what JL99 is doing during his time off....

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n42/diesel_rainbow/MotoGP%20Photos/GP03012lorenzocinema.jpg) (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/diesel_rainbow/media/MotoGP%20Photos/GP03012lorenzocinema.jpg.html)

 :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 07, 2016, 12:52:01 pm
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on June 07, 2016, 01:06:52 pm
The pic of JL99 was his reply to one of VR46's end of race, winning a race antics. Think it was the year before last.

He was implying that he won that race (cannot remember which one it was) by such a big margin that he had time to get his chair, popcorn and cool drink out in time to watch the rest finish on the big screen.

It was a rare occasion the JL pulled one over VR, quite funny at the time.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: IceCreamMan on June 07, 2016, 01:37:50 pm
I think that Lorenzo has proved once again that he can only win when everything is set up perfectly and all working. He cannot ride around a problem. Last time in Spain he blamed the tires. Rossi had the same problem, but he knows how to ride without aids.

Seems JL99 is now in a place where he is able to see it and admit to it.

Quote from: JL99

Jorge Lorenzo revealed that front tyre graining was the reason for his loss of speed, after leading the early stages of Sunday's Catalunya MotoGP.

The reigning world champion blasted past pole sitter Marc Marquez into Turn 1 and continued to head the field for the opening six laps.

But he then began to drop back through the pack, and was down in fifth place by lap 12 of 25.

“At the beginning I made a good start and with new tyres I was more or less at the same level as the other riders. But as I knew before the race, if I started to have graining on the front tyre I will struggle. This is what happened,” said Lorenzo, speaking to the trackside media.

“Rossi, with the same bike, didn't have so much graining. Looks like he rides differently than me and he can save more the front tyre, normally. Also he is very good in difficult conditions, in conditions with no grip.

“Today he made an unbelievable race. I could not ride like him and could not change my riding style to avoid the front tyre problems, in all the weekend. This is the truth.”

After fighting the tyre issues for 17 laps, Lorenzo was taken out of the race by Andrea Iannone.

A second DNF of the season leaves the Spaniard 10-points behind new world championship leader Marc Marquez, who finished second to Valentino Rossi on Sunday.




http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231067/1/lorenzo-rossi-made-an-unbelievable-race.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231067/1/lorenzo-rossi-made-an-unbelievable-race.html)

he carries on like that he will have more fans that's for sure....instead of blaming the the fog or the mosquitos or or or ....

being magnanimous like this will increase his fan base
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on June 07, 2016, 03:26:33 pm
The Brad Binder save was quite rectangular too  :o
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on June 08, 2016, 01:24:35 pm
The Brad Binder save was quite rectangular too  :o

Yip he definitely circled the problem
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Whethefakawe on June 13, 2016, 12:52:05 am
This is what a corporal I knew at bike squad in 1981 called a 'muis p**s gesiggie'

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/bikesquadrider/lorenzo_zpsx1rw5fbl.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/bikesquadrider/media/lorenzo_zpsx1rw5fbl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on June 13, 2016, 09:02:30 am
This is what a corporal I knew at bike squad in 1981 called a 'muis p**s gesiggie'

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/bikesquadrider/lorenzo_zpsx1rw5fbl.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/bikesquadrider/media/lorenzo_zpsx1rw5fbl.jpg.html)


Hahahahahahaha..... Feite!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on June 13, 2016, 09:05:47 am
Dit werk net so lekker sonder die "muis" gedeelte

:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on June 13, 2016, 09:14:26 am
The Brad Binder save was quite rectangular too  :o

Yip he definitely circled the problem

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Blame Bill Gates  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bensien on June 17, 2016, 05:35:30 pm
Latest gossip is that BMW is entering MotoGP next year, with Marco Milandri as ther No.1 rider
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 17, 2016, 06:21:20 pm
Latest gossip is that BMW is entering MotoGP next year, with Marco Milandri as ther No.1 rider

Very unlikely.   In fact, basically impossible for 2017.  There is only one grid position available and the bidding for that has come and gone and that spot will remain empty for 2017.  Also, BMW seems not to be interested:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/)

There is a small possibility.  Either the Aspar Team, or Team LCR use S1000RR's  as they have not yet signed contracts with a manufacturer for a bike.  I suppose it is possible for them to use a road bike based bike, but also unlikely since the rules state that the factory teams must make bikes available to other teams.  Neither Suzuki, Aprilia ir KTM is currently doing so.    I reckon both Aspar and LCR (Traditionally a Honda Team) would rather go for a MotoGP bike from Suzuki, Aprilia or KTM than a road bike from BMW.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bensien on June 18, 2016, 07:47:04 am
Latest gossip is that BMW is entering MotoGP next year, with Marco Milandri as ther No.1 rider

Very unlikely.   In fact, basically impossible for 2017.  There is only one grid position available and the bidding for that has come and gone and that spot will remain empty for 2017.  Also, BMW seems not to be interested:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/)

There is a small possibility.  Either the Aspar Team, or Team LCR use S1000RR's  as they have not yet signed contracts with a manufacturer for a bike.  I suppose it is possible for them to use a road bike based bike, but also unlikely since the rules state that the factory teams must make bikes available to other teams.  Neither Suzuki, Aprilia ir KTM is currently doing so.    I reckon both Aspar and LCR (Traditionally a Honda Team) would rather go for a MotoGP bike from Suzuki, Aprilia or KTM than a road bike from BMW.

Like I said, it's gossip at this stage
https://motorlands.eu/2016/06/16/marco-melandri-bmw-moto-gp/ (https://motorlands.eu/2016/06/16/marco-melandri-bmw-moto-gp/)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 18, 2016, 11:19:51 am
Latest gossip is that BMW is entering MotoGP next year, with Marco Milandri as ther No.1 rider

Very unlikely.   In fact, basically impossible for 2017.  There is only one grid position available and the bidding for that has come and gone and that spot will remain empty for 2017.  Also, BMW seems not to be interested:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/february/bmw-motogp-has-no-appeal-for-us/)

There is a small possibility.  Either the Aspar Team, or Team LCR use S1000RR's  as they have not yet signed contracts with a manufacturer for a bike.  I suppose it is possible for them to use a road bike based bike, but also unlikely since the rules state that the factory teams must make bikes available to other teams.  Neither Suzuki, Aprilia ir KTM is currently doing so.    I reckon both Aspar and LCR (Traditionally a Honda Team) would rather go for a MotoGP bike from Suzuki, Aprilia or KTM than a road bike from BMW.

Like I said, it's gossip at this stage
https://motorlands.eu/2016/06/16/marco-melandri-bmw-moto-gp/ (https://motorlands.eu/2016/06/16/marco-melandri-bmw-moto-gp/)

And as we say, "waar daar 'n rokie is, is daar 'n vuurtjie".  

I stated earlier it would be impossible or close to that for 2017, possibly even as far as 2021.  Of course, we have seen Dorna change their rules rather regularly if it suited them, in the past, but I would still be extremely surprised nevertheless.  Then, as I also said, two teams (Aspar and LCR) have not yet announced riders, or bikes, but if I understand the Dorna rules correctly, these two teams will only have a choice of 6 bikes.  Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Ducati, KTM and Aprilia since the contracts with these 6 teams was signed for 2017 to 2021

Would be an interesting space to watch though.

Anther rumour concerning Marco Melandri, which have more of a "possible" ring to it is that he will enter WSBK in the PATA sponsored team in 2017.  This is more likely as PATA is an Italian company who would like to sponsor a Italian rider.  The current PATA riders are just not making any impression whatsoever.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on June 26, 2016, 05:36:04 pm
Watched the race delayed. What a mess today!

Jack Miller is such a  nice guy!

Lorenzo dodged a serious bullet with Rossi's crash.

I think the red flag was maybe a bit premature. Usually the riders put their hands up if they feel things are getting too hairy.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on June 26, 2016, 06:00:07 pm
Ek het nie gekyk nie. Het dit gereën?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on June 26, 2016, 06:05:34 pm
Moer baie. Race gestop omtrent halfpad.

Ouens terug pits toe en met nuwe full wets weggespring.

Lorenzo was nêrens.

Maar gelukkig vir hom, het Rossi geval uit p1, Marquez het oor gevat.

Jack Miller toe verby Marquez vir die wen.

Almal het heen en weer geval.

Was morsig
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 26, 2016, 06:59:52 pm
Official.  From 2017 winglets banned from MotoGP class as well.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Karel Kat on June 27, 2016, 09:16:54 am
Moer baie. Race gestop omtrent halfpad.

Ouens terug pits toe en met nuwe full wets weggespring.

Lorenzo was nêrens.

Dis jammer, ek was nog altyd 'n fan van Lorenzo want niemand anders lyk so goed en so vinnig om 'n draai nie. Maar dit gebeur net as toestande perfek is. Hy verdien dit nie eintlik om weer die kampioen te word nie. Sal maar vir die ou man cheer van hier af.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on June 27, 2016, 09:32:49 am
If Marques just rides with his head from now on an keep on finishing in the top 3 he would be champion...and deservedly so! I think the Moto gp guys were trying to hard in the second race and therefor all the falls. Rossi needs to finish first and was pushing hard.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on June 27, 2016, 09:47:50 am
Interesting deurmekaar race. . . . but oh so chuffed about Lorenzo.  :laughing4:

I agree that he does not deserve to be champion. If he is not in front, the bike/tyres/panty liner/ visor is not 100%, he wimps out.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on June 27, 2016, 09:59:38 am
Awesome race, and some great excitement. Pity about the Dr's fall, but so it goes. Great watch nonetheless, and I'm still rooting for him to get one more championship.

Brad also managed to save his close-shave-high-side quite nicely, even though he finished way back. Some good riding!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 27, 2016, 10:34:52 am
JL99:  "I never felt save.  I wanted to quit.  It was to dangerous."

VR46: "I made a big mistake!  I threw many points away."

One is a legend for a reason.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: whitedelight on June 27, 2016, 10:53:40 am
Lol
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 27, 2016, 10:57:56 am
Lady Luck is a cruel mistress.

When the race was stopped, had it been 66% and therefore a race, the result would have been:

1.  Dovi
2.  Petrucci
3.  Rossi

In the restarted race they were:

DNF.  Dovi
DNF.  Petrucci
DNF.  Rossi.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on June 27, 2016, 11:58:59 am
Ahh, I was out at Jerry's having a great burger and a beer with a smile on my face, just a little smile, nothing too flashy, not like a from the belly laugh WAAA HA HA, its not like I pointed and went "LOOSER" to the Rossi fans.. I just smiled, finished my burger and beer and went home satisified.

Props to Jack.. so lekker so see okes drinking champaign out of their boots  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: MikeH on June 27, 2016, 12:57:48 pm
http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/the-true-stories-behind-valentino-rossis-wild-helmets?roi=echo3-35401765956-36068086-58a02e085d125f9ab3a6b12732243089&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BBNews&utm_source=Fri_062416_BBNEWS&utm_content=rossi_helmet_stories (http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/the-true-stories-behind-valentino-rossis-wild-helmets?roi=echo3-35401765956-36068086-58a02e085d125f9ab3a6b12732243089&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BBNews&utm_source=Fri_062416_BBNEWS&utm_content=rossi_helmet_stories)             

The True Stories Behind Valentino Rossi’s Wild Helmets
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 27, 2016, 01:01:10 pm
http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/the-true-stories-behind-valentino-rossis-wild-helmets?roi=echo3-35401765956-36068086-58a02e085d125f9ab3a6b12732243089&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BBNews&utm_source=Fri_062416_BBNEWS&utm_content=rossi_helmet_stories (http://www.bikebandit.com/blog/post/the-true-stories-behind-valentino-rossis-wild-helmets?roi=echo3-35401765956-36068086-58a02e085d125f9ab3a6b12732243089&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BBNews&utm_source=Fri_062416_BBNEWS&utm_content=rossi_helmet_stories)             

The True Stories Behind Valentino Rossi’s Wild Helmets

After Sunday's crash, he will have to use the "The Donkey" helmet again.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on June 28, 2016, 08:58:12 am
I heard the best pass of the weekend was on Rossie, when his bike passed him
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on June 28, 2016, 09:05:20 am
I don't know why everyone is giving Lorenzo a hard time.

He kakked off, yes, and rode like a pussy.

Which seems to have been the correct strategy, seeing that he actually scored points.

Would you rather go balls out and crash, and receive your pat on the back?

Or take it easy, and collect a couple of points in the process?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ZK1 on June 28, 2016, 09:12:22 am
I don't know why everyone is giving Lorenzo a hard time.

He kakked off, yes, and rode like a pussy.

Which seems to have been the correct strategy, seeing that he actually scored points.

Would you rather go balls out and crash, and receive your pat on the back?

Or take it easy, and collect a couple of points in the process?
That is something I would do........but I'm very far from a racer. These guys can do what they do because of the way they think. Rossi was obviously way faster then Lorenzo but then lost it.....which I think isn't very hard to do at the level these guys ride. He is'nt 9 times world champ for settling for 10th or 12th.

Yes I'm a Rossi fan... :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 28, 2016, 09:37:01 am
I don't know why everyone is giving Lorenzo a hard time.

He kakked off, yes, and rode like a pussy.

Which seems to have been the correct strategy, seeing that he actually scored points.

Would you rather go balls out and crash, and receive your pat on the back?

Or take it easy, and collect a couple of points in the process?
That is something I would do........but I'm very far from a racer. These guys can do what they do because of the way they think. Rossi was obviously way faster then Lorenzo but then lost it.....which I think isn't very hard to do at the level these guys ride. He is'nt 9 times world champ for settling for 10th or 12th.

Yes I'm a Rossi fan... :lol8:

If you slow down with the express purpose of scoring points and save the championship, it is understandable.  If you go slow because you "do not feel safe" (JL's words) it is a different story altogether.  In the first race which was stopped he ran 19th!

EDIT:

Lorenzo is a brilliant rider.  There is no doubt, but like all other brilliant riders he does also have weak points.  His is that he cannot perform at 100% in a 85% scenario.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on June 28, 2016, 09:45:56 am
He got a lucky break, for sure. But everybody was subject to the same conditions and circumstances.

And points are points.

Imagine if he stopped in the first race, as he was contemplating.

Laughing stock for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on June 28, 2016, 09:56:08 am
I agree, taking it easy was the correct clever play. But that should mean top 10 for JL, not 19th and dead last....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on June 28, 2016, 10:05:39 am
I agree, taking it easy was the correct clever play. But that should mean top 10 for JL, not 19th and dead last....

JL himself does not say he did a correct or clever play.  He admits he got the 10th because others crashed and that he was not competitive, even in race 2.

Quote from: JL99
“I gained because the others crashed, not because I was overtaking. But I was not competitive. It was very difficult to be competitive in the first race because I was probably slower than ever, especially when all the big water came,” he said.

That being said, if you lead the championship then a slower, safer ride is not a bad idea.  If you are 2nd, 3rd or 4th, the opposite is often true.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on July 14, 2016, 03:17:20 pm
Good to see Johann Zarco getting a chance in MotoGP after all these years.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on July 14, 2016, 05:16:01 pm
Good to see Johann Zarco getting a chance in MotoGP after all these years.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html)

The move was on the cards for some time.  Now he needs to bugger off so that our Brad can take his spot in Moto2.   :3some:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on July 15, 2016, 09:48:09 am
Free practice 1 Moto3:

1.   Romano Fenati   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   28.196s   
2.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   28.607s   
3.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   28.634s   
4.   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   1m   28.635s   
5.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   28.948s   
6.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   28.984s   
7.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.010s   
8.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   1m   29.038s   
9.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   29.110s   
10.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   29.173s   
11.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   29.246s   
12.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.250s   
13.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   1m   29.252s   
14.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   29.346s   
15.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   29.359s   
16.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   29.460s   
17.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   29.478s   
18.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   29.494s   
19.   Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   29.599s   
20.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.726s   
21.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   29.729s   
22.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.969s   
23.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   30.089s   
24.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   30.099s   
25.   Alexis Masbou   FRA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   30.147s   
26.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   30.347s   
27.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   1m   30.465s   
28.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   30.510s   
29.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   30.671s   
30.   Danny Webb   GBR   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   31.019s   
31.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   31.276s   
32.   Maximillian Kappler   GER   KRM-RZT   (KTM)   1m   31.678s   
33.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   31.792s   
34.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   32.428s   
35.   Tim Georgi   GER   Freudenberg Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   32.494s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232107/1/moto3-germany-free-practice-1-results.html#1ziBMQxyXqlGQhWD.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232107/1/moto3-germany-free-practice-1-results.html#1ziBMQxyXqlGQhWD.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on July 15, 2016, 10:04:10 am
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on July 15, 2016, 10:18:55 am
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!

It means very little this early in the weekend though.  Watch how it changes during the next FP's, QP and WUP.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on July 15, 2016, 11:17:47 am
George Lorenzo had a crash in FP1 so one less Spaniard!

1.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   23.702s   [Lap 6/7]   293km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   24.116s   +0.414s   [6/7]   286km/h
3.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   24.157s   +0.455s   [5/7]   288km/h
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   24.279s   +0.577s   [5/6]   288km/h
5.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   24.352s   +0.650s   [5/6]   291km/h
6.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   24.487s   +0.785s   [7/8]   287km/h
7.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   24.592s   +0.890s   [5/6]   286km/h
8.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   25.141s   +1.439s   [6/8]   266km/h
9.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   25.224s   +1.522s   [4/6]   283km/h
10.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   25.282s   +1.580s   [5/7]   285km/h
11.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   25.313s   +1.611s   [5/6]   277km/h
12.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   25.353s   +1.651s   [5/5]   281km/h
13.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   25.384s   +1.682s   [5/7]   283km/h
14.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   25.388s   +1.686s   [6/10]   275km/h
15.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   25.418s   +1.716s   [5/6]   285km/h
16.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   26.369s   +2.667s   [3/4]   281km/h
17.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   26.623s   +2.921s   [5/7]   282km/h
18.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   26.822s   +3.120s   [5/7]   283km/h
19.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   1m   27.168s   +3.466s   [6/7]   280km/h
20.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   27.521s   +3.819s   [2/2]   278km/h
Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   No time [0/0]

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232111/1/motogp-germany-free-practice-1-results.html#PDwDZfbdJysjj2Kt.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232111/1/motogp-germany-free-practice-1-results.html#PDwDZfbdJysjj2Kt.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on July 15, 2016, 11:36:38 am
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!

It means very little this early in the weekend though.  Watch how it changes during the next FP's, QP and WUP.

Really? I never realised that this can still change, thought he won the race already

Fact is, at this stage it is a half a second difference or do you know the final results already?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 15, 2016, 11:57:38 am
:laughing7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on July 15, 2016, 01:28:01 pm
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!

It means very little this early in the weekend though.  Watch how it changes during the next FP's, QP and WUP.

Really? I never realised that this can still change, thought he won the race already

Fact is, at this stage it is a half a second difference or do you know the final results already?

Jissie dude.  I am just chatting with you about something that we are both passionate about?  Is it really necessary to kak yourself?  For fuck sakes, grow up!  

Ah!  I see now.  Western Cape.  Part of the Groepswoepsie. 





Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on July 15, 2016, 02:11:09 pm
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!

It means very little this early in the weekend though.  Watch how it changes during the next FP's, QP and WUP.

Really? I never realised that this can still change, thought he won the race already

Fact is, at this stage it is a half a second difference or do you know the final results already?

Jissie dude.  I am just chatting with you about something that we are both passionate about?  Is it really necessary to kak yourself?  For fuck sakes, grow up!   

Ah!  I see now.  Western Cape.  Part of the Groepswoepsie. 







Dont really know what you mean.

Fact is, you pissed me off before and thats why I am probably over sensitive with evertyhing coming from "The Bear"

Your need to respond to every post is noted and I will refrain to respond in future

Enjoy
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 15, 2016, 02:13:30 pm
Dis maar net daai beterweterige houding wat mense oor die algemeen afpis

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on July 15, 2016, 02:24:09 pm
 ???

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on July 15, 2016, 02:25:09 pm
All the times tell me is that we are in for another cracker race. As we've seen in the Moto3 class, you can be 1 second ahead at the start of the straight, and find yourself in 8th place at the end of it :o.

I am just running out of ways to ask the vrou nicely is she has anything to say before the races start on a Sunday.




Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on July 15, 2016, 02:54:59 pm
Fenati quicker by half a second, that is huge for Moto3!

It means very little this early in the weekend though.  Watch how it changes during the next FP's, QP and WUP.

Really? I never realised that this can still change, thought he won the race already

Fact is, at this stage it is a half a second difference or do you know the final results already?

Jissie dude.  I am just chatting with you about something that we are both passionate about?  Is it really necessary to kak yourself?  For fuck sakes, grow up!   

Ah!  I see now.  Western Cape.  Part of the Groepswoepsie. 







Dont really know what you mean.

Fact is, you pissed me off before and thats why I am probably over sensitive with evertyhing coming from "The Bear"

Your need to respond to every post is noted and I will refrain to respond in future

Enjoy
C'mon guys. Leave this shit alone now.
Lets not stuff up a good thread.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on July 15, 2016, 02:58:25 pm
FP2 Moto3:

1.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   27.496s   
2.   Romano Fenati   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   27.589s   
3.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   27.944s   
4.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   28.176s   
5.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   28.250s   
6.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   28.341s   
7.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   28.391s   
8.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   28.398s   
9.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   1m   28.419s   
10.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   28.479s   
11.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   1m   28.501s   
12.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   28.521s   
13.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   28.601s   
14.   Alexis Masbou   FRA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   28.629s   
15.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   28.639s   
16.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   1m   28.726s   
17.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   28.840s   
18.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   28.965s   
19.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   29.004s   
20.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.012s   
21.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   1m   29.069s   
22.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   29.094s   
23.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   29.346s   
24.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   29.465s   
25.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   29.576s   
26.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   29.677s   
27.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   29.704s   
28.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   29.752s   
29.   Danny Webb   GBR   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   29.954s   
30.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   30.391s   
31.   Maximillian Kappler   GER   KRM-RZT   (KTM)   1m   30.671s   
32.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   30.750s   
33.   Tim Georgi   GER   Freudenberg Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   31.048s   
Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   No Time   
Jorge Martin   SPA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   No Time   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232115/1/moto3-germany-free-practice-2-results.html#pQprazbu42JHUoGM.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232115/1/moto3-germany-free-practice-2-results.html#pQprazbu42JHUoGM.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on July 15, 2016, 04:35:11 pm
All the times tell me is that we are in for another cracker race. As we've seen in the Moto3 class, you can be 1 second ahead at the start of the straight, and find yourself in 8th place at the end of it :o.

I am just running out of ways to ask the vrou nicely is she has anything to say before the races start on a Sunday.






This is why I find it surprising that one rider is better than another. It always looks like pot-luck to me in moto3, as if they only really need to race 1 lap.

Must be the most exciting race to actually be racing in, though - I'd love it  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 15, 2016, 04:53:04 pm
Agreed, and it is sad that the small class doesn't get as much "airtime" as the bigger classes.

Those guys have nerves of steel!!!! and even bigger balls!!!

In fact, after watching the Moto3, the bigger classes are often a bore-fest of note.

Anyways, looking forward to Sunday.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on July 16, 2016, 06:58:13 am
???



Let me explain:
When 1 person has a problem with you,  it might me that person,
When everyone has a problem with you,  it might be you.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on July 16, 2016, 07:50:01 am
Agreed, and it is sad that the small class doesn't get as much "airtime" as the bigger classes.

Those guys have nerves of steel!!!! and even bigger balls!!!

In fact, after watching the Moto3, the bigger classes are often a bore-fest of note.

Anyways, looking forward to Sunday.



agreed: Moto3 should the main race of the day  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 16, 2016, 02:28:41 pm
???



Let me explain:
When 1 person has a problem with you,  it might be that person,
When everyone has a problem with you,  it might be you.

Exactly
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 16, 2016, 02:30:00 pm
Anyways, qualifying is on now.

Snafu, do you know how that works?

:oscar:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 17, 2016, 08:11:25 pm
Not fond of the wet races, but a master stroke by Marquez today!

And so happy for Crutchlow! When he stays on he is pretty rapid, lol!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 17, 2016, 08:50:36 pm
I am so proud of Yamaha's brilliant surprise tactics. :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 18, 2016, 06:57:01 am
Hehehe...

I think it had more to  do with the giant ego of their golden goose.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on July 18, 2016, 09:08:57 am
I was flipping out at the TV watching him refuse to come in. If he'd come in 3-4 laps earlier he might have won it.

However, how was he to know that MM and others were lapping 5 seconds quicker. All he knew was that if he stayed with his bunch he could match or beat them.

The commentator made a valid observation that "pit" just lets the rider know that they are ready and the rider then has the choice to make. His board should have read, "FFS! Pit NOW!"
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on July 18, 2016, 09:31:02 am
I was also thinking there must be something they could put on the board to indicate he is loosing 5 seconds a lap. One would think they would have had this sort of discussion at some stage as well.

When I watched Marquez leave the pits on wet slicks I thought he was making a silly decision, but he obviously has much bigger balls than I thought he had  ;D.

Happy for Crutchlow and sorry for Redding.

And Binder rode a very mature race. Once again I was astounded at how those youngsters throw everything at the race. 

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on July 18, 2016, 09:56:29 am
That Pawi laaitie has a few loose screws in his pip, LOL!!!

He was something like 20s clear and still sliding over kerbs & painted lines and riding like he was possessed!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on July 18, 2016, 11:08:29 am
That Pawi laaitie has a few loose screws in his pip, LOL!!!

He was something like 20s clear and still sliding over kerbs & painted lines and riding like he was possessed!!!

Hi pitcrew kept waving for him to slow down but he just kept going like a bat out of hell, loved it!! Apparently a lot of people bet on him winning the race after his performance in Argentina in the wet!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 18, 2016, 11:47:39 am
Good to see Johann Zarco getting a chance in MotoGP after all these years.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232091/1/zarcos-motogp-move-to-be-confirmed-this-weekend.html)

yes yes.. I love Zarco, that man is fearless, one who will get my support for sure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 18, 2016, 11:55:44 am
I dunno why people are saying that Rossi refused to come in, its the same as saying the whole front bunch refused to come in. .. it doesn't work like that

Great race though.. nice to see some strategy, and great overtaking from Dov, I think he had a great race.

Cal made my day with his place, I really like that guy, if only he wouldn't crash so much

Please can someone tell me when Pedrosa is going to bugger off. everyone knows im a Repsol Honda fan / nut but even im getting tired of his piss poor performances.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on July 18, 2016, 02:00:09 pm
Bear...Thanks for your comments/insights/information...it is obvious that you know a lot more (than the rest of us) about MotoGP and SBK in general, their rules and lots of detailed info about riders.

 I, for one, appreciate your input/comments/participation on these threads. It serves as a great source of info in clearing up confusing/unknown issues.


Doet zoo voort vriend...and to hell with the sensitive ones!....just kap them an ignore...   ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on July 18, 2016, 02:22:22 pm
Bear...Thanks for your comments/insights/information...it is obvious that you know a lot more (than the rest of us) about MotoGP and SBK in general, their rules and lots of detailed info about riders.

 I, for one, appreciate your input/comments/participation on these threads. It serves as a great source of info in clearing up confusing/unknown issues.


Doet zoo voort vriend...and to hell with the sensitive ones!....just kap them an ignore...   ;)

Agreed

Always look forward to reading your informed input  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: krister on July 18, 2016, 02:30:19 pm
I don't normally follow MotoGP but yesterday I stopped for a quick pint at a bar and caught the end... My, what a finish!   :thumleft: :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on July 18, 2016, 03:13:15 pm
I am so proud of Yamaha's brilliant surprise tactics. :biggrin:

 :imaposer: 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on July 19, 2016, 10:18:23 am
I caught a program called Paddock Pass the other day, it seems to air just before the races and is repeated a couple of times.

It is full of interesting interviews and inserts which include some behind the scenes stuff, for instance in the workshop talking about brakes, suspension etc.

They had thing on bike set up with Pramac Ducati recently and the mechanic was explaining all the changes they can make on the bike. He said at one point they are throwing caution to the wind today and were going to try a whole millimeter change on the one setting.

Anyway, its is worth looking out for.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 12, 2016, 11:14:30 am
Moto3 free practice 1:
1.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   37.902s   
2.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   38.486s   
3.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   38.630s   
4.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   38.927s   
5.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   39.063s   
6.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   39.104s   
7.   Romano Fenati   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   39.131s   
8.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   39.132s   
9.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   39.244s   
10.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   1m   39.250s   
11.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   1m   39.256s   
12.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   39.256s   
13.   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   1m   39.333s   
14.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   39.439s   
15.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   39.544s   
16.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   39.580s   
17.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   39.622s   
18.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   39.688s   
19.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   39.770s   
20.   Albert Arenas   SPA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   39.915s   
21.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   39.942s   
22.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   1m   40.109s   
23.   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mahindra Racing   (Mahindra)   1m   40.245s   
24.   Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   40.271s   
25.   Stefano Manzi   ITA   Mahindra Racing   (Mahindra)   1m   40.315s   
26.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   40.480s   
27.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   40.543s   
28.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   40.678s   
29.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   40.950s   
30.   Marcos Ramirez   SPA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   41.199s   
31.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   41.287s   
32.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   41.774s   
33.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   1m   41.824s   
34.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   41.929s   
35.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   41.941s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232728/1/moto3-austria-free-practice-1-results.html#OJMrvWXQSOe0105S.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232728/1/moto3-austria-free-practice-1-results.html#OJMrvWXQSOe0105S.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 12, 2016, 11:15:58 am
Moto GP free practice 1:
 1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   25.866s   [Lap 16/19]   306km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   25.945s   +0.079s   [15/16]   311km/h
3.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   26.077s   +0.211s   [20/22]   306km/h
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   26.232s   +0.366s   [22/22]   302km/h
5.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   26.306s   +0.440s   [15/24]   303km/h
6.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   26.337s   +0.471s   [15/25]   306km/h
7.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   26.375s   +0.509s   [20/21]   307km/h
8.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   26.438s   +0.572s   [7/21]   304km/h
9.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   26.493s   +0.627s   [6/25]   301km/h
10.   Michele Pirro   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   26.620s   +0.754s   [20/20]   308km/h
11.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   26.734s   +0.868s   [8/24]   304km/h
12.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   26.860s   +0.994s   [19/21]   304km/h
13.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   26.880s   +1.014s   [12/25]   306km/h
14.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   26.995s   +1.129s   [10/23]   304km/h
15.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   27.067s   +1.201s   [11/17]   300km/h
16.   Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   27.997s   +2.131s   [7/23]   296km/h
17.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   28.229s   +2.363s   [6/21]   301km/h
18.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   28.492s   +2.626s   [20/22]   306km/h
19.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   1m   28.731s   +2.865s   [8/25]   302km/h
20.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   28.761s   +2.895s   [7/18]   301km/h
21.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   30.206s   +4.340s   [5/7]   302km/h
22.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   31.293s   +5.427s   [5/9]   298km/h
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232731/1/motogp-austria-free-practice-1-results.html#hTb9CFShbkmBowji.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232731/1/motogp-austria-free-practice-1-results.html#hTb9CFShbkmBowji.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Frankrzzgp on August 14, 2016, 03:35:45 pm
Dankie Super dport, nou mis ek die laaste gedeelte van die race!!! :dousing:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on August 15, 2016, 08:47:54 am
Dankie Super dport, nou mis ek die laaste gedeelte van die race!!! :dousing:

My ook demoer in gehad... :xxbah:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on August 15, 2016, 09:20:46 am
Well at least caught the full race rebroadcast at 19:15.

Bit of a boring race though.

At least Moto 3 was more exciting. Well done Brad.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on August 15, 2016, 11:18:32 am
Brad now has a 67 point lead, it really should be his this year. Next year confirmed as KTM Moto2 rider.

After the Moto2 race they rode the KTM LC16 MotoGP bikes around the course. They look really good.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on August 15, 2016, 11:21:51 am
Why did Rossi or Jorge not try and  push from at least 5 laps before the end or is the Ducati's too fast for them?
I was hoping for a final push from Rossi at least. He must have had ample tyre left.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on August 15, 2016, 11:31:01 am
Those Dukes were way too fast on race pace. I'm sure the Yamahas did what they could, but the Dukes had too much straight line oomph, especially on the fastest track on the calendar.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 19, 2016, 09:42:05 am
Moto 3 free practice 1:

1
33
E. BASTIANINI
2:08.515
2
88
J. MARTIN
+0.176
3
41
B. BINDER
+0.197
4
84
J. KORNFEIL
+0.435
5
9
J. NAVARRO
+0.497
6
8
N. BULEGA
+0.537
7
21
F. BAGNAIA
+0.845
8
16
A. MIGNO
+0.854
9
4
F. DI GIANNANTONIO
+0.920
10
23
N. ANTONELLI
+1.102
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 19, 2016, 11:14:18 am
Moto GP free practice 1:

1.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   56.189s   [Lap 14/15]   311km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   56.454s   +0.265s   [10/17]   306km/h
3.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   56.673s   +0.484s   [11/15]   308km/h
4.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   56.964s   +0.775s   [16/16]   308km/h
5.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   57.037s   +0.848s   [17/17]   312km/h
6.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   57.085s   +0.896s   [10/16]   306km/h
7.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   57.176s   +0.987s   [12/18]   307km/h
8.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   57.504s   +1.315s   [17/18]   306km/h
9.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   57.524s   +1.335s   [12/17]   309km/h
10.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   57.538s   +1.349s   [16/16]   304km/h
11.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   57.599s   +1.410s   [17/17]   306km/h
12.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   57.621s   +1.432s   [5/16]   307km/h
13.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   58.086s   +1.897s   [16/16]   305km/h
14.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   58.321s   +2.132s   [18/18]   306km/h
15.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   58.481s   +2.292s   [16/17]   304km/h
16.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   58.660s   +2.471s   [18/18]   305km/h
17.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   58.685s   +2.496s   [18/18]   300km/h
18.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   1m   58.834s   +2.645s   [19/21]   302km/h
19.   Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   59.116s   +2.927s   [9/15]   300km/h
20.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   59.352s   +3.163s   [6/16]   307km/h
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232878/1/motogp-brno-free-practice-1-results.html#H8e6FpzM0GJOIkei.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232878/1/motogp-brno-free-practice-1-results.html#H8e6FpzM0GJOIkei.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on August 21, 2016, 06:46:39 pm
That Cal oke says all the other riders are wimps cause they did not pick hard tyres? ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on August 21, 2016, 07:25:47 pm
Lorenzo made a mad blunder.

The lap before he came in he was one of the fastest on the track.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 21, 2016, 10:39:59 pm
I am quite happy for Cruthlow.

I am also quite happy for Oupa Valentein.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on August 21, 2016, 10:41:39 pm
I am also quite happy for Oupa Valentein

to gain from 11th to second take some doing I thought.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on August 21, 2016, 10:43:08 pm
That Cal oke says all the other riders are wimps cause they did not pick hard tyres? ???


I would wait for a few more victories under my belt before I started shooting my mouth off..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on August 22, 2016, 07:39:24 am
I owe Lorenzo an apology.

He came in because his front had started to throw rubber...

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html (http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Suzukli DL on August 22, 2016, 07:51:59 am
I owe Lorenzo an apology.

He came in because his front had started to throw rubber...

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html (http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html)

Wonder how Iannone managed 8th ?

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on August 22, 2016, 08:50:04 am
I owe Lorenzo an apology.

He came in because his front had started to throw rubber...

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html (http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232969/1/lorenzo-the-front-tyre-tore-up.html)

Wonder how Iannone managed 8th ?


Iannone's tires came apart with 2 laps to go. Lorenzo's with 7. Dovisiozo had his go with 13.

I am guessing, that if either Lorenzo or Dovi only had 2 laps to go and they where at the sharp end, they would have also tried to ride it out.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ButtSlider on August 22, 2016, 09:00:30 am
What a GP.

Well done to Cal. Agree that it was a bit low to shout his mouth off though.

Good stuff from Rossi and Mark.

Not a good year for Lorenzo. Thank goodness.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: krister on August 22, 2016, 01:38:00 pm
What a GP.

Well done to Cal. Agree that it was a bit low to shout his mouth off though.

Good stuff from Rossi and Mark.

Not a good year for Lorenzo. Thank goodness.



+1!  :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 22, 2016, 01:41:19 pm
I am also quite happy for Oupa Valentein

to gain from 11th to second take some doing I thought.

More than us Honda fans can say for the paperweight Pedrosa.. fok im getting irritated with his performance, I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on August 22, 2016, 02:04:22 pm
I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal

No way that they will have a non Spaniard on a Repsol bike....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on August 22, 2016, 02:15:47 pm
What a GP.

Well done to Cal. Agree that it was a bit low to shout his mouth off though.

Good stuff from Rossi and Mark.

Not a good year for Lorenzo. Thank goodness.



+1!  :ricky:


+1 He's an arrogant twat.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 23, 2016, 12:41:38 pm
I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal

No way that they will have a non Spaniard on a Repsol bike....

They have to do something.. Pedrosa cant keep getting the results he is.. there must be new riders knocking on the factory Honda door..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 23, 2016, 04:47:39 pm
I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal

No way that they will have a non Spaniard on a Repsol bike....

They have to do something.. Pedrosa cant keep getting the results he is.. there must be new riders knocking on the factory Honda door..
He just re-signed for 2 years, don't see them kicking him out.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on August 23, 2016, 04:49:36 pm
I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal

No way that they will have a non Spaniard on a Repsol bike....

They have to do something.. Pedrosa cant keep getting the results he is.. there must be new riders knocking on the factory Honda door..
He just re-signed for 2 years, don't see them kicking him out.

Unless he assaults a team mate or some such.... :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 23, 2016, 04:50:56 pm
I know MM has a dislocated shoulder and so he is a bit sore.. fair point but Pedrosa.. jussus I wish he would swap with Cal

No way that they will have a non Spaniard on a Repsol bike....

They have to do something.. Pedrosa cant keep getting the results he is.. there must be new riders knocking on the factory Honda door..
He just re-signed for 2 years, don't see them kicking him out.

Unless he assaults a team mate or some such.... :lol8:
Only Italians do that, Spaniards just sulk ..... OH wait, that's their normal stupid faces.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on August 24, 2016, 03:43:49 pm
KTM's moto2 project for Brad Binder next year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on August 24, 2016, 04:45:35 pm
Jô!!!

Styfie...  :drif:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 25, 2016, 01:05:14 pm
Seems Bradley Smith has broken his femur during during practice for this weekend's Oschersleben World Endurance event.

That probably means he is out for much of the rest of the year.

Edit : Not broken, needs stitches and further assessment, but femur intact.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on August 25, 2016, 01:07:08 pm
Eugene Laverty leaving MotoGP and returning to WSBK with Aprilia machinery....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: BB King on August 30, 2016, 07:20:24 pm
Just a question... Although Lorenzo is a party word of note, the man can ride like a SOB.
Is anyone else thinking sabotage from his side trying to cost Yamaha manufacturer points??
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on August 31, 2016, 08:11:24 am
Just a question... Although Lorenzo is a party word of note, the man can ride like a SOB.
Is anyone else thinking sabotage from his side trying to cost Yamaha manufacturer points??

I would not go as far a that, but it seems clear that he is not willing to take risks for a team where he is most definitely the No2 rider and a team which he is leaving anyway.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on August 31, 2016, 02:35:19 pm
Just a question... Although Lorenzo is a party word of note, the man can ride like a SOB.
Is anyone else thinking sabotage from his side trying to cost Yamaha manufacturer points??

I think Lozenzo did his Ducati deal too early in the year. Once it was known that he is out, Yamaha stopped developing the bike around him. Now you see Rossi surging forward and Jorge hit the reverse button.

As for Pedrosa ... the little master is just too small for the big bikes. Especially with this new Michelin era, looks like he just cannot get those tyres to build up any heat. Maybe he can also do with a move to another team, can't stay with Honda all his life. Would have been an ideal candidate to go and develop the Suzuki or the KTM project
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 01, 2016, 12:53:00 pm
In my opinion, Pedrosa is perfect for the Yamaha.

He is a very smooth rider who likes high corner speed.

A brutish bike doesn't suit him at all.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on September 01, 2016, 01:54:45 pm
In my opinion, Pedrosa is perfect for the Yamaha.

He is a very smooth rider who likes high corner speed.

A brutish bike doesn't suit him at all.

I think he should go back to Moto2, he will be hard to beat if he is on a competitive bike.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Regis Laconi on September 01, 2016, 03:46:10 pm
I've never been a big Pedrosa fan.  But he looks like a nice guy and he's obviously a very good rider.  It's a pity he's not up front where he and his bike belongs.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 01, 2016, 05:43:18 pm
In my opinion, Pedrosa is perfect for the Yamaha.

He is a very smooth rider who likes high corner speed.

A brutish bike doesn't suit him at all.

I agree with your comment.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 02, 2016, 12:54:06 pm
British Moto GP free pratice 1:

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   02.483s   [Lap 13/15]   317km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   02.765s   +0.282s   [13/14]   317km/h
3.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   03.563s   +1.080s   [10/13]   315km/h
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   03.591s   +1.108s   [16/16]   316km/h
5.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   2m   03.637s   +1.154s   [10/13]   321km/h
6.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   03.714s   +1.231s   [15/17]   317km/h
7.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   2m   04.027s   +1.544s   [9/17]   322km/h
8.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   04.037s   +1.554s   [16/16]   316km/h
9.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   04.138s   +1.655s   [15/15]   315km/h
10.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   04.170s   +1.687s   [14/16]   314km/h
11.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   2m   04.247s   +1.764s   [15/16]   314km/h
12.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   04.443s   +1.960s   [14/15]   312km/h
13.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   04.473s   +1.990s   [14/14]   316km/h
14.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   04.491s   +2.008s   [16/16]   315km/h
15.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   04.905s   +2.422s   [15/15]   313km/h
16.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   05.134s   +2.651s   [6/16]   313km/h
17.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   05.196s   +2.713s   [10/11]   313km/h
18.   Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   05.540s   +3.057s   [14/15]   311km/h
19.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   2m   05.662s   +3.179s   [15/16]   314km/h
20.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   2m   06.016s   +3.533s   [17/17]   307km/h
21.   Alex Lowes   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   06.225s   +3.742s   [12/13]   310km/h
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233235/1/motogp-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#8Evv3gCxRtFGmvMu.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233235/1/motogp-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#8Evv3gCxRtFGmvMu.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 02, 2016, 12:55:05 pm
Moto3 free practise 1:

1.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   2m   15.748s   
2.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   2m   16.062s   
3.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   2m   16.114s   
4.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   2m   16.924s   
5.   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   2m   17.031s   
6.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   17.043s   
7.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   2m   17.264s   
8.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   17.568s   
9.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   2m   17.615s   
10.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   2m   17.835s   
11.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   2m   17.885s   
12.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   2m   17.895s   
13.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   2m   18.021s   
14.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   2m   18.310s   
15.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   2m   18.326s   
16.   Albert Arenas   SPA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   2m   18.393s   
17.   Marcos Ramirez   SPA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   2m   18.403s   
18.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   2m   18.518s   
19.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   2m   18.658s   
20.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   2m   18.794s   
21.   Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   2m   19.078s   
22.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   2m   19.166s   
23.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   2m   19.206s   
24.   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Mahindra Racing   (Mahindra)   2m   19.226s   
25.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   19.354s   
26.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   2m   19.364s   
27.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   2m   19.365s   
28.   Stefano Manzi   ITA   Mahindra Racing   (Mahindra)   2m   19.598s   
29.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   2m   20.083s   
30.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   2m   20.254s   
31.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   2m   21.093s   
32.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   2m   21.147s   
33.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   2m   21.534s   
34.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   2m   21.541s   
35.   Lorenzo Dalla Porta   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   2m   21.548s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233231/1/moto3-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#zvlwywQYbmjwq6EC.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233231/1/moto3-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#zvlwywQYbmjwq6EC.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 02, 2016, 01:13:27 pm
Quote
It means very little this early in the weekend though. 

 ::)

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 02, 2016, 01:16:51 pm
Moto2 free practice 1:

1.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Federal Oil Gresini Moto2   (Kalex)   2m   9.346s   
2.   Thomas Luthi   SWI   Garage Plus Interwetten   (Kalex)   2m   9.568s   
3.   Alex Marquez   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   (Kalex)   2m   9.598s   
4.   Jonas Folger   GER   Dynavolt Intact GP   (Kalex)   2m   9.700s   
5.   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia   (Kalex)   2m   9.767s   
6.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Ajo Motorsport   (Kalex)   2m   10.131s   
7.   Sandro Cortese   GER   Dynavolt Intact GP   (Kalex)   2m   10.410s   
8.   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Petronas Raceline Malaysia   (Kalex)   2m   10.598s   
9.   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Leopard Racing   (Kalex)   2m   10.665s   
10.   Julian Simon   SPA   QMMF Racing Team   (Speed Up)   2m   10.794s   
11.   Axel Pons   SPA   AGR Team   (Kalex)   2m   10.808s   
12.   Marcel Schrotter   GER   AGR Team   (Kalex)   2m   10.898s   
13.   Simone Corsi   ITA   Speed Up Racing   (Speed Up)   2m   11.039s   
14.   Xavi Vierge   SPA   Tech 3 Racing   (Tech 3)   2m   11.084s   
15.   Xavier Simeon   BEL   QMMF Racing Team   (Speed Up)   2m   11.271s   
16.   Lorenzo Baldassarri   ITA   Forward Team   (Kalex)   2m   11.274s   
17.   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS   (Kalex)   2m   11.329s   
18.   Danny Kent   GBR   Leopard Racing   (Kalex)   2m   11.437s   
19.   Isaac Viñales   SPA   Tech 3 Racing   (Tech 3)   2m   11.471s   
20.   Luca Marini   ITA   Forward Team   (Kalex)   2m   11.501s   
21.   Remy Gardner   AUS   Tasca Racing Scuderia Moto2   (Kalex)   2m   11.589s   
22.   Mattia Pasini   ITA   Italtrans Racing Team   (Kalex)   2m   11.756s   
23.   Jesko Raffin   SWI   Sports-Millions-EMWE-SAG   (Kalex)   2m   11.917s   
24.   Alex Rins   SPA   Paginas Amarillas HP 40   (Kalex)   2m   12.821s   
25.   Robin Mulhauser   SWI   CarXpert Interwetten   (Kalex)   2m   13.268s   
26.   Ratthapark Wilairot   THA   IDEMITSU Honda Team Asia   (Kalex)   2m   14.019s   
27.   Iker Lecuona   SPA   CarXpert Interwetten   (Kalex)   2m   16.066s   
28.   Edgar Pons   SPA   Paginas Amarillas HP 40   (Kalex)   2m   16.197s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233240/1/moto2-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#mBFi2JUqB1b3lrII.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233240/1/moto2-silverstone-free-practice-1-results.html#mBFi2JUqB1b3lrII.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on September 02, 2016, 02:38:46 pm
Damn, im gonna miss this one.. please gooi updates
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on September 02, 2016, 03:46:35 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 02, 2016, 03:48:08 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Rain
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 02, 2016, 03:50:28 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Rain
Surprise!! Not really.

We should get MotoGP to come here, maybe it will start raining because it always rains where they race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on September 02, 2016, 03:53:39 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Rain
Surprise!! Not really.

We should get MotoGP to come here, maybe it will start raining because it always rains where they race.

That would be a double bonus LOL
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 02, 2016, 04:05:24 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Rain
Surprise!! Not really.

We should get MotoGP to come here, maybe it will start raining because it always rains where they race.
Would it be too much to ask that it falls in the mielie planting season? ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 02, 2016, 04:18:49 pm
Does anyone know what the weather prediction for Sunday is?
Rain
Surprise!! Not really.

We should get MotoGP to come here, maybe it will start raining because it always rains where they race.
Would it be too much to ask that it falls in the mielie planting season? ;)

Lorenzo will plough the fields for free even

:evil6:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 02, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on September 02, 2016, 05:17:25 pm
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?

Kyalami.
Recently refreshed,  and close to my house.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 02, 2016, 05:22:04 pm
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?

Kyalami.
Recently refreshed,  and close to my house.
:laughing4:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 03, 2016, 08:25:08 pm
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?

Kyalami.
Recently refreshed,  and close to my house.

Any spare beds then? :ricky:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on September 04, 2016, 10:49:49 am
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?

Kyalami.
Recently refreshed,  and close to my house.

Any spare beds then? :ricky:

It would be my pleasure to host you,  oom danie
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 04, 2016, 10:50:50 am
What time is the races on tv?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on September 04, 2016, 11:01:59 am
What time is the races on tv?

I also had a mild panic attack a few minutes ago, then I saw Moto3 is at 13h00

UK are 2 hours behind us as from 1 september
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: whitedelight on September 04, 2016, 11:31:16 am
Jirre time going bye slowly today. To those who missed qualifying yesterday,do yourself a favour and watch it before Moto3,well worth it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 04, 2016, 11:40:25 am
Jirre time going bye slowly today. To those who missed qualifying yesterday,do yourself a favour and watch it before Moto3,well worth it.
It sure was wet and slippery, I do not know how they do it?!!!!!!! :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: KJ on September 04, 2016, 02:23:35 pm
That feeling when you hear our anthem at the Motogp :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on September 04, 2016, 05:18:37 pm
That Suzuki is on steroids  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 04, 2016, 05:58:27 pm
A totally new brand of motorcycle won at Silverstone today, its called a Suzuki. Anyone heard of it? >:D












About bloody time I'd say. :deal: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: landieman on September 04, 2016, 06:02:57 pm
absolutely fantastic racing all around  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on September 04, 2016, 06:37:21 pm
That feeling when you hear our anthem at the Motogp :biggrin:
Epic! Epic race too... right up to the line as well! :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2016, 06:44:12 pm
If we get Moto GP which would be the better track?
Kyalami or Phakisa?

Kyalami.
Recently refreshed,  and close to my house.

Any spare beds then? :ricky:

It would be my pleasure to host you,  oom danie

Thank you. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2016, 06:45:55 pm
A totally new brand of motorcycle won at Silverstone today, its called a Suzuki. Anyone heard of it? >:D












About bloody time I'd say. :deal: :thumleft:

A great name back on top.
And next year this pilot is on a Yamaha. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobC on September 04, 2016, 07:12:36 pm
A totally new brand of motorcycle won at Silverstone today, its called a Suzuki. Anyone heard of it? >:D












About bloody time I'd say. :deal: :thumleft:
In Moto3 the Mahindra is a new face to me... and Peugeot? WTF? :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2016, 08:23:22 pm
I would not be surprised if Peugoet also run a KTM engine, I am quite sure the Mahindra does.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on September 04, 2016, 09:22:22 pm
I would not be surprised if Peugoet also run a KTM engine, I am quite sure the Mahindra does.

Mahindra entered Moto 3 in 2012 with a complete own bike and they build their own engine.  Peugeot is a badge engineered Mahindra, Part of the deal when Mahindra and Peugeot got "married" was to rebadge some Mahindras Peugeots.  Basically like the Moto 3 Husqvarna is a badge engineered KTM.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2016, 09:25:33 pm
So what engine is this Mahindra? I thought they only built scooters?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on September 04, 2016, 09:31:49 pm
So what engine is this Mahindra? I thought they only built scooters?

It is a Mahindra engine.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: KJ on September 05, 2016, 10:09:49 am
A totally new brand of motorcycle won at Silverstone today, its called a Suzuki. Anyone heard of it? >:D












About bloody time I'd say. :deal: :thumleft:
Ja I wonder what lekka petrol that Suz had in yesterday hey. ???
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 12:13:54 pm
Yesterday's racing was great. Nice to have a dry race for a change, makes a huge difference especially on the MotoGP and Moto2 races.

Loved seeing Rossi and Marques scrapping again. Also great to see that Marques is willing to go for it. He could have just hung back and limited points lost but he didn't. He went for it and sorted Rossi out then almost made it past Crutchlow, but he wasn't patient enough.

Of course Brad is the man again. Sorry for Navarro being taken out like that but great to know that Brad is basically assured of the championship.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 12:18:31 pm

Loved seeing Rossi and Marques scrapping again. Also great to see that Marques is willing to go for it. He could have just hung back and limited points lost but he didn't. He went for it and sorted Rossi out then almost made it past Crutchlow, but he wasn't patient enough.


I agree, it is great to see a championship leader willing to take on the competition, that goes for both MM and BB. But I can't help thinking that MM pushes it too far. He would not be riding on that limit if the run off areas were still gravel traps and the penalties for exceeding track limits were more severe. Overrunning corners that far twice in one race is not on in my opinion.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 05, 2016, 12:26:55 pm
Overrunning corners that far twice in one race is not on in my opinion.

he should be given a penalty for that. He is very clever in using that to his advantage. In that legue you do not overrun twice in one race.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 01:06:10 pm
Marques can do no right. If he hangs back and concentrates on the championship he is scared and if he goes for it he and gets it wrong he should be penalized. Maybe Lorenzo has it right, don't take any chances and don't mess with Rossi else you will be branded as wild and there will be calls for penalties to be brought in.

Maverick Viñales must make the most of this season. If he dares compete with Rossi next year he will feel the wrath of Rossi and his fans the way Marques does all the time.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 05, 2016, 01:42:25 pm
I thought that Zarco move was way worse than anyhting Marques did. All three races were some of the most entertaining I've watched in a while
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 05, 2016, 01:48:23 pm
I thought that Zarco move was way worse than anyhting Marques did. All three races were some of the most entertaining I've watched in a while
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+1 :thumleft:

The crash at the beginning of the race looked very spectacular. Luckily both OK. :thumleft:
Poor old Redding fell three times and kept on racing :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 01:50:59 pm
Marques can do no right. If he hangs back and concentrates on the championship he is scared and if he goes for it he and gets it wrong he should be penalized. Maybe Lorenzo has it right, don't take any chances and don't mess with Rossi else you will be branded as wild and there will be calls for penalties to be brought in.

Maverick Viñales must make the most of this season. If he dares compete with Rossi next year he will feel the wrath of Rossi and his fans the way Marques does all the time.

Exactly!!! Give that man a Bells!

Let's see how long it takes before Vinales joins the gang of evil Spanish conspirators....

 ::)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 05, 2016, 02:08:49 pm
But when Rossi rode aggresively he "kicked Marques off the track"  ::)

Still wide open for 2nd and 3rd places overall in the championship. It's going to be a cracker for the rest of the season
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 05, 2016, 02:24:15 pm
Marques can do no right. If he hangs back and concentrates on the championship he is scared and if he goes for it he and gets it wrong he should be penalized. Maybe Lorenzo has it right, don't take any chances and don't mess with Rossi else you will be branded as wild and there will be calls for penalties to be brought in.

Maverick Viñales must make the most of this season. If he dares compete with Rossi next year he will feel the wrath of Rossi and his fans the way Marques does all the time.
No he can't, he is and will always be another grumpy Spanish wanker.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 02:26:52 pm
I cant believe how that evil Cal Crutchlow "interfered with two riders who are actually fighting for the world championship!!!"

 ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 02:27:59 pm
Marques can do no right. If he hangs back and concentrates on the championship he is scared and if he goes for it he and gets it wrong he should be penalized. Maybe Lorenzo has it right, don't take any chances and don't mess with Rossi else you will be branded as wild and there will be calls for penalties to be brought in.

Maverick Viñales must make the most of this season. If he dares compete with Rossi next year he will feel the wrath of Rossi and his fans the way Marques does all the time.
No he can't, he is and will always be another grumpy Spanish wanker.

 :dummy
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 02:28:12 pm
Marques can do no right. If he hangs back and concentrates on the championship he is scared and if he goes for it he and gets it wrong he should be penalized. Maybe Lorenzo has it right, don't take any chances and don't mess with Rossi else you will be branded as wild and there will be calls for penalties to be brought in.

Maverick Viñales must make the most of this season. If he dares compete with Rossi next year he will feel the wrath of Rossi and his fans the way Marques does all the time.
No he can't, he is and will always be another grumpy Spanish wanker.

Talk about grumpy and you are not even Spanish
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 02:29:27 pm
I cant believe how that evil Cal Crutchlow "interfered with two riders who are actually fighting for the world championship!!!"

 ::) ::) ::)



Ha ha ha!
And yet MM took himself off track both times and almost took himself out against Miller's rear wheel on the first start.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on September 05, 2016, 02:30:56 pm
I cant believe how that evil Cal Crutchlow "interfered with two riders who are actually fighting for the world championship!!!"

 ::) ::) ::)



Excactly,......I don`t know why the peeps can`t leave poor old marques alone....He is an excellent racer!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on September 05, 2016, 02:32:04 pm
That feeling when you hear our anthem at the Motogp :biggrin:

.... goes away quickly when the minister of sport doesn't even know who Brad Binder is
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 02:42:44 pm
I cant believe how that evil Cal Crutchlow "interfered with two riders who are actually fighting for the world championship!!!"

 ::) ::) ::)



I am waiting for the Rossi conspiracy interview where Viñales won the race to help MM win the championship. Then Donovan will post pictures of MM and Viñales heads on gay models bodies and call Viñales MM's toy boy. Crutchlow will be dragged in as that qualifying lap in the rain must have been part of the conspiracy. Rossi can then deliberately run Viñales off the road because he is influencing a championship he has not part in and Rossi fans will insist he brought it on himself because he is young, Spanish, fast, and not Rossi.

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 02:48:40 pm
I cant believe how that evil Cal Crutchlow "interfered with two riders who are actually fighting for the world championship!!!"

 ::) ::) ::)



I am waiting for the Rossi conspiracy interview where Viñales won the race to help MM win the championship. Then Donovan will post pictures of MM and Viñales heads on gay models bodies and call Viñales MM's toy boy. Crutchlow will be dragged in as that qualifying lap in the rain must have been part of the conspiracy. Rossi can then deliberately run Viñales off the road because he is influencing a championship he has not part in and Rossi fans will insist he brought it on himself because he is young, Spanish, fast, and not Rossi.

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 02:53:42 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 03:00:05 pm
Don't forget that Lorenzo is also riding kak on purpose, to make sure that Marquez (an evil Spaniard) wins the title.

In turn, he is taking away points from Yamaha, just to make sure that Rossi can't even celebrate a manufacturer's title.

The plot sickens

Goddamn sneaky Spaniards!!!!

:bluduh:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: punisher on September 05, 2016, 03:14:58 pm
fantastic racing all round
lots of risks taken though , makes it exciting

pity that lil spanish wanker MM didnt fall off at the start after riding into redding tho  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 03:16:13 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 05, 2016, 03:17:23 pm
Don't forget that Lorenzo is also riding kak on purpose, to make sure that Marquez (an evil Spaniard) wins the title.

In turn, he is taking away points from Yamaha, just to make sure that Rossi can't even celebrate a manufacturer's title.

The plot sickens

Goddamn sneaky Spaniards!!!!

:bluduh:
Why do just not admit that you KNOW VR46 is a better rider and he keeps people watching motot GP, your continued hatred of the undisputed king of motorcycle racing is in itself an extreme case of praise. But being a fridge magnet yourself, you will side with the midget Spaniard and his Conquistador grumpy friend Lorenzo.
No matter what these quite superb riders do, you and your merry band of wankers will always see fit to criticize the undisputed king of racing.
Simple fact is he is struggling on the only MotoGP he has ever ridden and unlike the KING VR46 who won on a Honda and a Yamaha he does not know how to adapt his riding style, like Rossi did for 2016 VS 2015.


Haters will be haters ..... and Greyshond will continue to code in sequal



 :peepwall: :peepwall: :peepwall: :peepwall: :pot: :pot:  
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 03:26:06 pm
Haters will be haters .....

Indeed
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 03:27:09 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.



Gravel traps are safe deterrents for bikes. Paved run off areas are for the F1 cars.
My point has nothing to do with Rossi vs MM.
If a rider ran the risk of losing more than a single position when he runs off, such a rider would run off less.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 05, 2016, 03:29:37 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.



Gravel traps are safe deterrents for bikes. Paved run off areas are for the F1 cars.
My point has nothing to do with Rossi vs MM.
If a rider ran the risk of losing more than a single position when he runs off, such a rider would run off less.

Good point
It is a difficult one to call and police/enforce, for sure.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 05, 2016, 03:34:20 pm
The final kak move by little Marques was when he passed Crutchlow, and then headed straight into the overrun.
By any standard, a stupid move, and it could have taken CC out, in which case Rossi fans would look like little lambs compared to the Brits going after MM. :imaposer:

Rossi rode[again] like the 9 times world champ he is. Marques is brilliant but for that red fog problem.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 05, 2016, 03:40:40 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.



Gravel traps are safe deterrents for bikes. Paved run off areas are for the F1 cars.
My point has nothing to do with Rossi vs MM.
If a rider ran the risk of losing more than a single position when he runs off, such a rider would run off less.

I am sure Wayne Rainey will disagree.

The gravel traps were created to drag out-of-control cars to a stop. They worked sometimes, but often cars would just skip across them to the wall. Also, vintage race cars and racing motorcycles HATE gravel traps, because they can cause an off-course vehicle to roll or flip. Gravel traps also make a mess of the track if an off-course vehicle is able to regain the track, as they then scatter chunky gravel on the racing surface.

In terms of safety, high-grip asphalt is actually much safer in slowing down an out-of-control, damaged, etc. vehicle that goes off course. That's the main reason that paved runoff areas are replacing gravel traps.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 03:45:45 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.



Gravel traps are safe deterrents for bikes. Paved run off areas are for the F1 cars.
My point has nothing to do with Rossi vs MM.
If a rider ran the risk of losing more than a single position when he runs off, such a rider would run off less.

I am sure Wayne Rainey will disagree.

The gravel traps were created to drag out-of-control cars to a stop. They worked sometimes, but often cars would just skip across them to the wall. Also, vintage race cars and racing motorcycles HATE gravel traps, because they can cause an off-course vehicle to roll or flip. Gravel traps also make a mess of the track if an off-course vehicle is able to regain the track, as they then scatter chunky gravel on the racing surface.

In terms of safety, high-grip asphalt is actually much safer in slowing down an out-of-control, damaged, etc. vehicle that goes off course. That's the main reason that paved runoff areas are replacing gravel traps.

Ok asphalt is safer and the modern way anyway. Your points above are very valid. No problem.
Maybe my solution for keeping riders on track is not correct. Still, I would like it if riders ride more controlled and run off less.
It is very entertaining and phenomenally impressive seeing a rider spanking the crap out of a 250HP motorbike. But if he is going to run off every now and then, then you might as well watch dragbikes with much more HP and a lot of asphalt run off.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 05, 2016, 03:58:16 pm
MM's first short-cut yesterday should be penalized, as it is a way to cool your tyres just that fraction, and resume the race where you left off.

He is a cheat. :pot: :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on September 05, 2016, 03:59:31 pm

Fans will blame race direction for not giving MM a 2 race ban for running off track

Ag ok I will take the bait...

When I referred to penalties for going off track, I was not referring to official penalties from the Org but rather to the penalties associated with running into a gravel trap or a wall, as opposed to getting away with running off on big paved run off areas.

My point being that I believe MM would moderate his riding if he had more risk of losing time in a gravel trap if/when he runs off.

Also, I'm just using MM as an example as he is the most recent repeat "offender". This is something that needs to be looked at, much in the same way as the Org addressed the riding out side the white line.

But yes, for now the playing field is the same for all. Some choose to take more risks, that is how motorsport works.

Not sure I agree, race direction will instruct a rider to fall back as many positions as he may have gained or not lost due to running off.
I understand that Rossi fans would prefer Marques runs into a wall instead of just losing a few positions, but I am sure the powers that be would prefer that riders who do get it wrong can survive. Even if the rider is hated as much as Rossi has convinced his gullible fans to hate MM.



Gravel traps are safe deterrents for bikes. Paved run off areas are for the F1 cars.
My point has nothing to do with Rossi vs MM.
If a rider ran the risk of losing more than a single position when he runs off, such a rider would run off less.

I am sure Wayne Rainey will disagree.

The gravel traps were created to drag out-of-control cars to a stop. They worked sometimes, but often cars would just skip across them to the wall. Also, vintage race cars and racing motorcycles HATE gravel traps, because they can cause an off-course vehicle to roll or flip. Gravel traps also make a mess of the track if an off-course vehicle is able to regain the track, as they then scatter chunky gravel on the racing surface.

In terms of safety, high-grip asphalt is actually much safer in slowing down an out-of-control, damaged, etc. vehicle that goes off course. That's the main reason that paved runoff areas are replacing gravel traps.

Ok asphalt is safer and the modern way anyway. Your points above are very valid. No problem.
Maybe my solution for keeping riders on track is not correct. Still, I would like it if riders ride more controlled and run off less.
It is very entertaining and phenomenally impressive seeing a rider spanking the crap out of a 250HP motorbike. But if he is going to run off every now and then, then you might as well watch dragbikes with much more HP and a lot of asphalt run off.

I respectfully say that if you have ever raced on a circuit you would understand how easily this could happen. I raced regional superbikes and I can assure you there is a very fine line between going as quickly as you can and overcooking it.... I am still amazed that at the level these guys ride at that they can pass at all..If I had a rider who was a second off my pace the pass would have to be well thought as you do not just pass at will AND these guys are generally within tenths of each other. These dudes are Supermen of some note!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 04:06:05 pm
I completely agree these guys are all aliens.
For my viewing pleasure I would prefer if they finish with the "bin it or win it" riding in their Moto3 years.

Yes they get paid to ride on the limit, but yesterday it just felt like reckless riding with little regard for running off.

Anyway, just a philosophical chat about the sport.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on September 05, 2016, 04:11:46 pm
I completely agree these guys are all aliens.
For my viewing pleasure I would prefer if they finish with the "bin it or win it" riding in their Moto3 years.

Yes they get paid to ride on the limit, but yesterday it just felt like reckless riding with little regard for running off.

Anyway, just a philosophical chat about the sport.

Agreed Bud500, running off should cost you some time at least. Almost unfair that his shortcut went with no "penalty", simply rejoined in his old position and carried on his merry way... You win some and lose the rest..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 05, 2016, 04:12:44 pm
By the way, how cool is that 360 Gyrocam.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 05, 2016, 08:38:19 pm
I completely agree these guys are all aliens.
For my viewing pleasure I would prefer if they finish with the "bin it or win it" riding in their Moto3 years.

Yes they get paid to ride on the limit, but yesterday it just felt like reckless riding with little regard for running off.

Anyway, just a philosophical chat about the sport.

If this was the IOM Marc would have been dead twice. >:D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on September 05, 2016, 09:09:40 pm
I completely agree these guys are all aliens.
For my viewing pleasure I would prefer if they finish with the "bin it or win it" riding in their Moto3 years.

Yes they get paid to ride on the limit, but yesterday it just felt like reckless riding with little regard for running off.

Anyway, just a philosophical chat about the sport.

If this was the IOM Marc would have been dead twice. >:D

True that! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dries Bike on September 06, 2016, 08:23:47 am
In my opinion Rossi  is the Mohammed Ali and the Y Bolt of GP racing
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: tulips on September 06, 2016, 11:34:19 am
So What made the Suzuki that fast this weekend ?
Set up spot on ? Engine development ? or did they fluke it with all the parameters in the sweet spot ?    its not as if the opposition riders are kak and the teams are clueless  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 06, 2016, 11:45:33 am
I am very happy for Suzuki. They make very fast road bikes and I cannot understand why they do not perform on the track?

The saying goes" what wins on Sunday sells on Monday" :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DirtRebell on September 06, 2016, 12:50:43 pm
What a great race it was.
Good for VR, the rivalry between him and MM makes for a good show.

I'm also glad there are now some newcomers in the top ranks.
Cant wait to see how the ktms are going to do. Testing times so far are well on par, from what I've heard.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on September 06, 2016, 02:18:22 pm
So What made the Suzuki that fast this weekend ?
Set up spot on ? Engine development ? or did they fluke it with all the parameters in the sweet spot ?    its not as if the opposition riders are kak and the teams are clueless  :peepwall:

For some reason the Suzis work better in the cold, maybe something to do with the way they get the tires warmed up and keeping it at the right temperature??
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OomD on September 06, 2016, 02:31:46 pm
By the way, how cool is that 360 Gyrocam.  :thumleft:
Agree, it's great! They started using them on F1 cars too a while ago, but I see they don't often actually use that footage. Well, not for TV coverage anyway. I understand that at races one can view different camera angles, etc with a small TV-like device, dunno if the same is done with MotoGP.

But anyway, cool nonetheless.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 06, 2016, 04:05:17 pm
By the way, how cool is that 360 Gyrocam.  :thumleft:
Agree, it's great! They started using them on F1 cars too a while ago, but I see they don't often actually use that footage. Well, not for TV coverage anyway. I understand that at races one can view different camera angles, etc with a small TV-like device, dunno if the same is done with MotoGP.

But anyway, cool nonetheless.

Kamanya can elaborate, but if you subscribe to the MotoGP TV packages then you can choose which cameras you would like to view.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 09, 2016, 10:23:26 am
Moto3 free practice 1:

1.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   43.188s   
2.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   43.588s   
3.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   1m   43.773s   
4.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   43.801s   
5.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   43.881s   
6.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   43.944s   
7.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   43.957s   
8.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   44.033s   
9.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   44.042s   
10.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   44.229s   
11.   Jorge Martin   SPA   Gaviota Mahindra ASPAR   (Mahindra)   1m   44.307s   
12.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   1m   44.347s   
13.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Gaviota Mahindra ASPAR   (Mahindra)   1m   44.390s   
14.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   1m   44.489s   
15.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   1m   44.568s   
16.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   44.598s   
17.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   1m   44.634s   
18.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   1m   44.645s   
19.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   1m   44.700s   
20.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   44.741s   
21.   Albert Arenas   SPA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   44.781s   
22.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   1m   44.918s   
23.   Stefano Manzi   ITA   Mahindra Racing   (Mahindra)   1m   45.059s   
24.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   45.122s   
25.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   1m   45.212s   
26.   Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   45.261s   
27.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   1m   45.356s   
28.   Lorenzo Dalla Porta   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   1m   45.606s   
29.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   45.725s   
30.   Marcos Ramirez   SPA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   1m   45.842s   
31.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   1m   45.844s   
32.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   1m   45.868s   
33.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   1m   46.089s   
34.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   1m   46.527s   
35.   Alex Fabbri   RSM   Minimoto Portomaggiore   (Mahindra)   1m   47.215s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233423/1/moto3-misano-free-practice-1-results.html#9QEp4H2VtRbwjlB1.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233423/1/moto3-misano-free-practice-1-results.html#9QEp4H2VtRbwjlB1.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on September 09, 2016, 11:13:14 am
Moto GP free practice 1:

1.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   33.451s   [Lap 20/20]   289km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   33.587s   +0.136s   [20/21]   289km/h
3.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   33.713s   +0.262s   [16/18]   291km/h
4.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   33.729s   +0.278s   [18/20]   289km/h
5.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   33.774s   +0.323s   [16/19]   291km/h
6.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   33.786s   +0.335s   [13/20]   290km/h
7.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   33.863s   +0.412s   [14/17]   293km/h
8.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   33.882s   +0.431s   [18/19]   290km/h
9.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   33.920s   +0.469s   [17/19]   288km/h
10.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   34.034s   +0.583s   [17/21]   287km/h
11.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   34.072s   +0.621s   [15/17]   287km/h
12.   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   34.126s   +0.675s   [19/20]   287km/h
13.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   34.143s   +0.692s   [15/17]   288km/h
14.   Michele Pirro   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   34.234s   +0.783s   [17/19]   292km/h
15.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   34.412s   +0.961s   [13/14]   288km/h
16.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   34.496s   +1.045s   [19/21]   287km/h
17.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   1m   34.699s   +1.248s   [4/4]   294km/h
18.   Alex Lowes   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   34.923s   +1.472s   [22/22]   287km/h
19.   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   34.925s   +1.474s   [18/18]   288km/h
20.   Eugene Laverty   IRL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   35.280s   +1.829s   [6/15]   289km/h
21.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   1m   35.302s   +1.851s   [19/19]   285km/h
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233424/1/motogp-misano-free-practice-1-results.html#RpvPXOsB0vqxtXUG.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/233424/1/motogp-misano-free-practice-1-results.html#RpvPXOsB0vqxtXUG.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on September 09, 2016, 06:03:18 pm
I believe that Iannone is out after a big off and is in hospital with cracked vertebrae. :-[ 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: landieman on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 am
eish,hope The Maniac recovers soon
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 12, 2016, 09:06:28 pm
Geez, Rossi is really getting old, even Pedrosa is beating him now. :eek7:

I am happy for Danny.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on September 13, 2016, 06:40:18 am
I've never been into road bikes and the few occasions when I have had the chance, I've had no idea how go quick on them. I know the theory, but just haven't ever had enough time on them to learn the skills. I'm happy to stick to dirt.

Neil Hodgson is someone who does know and teaches others how. He's been a world champion and recently got to ride Iannone’s  GP winning bike (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2016/september/riding-andrea-iannone-motogp-gp16-ducati-desmosedici/) and failed.

Really interesting.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on September 13, 2016, 08:28:42 am
Kamanya

Has your Videopass also been erratic the last 2 weeks? Mine keeps stuttering, to the point where I streamed Sunday's race from another channel.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kamanya on September 13, 2016, 08:31:04 am
Kamanya

Has your Videopass also been erratic the last 2 weeks? Mine keeps stuttering, to the point where I streamed Sunday's race from another channel.

Yes, there is grumbling on ADVrider about this.

A bit irritating.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 13, 2016, 09:56:51 am
Has anyone seen the post race press conference where Lorenzo seems very unhappy with the hard pass on him made by Rossi. I thought Dani's pass on Rossi was harder, but anyway. It goes something like this, the actual is quite entertaining.

Lorenzo was also asked for his opinion on the pass and the conversation between the pair unfolded as follows:

Lorenzo: “Well if you ask this question maybe it is because the move is aggressive because if not, then you don't ask this question. You can have different opinions: my opinion was that the overtaking was maybe too aggressive; he didn't need to make this overtaking, but you know this is his style. Other riders overtake more clean… [Rossi laughs].

Lorenzo: “It is true – you don't know?”

Rossi: “No, no, no. Try to look another time at the overtake on the television.”

Lorenzo: “If I don't pull up straight the bike, we crash – I crash. Maybe you don't crash, but I crash for sure.”

Rossi: “This is not true. I don't know what I have to say – Marquez overtake ten times like this at Silverstone. What you say like this is not true.”

Lorenzo: “It is my opinion, my opinion.”

Rossi: “Also you overtake always aggressive, also to me.”

Lorenzo: “When? This is my opinion, also Race Direction will have another opinion. For me, if I don't pull up the bike straight I crash. Anyway he didn't need to do this overtaking, he was better than me today and he would pass me sooner or later, but he didn't need to be so aggressive on me. He will have another opinion.”

Rossi: “Anyway, I do not agree.”

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/233540/1/rossilorenzo-in-postrace-verbal-spat.html#pZ4Mxo7tW2Z65kXu.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/233540/1/rossilorenzo-in-postrace-verbal-spat.html#pZ4Mxo7tW2Z65kXu.99)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2016, 10:09:44 am
Agh shame ou moangat!!! :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 13, 2016, 10:15:25 am
Yeah saw that little panty rant. Rossi had the inside and kept a tight line, Pedrosa went inside and then pushed wide on Rossi, same corner I think. Much more aggressive but either is a bit like complaining about someone roosting you in an offroad race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on September 13, 2016, 10:23:53 am
I just glad that Marques has learned to keep his cool from the last race! I think that he will take the championship with his 42 points lead....he just should keep on relaxing and finish the remaining races like he did!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 13, 2016, 10:27:29 am
I just glad that Marques has learned to keep his cool from the last race! I think that he will take the championship with his 42 points lead....he just should keep on relaxing and finish the remaining races like he did!

I also think you tend to be calmer if you already had 2 crashes during the previous 2 days' practises leading up to the race...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: EtienneXplore on September 13, 2016, 10:29:05 am
Agh shame ou moangat!!! :eek7:

 :imaposer:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 13, 2016, 10:46:26 am
Of course Lorenzo will complain, his season has been terrible. He experienced a loss of form and confidence, he is very much the number 2 in the team (warranted or not) and his team mate's fans hate him because he is Spanish like Marques and the reigning world champion. He was running well but of course Rossi was running better so he had a frustrating race and got drawn into saying stuff he should not have.

I really find it amazing that the original "moangat" Rossi can come with a completely illogical conspiracy theory last year and almost no comments on this forum. Lorenzo complains about the aggressive pass from his team mate and everyone jumps on it.

This blinkered view of Rossi fans is sad but also entertaining At least the few remaining Lorenzo fans won’t attack Rossi’s family, due to some imagined slight which exists in the rider’s head only.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2016, 10:58:17 am
To which brand is Loranzo moving to next season?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 13, 2016, 11:03:35 am
To which brand is Loranzo moving to next season?

Ducati
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2016, 11:04:41 am
To which brand is Loranzo moving to next season?

Ducati
and his teammate at Ducati?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on September 13, 2016, 11:09:32 am
Of course Lorenzo will complain, his season has been terrible. He experienced a loss of form and confidence, he is very much the number 2 in the team (warranted or not) and his team mate's fans hate him because he is Spanish like Marques and the reigning world champion. He was running well but of course Rossi was running better so he had a frustrating race and got drawn into saying stuff he should not have.

I really find it amazing that the original "moangat" Rossi can come with a completely illogical conspiracy theory last year and almost no comments on this forum. Lorenzo complains about the aggressive pass from his team mate and everyone jumps on it.

This blinkered view of Rossi fans is sad but also entertaining At least the few remaining Lorenzo fans won’t attack Rossi’s family, due to some imagined slight which exists in the rider’s head only.


You're a Lorenzo fan? Respect dude, someone's gotta do it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 13, 2016, 11:10:45 am
To which brand is Loranzo moving to next season?

Ducati
and his teammate at Ducati?

Dovi
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 13, 2016, 11:12:21 am
To which brand is Loranzo moving to next season?

Ducati
and his teammate at Ducati?

Dovi
I wish Rossi would move to Suzuki. Id like to see what the bikes are capable of in his hands.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 13, 2016, 11:20:39 am
Even google thinks Rossi is the best  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 13, 2016, 01:51:13 pm

You're a Lorenzo fan? Respect dude, someone's gotta do it.

No I'm not not, just feel sorry for the guy. Having Rossi as a team mate can not be easy, where have you ever heard of a team getting rid of the reigning world champion.

I do think Lorenzo may still have a few fans left, although even the commentators were making fun of how few supporters he has left on Sunday.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 13, 2016, 01:53:27 pm

I do think Lorenzo may still have a few fans left, although even the commentators were making fun of how few supporters he has left on Sunday.

I think it might look different at Aragon.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2016, 03:18:52 pm
Rossi fans are not Rossi fans because he moans more or less than anyone else, they are fans because he is the best. You can argue, but not with NINE world championships.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on September 13, 2016, 03:55:42 pm
Rossi fans are not Rossi fans because he moans more or less than anyone else, they are fans because he is the best. You can argue, but not with NINE world championships.

a legend,  and nice guy,  who is putting back into the sport he loves.
watch his 'the doctor' series on youtube.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Cracker on September 14, 2016, 09:18:52 am
Nothing wrong with aggression in sport - that's what sport is for  :thumleft:

And the elite in any sport are gonna be the most aggressive - that's how they got there in the first place.

To be honest, I don't think they really moan about it. What they're expressing gets lost in translation, they're all speaking in a 2nd language.

Except for Crutchlow, he came across as a real knob when he won his first race, calling the rest of them wimps. He went from hero to zero in 5 seconds flat ........................ can't blame translation for that one.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 14, 2016, 09:21:42 am
Except for Crutchlow, he came across as a real knob when he won his first race, calling the rest of them wimps.

My opinion of him went right out the door when he said that. Just because he supposedly made a better tyrechoice then them they are now wimps. Weird really weird. :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 14, 2016, 09:30:19 am
 :lol8: I love listening to Crutchlow.
He doesn't often get an opportunity to speak to international press, but when he does he is always entertaining. But, if I was a fellow rider I would have had a word with him later...
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 14, 2016, 09:48:35 am
Rossi fans are not Rossi fans because he moans more or less than anyone else, they are fans because he is the best. You can argue, but not with NINE world championships.

I agree wholeheartedly that he is an incredibly talented rider who for most of his career was head and shoulders above the competition.

a legend,  and nice guy,  who is putting back into the sport he loves.
watch his 'the doctor' series on youtube.

Surely you can not base your conclusion on a one sided self promotional series on youtube. Throughout his career there has been controversy and conflict with other riders. Nothing wrong with it, these are modern day gladiators in a very competitive sport where they risk injury and death every time they compete.

Also nothing wrong with being a fan of the man, I was one for many years. I however did not lose all perspective. Rossi is a human being with flaws and the complexities that most humans have. Of course he can be a good guy and an arsehole. To such an extent that he can actually lose a championship by being an arsehole.

That was my point, all the riders including Lorenzo, Rossi and Marques have their flaws. Rossi should not have been an arsehole in a press conference, Marques should not have gotten angry and been an arsehole on track. Lorenzo should not have been an arsehole in a press conference and lets hope Rossi does not get angry be an arsehole on track again as we have seen him be.

Take your blinkers off and accept that criticism can be leveled at a sometimes "nice guy" as well
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 14, 2016, 09:51:07 am
:lol8: I love listening to Crutchlow.
He doesn't often get an opportunity to speak to international press, but when he does he is always entertaining. But, if I was a fellow rider I would have had a word with him later...

I think it's tongue in cheek, the others know this which is why you don't see any reaction from them.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 14, 2016, 10:07:48 am
:lol8: I love listening to Crutchlow.
He doesn't often get an opportunity to speak to international press, but when he does he is always entertaining. But, if I was a fellow rider I would have had a word with him later...

I think it's tongue in cheek, the others know this which is why you don't see any reaction from them.

I also thought so and had a good laugh when he said it. He looks like a good guy and someone you could have a beer with
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on September 14, 2016, 10:14:21 am

Surely you can not base your conclusion on a one sided self promotional series on youtube.

Also nothing wrong with being a fan of the man, I was one for many years. I however did not lose all perspective.

Take your blinkers off and accept that criticism can be leveled at a sometimes "nice guy" as well

you are right.   i have also watched his entire career.

i will try to regain some of the perspective i have lost.

thanks for the tip - will come in handy through the course of my life. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 14, 2016, 10:23:26 am
The personalities of these top guys, and their human weaknesses, is why I am not a fanboy. It would anyway be silly for an old toppie to look at
a youngster like these in adolation.
Just admire them for what they are.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on September 14, 2016, 11:26:44 am
:lol8: I love listening to Crutchlow.
He doesn't often get an opportunity to speak to international press, but when he does he is always entertaining. But, if I was a fellow rider I would have had a word with him later...

I think it's tongue in cheek, the others know this which is why you don't see any reaction from them.

I also thought so and had a good laugh when he said it. He looks like a good guy and someone you could have a beer with

Agreed. That was sort of my point. I would have given him shit later, over a beer. And hopefully get him back sometime. I like that sort of banter, as opposed to some of the hot blooded Mediterranean riders and their fans who get their panties in a twist.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on September 14, 2016, 12:13:52 pm
I thought Cal Crutchlow was a breath of fresh air compared to hearing what someone like Lorenzo usually has to say after the race
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on September 14, 2016, 12:39:14 pm
I thought Cal Crutchlow was a breath of fresh air compared to hearing what someone like Lorenzo usually has to say after the race

+1
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 14, 2016, 12:40:56 pm
I thought Cal Crutchlow was a breath of fresh air compared to hearing what someone like Lorenzo usually has to say after the race
At least we know his wifes name is Lucy, cause we hear it every time :deal: :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: IceCreamMan on September 14, 2016, 12:43:19 pm
Rossi fans are not Rossi fans because he moans more or less than anyone else, they are fans because he is the best. You can argue, but not with NINE world championships.

I agree wholeheartedly that he is an incredibly talented rider who for most of his career was head and shoulders above the competition.

a legend,  and nice guy,  who is putting back into the sport he loves.
watch his 'the doctor' series on youtube.

Surely you can not base your conclusion on a one sided self promotional series on youtube. Throughout his career there has been controversy and conflict with other riders. Nothing wrong with it, these are modern day gladiators in a very competitive sport where they risk injury and death every time they compete.

Also nothing wrong with being a fan of the man, I was one for many years. I however did not lose all perspective. Rossi is a human being with flaws and the complexities that most humans have. Of course he can be a good guy and an arsehole. To such an extent that he can actually lose a championship by being an arsehole.

That was my point, all the riders including Lorenzo, Rossi and Marques have their flaws. Rossi should not have been an arsehole in a press conference, Marques should not have gotten angry and been an arsehole on track. Lorenzo should not have been an arsehole in a press conference and lets hope Rossi does not get angry be an arsehole on track again as we have seen him be.

Take your blinkers off and accept that criticism can be leveled at a sometimes "nice guy" as well

Rossi is a legend , a god if you will....anyone who says different is going to hell....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on September 14, 2016, 01:30:23 pm
Rossi is a legend , a god if you will....anyone who says different is going to hell....
:angryfire:  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on September 14, 2016, 03:46:12 pm


Rossi is a legend , a god if you will....anyone who says different is going to hell....

+1000!   :thumleft:  :imaposer:

And not straight either!  It will be seriously off-road route on a 2000+cc Cruiser as well! 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 14, 2016, 04:24:35 pm
Here is an interesting read that fits with the last few comments on this thread. I think the author has summed it up pretty nicely.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Aug/160818breakingdownvr.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Aug/160818breakingdownvr.htm)

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: tok-tokkie on September 19, 2016, 10:12:06 am
Here is an extremely interesting article about the effects of the aerodynamic 'aids' that the bikes now have & why Pedrosa usually runs without them & why the Ducatis qualify so fast but fade during the race.
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets (http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on September 19, 2016, 10:22:27 am
Here is an extremely interesting article about the effects of the aerodynamic 'aids' that the bikes now have & why Pedrosa usually runs without them & why the Ducatis qualify so fast but fade during the race.
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets (http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets)

Thanks!  :thumleft: Intersting read indeed.....
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on September 19, 2016, 10:47:19 am
Here is an extremely interesting article about the effects of the aerodynamic 'aids' that the bikes now have & why Pedrosa usually runs without them & why the Ducatis qualify so fast but fade during the race.
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets (http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets)

Thanks!  :thumleft: Intersting read indeed.....

Very
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on September 19, 2016, 10:48:52 am
Here is an extremely interesting article about the effects of the aerodynamic 'aids' that the bikes now have & why Pedrosa usually runs without them & why the Ducatis qualify so fast but fade during the race.
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets (http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets)

Makes perfect sense to me; I am glad they are banning these winglets.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Tony the Boney on September 19, 2016, 10:55:05 am
Here is an extremely interesting article about the effects of the aerodynamic 'aids' that the bikes now have & why Pedrosa usually runs without them & why the Ducatis qualify so fast but fade during the race.
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets (http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-nakamoto-reveals-hidden-downside-winglets)

Makes perfect sense to me; I am glad they are banning these winglets.

+1
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Frankrzzgp on September 22, 2016, 05:20:34 pm
:imaposer:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160922/65e88fd90102d4a662fb56bec5309c37.jpg)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: JonW on September 23, 2016, 09:41:59 am
All the legends:

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on September 23, 2016, 02:22:29 pm
All the legends:



indeed.
one head and shoulders above the rest.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Suzukli DL on September 23, 2016, 06:45:21 pm
Only one legend there and another one set to get to that status... Bib  :biggrin: the others are going to be kak aliens  :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 24, 2016, 03:11:28 pm
Here is an interesting read that fits with the last few comments on this thread. I think the author has summed it up pretty nicely.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Aug/160818breakingdownvr.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Aug/160818breakingdownvr.htm)



This is one of the best descriptions I have ever read on VR and his career/personality/racecraft, etc.

They also note one of his outstanding achievements were to arrive on the scene and make the then top order obsolete straight away. Very few guys did this before VR, and
certainly no-one did this since VR.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: weskus on September 26, 2016, 09:27:27 am
Ai, so gehoop die Suzuki eindig darem op die podium, was bietjie vergesog neem ek aan..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on September 26, 2016, 09:38:34 am
Ai, so gehoop die Suzuki eindig darem op die podium, was bietjie vergesog neem ek aan..
Ek het altyd gedink daar is fout met die Suzuki maar dit was al die tyd die jokkies by wie die fout was.
Hoop ons sien meer van hulle op die podium in die toekoms.
Op die pad bly hulle blitsig.
Noudiedag aan jou en jou GSXRYZ gedink toe ons Van Rhynspas uitry.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on September 26, 2016, 01:00:45 pm
They also note one of his outstanding achievements were to arrive on the scene and make the then top order obsolete straight away. Very few guys did this before VR, and certainly no-one did this since VR.

I beg to differ

Marquez won the 2013 and 2014 MotoGP World Championships.

Marquez became the first rider since Kenny Roberts in 1978 to accomplish the premier class title in his first season, and the youngest to win the title overall.

Does that not count as making the existing top order obsolete?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Dwerg on September 26, 2016, 01:32:59 pm
Does that not count as making the existing top order obsolete?

Het hy vergeet Lorenzo en Rossi is obsolete in 2015?  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 26, 2016, 01:49:30 pm
They also note one of his outstanding achievements were to arrive on the scene and make the then top order obsolete straight away. Very few guys did this before VR, and certainly no-one did this since VR.

I beg to differ

Marquez won the 2013 and 2014 MotoGP World Championships.

Marquez became the first rider since Kenny Roberts in 1978 to accomplish the premier class title in his first season, and the youngest to win the title overall.

Does that not count as making the existing top order obsolete?

I obviously did not think this thing through properly. :-[ Of course Marquez also arrived with a bang.

Time will tell us whether it is to be a 9WC bang. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on October 14, 2016, 09:53:08 am
Three races in a row coming up starting this weekend.

And poor Pedrosa has broken his collar bone again in a huge accident in free practice 2.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on October 14, 2016, 10:43:53 am
Poor Dani.... He actually had a good chance here I thought

What happened to Brad in FP2?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 14, 2016, 10:54:28 am
Poor Dani.... He actually had a good chance here I thought

What happened to Brad in FP2?

He crashed twice.  Front end tire issues.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on October 14, 2016, 12:13:33 pm
Does that not count as making the existing top order obsolete?

Het hy vergeet Lorenzo en Rossi is obsolete in 2015?  :pot:

Yes MM only did 2 in row while Rossi did 5 in a row. However the top order was Kenny Roberts Jr and Max Biaggi. KR jr was the world champion which shows what the competitive landscape looked like then.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on October 14, 2016, 12:29:55 pm
Whats happening.. I don't have DSTV and I think I missed a race or 2..

when is the next one
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on October 14, 2016, 12:33:38 pm
Whats happening.. I don't have DSTV and I think I missed a race or 2..

when is the next one

Lees en presteer

Three races in a row coming up starting this weekend.

And poor Pedrosa has broken his collar bone again in a huge accident in free practice 2.


Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on October 16, 2016, 08:17:40 am
Well done MM.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on October 16, 2016, 07:56:18 pm
Well done, Marc.

With oupa Valentino retiring soon[cannot see him continue racing for more than another year] Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

He only needs 4 more MotoGP titles. :peepwall: But he could seriously do it, only 23 years old and a huge talent, and looking at the current competition,
it could be another Wayne Gardner run for an open try-line.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 16, 2016, 08:01:28 pm
Well done, Marc.

With oupa Valentino retiring soon[cannot see him continue racing for more than another year] Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

He only needs 4 more MotoGP titles. :peepwall: But he could seriously do it, only 23 years old and a huge talent, and looking at the current competition,
it could be another Wayne Gardner run for an open try-line.

MM93 won this championship with superior consistency.  Well done.  He is growing up nicely.

Rossi signed for two years with Yamaha.  Expect to see him around for 2017 and 2018.

I wonder how far back we need to go in history to have a race where both factory Yamahas went down?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on October 16, 2016, 08:12:38 pm
Iemand by Yamaha racing het seker vandag n drol soos n Vimblik gekak. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 16, 2016, 08:18:21 pm
Iemand by Yamaha racing het seker vandag n drol soos n Vimblik gekak. :thumleft:

 :laughing4:

Inderdaad!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on October 17, 2016, 06:25:28 am
Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

he's going to re-write the history books.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bensien on October 17, 2016, 07:20:03 am
I don't know if it is old news, but KTM has been allowed to enter a bike for the last race of the season at Valencia
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: weskus on October 17, 2016, 07:28:16 am
Iemand by Yamaha racing het seker vandag n drol soos n Vimblik gekak. :thumleft:
Ai, lyk my dis ook al hoe die Suzbokse die podium haal :deal:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on October 17, 2016, 07:40:36 am
Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

he's going to re-write the history books.



This is where we are now; Giacomo Agostini......8 titles.
                                       Rossi.......................7
                                       Mick Doohan.............5
                                       Geoff Duke...............4
                                       John Surtees.............4
                                       Mike Hailwood            4
                                       Eddie Lawson            4
                                       Kenny Roberts[snr]     3
                                       Wayne Rainey             3
                                       Jorge Lorenzo              3
                                       Marc Marquez              3
NB...this is counting only the 500cc/MotoGP premier class world titles.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on October 17, 2016, 02:07:31 pm
Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

he's going to re-write the history books.



This is where we are now; Giacomo Agostini......8 titles.
                                       Rossi.......................7
                                       Mick Doohan.............5
                                       Geoff Duke...............4
                                       John Surtees.............4
                                       Mike Hailwood            4
                                       Eddie Lawson            4
                                       Kenny Roberts[snr]     3
                                       Wayne Rainey             3
                                       Jorge Lorenzo              3
                                       Marc Marquez              3
NB...this is counting only the 500cc/MotoGP premier class world titles.

Look I recon Marques is the next Rossi plus some when it comes to racing a bike....he has natural talent like no-one before. He is only 23 and would be able to brake all the records without taking a sweat. I like seeing him racing!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 17, 2016, 02:34:33 pm
Marc Marquez could actually top Rossi's 9 world titles.

he's going to re-write the history books.



This is where we are now; Giacomo Agostini......8 titles.
                                       Rossi.......................7
                                       Mick Doohan.............5
                                       Geoff Duke...............4
                                       John Surtees.............4
                                       Mike Hailwood            4
                                       Eddie Lawson            4
                                       Kenny Roberts[snr]     3
                                       Wayne Rainey             3
                                       Jorge Lorenzo              3
                                       Marc Marquez              3
NB...this is counting only the 500cc/MotoGP premier class world titles.

I have no doubt that MM93, or even another rider if he doesn't, will eventually break all the existing records, even those of VR46 and that is not a bad thing.  Records are meant to be broken.

The one thing that Rossi did do, that no one else can, or will in future be able to claim though, is that he was champion over an  era of huge change.  Two stroke to four.  990, 800, 1000, etc.  He probably had to adapt more than most.   Also, just like Agostini and others, his name will always be held in high regard.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on October 19, 2016, 12:26:27 pm
Well done!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on October 19, 2016, 05:54:05 pm
For a moment it looked like Jorge Lorenzo cheering behind MM. :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 19, 2016, 06:01:19 pm
For a moment it looked like Jorge Lorenzo cheering behind MM. :thumleft:
Having looked at sundays race I found it very odd that Loranzo lost his backwheel. Riders like him should not be losing a backwheel because he opened up too hard/soon.
Frontwheel is a bit different though.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 25, 2016, 10:00:32 am
Congrats with an excellent 4th place #40 Darryn Binder!  Well done.

(http://www.polepositionvip.com/images/dbinder.jpg)
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on October 25, 2016, 10:03:43 am
Who is riding the two Suzuki's next year?
Would like to see the brand do better and it has done so this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Bus on October 25, 2016, 10:05:43 am
Iannone moved to them.

Not sure if Aleix Espargaro has been kept around either?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on October 25, 2016, 11:39:14 am
Who is riding the two Suzuki's next year?
Would like to see the brand do better and it has done so this year.



 Andrea Ianone and Alex Rins

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ganjora on October 25, 2016, 11:48:10 am
Who is riding the two Suzuki's next year?
Would like to see the brand do better and it has done so this year.



Alex Rins

my favourite moto 2 rider.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on October 31, 2016, 06:06:05 am
I'm not exactly sure of the points standing, but VR is probably going to achieve 2nd place in 2016 MotoGP championship for the second successive year...well done "öld man"  :deal: not many 37 year old will in future be able to claim that!  :thumleft:

 Next year promises exiting new riders, rider changes and the prowess of the Suzuki's and off course Saffers interest  :3some: in Moto2 with Brad Binder...  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: SteveD on October 31, 2016, 07:26:04 am
Strange Moto3 race, with so many riders, including BiB, crashing at the same place. Something on the track, or just bad luck, or new tar? Brad seemed a bit miffed, I like that he got back to the pits, got  the bike repaired and went out again  :thumleft:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on October 31, 2016, 12:18:46 pm
Strange Moto3 race, with so many riders, including BiB, crashing at the same place. Something on the track, or just bad luck, or new tar? Brad seemed a bit miffed, I like that he got back to the pits, got  the bike repaired and went put again  :thumleft:

I agree, very weird.
Also agree, Brad getting back onto track shows character.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on October 31, 2016, 12:29:54 pm
Suffering from some serious post trip depression, so I'll leave this here.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Ri on October 31, 2016, 02:21:31 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on November 15, 2016, 03:05:01 pm
Maybe should be under a new 2017 thread, but here are the test times so far with all the gents on their new machinery at Valencia.

Even Rossi said, you write off Lorenzo on the Duke next year at your own peril.

Testing takes place from 10am to 5pm...

1.   Rossi, Valentino   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.950s   
2.   Iannone, Andrea   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   31.165s   +0.215s   
3.   Viñales, Maverick   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   31.234s   +0.284s   
4.   Marquez, Marc   SPA   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   31.289s   +0.339s   
5.   Pedrosa, Dani   SPA   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   31.320s   +0.370s   
6.   Miller, Jack   AUS   Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   31.477s   +0.527s   
7.   Lorenzo, Jorge   SPA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   31.575s   +0.625s   
8.   Crutchlow, Cal   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   31.603s   +0.653s   
9.   Redding, Scott   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15/16)   1m   31.668s   +0.718s   
10.   Pirro, Michele   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP16/17)   1m   32.068s   +1.118s   
11.   Espargaro, Aleix   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   32.177s   +1.227s   
12.   Dovizioso, Andrea   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16/17)   1m   32.219s   +1.269s   
13.   Barbera, Hector   SPA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2/16)   1m   32.321s   +1.371s   
14.   Rabat, Tito   GBR   Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   32.578s   +1.628s   
15.   Espargaro, Pol   SPA   KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.088s   +2.138s   
16.   Bautista, Alvaro   SPA   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.156s   +2.206s   
17.   Baz, Loris   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.251s   +2.301s   
18.   Folger, Jonas   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   33.317s   +2.367s   
19.   Zarco, Johann   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   33.511s   +2.561s   
20.   Laverty, Eugene   IRL   Aprilia Test Rider (RS-GP)   1m   33.800s   +2.850s   
21.   Rins, Alex   SPA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   33.978s   +3.028s   
22.   Lowes, Sam   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   33.987s   +3.037s   
23.   Tsuda, Takuya   JPN   Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR)   1m   34.110s   +3.160s   
24.   Abraham, Karel   CZE   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2/15)   1m   34.436s   +3.486s   
25.   Smith, Bradley   GBR   KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   34.496s   +3.546s   
26.   Bagnaia, Francesco   ITA   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   36.940s   +5.990s   

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235211/1/valencia-motogp-test-times-tuesday-1pm.html#dZr2UqP6pGUGgpwi.99

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: weskus on November 15, 2016, 04:45:38 pm
Maybe should be under a new 2017 thread, but here are the test times so far with all the gents on their new machinery at Valencia.

Even Rossi said, you write off Lorenzo on the Duke next year at your own peril.

Testing takes place from 10am to 5pm...

1.   Rossi, Valentino   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.950s   
2.   Iannone, Andrea   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   31.165s   +0.215s   
3.   Viñales, Maverick   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   31.234s   +0.284s   
4.   Marquez, Marc   SPA   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   31.289s   +0.339s   
5.   Pedrosa, Dani   SPA   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   31.320s   +0.370s   
6.   Miller, Jack   AUS   Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   31.477s   +0.527s   
7.   Lorenzo, Jorge   SPA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   31.575s   +0.625s   
8.   Crutchlow, Cal   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   31.603s   +0.653s   
9.   Redding, Scott   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15/16)   1m   31.668s   +0.718s   
10.   Pirro, Michele   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP16/17)   1m   32.068s   +1.118s   
11.   Espargaro, Aleix   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   32.177s   +1.227s   
12.   Dovizioso, Andrea   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP16/17)   1m   32.219s   +1.269s   
13.   Barbera, Hector   SPA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2/16)   1m   32.321s   +1.371s   
14.   Rabat, Tito   GBR   Estrella Galica 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   32.578s   +1.628s   
15.   Espargaro, Pol   SPA   KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.088s   +2.138s   
16.   Bautista, Alvaro   SPA   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.156s   +2.206s   
17.   Baz, Loris   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.251s   +2.301s   
18.   Folger, Jonas   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   33.317s   +2.367s   
19.   Zarco, Johann   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   1m   33.511s   +2.561s   
20.   Laverty, Eugene   IRL   Aprilia Test Rider (RS-GP)   1m   33.800s   +2.850s   
21.   Rins, Alex   SPA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   33.978s   +3.028s   
22.   Lowes, Sam   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   33.987s   +3.037s   
23.   Tsuda, Takuya   JPN   Suzuki Test Rider (GSX-RR)   1m   34.110s   +3.160s   
24.   Abraham, Karel   CZE   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2/15)   1m   34.436s   +3.486s   
25.   Smith, Bradley   GBR   KTM MotoGP Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   34.496s   +3.546s   
26.   Bagnaia, Francesco   ITA   Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP14.2)   1m   36.940s   +5.990s   

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235211/1/valencia-motogp-test-times-tuesday-1pm.html#dZr2UqP6pGUGgpwi.99
Interesting, Alex Rins sal bietjie moet sokkies optel...sou graag vir Vinales nog in jr op die Suzuki wou sien met al die nuwe dinge vir 2017..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: DUSTRIDERS on November 15, 2016, 04:57:34 pm
sou graag vir Vinales nog in jr op die Suzuki wou sien

Ek het presies dieseelfde ding sondag gedink. Hy ken nou die fiets en dit wil lyk asof die Suzuki kan byhou.
Yamaha sal moet plan maak. Die Ducati's hol darem net te maklik op die straits vir hulle weg. Die dat Jorge nou volgende jaar n Ducati ry kan dinge moeilik maak.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 19, 2016, 10:41:16 am
Tydens die twee dae privaat toetssessie op Valencia was Vinales die vinnigste op die 2017 Yamaha.  Die groot kannonne soos MM93, JL99, DP26 en VR46 gaan hulle hande vol hê met hom en die Yamaha volgende jaar.  Ianone lyk ook sommer dadelik gevaarlik op die 2017 Suzuki en ons moenie vergeet nie,.  die vlerkies waai volgende jaar en dan sukkel die Ducati met hantering.  Hulle was die enigste span wat die week nog met vlerkies aan getoets het.  JL99 was derde vinnigste, maar soos ek sê, dit was met vlerkies.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: 2StrokeDan on November 21, 2016, 09:14:57 pm
sou graag vir Vinales nog in jr op die Suzuki wou sien

Ek het presies dieseelfde ding sondag gedink. Hy ken nou die fiets en dit wil lyk asof die Suzuki kan byhou.
Yamaha sal moet plan maak. Die Ducati's hol darem net te maklik op die straits vir hulle weg. Die dat Jorge nou volgende jaar n Ducati ry kan dinge moeilik maak.

In my opinie is dit juis die feit dat die Ducati's almal weghol op die straight dat hulle nie kan wen nie. Yamaha kan meer perde kry en beter topspoed, maar onthou daardie topspoed moet weer afgegooi word om te draai wat die fiets net "unsettle" vir die draai.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 22, 2016, 06:27:50 am
sou graag vir Vinales nog in jr op die Suzuki wou sien

Ek het presies dieseelfde ding sondag gedink. Hy ken nou die fiets en dit wil lyk asof die Suzuki kan byhou.
Yamaha sal moet plan maak. Die Ducati's hol darem net te maklik op die straits vir hulle weg. Die dat Jorge nou volgende jaar n Ducati ry kan dinge moeilik maak.

In my opinie is dit juis die feit dat die Ducati's almal weghol op die straight dat hulle nie kan wen nie. Yamaha kan meer perde kry en beter topspoed, maar onthou daardie topspoed moet weer afgegooi word om te draai wat die fiets net "unsettle" vir die draai.

Yamaha sukkel hulle gatte af om meer perde te kry.  Hulle slaag nie op die oomblik daarin nie, maar jy is reg in 'n mate.  Honda het daai perde gekry, maar kan dit nie beheer nie, so dit skep weer ander probleme.  Ek dink Yamaha sou graag ook 'n "te veel krag" probleem wou hê en dan werk om dit te beheer.

Die goed het in elk geval almal te veel perde.  Ek hoor hulle launch control laat hulle teen so 60% krag wegtrek.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Warren Ellwood on November 24, 2016, 12:05:15 pm
Some interesting testing times from Jerez.

Superbikes in among the MotoGP bikes.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: I&horse on November 24, 2016, 12:58:18 pm
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Some interesting testing times from Jerez.

Superbikes in among the MotoGP bikes.



Very interesting indeed, I thought the MotoGP bikes were MUCH quicker than SBK. They're certainly MUUUUUCH more expensive!!
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: bud500 on November 24, 2016, 02:06:14 pm
I agree, that is very surprising.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on November 25, 2016, 03:22:56 pm
Some interesting testing times from Jerez.

Superbikes in among the MotoGP bikes.

Yesterday Rea was fastest with a time quicker than Rossi's pole time for the race this year! And Davies was a close third, Sykes in fifth.

I bet even Davies' Panigale is faster than the factory Honda and Yamaha down the straights  :pot: 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on November 25, 2016, 03:49:19 pm
Some interesting testing times from Jerez.

Superbikes in among the MotoGP bikes.

Yesterday Rea was fastest with a time quicker than Rossi's pole time for the race this year! And Davies was a close third, Sykes in fifth.

I bet even Davies' Panigale is faster than the factory Honda and Yamaha down the straights  :pot: 

Fokkit boys...if that is a fact  :laughing4:, who is bulshitting who then...what's the point of having these 2 categories then???... :patch:...then Dorna can just through them all together on superbikes?...so much so for the development stories that goes along with MotoGP...the flippen SBK category does more...with sooo much less!!!  :pot:

Give us (me) some perspective Bear...  :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: ChrisMann on November 25, 2016, 08:46:00 pm
Still a huge difference between GP en Superbikes.

The GP bikes were on tires that does not work in cold conditions. They could not get the tires to warm up. The Superbikes were on sticky tires that are available to the public and which work well in the cold.

Don't read to much in it.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 28, 2016, 06:54:49 am
Some interesting testing times from Jerez.

Superbikes in among the MotoGP bikes.

Yesterday Rea was fastest with a time quicker than Rossi's pole time for the race this year! And Davies was a close third, Sykes in fifth.

I bet even Davies' Panigale is faster than the factory Honda and Yamaha down the straights  :pot: 

Fokkit boys...if that is a fact  :laughing4:, who is bulshitting who then...what's the point of having these 2 categories then???... :patch:...then Dorna can just through them all together on superbikes?...so much so for the development stories that goes along with MotoGP...the flippen SBK category does more...with sooo much less!!!  :pot:

Give us (me) some perspective Bear...  :-\

Tires were already mentioned.   They had to impact.   Track temperatures will also impact.  If we look at the MGP bikes (third team bikes, for the lack of a better description as none of the factory -, or satellite teams were there) testing on the same day, they were also very close to the Rossi-pole metioned.  On that race weekend when Rossi set that pole, these "third team" MGP bikes were nowhere near that pole time. 

In my opinion neither tires, nor track temperatures should make a big enough difference to get a WSBK bike within some seconds off a MGP bike.  The issue here is (again purely my opinion) is that WSBK bikes are now, for all intents and purposes, purpose build prototype race bikes, just like MGP bikes.  The WSBK bikes should be forced back to a closer resemblance of an actual superbike..   They don't have standard suspensions, swingarms, brakes, frames, air intakes, fuel tanks, etc.   In fact, the only connection with the original superbike it was based on is the logo on the tank.  In fact it seems that the top WSBK bikes are now closer to MGP bikes than Superstock 1000 bikes are to them.

 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on November 28, 2016, 12:05:48 pm
Thanks Bear...very interesting indeed!  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on November 28, 2016, 03:46:34 pm
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on November 29, 2016, 09:01:34 am
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:

 >:D
SBK has always been the retirement formula for GP riders who were over the hill, yet they performed remarkably well in SBK. Checa, Biaggi, Hayden, etc.This makes those times all the more astonishing, because the level of SBK riders is nowhere near MotoGP standards. Put Marques on the ZX10 and he will probably win every SBK race by half a minute.

The majority of SBK world champions who went on to MotoGP at the peak of their careers were midfielders at best.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on November 29, 2016, 09:20:02 am
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:

 >:D
SBK has always been the retirement formula for GP riders who were over the hill, yet they performed remarkably well in SBK. Checa, Biaggi, Hayden, etc.This makes those times all the more astonishing, because the level of SBK riders is nowhere near MotoGP standards. Put Marques on the ZX10 and he will probably win every SBK race by half a minute.

The majority of SBK world champions who went on to MotoGP at the peak of their careers were midfielders at best.
Really, like whom, Ben Spies and Colin Edwards and Troy Ballis they made it in MotoGP
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on November 29, 2016, 09:25:58 am
There is also a difference between outright speed over one lap and pace over race distance. Those sbk bikes would be nowhere after two or three laps into the race.

The moto gp races are typically 10 to 12 minutes longer (which can be 6 to 9 laps depending on the track) than sbk races. Therefore in moto gp you are optimising the bike to achieve pace but also tyre life and engine life.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on November 29, 2016, 03:25:31 pm
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:

 >:D
SBK has always been the retirement formula for GP riders who were over the hill, yet they performed remarkably well in SBK. Checa, Biaggi, Hayden, etc.This makes those times all the more astonishing, because the level of SBK riders is nowhere near MotoGP standards. Put Marques on the ZX10 and he will probably win every SBK race by half a minute.

The majority of SBK world champions who went on to MotoGP at the peak of their careers were midfielders at best.
Really, like whom, Ben Spies and Colin Edwards and Troy Ballis they made it in MotoGP

Well, those 3 were probably the best to go across at the top of their game, and they managed a 4th, 5th, and 6th in the championship as their best achievements in MotoGP.

In contrast Checa, Biaggi and Guintoli all won SBK championships in their retirement.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Sithe on November 29, 2016, 03:29:23 pm
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:

 >:D
SBK has always been the retirement formula for GP riders who were over the hill, yet they performed remarkably well in SBK. Checa, Biaggi, Hayden, etc.This makes those times all the more astonishing, because the level of SBK riders is nowhere near MotoGP standards. Put Marques on the ZX10 and he will probably win every SBK race by half a minute.

The majority of SBK world champions who went on to MotoGP at the peak of their careers were midfielders at best.
Really, like whom, Ben Spies and Colin Edwards and Troy Ballis they made it in MotoGP

Well, those 3 were probably the best to go across at the top of their game, and they managed a 4th, 5th, and 6th in the championship as their best achievements in MotoGP.

In contrast Checa, Biaggi and Guintoli all won SBK championships in their retirement.

I rest my case.

Nicky Hayden won a championship in MotoGp but he is not setting Sbk on fire  :pot:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on November 29, 2016, 04:01:10 pm
My bad, WSBK riders are the very best in the whole wide world!  :lol8:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on November 30, 2016, 08:21:49 am
I have feeling Rea would be right up there if he was on a factory MGP bike
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Serfie on November 30, 2016, 08:48:52 am
Well...whatever the case may be...guess well never know...there's just too many variables.  :-\  I am just ABSOLUTELY FASCINATED when I watch motorbike races, be it Moto3 SBK or MotoGP...even our SA races...those guys are actually doing something with that machine... I will not be able to do in a million years...they way they handle them at such speeds really boggles the mind...truly a spectacle and riveting to watch...so much more pleasurable than Springbok rugby!!!  :patch:
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on November 30, 2016, 09:16:34 am
Maybe the WSBK riders are better than the MotoGP riders  :peepwall:

 >:D
SBK has always been the retirement formula for GP riders who were over the hill, yet they performed remarkably well in SBK. Checa, Biaggi, Hayden, etc.This makes those times all the more astonishing, because the level of SBK riders is nowhere near MotoGP standards. Put Marques on the ZX10 and he will probably win every SBK race by half a minute.

The majority of SBK world champions who went on to MotoGP at the peak of their careers were midfielders at best.
Really, like whom, Ben Spies and Colin Edwards and Troy Ballis they made it in MotoGP

Well, those 3 were probably the best to go across at the top of their game, and they managed a 4th, 5th, and 6th in the championship as their best achievements in MotoGP.

In contrast Checa, Biaggi and Guintoli all won SBK championships in their retirement.

I rest my case.
Best you improve your google research, Guintoli was never a MotoGP champion, or rider, came from BSB, Checca and Biaggi both did not have contracts re-newed and were not going down to Moto2.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 30, 2016, 01:17:44 pm
Well...whatever the case may be...guess well never know...there's just too many variables.  :-\  I am just ABSOLUTELY FASCINATED when I watch motorbike races, be it Moto3 SBK or MotoGP...even our SA races...those guys are actually doing something with that machine... I will not be able to do in a million years...they way they handle them at such speeds really boggles the mind...truly a spectacle and riveting to watch...so much more pleasurable than Springbok rugby!!!  :patch:

+1!

It is a pretty moot debate anyway, since the riders move between the two championships, but seldomly from a comparable team in terms of equipment.   
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on November 30, 2016, 02:08:26 pm
Some views on MGP v SBK v SS (superstock) v Standard

Difference between MGP factory and SBK about 2 seconds (see Donovan's article).
Difference between MGP factory and SS about 10 seconds. Some tracks the SS bikes lapped faster than the MGP CRT bikes.
Difference between MGP factory and Standard 12 seconds.

That means a factory MGP team is spending R20 mil to gain 10 seconds and then we are not taking into account the riders. Raffaele De Rosa can probably not be compared to Marc Marquez. I would love to see what lap time MM or VR can do on a Superstock bike.

Of course we should not forget all the work Dorna has done to slow the bikes down in MGP (tyres and electronics). This means that MM or VR can probably take a stock S1000RR HP4 with Pirelli Supercorsa SCO's off the show room floor, and put it on the grid in MGP in amongs the CRT's. They will definitely appreciate the consistency of the tyres compared to the crap they have to use now.

What would be great is if some publication could get one rider to take the Stock HP4, Superstock HP4, ZX10 SBK and Honda MGP bikes round the same track on the same day. The best in each class to see how they compare. Preferably a MGP rider so there is no defense that the rider just can't get the best out of the prototype.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 30, 2016, 02:30:31 pm
Just a note on the CRT bikes you mention.

They were MotoGP spec frames and paraphernalia with a 1000cc superbike derived engine.  They do not exist anymore.  The class was canned at the end of the 2014 season.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on November 30, 2016, 02:46:18 pm
Just a note on the CRT bikes you mention.

They were MotoGP spec frames and paraphernalia with a 1000cc superbike derived engine.  They do not exist anymore.  The class was canned at the end of the 2014 season.

Well spotted so let's call them non factory..
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on November 30, 2016, 02:57:19 pm
Just a note on the CRT bikes you mention.

They were MotoGP spec frames and paraphernalia with a 1000cc superbike derived engine.  They do not exist anymore.  The class was canned at the end of the 2014 season.

Well spotted so let's call them non factory..

I would suggest we call them by the same names that MGP currently use.  You get Factory Class and Open Class.  Open Class being non-factory, as aptly described by you.  The problem with the Open Class is that they are often pretty old bikes.  Some of the Ducatis we saw on the track this year were GP14 bikes!  In fact, as it stands, at least one rider will ride a GP14 next year. 

On the other side of the coin, we have the WSBK ZX10R Kawasakis which are only that in name.  They are as much a prototype as any MGP bike.  They only share a badge with the bike we can buy.

Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on November 30, 2016, 03:34:59 pm
Some views on MGP v SBK v SS (superstock) v Standard

Difference between MGP factory and SBK about 2 seconds (see Donovan's article).
Difference between MGP factory and SS about 10 seconds. Some tracks the SS bikes lapped faster than the MGP CRT bikes.
Difference between MGP factory and Standard 12 seconds.

That means a factory MGP team is spending R20 mil to gain 10 seconds and then we are not taking into account the riders. Raffaele De Rosa can probably not be compared to Marc Marquez. I would love to see what lap time MM or VR can do on a Superstock bike.

Of course we should not forget all the work Dorna has done to slow the bikes down in MGP (tyres and electronics). This means that MM or VR can probably take a stock S1000RR HP4 with Pirelli Supercorsa SCO's off the show room floor, and put it on the grid in MGP in amongs the CRT's. They will definitely appreciate the consistency of the tyres compared to the crap they have to use now.

What would be great is if some publication could get one rider to take the Stock HP4, Superstock HP4, ZX10 SBK and Honda MGP bikes round the same track on the same day. The best in each class to see how they compare. Preferably a MGP rider so there is no defense that the rider just can't get the best out of the prototype.

I remember when Max Biaggi first came to WSBK he complained bitterly about the steel brake discs; saying that he was finding it very hard to adapt and could not get the things to stop; so I would imagine if the MGP riders tested WSBKs back to back with MGP they would initially be slower than the WSBK riders.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Kawasefi on November 30, 2016, 06:50:26 pm

Best you improve your google research, Guintoli was never a MotoGP champion, or rider, came from BSB, Checca and Biaggi both did not have contracts re-newed and were not going down to Moto2.

Thanks for the google tip, you should try it sometime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvain_Guintoli

So you agree that old MotoGP riders (I never said champions) who couldn't even get a MotoGP ride anymore went on to become WSBK champions? Yet you fail to see the point I'm trying to make?
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Gryshond on December 01, 2016, 08:35:16 am

I would suggest we call them by the same names that MGP currently use.  You get Factory Class and Open Class. 


I would suggest if you want to keep correcting me you get your facts straight.

The Grand Prix Commission, composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Ignacio Verneda (FIM CEO), Herve Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA) in the presence of Javier Alonso (Dorna) and Mike Trimby (IRTA, Secretary of the meeting), in a meeting held on 10th of December 2015 in Madrid, made the following decisions:

Previous regulations made frequent reference to “Open” and “Factory” classes and machine types. All such references will now be removed.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Rough Rider on December 01, 2016, 10:03:44 am
The only real change I want to see is in the Moto2 class; I hate the fact that all the manufactures are forced to use Honda engines. I think the rules should be the same as MGP but with smaller engines. 
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: RobD on December 01, 2016, 10:09:33 am
The only real change I want to see is in the Moto2 class; I hate the fact that all the manufactures are forced to use Honda engines. I think the rules should be the same as MGP but with smaller engines.

The teams would not be able to afford to race then.... MotoGP is the big money spinnner.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on December 01, 2016, 10:20:07 am

I would suggest we call them by the same names that MGP currently use.  You get Factory Class and Open Class. 


I would suggest if you want to keep correcting me you get your facts straight.

The Grand Prix Commission, composed of Messrs. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna, Chairman), Ignacio Verneda (FIM CEO), Herve Poncharal (IRTA) and Takanao Tsubouchi (MSMA) in the presence of Javier Alonso (Dorna) and Mike Trimby (IRTA, Secretary of the meeting), in a meeting held on 10th of December 2015 in Madrid, made the following decisions:

Previous regulations made frequent reference to “Open” and “Factory” classes and machine types. All such references will now be removed.
Ahmen JC and thank you.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: TheBear on December 01, 2016, 08:31:18 pm

I would suggest we call them by the same names that MGP currently use.  You get Factory Class and Open Class. 


I would suggest if you want to keep correcting me you get your facts straight.



Indeed.  My bad.  My apologies.



Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: cocky on January 30, 2017, 12:09:58 pm
First testing has started and already rumours that CS27 will be racing for Ducati in more than one or two races this year.
Title: Re: MotoGP 2016.
Post by: Snafu on January 30, 2017, 12:20:48 pm
2017 http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=205277.0;topicseen