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Title: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on March 06, 2016, 01:08:54 pm
Hi Guys

I have seen quite a few trophy editions up for sale lately... So there is an itch developing on my side to "upgrade" my 2012 airhead.

I would like to hear from the normal lc owners how often they use the esa suspension? As it is not installed on the trophy, will I miss it?

Also, the trophy has only road and rain riding modes,  so I will not get the dynamic mode acceleration? How big effect is that?

What else will I miss from the normal lc?  Can the led headlight be fitted afterwards? I am very tempted at this stage... (Especially after all the 2016 trophy footage  :ricky:)

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Draadwerk on March 06, 2016, 02:33:03 pm
I love the gadgets. ESA and all. Use it every single day.

Riding modes indispensable as far as I am concerned.

Wouldn't trade my bike for one without.

But, riding differs from person to person and we all have choices. Just my opinion...👍
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Noneking on March 06, 2016, 02:50:38 pm
I have ridden both and can honestly tell you that even in very technical situations at Sabie Valley Rider Academy, I could not feel a difference. I like all the add ons on the full spec LC, but I think the Trophy is a bargain, especially some of the used ones for sale at the moment.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on March 06, 2016, 03:27:47 pm
Dankie vir die terugvoer sover... I.t.v die suspensie, kan die suspensie van die trophy steeds hoer gestel word vir meer tegniese terrein of as daar passasiers vervoer word?

Ek dink ek gaan maar more gou by ons handelaar draai... :deal:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: BlingKing on March 07, 2016, 10:31:41 am
I didn't ever want to change from my oil-cooled Adventure to the LC because of the crap new suspension system and all the electronic gizmotronics on the LC. Then the LC Trophy came out - Boooyaaa! What a bike, ABS, Heated Grips and Traction Control - that's it - awesome - the only extras I ever wanted.
Love the Trophy, I have ordered the new suspension for mine (also making it slightly lower because I am a short-ass) and of course I have added a ton of Wunderlich Bling as it is my showroom and I am loving it!
The best thing I am going to add is the Wunderlich seat, the standard seat is poxy to say the least!
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2016, 10:34:55 am
Dankie vir die terugvoer sover... I.t.v die suspensie, kan die suspensie van die trophy steeds hoer gestel word vir meer tegniese terrein of as daar passasiers vervoer word?

Ek dink ek gaan maar more gou by ons handelaar draai... :deal:

As mens die prysverskil tussen die Trophy en die full spec LC in ag neem moet mens wonder of die klokkies en fluitjies dit werd is.  Ja, die elektronika is lekker, maar dit is moerrrrr duur.  Ek pillion op die oomblik gereëld so my ESA werk amper elke dag en dis handig, maar nie die alfa en omega nie.  Die riding modes is lekker, maar ook nie die alfa en omega nie.  Die LED lig is koel, maar is dit die geld werd?  Derduisende rande.  Die cruise control is vir my goud werd. 

Die trophy se suspension stel met die hand soos enige ander fiets sonder ESA.  Groot swart knop waarmee jy sy agterent op en af stel. 

Ek dink die Trophy is 'n uitstekende koop teen die prys.  As mens die ekstra bokke het vir al die klokkies en fluitjies en die goed is belangrik, is die LC die bike vir jou.  Ding is, die Trophy gee jou dieselfde rygerief, kwaliteit, plesier, etc.  teen 'n heelwat laer prys.  Braam van Bavarian BMW (eks-Verkoopsbestuurder, nou Brand Amabassador) toer die land plat met 'n Trophy wat Bavarian vir hom leen.  Hy kon ook 'n vol spec LC leen .....

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on March 07, 2016, 10:07:24 pm
I didn't ever want to change from my oil-cooled Adventure to the LC because of the crap new suspension system and all the electronic gizmotronics on the LC. Then the LC Trophy came out - Boooyaaa! What a bike, ABS, Heated Grips and Traction Control - that's it - awesome - the only extras I ever wanted.
Love the Trophy, I have ordered the new suspension for mine (also making it slightly lower because I am a short-ass) and of course I have added a ton of Wunderlich Bling as it is my showroom and I am loving it!
The best thing I am going to add is the Wunderlich seat, the standard seat is poxy to say the least!

That is one awesome looking bike, would love to do that to mine!
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on March 08, 2016, 06:54:34 am
Het self n trophy en is baie happy.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Copernicus on March 08, 2016, 04:16:44 pm
I didn't ever want to change from my oil-cooled Adventure to the LC because of the crap new suspension system and all the electronic gizmotronics on the LC. Then the LC Trophy came out - Boooyaaa! What a bike, ABS, Heated Grips and Traction Control - that's it - awesome - the only extras I ever wanted.
Love the Trophy, I have ordered the new suspension for mine (also making it slightly lower because I am a short-ass) and of course I have added a ton of Wunderlich Bling as it is my showroom and I am loving it!
The best thing I am going to add is the Wunderlich seat, the standard seat is poxy to say the least!

Denver, I forgot that you are also a Wunderlich agent.  I see those highway pegs are popular in the US.  How do you find them?  Before I decide on something like that, I will have to overcome a few inhibitions, and perhaps lament from all and sundry.  But hell, I am nearly 60 so I guess I can now do what I want  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Dries Bike on March 08, 2016, 04:56:00 pm
Het my 2006 ADV Des verkoop en n Trofee gekoop het my adv gelove ,het my n rukkie gevat om lc gewoond geraak ,het Des deur die karoo gery ,hy het nou 9000 km op en ons begin mekaar vind ruil hom vir geen ander 
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: gee on March 08, 2016, 06:29:36 pm
Got my trophy December demo with 1200ks on the clock. Saved my self close to 50k compared to the full lc.I was then able to afford to kit it out with side and top panniers, crash bars, taller screen ext and still had money to spare for a rainy day. Love the bike. Fitted the Kaoko cruise control i think it was around R790 so that toke care of speed control. It takes 10 seconds to adjust suspension which is not very often. Every thing else works well. I have ridden the full LC and did not find i was missing much. Would i buy one again hell yes within a blink of a eye.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on March 08, 2016, 06:46:20 pm
Quote
Denver, I forgot that you are also a Wunderlich agent.  I see those highway pegs are popular in the US.  How do you find them?  Before I decide on something like that, I will have to overcome a few inhibitions, and perhaps lament from all and sundry.  But hell, I am nearly 60 so I guess I can now do what I want  :biggrin:
If you get a set, you WILL NOT be alone!
I shared an exhibition stand with Denver at the 2014 Africa Bike Week, in Margate...
(we helped each other with space/sales/bikes, etc).
I think he (I helped a bit) sold TWENTY THREE pairs within the 1st day or 2, and that was just that show, so I do think there are LOTS of highway pegs out there!

Cheers
Chris & Team
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: charliepappa on March 12, 2016, 10:29:54 am
Ek kry my Trophy Donderdag!! Ek kan nie slaap nie; soos n kind voor Kersfees!!  ;D
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2016, 10:44:58 am
Ek kry my Trophy Donderdag!! Ek kan nie slaap nie; soos n kind voor Kersfees!!  ;D

Wonderlik!  Baie geluk!  Ek hoop elke dag wat jy ry voel dit soos Kersfees.   :thumleft:

Ek ry 'n vol LC, suiwer omdat toe ek gekoop het dit al was wat beskikbaar was.  Die enigste ding wat ek sou mis as ek nou oorslaan na 'n Trophy toe is die cruise control.  Die res is nie die R50k werd nie.  Soos iemand hierbo gesę het, ek sou verkies om die R50k op painniers, erc.  te spandeer. 
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: charliepappa on March 12, 2016, 11:03:05 am
Verseker, ek het nou geld om baie ekstra op die Trophy te sit.

Ek het die opsie om n colour change van wit na daai donker blou te doen. Wat dink julle?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Draadwerk on March 12, 2016, 11:41:39 am
Verseker, ek het nou geld om baie ekstra op die Trophy te sit.

Ek het die opsie om n colour change van wit na daai donker blou te doen. Wat dink julle?
Baie geluk!!!

Ja, verander die kleur dadelik 👍
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on March 12, 2016, 04:01:54 pm
Dankie vir al die terugvoer!

Ek het toe woensdag my trophy gaan haal  :ricky:


Die boere sal ook bly wees, want dit het sover elke dag gereen vandat ek hom gekry het! Wat n lekker fiets, kan nie die smile van my gesig afkry nie. ;D

Ek sal wel by die dealer moet uitkom, het die fiets op rain mode gesit, maar ekt steeds nat geword... :imaposer:

Ek wag nou net vir die crashbars om te arriveer.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on March 12, 2016, 08:29:31 pm
Dankie vir al die terugvoer!

Ek het toe woensdag my trophy gaan haal  :ricky:


Die boere sal ook bly wees, want dit het sover elke dag gereen vandat ek hom gekry het! Wat n lekker fiets, kan nie die smile van my gesig afkry nie. ;D

Ek sal wel by die dealer moet uitkom, het die fiets op rain mode gesit, maar ekt steeds nat geword... :imaposer:

Ek wag nou net vir die crashbars om te arriveer.

Congrats with the new bike - post a pic
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Dries Bike on March 12, 2016, 08:34:17 pm
Meurig ,geluk ,eksien iemand het nou die dag crash bars en spots op forum vir goeie prys geadvereer as jy belangstel
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kameel on March 12, 2016, 09:22:30 pm

Ek sal wel by die dealer moet uitkom, het die fiets op rain mode gesit, maar ekt steeds nat geword... :imaposer:


 :imaposer:
Title: Re:
Post by: Tom van Brits on March 12, 2016, 10:33:21 pm
Baie geluk aan al die nuwe Trophy eienaars. N stunning bike!

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Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: M0dder Tekkies on March 13, 2016, 11:09:50 am
Baie geluk met jou fiets W@nted.

Ek kyk self om nou die 1200 aan te skaf en moet sę die Trophy se prys en package is baie aanloklik.

Dit sou nice wees as BMW die cruise control as ekstra opsie op hom kon bied.

Verder kort hy niks wat ek gaan mis nie.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: BAYZANA on September 21, 2016, 08:35:33 am
Collected my TROPHY about a week ago. Brilliant value for money and with the current deal of 25 k trade assist till end September for any trade in of any 1200 GS air cooled it was a no brainer. Received a good trade in offer PLUS the 25k.  :laughing4:   
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on September 21, 2016, 09:22:17 am
Collected my TROPHY about a week ago. Brilliant value for money and with the current deal of 25 k trade assist till end September for any trade in of any 1200 GS air cooled it was a no brainer. Received a good trade in offer PLUS the 25k.  :laughing4:   

Bliksem! These deals always arrive after I have purchased my bike  :dousing:

Anyway, still enjoying my trophy every day, awesome machine :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 21, 2016, 10:07:50 am
Collected my TROPHY about a week ago. Brilliant value for money and with the current deal of 25 k trade assist till end September for any trade in of any 1200 GS air cooled it was a no brainer. Received a good trade in offer PLUS the 25k.  :laughing4:   

Bliksem! These deals always arrive after I have purchased my bike  :dousing:

Anyway, still enjoying my trophy every day, awesome machine :thumleft:

Think I will go for one too but I have the LC GSA so no R25k trade in assistance  :-[
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: JAS on September 23, 2016, 07:29:18 am
Geluk man !!

Jip daai trophy is regtig goeie waarde vir geld, die gizmos is nice op GSA  maar moet se die moerse klomp geld wat jy spaar
en regtig waar oor 10 jaar loop jou trophy sonder stront en ons is almal is debliksem in vir NOKIA wat die klomp swtitches gemaak het.
En as daai nice LED lig gaan uit waarborg uit gaan ons huil !!

Geniet hom


Die belanfgriskte is die ENJIN is dieselfde, hy het ABS en heated grips !! Enige iets anders is 'n "WANT" en definitef nie 'n "NEED" nie.

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on September 23, 2016, 09:03:15 am
Geluk man !!

Jip daai trophy is regtig goeie waarde vir geld, die gizmos is nice op GSA  maar moet se die moerse klomp geld wat jy spaar
en regtig waar oor 10 jaar loop jou trophy sonder stront en ons is almal is debliksem in vir NOKIA wat die klomp swtitches gemaak het.
En as daai nice LED lig gaan uit waarborg uit gaan ons huil !!

Geniet hom


Die belanfgriskte is die ENJIN is dieselfde, hy het ABS en heated grips !! Enige iets anders is 'n "WANT" en definitef nie 'n "NEED" nie.



 :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on September 24, 2016, 03:41:31 pm
Kan iemand bietjie die ride modes verduidelik? Het die trophy nie die dynamic pro mode nie? Wat behels dit?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 24, 2016, 07:49:08 pm
Kan iemand bietjie die ride modes verduidelik? Het die trophy nie die dynamic pro mode nie? Wat behels dit?

Rain & Road only, sorry no ESA either
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on September 25, 2016, 08:49:37 am
As die Trophy net speedocruise as n opsie gehad het sou baie van die fullhouse lc nie verkoop het imo nie.

Is al wat die Trophy kort.  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: BlingKing on September 26, 2016, 01:34:26 pm
As die Trophy net speedocruise as n opsie gehad het sou baie van die fullhouse lc nie verkoop het imo nie.

Is al wat die Trophy kort.  :ricky:


You can retro-fit both the Speed Control and the Gear Assist Quick Shifter by a BMW Dealer.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 26, 2016, 01:36:53 pm
As die Trophy net speedocruise as n opsie gehad het sou baie van die fullhouse lc nie verkoop het imo nie.

Is al wat die Trophy kort.  :ricky:


You can retro-fit both the Speed Control and the Gear Assist Quick Shifter by a BMW Dealer.

I miss the enduro mode which I did use on the dirt with dual purpose tyres but for the rest, I don't mind
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on September 26, 2016, 03:28:44 pm
For a quick change to off road conditions I just switch traction control off. Only in the very rough stuff I stop to switch off abs  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: gee on September 26, 2016, 03:46:45 pm
i saw at the kzn bash someone had a trophy with all the riding software mods installed. I dont know who did it for him but it was just a software hack as far as i know
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 26, 2016, 03:49:36 pm
For a quick change to off road conditions I just switch traction control off. Only in the very rough stuff I stop to switch off abs  :ricky:

Agreed but the Enduro mode just made it so much easier and still had the safety net of ASC & ABS when needed
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 30, 2016, 05:27:08 pm
The dealer fitted the OEM headlight guard but with the Halogen Lights I am getting a lot of light reflecting back into the cockpit area. 

A bit disappointing  >:(
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: gee on September 30, 2016, 06:46:56 pm
found out today  NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES do the riding setting mods spoke to steve the workshop manager. He said it gives you all riding setting of the LC but of cource not the suspention setting
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 30, 2016, 06:55:25 pm
found out today  NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES do the riding setting mods spoke to steve the workshop manager. He said it gives you all riding setting of the LC but of cource not the suspention setting

Yes because in Enduro mode the suspension lifts quite a bit
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on October 01, 2016, 08:45:05 am
The Trophy came with a sticker kit so I fitted the ones that fit below the GS badge, have the other stickers but not sure if I should apply those?  What do you think?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on October 01, 2016, 08:46:48 am
The full sticker kit looks like this....
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on October 01, 2016, 08:26:10 pm
My opinion only the one beneath the GS badge if you want to.

I wont put on any stickers but thats just me. ;)
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on October 04, 2016, 09:15:40 am
As per the previous advice, stickers left off except for below the GS Badge

On another subject, I read that other bikes in Offroad Mode (KTM) & Enduro mode (BMW) rain in the horsepower to below 100.

That means with the Trophy edition it is 125hp on the dirt because of no offroad modes?

Would it therefore be better to put it in rain mode and switch off traction control and ABS?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Stichhom on October 04, 2016, 09:49:52 am
Hi Gents. I am also the very proud owner of a 2016 Trophy. What an amazing bike compared to the Klr - said with respect. The bike feels extremely lively and nimble. Bike feels it can carry me all day without breaking a drop of perspiration.

I have attempted to adjust the gearlever on the adjustment rod, but the locknuts are too tight for me. Just feels the gearlever is way too low for my boots and makes shifting up difficult.

A bit more concerning for me - I hear a lot of mechanical noise emitting from the engine. It is engine speed related. Sounds like a worn bearing or cam chains rubbing. I test rode a 2013 LC and it made the same engine noise. Was told they all make that noise? I expected this premium German brand to be super quiet. Any information on this from fellow Wild dogs with Trophy`s would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: charliepappa on October 05, 2016, 10:23:26 am
With some elbow grease you should get them loose.

Regarding the; they all sound like that...unfortunately... ;)
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on November 06, 2016, 08:58:02 am
I have put 1000km now on the demo Trophy I bought, I find it to be quicker than the other two LC's I had.  The Full Spec GS & GSA I had did not seem to be as lively as this Trophy.

Maybe the lack of factory accessory options on the bike make it lighter and a little quicker?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on November 06, 2016, 11:53:07 am
agree  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: TheBear on November 06, 2016, 01:07:51 pm
A bit more concerning for me - I hear a lot of mechanical noise emitting from the engine. It is engine speed related. Sounds like a worn bearing or cam chains rubbing. I test rode a 2013 LC and it made the same engine noise. Was told they all make that noise? I expected this premium German brand to be super quiet. Any information on this from fellow Wild dogs with Trophy`s would be appreciated.

Thanks.

I think the issue is that the noisy part of the engine, on a boxer, is exposed.  My first GS I  was shocked at the engine noise and, rather dikbek, compared to my really quiet previous bike, the DL1000 Suzuki.  Some oke pointed out that that whole Suzuki engine is directly under the tank and seat which is excellent sound proofing.

Anyway, over the years I got used to the noise from the boxers.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on November 06, 2016, 02:38:59 pm
A bit more concerning for me - I hear a lot of mechanical noise emitting from the engine. It is engine speed related. Sounds like a worn bearing or cam chains rubbing. I test rode a 2013 LC and it made the same engine noise. Was told they all make that noise? I expected this premium German brand to be super quiet. Any information on this from fellow Wild dogs with Trophy`s would be appreciated.

Thanks.

I think the issue is that the noisy part of the engine, on a boxer, is exposed.  My first GS I  was shocked at the engine noise and, rather dikbek, compared to my really quiet previous bike, the DL1000 Suzuki.  Some oke pointed out that that whole Suzuki engine is directly under the tank and seat which is excellent sound proofing.

Anyway, over the years I got used to the noise from the boxers.

The noise increases over time, I sold my GSA with 37000km on it and it made a lot of what sounded like tappet noise.  The newer bike doesn't sound the same.

Now I also make a point of wearing earplugs so I don't hear it as much anymore either
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on November 06, 2016, 03:13:23 pm
I have put 1000km now on the demo Trophy I bought, I find it to be quicker than the other two LC's I had.  The Full Spec GS & GSA I had did not seem to be as lively as this Trophy.

Maybe the lack of factory accessory options on the bike make it lighter and a little quicker?

Were the other two also demo bikes?
I.m.o. a demo is not ridden in but abused from day 1, I dont test ride a bike to check its optimal consumption figures....
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: TheBear on November 06, 2016, 03:48:39 pm
A bit more concerning for me - I hear a lot of mechanical noise emitting from the engine. It is engine speed related. Sounds like a worn bearing or cam chains rubbing. I test rode a 2013 LC and it made the same engine noise. Was told they all make that noise? I expected this premium German brand to be super quiet. Any information on this from fellow Wild dogs with Trophy`s would be appreciated.

Thanks.

I think the issue is that the noisy part of the engine, on a boxer, is exposed.  My first GS I  was shocked at the engine noise and, rather dikbek, compared to my really quiet previous bike, the DL1000 Suzuki.  Some oke pointed out that that whole Suzuki engine is directly under the tank and seat which is excellent sound proofing.

Anyway, over the years I got used to the noise from the boxers.

The noise increases over time, I sold my GSA with 37000km on it and it made a lot of what sounded like tappet noise.  The newer bike doesn't sound the same.

Now I also make a point of wearing earplugs so I don't hear it as much anymore either

Didn't notice that the noise increase over time.   My LC now at almost 50 000 and sounds like it did on day 1 ..... or maybe my hearing is just growing older!   :lol8:

What can't be argued away is that they are noisy.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on November 06, 2016, 05:18:46 pm
I have put 1000km now on the demo Trophy I bought, I find it to be quicker than the other two LC's I had.  The Full Spec GS & GSA I had did not seem to be as lively as this Trophy.

Maybe the lack of factory accessory options on the bike make it lighter and a little quicker?

Were the other two also demo bikes?
I.m.o. a demo is not ridden in but abused from day 1, I dont test ride a bike to check its optimal consumption figures....

The full spec was a Donford Motorrad demo with 7000km on it, the GSA I bought with 34000km on it.  Donford had traded in the GSA and were using it themselves as a rep's bike.

Both bikes went well but the Trophy just seems so much more like a F800 GS on steroids.  Similar throttle response to the 800
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on November 06, 2016, 05:20:55 pm
A bit more concerning for me - I hear a lot of mechanical noise emitting from the engine. It is engine speed related. Sounds like a worn bearing or cam chains rubbing. I test rode a 2013 LC and it made the same engine noise. Was told they all make that noise? I expected this premium German brand to be super quiet. Any information on this from fellow Wild dogs with Trophy`s would be appreciated.

Thanks.

I think the issue is that the noisy part of the engine, on a boxer, is exposed.  My first GS I  was shocked at the engine noise and, rather dikbek, compared to my really quiet previous bike, the DL1000 Suzuki.  Some oke pointed out that that whole Suzuki engine is directly under the tank and seat which is excellent sound proofing.

Anyway, over the years I got used to the noise from the boxers.

The noise increases over time, I sold my GSA with 37000km on it and it made a lot of what sounded like tappet noise.  The newer bike doesn't sound the same.

Now I also make a point of wearing earplugs so I don't hear it as much anymore either

Didn't notice that the noise increase over time.   My LC now at almost 50 000 and sounds like it did on day 1 ..... or maybe my hearing is just growing older!   :lol8:

What can't be argued away is that they are noisy.

I just thought the noise was due to tappers that must be set during the 40000km service, there is definitely a quieter engine in the newer Trophy.  Or maybe I just like to believe that  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on November 07, 2016, 08:02:38 am
I must agree with Meurig on how nippy the trophy is. It feels more "alive" than the GSA in Dynamic mode... Definitely has to do with the reduced mass of the bike without the ESA etc... :biggrin: I love my trophy!  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: ETS on December 14, 2016, 03:33:54 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Maverick702 on December 14, 2016, 03:36:52 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??
Button on the left handle marked ABS. Hold it in for about 2 seconds for TC to turn off. This can be done while moving. Holding the same button for longer while stationary, will turn ABS off.

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Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: silvrav on December 14, 2016, 03:37:50 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??

 :imaposer: maar congrats! happy smiles!
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on December 14, 2016, 03:50:22 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??
Button on the left handle marked ABS. Hold it in for about 2 seconds for TC to turn off. This can be done while moving. Holding the same button for longer while stationary, will turn ABS off.

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That sounds the same as the setup on old aircooled bikes. Cool
ETS what is your opinion on the Trophy?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: ETS on December 14, 2016, 03:56:52 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??
Button on the left handle marked ABS. Hold it in for about 2 seconds for TC to turn off. This can be done while moving. Holding the same button for longer while stationary, will turn ABS off.

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That sounds the same as the setup on old aircooled bikes. Cool
ETS what is your opinion on the Trophy?

Thanks guys. I bought this bike for a moerse bargain to keep at my holiday home. Have a LC with all the bells and whistles as my main bike. IMHO the more expensive one is a waste of money!!! All that the Trophy needs is speed control. MY OPINION........
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: ETS on December 14, 2016, 04:03:46 pm
And.. for some reason it is lighter on fuel than my Top of Range... ok maybe because it hasnt got panniers....
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 14, 2016, 04:25:56 pm
Help me out here-- just bought a second hand Trophy. Buttt it has traction control!!! Where do i turn it off??
Button on the left handle marked ABS. Hold it in for about 2 seconds for TC to turn off. This can be done while moving. Holding the same button for longer while stationary, will turn ABS off.

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That sounds the same as the setup on old aircooled bikes. Cool
ETS what is your opinion on the Trophy?

Thanks guys. I bought this bike for a moerse bargain to keep at my holiday home. Have a LC with all the bells and whistles as my main bike. IMHO the more expensive one is a waste of money!!! All that the Trophy needs is speed control. MY OPINION........

I would like Enduro mode on mine
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Danza on December 14, 2016, 07:23:20 pm
So after getting a great deal on a trophy last year, I gradually pimped mine out with a few extra bits and pieces. (Yes, that was me at the KZN bash) I added cruise control, riding modes and gear assist pro. I feel that I now have the perfect setup and I'm still about R25k better off than a full spec lc. Don't let any dealer tell you it can't be done, just because they don't know how. Happy riding!

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Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 14, 2016, 07:54:27 pm
So after getting a great deal on a trophy last year, I gradually pimped mine out with a few extra bits and pieces. (Yes, that was me at the KZN bash) I added cruise control, riding modes and gear assist pro. I feel that I now have the perfect setup and I'm still about R25k better off than a full spec lc. Don't let any dealer tell you it can't be done, just because they don't know how. Happy riding!

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

I seem to remember Donford in Cape Town told me the bike doesn't have a gyroscope sensor and they couldn't therefore load the other modes.  Does that sound right?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: ETS on December 15, 2016, 10:22:39 am
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 15, 2016, 11:29:37 am
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?

I tried it on mine and the dealer told me it didn't - still inserted though.

Mind you if I switch off in Rain Mode, it starts again in Rain Mode, so maybe
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: silvrav on December 15, 2016, 01:28:41 pm
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?

I tried it on mine and the dealer told me it didn't - still inserted though.

Mind you if I switch off in Rain Mode, it starts again in Rain Mode, so maybe

So no enduro pro mode?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 15, 2016, 03:19:49 pm
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?

I tried it on mine and the dealer told me it didn't - still inserted though.

Mind you if I switch off in Rain Mode, it starts again in Rain Mode, so maybe

So no enduro pro mode?

Only rain and road
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 15, 2016, 03:27:01 pm
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?

I tried it on mine and the dealer told me it didn't - still inserted though.

Mind you if I switch off in Rain Mode, it starts again in Rain Mode, so maybe

So no enduro pro mode?

Only rain and road

I was just told by BMW that ESA must be fitted for the Enduro mode
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: silvrav on December 15, 2016, 03:35:09 pm
Can the Trophy also work with a dongle like the full spec?

I tried it on mine and the dealer told me it didn't - still inserted though.

Mind you if I switch off in Rain Mode, it starts again in Rain Mode, so maybe

So no enduro pro mode?

Only rain and road

I was just told by BMW that ESA must be fitted for the Enduro mode

Then theres a reason Danza bike is 25k below a full spec LC and thus more expensive imo
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: ETS on December 15, 2016, 04:03:29 pm
Butt for an old fool like me, i would never be able to tell the difference :thumleft: :-[ :-[ ::)
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 23, 2016, 03:29:53 pm
So I made the mistake of going to test ride......6 bikes today! 3 GS 1200's and a few other brands.
I've ridden a 2015 GSA before....but test ride a 1200gs LC Trophy today....and I'm in love.
I was going to go Oil cooked older but now riding these guys back to back it's just a different ball game. I test ride a non Trophy as well and that had all the bells and whistles but I'm liking the trophy more.
The one thing that I'm wondering about is that I didn't see Enduro or Enduro Pro on the Tropy. Only Road and Road Plus as well as rain.
I dont care much for the ESA or Cruise control. I have a very cool cruise control device that I use on all my bikes to great effect those throttle hobbies. The question  though is what mode does one use for going off-road on the trophy model?

I rode a few brands.... but I'm going to be going BMW again if I do this.
I must just sleep on it a few days. These bikes are not cheap.
I'll probably trade the NC750x DCT and keep the Xchallenge.

The


Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 23, 2016, 03:41:58 pm
So I made the mistake of going to test ride......6 bikes today!
I've ridden a 2015 GSA before....but test ride a 1200gs LC Trophy today....and I'm in love.
I was going to go Oil cooked older but now riding these guys back to back it's just a different ball game. I test ride a non Trophy as well and that had all the bells and whistles but I'm liking the trophy more.
The one thing that I'm wondering about is that I didn't see Enduro or Enduro Pro on the Tropy. Only Road and Road Plus as well as rain.
I dont care much for the ESA or Cruise control. I have a very cool cruise control device that I use on all my bikes to great effect those throttle hobbies. The question  though is what mode does one use for going off-road on the trophy model?

I rode a few brands.... but I'm going to be going BMW again if I do this.
I must just sleep on it a few days. These bikes are not cheap.
I'll probably trade the NC750x DCT and keep the Xchallenge.

The

ABS & Traction control off I am guessing, that's all I think you can do
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 23, 2016, 03:50:25 pm
Ah ok that's fine then. I was fiddling with the TCS but I suppose bike needs to be in neutral and standstill for it to be disabled?

On another note: Is the Trophy lighter than the Standard GS's becasue of no ESA? I rode a few now but first time on a Trophy and it felt quite a bit nimbler and quicker than the Standard and GSA's. It could also be my imagination but i did ride them back to back.

This LC engine is seriously amazing ...Im not going to get rid of this itch am I?

I also noticed something I didn't notice on the other ones.
There is an arrow that shows by the gear shifter suggesting you shift up and down?
Whats that?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: OomD on December 23, 2016, 08:26:54 pm
Ah ok that's fine then. I was fiddling with the TCS but I suppose bike needs to be in neutral and standstill for it to be disabled?

On another note: Is the Trophy lighter than the Standard GS's becasue of no ESA? I rode a few now but first time on a Trophy and it felt quite a bit nimbler and quicker than the Standard and GSA's. It could also be my imagination but i did ride them back to back.

This LC engine is seriously amazing ...Im not going to get rid of this itch am I?

I also noticed something I didn't notice on the other ones.
There is an arrow that shows by the gear shifter suggesting you shift up and down?
Whats that?

The arrow recommends upshifts for the most economical riding. It can be disabled in the setup menu, if you like.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 23, 2016, 08:54:11 pm
Great stuff thanks :)

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on December 24, 2016, 12:32:16 pm
Omninorm you didnt have an 1190 in the mix? I would love to hear about a back to back comparisson between trophy and 1190
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 24, 2016, 02:22:44 pm
Omninorm you didnt have an 1190 in the mix? I would love to hear about a back to back comparisson between trophy and 1190

Molten I know I would love the KTM 1190. No doubt about it. It will also be better in the more knarly roads. Unfortunately, I won't touch a KTM again while we have the dealership we have here in CT. I was tempted,  but the thought of dealing with them at all again made me cringe.
I did ride an Explorer though. Very nice bike. All the bells and whistles and I loved the engine. I just like the BMW more. I still have my XChallenge for the rough. This will be to take the place of the NC750x and to do longer rides dirt highways and 2 up.

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 28, 2016, 10:57:16 am
Yes get that Trophy imo you wont fault it, great bike and great engine.

I for one would just change the rims to the black adventure rims then its looking so much better 8)

Would love to hear what Danza have done to have cruise control on his Trophy? Hooefully the real cruise control and not that Kaoke throttle jobbies.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 28, 2016, 11:06:38 am


I for one would just change the rims to the black adventure rims then its looking so much better 8)

.

Not sure it's worth the expense, do you think it is?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on December 28, 2016, 11:48:43 am


I for one would just change the rims to the black adventure rims then its looking so much better 8)

.

Not sure it's worth the expense, do you think it is?

DIY and its not so expensive. Not as durable as the electroplated OEM versions, but it does the job nicely. The DIY has been shown a few times on the forum now.

I havent seen many pics of the Trophy or normal GS LC with black rims, can people put up some pics please? I did it on my oil cooled and was super happy with the result.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 28, 2016, 12:31:34 pm


I for one would just change the rims to the black adventure rims then its looking so much better 8)

.

Not sure it's worth the expense, do you think it is?

DIY and its not so expensive. Not as durable as the electroplated OEM versions, but it does the job nicely. The DIY has been shown a few times on the forum now.

I havent seen many pics of the Trophy or normal GS LC with black rims, can people put up some pics please? I did it on my oil cooled and was super happy with the result.

I think my Trophy wheels have a rough finish while the GSA I used to own had a smooth finish on the wheels.

Otherwise I would consider the not so DIY approach and get somebody to do it for me.  But my next investment should be the engine guard or a gps.

I quite like the bikini screen on the new 2017 Rallye 
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 28, 2016, 07:08:21 pm
Meurig do the new Rallye have passenger foot pegs or not? Cant remember  :o

Get engine guards first imo.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 28, 2016, 07:38:38 pm
Meurig do the new Rallye have passenger foot pegs or not? Cant remember  :o

Get engine guards first imo.

There you go pic of the Rallye with rear pegs

Mine has the OEM lower guards
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 28, 2016, 08:48:20 pm
Got my Trophy....what a bike!
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/slapdash777/Bike/98634E90-7299-4FB0-AF71-21A16968069B_zpst0xnjsjm.jpg)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f114/slapdash777/Bike/3E25C8DC-815B-4CFD-9C92-58497176095E_zpswgjahj4b.jpg)
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Draadwerk on December 28, 2016, 09:55:38 pm
Congratulations. Many happy and safe miles.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: TheBear on December 28, 2016, 10:02:17 pm
Got my Trophy....what a bike!

Lekker man!  Enjoy!
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 29, 2016, 12:01:53 am
Congrats with lotsa smiles and safe miles. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: OomD on December 29, 2016, 07:42:31 am
Lekker! :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 29, 2016, 08:22:16 am
Lovely Omninorm  :thumleft:

Many happy km, since you are in the Western Cape, join the club, go on some outings http://bmwmotorradclubcape.co.za/recent-posts

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 29, 2016, 08:52:47 am
Thanks people!
I am the BMW club but a different name. Although I'm not really posting there often. I'm sure it will change now.  :)
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on December 29, 2016, 09:21:06 am
Ek het ook een is baie happy. Vir my n GPS opgesit en lower enige guards , radiator protector en bash plate , dis al  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: windswept on December 29, 2016, 09:51:52 am
What bash plate do you recommend?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: w@nted on December 29, 2016, 11:16:16 am
Loving my Trophy as well... The beast comes out above 6000 rpm  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: windswept on December 29, 2016, 04:16:08 pm
My range reading showed 5 km, filled up with 19.5 litres, so I reckon that is as accurate as can be.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 29, 2016, 04:28:19 pm
What bash plate do you recommend?

I personally would put on OEM if I had the money as it is simpler if the bike is traded in while still under warranty.  If you have another brand BMW takes it off if traded during warranty.   Strange but that's what they told me.

Otherwise it's up to you
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on December 30, 2016, 07:01:57 am
congrats! that looks great
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 30, 2016, 08:03:53 am
I noticed that when I start my bike up, sometimes there is a fuel smell.

I had read on our local BMW Club Website how to reset the throttle bodies but couldn't find the post again.

So I put the bikes ignition on without starting it and gently rolled open the throttle to full lock, then closed it.  I repeated this five times and just for good measure, I switched off and on the ignition and repeated this process again.

So far so good, no petrol smell and the bike seems smoother, maybe it is my imagination but I am pleased.

Can any one confirm this is the way to reset the throttle bodies on the LC?, 
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on December 30, 2016, 08:56:19 pm
What bash plate do you recommend?

Ive got the bmw one.  Made a deal when I bought  the bike.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on December 31, 2016, 09:54:33 am
I noticed that when I start my bike up, sometimes there is a fuel smell.

I had read on our local BMW Club Website how to reset the throttle bodies but couldn't find the post again.

So I put the bikes ignition on without starting it and gently rolled open the throttle to full lock, then closed it.  I repeated this five times and just for good measure, I switched off and on the ignition and repeated this process again.

So far so good, no petrol smell and the bike seems smoother, maybe it is my imagination but I am pleased.

Can any one confirm this is the way to reset the throttle bodies on the LC?,

Hmmm I couldn't really find anything about this but sounds like the procedure my XChallenge uses to reset the TPS /IPS.
One have to do it while the bike has run a little.
Idle or run til operating  temperature. Switch bike off then on. Slowly turn throttle open and closed 3 times. Switch bike off then back on.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on December 31, 2016, 12:49:31 pm
I noticed that when I start my bike up, sometimes there is a fuel smell.

I had read on our local BMW Club Website how to reset the throttle bodies but couldn't find the post again.

So I put the bikes ignition on without starting it and gently rolled open the throttle to full lock, then closed it.  I repeated this five times and just for good measure, I switched off and on the ignition and repeated this process again.

So far so good, no petrol smell and the bike seems smoother, maybe it is my imagination but I am pleased.

Can any one confirm this is the way to reset the throttle bodies on the LC?,

Hmmm I couldn't really find anything about this but sounds like the procedure my XChallenge uses to reset the TPS /IPS.
One have to do it while the bike has run a little.
Idle or run til operating  temperature. Switch bike off then on. Slowly turn throttle open and closed 3 times. Switch bike off then back on.

I will try it after running the bike for a while, cheers
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: windswept on January 01, 2017, 10:00:42 am
What bash plate do you recommend?

Ive got the bmw one.  Made a deal when I bought  the bike.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: scalci on January 01, 2017, 11:52:50 am
Sorry to highjack the thread... :)

What differences are there on the tropthy vs STD and Adv?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Kuifie on January 01, 2017, 12:20:23 pm
think all is on the first page
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Stichhom on January 03, 2017, 04:02:46 pm
Sorry to hijack the topic...

Gents & Ladies,

Question on a battery charger for a LC Trophy:
I do not ride that often. I would like to fit battery charger cables directly to the LC`s battery in order to keep it healthy. I have one of these battery conditioning chargers (Benton BX3), it has a range of programs and it cannot charge a completely discharged battery. Max amperage is less than 1 Ampere (think 0.8A max). The idea is to "condition" the battery when not in use say for a day or two when the bike has not being used for a week or more. In the manual it states clearly only a BMW approved float charger may be used. And it must be utilized by means of the dash mounted power supply. Any other charger will damage the on-board electronics and void the warrantee. Knowing BMW, they will probably charge a fortune for their own brand of battery float charger.

My question is, what have the fellow members installed on their Trophy`s? And I know the Trophy is ment to be ridden often as possible.

Thanks
Hijack off.. :sip:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: AntVan on January 04, 2017, 11:37:27 am
I installed a small Hella socket in the tray under the seat for power out, that I also use to charge - I just have an adapter that plugs into this Hella socket. There is a thread about it somewhere.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on January 04, 2017, 02:17:19 pm
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 04, 2017, 02:37:22 pm
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Stichhom on January 04, 2017, 03:05:07 pm
I installed a small Hella socket in the tray under the seat for power out, that I also use to charge - I just have an adapter that plugs into this Hella socket. There is a thread about it somewhere.

Thanks AntVan and mOltn3n.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 05, 2017, 11:01:51 pm
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.




Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 06, 2017, 08:06:10 am
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

 
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on January 06, 2017, 08:20:49 am

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.

As much as I would like that. It will cost to much for me. Plus I do actually want to try out an 1190. I have always had a perception that they are unreliable, but recently see that that is not necessarily true plus my BMW's wasnt exactly super reliable anyhow.
And then also, I cant keep bashing KTM without first hand experience.... :)

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 06, 2017, 09:55:44 am

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.

As much as I would like that. It will cost to much for me. Plus I do actually want to try out an 1190. I have always had a perception that they are unreliable, but recently see that that is not necessarily true plus my BMW's wasnt exactly super reliable anyhow.
And then also, I cant keep bashing KTM without first hand experience.... :)

I love the bikes KTM makes. On paper they are exactly the bikes of love to own. I've ridden a bunch of KTM's 390, lots of 690's a 990 and a 950.. Have a few mates who had/has them as well. I even owned a 2stroke XC-W, and was close to owning a 690 - haven't done the 1190 though. Make no mistake, they were all fantastic to ride. If I had loads of cash I'd have 5 or 6.
Imho the 1190R and the upcoming 1090 R will be absolutely awesome.......to ride.


Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on January 06, 2017, 10:28:17 am
Omninorm

Yap, I am stalling a bit actually. Hoping the release of the 1090 and new 1290 will see a lot of second hand 1190's enetering the market at lower prices.
I get the insinuation though, lets hope I dont have a lot of issues, there isnt a KTM dealership near my town.

Sorry for off topic.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 06, 2017, 10:42:00 am
Omninorm

Yap, I am stalling a bit actually. Hoping the release of the 1090 and new 1290 will see a lot of second hand 1190's enetering the market at lower prices.
I get the insinuation though, lets hope I dont have a lot of issues, there isnt a KTM dealership near my town.

Sorry for off topic.

Look everything is relative. Life is short. You can always sell and buy again whatever you choose.
Just make sure you ride a LC before you decide if you haven't done so already.
The power difference between it and the Air cooled is really something else.
If I actually had a competent KTM dealer I might have considered one. You NOT having one might be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 06, 2017, 01:51:43 pm
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

Hmmm interesting. Thanks for doing that and posting. So about 10kg's more than quoted. I suppose full tank as well as the extras.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 06, 2017, 01:59:36 pm
Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

Hmmm interesting. Thanks for doing that and posting. So about 10kg's more than quoted. I suppose full tank as well as the extras.

It is interesting as the license disk says 238kg

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 06, 2017, 02:45:22 pm
Yup licence disc quotes the manufacturers kerb weight. That's usually ready to ride with 90% or more fuel.
I think things like windscreen and tools gets removed on all these bikes when they weigh. But yeah it's close seeing as you have crash bars on and fueled up and so on. I would like to see a regular LC on there.
The F800GSA weighs 239kg on licence disc. So probably a bit more as well.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 11, 2017, 04:03:36 pm
Just heard the Trophy has gone up in price substantially - New retail R191k vs Full Spec R226k
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 11, 2017, 05:22:24 pm
Just heard the Trophy has gone up in price substantially - New retail R191k vs Full Spec R226k

Yeah the 2017 GSA is very close to R260K now out the door. Comes with everything though. Quickshifter etc.
Crazy prices now for a motorcycle!
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 28, 2017, 09:55:41 am
Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 28, 2017, 10:00:48 am
On a side note, BMW giving this spec LC a name "The Trophy" was a marketing win as we now seem to identify with "The Trophy."

Couldn't imagine if they had left it just as the base model it would invoke the same discussions or support  :ricky:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Tradie on January 28, 2017, 11:37:11 am
On a side note, BMW giving this spec LC a name "The Trophy" was a marketing win as we now seem to identify with "The Trophy."

Couldn't imagine if they had left it just as the base model it would invoke the same discussions or support  :ricky:
That is why you pay them the big bucks!!! 8)

They spend a fortune on marketing people that boosts your ego and make you comfortable with spending your disposable income on stuff you dont need! >:D
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: m0lt3n on January 30, 2017, 07:38:07 am
Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?

My uncle bought this Trophy. I think it looks great.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 30, 2017, 08:30:16 am
Spruced up nicely..
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Omninorm on January 30, 2017, 03:04:07 pm
Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?

I don't really find them dull with those colors. To me it just looks almost to neat  ;D
But I was looking at this place to maybe order a design. I like understated though.

https://www.signaturecd.com/product-category/bmw/r1200gs-lc/sticker-kits/alpine-white-bmw-r1200gs-lc/

Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 30, 2017, 05:56:11 pm
Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?

I don't really find them dull with those colors. To me it just looks almost to neat  ;D
But I was looking at this place to maybe order a design. I like understated though.

https://www.signaturecd.com/product-category/bmw/r1200gs-lc/sticker-kits/alpine-white-bmw-r1200gs-lc/

Quite like the M sport design - thanks Norm
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Condebr on January 30, 2017, 08:18:13 pm
My 2c worth, I have a 2014 full spec with all the available options, thanks to the previous owner, the dynamic mode is just too temperamental. Throttle is over sensitive. Suspension settings for pillow luggage etc is fantastic. Cruise control on longer journeys- indispensable- gps etc are all nice to haves but once you have it. You realize what you are missing. Tyres pressure sensors are a essential now in my book after a slow puncture.

It is a highly personal decision on how much you want to spend on "gadgets" Hell my previous bike was a klr650. I did a lot of shopping around and found my bike by chance, more than I wanted to spend but with all the extras was well worth it. No one can tell you what will work for YOU. Best advice is get your arse in the seat an go on what it is telling you. If your arse is happy, you will be too regardless if it is an old xt 500 or the latest panagale





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Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Draadwerk on January 30, 2017, 08:32:33 pm
Dynamic too sensitive? Must be something wrong with yours. I only ride dynamic, except for offroad and rain as needed.

Maybe you just have to get used to it? Keep it there. In a week or even after maybe just one day, you will not likely go back to Road mode
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on January 30, 2017, 08:37:40 pm
My 2c worth, I have a 2014 full spec with all the available options, thanks to the previous owner, the dynamic mode is just too temperamental. Throttle is over sensitive. Suspension settings for pillow luggage etc is fantastic. Cruise control on longer journeys- indispensable- gps etc are all nice to haves but once you have it. You realize what you are missing. Tyres pressure sensors are a essential now in my book after a slow puncture.

It is a highly personal decision on how much you want to spend on "gadgets" Hell my previous bike was a klr650. I did a lot of shopping around and found my bike by chance, more than I wanted to spend but with all the extras was well worth it. No one can tell you what will work for YOU. Best advice is get your arse in the seat an go on what it is telling you. If your arse is happy, you will be too regardless if it is an old xt 500 or the latest panagale





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On my Trophy I ride in RAIN mode since all my riding has been tar after getting the bike. 

It seems the power is the same as in Road mode, only the traction control kicks in earlier to stop me chewing up the rear tyre
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: OomD on January 31, 2017, 07:11:14 am

On my Trophy I ride in RAIN mode since all my riding has been tar after getting the bike. 

It seems the power is the same as in Road mode, only the traction control kicks in earlier to stop me chewing up the rear tyre
Yes, traction control is more aggresive, but throttle response is also a wee bit slower.

In the beginning (no, not that beginning) I also found dynamic mode too sensitive, mainly because there is no takeup slack like I was used to with a cable, so it seemed very sensitive to me. Especially when riding over rough terrain (still tar). I used road mode for a long time, but eventually got used to dynamic mode so use that all the time now.
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: silvrav on February 01, 2017, 07:40:13 am
Dynamic too sensitive? Must be something wrong with yours. I only ride dynamic, except for offroad and rain as needed.

Maybe you just have to get used to it? Keep it there. In a week or even after maybe just one day, you will not likely go back to Road mode

This...I klapped it in dynamic the day i got my LC...an accidental small wheelie or two and you get use to it very quickly  :deal:
Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Condebr on February 01, 2017, 06:36:11 pm
Dynamic too sensitive? Must be something wrong with yours. I only ride dynamic, except for offroad and rain as needed.

Maybe you just have to get used to it? Keep it there. In a week or even after maybe just one day, you will not likely go back to Road mode

This...I klapped it in dynamic the day i got my LC...an accidental small wheelie or two and you get use to it very quickly  :deal:
Yes I can attest to that. Tried dynamic today as pta is dry for a change. Will keep it for a week and then decide. At this stage I still like the progressive power of road mode



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Title: Re: 1200 LC Trophy edition
Post by: Zeeman on February 01, 2017, 06:54:23 pm
Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?

I don't really find them dull with those colors. To me it just looks almost to neat  ;D
But I was looking at this place to maybe order a design. I like understated though.

https://www.signaturecd.com/product-category/bmw/r1200gs-lc/sticker-kits/alpine-white-bmw-r1200gs-lc/

Quite like the M sport design - thanks Norm
Yes Meurig I agree.  After 6000k I had to replace my back tyre due to roadrage mode.  Now I also ride in RAIN mode.