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Title: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 22, 2016, 01:43:50 pm
Has anyone travelled by bike through Vietnam

Im looking for any info on buying a bike in Hanoi and selling it again in Ho Chi Minh, im really not fussed if its scooters but we will be looking to do about 2000km over 20 odd days.

Or anyone who has experience in Vietnam in general.. tx

Muz
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: edgy on February 22, 2016, 01:52:06 pm
Also interested to hear..... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Welsh on February 22, 2016, 02:01:03 pm
Try ADV Rider lots of good stuff on Vietnam  8)
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: mox on February 22, 2016, 02:07:48 pm
A few ride reports on here too. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=search2 (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?action=search2)

N[]vA on the forum could also give you some pointers.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 22, 2016, 02:19:41 pm
Ive messaged a few guys who have done RR's

Ill see what gets said and I suppose start a planning a ride thread here.

I want to go with my GF, she is an excellent pillion, she can stand, move around as well as tuck and roll.. :imaposer: so Im hoping to get something like a transalp 650 if possible but if that's not possible the GF has until Sep to learn to ride
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Xpat on February 22, 2016, 03:51:16 pm
I've done it but long time ago in 2002. I haven't done it all on bike, but I have rented Minsk in Hanoi and went 5 day loop through Northern Vietnam all the way to Dien Bien Phu, Sapa and back. That seemed to be the most scenic part with those typical Vietnamese conical hills known from Nam war movies. I've also rented scooter in Central Vietnam in a place close to Nga Trang (I think its called Dallat - a town in mountains) and did 3 day loop through the jungle, coffee plantations and the surrounding hills destroyed by Agent Orange.

Biking there is quite common thing for westerners to do, so I'm quite sure there are companies offering rental of the bikes, probably even for the trip you want to do. I don't know about buying the bike, but think one of the people I know on Facebook did it recently, so I can ask if you want.

One thing I would strongly recommend (even if you will have to use a train to go from Hanoi to Saigon) is to try to get at least for few days to Laos, which was one of the last remote places on this planet - at least when I was there, sadly I didn't make it in.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Herklaas on February 22, 2016, 03:56:17 pm
 :sip: What about the rain, acording to Forrest Gump it rains a lot.  :bueller:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 24, 2016, 12:38:03 pm
It does rain but at least the rain is warm..  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 25, 2016, 10:01:40 am
tx to everyone who poured in info on Vietnam.. I put everything together last night and made my case to the GF..  seeing as Vietnam is not really a place where 2 up travel is the best idea, and she is nervous to ride a bike for the 1st time really in a country where there are not really rules for the use of the road I was shot down a little.. but in a nice way.

She put forward her case as well.. driving a jeep around Bali for 10 days.. damn, that also sounds nice.

I have to confess she made a good case, I still stand a chance because the freaking humidity over there always sits at about 80% which is great for some, shit for me, so we will see.. round 2 negotiations coming up soon.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on February 26, 2016, 01:02:41 pm
Good luck persuading the GF  :thumleft: 

I would also love to go to Vietnam, they have the most amazing caves. Some are very remote so some trekking through forests would be called for. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/earth/10914205/In-pictures-Inside-Hang-Son-Doong-the-worlds-largest-caves-in-Vietnam.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/earth/10914205/In-pictures-Inside-Hang-Son-Doong-the-worlds-largest-caves-in-Vietnam.html)
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on February 29, 2016, 10:45:52 am
I absolutely agree that its a country that needs to be explored.. if I had it my way I would go for 2 months. Being a grown up sucks.. we have to come back to feed the kids.. lol
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on February 29, 2016, 12:09:51 pm
It surely does  :'( And don't forget to feed the RA's

... and yet, if I gave up the cottage and the medical aid, froze the RAs and sold the car, how far could I go?  :ricky:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Amsterdam on February 29, 2016, 01:06:46 pm
This is an article my son wrote about his biking trip in Vietnam in 2013.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on June 22, 2016, 04:50:36 pm

I need to start saving :D

https://www.facebook.com/events/816474708487965/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/816474708487965/)
Quote
14 day 14 night - Vietnam & Laos Off-road adventure ride
$3,545 per pax. all Inclusive motorbike tour
Join us on a journey through remote jungles and little visited battlefield from the War in Indochina. This multi-nation off road adventure starts in Hanoi and takes us down the legendary Ho Chi Minh Trail. Take on the jungle tracks and remote villages of one of the last the isolated places on earth. Battle sites and war history make this ride a special adventure. We take 2 weeks of hard-off road riding through the deep forest of Laos and end on the beach in Vietnam.

Bike: Honda CRF-L 250cc.

Hanoi • Mai Chau • Xam Nhua • Phonsavan • Vang Lene • Nang Khang • Bualapha • Xepon •Taoi • Muong Nong • Sekong • Attapeu • Hoi An (Vietnam)

Tour Start and Finish: Hanoi / Hoi An
Nearest Airport: Noi Bai International Airport / Da Nang International Airport

Request a detailed itinerary

Have any questions Click here to learn more about our Lao/Vietnam Ho Chi Minh Trail tour.

All Inclusive:
Honda CRF 250
English speaking guide
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Riding gear
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on June 22, 2016, 06:13:53 pm
now that sounds like a brilliant idea
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on June 22, 2016, 09:00:19 pm
I wonder what their idea of "hard-off road riding" is? My experience is fairly limited but I'm sure I can get up to speed (hehe) before January.

$3,500 is about R50,000 - darn, that's a bit steep.
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Post by: Vuurmaker on June 22, 2016, 09:21:12 pm
My nephew went on holiday to Vietnam while teaching in Korea

He was set on returning to VietNam

After his teach Korea contract ended, he came home for a while

Decided he is gonna go back to Vietnam, with his  backpack, passport and plane ticket in hand he left PE

He's been it Vietnam for just over a year.
Working at Vietnam backpackers first as a tourguide and now moved to Hue to manage the hostel

http://www.vietnambackpackerhostels.com/
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Post by: Ri on June 23, 2016, 11:26:36 am
My nephew went on holiday to Vietnam while teaching in Korea

He was set on returning to VietNam

After his teach Korea contract ended, he came home for a while

Decided he is gonna go back to Vietnam, with his  backpack, passport and plane ticket in hand he left PE

He's been it Vietnam for just over a year.
Working at Vietnam backpackers first as a tourguide and now moved to Hue to manage the hostel

http://www.vietnambackpackerhostels.com/ (http://www.vietnambackpackerhostels.com/)

So... special rates for Wild Dogs?  :lol8:

Sounds truly awesome. And well done to your nephew for sticking to his dream! A cousin worked as a housekeeper in London during his gap year. Loved it so much he went back and eventually joined the special forces (boere laaitie, he can mos like to sharp shoot good!)
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on July 19, 2016, 08:02:03 pm
have been planning my honeymoon,with about 3 weeks in Nam.the wife doesn't know it yet,but she will be looking up at the ceiling when we are not riding bike around the beautiful country  ;)
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 20, 2016, 12:48:30 am
Well when you gat back you can come contribute to the thread  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on July 20, 2016, 06:29:00 am
only going in dec,hanoi and ha long bay.found a bike rental in hanoi for $7 a day,but still researching
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Camino Cerdo on July 23, 2016, 05:46:19 am
Do your research well on Nam, I don't have time now but I think that is where they won't allow big bikes. not sure the size they become big. Heard of travelers being let into the country then a few days later have there bike confiscated.

I am about two years from getting there but if I can solve the big bike problem I would love to ride the country. Lots of my friends were there in the war and some did not come home. I look at riding Vietnam as a tribute to those fought in that stupid war.

RJT
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Fudmucker on July 28, 2016, 12:52:39 pm
Seems like 175cc is the maximum without major permit requirements...

http://www.gt-rider.com/se-asia-motorcycling/threads/175-cc-motor-size-restriction-in-vietnam.770/ (http://www.gt-rider.com/se-asia-motorcycling/threads/175-cc-motor-size-restriction-in-vietnam.770/)

That's tiny when you are used to riding 1200's.  :patch:
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on August 11, 2016, 07:59:47 am
want to do the top gear scooter tour thing,not really to fased about the size of the bike
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: RyanI on August 11, 2016, 02:52:07 pm
My Girlfriend and I visited Vietnam in December last year for two weeks. We arrived there with absolutely no plan - only the first 3 nights booked in a hotel. We packed light so we could ride if we wanted to. We gave ourselves the first day or so to explore and figure out the rest of the trip. After seeing the traffic in Saigon (Ho Chi Ming City) we decided against it and rather made our way on tour busses and public transport. We spent about 4-5 days exploring the south - the Mekong Delta and then made our way to the island of Phu Quoc by high speed ferry. Spent 4 days on the Island and this was amazing. We rented a scooter for next to nothing and explored the entire island which is 70km long. On the main land foreigners are not actually allowed to drive cars or motorbikes even though some do - very few though so I would caution against this. In the Island where things are way more relaxed they actually encourage it. We flew directly from Phu Quoc then to the north to Hanoi. Hanoi is totally different and much colder. We had to buy jackets. It is a little quieter but still crazy busy compared to what we know. There are something like 45 million scooters in Vietnam and a population of about 90million. I saw very very few big bikes. From Hanoi we visited Ha Long Bay for 2 days and a night and this too was spectacular. We spent a night on a boat - thousands of them. Here are some photos - happy to share more info if you need it.   
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Gene on August 11, 2016, 03:04:58 pm
Beautiful pics Ryan1, I am sommer lus to go one day as well, keep it up
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on August 11, 2016, 04:20:53 pm
My Girlfriend and I visited Vietnam in December last year for two weeks. We arrived there with absolutely no plan - only the first 3 nights booked in a hotel. We packed light so we could ride if we wanted to. We gave ourselves the first day or so to explore and figure out the rest of the trip. After seeing the traffic in Saigon (Ho Chi Ming City) we decided against it and rather made our way on tour busses and public transport. We spent about 4-5 days exploring the south - the Mekong Delta and then made our way to the island of Phu Quoc by high speed ferry. Spent 4 days on the Island and this was amazing. We rented a scooter for next to nothing and explored the entire island which is 70km long. On the main land foreigners are not actually allowed to drive cars or motorbikes even though some do - very few though so I would caution against this. In the Island where things are way more relaxed they actually encourage it. We flew directly from Phu Quoc then to the north to Hanoi. Hanoi is totally different and much colder. We had to buy jackets. It is a little quieter but still crazy busy compared to what we know. There are something like 45 million scooters in Vietnam and a population of about 90million. I saw very very few big bikes. From Hanoi we visited Ha Long Bay for 2 days and a night and this too was spectacular. We spent a night on a boat - thousands of them. Here are some photos - happy to share more info if you need it.   

 :drif:  :drif:  :drif: I really wanted to visit Vietnam - now I want to do it even more!
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on August 11, 2016, 07:45:30 pm
Shot Ryan.what is the visa process like?also thinking of doing saigon and the working our way north to hanio
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Offside on August 19, 2016, 01:21:51 pm
Was glad to see this thread as the dream of doing Nam has only recently become a reality for December.
Anyway we have since been persuaded not to do it. It seems it may be difficult to get into the "adventure bike" feel as there is just too much traffic and a real danger of road accidents. (lots of scooters and low priced beer).

We have started looking at Cambodia and it has some good potential for dreaming up an adventure.
Worth a look.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: onderbroek on October 05, 2016, 03:37:22 pm
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im also planning on hopefully going to asia for our honeymoon in April 2017.

We went to Phuket this year, and it was awesome, just a bit too touristy for my liking, so if all goes to plan i would love to go to Vietnam or Cambodia
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: onderbroek on March 02, 2017, 07:56:29 am
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I'm also planning on hopefully going to asia for our honeymoon in April 2017.

We went to Phuket this year, and it was awesome, just a bit too touristy for my liking, so if all goes to plan i would love to go to Vietnam or Cambodia

So we took the plunge and booked the  Flight tickets and one-night accommodation.

The plan is to arrive in Hanoi at about 14:00.

sleep in Hanoi the first night
Get our bike from Flamingo bike rental the next day, load it onto the night train, and head to SAPA overnight on the train,

Maybe spend one night in Sapa and slowly make our way back to Hanoi.

This is about as far as my planning has gone.

stuff we still want to do:

Halong Bay

Ninh Binh and sleep here:

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/15158961?checkin=04%2F06%2F2017&checkout=04%2F07%2F2017&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0&s=yv0Y-LXT (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/15158961?checkin=04%2F06%2F2017&checkout=04%2F07%2F2017&guests=2&adults=2&children=0&infants=0&s=yv0Y-LXT)

spend some time in Hanoi.
If anybody has been there can you please recommend some stuff to do, we will be there for about 13 days. and want to make the best of it.

Then questions I have.( this list will most probably grow)

Visa at RSA embassy cost R900 per person, and we have to send our passports there via courier - I've read reviews on visa on arrival which costs about $35 - has anybody done this before?

Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: landieman on March 02, 2017, 04:32:05 pm
the vietnamese consulate in pretoria takes 3 day,and if i remember correctly was about R800?and Hanoi on a scooter is a blast!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Xpat on March 02, 2017, 11:56:37 pm
Was glad to see this thread as the dream of doing Nam has only recently become a reality for December.
Anyway we have since been persuaded not to do it. It seems it may be difficult to get into the "adventure bike" feel as there is just too much traffic and a real danger of road accidents. (lots of scooters and low priced beer).

We have started looking at Cambodia and it has some good potential for dreaming up an adventure.
Worth a look.

I don't know - seem like you got some crappy advice. Its true that I have been there (both Vietnam and Cambodia) 15 years ago and I"m sure things changed a bit. But I don't think riding bike in Vietnam is way more dangerous than in Cambodia - same density of population and everybody - including living stock - moving about on the roads. Yes, it is not SA with its wide open spaces, but much more populated area. That said, speed is also much lower and I for one enjoyed riding there.

When I was there I rented Minsk two stroke in Hanoi and went full northern loop to Dien Bien Phu and Sapa for about 3 - 4 days. And it was a blast and once out of Hanoi I didn't feel any undue danger due to traffic (mind you, I have ridden bike in India, Pakistan and Uganda to mention few, so my standards are probably different). I have also spent 2 or 3 days on the island in Hanlung bay - and as you know that is must.

I have taken train down to Nha  Trang and then bus up to Dalat which is nice little town in mountains. I have rented scooter there and went for three day ride through the mountains and coffee plantations. And then I spent some time in Saigon. Overall way too short time (about one week in Cambodia and 2 - 3 weeks - don't remember in Vietnam). But as every country which is long along the north  south axis, Vietnam is very diverse. North (Hanoi) a bit more austere - communist and cold, while south (Saigon) is more or less tropical Thailand.

I"m sure you will have a good time there - I liked Vietnam (proud but friendly people) much more than Cambodia (too poor so even piss poor westerners not good enough for Thailand can get their perverted tastes fulfilled), which I did not expect when I was going there.
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: Ri on March 03, 2017, 11:20:14 pm
Came across this article, it's been open in my browser for a month or more now, waiting to become reality  :ricky:

http://www.brake-magazine.com/travel-tour-de-nam/ (http://www.brake-magazine.com/travel-tour-de-nam/)
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: RyanI on March 04, 2017, 06:53:04 am
Onderbroek. You are going to miss a very very nice part of Vietnam by only going to the north. Hanoi is cold and dare I say it a little miserable (weather wise) compared to the south and specifically the Mekong Delta area. We spent about 10 days in the south and then 4 days in the north around Hanoi and had to buy more winter clothes. You also don't see the sun in Hanoi as it is totally overcast. Ha long bay is phenomenal though. Can't miss that.

I'm just saying that if you can possibly get to Ho Chi Ming city you won't regret it and a lot of the interesting things to see are in HCMC. There just seems to be such cool a vibe down south that is hard to explain. That said the south is much busier and will be much harder to ride a bike in, the north is less buys and easier to ride as a foreigner.
Enjoy
Ryan
Title: Re: Vietnam
Post by: onderbroek on March 04, 2017, 08:54:14 am
Onderbroek. You are going to miss a very very nice part of Vietnam by only going to the north. Hanoi is cold and dare I say it a little miserable (weather wise) compared to the south and specifically the Mekong Delta area. We spent about 10 days in the south and then 4 days in the north around Hanoi and had to buy more winter clothes. You also don't see the sun in Hanoi as it is totally overcast. Ha long bay is phenomenal though. Can't miss that.

I'm just saying that if you can possibly get to Ho Chi Ming city you won't regret it and a lot of the interesting things to see are in HCMC. There just seems to be such cool a vibe down south that is hard to explain. That said the south is much busier and will be much harder to ride a bike in, the north is less buys and easier to ride as a foreigner.
Enjoy
Ryan

Thanks for the post Ryan. Im dead keen on visiting the south, i know you can fly down, so if we have time i will really give it a try.

But by the looks of things 13 days will not be enough for everything we have planned.