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Title: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on December 25, 2015, 06:27:09 am
2016 Amageza Rallye

We were able to restructure the race to facilitate a lower entry fee but still keep close to the original race distance for 2016.

In brief:

The race will start on Sunday 6 November 2016, and complete on Friday 11 November 2016. This should help with the leave from work we all need to take. So one could travel to Upington on the Saturday, and travel back the next Saturday, leaving one the Sunday to recover a bit before work on Monday!

We will only race in the Northern Cape Province of South Africa.

Assistance Crews will travel Upington to Kakamas, to Springbok and back to Upington. Simple, and easy. Crews should not have to travel more than 800km during the race. Unless off-course you manage to get yourself lost so badly that you end up in Sutherland!

Cost without loyalty discount:
Motorbike (all): R28,950.00

Note:
Competitors who paid more than this will be refunded by means of a voucher they may use on another product or service. No cash refunds unfortunately.
Competitors who paid less need not worry. They were on a Early Bird Special. So all good.

New regs are on the website http://www.amageza.com/#!amageza-rallye/mzumb (http://www.amageza.com/#!amageza-rallye/mzumb).

Guys, if you are not physically able to do the race on a bike, you are welcome to come on a Side x Side. This way you can have a navigator who can share some of the costs and off-course help with the navigation! Just a idea. We won't stay young forever!  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on December 25, 2015, 08:12:03 am
Thanks Alex for the nice Xmas present !
You have a good rest, baie werk volgende jaar, sterkte !
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 01, 2016, 10:39:28 am
Thanks Alex for the nice Xmas present !
You have a good rest, baie werk volgende jaar, sterkte !

+1 :thumleft:

Namibia sounds FANTASTIC!! :ricky:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on January 03, 2016, 07:50:05 pm
Just wondering, is the terrain comparable to Richterveld? Or can we expect sand in Nambia?
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on January 03, 2016, 08:23:26 pm
Namibia is known to be rather sandy.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Koos van den Heever on January 04, 2016, 04:15:27 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on January 04, 2016, 07:56:50 pm
I wonder if someone will enter with a 125 2troke ?
Much cheaper to start with. Less effort to race fast with, I would say. ( Big dunes could be a challenge ) 
The Husky 125 2stoke #111 at the Dakar is hanging in there in the middle of the bike fleet.
It is still early days. Will be interesting to follow as well.
Let it be a lesson to us all, size does not always count, but/however. . . . .
Will we see a 125 2stoke at the Amageza 2016 ? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Bill the Bong on January 04, 2016, 09:42:12 pm
Size counts, big time.  He is getting a shed load full of exposure because of his bike.  That was the point.  Carrying 27l of fuel on a 125 isn't going to be fun.  I had access to Suzuki TF125.  I thought of using it, but it would not accelerate up an incline with me on it.  So much for that idea.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: boland on January 04, 2016, 09:45:17 pm
A 300 2-stroke might be much more interesting if you can sort out the fuel range. They should give the 450s a good go!
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Bill the Bong on January 05, 2016, 08:26:27 am
I'm not so sure (I have one).  The advantage of a 300 above the 4T bikes is lack of weight.  My 300 gives maybe 10 km/l, thus for 330 km range it needs 33 litres.  That will make it decidedly un-funny.  Also, it may be possible to roadworthy one in Upington, I'm not so sure that will fly in a more civilised city.

For the Amageza Baja: absolutely, it will be awesome in the Lite class.  I did the Botswana 1000 on mine last year and I think that the Baja might be similar in nature.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on January 05, 2016, 09:56:00 am
I'll start catching up on extra sleep so long... going to be EPIC!

Can't wait!

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on January 05, 2016, 01:53:05 pm
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on January 05, 2016, 03:04:08 pm
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??



Well done! 

With regard to your earlier question. Southern Namibia has a lot of sand, a lot of hard-pack and a lot of rock. It's a harsh, desert environment very much like the stretch from Pofadder to Springbok. Fantastic riding conditions. I've worked in Namibia for a couple of years in the 70s, including about 6 months in the area south of Warmbad. Can't wait to go back - there's some nasty roads I look forward to seeing again.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on January 05, 2016, 03:05:05 pm
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??



Well done! 

With regard to your earlier question. Southern Namibia has a lot of sand, a lot of hard-pack and a lot of rock. It's a harsh, desert environment very much like the stretch from Pofadder to Springbok. Fantastic riding conditions. I've worked in Namibia for a couple of years in the 70s, including about 6 months in the area south of Warmbad. Can't wait to go back - there's some nasty roads I look forward to seeing again.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on January 05, 2016, 03:25:05 pm
I'll start catching up on extra sleep so long... going to be EPIC!

Can't wait!

 :imaposer:
Beter beef up my German ! Ja ?
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on January 05, 2016, 03:28:40 pm
I'll start catching up on extra sleep so long... going to be EPIC!

Can't wait!

 :imaposer:
Beter beef up my German ! Ja ?

Only the swearwords.  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on January 05, 2016, 03:32:20 pm
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??



Well done! 

With regard to your earlier question. Southern Namibia has a lot of sand, a lot of hard-pack and a lot of rock. It's a harsh, desert environment very much like the stretch from Pofadder to Springbok. Fantastic riding conditions. I've worked in Namibia for a couple of years in the 70s, including about 6 months in the area south of Warmbad. Can't wait to go back - there's some nasty roads I look forward to seeing again.

Cool, so definitely mixed terrain then with some elevation too? Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Bill the Bong on January 05, 2016, 06:42:16 pm
No, almost no elevation changes in the Southern portion other than the Fish River Canyon except for the portion directly adjacent to the Orange River until you reach the western dune belt. Wow, long sentence with 3 qualifiers...
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on January 16, 2016, 09:44:23 am
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??


Dutchie - who else are you brining with? Lol
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on January 17, 2016, 12:34:33 pm
I wonder if someone will enter with a 125 2troke ?
Much cheaper to start with. Less effort to race fast with, I would say. ( Big dunes could be a challenge ) 
The Husky 125 2stoke #111 at the Dakar is hanging in there in the middle of the bike fleet.
It is still early days. Will be interesting to follow as well.
Let it be a lesson to us all, size does not always count, but/however. . . . .
Will we see a 125 2stoke at the Amageza 2016 ? Only time will tell.
Yip , as predicted , Sylvian #111 did finish the Dakar in style on his Husky 125 TE Rally.
Guys and girls , a 125 can do it , can YOU do a AMAGEZA on one , yes you can !
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Bill the Bong on January 17, 2016, 05:19:43 pm
Please, be my guest
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on January 17, 2016, 09:32:49 pm
Monies sent!

Piggybank is empty now  :snorting:

Who else has signed up??


Dutchie - who else are you brining with? Lol

a schezophrenic is never alone  :imaposer:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on March 11, 2016, 01:07:04 pm
From Amageza:

Good morning

Amageza Racing is proud to announce its participation in the 2016 Dakar Challenge.

After already being invited to join the Dakar Challenge in 2015 by A.S.O, we have eventually been able meet the requirements to host this prestigious category during the 2016 Amageza Rallye. The contract has been signed, sealed and is on its way to Paris, France.

What this means is that if you compete in the Dakar Challenge Category during the 2016 Amageza Rallye, and win it, you will get a free Malle Moto entry to the 2018 Dakar. Yes, you read correctly, 2018, not 2017 as it is normally. This means that in stead of months to plan like in the past with regards to the Dakar Challenge, you now have more than a year.

To celebrate this achievement we will be opening the 2016 Amageza Rallye entries during the course of today with a EPIC OPENING SPECIAL of ZAR 23,478.27. On 1 April 2016 the price will go up to ZAR 34,334.82. You can save ZAR 10,856.55 if you order and pay before 1 April 2016. So jump while you have the chance. Please purchase the Dakar Challenge item for ZAR 1 if you are serious about doing the 2018 Dakar Rally.

You may download the A.S.O Document here regarding the 2016 Amageza Rallye - 2016 Dakar Challenge.

I have a meeting scheduled with the Namibian Consul General in a fortnight to expand our planned routes in Namibia. We are already in a advanced planning stage with the juiciest bits in Botswana, and will keep negotiating with the Northern Cape Province of South Africa to include the best of the Extreme Province.

This is what all of us have been working for. Although only one of you can win the free entry to the 2018 Dakar Rally, all of you have made this possible. From a bunch of guys starting the first Amageza Rallye from a filling station on the West Coast with me racing behind on my bike with a medic-kit on the back, and sat-phone strapped to the handle-bar. To recognition by A.S.O by offering us the Dakar Challenge, we truly have made the impossible dream, a possibility.

A great big thanks to the sponsors who have helped to keep the costs manageable. Special thanks to KTM Cape Town and Sat4Rent that has continually supported us.

From me, a thanks to the competitors and supporters that would not allow me to tap out when it seemed I was in a choke-hold. Each criticism made me try harder, each kind word and a tap on the shoulder made me keep my chin up.

For those of you doing the West Coast Baja next weekend, I'll see you in Port Nolloth for most likely the race on the most epic terrain you have ever done! (Except Kobus Potgieter. We tried, but could not find a mountain higher than the Andes in the Northern Cape)

If you have any questions, please drop us a email at entry at amageza.com.

All the best,
Alexander
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on March 11, 2016, 01:29:33 pm
The discount is significant incentive to enter early.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on March 11, 2016, 02:33:23 pm
Well well , free entry to the Dakar 2018 for the Dakar Challenge winner,  this is indeed  great news.
Well done Alexander for putting that together as well.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on March 11, 2016, 03:03:21 pm
Great news about the Dakar Challenge! Having an extra year to prepare and fund-raise will be a huge plus! Well done Amageza.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on March 11, 2016, 04:41:03 pm
 :pot: :pot:
Time to start prepping.. and who knows... Dakar time maybe
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on March 11, 2016, 05:45:05 pm
:pot: :pot:
Time to start prepping.. and who knows... Dakar time maybe

But instead of "Support Gerrit" try "Zu ma se ..". You'll sell enough t-shirts to take the whole family to South America with you.
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Rolling Stone on March 11, 2016, 05:49:35 pm
Nou Ja

For now I will just be hangin in hear like a fly on the wall. :peepwall:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on March 11, 2016, 06:40:01 pm
This is really cool  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on March 11, 2016, 11:42:29 pm
Whew, that is ground-breaking stuff, the Dakar entry, well done Alex and Team!  :thumleft:
Chris
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Grolls on March 27, 2016, 04:24:03 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: markdiver on March 29, 2016, 04:10:28 pm
So that's it, ENTRY PAID and apparently committed.   :thumleft: Cannot miss another one, so work will just have to take a flying go and get lost!!!   Now to get fit, ride some callouses into my arse, prep bike and speak to the missus nicely, roses should do it  :peepwall:.   See you at the start line boys. 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on March 29, 2016, 04:13:51 pm
So that's it, ENTRY PAID and apparently committed.   :thumleft: Cannot miss another one, so work will just have to take a flying go and get lost!!!   Now to get fit, ride some callouses into my arse, prep bike and speak to the missus nicely, roses should do it  :peepwall:.   See you at the start line boys. 

NIce!!! :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

still waiting for someone to buy my kidney  >:D

But will see you there!!  :ricky:
Title: Re: 2016 Amageza Rallye: OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on March 29, 2016, 04:14:35 pm
:pot: :pot:
Time to start prepping.. and who knows... Dakar time maybe

But instead of "Support Gerrit" try "Zu ma se ..". You'll sell enough t-shirts to take the whole family to South America with you.

Hahahaha yes - that will work like a bomb!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Ross Riddle on March 29, 2016, 06:57:12 pm
Me to, paid and confirmed!
Now to get the bike prep all done and some hrs in the saddle.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on March 29, 2016, 09:07:56 pm
I too have just paid in full and completed the entry form. No turning back now.
Now all I need to do it build my bike up from the many parts and boxes around the house and get fitter.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 30, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

Really looking forward to it, to meeting old friends and making new enemies ;D

Only one day left before the price goes up.... :deal:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tau on March 30, 2016, 09:35:16 pm
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: SteveD on March 30, 2016, 09:40:00 pm
I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

That, sir, is AWESOME!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on March 31, 2016, 07:57:16 am
I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

Really looking forward to it, to meeting old friends and making new enemies ;D

Only one day left before the price goes up.... :deal:

Great Stuff! Are you bringing the old beloved Springbok? lol
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on March 31, 2016, 08:51:52 am
I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

Really looking forward to it, to meeting old friends and making new enemies ;D

Only one day left before the price goes up.... :deal:

Great Stuff! Are you bringing the old beloved Springbok? lol
Lekker BB , will be good to see you racing again !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 31, 2016, 08:55:42 am
I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

Really looking forward to it, to meeting old friends and making new enemies ;D

Only one day left before the price goes up.... :deal:

Great Stuff! Are you bringing the old beloved Springbok? lol

Thanks everyone! :thumleft:

Eish that Springbokkie. I'm keen to but I don't know if it still has any fight left after years of being left all alone. Will have to give it a test run and see how she goes. Or maybe I should just ask someone nicely if they have a spare 450RR lying around somewhere.... :deal: ;D

One thing for sure: This time the plan is to actually do some preparation and a spot of training.  :P
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on March 31, 2016, 09:15:32 am
I have a question...

With this being the qualifying criteria:

Quote
Completion of any of the below will be sufficient:
2015 Amageza Rallye
A minimum of three consecutive stages completed.
2015 Roof of Africa: Gold Class.
2016 West Coast Baja: Rally or Lite class.
Any International Sanctioned Cross-Country Rally of 3 stages or more after June 2015.

What other event in South Africa (except Roof Gold Class) will enable a new rider to enter Amageza?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tour on March 31, 2016, 09:43:51 am
PD !!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: weskus on March 31, 2016, 10:10:29 am
PD !!!
Jou bliksem..
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on March 31, 2016, 10:10:52 am

Thanks everyone! :thumleft:

Eish that Springbokkie. I'm keen to but I don't know if it still has any fight left after years of being left all alone. Will have to give it a test run and see how she goes. Or maybe I should just ask someone nicely if they have a spare 450RR lying around somewhere.... :deal: ;D

One thing for sure: This time the plan is to actually do some preparation and a spot of training.  :P
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You Better do some training..... I'm not recovering you again.... Ha ha ha ha ha.... Strongs!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 31, 2016, 10:24:24 am
Quote
You Better do some training..... I'm not recovering you again.... Ha ha ha ha ha.... Strongs!

Hey - that was a mechanical :P

I have a question...

With this being the qualifying criteria:

Quote
Completion of any of the below will be sufficient:
2015 Amageza Rallye
A minimum of three consecutive stages completed.
2015 Roof of Africa: Gold Class.
2016 West Coast Baja: Rally or Lite class.
Any International Sanctioned Cross-Country Rally of 3 stages or more after June 2015.

What other event in South Africa (except Roof Gold Class) will enable a new rider to enter Amageza?

Although the guidelines are rather strict, Alexander has always been accommodating to riders who have the skill and experience to enter.

They want to discourage the weekend warrior thinking this might just be a tough outride.

At the end of the day its up to the individual to convince Alexander of his ability to finish / not become a major liability to the rally. I for one will be taking training very seriously this year because I think this next Amageza is going to be tougher than last year, and last year by all accounts was brutal.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on March 31, 2016, 11:04:09 am
 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on March 31, 2016, 11:47:41 am
Amageza 2016 will be a serious one , BB.
One thing that is going to important to all , all vehicles partaking  will have to road legal for ZA , Nam , etc. ? (SADEC countries legal ?)
It will have to be totally road legal eg. working hooters ( not excuses for hooters), indicators, legal number plates will again be an issue for it could happen that non-legal plates could be an issue with the eg. road cops in eg. Nam, etc. We will see what the regs will require.
Lets hope it will be addressed with no misunderstanding to all.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on March 31, 2016, 11:58:29 am
PD !!!

 :pot: :pot:

Done! Paid  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Amageza # 6 here we come - Male Motto all the way!!  O0

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on March 31, 2016, 12:01:12 pm
PD !!!

 :pot: :pot:

Done! Paid  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Amageza # 6 here we come - Male Motto all the way!!  O0



Mooi storie  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on March 31, 2016, 12:06:34 pm
I have a question...

With this being the qualifying criteria:

Quote
Completion of any of the below will be sufficient:
2015 Amageza Rallye
A minimum of three consecutive stages completed.
2015 Roof of Africa: Gold Class.
2016 West Coast Baja: Rally or Lite class.
Any International Sanctioned Cross-Country Rally of 3 stages or more after June 2015.

What other event in South Africa (except Roof Gold Class) will enable a new rider to enter Amageza?


Ja kom !!! Ek is seker da sal nog n qualifier wees? maybe July ?

Die Amageza kort n Geel Kat !!!  :pot:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on March 31, 2016, 12:21:23 pm
I have a question...

With this being the qualifying criteria:

Quote
Completion of any of the below will be sufficient:
2015 Amageza Rallye
A minimum of three consecutive stages completed.
2015 Roof of Africa: Gold Class.
2016 West Coast Baja: Rally or Lite class.
Any International Sanctioned Cross-Country Rally of 3 stages or more after June 2015.

What other event in South Africa (except Roof Gold Class) will enable a new rider to enter Amageza?


Ja kom !!! Ek is seker da sal nog n qualifier wees? maybe July ?

Die Amageza kort n Geel Kat !!!  :pot:

 :imaposer: nee ek het nie eintlik vir myself gevra nie, sal nie die jaar kan maak nie kan nie soveel geld nou commit en maar net hoop vir die beste nie, so sal weer volgende jaar probeer as alles goed gaan.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: AlexRG on March 31, 2016, 12:23:57 pm
Also paid... a R10k saving is a lot!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 31, 2016, 12:35:28 pm
Does anyone know how many entries we have so far? :)


Check this out from www.dakar.com (http://www.dakar.com)

2016-03-16


DAKAR CHALLENGE: YOUTH TO TAKE CENTER STAGE


Before knowing what the route of the 2017 Dakar will be, two dates are already confirmed on the Dakar Challenge calendar. On the Sonora Rally in Mexico, then on the Merzouga Rally in Morocco, the most promising riders in rally-raid will compete to win their entry for next year's edition of the Dakar. In South Africa, the victor of the Dakar Challenge in the Amageza Rally will win entry for the 2018 Dakar.

Sonora Rally: 3-7 April 2016

The venue demands respect. Simply said, at 320,000km², Sonora is the largest expanse of desert in North America, slightly more than the surface area of Italy! The first edition of the rally, from 3-7 April, 2016, will see the riders and teams take on an array of different terrains over four stages with priority given to off-track sectors. Buoyed by rally-raid regulars like Darren Skilton and Scott Whitney, the Sonora Rally takes and even extends the principles of the Cortez Rally, won in 2015 by Quinn Cody (9th on the 2011 Dakar). Most importantly, it emphasizes discovery and perfecting navigation: only a road-book and the most basic GPS will be permitted for the riders to find their way. And a “Malles Moto” (“bike trunk”) system will be implemented for those who want to ride without assistance. Under these conditions, the selection for the Dakar Challenge will without a doubt reveal which riders are capable to take on the ultimate test.
Information and registration: www.sonorarally.com (http://www.sonorarally.com)

Merzouga Rally: 21-27 May 2016
For a long time the name has rung like the call to an adventure, and the event is already a reference in the rally-raid world. The list of past winners of the Merzouga Rally includes Helder Rodrigues, Sam Sunderland and Alessandro Botturi. And for edition 7, Marc Coma will be the Sporting Director of the Moroccan round of the Dakar Series. The Spaniard actually wants to create a learning lab with the Merzouga. Over six days of competition, the riders, most of whom come from enduro or motocross will face the difficulties and charms of the discipline: scaling dunes, the reading and interpretation of a road-book, managing the length of the stages, etc… With a field including Dakar veterans and up and coming riders attracted by new terrains, the formula will allow for converting the young talents.
Information and registration: www.merzougarally.com (http://www.merzougarally.com)

Amageza Rally: November 5 - 12 2016

South Africa is one of the nations with a strong link to the Dakar… and not just since the victory of Giniel De Villiers in 2009. Alfie Cox, for example, had already been among the front-runners in the motorcycle category in the years after the millennium, while veteran observers will remember the voyage that took the rally all the way to Cape Town in 1992. It is perhaps in this memory that the South African rally-raid community draws on in its intense activity and interest for the Dakar. A generation is already beginning to settle in the car category, with Leeroy Poulter (5th on the Dakar in 2016) and Mark Corbett (18th), and in the quad category, Brian Baragwanath (3rd). And the Amageza Rally sets up as the ideal terrain for South African, Namibian and Angolan riders and drivers, who are adding to the ranks of the representatives of the region in the future, to show their stuff. The seven days of scheduled competition offers a range of terrains similar to those found on the Dakar in South America: dunes, rocky tracks, river crossings, etc. As for navigation, their abilities will be particularly tested in the bush. Given the positioning of the Amageza on the calendar, the winner of the Dakar Challenge will win his entry for the 2018 edition of the Dakar.
Information and registration: www.amageza.com/# (http://www.amageza.com/#)!amageza-rallye/mzumb


Congratulations everyone. The Amageza is now officially on the international rally map! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on March 31, 2016, 12:43:50 pm
So that's it, ENTRY PAID and apparently committed. 

I'm in - Just paid my entry as well. :ricky:

:hello2:

Fantastic. Amped for you guys!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on March 31, 2016, 02:54:28 pm
I have not seen any posts of Amageza 2016 on advrider.com racing section or else where ?
I,m not good at  running such things, who will take it on ?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Cracker on March 31, 2016, 03:58:11 pm
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You Better do some training..... I'm not recovering you again.... Ha ha ha ha ha.... Strongs!

Hey - that was a mechanical :P

I have a question...

With this being the qualifying criteria:

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Completion of any of the below will be sufficient:
2015 Amageza Rallye
A minimum of three consecutive stages completed.
2015 Roof of Africa: Gold Class.
2016 West Coast Baja: Rally or Lite class.
Any International Sanctioned Cross-Country Rally of 3 stages or more after June 2015.

What other event in South Africa (except Roof Gold Class) will enable a new rider to enter Amageza?

Although the guidelines are rather strict, Alexander has always been accommodating to riders who have the skill and experience to enter.

They want to discourage the weekend warrior thinking this might just be a tough outride.

At the end of the day its up to the individual to convince Alexander of his ability to finish / not become a major liability to the rally. I for one will be taking training very seriously this year because I think this next Amageza is going to be tougher than last year, and last year by all accounts was brutal.

Best you check with him - I've already been informed that I can't enter  :(
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on March 31, 2016, 04:02:23 pm
Best you check with him - I've already been informed that I can't enter  :(

Wait..whaaat? ??? Did you speak to him? Nee man, surely there must be a mistake? Maybe he thinks you're someone else? Or maybe you wanted to ride that green zebra of yours again ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Cracker on March 31, 2016, 04:10:22 pm
we communicated via e-mail - he knows who I am.

Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

A big ask, but I'd like to do a Roof before I hang up my boots  :thumleft:

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on April 01, 2016, 08:08:31 am
Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

That's a bit rough.... you have a lot of riding and racing experience, including a 2014 Ama finish?

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on April 01, 2016, 08:15:35 am
So wait, let me understand this....

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WHAT?

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Here we have a relatively young rallye event (that ideally wants as many entries as possible???), already becoming exclusive? What about the supposed old time "spirit of the Dakar", where people attempted the impossible with crazy ideas and dreams. Two strokes, Vespa's etc. Privateers on home built bikes doing Malle Moto.

If someone does not have what it takes they simply wont finish. Or if their bike is completely unsuited they wont either. That is up to them, don't take the decision for them.

I hope I'm very wrong...








Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 01, 2016, 09:35:32 am
I'm also still stunned.

I might understand if it was an unknown newbie, but in this case we are talking about a serious hard man who has demonstrated the goods.

EDIT:

I understand much better now. Being typically bloubul stubborn  ::) , I had to ask someone on the organizing team of the Amageza. This was the response I got (always good to hear both sides of any story):

We allow many riders who don't necessarily qualify, based on their CV and training regimen (including you! You better TRAIN. lol).

I don't know his real name either but he can surely send a email stating why he should be allowed to enter and we'll most likely allow him.

The duck-walkers must PLEASE STAY HOME this year! 2016 will be tough, Dakar-tough.

No way a Dakar Challenge winner from Amageza is not completing the 2018 Dakar!!  
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 01, 2016, 12:48:50 pm
Eish. This year is going to be moerse hard....

 :amazon: 

:komet::whip2:

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on April 01, 2016, 03:23:33 pm
I think so as well BB ! Taai -Tough ! 2016 AMAGEZA
This coming week , also the Dakar Challenge, free entry to Dakar for the Malle Moto winner, is the Sonora Rally. (Like Amageza 2016)
Have to follow that somehow. BB you have already mentioned it. Thanks for that post, would have misted it.
I see on their REGS that they may only use DOT approved rear tyres on the bikes.   
 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 01, 2016, 03:40:35 pm
Ja, the DOT tyres a bit of an FIM lark. Most good tyres are DOT approved.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on April 01, 2016, 04:28:59 pm
Some tyres are "off-road use only" which means in SA if you are going to do any public roads the bike will strictly nor be road legal with these.

Any decent tyres suitable for an event like this will probably be road legal.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on April 01, 2016, 04:50:25 pm
Ja, the DOT tyres a bit of an FIM lark. Most good tyres are DOT approved.
Agree !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Grolls on April 01, 2016, 07:09:13 pm
K - I am in  :thumleft: :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: T9ER on April 01, 2016, 08:23:41 pm
Paid and entered. Malle Moto all the way. I'll sleep when I'm dead.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: T9ER on April 01, 2016, 09:13:08 pm
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders. Sometimes the same guy multiple times. This is why he has entry requirements so he logistically can handle the recoveries. At the same time he has vision and wants to grow this thing and have as many entries as possible. Don't be too quick to give up on an entry position. If you don't meet the requirements now November is a long way off. Prove you can hack it. Maybe the desert race or a few National off roads would do the trick. Maybe a 24 hour 1000km ride through Lesotho with a couple mates. Think Wessel Bosman and his ride to Eygpt to get a Dakar place. Think outside the box, maybe tell him your plan and see if he makes a deal with you for a starting spot if you accomplish what you set out to do. Give him a reason to think "Damn I need this oke in my race".  If it was easy everyone would do it. Maybe him telling you "No, your not good enough" is just what you need to find your motivation. Make him eat those words.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 01, 2016, 09:56:06 pm
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Rolling Stone on April 01, 2016, 10:28:40 pm
we communicated via e-mail - he knows who I am.

Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

A big ask, but I'd like to do a Roof before I hang up my boots  :thumleft:


its cos you are a duckwalking old toppie and had to be towed by a 250 in 2014.
and you finished it on a KLR , not good for Amageze reputation :biggrin: :pot:
roof sounds like a nice challenge
Title: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlomC on April 02, 2016, 12:26:48 am
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 02, 2016, 01:06:23 am
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!

Its hard work and having been swept myself, its hard work, very long hours and a lot of driving in very rough terrain that WILL damage your vehicle, you might need to do some training yourself just for this! Its fun in a masochistic kind of way or if you are crazy. And it will be an adventure in its own right, picking up the pieces of broken dreams, broken bikes and maybe some broken riders too. Just ask Geel Kat. If you are still keen, I would suggest reaching out to him directly.  director@amageza.com  :deal:
Title: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Rolling Stone on April 02, 2016, 05:18:51 am
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!
This is almost harder than Amageza itself
Definitely less sleep.
Make sure it is an old 4x4 and a tough one at that
If you can do this job, you would have earned that Tshirt and can wear it proudly.
Alex needs people that can assist in this regard.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on April 02, 2016, 07:58:04 am
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?

Last year recoveries were made much more trouble by two recovery teams abandoning their job on the first day! The distances involved now meant that our ad hoc recovery teams were often a day behind the race. Added to this many riders were so slow that they were getting into bivvy maybe 12 hours or more after the first rider. This put a huge strain on the very small organisation to have to divert crew to other jobs as well and having to cope with 20 to 22 hour days. We really don't want people racing in the night - the risks (one dead kudu - one lucky rider last year) are insane.

So naturally Alex would prefer racers to survivors.

So, Dan, why don't you come and help? A Leatt brace is only necessary if you stick your neck out too much.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on April 02, 2016, 08:06:06 am
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?

Exactly.

If you want the race to be tough and you want a 40% finish rate, you will recover riders.

If you want the race to be safe get 20 racing gods on factory bikes. Then everyone will be in the bivvy by 2pm.
Title: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on April 02, 2016, 08:52:33 am
Edit, seems my post was offensive, herewith my apology.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: White Rhino on April 02, 2016, 09:18:25 am
Ok, I'm also in. The Baja was so cool. :blob7: :blob5: :blob3:

I was rescued by Lofty and Andy660. Lofty's one solid meneer. Huge praise to those guys they are soldiers.   :hello2: :headbang:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on April 02, 2016, 09:51:39 am
Ok, I'm also in. The Baja was so cool. :blob7: :blob5: :blob3:

I was rescued by Lofty and Andy660. Lofty's one solid meneer. Huge praise to those guys they are soldiers.   :hello2: :headbang:

Lofty is my brother and he scares me with his 4x4 skills... :pot:.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

i'm 100% behind Geel Kat's comment.

to be a sweeper/rescue vehicle is no joke... it is harder than racing the Amageza. Ask everyone that has been recovered in the past ...  :deal:

so i would suggest that if you want to comment on the recoveries come try it yourself and then give a comment on how to improve it.  :thumleft: :thumleft:




Title: Re: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlomC on April 02, 2016, 10:09:49 am
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!

If you:

- Have a 4x4 you are not afraid to scratch or damage (i.e. you actually use it as a REAL 4x4)
- Can drive offroad without much of a struggle
- Know how to navigate using GPS and at times also a road book
- Can go for 48 hour stretches without sleep
- Prepared to be up first, eat last if at all and effectively miss the entire Amageza race because you are never in bivouac to catch up
- Can remain calm and friendly throughout this

Then please, please, please contact Alexander and volunteer for Amageza sweep and recovery, it is a HUGE amount of fun  :thumleft:


Sounds like an extreme challenge, but I won't even try to comment any further...

I'll contact Alex ;)  thanks Geel kat
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 02, 2016, 10:51:14 am
BlomC! :thumleft: :hello2::hello2:


But remember if you pull out during the race for any other reason than a mechanical the riders will mercilessly hunt you down after the rally...  >:D  :deal:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: White Rhino on April 02, 2016, 11:23:39 am
Ok, I'm also in. The Baja was so cool. :blob7: :blob5: :blob3:

I was rescued by Lofty and Andy660. Lofty's one solid meneer. Huge praise to those guys they are soldiers.   :hello2: :headbang:

Lofty is my brother and he scares me with his 4x4 skills... :pot:.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

i'm 100% behind Geel Kat's comment.

to be a sweeper/rescue vehicle is no joke... it is harder than racing the Amageza. Ask everyone that has been recovered in the past ...  :deal:

My money was safe

so i would suggest that if you want to comment on the recoveries come try it yourself and then give a comment on how to improve it.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

Absolutely  :thumleft:

Alex told Lofty that even he would have a problem extracting the rider in the ravine! That was all that he needed ... a challenge!! He couldn't wait to get him out. My money was was on Lofty 100%  :lol8:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on April 02, 2016, 11:48:55 am
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!

If you:

- Have a 4x4 you are not afraid to scratch or damage (i.e. you actually use it as a REAL 4x4)
- Can drive offroad without much of a struggle
- Know how to navigate using GPS and at times also a road book
- Can go for 48 hour stretches without sleep
- Prepared to be up first, eat last if at all and effectively miss the entire Amageza race because you are never in bivouac to catch up
- Can remain calm and friendly throughout this

Then please, please, please contact Alexander and volunteer for Amageza sweep and recovery, it is a HUGE amount of fun  :thumleft:


Sounds like an extreme challenge, but I won't even try to comment any further...

I'll contact Alex ;)  thanks Geel kat

Apologies if you feel offended by my post, that was not what I intended.

By all means contact Alexander, I am sure he will welcome any assistance  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on April 03, 2016, 09:59:26 am
Ok, I'm also in. The Baja was so cool. :blob7: :blob5: :blob3:

I was rescued by Lofty and Andy660. Lofty's one solid meneer. Huge praise to those guys they are soldiers.   :hello2: :headbang:

Lofty is my brother and he scares me with his 4x4 skills... :pot:.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

i'm 100% behind Geel Kat's comment.


to be a sweeper/rescue vehicle is no joke... it is harder than racing the Amageza. Ask everyone that has been recovered in the past ...  :deal:

My money was safe

so i would suggest that if you want to comment on the recoveries come try it yourself and then give a comment on how to improve it.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

Absolutely  :thumleft:

Alex told Lofty that even he would have a problem extracting the rider in the ravine! That was all that he needed ... a challenge!! He couldn't wait to get him out. My money was was on Lofty 100%  :lol8:
Their extraction/recovery took 6 hours ! from the time they left DSP back to Port Nolloth with very little fuel left in Lofty,s modified Jeep.

Mooi so Lofty , jy's 'n kampioen ! Andy het na die tyd vir my gese dat dit was ongelooflik en nie kon glo dat Lofty dit deurgehaak het nie.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: SteveD on April 03, 2016, 10:55:01 am
But remember if you pull out during the race for any other reason than a mechanical rigor mortis the riders will mercilessly hunt you down after the rally...

Fixed
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Cracker on April 03, 2016, 06:18:43 pm
we communicated via e-mail - he knows who I am.

Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

A big ask, but I'd like to do a Roof before I hang up my boots  :thumleft:


its cos you are a duckwalking old toppie and had to be towed by a 250 in 2014.
and you finished it on a KLR , not good for Amageze reputation :biggrin: :pot:
roof sounds like a nice challenge


You, clever dick, will be shot !! However, they may be a smidgen of truth in what you say ...............

Spent this weekend 'paddling' around Clarens doing the Madalas thing. To prove my superior navigational skills I 'left' my GPS in the hotel room and told those who weren't listening anyway, that winging it is the way to go. After daydreaming at riders briefing, looking at the local talent, we took off and it wasn't long before I got lost. In my dread of being left alone in the wilderness, with only men in blankets for company, I hastily followed someone who looked like he knew exactly what he was doing. THAT was a beeeeg mistake, turned out he knew exactly what he was doing and I ended up on the extreme route, made for those training for the Roof. Climbing a mountain, dragging a f^&*(%$##g motorbike with you is NOT fun - I would have killed for a tow, Mr. LoopSoosStroop.

The Roof WILL be a challenge - Rolling Stone - nice it WILL NOT be!!

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlomC on April 03, 2016, 11:26:56 pm
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!

If you:

- Have a 4x4 you are not afraid to scratch or damage (i.e. you actually use it as a REAL 4x4)
- Can drive offroad without much of a struggle
- Know how to navigate using GPS and at times also a road book
- Can go for 48 hour stretches without sleep
- Prepared to be up first, eat last if at all and effectively miss the entire Amageza race because you are never in bivouac to catch up
- Can remain calm and friendly throughout this

Then please, please, please contact Alexander and volunteer for Amageza sweep and recovery, it is a HUGE amount of fun  :thumleft:


Sounds like an extreme challenge, but I won't even try to comment any further...

I'll contact Alex ;)  thanks Geel kat

Apologies if you feel offended by my post, that was not what I intended.

By all means contact Alexander, I am sure he will welcome any assistance  :thumleft:
No no, not offended at all. I can understand that it can be a bEEg challenge...bikes goes where vehicles struggle so I can imagine. (and then there is a trailer involved) Obviously no-one wants to damage their vehicle intentionally, but I do use my 4x4 for one of its intended purposes and I am up for a challenge :)

I just meant I'm not going to comment any further and rather contact and discuss the idea with Alex, then I can make an informed decision ;)

Or is there someone who has done this previously who lives in Pretoria who I can meet up with and discuss?
Title: Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on April 04, 2016, 12:29:10 am
Edit, seems my post was offensive, herewith my apology.

Kobus, jy kan dit maar terugsit, daar is hopeloos te veel sensetiwietyd (en uitlokkers) in die Amageza/Baja freads.  Dit is 'n k@k harde ondakbare sport met nog k@kker en ondakbarder deelnemers.   Somige maak stellings sonder inligting/ondervinding, vir hulle moet ons maar soos die juffrou op skool net reghelp.  Miskien, eendag is hulle braaf genoeg om hand by te sit - en dan "uit ondervinding" te praat.

Ag, dis partykeer lekker om stoom af te blaas.

Die foto is toe ek so moeg was op dag 4 dat ek net daar op die stoel aan die slaap geraak het na ons die vorige nag 3:30 ingekom het omdat die fulstasie nie brandstof gehad het.  Die backup moes vir ons brandstof bring (ek dink ons was so 6 fietse??) en toe nog verder terug vir ander fietse ook neem.  Hulle moes heelwat later as ons by die kamp aangekom het.

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Scrat on April 04, 2016, 07:40:26 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Hahah Oom Adie.
Jy is n yster! Groot respek  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Ons het nog saam gery daai oggend ure oppad Ghanzi toe na ons geen fuel in daai dorp kon kry nie.... damm donkies en beeste was niks teen daai koue nie!!

ek ry enige tyd weer saam Oom!  :ricky: :ricky:

SO November is dit dan?



Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on April 04, 2016, 10:30:13 am
and you finished it on a KLR , not good for Amageze reputation :biggrin: :pot:

Eddie, I think you are closer to the truth than you think...

Wonder what would have happened if uncle Rob tried to enter on some 450 Rally bike?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 04, 2016, 11:04:09 am
LSS - Eddie just needs to motivate more strongly if he wants to get in. ;D

BTW are you going to be there?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on April 04, 2016, 11:37:51 am
BTW are you going to be there?

Unfortunately not. For the season I'm in now it's just not worth it.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Rolling Stone on April 04, 2016, 07:11:09 pm
LSS - Eddie just needs to motivate more strongly if he wants to get in. ;D

BTW are you going to be there?
Eddie is just too flipen poor to do Amageza this year
Or at least his wife thinks so :peepwall:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 04, 2016, 07:28:56 pm
:3some: I know that feeling bud!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on April 05, 2016, 10:00:10 am
:laughing4: :laughing4:

Hahah Oom Adie.
Jy is n yster! Groot respek  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Ons het nog saam gery daai oggend ure oppad Ghanzi toe na ons geen fuel in daai dorp kon kry nie.... damm donkies en beeste was niks teen daai koue nie!!

ek ry enige tyd weer saam Oom!  :ricky: :ricky:

SO November is dit dan?


Ek sou graag wou (en mag moontlik nog) maar daat het 'n paar ander projekte uitgedop - ook vir die Rally sport - waaraan ek baie graag wil aandag gee.  Of ek al my eende betyds in 'n ry kan kry is 'n ander storie.  Ek en Mike hou daarvan om onder ERGE druk te werk  :lol8:  Die eintlike issue vir my is die ouderdom, dit begin nou amper 'n 'nou of nooit' storie word.

Ek sal in elk geval daar wees as Mike se mechanic al ry ek nie.

Sien jou daar.

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on April 05, 2016, 11:51:28 am
Adie ! mooi !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: AlexRG on April 20, 2016, 01:51:56 pm
Will Alex Nel let us taste this in Namibia? Sperrgebiet dunes?

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 20, 2016, 05:00:50 pm
Will Alex Nel let us taste this in Namibia? Sperrgebiet dunes?



We are all holding thumbs AlexRG, but shhhh, you gonna jinx it!

He has to do everything above board, get the official permissions etc. - An administrative Everest in itself, and he still has to do the roadbook.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on April 22, 2016, 03:52:47 pm
Will Alex Nel let us taste this in Namibia? Sperrgebiet dunes?



We are all holding thumbs AlexRG, but shhhh, you gonna jinx it!

He has to do everything above board, get the official permissions etc. - An administrative Everest in itself, and he still has to do the roadbook.



It be fun to empty your boots after a days riding down and see if a diamond drops out  ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Cracker on April 22, 2016, 07:10:54 pm
Brings new meaning to 'A diamond in the Rough', doesn't it  ...................  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 22, 2016, 09:23:15 pm
^^ :imaposer:

Actually the diamond in your boots thing is not that unrealistic if the route does go into the Sperrgebiet.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5568/14902617755_858248ff2b_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on April 22, 2016, 09:50:19 pm
People are so dumb as to prize such a useless little thing.

Anyway, the Namib is probably not on for this Amageza at least.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 22, 2016, 10:36:35 pm
People are so dumb as to prize such a useless little thing.

Anyway, the Namib is probably not on for this Amageza at least.

awwww noooo
(http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2013/03/little-girl-head-in-hands-glum.jpg)

But Namibia is still on right?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Bill the Bong on April 25, 2016, 09:12:21 am
Realistically, the border crossings are a pain in the rear for the support crews.  Basically, everything you can find in Southern Nam and Bots can by found in the Northern Cape.  The Sperrgebied has a concession system that was allocated on factors that include number of vehicles that may access it.  I think access to it might be Alexander's greatest challenge ever.  I'm not sure that the amount of pain that it will take will be worth it.

Will be awesome, though...
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 25, 2016, 02:44:11 pm
Come on Bill, the Dakar once went from Paris to Cape Town. It was a ballache but thats part of the drama.

Like Brian forgetting his passport in the bivouac that cost him the podium this year. ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on April 30, 2016, 09:03:44 pm
More and more news:

Stages:

Upington: Scrutineering & Super Special
Kakamas: Liaison & Special
Springbok: Liaison & Special
Springbok: Liaison & Special
Springbok: Liaison & Special
Springbok: Liaison & Special
Undisclosed: Liaison & Special (marathon)
Upington: Liaison & Special (marathon)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 30, 2016, 10:34:07 pm
I must admit that while its a great for the crews, I find myself really, really disappointed we are not seeing much more than the northern cape and maybe W Cape.

No Bots. No Nam. No North West. Not even something starting up North maybe. Just a series of loops. It could have been so much more.  Meh.


Ah, well. Maybe in 2017 then.  :-\
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: gser on May 01, 2016, 09:55:23 am
. . . .mmmm , still going to be fun and tuff ?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Grolls on May 01, 2016, 11:00:44 am
The last 2 days look very interresting ........
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 01, 2016, 11:26:04 am
I must admit that while its a great for the crews, I find myself really, really disappointed we are not seeing much more than the northern cape and maybe W Cape.

No Bots. No Nam. No North West. Not even something starting up North maybe. Just a series of loops. It could have been so much more.  Meh.


Ah, well. Maybe in 2017 then.  :-\

I must admit to having the same thoughts while reading the email this morning. This will be my first Amageza and the 2015 & 2014 events defined my expectations for this year. One can only hope that the event will still live up to expectations.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Cracker on May 01, 2016, 01:35:47 pm
It will - don't worry.  :thumleft:

Pain, suffering, excitement and achievement can be dished up in heaps in this country alone.

I got the e-mail as well and really think it sounds better, to be honest. In time, as it gets more world-renowned, our neighbours will be begging for the chance to co-host, not so?

Be happy, 10% liaison is a massive (really huge!!!) bonus - in terms of riding enjoyment, they are not pleasant.

And more tech is always a bonus! Variety is the spice, as they say.

Best I stay away from this thread - the voices in my head have started up again .................................
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 01, 2016, 08:30:44 pm
No doubt about it it will still be damn hard to finish.

It has just become a lot less interesting, and is more like a giant enduro route. Not the spirit of adventure, where you have to work your ass off to get somewhere, crossing different terrains and countries.

There are some great routes that could be linked up for example: Start in Jozie, Liaison out to Warmbad, go up to Venda and then back down to Vryburg over 3-4 stages. Then another 3 stages and you are in Cape town via SPringbok. Boom 5000km. 7 stages. Multiple bivouacs. If you were clever you could have a couple of days where the bivouac is the same.

And for guys like Andrew and a few others..they have home field advantage because they know these areas so well.

Anyway. I will suck it up and shut it up now. I can see that last year the Support crews we under prepared and afkakked big time. I suppose they need to be given a break, but I do not see how this rally will progress unless we start to see some new areas.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: JustBendIt on May 02, 2016, 08:25:03 am
I agree it may be less interesting on paper but I think that it will be much better in practice - last year's foray into Botswana was just too much.

Too much for the organisation to handle smoothly and effectively and too much for the bottom half of the field to complete safely.

The small good parts of the stages in Botswana were totally overshadowed and outweighed by the bad bits - ridiculously long liasons, sloppy roadbook errors, insufficient recovery, 100s of kms of riding dead straight cut lines, lack of fuel, poor / no communication and horrible bivouacs just to name a few.

Things really brightened up when we returned back to SA - stuff just worked again - nobody can argue that.

In my opinion Amageza needs to consolidate and perfect the roadbooks, timing, recovery , bivouacs, communication etc - all the things that make a good, memorable and safe rally - before trying to bite off more than it can chew again.

Amageza must not be compared with Dakar - it must forge its own unique identity and the only way it will survive and grow is if it looks after its customers, the participants, and ensure that they return every year and tell others about their good experiences and get them to enter too.

The Northern Cape and Kalahari offers amazing varied terrain - it definitely will not be easy riding - but it does bode well for good, effective and organised logistics - by condensing the area you can get the important bits right  i.e.  roadbooks, timing, recovery , bivouacs, communication etc.

And one of the most important benefits in this tough, depressed economy is that it will radically reduce the cost of this rally for all concerned.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: markdiver on May 02, 2016, 08:52:50 am
For me to be honest, as long as I can through my leg over the saddle each day and ride, I am not bothered where the days stages will take place, as it will be awesome either way.  As for bivouacs, waiting in the pouring rain and mud soaked grounds, trying to find a dry dry spot, long liaisons, boys sleeping out in the field just adds to the special times and memories you will never forget and as always the comrade amongst everyone in these difficult times, is really fantastic.

BUT
 
To the Ama Org, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET THE TIMING RIGHT.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 02, 2016, 10:20:23 am
Wise words Jagsding :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 02, 2016, 10:28:40 am
I agree it may be less interesting on paper but I think that it will be much better in practice - last year's foray into Botswana was just too much.

The Northern Cape and Kalahari offers amazing varied terrain - it definitely will not be easy riding - but it does bode well for good, effective and organised logistics - by condensing the area you can get the important bits right  i.e.  roadbooks, timing, recovery , bivouacs, communication etc.

And one of the most important benefits in this tough, depressed economy is that it will radically reduce the cost of this rally for all concerned.

100% agree to your FULL post.  Roadbook errors was not limited to Bots so we must ignore that in the 'cross border hype'  

Once we crossed the border (and the sclep for the backups) we were still 'just in Africa', same tracks , scenery etc etc. We paid for fuel in Randelas, bought a KitKat and Fanta.  

My take on the Amageza project for the org is simple.  Try everything and retain the good.  And in all fairness, Amageza 2015 had much more BAD than GOOD like liason dist, number of boeviaks, total cost etc etc. (again, forget about the roadbook)

The economy is tough, just look at the number of riders on this forum that can not participate this year (anymore).  Add to that the pre-qualifying requirements and the entrants will be even less. Dakar qualifier status will also put a HUGE strain on the org as I am sure some big nob from ASO will be looking over Alexander's shoulder. (They do everything with MONEY whereas we need to do it with resourcefulness.) We (rockfox) are constantly looking at ways to reduce the cost to get a rally bike ready to allow more competitors in the sport.

Lastly, the 2015 roadbook issue.  Looking at WC Baja me thinks this issue will be greatly reduced.  The riders was informed of new speed restrictions and other issues the night before during rider briefing.  The central boevieak took a lot of strain off everyone and the Gyro proved itself as cost effective during planning and in stage pre run.  I dont think Alexander ever had the same 'birds eye view' of the competitors like during WC Baja.

When we develop software we always use the following principle: Get the basics to work first, then test new technologies and lastly, add the 'Lipstiffy and Eyeshadow' last.  (Who of you would like a beautiful bike that cant go faster than 20kph?   >:D)
 
Just my half Randella

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 05, 2016, 05:52:04 pm
On a different note...
Can anyone get to the following web page to book a tracking unit?
http://rentx.co.za/rental (http://rentx.co.za/rental)

I had some correspondence with Kyle from rentx earlier in the year but really just got a "works for me" response.
Have tried from work, home & phone and each time I receive a 403 error (Forbidden).
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 05, 2016, 05:58:22 pm
Grazer I get the same thing - 403- Forbidden!

So I googles rentx. Only one hit:

Rental – RENTX
rentx.co.za/rental/
Diese Seite übersetzen
Rental. Home Rental. +Call us for Device rentals & Platform usage +27 (0) 83 642 4645 sales@rentx.co.za. ` d7abc3_60ee9e2a7d1241ca9311f62ae0290d52 ...

I cant now, but maybe you can give that number a ring?

Are these the guys we are supposed to be using?

I am going to need a tracker given I plan to be riding a lot by myself while training anyway.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 05, 2016, 06:07:45 pm
Also spent sometime digging for contact info which is how I was able to contact Kyle from RentX.
I have sent him another email more than 24hrs ago but he has yet to respond.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on May 05, 2016, 07:15:18 pm
Also spent sometime digging for contact info which is how I was able to contact Kyle from RentX.
I have sent him another email more than 24hrs ago but he has yet to respond.

Maybe they have sorted it, if I click on the link I get this screen, if you scroll down you can enter your information.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 05, 2016, 08:46:58 pm
Maybe they have sorted it, if I click on the link I get this screen, if you scroll down you can enter your information.

Nope. Still 403 for me. I'm convinced there is some error with their server or firewall config that is rejecting certain requests.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on May 06, 2016, 06:18:01 am
Try the Amageza Webpage link. It works fine for me...


Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 06, 2016, 06:43:56 am
Try the Amageza Webpage link. It works fine for me...

And if you looked at the link you will see it is the same as what I have already posted.
It's clear that unless RentX fix their website I won't be able to book a tracking unit and can only hope that enough people will have the same problem to motivate RentX to actually acknowledge the problem.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on May 06, 2016, 07:00:29 am
Try the Amageza Webpage link. It works fine for me...

And if you looked at the link you will see it is the same as what I have already posted.
It's clear that unless RentX fix their website I won't be able to book a tracking unit and can only hope that enough people will have the same problem to motivate RentX to actually acknowledge the problem.

It works perfect on my side... will see if I can speak to Kyle and get it sorted... today.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Geel Kat on May 06, 2016, 07:47:07 am
Try the Amageza Webpage link. It works fine for me...

And if you looked at the link you will see it is the same as what I have already posted.
It's clear that unless RentX fix their website I won't be able to book a tracking unit and can only hope that enough people will have the same problem to motivate RentX to actually acknowledge the problem.

I think the problem is your side.

Tried it at home, from phone and from office in various browsers and it works for me.

Maybe you have a proxy which thinks it is a porn site.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: markdiver on May 06, 2016, 08:44:12 am
I get onto the RENTX site, but after entering all my data, it shows that my payment Summary is R 17101,00.  Hmmm, something maybe still a bit wrong!?   ??? ???
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 06, 2016, 08:52:31 am
I get onto the RENTX site, but after entering all my data, it shows that my payment Summary is R 17101,00.  Hmmm, something maybe still a bit wrong!?   ??? ???

not enough for the 'Company for sale' price but enough to start your own thing.  >:D

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: GraZer on May 06, 2016, 11:00:52 pm
Kyle from RentX gave me a call today and was most helpful. He admitted to having some problems with the website and was happy to arrange an invoice via email.
Kudos to Kyle for going the extra mile  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: markdiver on May 07, 2016, 10:36:00 am
Kyle from RentX gave me a call today and was most helpful. He admitted to having some problems with the website and was happy to arrange an invoice via email.
Kudos to Kyle for going the extra mile  :thumleft:

Yip Kyle called me also, so should be sorted soon.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on May 07, 2016, 11:55:15 pm
On a different note...
Can anyone get to the following web page to book a tracking unit?
http://rentx.co.za/rental (http://rentx.co.za/rental)

I had some correspondence with Kyle from rentx earlier in the year but really just got a "works for me" response.
Have tried from work, home & phone and each time I receive a 403 error (Forbidden).

I am still having issues with his site too, mind sharing contact details?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 08, 2016, 12:37:32 pm
On a different note...
Can anyone get to the following web page to book a tracking unit?
http://rentx.co.za/rental (http://rentx.co.za/rental)

I had some correspondence with Kyle from rentx earlier in the year but really just got a "works for me" response.
Have tried from work, home & phone and each time I receive a 403 error (Forbidden).

I am still having issues with his site too, mind sharing contact details?

As far as I remember if you log the the site from amageza.com 'Rent the Spot' it will display a page that state there are some issue on the site and you can do payments via EFT.   Don't know how that will work with overseas payments

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on May 08, 2016, 01:58:04 pm
On a different note...
Can anyone get to the following web page to book a tracking unit?
http://rentx.co.za/rental (http://rentx.co.za/rental)

I had some correspondence with Kyle from rentx earlier in the year but really just got a "works for me" response.
Have tried from work, home & phone and each time I receive a 403 error (Forbidden).

I am still having issues with his site too, mind sharing contact details?

As far as I remember if you log the the site from amageza.com 'Rent the Spot' it will display a page that state there are some issue on the site and you can do payments via EFT.   Don't know how that will work with overseas payments

Adie

The website is down and forwards (eventually) to the hosting provider.

Doesnt show more then a 403 page;

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /rental on this server.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 08, 2016, 03:03:53 pm
I do not have any issues getting to this page

rentx.co.za/rental/

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on May 08, 2016, 04:01:33 pm
I do not have any issues getting to this page

rentx.co.za/rental/

Adie

Hate that, a website with only local access  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 08, 2016, 07:16:59 pm
I do not have any issues getting to this page

rentx.co.za/rental/

Adie

Hate that, a website with only local access  ;D ;D

Got the same problem bro.

BTW hi from Frankfurt  :hello: When I get to RSA I'll kick their asses on your behalf too ;)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on May 08, 2016, 09:41:39 pm
I do not have any issues getting to this page

rentx.co.za/rental/

Adie

Hate that, a website with only local access  ;D ;D

Got the same problem bro.

BTW hi from Frankfurt  :hello: When I get to RSA I'll kick their asses on your behalf too ;)

Please do!! That'll teach 'm  :dousing:

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Jorizen on May 10, 2016, 09:08:40 am
Hi all,

After a long planning and hard thinking I made a decision. Signed in. This will be my first Amageza.
I am from Finland, so it will be a long tour for me and many rocks have to turn up before I am there, but I will for sure.


Greetings from Finland,
Jori
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 10, 2016, 09:45:43 am
Welcome

Start training in the sauna, it is gonna be HOT.

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: SteveD on May 10, 2016, 09:51:45 am
Hi all,
After a long planning and hard thinking I made a decision. Signed in. This will be my first Amageza.
I am from Finland, so it will be a long tour for me and many rocks have to turn up before I am there, but I will for sure.
Greetings from Finland,
Jori

Welcome!  :hello:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 10, 2016, 10:32:55 am
Welcome to the forum Jori - Its great to have you with us! :thumleft:

Let us know if there is anyway we can help.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: seankriel on May 10, 2016, 10:37:11 am
Hi all,

After a long planning and hard thinking I made a decision. Signed in. This will be my first Amageza.
I am from Finland, so it will be a long tour for me and many rocks have to turn up before I am there, but I will for sure.


Greetings from Finland,
Jori

Welcome Jori! Yes you will have a few more rocks to turn than others but speak to thedutchie, he should be a expert in the preparation to get your stuff to SA etc... I'm sure he will give you some solid advise.

As for me, I will see you when I send you off at the start of the specials!!

Sean
AKA Crazy Amageza Start Marshal
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Jorizen on May 10, 2016, 11:02:59 am
thanks for all,
not sure if sauna is best training method, but anyway I use to go sauna nearly everyday (my sauna is 24/7 ready),

and yes, for sure I need your help to organize everything...I will ship my own bike to SA and propably to Cape Town. Some how it need to move to start place and after race back to port.

I know tehdutchie, we met first time a couple years ago at Albania Rally. I have allready asked many questions from him.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: Crossed-up on May 10, 2016, 11:31:17 am
Welcome and the best of luck. By the time you get to the start line you'll probably feel you've finished one rally already.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: ktmpilot on May 10, 2016, 02:53:27 pm
Does anyone know what the entry fee will be this year for the Assistance Vehicle and driver? I can't see a price for this on the purchase section of the entry store online?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
Post by: tehdutchie on May 11, 2016, 08:47:19 pm
Hi all,

After a long planning and hard thinking I made a decision. Signed in. This will be my first Amageza.
I am from Finland, so it will be a long tour for me and many rocks have to turn up before I am there, but I will for sure.


Greetings from Finland,
Jori

Super news Jori!!

Let's getting our shipping organised then :)

Antal
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on May 16, 2016, 01:16:58 pm
We were able to restructure the race to facilitate a lower entry fee but still keep close to the original race distance for 2016.

In brief:

The race will start on Sunday 6 November 2016, and complete on Friday 11 November 2016. This should help with the leave from work we all need to take. So one could travel to Upington on the Saturday, and travel back the next Saturday, leaving one the Sunday to recover a bit before work on Monday!

We will only race in the Northern Cape Province of South Africa.

Assistance Crews will travel Upington to Kakamas, to Springbok and back to Upington. Simple, and easy. Crews should not have to travel more than 800km during the race. Unless off-course you manage to get yourself lost so badly that you end up in Sutherland!

Cost without loyalty discount:
Motorbike (all): R28,950.00

Note:
Competitors who paid more than this will be refunded by means of a voucher they may use on another product or service. No cash refunds unfortunately.
Competitors who paid less need not worry. They were on a Early Bird Special. So all good.

New regs are on the website http://www.amageza.com/#!amageza-rallye/mzumb (http://www.amageza.com/#!amageza-rallye/mzumb).

Guys, if you are not physically able to do the race on a bike, you are welcome to come on a Side x Side. This way you can have a navigator who can share some of the costs and off-course help with the navigation! Just a idea. We won't stay young forever!  ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: J3THRO on May 16, 2016, 01:34:15 pm
oh my hairy sack!!!!
I cant wait any more.
Klapping Malle Moto this year!

BTW Alex I like that idea of starting and finishing in the same place much easier to organize logistics that way
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Jan Sand on May 16, 2016, 01:59:08 pm
So there it is... entered and paid...Gona be awesome!!!Bring it!!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on May 16, 2016, 02:00:34 pm
Guys, if you are not physically able to do the race on a bike, you are welcome to come on a Side x Side. This way you can have a navigator who can share some of the costs and off-course help with the navigation! Just a idea. We won't stay young forever!  ;D

I am looking more and more at this option, getting older by the day now  :laughing4:

Adie
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on May 16, 2016, 02:21:55 pm
Guys, if you are not physically able to do the race on a bike, you are welcome to come on a Side x Side. This way you can have a navigator who can share some of the costs and off-course help with the navigation! Just a idea. We won't stay young forever!  ;D

I am looking more and more at this option, getting older by the day now  :laughing4:

Adie

Adie
I have a buggy for you... all you need is a new motor, some upgrades on shocks and you're ready to side x side... I want it back after the race though.... lol - and it's road legal!!! LOL
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ktmpilot on May 16, 2016, 04:19:42 pm
Does anyone know what the entry fee will be this year for the Assistance Vehicle and driver? I can't see a price for this on the purchase section of the entry store online?

It's showing on the Amageza store now: R3,990.00 for vehicle and driver- nice and cheap compared to last year!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on May 16, 2016, 07:21:47 pm
. . . . and the Malle Moto marshall is going to have a good time with some serious Dakar Challenge riders.
Good luck to all the Malle Moto riders that are dreaming to be a Dakar 2017 "free entry" rider.
Here we go !!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 16, 2016, 07:45:22 pm
. . . . and the Malle Moto marshall is going to have a good time with some serious Dakar Challenge riders.
Good luck to all the Malle Moto riders that are dreaming to be a Dakar 2017 "free entry" rider.
Here we go !!

:thumleft: :laughing7:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on May 16, 2016, 08:03:17 pm
. . . . and the Malle Moto marshall is going to have a good time with some serious Dakar Challenge riders.
Good luck to all the Malle Moto riders that are dreaming to be a Dakar 2017 2018 "free entry" rider.
Here we go !!

Little fix, but important.  :)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 16, 2016, 09:02:49 pm
Its because you had a certain hero in mind, Crossed-up ;D

I think we all do. 

Go Joey!!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on May 16, 2016, 09:40:21 pm
Not specifically. Of course, Joey's deserving of all our support and admiration

But the prize is for entry to the 2018 event. This makes it that much more desirable.

I did wonder on his thread about the articulation of his 2017 aspirations and the Challenge for 2018 entry.  I don't remember if he answered that.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on May 17, 2016, 09:48:52 am
. . . . and the Malle Moto marshall is going to have a good time with some serious Dakar Challenge riders.
Good luck to all the Malle Moto riders that are dreaming to be a Dakar 2017 2018 "free entry" rider.
Here we go !!

Little fix, but important.  :)

. . . .thanks for the big fix Crossed-up !
2018 is just around the corner !
Just think of it, in about a months time it will be the middle of the winter of 2016. Bliksem , the time flies !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: J3THRO on May 17, 2016, 09:52:23 am
Hi Guys

Friends of mine have a guest house in Uppington. I will be sleeping there the nights we spend in Uppington.

I said I will spread the word.

Here is the FB link with all their details.

Thanks

https://www.facebook.com/nanze.willemse/posts/10154266844907975?notif_t=mention&notif_id=1463462486701587 (https://www.facebook.com/nanze.willemse/posts/10154266844907975?notif_t=mention&notif_id=1463462486701587)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on May 26, 2016, 08:20:40 am
AMAGEZA BIKE FOR SALE

My rally bike is for sale - I spent over a 100 hours sourcing, fitting and fine tuning all the bits to build what I believe must be one of the best budget "rallye light" setups out there.

The beauty of the 525 RFS (racing four stroke) motor is its simplicity, strength and reliability. This engine features adjustable tappet style valves unlike most other motors where the camshaft must first be removed and shims used to set clearances and then camshaft refitted - setting valve clearances on a 525 is a 30 minute operation - very simple, quick and easy - this is why we chose to use these as rally bikes.

The base bike is a 2007 KTM 525 XC-W Desert racer - unlike almost all of the other 525s this bike came out standard with all wiring for lights and indicators and a 13 litre tank - and is fully roadworthy, licensed and registered.

The engine was refreshed 6 000 km ago and has a perfectly reconditioned cylinder head with Kibblewhite valves and valve springs - these valves must be made out of magic unobtanium because their clearances stay in spec.

Long list of very valuable and expensive extras

Front and rear brake disc protectors
PRO MOTO BILLET sidestand
AIRTIME footpegs
HYDE plastic bashplate
Aluminium rally bashplate with built in 2 litre water reservoir
NITHRONE custom seat - the standard seat has been widened and extra padding used and has a very grippy seat cover
ACERBIS white translucent 25 litre fuel tank - good for 450 km - awesome to be able to see how much fuel inside
ACERBIS orange translucent 13 litre fuel tank and extra seat that only fits this tank
SCOTTS steering damper on custom mount that is part of navigation tower

F2R RB730 electronic roadbook holder with thumb switch
ICO Rallye Max trip counter / speedo and Rallye Max G GPS cap repeater / speedo / trip counter
The above is all carefully and professionally wired up through a marine fuse box fitted in front of right fork behind headlight.

ACERBIS handguards and custom bar ends to absorb vibration and protect handlebars
Ceramic coated exhaust system - runs cooler and stays cleaner
Mount for Garmin Etrex GPS
Suspension completely rebuilt and fine tuned by Superfoxi for 90 kg rider
2 X extra TWIN AIR air filter
TUBLISS conversion to wheels
New MICHELIN DESERT tyres front and rear and at least 4 spare used tyres (perfect for training)
Brand new DID gold x-ring chain and sprockets (14/48 combo)
EXTREME LIGHTS LED spotlights
Spare clutch, brake, gear lever and rear brake pedal.

Very proud 18th place finisher at Amageza 2015.

I cannot see myself entering the Amageza this year (time and money do not allow) and it will be a waste to see this bike stand in the garage and that is the reason why it is up for sale.

This bike cost R100 000 to build EXCLUDING my 100 hours of labour.

My selling price is R75 000 for everything (half of this price is rally specific equipment)

Please PM me or call me on 082 520 1762.



Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 26, 2016, 10:57:00 am
 :drif: :drif: :drif:

I'm very interested Jagsding, but the big Q is how do do a deal without SWAMBO having a fit. :laughing7:

Truth be told someone else probably deserves it more than me anyway...  ::)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Cracker on May 26, 2016, 05:52:01 pm
1 wife's fit for that bike - well worth it  :thumleft:

 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on June 22, 2016, 07:10:17 pm
136 days to Amageza 2016....

Who has not started preparing? Lol

It's going to be epic!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Geel Kat on June 22, 2016, 07:22:23 pm
Amawhat?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 22, 2016, 10:43:06 pm
Well I took a look at my bike today for the first time in 18 months. :laughing7:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on June 23, 2016, 07:40:11 am
Well I took a look at my bike today for the first time in 18 months. :laughing7:
Well done BB !
Step in the right direction.
Best of luck with your effort !
See you in the Kalahari with your steed.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on June 23, 2016, 10:34:45 am
Amawhat?

Geelkat, is jy in?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Geel Kat on June 23, 2016, 10:57:19 am
Amawhat?

Geelkat, is jy in?

Nee my vrou se ek ry te kak.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on June 23, 2016, 12:28:19 pm
Amawhat?

Geelkat, is jy in?

Nee my vrou se ek ry te kak.

Lol! Kan ek jou dan maar op Marshal duty plaas, dan is jy nog steeds deel van die Aksie?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ktmpilot on June 30, 2016, 11:57:12 am
Weet iemand dalk al watter aande ons voor en na die Amageza ons eie akkomodasie gaan moet reel, maw waneer die bivouac oopmaak en toemaak?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on June 30, 2016, 12:27:01 pm
SeanKriel ?
Waai die wind weer innie Kaap ?
Sy landlyn  gee seker weer problem ?
LOL !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on June 30, 2016, 02:20:20 pm
Weet iemand dalk al watter aande ons voor en na die Amageza ons eie akkomodasie gaan moet reel, maw waneer die bivouac oopmaak en toemaak?

Soos ek verstaan: http://media.wix.com/ugd/d7abc3_5a2b01bccda946a2a680c8dcb1b36c44.pdf (http://media.wix.com/ugd/d7abc3_5a2b01bccda946a2a680c8dcb1b36c44.pdf)

Page 8:

Die Bivouac gaan Sondag 6 November vroeg oop maak vir setup, scruteneering en prolog deur die dag.....

DAAR IS NIE n bivouac Vrydag aand 11de Nov nie.... boek maar n lekker bed want julle gaan moee lywe hê....

As dinge verander sal dit in gemail word aan almal wat deel neem....

Strongs met training!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on July 21, 2016, 09:43:37 am
Long time no chat!!

Apologies. Running around like a mad dog ensuring we have a fault-free 2016 Amageza Rallye!

New website is up with FAQ and other info...http://www.amagezarallye.com/ (http://www.amagezarallye.com/)
Timing will now be done using the RFID system of Race Control with the GPS log being validated for speeding and other penalties. This means timing will be on-time every-time!! As I won't be the Clerk of the Course, and will mostly be sitting under a tree drinking a smoothy.. NOT.. ;D the briefings will be on time as well!! But just for in case, I have a back-up to do the briefings. Said back-up will do the course as well so he knows what he's talking about!

This year we will have 2 ambulances, 1 fast medic car, 1 helicopter and me in the gyro to make sure everyone is got to, quick quick. Multiple cut-off's during the day will ensure the lead and tail-end of riders are not so far as to stretch the medics. So make sure you are fit, your bike is good and stay with the pack. We will be rigorous with the cut-off's. Once the sweep touches you, you're out of the race. No more cut-and run!!  >:D. You still need 275km of fuel and you need 5 liters of water. Minimum is 5 liters of water on your back in two separate bladders. Still using eTrex 10,20,30. Anyway, scope out the new website. I think I made it very simple this time round!

This and more will be sent out in a newsletter to competitors pretty soon. Now I need to go fine-comb the gyro-copter (and replace the coolant), change my bikes oil, check the Jeep and make sure all is good for the 14 day recce ahead of me and John (Crossed-up) next week.

Just in case you did not know what a cross-country rally was... ;)

Later,
A

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on July 21, 2016, 10:14:50 am
This is going to be very good !
 Strongs to all !
Dankie Kameelman
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: whitedelight on July 21, 2016, 12:27:33 pm
Nice website Alex  :thumleft: quick question,why is the minimum age 21??
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on July 21, 2016, 01:21:35 pm
21 year olds are regarded as fully adult and responsible for their own decisions. In other forms of motor racing first-aid, adult help and support are always near. This is not the case in Amageza, where it is quite possible to be several hundred km away from any help. Let nobody say that competitors "enter into this lightly".
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: whitedelight on July 21, 2016, 09:02:38 pm
21 year olds are regarded as fully adult and responsible for their own decisions. In other forms of motor racing first-aid, adult help and support are always near. This is not the case in Amageza, where it is quite possible to be several hundred km away from any help. Let nobody say that competitors "enter into this lightly".

Thanks John
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on July 21, 2016, 09:09:01 pm
Minimum is 5 liters of water on your back in two separate bladders.

Is carrying a portion of the water on the bike not allowed  ???
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on July 22, 2016, 06:14:09 am
Note the minimum!!!  :biggrin:

As long as you have 5 liters total. This can be 3 on the back, two on the bike, etc. But due to previous years groans regarding a fixed water tank on bikes, I have lessened the requirement to a minimum of two bladders on your back.

Please remember. Its best is to send your queries to entry@amageza.com. The forum may not have the answer or may have the wrong answer! Saying that you read it on the forum won't help at scrutineering! The bike scrutineer is a real tough bugger!  ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Rokie on July 22, 2016, 10:28:21 am
ehm . . . just one thing . . . about the website (nice pictures, by the way) . . .

I went on the new look www.amagezarallye.com (http://www.amagezarallye.com) website and NOWHERE could I find reference to the date of the event . . . not on the home page or on any of the 5 "About" links . . .

small things, hey? Don't worry, Alex and co., I am still a great fan. I just thought I'd give some user feedback  :thumleft:
(I'll send an email to the above address as well)


Fixed already. Great response time!!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Rolling Stone on July 23, 2016, 03:17:09 pm
Note the minimum!!!  :biggrin:

As long as you have 5 liters total. This can be 3 on the back, two on the bike, etc. But due to previous years groans regarding a fixed water tank on bikes, I have lessened the requirement to a minimum of two bladders on your back.

Please remember. Its best is to send your queries to entry@amageza.com. The forum may not have the answer or may have the wrong answer! Saying that you read it on the forum won't help at scrutineering! The bike scrutineer is a real tough bugger!  ;D

Good idea
I would fill one with energy drink and keep one with clean water.
Easy to get to and you have a choice of what to drink.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Bill the Bong on July 24, 2016, 05:37:19 pm
Note the minimum!!!  :biggrin:




Good idea
I would fill one with energy drink Coffee and keep one with clean water different coffee.
Easy to get to and you have a choice of what to drink.


Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on July 25, 2016, 10:29:34 am
Xmas in July Special till 1 Aug 2016!  :3some:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Scribble on July 25, 2016, 10:41:38 am
Note the minimum!!!  :biggrin:




Good idea
I would fill one with energy drink Coffee and keep one with clean water different coffee.
Easy to get to and you have a choice of what to drink.


Fixed that for you
very funny office people think I'm crazy laughing out loud
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on July 27, 2016, 08:40:15 am
Well, the bike is on it's way! A bit early so some time to relax until November...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/13619885_10208099809667674_22219540477266822_n.jpg?oh=7ae979e5541c475707307629a8781728&oe=58187A28&__gda__=1478987417_05eaf59eb6062c0a53ac2ec7614987b7)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on July 27, 2016, 09:15:14 am
Good travels tehdutchie !
Indicators ? You will fix them in ZA ?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on July 27, 2016, 09:35:55 am
Good travels tehdutchie !
Indicators ? You will fix them in ZA ?

I heard handsignals are the way forward  :biggrin:

But indeed, they are in my box of goodies  O0
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on July 27, 2016, 10:41:55 am
Good travels tehdutchie !
Indicators ? You will fix them in ZA ?

I heard handsignals are the way forward  :biggrin:

But indeed, they are in my box of goodies  O0

If you need me to keep you bike "fit" while it is here in SA, I don't mind.... lol.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 28, 2016, 08:44:26 am
:thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

This is gonna be so awesommmmmmmmmmmme :laughing7: :ricky:

Im beginning to think that the coffee idea is a good idea. Been thrashing about in the hot Zim sun looking at gold mines and cold coffee at 3pm after no breakfast and no lunch does wonders for the soul.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on July 28, 2016, 03:13:01 pm
Xmas in July Special till 1 Aug 2016!  :3some:
Got that from DINGAAN noob as well , LOL.
Thanks Kameelman. I trust you will get some serious replies !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on July 29, 2016, 06:49:25 am
Looks like we have some Ozzies joining too.

Welcome aboard mate!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on July 29, 2016, 09:37:26 am
Looks like we have some Ozzies joining too.

Welcome aboard mate!!

Ozzies?? Where??
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on August 02, 2016, 10:18:24 pm
Looks like we have some Ozzies joining too.

Welcome aboard mate!!

Ozzies?? Where??

Dave and Neil, about to pull the pin, so they should arrive here shortly!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 04, 2016, 06:34:12 am
Looks like we have some Ozzies joining too.

Welcome aboard mate!!

Ozzies?? Where??

Dave and Neil, about to pull the pin, so they should arrive here shortly!

 :thumleft: :thumleft: Super Super  :thumleft: :thumleft: Welcome mate's
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 05, 2016, 02:31:30 pm
Amageza Rallye  :headbang:

3 months from NOW! Who is not ready?

Good Luck with all the prep-work!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Ross Riddle on August 06, 2016, 05:09:46 am
Definitely not ready! However training has started and doing the Pongola 500 as a gauge of what the fitness is.
Bike prep is moving along slowly, nice to come here and see all the pretty things others have done to thier steads. With the amount of money being spent the only thing fit is my swiping arm!!!
Train hard and dont even look at the credit card expenses, deal with that after the race.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: SteveD on August 08, 2016, 09:48:38 am
SO you all know about David Thomas, who is on his way to Dakar?
https://www.facebook.com/Journeytodakar/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Journeytodakar/?fref=ts) and  www.journeytodakar.co.za (http://www.journeytodakar.co.za) provides lots of info.
Well I was browsing through info on his website, and I came across this:

The Buildup and Preparation to the Dakar 2017
...
November 2016

Ride the AMAGEZA rally

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on August 08, 2016, 10:06:36 am
Thanks Steve !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Rokie on August 11, 2016, 07:28:43 am
baby steps . . . it looks like I will move from behind the keyboard into a support team . . . now need to confirm that I can get leave. If all works out, I may be a sleepless slave at Amageza 2016 - can't wait  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 11, 2016, 08:26:18 am
baby steps . . . it looks like I will move from behind the keyboard into a support team . . . now need to confirm that I can get leave. If all works out, I may be a sleepless slave at Amageza 2016 - can't wait  :thumleft:

Start catching up on sleep now! You not going to get any sleep during the rallye!! Thust me - I know! Lol...
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on August 11, 2016, 08:51:31 am
baby steps . . . it looks like I will move from behind the keyboard into a support team . . . now need to confirm that I can get leave. If all works out, I may be a sleepless slave at Amageza 2016 - can't wait  :thumleft:

Start catching up on sleep now! You not going to get any sleep during the rallye!! Thust me - I know! Lol...
Just so !
Wie snork die hardste SeanKriel . . . . ? LOL !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 11, 2016, 08:54:48 am
baby steps . . . it looks like I will move from behind the keyboard into a support team . . . now need to confirm that I can get leave. If all works out, I may be a sleepless slave at Amageza 2016 - can't wait  :thumleft:

Start catching up on sleep now! You not going to get any sleep during the rallye!! Thust me - I know! Lol...
Just so !
Wie snork die hardste SeanKriel . . . . ? LOL !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on August 11, 2016, 11:12:54 am
Lekker. . . . .!
Only real Rallye ones, I hope ! LOL !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on August 12, 2016, 08:01:47 am
Sneak-peak preview of some sections of the 2016 race route...

https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0 (https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0)

Ooh, the special price on the entry fee is still on...
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 12, 2016, 08:08:01 am
Sneak-peak preview of some sections of the 2016 race route...

https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0 (https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0)

Ooh, the special price on the entry fee is still on...

Super teaser!! Can't wait!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Scrat on August 12, 2016, 08:26:23 am
Sneak-peak preview of some sections of the 2016 race route...

https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0 (https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0)

Ooh, the special price on the entry fee is still on...

Super teaser!! Can't wait!!

Bring it!!

Dammit.. moet my bike nou kla prep!!  :ricky: :ricky:

tyd raak min.... en vinnig!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on August 12, 2016, 09:03:10 am
Uploaded to wrong Youtube channel.  :lamer:

The correct link... Maybe someone can embed please. I'm a bit technically challenged on this forum!  ;D

https://youtu.be/lPgatMrfD5M (https://youtu.be/lPgatMrfD5M)

https://www.youtube.com/v/lPgatMrfD5M&feature=youtu.be
BB07-Fixed  ;)

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 12, 2016, 07:45:01 pm
Looks nice!! Im looking forward to it! :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ktmpilot on August 15, 2016, 03:31:19 pm
Weet iemand dalk presies waar in Upington die begin en eindpunt sal wees, ek wil kyk om so naby as moontlik akkomodasie te bespreek?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: melvman on August 15, 2016, 04:35:39 pm
Sneak-peak preview of some sections of the 2016 race route...

https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0 (https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0)

Ooh, the special price on the entry fee is still on...

Super teaser!! Can't wait!!

Hi Sean

I'd like to join the recovery crew again this year...if there's a gap.

Regards

Mel
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 15, 2016, 06:03:22 pm
Sneak-peak preview of some sections of the 2016 race route...

https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0 (https://youtu.be/2Q7YOKG9Zf0)

Ooh, the special price on the entry fee is still on...

Super teaser!! Can't wait!!

Hi Sean

I'd like to join the recovery crew again this year...if there's a gap.

Regards

Mel

Hi Mel

We will put a crew proposal together close to end of September - if Camelman approves all will be called and mailed and whatzaaaaaped immediately!! Going to be ROF this year!! Lol!

S
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Bill the Bong on August 16, 2016, 03:04:01 pm
Weet iemand dalk presies waar in Upington die begin en eindpunt sal wees, ek wil kyk om so naby as moontlik akkomodasie te bespreek?

Upington is maar klein, jong  :biggrin:.  Dit behoort naby die skou terrain en lughawe te wees.  Daar is nie juis enige akkommodasie binne n km of so nie.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on August 17, 2016, 09:13:19 am
Weet iemand dalk presies waar in Upington die begin en eindpunt sal wees, ek wil kyk om so naby as moontlik akkomodasie te bespreek?

Brakbos Gastehuis is net paar 100m van skou terrein.


Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Jorizen on August 18, 2016, 01:28:22 pm
Today she left, pinpoint you know!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on August 18, 2016, 02:01:29 pm
Great ! safe travels Jorizen !
See you soon !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: AlexRG on August 18, 2016, 02:57:02 pm

Did Jorizen introduce himself yet?

How many other international riders apart from Antal?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 19, 2016, 10:00:18 pm
Today she left, pinpoint you know!

:thumleft:
:thumleft:
:thumleft:
:thumleft:

Looking forward to meeting you Jori! That Aprilia was my first rally dream bike, nearly got one myself. It will be great to see one again

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on August 21, 2016, 12:34:55 pm
In CT for the day and then back to Springbok, where they have some incredible facilities, well-suited for the rally-rider in a rush.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on August 21, 2016, 12:51:01 pm
Many of the tracks are going to be absolutely amazing. Here's our fearless man of camels crushing daisies on a steep slope.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on August 21, 2016, 12:53:34 pm
We thought of giving you this, but we'll keep that one for next year!

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on August 21, 2016, 07:28:27 pm

Did Jorizen introduce himself yet?

How many other international riders apart from Antal?

Looks.like the Aussies won't make it.

From the people that I know;

The Italians are coming though ;)

Jonathan is as well, as is Simon.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on August 21, 2016, 07:29:41 pm
Many of the tracks are going to be absolutely amazing. Here's our fearless man of camels crushing daisies on a steep slope.



Nooooo, not the daisies!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on August 22, 2016, 06:14:26 am
We thought of giving you this, but we'll keep that one for next year!



That "Sandhoop" looks "easy"..... come on Camelman - come on Crossedup - make it a "easy" one... Lol

Nice to see some pics - flowers - and to-lets  - lol.. just more than 2 months and "dis sulke tyd" Africa is nie vir sussies nie!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 22, 2016, 09:11:51 am
Many of the tracks are going to be absolutely amazing. Here's our fearless man of camels crushing daisies on a steep slope.



Nooooo, not the daisies!

 :laughing4:

You see John - Not even the cars can be environmentally friendly and stay on the track! You have to cut us a little bit of slack man  ;)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Hooli on August 22, 2016, 02:36:02 pm
Must post it here as well.........KTM 450 RR
Go look at this beast for sale in for section pls.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on August 23, 2016, 01:49:41 pm
Many of the tracks are going to be absolutely amazing. Here's our fearless man of camels crushing daisies on a steep slope.



Nooooo, not the daisies!

 :laughing4:

You see John - Not even the cars can be environmentally friendly and stay on the track! You have to cut us a little bit of slack man  ;)


That is the track! The daisies are trespassing.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 23, 2016, 11:47:12 pm
Tomorrow Gerry & I are doing a 562km road book setup by SteveD.  Loop from Bapsfontein up north somewhere.

Thanks for your labour of love bud. :thumleft:

I am so looking forward to a nice long day in the saddle following a route I have never seen before.

The idea is to keep the not-so-shiney side up and get to the finish in one piece.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on August 24, 2016, 06:40:22 am
Lekker ry BB.
blink kant bo = shiney side up , . . . mmmm
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on August 24, 2016, 08:24:03 am
Tomorrow Gerry & I are doing a 562km road book setup by SteveD.  Loop from Bapsfontein up north somewhere.

Thanks for your labour of love bud. :thumleft:

I am so looking forward to a nice long day in the saddle following a route I have never seen before.

The idea is to keep the not-so-shiney side up and get to the finish in one piece.

You back in SA? Lekker man!

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 25, 2016, 11:57:04 pm
Ja it was lekker. Never crashed which was good (My new years resolution! :laughing7:), but we had to divert the route as it had two locked gates. I did 660km and Gerry did 700 odd.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on August 26, 2016, 06:59:37 am
Gates are the bane of our rally lives. They are a fact of life in almost all of South Africa, and are proliferating depressingly fast to the north of us. 

Now, if we could only think of a way to incorporate gates into the competitive flow of the race. 

One possible way that I've been thinking about would be to insist that each competitor shall stay within some specified distance of the gate for at least some specified time, say 30 seconds, whether the gate has already been opened it or not. Each gate that should remain closed would be tulipped as such. Then everyone will have much the same disadvantage. So if you're riding alone you stop, get off and open the gate, ride through, stop, close it, see out the 30sec and ride on. So if you come to an open gate that should be closed it means that your mate opened it for you less than 30 seconds ago, and that you should close it. Because of the 30 second rule you'd lose no time relative to everyone else. Of course, you'd then have to have a timing device to add to the festoonery of the cockpit!

This would be a tiresome and tiring addition to the race, but it could make it fairer, and it would open much more of the country for racing.

Of course, if we had lots of money we'd have a race official manning every gate on the route, filling your water and offering encouragement.

These are my personal thoughts and not Alexander's.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on August 27, 2016, 08:42:12 am
Another teaser video!

https://youtu.be/4PXNqCcYn34 (https://youtu.be/4PXNqCcYn34)

Catch you later. Get fit, you'll need it!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 27, 2016, 10:18:22 pm
Whooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! :ricky:

Looks like lots of Tankwa again.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on August 28, 2016, 11:56:28 am
Where exactly are the bivvys / camps and on what days ? - we need this info for logistic organisation purposes
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on August 28, 2016, 01:26:02 pm
Have you read the documentation?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_J9LhYaOfiziKSwWYk75OM5M6saSXN25evYchL2yX4w/edit?usp=sharing

Sunday 6th Nov - Upington - No camping
Monday 7th Nov - Kakamas - Camping
Tuesday 8th Nov - Springbok - Camping
Wednesday 9th Nov - Springbok - Camping
Thursday 10th Nov - Marathon (Undisclosed)
Friday 11th Nov - Upington - No camping
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on August 28, 2016, 01:31:44 pm
I don't need to when I've got you

Thanks pal  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 28, 2016, 08:59:47 pm
I don't need to when I've got you

Thanks pal  :thumleft:

Famous last words. ;)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Bill the Bong on August 29, 2016, 08:30:18 am
Another teaser video!

https://youtu.be/4PXNqCcYn34 (https://youtu.be/4PXNqCcYn34)

Catch you later. Get fit, you'll need it!  :thumleft:

Where the hell do you find the music for your videos?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on August 30, 2016, 08:37:56 pm
Today was the 10 th day after my shoulder op
Unfortunately I cannot ride the Amageza in November - the recovery period is longer than the time left to prepare
In line with the T's & C's of the rally organisers I cannot claim my full entry fee

I am looking for a prospective Amageza rider looking to enter the 2016 event at a discounted rate from me in an attempt to recover most of my entrance fee
This is allowed
Pm me if you are interrested in an Amageza entry
Obviousely you would need to have qualified  or have a strong cv to motivate your ability with the organisers
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Rolling Stone on August 31, 2016, 02:02:48 pm
Today was the 10 th day after my shoulder op
Unfortunately I cannot ride the Amageza in November - the recovery period is longer than the time left to prepare
In line with the T's & C's of the rally organisers I cannot claim my full entry fee

I am looking for a prospective Amageza rider looking to enter the 2016 event at a discounted rate from me in an attempt to recover most of my entrance fee
This is allowed
Pm me if you are interrested in an Amageza entry
Obviousely you would need to have qualified  or have a strong cv to motivate your ability with the organisers

Howzit Gary

I will make it very easy for you, all you need to do to recover your full entry fee with interest is to lend me that nicely prepped bike of yours to take for a leasurely spin through the Northrn Cape  :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Rolling Stone on August 31, 2016, 02:05:32 pm
Today was the 10 th day after my shoulder op
Unfortunately I cannot ride the Amageza in November - the recovery period is longer than the time left to prepare
In line with the T's & C's of the rally organisers I cannot claim my full entry fee

I am looking for a prospective Amageza rider looking to enter the 2016 event at a discounted rate from me in an attempt to recover most of my entrance fee
This is allowed
Pm me if you are interrested in an Amageza entry
Obviousely you would need to have qualified  or have a strong cv to motivate your ability with the organisers

Howzit Gary

I will make it very easy for you, all you need to do to recover your full entry fee with interest is to lend me that nicely prepped bike of yours to take for a leasurely spin through the Northrn Cape  :ricky:

Very sory to hear about the shoulder, after  all that effort you put in to prep for the Amageza
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 31, 2016, 04:03:38 pm
That's a real bummer Grolls.  :-\

The upside is there will always be another race, and hopefully another Amageza too.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on August 31, 2016, 08:49:16 pm
Thanks boyz 👍
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on September 01, 2016, 07:36:12 am
That's a real bummer Grolls.  :-\

The upside is there will always be another race, and hopefully another Amageza too.
Agree BB
Sterkte Grolls !
Next time . . . .
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ktmpilot on September 07, 2016, 10:11:16 am
Weet iemand dalk van 'n bike winkel wat Amageza support packages aanbied soos laasjaar. Ek het gehoop om KTM Cape Town s'n te vat, maar hulle het my gister laat weet dat hulle nie meer ene gaan aanbied nie.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on September 07, 2016, 10:28:09 am
Weet iemand dalk van 'n bike winkel wat Amageza support packages aanbied soos laasjaar. Ek het gehoop om KTM Cape Town s'n te vat, maar hulle het my gister laat weet dat hulle nie meer ene gaan aanbied nie.

Kyk op die Amageza Shop.... daar is n opsie...

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ktmpilot on September 07, 2016, 10:35:43 am
Weet iemand dalk van 'n bike winkel wat Amageza support packages aanbied soos laasjaar. Ek het gehoop om KTM Cape Town s'n te vat, maar hulle het my gister laat weet dat hulle nie meer ene gaan aanbied nie.

Kyk op die Amageza Shop.... daar is n opsie...



Dankie Sean, ek het daai gesien, maar dit lyk vir my net na bike vervoer pakette? Ek het spesifiek mechanic en "pit" support nodig. Ek het 'n buddy om my bakkie te ry en my te help, maar laasjaar het ek werk aan my bike nodig gehad op 'n stadium wat bietjie bo ons paygrade was en ook sekere spares wat ons nie gehad het nie. So hierdie jaar wil ek maar  die geld spandeer om 'n behoorlike bike diens opsie in die bivouac te he. Laasjaar het ek gesien RAD, KTM Cape Town, Eddy2Race, ens, ens, het sulke pakette aangebied maar ek is nie seker wie weer hierdie jaar dit gaan aanbied nie?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 07, 2016, 10:55:39 am
ktmpilot, I would get a nice service done now - its a 690 and wont need a service until after the rally - what could possibly go wrong?

Then you can join malle moto and afkak with the rest of us racing below the pay grade. ;D :deal:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: J3THRO on September 09, 2016, 01:17:47 pm
Praat met Eddie by E2R hulle het packages sover ek weet en ja dit maak nie saak as jou Husky oranje is nie.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on September 09, 2016, 01:52:26 pm
E2R Are not attending Amageza this year.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Hondsekierie on September 12, 2016, 08:01:03 pm
Have you maybe tried RAD??
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on September 12, 2016, 08:49:58 pm
RAD are attending and announced their support package today.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Hondsekierie on September 12, 2016, 09:02:32 pm
RAD are attending and announced their support package today.

Where did you see it and did they give the costing of the package?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on September 12, 2016, 09:30:15 pm
Where did you see it and did they give the costing of the package?

You have a PM.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on September 12, 2016, 09:30:53 pm
So who else is offering support packages???
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on September 13, 2016, 07:11:13 am
Team Verve have another 2 secret weapons for this year's Amageza
Joining Chris, Ludo rides for the White Rhino and my ticket has been grabbed by a very enthusiastic Warren Strong  :thumleft: :thumleft:

Good luck with the preparations boyz  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on September 14, 2016, 06:33:41 am
The entry list was posted recently...
http://www.amagezarallye.com/restricted-class (http://www.amagezarallye.com/restricted-class)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on September 14, 2016, 08:00:16 am
Excellent condition used navigation gear available here http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=196492.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=196492.0)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: CycleC on September 14, 2016, 10:27:12 am
Can this be true - Only 37 Entries so far - Surely this list cant be correct, It was a good event last year wasn't it - surely they can get 150 +. I really hope for the organisers sake this list is just not updated. 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on September 14, 2016, 10:30:14 am
It is true - only 37

There were 38 last week but Grolls has withdrawn due to injury

Law of averages says another few won't make the start or get past day 1 - gonna be a thin field

BUT lets be positive and look forward to some good racing
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Ross Riddle on September 14, 2016, 10:35:13 am
Looks very thin.
I do know of a couple of guys that are still on the fence on whether to participate or not.
Trying very hard to convince them to commit.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: CycleC on September 14, 2016, 10:38:34 am
Damn -  I hope they get more entries, Rallye Racing is not my thing but I really enjoyed watching the live timing last year. there is still time so hopefully more guys will enter.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on September 14, 2016, 10:49:27 am
There probably won't be an Amageza in 2017 and if it is held again it will likely be around March or April in 2018. So this is it for the next 18 months or so (or maybe much longer).
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Garth Roberts on September 14, 2016, 10:14:11 pm
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Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Camelman on September 15, 2016, 10:05:14 am
Can this be true - Only 37 Entries so far - Surely this list cant be correct, It was a good event last year wasn't it - surely they can get 150 +. I really hope for the organisers sake this list is just not updated. 

This list works on the final payment (Payment 3) and for the Malle Moto on the Malle Moto product. As the system marks it paid, it is reflected on the entry list.

It is true that the entries are low, but no stress. This is no longer my company. It's God's. He saved me from being a hole in the ground a couple of weeks back when my gyro broke up in flight (I'll tell you the full story someday).

I remember vividly the 2013 Amageza. We had to cancel the proposed event because I could not get the race working with MSA. It took me 2 weeks to restructure and we had to refund 50% of the competitors and scale down on personnel. But come race day we had the BEST RACE ever. It was before teams could enter and competitors could only do it Malle Moto. Competitors were like a band of brothers. Everyone was helping everyone survive to the end.

The moral of the story is this:
God knows why I started this race, and my intentions. Through Amageza we have reached thousands of people in less advantaged villages. We have had enduro riders become Dakar entrants. We have had adventure riders become competitors. My dreams of getting more Africans on the world stage of Dakar is coming true.  By starting this race many new industries had started, some of which are now exporting rally products. We made a difference. We got off the fence and dove into the fire. Everyone of the 300+ riders that has passed through a Amageza is a part of this.

So it does not matter if we have 23 entries like in 2011, and I have to strap a satellite phone onto my bike handlebars and a medi-kit to the back and race behind the last riders, but WE WILL HAVE A AWESOME RACE! (Don't stress out. I have booked the helicopter and medical response team. Might not be able to give you a embossed towel with your name on though  ;D.)

The routes alone is worth all the effort and money spent or lost. Who cares. Money is made and lost in a fraction of a second of a lifetime. Memories last forever.

One life, live it!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Ross Riddle on September 15, 2016, 10:22:26 am
Well said!
Sounds like a interesting story regarding the Gyro!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on September 15, 2016, 10:24:24 am
Can this be true - Only 37 Entries so far - Surely this list cant be correct, It was a good event last year wasn't it - surely they can get 150 +. I really hope for the organisers sake this list is just not updated. 

This list works on the final payment (Payment 3) and for the Malle Moto on the Malle Moto product. As the system marks it paid, it is reflected on the entry list.

It is true that the entries are low, but no stress. This is no longer my company. It's God's. He saved me from being a hole in the ground a couple of weeks back when my gyro broke up in flight (I'll tell you the full story someday).

I remember vividly the 2013 Amageza. We had to cancel the proposed event because I could not get the race working with MSA. It took me 2 weeks to restructure and we had to refund 50% of the competitors and scale down on personnel. But come race day we had the BEST RACE ever. It was before teams could enter and competitors could only do it Malle Moto. Competitors were like a band of brothers. Everyone was helping everyone survive to the end.

The moral of the story is this:
God knows why I started this race, and my intentions. Through Amageza we have reached thousands of people in less advantaged villages. We have had enduro riders become Dakar entrants. We have had adventure riders become competitors. My dreams of getting more Africans on the world stage of Dakar is coming true.  By starting this race many new industries had started, some of which are now exporting rally products. We made a difference. We got off the fence and dove into the fire. Everyone of the 300+ riders that has passed through a Amageza is a part of this.

So it does not matter if we have 23 entries like in 2011, and I have to strap a satellite phone onto my bike handlebars and a medi-kit to the back and race behind the last riders, but WE WILL HAVE A AWESOME RACE! (Don't stress out. I have booked the helicopter and medical response team. Might not be able to give you a embossed towel with your name on though  ;D.)

The routes alone is worth all the effort and money spent or lost. Who cares. Money is made and lost in a fraction of a second of a lifetime. Memories last forever.

One life, live it!

Camelman! I speak for all the marshals volunteering: WE HAVE YOUR BACK!! We will assist support and stand by YOU!

Keep it up!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on September 15, 2016, 10:31:10 am
....Camelman - That post says it all ...  :thumleft:
Damn my shoulder op
Sounds like this Amageza is going to be one of the best  :ricky:

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: MaxThePanda on September 15, 2016, 12:04:08 pm
FOMO already.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 15, 2016, 03:40:43 pm
Well I learnt something new today:

FOMO - Fear of Missing Out.
noun
informal

    [mass noun] Anxiety that an exciting or interesting event may currently be happening elsewhere, often aroused by posts seen on social media.
    ‘I realized I was a lifelong sufferer of FOMO’


FOMO indeed Ian. :laughing7: Are you in now? It would be a great if you are. :thumleft:

Butterflies for me already ::) ;D

*****************************************************************


Here are some questions and the Orga's answers applicable to the MALLE MOTO guys with my own comments in green for readers who might be green to this event:

> About malle moto this year:
>
> 1) Are we allowed to get outside help in changing mousses and tyres? If not, will there be a tyre holder device for us to use - if not can one of us bring one?
Yes. I'm working on a sponsor who will do this for us. He will also sell mousses and tires on site.
So hope for (but dont expect) a tyre changing device, and hope for a service to have it done, but don't expect it.
>
> 2) Can I bring a spare rear and front rim on malle moto?
Yes. Two tires or complete rims & tires.
Awesomeness. If you have rims, it will save you two tyre changes on the race at some point.
>
> 3) Will there be a power source for us malle moto guys to plug into in each bivvy?
Yes
Awesome, but plan for it to be 500m away in case it is. :laughing7: Also bring your own applicable adaptors so that a socket is always available for someone else even with your stuff plugged in.
>
> 4) Old oil - where would we dump it?
Malle Moto marshals will have empty drums for that purpose.
>
> 5) Water: Will there be a supply of good drinking water for us at the bivouacs and will any of it be "brak"? For some reason brak water gives me the gyppos
>Yes. I drink them all, without issues. But bottled water is for sale in each town (Upington, Kakamas, Springbok, XXX)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on September 15, 2016, 09:51:15 pm
Can this be true - Only 37 Entries so far - Surely this list cant be correct, It was a good event last year wasn't it - surely they can get 150 +. I really hope for the organisers sake this list is just not updated. 

This list works on the final payment (Payment 3) and for the Malle Moto on the Malle Moto product. As the system marks it paid, it is reflected on the entry list.

It is true that the entries are low, but no stress. This is no longer my company. It's God's. He saved me from being a hole in the ground a couple of weeks back when my gyro broke up in flight (I'll tell you the full story someday).

I remember vividly the 2013 Amageza. We had to cancel the proposed event because I could not get the race working with MSA. It took me 2 weeks to restructure and we had to refund 50% of the competitors and scale down on personnel. But come race day we had the BEST RACE ever. It was before teams could enter and competitors could only do it Malle Moto. Competitors were like a band of brothers. Everyone was helping everyone survive to the end.

The moral of the story is this:
God knows why I started this race, and my intentions. Through Amageza we have reached thousands of people in less advantaged villages. We have had enduro riders become Dakar entrants. We have had adventure riders become competitors. My dreams of getting more Africans on the world stage of Dakar is coming true.  By starting this race many new industries had started, some of which are now exporting rally products. We made a difference. We got off the fence and dove into the fire. Everyone of the 300+ riders that has passed through a Amageza is a part of this.

So it does not matter if we have 23 entries like in 2011, and I have to strap a satellite phone onto my bike handlebars and a medi-kit to the back and race behind the last riders, but WE WILL HAVE A AWESOME RACE! (Don't stress out. I have booked the helicopter and medical response team. Might not be able to give you a embossed towel with your name on though  ;D.)

The routes alone is worth all the effort and money spent or lost. Who cares. Money is made and lost in a fraction of a second of a lifetime. Memories last forever.

One life, live it!

Camelman! I speak for all the marshals volunteering: WE HAVE YOUR BACK!! We will assist support and stand by YOU!

Keep it up!

Super!!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BV on September 16, 2016, 07:51:49 am
FOMO already.

Max.
I for one are going to miss you.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on September 18, 2016, 07:17:29 am
USED RALLY NAVIGATION KIT FOR SALE

Used (1 rally Amageza 2015) but excellent perfect working condition rally navigation gear

1 X F2R RB730 electronic roadbook holders with all wiring and thumbswitch brackets
R3 000

1 X ICO Rallye Max trip meter with all wiring and thumbswitch
R3 700

2 X F2R electronic roadbook LED backlight - works with all models of F2R roadbooks
R250 each

1 X aluminium roadbook thumbswitch bracket - designed to work with ICO / RNS / F2R thumbswitch mountings - cleans up the "cockpit" nicely
R250 each

Above prices exclude transport - courier costs for buyers account - Aramex couriers charge R100 for overnight delivery to your door

Please PM me if you are interested in any of the above
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on September 18, 2016, 11:29:09 am
This is really well priced rally equipment 👍
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on September 19, 2016, 08:29:52 am
Lekker Alex! Wish I could do it this year!

I personally thick the format is great this year. Less of a logistical nightmare with the central biouvac, and the best riding terrain of the NC.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on September 19, 2016, 11:38:21 am
Interesting observation....

Amageza 2015 entry list was 86 strong....
Amageza 2016 entry list is 37 strong....

Only 17 riders from 2015 is doing 2016. 20 New riders or riders who skipped a year and returned....

Question?
 Are there really only 17 returnees?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 19, 2016, 12:27:20 pm
Sean, its not that surprising to me.

Lets face the facts ladies & gentlemen: Rally is simply not everyone's cup of tea. Its also a tough year financially for many of us.

More importantly, you have to be a masochistic sob who does not mind not sleeping less than than 3-4hrs/night, and riding all day, everyday in hostile conditions, completely alone 90% of the time.

I think a lot of the guys who do enter, enter looking at the thing through rose-tinted glasses. When they find out its actually a hard grind to finish just one leg, and that it also costs bit of money, that they are going to get hurt and their bikes are going to get hurt, the reality of it all can bite down really hard.

Its a bit like the Dakar in that respect: Everyone wants to be able to say they have done it, but very, very few even get to the start, fewer still finish.

If there was no Baja event this year, undoubtedly there would have been more entrants.
If there was no minimum entry requirement,       there would have been more entrants.
If it cost less,                                                    there would have been more entrants.
If it (put your own reason in here)                      there would have been more entrants.

The nice thing about this is that only a few of us, precious few, are going to be riding the best part of the Southern African desert, in what could be argued to be the toughest rally in Africa. Some of us will be riding for a FREE ticket to compete in the Dakar itself.

All of us except for one will not get that ticket to the Dakar, but we will have gone that much further than 50 million South Africans in the endeavor to get there.

So for me, it's a one in 1,430,000 opportunity. :ricky:

That finisher medal will mean that much more - to me anyway. To have the honour to suffer along with 36 other guys and hopefully overcome the challenge...I love it.

I will also have 36 riders and perhaps another 15 officials who will be much closer friends - brethren even - afterwards.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Scrat on September 19, 2016, 12:40:40 pm
 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Well said BB!!!

I will be there with you ... working hard for that finishers medal!!  O0 :pot: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Jan Sand on September 19, 2016, 04:54:32 pm
Sean, its not that surprising to me.

Lets face the facts ladies & gentlemen: Rally is simply not everyone's cup of tea. Its also a tough year financially for many of us.

More importantly, you have to be a masochistic sob who does not mind not sleeping less than than 3-4hrs/night, and riding all day, everyday in hostile conditions, completely alone 90% of the time.

I think a lot of the guys who do enter, enter looking at the thing through rose-tinted glasses. When they find out its actually a hard grind to finish just one leg, and that it also costs bit of money, that they are going to get hurt and their bikes are going to get hurt, the reality of it all can bite down really hard.

Its a bit like the Dakar in that respect: Everyone wants to be able to say they have done it, but very, very few even get to the start, fewer still finish.

If there was no Baja event this year, undoubtedly there would have been more entrants.
If there was no minimum entry requirement,       there would have been more entrants.
If it cost less,                                                    there would have been more entrants.
If it (put your own reason in here)                      there would have been more entrants.

The nice thing about this is that only a few of us, precious few, are going to be riding the best part of the Southern African desert, in what could be argued to be the toughest rally in Africa. Some of us will be riding for a FREE ticket to compete in the Dakar itself.

All of us except for one will not get that ticket to the Dakar, but we will have gone that much further than 50 million South Africans in the endeavor to get there.

So for me, it's a one in 1,430,000 opportunity. :ricky:

That finisher medal will mean that much more - to me anyway. To have the honour to suffer along with 36 other guys and hopefully overcome the challenge...I love it.

I will also have 36 riders and perhaps another 15 officials who will be much closer friends - brethren even - afterwards.




Thats all true MR BlueBull. As this might be the last one for some time, those of us partaking in this en-devour will feel much more than pride just to take part. Having that finishers medal on the shelf will mean so much more this year. It is true that Rally racing is not for everyone, but it is one of the most satisfying sports I have ever taken part in...For me it is the most challenging motorbike adventure out there...and I am sure that all will give their best.

Just a question...hopefully we will become such good friends that you will considder riding at the back with me to help with NAV and some good company....? :imaposer:

 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Ross Riddle on September 19, 2016, 05:31:47 pm
Jan,
I think there maybe a few of us at the back becoming good friends and motivating each other to make it to the end. Small goals everyday and ticking the boxes👍🏻
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 19, 2016, 08:31:12 pm
I was thinking about it and.....not to be negative or anything like that but even if I don't get the finisher's I'll still be so stoked to do it. I will be super miffed if I don't finish the first stage though.

Jan Sand: I doubt you will be slower than me anyway! ;D Regardless, Ross is right. :thumleft:

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JAmBer on September 21, 2016, 09:38:25 am
Reading the regs, I see mention of a 50mm red reflector on the back of the bikes/helmets. I don't recall needing this last year. Anyone making a plan for the little bikes? What about red reflective tape on the back of the helmet?
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Post by: Cracker on September 21, 2016, 11:47:37 am
I was thinking about it and.....not to be negative or anything like that but even if I don't get the finisher's I'll still be so stoked to do it. I will be super miffed if I don't finish the first stage though.

Jan Sand: I doubt you will be slower than me anyway! ;D Regardless, Ross is right. :thumleft:



2014 - I was nearly out on day 1 - had an electrical problem that stranded me. if it wasn't for the help of a few others, most notably LoopSoosStroop, I would never have finished that day. AND would have missed out on ALL the other days.

It was a simple problem to fix at the bivvy but out in the deep, hot sand, it was another ball game. Heat, confusion, lack of water and fuel all got to me.

But, most of all, it was my attitude that it would be a breeze coz I was on an indestructible bike doing only 250kms, that got me. Everything went wrong and the rest of the trip was all about survival.

Murphy is big out there, boys. And he's gonna get you - so be prepared.

Other than that, have a blast  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on September 22, 2016, 11:12:06 am
Rob I think that was the 2nd best day of my short riding career.  It was lots of fun tow-starting that KLR.

Best day was Amageza 2014 day 3, Richtersveld stage. That was epic riding.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JAmBer on September 22, 2016, 11:51:44 am
Confirmation from Alex... red reflective tape on the back of the helmet is ok in place of a reflector.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on September 22, 2016, 01:42:14 pm
I was thinking about it and.....not to be negative or anything like that but even if I don't get the finisher's I'll still be so stoked to do it. I will be super miffed if I don't finish the first stage though.

Jan Sand: I doubt you will be slower than me anyway! ;D Regardless, Ross is right. :thumleft:



2014 - I was nearly out on day 1 - had an electrical problem that stranded me. if it wasn't for the help of a few others, most notably LoopSoosStroop, I would never have finished that day. AND would have missed out on ALL the other days.



It was a simple problem to fix at the bivvy but out in the deep, hot sand, it was another ball game. Heat, confusion, lack of water and fuel all got to me.

But, most of all, it was my attitude that it would be a breeze coz I was on an indestructible bike doing only 250kms, that got me. Everything went wrong and the rest of the trip was all about survival.

Murphy is big out there, boys. And he's gonna get you - so be prepared.

Other than that, have a blast  :thumleft: :thumleft:


Well done Boyz

I would be chuffed just to get a start ;)

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 22, 2016, 04:03:44 pm
Jamber - Thanks boet :thumleft:

I think its worthwhile folloing the rules to the letter. I (actually Steve) has gone through great pain and suffering to get working indicator lights installed on my bike. I'm really bummed I had to do it because no self-respecting rally bike has any, but for the Amageza its a rule and a rule is to be followed on pain not not being allowed to start. :deal:



Alexander mentioned on his vliesbook page that he thinks this year's route is going to be the best one ever.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on September 23, 2016, 09:32:38 am
I must say all the Amageza's had EPIC routes. Every year, every stage.

BlueBull you asked why there is so little entries this year. And you missed the elephant in the room. THE ROADBOOK.

It took all the fun out of an expensive ride for many riders. Even though the roadbook was at fault many times, Michael Kinnear and Gillian Dykes refused to cancel my penalty. I had a stage win and a 3rd place and was hoping for a top 10 finish.

I really really really want to enter, but hate it to be the "moangat". Again.  ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: noble steed on September 23, 2016, 10:41:11 am
Interesting observation....

Amageza 2015 entry list was 86 strong....
Amageza 2016 entry list is 37 strong....

Only 17 riders from 2015 is doing 2016. 20 New riders or riders who skipped a year and returned....

Question?
 Are there really only 17 returnees?

I will be watching the race progress and feeling sad to not be there...

2015 was a lot shorter than I had planned for, but got valuable experience through my DNF to use on future races.

For me, financially I spent double my planned budget, it will take 2-3 years to recoup that and be able to afford another entry, hopefully this isn't the last Amageza... I think other riders may be in the same boat, though I'm sure some first-time riders did just get a huge shock and decide rallying is more than they expected.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on September 23, 2016, 12:02:43 pm
By way of light relief - it's good thing we're not racing in the Russian tundra!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsdQBuo2OEY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsdQBuo2OEY)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 23, 2016, 12:04:35 pm
I must say all the Amageza's had EPIC routes. Every year, every stage.

BlueBull you asked why there is so little entries this year. And you missed the elephant in the room. THE ROADBOOK.

It took all the fun out of an expensive ride for many riders. Even though the roadbook was at fault many times, Michael Kinnear and Gillian Dykes refused to cancel my penalty. I had a stage win and a 3rd place and was hoping for a top 10 finish.

I really really really want to enter, but hate it to be the "moangat". Again.  ;D

The ROADBOOK was not great last year, but people still got through to the finish, including you. Not sure about the penalties, who remembers those anyway? Its not like the organization cheated you out of a top ten was it? Were they really being spiteful to you? Why do you mention their names? Are you perhaps trying to throw them under a bus? I hope not....

I don't know the Kinnear guy, he is from MSA anyway, but Gillian always makes decisions in an impartial manner. You may disagree but that and the RB is a pretty poor excuse for not re-entering this year. Rather just tell us you are retired.. or cant afford it  ;D

Did you really deserve it? Only you will know. Who can take a stage win away from you? You know you were the fastest that day don't you? To me that is was is important.

Is it a major issue that you did not come 3rd or 10th? No, not really.

I guess what you should do is to prove you are that good by showing us in another Amageza rally. :deal: :ricky:  Then you will have really earned our respect. You'd become another David Casteau. A guy who only got 3rd on the Dakar once, and arguably should have won it 8 times, but finished far less, crashed out, was ruled out, was penalized out, whose bike broke, but did not stop coming back or more. Why? because it wasn't easy, it was the CHALLENGE.

Otherwise I might come 3rd in your place! :laughing7:

The ROADBOOK in the Baja was apparently brilliant. Alexander has committed to getting it right for the Amageza this year, and I think he will. Would be a shame to have you miss out on this one for such a  silly reason, Chris. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 23, 2016, 12:15:16 pm
I will be watching the race progress and feeling sad to not be there...

2015 was a lot shorter than I had planned for, but got valuable experience through my DNF to use on future races.

For me, financially I spent double my planned budget, it will take 2-3 years to recoup that and be able to afford another entry, hopefully this isn't the last Amageza... I think other riders may be in the same boat, though I'm sure some first-time riders did just get a huge shock and decide rallying is more than they expected.

Bliksem noble steed, we have the upmost respect for your efforts! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :salut: Its guys like you that those of us watching cheer on, staying up into the early hours of the morning to watch your trackers, hoping against all odds you might somehow be able to press on. And even if you don't it does not detract from the effort.

Its not the fast guys and winners who are the heroes, its the ones who battle bravely on -despite everything- at the back of the field, riding churned up tracks in the heat of the late afternoon with no water.

If there is any way I can help you get to or through the next Amageza you do, please ping me. :deal:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: SteveD on September 23, 2016, 01:27:45 pm
I really really really want to enter.....

Please enter, Chris. Pretty please.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on September 23, 2016, 01:47:10 pm
I really really really want to enter.....

Please enter, Chris. Pretty please.
Do it ! Chris .
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Kreef on September 23, 2016, 02:52:29 pm
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: noble steed on September 23, 2016, 04:20:33 pm
I will be watching the race progress and feeling sad to not be there...

2015 was a lot shorter than I had planned for, but got valuable experience through my DNF to use on future races.

For me, financially I spent double my planned budget, it will take 2-3 years to recoup that and be able to afford another entry, hopefully this isn't the last Amageza... I think other riders may be in the same boat, though I'm sure some first-time riders did just get a huge shock and decide rallying is more than they expected.

Bliksem noble steed, we have the upmost respect for your efforts! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: :salut: Its guys like you that those of us watching cheer on, staying up into the early hours of the morning to watch your trackers, hoping against all odds you might somehow be able to press on. And even if you don't it does not detract from the effort.

Its not the fast guys and winners who are the heroes, its the ones who battle bravely on -despite everything- at the back of the field, riding churned up tracks in the heat of the late afternoon with no water.

If there is any way I can help you get to or through the next Amageza you do, please ping me. :deal:

Budget should be on track for 2017 West Coast, assuming there is a 2017 West Coast...

Finish that, take things from there!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 23, 2016, 05:04:49 pm
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:

Best thing to do is to chat to Alexander. :thumleft:

Can never have enough IMHO.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on September 23, 2016, 05:26:59 pm
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:

Best thing to do is to chat to Alexander. :thumleft:

Can never have enough IMHO.

But I thought you knew everything about rallying
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on September 23, 2016, 05:55:56 pm
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:

Best thing to do is to chat to Alexander. :thumleft:

Can never have enough IMHO.

Sean Kriel is in charge of marshal recruitment.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 23, 2016, 08:00:14 pm
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:

Best thing to do is to chat to Alexander. :thumleft:

Can never have enough IMHO.

But I thought you knew everything about rallying

Sorry I'm just passionate about the subject and I suppose all my comments are coming accross as cute. I'll shut up now. ::) You take over from here :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: AlexRG on September 25, 2016, 09:39:19 pm
The West Coast Baja roadbook was 110% correct and had zero issues... if that is anything to go by then the Amageza 2016 roadbook will be good too.

Everyone thinking of still entering should do it!!! No draadsitters... Kom Chris... jy weet jy wil die RFR450 gas gee!

Do it!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on September 26, 2016, 02:58:53 am
Does anyone know if they still need volunteers / marshals?  :scratch:

Kreef - PM me your details.... I am the crew chief - we can chat about a maybe spot - or put you on standby....

S
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on September 28, 2016, 06:10:02 am
From Camelman himself:

Good morning guys!

Please see below points regarding the upcoming 2016 Amageza Rallye:

Parking for the week: Their will be safe parking available indoors at Upington Show grounds from 07 November to 11 November for competitors wishing to leave cars or trailers. The cost will be R100 per item. For example: A car on its own will be R100, with trailer will be R200 for the duration.
Satellite phones: There will be extremely scarce cellphone reception during the race. Cellphone reception is only available around towns and bigger villages. It is advisable to rent a satellite phone from Sat4Rent. They have partnered with us to give you better rates. Please contact Nerine at nerine@sat4rent.co.za to book your phone.
Malle Moto: There are still places available for the Malle Moto Cup.
Welcome:Stage 1 Roadbooks & Briefing: 05 November at 19:00. Venue to be confirmed next week.
Documentation, Scrutineering and Stage 1: 06 November from 07:00, Upington Showgrounds. All on the same day. Your allocated times will be sent to you via email. Briefing & Roadbooks for Stage 1 will be dealt with during Scrutineering. Stage 1 will take the form of a Super Special of 60km. The SS will start at 13:00.
Tire & Mousse Partner: We welcome the addition of Super Moose who will be our official Tire and Mousse partner for 2016. They will have a workshop in each bivouac including Upington where they will change mousses and tires for R150 per wheel. Malle Moto Competitors get their changes for free. You can place your orders for Mousses with Nico Pienaar at +27(0)726236148 or nicp@activemetals.co.za.
Entry Form :  Please complete your online entry form, if you haven't done so yet. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdLfmDO6kmoWg4c2gT6NPxVmnrGClATfEEevPM85axDdGelfg/viewform
Competitor Profile Picture: You have the opportunity to profile yourself and your sponsors through your profile picture on the amagezarallye.com website. Image specifications: Size: 750px(W) x 550px(H). Format: Landscape. Type: JPG. Size: Less than 500kb. Use this space to LOOK AWESOME and give your sponsors some visibility. Please send this to entry@amageza.com. Make sure you name the photo. (NameSurname.jpg)
A red reflective sticker is acceptable on the back of your helmet. The idea is that in low light and dusty conditions the competitor behind you should see your red sticker on the back of your helmet in his head-light, should your tail-light fail or not exist, and not tailgate you by mistake!
Discounted Entry Fee: The discounted entry fee will stay in effect till 30 September (in 3 days!). This price is cheaper than the discounted loyalty entry fee.  On 1 October, pricing will increase, and the loyalty discount will be in effect.
I will be out in the sticks finalizing the route, so please forward all your questions to entry@amageza.com. Marie-Louise will make sure I attend to whatever is required when I get back in communication.

Please invite a friend.  If you are 1 of the guys still deciding if you're entering or not....please enter.  Your entry matters.

All the best with your final planning. Lets make this the best race ever!

Cheers,

Alexander
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Myrtle on September 30, 2016, 04:50:38 pm
Hi


Can anybody recommend a route reasonable close to JHB that we can get some proper sand riding in? The pongola route would be perfect but hoping to get something a bit closer. We have done the botswana fence run and met somebody who might have helped us with a ride in the botswana dunes but this has not materialised. Any suggestions and help would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 30, 2016, 08:17:01 pm
I am looking for a lift for me and my bike to the start and back from the finish of the Amageza. Happy to split fuel costs, traveling etc. Anyone willing to help? Failing that I will have a training ride to Upington. ;D


Myrtle, I am putting together a riverbed section in the Mokopane area, if that works. I would like to give it a run in about 2 weeks time. Its going to be a 500-600km day from Bela Bela.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Grolls on September 30, 2016, 08:57:06 pm
.... jealous
Would have joined you on this one Neil 👍
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: subie on October 01, 2016, 07:00:13 am
Hi


Can anybody recommend a route reasonable close to JHB that we can get some proper sand riding in? The pongola route would be perfect but hoping to get something a bit closer. We have done the botswana fence run and met somebody who might have helped us with a ride in the botswana dunes but this has not materialised. Any suggestions and help would be appreciated.




Hello Myrtle
I am replying on this thread as I could not post the gdb file with a pm. This is from Zeerust to Bray going through Miga and not Mafeking. It is 280 km  long. There is some sandy bits but not much. After Miga about 5km of sandy tweespoor. Then again about 40km before Bray is also sandy. As you know those roads are more about surfing the bits of sand at 140km/h +. I tried to not exceed 140km/h on my bike to prevent damage and not strain my motor. Fuel consumption down from 21km/L to 16 on my XT660R on these roads. After Makgobistad there is a 40km piece of tar road but after that the roads is lovely just to let your bike run.
From Miga to Makgobistad is not fast riding area. Be carefull I have had lots of animals sometimes on this stretch. There is one gate in the sandy bit after Miga. Remember if you ride back in the morning the sun is directly in your eyes making it hard to spot the odd kudu next to the road. If you must go through Mafeking there is a road that has got a bit more sand to bray,also nice high speed stuff.Will post that track tonight.
I have run from Van Zylsrus to home twice in one day without riding in the dark along this area. Just cutting out the Makgobistad - Miga bit but straight from Makgobistad to Mafeking. For me that is just ride stopping only for petrol. Very satisfying rides.

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: luckyloo on October 03, 2016, 07:35:36 am
Hi All....last minute entry done !!  Looking forward once again.  I'm sure this will be the best biking event ever.  I have a complete rally bike standing in my garage but decided last minute I'm converting my 2016 wr450 to a rally light spec.   Front tank ordered from safari.    Anybody have any rear tank or belly pan tank lying around which can be converted to fit this bike?

Good luck with the nerves and all the prep works.  See y'all on the starting line.....
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Scrat on October 03, 2016, 08:46:45 am
 :thumleft:
Hi All....last minute entry done !!  Looking forward once again.  I'm sure this will be the best biking event ever.  I have a complete rally bike standing in my garage but decided last minute I'm converting my 2016 wr450 to a rally light spec.   Front tank ordered from safari.    Anybody have any rear tank or belly pan tank lying around which can be converted to fit this bike?

Good luck with the nerves and all the prep works.  See y'all on the starting line.....

Nice one!!

Yip - time is running out... quick!!!

will see you there!! good luck with the preps!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on October 04, 2016, 07:15:19 pm
Amagza entry list is growing slowly.... Whoop Whoop -

We a month away from departure... can't wait anymore - guys I hope you have stamina! You going to need it....

Good Luck with final preps and training!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on October 04, 2016, 11:40:04 pm
I am looking for a lift for me and my bike to the start and back from the finish of the Amageza. Happy to split fuel costs, traveling etc. Anyone willing to help? Failing that I will have a training ride to Upington. ;D






Alex RG or Garth might be close to you.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on October 05, 2016, 10:46:53 am
I am looking for a lift for me and my bike to the start and back from the finish of the Amageza. Happy to split fuel costs, traveling etc. Anyone willing to help? Failing that I will have a training ride to Upington. ;D




Dutchie - there is a package availabe on Amageza for competitor transport up and down.... if you take that I will put you in our van and we have lots to share... biers, brandy etc... lol
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Myrtle on October 05, 2016, 05:16:26 pm
I am looking for a lift for me and my bike to the start and back from the finish of the Amageza. Happy to split fuel costs, traveling etc. Anyone willing to help? Failing that I will have a training ride to Upington. ;D


Myrtle, I am putting together a riverbed section in the Mokopane area, if that works. I would like to give it a run in about 2 weeks time. Its going to be a 500-600km day from Bela Bela.

Hi Neil


Thank you but the run is a 1 week to late for us. Good luck for the Amageza :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Myrtle on October 05, 2016, 05:20:02 pm
Hi


Can anybody recommend a route reasonable close to JHB that we can get some proper sand riding in? The pongola route would be perfect but hoping to get something a bit closer. We have done the botswana fence run and met somebody who might have helped us with a ride in the botswana dunes but this has not materialised. Any suggestions and help would be appreciated.




Hello Myrtle
I am replying on this thread as I could not post the gdb file with a pm. This is from Zeerust to Bray going through Miga and not Mafeking. It is 280 km  long. There is some sandy bits but not much. After Miga about 5km of sandy tweespoor. Then again about 40km before Bray is also sandy. As you know those roads are more about surfing the bits of sand at 140km/h +. I tried to not exceed 140km/h on my bike to prevent damage and not strain my motor. Fuel consumption down from 21km/L to 16 on my XT660R on these roads. After Makgobistad there is a 40km piece of tar road but after that the roads is lovely just to let your bike run.
From Miga to Makgobistad is not fast riding area. Be carefull I have had lots of animals sometimes on this stretch. There is one gate in the sandy bit after Miga. Remember if you ride back in the morning the sun is directly in your eyes making it hard to spot the odd kudu next to the road. If you must go through Mafeking there is a road that has got a bit more sand to bray,also nice high speed stuff.Will post that track tonight.
I have run from Van Zylsrus to home twice in one day without riding in the dark along this area. Just cutting out the Makgobistad - Miga bit but straight from Makgobistad to Mafeking. For me that is just ride stopping only for petrol. Very satisfying rides.


Hi Subie - Thank you. Had a look. If not now then definately after Amageza as soon as i have duel sport bike again.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 05, 2016, 07:00:52 pm
Thanks guys, my lifted is sorted. T9er has kindly offered me a lift. :thumleft:
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Post by: Grolls on October 06, 2016, 05:49:42 am
Thanks guys, my lifted is sorted. T9er has kindly offered me a lift. :thumleft:
The conversation in that vehicle needs to be recorded and posted on social media

Enjoy the trip boys
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Post by: Camelman on October 06, 2016, 07:41:02 am
Guys. Make sure you have enough water. Yesterday on the route it hit 38 degrees. Not a problem when you're riding or a medivac, but BIG problem if you are waiting for the sweep because your trusty steed left you! See distances in updates SR's online. Distances on page 22. Note stage 5 & 6 distances and plan accordingly for your tires. Read the notes above distance table for where on stage 6 you can change tires.

Make sure you ride with a spanner for your rear wheel as well as wire-cutters. I wrapped wire around my rear sprocket 3 times on one stage. The last time the wire managed to get between the brake calipers. I could not get it out without a rear wheel spanner and rode 60km special with vertically no rear brake. Not much fun in the dark!

I have lots of respect for the guys last year that finished a couple of specials in the dark! You guys were ysters!!

PS: Big thanks to the guys still entering. We really appreciate it!!   :thumleft:
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Post by: gser on October 06, 2016, 09:44:22 am
Thanks guys, my lifted is sorted. T9er has kindly offered me a lift. :thumleft:
Great to hear that you are sorted BB !
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Post by: CDog on October 08, 2016, 01:29:58 pm
I'll leave this here for anyone interested. :ricky:


http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200250.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200250.0)
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Post by: tehdutchie on October 09, 2016, 08:45:45 pm
I am looking for a lift for me and my bike to the start and back from the finish of the Amageza. Happy to split fuel costs, traveling etc. Anyone willing to help? Failing that I will have a training ride to Upington. ;D




Dutchie - there is a package availabe on Amageza for competitor transport up and down.... if you take that I will put you in our van and we have lots to share... biers, brandy etc... lol

Tempting tempting tempting...

Hooking up with another CT crowd to get me to the start and back though  :biggrin: ;D Claude and Gerrit have a record of finishing so I expect them to take me back in 1 piece too  :imaposer:
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Post by: Jan Sand on October 12, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
Good day Everyone.
Now this is something that has troubled me, and maybe someone can shed some light on the matter. I got terribly lost on the Baja this year. I tried to go to the nearest waypoint, but when i got there, had no idea where on the road book i was....so...again I was lost. Could someone please help me understand how the waypoint helps at all if they are not numbered on the road book? Say if you should get lost, go to waypoint 1 on the gps, and that will take you to waypoint 1 on the road book and you could continue on the road book from there. This just makes a lot of sense to me. I know this might sound stupid....but stupid will ask questions so stupid dont be stupid anymore :imaposer:
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Post by: bonova on October 12, 2016, 03:56:50 pm
Good day Everyone.
Now this is something that has troubled me, and maybe someone can shed some light on the matter. I got terribly lost on the Baja this year. I tried to go to the nearest waypoint, but when i got there, had no idea where on the road book i was....so...again I was lost. Could someone please help me understand how the waypoint helps at all if they are not numbered on the road book? Say if you should get lost, go to waypoint 1 on the gps, and that will take you to waypoint 1 on the road book and you could continue on the road book from there. This just makes a lot of sense to me. I know this might sound stupid....but stupid will ask questions so stupid dont be stupid anymore :imaposer:

When you fill in the waypoints on ur GPS you number them....and obviously YOU number it on your mapbook at the same time ;) (I actually number them when I mark the map and then I go through it after and check the GPS and the Map are the same)
Then you know - on the GPS waypoint 8.... and scroll to get to that point (as you said). then take cap reading into account if necessary and off you go
So the just is - you number it yourself with your own method ;)
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Post by: Jan Sand on October 12, 2016, 04:54:50 pm
Good day Everyone.
Now this is something that has troubled me, and maybe someone can shed some light on the matter. I got terribly lost on the Baja this year. I tried to go to the nearest waypoint, but when i got there, had no idea where on the road book i was....so...again I was lost. Could someone please help me understand how the waypoint helps at all if they are not numbered on the road book? Say if you should get lost, go to waypoint 1 on the gps, and that will take you to waypoint 1 on the road book and you could continue on the road book from there. This just makes a lot of sense to me. I know this might sound stupid....but stupid will ask questions so stupid dont be stupid anymore :imaposer:

When you fill in the waypoints on ur GPS you number them....and obviously YOU number it on your mapbook at the same time ;) (I actually number them when I mark the map and then I go through it after and check the GPS and the Map are the same)



Then you know - on the GPS waypoint 8.... and scroll to get to that point (as you said). then take cap reading into account if necessary and off you go
So the just is - you number it yourself with your own method ;)






Thats all good...but on the Baja they gave you the waypoints pre loaded the morning before you left. And Im not sure if they were in numerical order....will it be different this time?
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Post by: luckyloo on October 12, 2016, 09:11:05 pm
whenever you get lost, scroll down the roadbook to see the next visible waypoint on your roadbook, from the point where you got lost.  put in those co-ordinates on gps and follow bearing to get to that waypoint.  when you get there, reset your trip meter to match that on the roadbook at the tulip where the waypoint is, and continue on rb nav.  I find that easier than preloading all the waypoints as you are normally relatively close to the waypoint so you only have to change a couple of digits on your gps from the position you find yourself at that stage.....and supposedly also don't get lost at every waypoint....
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Post by: White Rhino on October 13, 2016, 05:23:02 am
whenever you get lost, scroll down the roadbook to see the next visible waypoint on your roadbook, from the point where you got lost.  put in those co-ordinates on gps and follow bearing to get to that waypoint.  when you get there, reset your trip meter to match that on the roadbook at the tulip where the waypoint is, and continue on rb nav.  I find that easier than preloading all the waypoints as you are normally relatively close to the waypoint so you only have to change a couple of digits on your gps from the position you find yourself at that stage.....and supposedly also don't get lost at every waypoint....
Would work most of the time I guess, but you're not supposed to have maps loaded on your GPS and could prove tricky when there are multiple road / paths.
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Post by: Cracker on October 13, 2016, 08:05:01 am
No maps - follows a bearing
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Post by: _ah_ on October 13, 2016, 09:27:15 am
whenever you get lost, scroll down the roadbook to see the next visible waypoint on your roadbook, from the point where you got lost.  put in those co-ordinates on gps and follow bearing to get to that waypoint.  when you get there, reset your trip meter to match that on the roadbook at the tulip where the waypoint is, and continue on rb nav.  I find that easier than preloading all the waypoints as you are normally relatively close to the waypoint so you only have to change a couple of digits on your gps from the position you find yourself at that stage.....and supposedly also don't get lost at every waypoint....

Makes sense - only if the GPS coordinates for each waypoint tulip will be part of the printed roadbook or will be handed out at the briefing (the night before).  But it does not seem to be a given, unless I'm missing something?  ???
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Post by: SteveD on October 13, 2016, 12:29:57 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200303.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200303.0)
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Post by: gser on October 13, 2016, 03:04:13 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200303.0 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200303.0)
Lekker SteveD
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Cracker on October 13, 2016, 05:38:08 pm
whenever you get lost, scroll down the roadbook to see the next visible waypoint on your roadbook, from the point where you got lost.  put in those co-ordinates on gps and follow bearing to get to that waypoint.  when you get there, reset your trip meter to match that on the roadbook at the tulip where the waypoint is, and continue on rb nav.  I find that easier than preloading all the waypoints as you are normally relatively close to the waypoint so you only have to change a couple of digits on your gps from the position you find yourself at that stage.....and supposedly also don't get lost at every waypoint....

Makes sense - only if the GPS coordinates for each waypoint tulip will be part of the printed roadbook or will be handed out at the briefing (the night before).  But it does not seem to be a given, unless I'm missing something?  ???


_ah_ think you're missing something. Perhaps you need to be shown how it works - then you'll see. It's not difficult at all.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on October 14, 2016, 01:40:15 pm
I bring the latest MSA circular to your attention. This applies to all forms of MSA-sanctioned motorsport.


On the grounds of safety, MSA is hereby outlawing the fitment of cameras or other recording devices on the person of any competitor. Such devices may therefore not be fitted to the crash helmet or rider/driver’s body.

In the 2017 general competition rules, GCR 124 (currently reserved) will be worded as follows:

GCR 124:    CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES

No camera or recording device may be fitted to the crash helmet or anywhere on the body of any competitor.  Offenders shall not be permitted to take part in the event until such time as the area of non-compliance is rectified.

Issued on behalf of Wayne Riddell - MSA Sporting Services Manager
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Post by: seankriel on October 14, 2016, 01:57:35 pm
I bring the latest MSA circular to your attention. This applies to all forms of MSA-sanctioned motorsport.


On the grounds of safety, MSA is hereby outlawing the fitment of cameras or other recording devices on the person of any competitor. Such devices may therefore not be fitted to the crash helmet or rider/driver’s body.

In the 2017 general competition rules, GCR 124 (currently reserved) will be worded as follows:

GCR 124:    CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES

No camera or recording device may be fitted to the crash helmet or anywhere on the body of any competitor.  Offenders shall not be permitted to take part in the event until such time as the area of non-compliance is rectified.

Issued on behalf of Wayne Riddell - MSA Sporting Services Manager


That is SAD!! but understandable..

Does this mean you can ride with a selfie stick? if you dare?? Lol
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on October 14, 2016, 01:58:25 pm
Saw that as well !
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Jan Sand on October 14, 2016, 07:43:29 pm
I bring the latest MSA circular to your attention. This applies to all forms of MSA-sanctioned motorsport.


On the grounds of safety, MSA is hereby outlawing the fitment of cameras or other recording devices on the person of any competitor. Such devices may therefore not be fitted to the crash helmet or rider/driver’s body.

In the 2017 general competition rules, GCR 124 (currently reserved) will be worded as follows:

GCR 124:    CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES

No camera or recording device may be fitted to the crash helmet or anywhere on the body of any competitor.  Offenders shall not be permitted to take part in the event until such time as the area of non-compliance is rectified.

Issued on behalf of Wayne Riddell - MSA Sporting Services Manager


Does that count for the Amageza as well, or is only as from 2017?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on October 14, 2016, 08:09:49 pm
Jan , kyk uit vir die volgende Amageza nuusbrief, daar sal sekerlik duidelikheid daaroor wees. Sovere as wat ek bewus is, is Amageza direkteur en kie  bewus van MSA se brief daaroor.
My gedagte is dat dit onmiddelik van krag is.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: luckyloo on October 14, 2016, 10:33:52 pm
Dit klink bietjie baie fucked up in my opinie,   maar dis nie Amageza nie, dis MSA.  Wetie van safety risk af nie....miskien Liability risk....
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Post by: Bluefish on October 15, 2016, 08:10:12 am
Hi Guys

I will have to skip this year's Amageza due to a work contract in East Africa. Came through last minute. 😥

If there are any fence sitters still looking to enter, my entry is up for sale (obviously at a reduced price). Talk to me.

Willem
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: gser on October 15, 2016, 10:27:59 am
Eish Willem !
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Post by: Bluefish on October 15, 2016, 11:52:08 am
Mixed emotions. Been a tough year and finally I get a decent contract, but at a cost of not doing the Amageza. My highlight of the year and having to pass so close to the time. And the fittest I've been out of three Amagezas!
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Post by: Kevin_ZA on October 15, 2016, 03:12:50 pm
Dit klink bietjie baie fucked up in my opinie,   maar dis nie Amageza nie, dis MSA.  Wetie van safety risk af nie....miskien Liability risk....
I recall someone crashing on tbe 2013 Amageza and posting a pic of his helmet with a big hole in it.....thanks to a Gopro.
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Post by: Crossed-up on October 15, 2016, 04:25:22 pm
Dit klink bietjie baie fucked up in my opinie,   maar dis nie Amageza nie, dis MSA.  Wetie van safety risk af nie....miskien Liability risk....
I recall someone crashing on tbe 2013 Amageza and posting a pic of his helmet with a big hole in it.....thanks to a Gopro.

Ja, that was Jan Niederhumer's Suomy. He gave me that helmet and I loved it until I crashed and broke it properly. But it saved my life.

I've written to MSA for clarity on when the prohibition comes into force.
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Post by: seankriel on October 17, 2016, 07:42:50 am
Hi Guys

I will have to skip this year's Amageza due to a work contract in East Africa. Came through last minute. 😥

If there are any fence sitters still looking to enter, my entry is up for sale (obviously at a reduced price). Talk to me.

Willem

Ai Ai Bluefish! Gaan jou mis op die start line elke dag! Sterkte met die kontrak!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on October 17, 2016, 08:45:04 am
For what it's worth MSA have confirmed that the "no cameras on body or helmet" rule is in immediate effect. This is a bit of a blow, but there it is.
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Post by: luckyloo on October 17, 2016, 09:58:19 am
Mixed emotions. Been a tough year and finally I get a decent contract, but at a cost of not doing the Amageza. My highlight of the year and having to pass so close to the time. And the fittest I've been out of three Amagezas!

Ai Blouvis en jy het amper eerste ingeskryf.....sterkte ou maat!!
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Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 17, 2016, 10:24:35 am
Sorry to hear Bluefish. We will be missing your pace.

@ Crossed up: FWIW they frown on the use of helmet cams on the Dakar too, so maybe it was a hand-me-down from the FIM. Does not stop peeps from using them though.

You can get bar mounts as well. :deal:
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Post by: Jan Sand on October 17, 2016, 12:01:29 pm
Think it might also have to do with guys having a serious off and getting seriously hurt and not making it...those always end up on youtube and its not good for the sport....Handle bar mount...here we come...
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Post by: JustBendIt on October 17, 2016, 12:44:34 pm
A helmet mounted camera is responsible for the vegetative state that Michael Schumacher is in as a result of a skiing accident in December 2013 - there has been no news of his condition since 2014 - I assume that he is totally brain dead and being kept alive by machines

He stopped on the edge of a slope while waiting for friends to catch up to him and lost his balance and fell over - just over 1 story high

The camera punctured the helmet and gave him serious brain damage

7 times world F1 champion taken out by a Go Pro - if it could happen to him then it could easily happen to anybody

Wear and use these things at your own peril - personally I think they are a load of shit
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BV on October 18, 2016, 09:04:17 am
Sorry to hear Bluefish. We will be missing your pace.

@ Crossed up: FWIW they frown on the use of helmet cams on the Dakar too, so maybe it was a hand-me-down from the FIM. Does not stop peeps from using them though.

You can get bar mounts as well. :deal:

Just for interest.
In Dakar you do not have to wear a neck brace.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on October 18, 2016, 09:34:55 am
Sorry to hear Bluefish. We will be missing your pace.

@ Crossed up: FWIW they frown on the use of helmet cams on the Dakar too, so maybe it was a hand-me-down from the FIM. Does not stop peeps from using them though.

You can get bar mounts as well. :deal:

Just for interest.
In Dakar you do not have to wear a neck brace.

But you are well advised to ... remember what happened to Elmer Symonds
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 19, 2016, 06:46:32 am
BV, I don't understand the point you are trying to make?
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Crossed-up on October 19, 2016, 10:11:09 am
This is Amageza. Much of the format and rules are similar to Dakar, and many other navigational rallies, but it is its own race, with its own format and its own rules, and is not beholden to any other event, only to FIM and MSA.

Alexander Nel started Amageza, owns it 100% and runs it 100%. 

It's not Dakar, and is never obliged to adhere to any Dakar rules.


I've just been speaking to him, helping him find suitable tracks. He's out in the gamadoelas, alone in his Jeep, finalising the routes and preparing the roadbook. Yesterday was 13 hours of bouncing about for 4 hours of your riding pleasure! Today should be a little shorter, but perhaps not.
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Post by: seankriel on October 19, 2016, 10:16:46 am
This is Amageza. Much of the format and rules are similar to Dakar, and many other navigational rallies, but it is its own race, with its own format and its own rules, and is not beholden to any other event, only to FIM and MSA.

Alexander Nel started Amageza, owns it 100% and runs it 100%. 

It's not Dakar, and is never obliged to adhere to any Dakar rules.


I've just been speaking to him, helping him find suitable tracks. He's out in the gamadoelas, alone in his Jeep, finalising the routes and preparing the roadbook. Yesterday was 13 hours of bouncing about for 4 hours of your riding pleasure! Today should be a little shorter, but perhaps not.


Crossed up - you and me both would love to be there with him!! lol! Alexander rocks! This year's Amageza is going to be epic. I speak to him daily as well and the routes - o boy they are .........

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Post by: BV on October 19, 2016, 12:05:38 pm
BV, I don't understand the point you are trying to make?
Nope I am all FOR neck Brace. Even my laaiti have 1.
Just something that I have seen @ Dakar.  I really thought neck braces was the rule. Sorry for any miss understanding.
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Post by: seankriel on October 19, 2016, 08:13:28 pm
Excerpt from Dakar Rally Handbook
By Charlie Rauseo
Navigation.
Navigation sets rallying apart from any other kind of racing. You will receive each day’s
rolled-up roadbook the night before that day’s start. Here are some examples of pages of Dakar
roadbooks:
On the left, the large number is the total number of kilometers into the section. The smaller
number in the left box is the number of kilometers from one item to the next. In the middle is the
“Tulip” which is a drawing showing the trail, terrain, and landmarks at that particular kilometer.
You enter each tulip drawing from the black dot at the bottom-middle of the drawing. On the
right is an observation giving more information about that tulip. The observation often uses
lexicon symbols and CAP headings, explained below.
You may have enough time to mark your roadbook with colored markers and review it
several times, but you will not have time to memorize much of the route. So, you must learn to
decipher the roadbook as you are racing. It takes months of practice to become skilled at
navigation.
The Lexicon.
Every year, the Dakar organization posts an updated list of symbols it uses in rally
roadbooks. There are usually no major changes. Here is the lexicon of symbols for the 2007
Dakar:
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Make up flash cards of the more difficult symbols and abbreviations. Practice with them until
you know them perfectly.
CAP Headings.
CAP headings are compass directions expressed digitally. East is C.90, South is C.180,
West is C.270, North is C.360 or C.0, etc. CAP headings to the right of the direction traveled are
higher in number. To the left, they are lower in number. For example, if you are traveling on
C.50, and the roadbook tells you to change to C.140, you will turn directly to your right. C.50 to
C.320 is a turn directly left. Learn to quickly pick out directions when given a CAP heading.
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Learn to know your approximate CAP heading whenever you are riding. These skills will help
you immensely when navigating. I practice a drill where I stand pointing straight ahead at an
imaginary C.90. Then I ask a friend to call out random numbers between 0 and 360 in quick
succession. I try to point at the corresponding CAP headings as rapidly as possible.
GPS in the Dakar:
In the Dakar, the GPS has very limited function. The rules change somewhat each year,
so check the rule book. Generally, the GPS will give you only your CAP heading. There is
usually no arrow pointing to a waypoint ahead. So, you navigate using three sources of
information: ICO for kilometers, GPS for CAP heading, and Roadbook for instructions.
In certain circumstances, the GPS will show an arrow directing you to the next waypoint.
This is usually only within a prescribed radius of the waypoint.
So, you must learn to navigate using the roadbook, ICO, and compass heading, without a
GPS arrow.
Navigation Strategy:
We’ve developed a few methods for approaching navigation over the years. Here are the
main points:
Pay attention to the Dangers. Dangerous sections of the trail are marked in the roadbook
with exclamation points (“!!!”). These can be holes, cliffs, big rocks, or any other hazard.
Usually, a single danger (“!”) is not a problem for motorcycles. But, a double (“!!”) or triple
(“!!!”) danger could kill you. Mark the big dangers in your roadbook. It is essential that you
prepare and slow down for these dangers, so you must scroll your roadbook and keep your ICO
accurate, even when riding in a group or following. I like to mark dangers with a dedicated
color, usually red or pink highlighter.
Navigation. I think of the roadbook as having two parts, Dangers and Navigation. As
described above, the Dangers are very important for survival. Navigation can be tricky, but
missing a turn is usually not as bad as missing a Danger point. Here are some tips on navigating
efficiently at speed:
Know your CAP headings. Great navigators will use only the CAP headings and ICO to
navigate most of the time. If you are traveling at CAP 100 and know that the next turn is to CAP
190 in 1.0 km, you do not need any more information. Just before 1.0 km, you will prepare for
and look for a right turn. If you can memorize a few turns, you can navigate this way at a very
quick pace.
Use all your clues: When navigation becomes tricky, you will need more information
than just the CAP heading and kilometer. At any time, you have 5 or more bits of information to
use: CAP heading, roadbook drawing, ICO, tracks of earlier riders, tracks of the opening car, the
rider in front of you, the organization helicopter overhead, the general description of the daily
route from the beginning of the roadbook, spectators, photographers, cars, trucks, etc. Take all
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of this information into account. Sometimes not all bits of information will agree, so weigh the
evidence and use your best guess.
You are not lost: People as whether I was often lost in the Dakar. This is hard to answer.
Often you will be fairly certain that you are going the right way, but not absolutely certain. For
example, 3 of 5 bits of information may indicate a turn onto a certain track. If you take that
track, you may be unsure that it is the correct track until the next roadbook item. You are not
lost, but you are also not 100% sure you are going the right way.
Waypoints: Throughout the day, you must pass through several waypoints. Some will be
marked in the roadbook, some will actually be checkpoints where the organization will stop you
and stamp your card, and some are hidden. You can switch your GPS to the “waypoints” screen
to see whether you have missed any waypoints. The “waypoints” GPS screen shows a series of
boxes indicating the day’s waypoints. When you pass through a waypoint, it is grayed out on
that screen. So, you should see a series of grayed out boxes. If any of the boxes is not grayed
out, you have missed that waypoint. Check the rules to decide whether it is better to go back and
get any missed waypoint or to continue and take the resulting penalty.
Use “Certain” points to set your ICO. Sometimes the roadbook will show a point that is
very certain. For example, there may be a particular intersection with road sign, or a distinctive
terrain item drawn in the roadbook such as a cliff, a well, or a uniquely shaped building. When
you pass this “Certain” point, adjust your ICO if your mileage does not match that in the
roadbook. If your ICO regularly reads too high or low at these certain points, you should adjust
your wheel circumference at the end of the day.
Safety trumps navigation. Look down at your roadbook only when it is safe to do so.
Sometimes the track is too rocky, twisty or otherwise dangerous to look down at your roadbook.
Glance down quickly to make sure there are no upcoming Dangers (marked in red or pink), but
keep your eyes on the trail if it is tricky. Memorize a few items in the roadbook to carry you
through tricky sections, or simply ride through the tricky sections and check later to see if you
missed a navigation item. You can always turn back to catch a missed turn, but you must avoid
crashing at all costs.
Mark your roadbook. The night before each day’s stage, you will have a chance to read
and mark your roadbook. Each rider develops his own method, but here are my tips: Use a
dedicated color for Dangers (red or pink.) Mark all the double and triple dangers. Navigation:
Make sure you can read the CAP headings. Write them larger or highlight them if this helps.
Use a dedicated color for turns (I use blue.) Mark only turns, and ignore items that simply tell
you to go straight. I mark the side of the roadbook with a blue stripe for particularly tricky
navigation items, telling myself to slow down and pay attention. You can also write notes to
yourself in English on the roadbook. Each night, the organization will post several changes to
the roadbook, which you must read and write into your roadbook. (The roadbook page examples
above are not very well marked. Can you see why?) Lastly, mark the side of the roadbook with
a third color (I use green) for long sections with no Dangers and no significant navigation.
Green tells me to twist the throttle and head for the horizon.
Confidential Draft © Charlie Rauseo and Rally Management Services, 2007-2008
A Final Word about Navigation: It is possible to finish the Dakar with very little navigation
experience. Once you understand the general concept, and if you go slow enough, you will not
get lost. Navigation training and practice can make you more efficient at navigating while riding
fast. If you run out of time preparing for the Dakar, sacrifice navigation training before you cut
your physical and riding training short. You will not make it to the finish if you are unfit, but
you can muddle you way through the navigation.
Navigation/Safety Equipment:
Cockpit: from top, left to right: ICO, Cap and Speed Repeater, Roadbook reader (second ICO
underneath), GPS-Iritrack. Left handlebar has roadbook toggle below, first ICO switch near
grip, and red second ICO switch.
1. Roadbook reader: This must have an electric motor, handlebar switch, and backlighting.
The best and most common on the Dakar is the MD Roadbook reader. Roadbook
problems are probably the most frequent mechanical failures during the Dakar, so use a quality
item and learn how to fix it.
2. ICO: This is a re-settable digital odometer and speedometer. The most suitable
version for the Dakar is the ICO Rally Light which has back-lighting and a handlebar switch. It
will run on its own batteries for some time, but should be powered by the bike’s electrical
system. Many riders run two of these, with the second as a spare in case of failure, or as a
backup in case they make an error resetting mileage. Since the most common failure by far of
the ICO is damage to the pickup cable to the magnetic sensor on the front disc, it is possible to
run only one ICO unit, but run two parallel pickup cables with the second as a quick-change
spare. The ICO cables and pickup must be carefully routed out of harm’s way.
3. GPS-Iritrack: The Dakar organization will issue you an ERTF GPS-Iritrack unit
at Scrutineering just before the start. Your bike must arrive at Scrutineering with the necessary
bracket and wiring to accept their GPS. The GPS-Iritrack unit is a single box incorporating two
separate sections, each with its own power and antennas. Before the rally, you must purchase the
GPS bracket and GPS wiring harness and antenna from ERTF. You must also purchase the
Iritrack wiring harness and two Iritrack antennas from TDCom. The Dakar organization will
Confidential Draft © Charlie Rauseo and Rally Management Services, 2007-2008
forward specific ordering forms in the early fall, and the parts will come with detailed
instructions.
Dakar ERTF GPS unit
4. Sentinel: Similar to the GPS-Iritrack, your bike must arrive at Scrutineering with
the bracket and wiring harness and signal horn of the Sentinel system, which you must purchase
ahead of time from Protech Engineering. The organization will give you the Sentinel unit at
Scrutineering. When a car or truck is near you, it may send a signal to your Sentinel which will
sound the signal horn. You are supposed to get out of the way. Remember that many cars do
this a few hundred yards behind you, so you generally have plenty of time. Some cars don’t
sound the horn at all, which can be dangerous if they raise lots of dust passing you. The fastest
cars will catch most of the motorcycles. The optional Sentinel light is unnecessary. The buzzer
is loud enough, and there is not enough space on most rally bikes for optional equipment.
Sentinel
5. Balise: This is a marine-type location beacon, completely separate from the other
safety systems. The organizers will hand you one of these at Scrutineering. You must attach this
somewhere accessible on your bike, and it is best to fabricate a small bracket and strap when
preparing your bike.
Confidential Draft © Charlie Rauseo and Rally Management Services, 2007-2008
Dimensions of the balise unit and example of mounting position.
6. Safety Equipment. The Dakar rules require you to carry certain safety items on
your person or on the bike. Generally you can get these at a camping or marine supply store.
Check the rule book for specific items, as they may change, but usually you’ll need:
A lighter, a strobe light, a flashlight, 3 flares, a compass, a mirror, a foil survival blanket.
Space on you and the bike is scarce, so get the smallest version of each of these that you can
find.
7. Repeater. This is a small unit that connects to the GPS via a cable. Repeaters
have a screen which displays your CAP heading (compass heading) or Speed, or both. There are
various versions available and vary in price from just over $200 to almost $600. Repeaters are
not absolutely necessary because the same information can be seen on the GPS screen.
However, they can make navigation easier and safer because they show important information up
high, closer to your line of sight when riding. This lets you keep your eyes on the terrain more,
looking down less.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 19, 2016, 10:03:47 pm
Its getting real for me now. :eek:

Thanks Sean for re-posting that article by Charlie, its good to read it before any rally. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 19, 2016, 10:04:33 pm
BV, I don't understand the point you are trying to make?
Nope I am all FOR neck Brace. Even my laaiti have 1.
Just something that I have seen @ Dakar.  I really thought neck braces was the rule. Sorry for any miss understanding.

:thumleft:
Title: Transport/support for amageza
Post by: OverlandRider on October 20, 2016, 12:54:22 pm
Hi,  Looks like I'll be returning to Amageza again, flying over from the UK :)  Does anybody have details of bike transport/support packages available?  My bike is in CT, so looking to transport from there, and would be open to purchasing a support package as long as it's not too expensive!  Happy to spanner on my bike too, so open to options!  Please PM me if you have any ideas.  See you on the start line!  Jonathan

Looking for a pair of Sidi crossfire boots in size EUR43 if anyone has some not being used!
Title: Re: Transport/support for amageza
Post by: seankriel on October 20, 2016, 01:34:42 pm
Hi,  Looks like I'll be returning to Amageza again, flying over from the UK :)  Does anybody have details of bike transport/support packages available?  My bike is in CT, so looking to transport from there, and would be open to purchasing a support package as long as it's not too expensive!  Happy to spanner on my bike too, so open to options!  Please PM me if you have any ideas.  See you on the start line!  Jonathan

Looking for a pair of Sidi crossfire boots in size EUR43 if anyone has some not being used!

Hey Jonathan!! GOOD to hear you will be at the start line!! I will gladly send you off into the bush every day! I will NOT come recover you as you WILL finish this one in one try!! Lol

Speak to Marie-Louise - we are transporting some bikes up from Cape Town to Upington and back via a package bought on the Amageza shop if you don't come right.

See ya Soon!!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on October 23, 2016, 11:56:22 pm
Woot woot! Nice to have you join us Jonathan!!

For some that didn't get the email (like me), this is the latest bulletin (number 3) it seems;

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Good day guys!

 

Time is flying. 14 Days till the start!

 

Please review the following, to ensure you have no surprises!

 

MSA Licence
Please email a copy of your MSA licence to entry@amageza.com. 
MSA now require the Medical Service Provider to have a copy of the licence (of injured competitor) to produce at the hospital. Competitors that are not MSA Sanctioned, are taken to the same hospitals as well, but the staff at the hospital will only see to the patient if they have proof of a 2016 MSA licence which lists their limit of cover.
Please note : The competitor will also carry a copy on his person for the whole duration of the race.
 

Confirmation Letters - Competitors
You will receive your Confirmation Letter from us when :
you’ve completed your entry form here,
emailed a copy of your MSA licence (as above),
and Start Permission Letters (international competitors only)
This letter is confirmation that you’ve successfully entered the race and will grant you access on Registration Day, 5 November.
 

Confirmation Letters - Assistance Crew
Crew members to complete their entry form here. 
Each crew member will receive a confirmation letter to use as identification on Registration Day.
To avoid frustration on 5 November, please remember to inform entry@amageza.com if you replace crew members.
 

Crew Packages and Entries
Crew packages and competitor entries are only open until Friday 28 October.  Please guys, we have to confirm numbers to caterers and plan accordingly. 
Crew members will receive armbands to wear for the duration of the race to enjoy access to the bivouac. 
Friends & groupies can also buy these packages and tour with us.
No exceptions to this rule
 

Camera’s & recording devices:
On the grounds of safety, MSA outlawed the fitment of cameras or other recording devices on the person of any competitor. Such devices may therefore not be fitted to the crash helmet or rider/driver’s body.
 

Route Distances
Stage distances is now available in the Regulations (page 22)
 

Saturday 05 November: Registration  (Naba Lodge (Conference Center), Tiptol Street, Upington: https://goo.gl/maps/xi11iq28b1K2)
All competitors and crew from 15:00 - 17:30 on Saturday, 5 November 2016.
 

Saturday 05 November: Welcome & Briefing (Upington)
18:00 - Welcome followed by race briefing for Stage 1 (Upington)
The roadbook for Stage 1 (6 November) will be handed out after the welcome and before race briefing.
No roadbooks will be handed to any team member or other competitor on behalf of someone.
It is compulsory that the competitor attends the Welcome and Briefing.
 

Sunday 06 November: Documentation & Scrutineering:
Upington Showgrounds, Diedericks Road, Upington. 07:00 - 12:00: (https://goo.gl/maps/iAUcdBYr8H12)
Race, Stage 1: 14:00 - 18:00.
 

Ensure you bring enough Re-Hydrate satchels. Its VERY HOT during the day in this area. You need lots of water and something to balance your electrolytes.

 

Please stay safe.

 

Alexander

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on October 26, 2016, 10:33:37 am
Amageza 2016 Gear teaser:

Limited numbers of Amageza 2016 T-shirts will be available at the event to purchase.... You can only get them at the event!!

Things are getting close now!

Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on October 26, 2016, 04:23:12 pm
Where does it show in the regulations that we need to wear t-shirts?  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on October 27, 2016, 06:12:56 am
Where does it show in the regulations that we need to wear t-shirts?  :biggrin: :biggrin:

Well ---- I hope you have not been running around naked reading the regulations.... LOL..
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 27, 2016, 01:25:24 pm
So i dropped my phone and now my whatsapp info is all blotto ::)  :xxbah:

Would someone please help me out with the contact details of the people we are supposed to rent the spot trackers  from?

Thanks :thumleft:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on October 27, 2016, 04:26:58 pm
So i dropped my phone and now my whatsapp info is all blotto ::)  :xxbah:

Would someone please help me out with the contact details of the people we are supposed to rent the spot trackers  from?

Thanks :thumleft:

RentX.co.za
I just spoke to the owner, Carl. zero83 642 4645. He will be in Upington at registration, you can rent and pay at the event.
Normal rent is R1 500/week. For the Amageza R2 450 for the week... And no, that does not include a refundable deposit. When asked why the price difference I got a lot of stutter. As dit pap reen moet jy skep pappie.  ;)
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Bill the Bong on October 27, 2016, 08:40:04 pm
Sies Chris
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 27, 2016, 09:30:05 pm
Thanks Chris. Sounds like its time to buy one. With all the solo riding I do, mommy might be a bit happier
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on October 27, 2016, 10:31:32 pm
Sies Chris

Tsek jy! Ek is 'n slegte mens.  :snorting:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on October 27, 2016, 10:38:10 pm
Thanks Chris. Sounds like its time to buy one. With all the solo riding I do, mommy might be a bit happier

I might do the same. Let us know what options there is. Indigosat.co.za sell them for R3 300. Then there is a $165 service plan fee. Don't know if we are allowed to bring our own.



Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on October 28, 2016, 06:10:01 am
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Don't know if we are allowed to bring our own.

Yes you can. I'm using my personal one.

For those considering purchasing a SPOT Gen3, Flying Brick has stock for R2650, which is an awesome price.
However, I must warn you that the same service plan that is loaded onto the devices from RentX (Extreme Tracking - 2.5 minute updates) will cost you an additional ~R4700 annually or ~R570 monthly. Service plans are for a minimum of 12 months, so you can't buy and just pay for the months you want to use. To sum it up, if you are looking to buy you are in for a total of R2650 (Device) + R4700 (Service plan) + R500 (RentX Connection Fee) = R7850!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: GraZer on October 28, 2016, 06:17:19 am
The local RAM Mounts agent carries stock of the SPOT Gen3 mount which works nicely with the low profile bar mount.

http://www.ram-mount.co.za/ (http://www.ram-mount.co.za/)
SPOT Gen3 cradle - RAM-HOL-SPO4U
EZ-ON/OFF mount - RAP-274-1

(http://www.rammount.com/images/gallery/RAM-HOL-SPO4U/RAM-HOL-SPO4U.jpg)

(http://www.rammount.com/images/gallery/RAP-274-1/RAP-274-1U.jpg)

I have purchased the above mounts for my SPOT Gen3 and Marnix de Lorm as the local agent was awesome to deal with and I received the mounts overnight (JHB -> CPT)



Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on October 28, 2016, 07:16:56 am
Wow tha
Quote
Don't know if we are allowed to bring our own.

Yes you can. I'm using my personal one.

For those considering purchasing a SPOT Gen3, Flying Brick has stock for R2650, which is an awesome price.
However, I must warn you that the same service plan that is loaded onto the devices from RentX (Extreme Tracking - 2.5 minute updates) will cost you an additional ~R4700 annually or ~R570 monthly. Service plans are for a minimum of 12 months, so you can't buy and just pay for the months you want to use. To sum it up, if you are looking to buy you are in for a total of R2650 (Device) + R4700 (Service plan) + R500 (RentX Connection Fee) = R7850!


wow thats very dear  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Cracker on October 28, 2016, 07:56:59 am
Best you just tell mommy where you're going or buy a long piece of string  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on October 28, 2016, 05:21:55 pm
Best you just tell mommy where you're going or buy a long piece of string  :biggrin:

Smart move! Tried the pebble version once, that didnt work so well  :biggrin: ;D
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: Scooterbike on October 31, 2016, 04:23:56 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=201324.0
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on November 01, 2016, 10:48:51 am
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=201324.0

Sounds like a nice trip!

See you in Upington then!! :ricky:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 01, 2016, 02:00:15 pm
Discussions have been quite animated within the malle moto whatsapp group. Hopefully I wont be hing, drawn and quartered for posting this, but it was too funny. :lol8: :lol8:
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Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: seankriel on November 01, 2016, 02:23:34 pm
Discussions have been quite animated within the malle moto whatsapp group. Hopefully I wont be hing, drawn and quartered for posting this, but it was too funny. :lol8: :lol8:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Funnies/i-N6Dq9s3/0/M/1-M.png)(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Funnies/i-XFCLjPL/0/M/2-M.png)(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Funnies/i-R6MXjkd/0/M/3-M.png)(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Funnies/i-ssW6TgD/0/M/4-M.png)

I want to be part of this group - sounds mirror funny!! Lol
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: tehdutchie on November 01, 2016, 03:41:45 pm
LOL!
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: JustBendIt on November 01, 2016, 04:41:43 pm
Thanks Chris. Sounds like its time to buy one. With all the solo riding I do, mommy might be a bit happier

I might do the same. Let us know what options there is. Indigosat.co.za sell them for R3 300. Then there is a $165 service plan fee. Don't know if we are allowed to bring our own.

ChrisMann you definitely need one

Are you still the kakkest navigator out there ? The only oke who did 2 Amageza's in 2015 by getting lost so much ...

You probably get lost in your own backyard ... a few times ... in the space of a few hours ... every day

 :pot:
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: ChrisMann on November 01, 2016, 09:25:32 pm
Thanks Chris. Sounds like its time to buy one. With all the solo riding I do, mommy might be a bit happier

I might do the same. Let us know what options there is. Indigosat.co.za sell them for R3 300. Then there is a $165 service plan fee. Don't know if we are allowed to bring our own.

ChrisMann you definitely need one

Are you still the kakkest navigator out there ? The only oke who did 2 Amageza's in 2015 by getting lost so much ...

You probably get lost in your own backyard ... a few times ... in the space of a few hours ... every day

 :pot:

You have no idea how happy the wife is everyday I find my way home.

I'm sure by now everyone will just went the opposite direction i'm going...  :P 
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 01, 2016, 10:53:06 pm
Its your avatar, Chris ;D  :drif: Blame it on that.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 02, 2016, 09:47:59 am
Just saw what Michiel said about the Roof, and I do believe its equally pertinent here:

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For anyone in my position (unfit and unprepared with no superhero skills), and I'm speaking to myself as well, I'd say you got to look at it like this:

Approach each days route with curiosity as to where it will take you and what the next valley will look like.
Enjoy the breathtaking beauty of The Mountain Kingdom! If you're just riding to get to the end it will be never-ending HELL!

Be smooth and easy. Keep a manageable rhythm even if it is on the slow side. I would advise against trying to go fast and
then messing up by crashing and getting hurt or breaking the bike. Riding sustainably will give you 3 days of the best experience
in your life regardless if you finish the route set out by the organizers. Racing completely out of your abilities will send you home
or to the hospital prematurely.
Title: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 02, 2016, 03:39:19 pm
Right this Amageza buildup thread is offically closed on request of the orga ,

please continue posting on the new there here >> http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=201443.0