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Title: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2016, 02:50:54 pm
This MUST be the year of #41!

I will be screaming myself hoarse for him. He has an excellent chance since he is the #1 rider (out of 2) in the #1 Moto 3 KTM Factory team. Although he was in the same team last year, the team fielded 3 riders and he was seen as the #2 rider.

His times for testing schedules over three days at Jerez in Spain this past weekend looks promising.  

Day 1:

 Session 1: 3rd
 Session 2: 7th


Day 2:

 Session 1: 7th
 Session 2: 1st

Day 3:

 Session 1: Not on track
 Session 2: 1st
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: ZK1 on March 07, 2016, 02:52:03 pm
Looking good!!

May luck also be on his side!
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: bud500 on March 07, 2016, 03:46:59 pm
Also rooting for him.   :thumleft:

Not sure if it was just me, but during the season last year I constantly got the impression his KTM lacked top end? He seemed to out brake almost anyone and carried great midcorner speed but then battled to even just stay in the Honda's slipstream.

This must be some of the best bike racing out there.
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2016, 06:20:25 pm
MotoGP I watch because of interest in the outcome.  Moto3 I watch for the awesome racing. 

The KTM did lack a bit of power last year.  Hopefully they have solved that for this year.
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: Tony the Boney on March 07, 2016, 06:33:00 pm
We wish him all the bestus. Trek jou vinger uit Brad.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 07, 2016, 08:10:10 pm
It will be so good to have a SA world champ in the main motorcycle leagues again!!

At least we won the PIG parade in Malaysia. :peepwall:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 07, 2016, 08:17:10 pm
It will be so good to have a SA world champ in the main motorcycle leagues again!!

At least we won the PIG parade GS Challenge  in Malaysia. :peepwall:

Corrected serious grammatical error.   :laughing4:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: 2StrokeDan on March 07, 2016, 08:52:19 pm
 :thumleft: :laughing4: ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 11, 2016, 08:00:07 pm
Brad Binder at Moto 3 Testing from Qatar:

Day I Session 1:

1st

Day 1 Session 2:

4th

Day 1 Session 3:

7th

Seems the hard rear tire they tested is not a good idea in terms of speed per lap.
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: Dogmatix on March 11, 2016, 08:36:38 pm
I'm curious whether they play the whole SA anthem when Brad takes his first victory or only the first bit.

Good luck #41 - been shouting myself horse since he started in Moto3
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2016, 09:04:10 am
I'm curious whether they play the whole SA anthem when Brad takes his first victory or only the first bit.

Good luck #41 - been shouting myself horse since he started in Moto3

They normally play only the first bit.  That may well be a good thing.  Imagine we had to listen to the whole Japanese anthem everytime a Japanese bike won!   :snorting:

When Brad won his first Red Bull Rookie Cup Race they played the wrong anthem.  Memory fails now which country it was.  Anyway, I am sure Dorna will have the right one ready now.
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2016, 09:21:41 am
Also worth a scream or two is #40 Darryn Binder.  This season he will ride a Mahindra again.  The curse of all racers, a "customer" Mahindra.  These bikes are just not competitive unless the team have a very, very rich sponsor.

His testing times from Qatar:


Day 1 Session 1:  21st
Day 1 Session 2:  20th
Day 1 Session 3:  28th  (Amazing about Moto 3.  This is only 2 seconds slower than P1!)

 
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 12, 2016, 10:27:51 pm
Brad Binder at Moto 3 Testing from Qatar:

Day 2 Session 1:

Brad: 1st
Darryn:  22nd

Day 2 Session 2:

Brad:  4th
Darryn:  11th

Day 2 Session 3:

Brad:  6th
Darryn:  21st

Seems the hard rear tire they tested is not a good idea in terms of speed per lap.
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 13, 2016, 07:11:00 pm
Binder bro's at Moto 3 Testing from Qatar:

Day 3 Session 1:

Brad: Not on track
Darryn:  Not on track

Day 3 Session 2:

Brad:  1
Darryn:  13

Day 3 Session 3:

Brad: 5
Darryn: 21
 
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: ZK1 on March 14, 2016, 09:23:20 am
I will try not to watch the races, because when I watch a rider that I really support things tend to go wrong for them, so I will watch the next day.

I really want Brad to have a good season!!
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 14, 2016, 09:33:38 am
I will try not to watch the races, because when I watch a rider that I really support things tend to go wrong for them, so I will watch the next day.

I really want Brad to have a good season!!

I often feel the same way!   :imaposer:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: ZK1 on March 14, 2016, 09:37:37 am
It always happened to Kevin Windham in AMA Supercross......sorry Kevin...
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 18, 2016, 10:38:48 am
Qatar:

FP1:  Brad 6 and Darryn 25
FP2:  Brad 6 and Darryn 27
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 18, 2016, 07:05:47 pm
Qatar:

FP3:

Brad - 2nd
Darryn - 30th
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: Frankrzzgp on March 21, 2016, 10:06:45 am
He almost had it! So close...
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: ZK1 on March 22, 2016, 09:02:02 am
Good start to the season!
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: punisher on March 22, 2016, 01:08:01 pm
Fantastic performance
Good racing

Hint: extract a few teeth , this will give him the weight saving and a few tenths of a second more .........he has lotsa teeth  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 22, 2016, 06:08:31 pm
0,007 seconds between Antonelli and Brad, 1st and 2nd.

Well done Bradical!
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: Serfie on March 23, 2016, 08:54:26 am
Well done Braddie Boy!!!! Edge of the seat stuff watching this opening round of the Moto3 race on Sunday> We will be screaming even harder for you next time!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: bud500 on March 23, 2016, 10:42:59 am
It was brilliant!
The man is a demon on the brakes.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on March 25, 2016, 12:36:18 pm
Quote from: Brad Binder
It was a race in which I was leading the group on almost every lap to try to take the victory. On the final laps I tried to ride the best line in order to keep my position and see if I could get some luck on the final straight. I pushed very hard but it was very tough as the straight is very long. I had to keep on the gas, and I gave my all, but it wasn't to be. I'm happy with this first podium and with the work done by the whole team this weekend. I want to thank them for that. There is a long season ahead, there are many races and a second place to start the season is fantastic.



Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on April 01, 2016, 02:59:50 pm
ARGENTINA:

Free Practise 1:  

Brad 3rd fastest
Darryn 18th

FP2:

Brad 4th
Darryn 26th

FP3:

Brad 2nd
Darryn 29th
Title: Re: 2016 Moto3 - Time for #41 Brad Binder?
Post by: TheBear on April 02, 2016, 06:28:18 pm
#41 Brad Binder:  POLE!!!

Well done Bradical!  Can't wait for tomorrow!   :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 03, 2016, 07:09:48 pm
Excellent third place Brad.  Very difficult race, well managed.  Seems the team, the bike, the experience and the technology has finally caught up with your talent.

Leading the championship by 5!  Nice!

#Bradical
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on April 03, 2016, 07:16:00 pm
Not bad under the circumstances Braddieboy...they must realize that you are a Soufaffrican and not used to a lot of rai!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Alsdad on April 03, 2016, 07:18:05 pm
Great race with a mature head! Well done Brad! :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on April 04, 2016, 08:41:16 am
 :thumleft: :thumleft:

Really consistant mature ride.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 04, 2016, 09:16:21 am
:thumleft: :thumleft:

Really consistant mature ride.

Interesting fact about Brad.  He is now the most experienced Moto3 rider in the field and the only one who started in every single Moto 3 race since the start of the class. 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on April 04, 2016, 09:31:55 am
:thumleft: :thumleft:

Really consistant mature ride.

Interesting fact about Brad.  He is now the most experienced Moto3 rider in the field and the only one who started in every single Moto 3 race since the start of the class. 

Wow! Suspected the first point but didn't know about the second.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 08, 2016, 05:29:02 pm
Texas, MotoGP of the Americas:

FP1:

Brad 7
Darryn 31

FP2:

Brad 14
Darryn 29

FP3:

Brad 9
Darryn 30

QP:

Brad 12  ???
Darryn 26
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on April 11, 2016, 07:42:07 am
Perhaps just not his day on this specific track, but nevertheless a consistent podium finish..better luck next time Braddie!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on April 11, 2016, 07:58:49 am
Even I could see the instability on his frontend... Not good. Hope they get it sorted.

But to finish first, first you must finish.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 09:41:46 am
Even I could see the instability on his frontend... Not good. Hope they get it sorted.

But to finish first, first you must finish.

Janee!  That KTM was a thoroughbred DOG this whole weekend.  When he chased for third you could actually see the chatter on TV.  I can only imagine what it felt like on the bike.  Starting 12th, finishing 3rd, still leading the championship is not bad at all.  Hopefully they will get the bike sorted for the European leg of the championship.  That being said, if we look at how the big boys struggled later that day, the track may well have been a big contributing factor.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Frankrzzgp on April 11, 2016, 09:59:48 am
Even I could see the instability on his frontend... Not good. Hope they get it sorted.

But to finish first, first you must finish.

Janee!  That KTM was a thoroughbred DOG this whole weekend.  When he chased for third you could actually see the chatter on TV.  I can only imagine what it felt like on the bike.  Starting 12th, finishing 3rd, still leading the championship is not bad at all.  Hopefully they will get the bike sorted for the European leg of the championship.  That being said, if we look at how the big boys struggled later that day, the track may well have been a big contributing factor.

Hard track to ride, and it seemed like the grip wasn't there... Everybody looked like they were riding on ice, the only one that actually played with the low grip and had a good race was MM
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 11, 2016, 10:18:35 am
Even I could see the instability on his frontend... Not good. Hope they get it sorted.

But to finish first, first you must finish.

Janee!  That KTM was a thoroughbred DOG this whole weekend.  When he chased for third you could actually see the chatter on TV.  I can only imagine what it felt like on the bike.  Starting 12th, finishing 3rd, still leading the championship is not bad at all.  Hopefully they will get the bike sorted for the European leg of the championship.  That being said, if we look at how the big boys struggled later that day, the track may well have been a big contributing factor.

Hard track to ride, and it seemed like the grip wasn't there... Everybody looked like they were riding on ice, the only one that actually played with the low grip and had a good race was MM

MM93 took a huge risk by going with the soft front tire.  Whereas this bit him in the arse last year in Argentina, this time it paid off handsomely.  We read MM!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 22, 2016, 06:39:38 pm
At Jerez in Spain this weekend:

FP1:

Brad 5th
Darryn 36th


FP2:

Brad 1st
Darryn 32nd
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 23, 2016, 09:49:23 am
FP3:

Brad:  1st
Darryn:  30th

Time difference between Brad and brother Darryn, 29 place back:  1,8 seconds!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on April 23, 2016, 01:07:19 pm
Go Brad :thumleft: Here's wishing him all the best!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 23, 2016, 01:26:41 pm
Qualified:

Brad: 2nd
Darryn: 30th
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: JonW on April 24, 2016, 11:37:33 am
Brad binder you biscuit

Title: Re:
Post by: Brink on April 24, 2016, 11:43:53 am
Awesome Brad

Ride to live. . . .
Title: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: BiG DoM on April 24, 2016, 11:45:30 am
Moto3 - what a race.  :thumleft: BB takes first GP win  :ricky:  First South African Grand Prix winner in 35 years! Boytjie leading the series.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 11:46:07 am
BRADical!  MAGICAL!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Welsh on April 24, 2016, 11:58:27 am
BRADical!  MAGICAL!!!
the way he walked away from the field, I would think that motor is being torn down as we speak. 😎
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: JonW on April 24, 2016, 11:58:31 am
how proud are we of Brad Binder right now?

first South African to win a Moto GP race in 35 years

What an incredible race it was
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on April 24, 2016, 11:59:42 am
That was a fantastic ride by Brad!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Casting from Turd on April 24, 2016, 12:00:37 pm
how proud are we of Brad Binder right now?

first South African to win a Moto GP race in 35 years

What an incredible race it was

And from the back of the grid.
Whoop whoop . Well DONE Brad
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on April 24, 2016, 12:01:08 pm
BRADical!  MAGICAL!!!
the way he walked away from the field, I would think that motor is being torn down as we speak. 😎

I'm sure you're right on the engine strip down!
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: Oshkosh on April 24, 2016, 12:01:36 pm
Moto3 - what a race.  :thumleft: BB takes first GP win  :ricky:  First South African Grand Prix winner in 35 years! Only 16 years old. Boytjie leading the series.

Great race!! He started from the back of the Grid because of some infringement & finished First "Awesome"!!!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: BiG DoM on April 24, 2016, 12:02:33 pm
Moto3 - what a race.  :thumleft: BB takes first GP win  :ricky:  First South African Grand Prix winner in 35 years! Only 16 years old. Boytjie leading the series.

Great race!! He started from the back of the Grid because of some infringement & finished First "Awesome"!!!  :thumleft:

Ja a technical infringement - nothing to do with the jockey.
Title: Brad Binder...
Post by: ethanvr on April 24, 2016, 12:04:33 pm
What a ride, first SA win in 35 years and that from 35th on the grid.

Well done.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 12:08:46 pm
BRADical!   MAGICAL!!!
the way he walked away from the field, I would think that motor is being torn down as we speak. 😎

No doubt.  Top three get strip down after every race anyway.  

That being said, they may use (not sure abut rules this year) the sealed engine system and then they will only strip if there is an official protest, the telemetry show something untoward, or the TC's picked up something.  Also, first step would be a dyno run.  If dyno shows power figures to be expected they won't strip.
Title: Re: Brad Binder...
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 12:11:13 pm
#Bradical!

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=189287.msg3549866#new (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=189287.msg3549866#new)
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 12:12:59 pm
Moto3 - what a race.  :thumleft: BB takes first GP win  :ricky:  First South African Grand Prix winner in 35 years! Only 16 years old. Boytjie leading the series.

Brad is 20 Mr Dom.    :thumleft:

Brilliant race! 

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=189287.msg3549866#new (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=189287.msg3549866#new)
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: BiG DoM on April 24, 2016, 12:24:19 pm
Sorry missed that thread in the racing section  ::)
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: I&horse on April 24, 2016, 12:28:34 pm
Brilliant Binder! I have no nails left. What was the infringement? Something to do with the electronics?
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 12:29:43 pm
Sorry missed that thread in the racing section  ::)

No problem with starting a new thread on something as hot as this.  I just thought, since you are interested you would enjoy that thread and the discussions there.  :thumleft:

You need to excuse me.  Due to my race bike scrtuneering days I got to know Brad, Darryn and Dad Binder, so I get a tad overly excited .....
Title: Re: Brad Binder 1st from 35 on grid!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 12:31:06 pm
Brilliant Binder! I have no nails left. What was the infringement? Something to do with the electronics?

They used a "non-homologated" ECU.  This does not necessarily mean it is illegal.  It could have been one, not stamped and sealed by the authorities.  Stupid mistake by the team technicians.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on April 24, 2016, 01:45:28 pm
Brad you biscuit. One for the history books!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 24, 2016, 02:47:43 pm
Brilliant stuff Brad!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: chewey on April 24, 2016, 03:18:31 pm
Awesome stuff Brad.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 06:18:54 pm
I wonder if Brad allowed the techie responsible for the ECU error, to remove the offending ECU from his posterior after the race win?    :imaposer:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on April 24, 2016, 06:49:13 pm
I watched the whole race again from the rear facing camera on his bike. (I have a Motogp account and it has optional camera views from multiple riders) Twice he had guys outbraking themselves and nearly taking him off. He was super lucky with the first one as it was a pretty decent hit and the guy went on to skittle others out of the race. He also had a few rubs with others whilst passing on the inside.

His win was an epic thing, but he also got a little bit of luck to help him along. His self belief has noticeably risen a notch or two!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Sithe on April 24, 2016, 06:51:23 pm
BRADical!   MAGICAL!!!
the way he walked away from the field, I would think that motor is being torn down as we speak. 😎

No doubt.  Top three get strip down after every race anyway.  


Who strips the bikes down, race control, when? I am sure there is data logging and download but I don't believe the strip down part.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 07:22:15 pm
BRADical!   MAGICAL!!!
the way he walked away from the field, I would think that motor is being torn down as we speak. 😎

No doubt.  Top three get strip down after every race anyway.  


Who strips the bikes down, race control, when? I am sure there is data logging and download but I don't believe the strip down part.

Quote from: TheBear

No doubt.  Top three get possible strip down after every race anyway.  

That being said, they may use (not sure abut rules this year) the sealed engine system and then they will only strip if there is an official protest, the telemetry show something untoward, or the TC's picked up something.  Also, first step would be a dyno run.  If dyno shows power figures to be expected they won't strip.


You are correct.  I did not express myself properly in the first sentence (please see edit).  I thought my second would explain properly.  If stripped (note the bold part of my post as well), it will be done by a selected and accredited workshop, under supervision of Race Direction, within a specified period.  I don't know what that period is in this series.  

These days, "cheating" with engine mods is very rare.  There is a few reasons for that:

-  Many classes (Moto3 is one) are Claimed Rules Classes.  This means any team can claim your engine after a race.  The fee last year was E20k.  You cannot refuse if your engine is claimed.  
-  Engines are sealed.
-  Engines are carefully watched during the season as you have a limited number you can use.
-  Hardware changing on an engine already at the limit have a huge impact in reliability.

Where "cheating" does take place is with electronics.  For instance, all Moto 3 bikes have an upper rev limit rule.  If your ECU allow only a few hundred more revs it will make a marked difference.  This is carefully controlled and reasonably easily checked.  The reason why Brad started last on the grid today.


The procedure after a race is roughly:

-  Top three bikes go to Parc Ferme and stay there till released by race direction.  Teams are not allowed any work on them there.
-  After a specified period (30 minutes in SA) the bikes are released to the teams if there were no protests. 
-  Race Direction can and do request checks on the bikes while in Parc Ferme.  The Scrutineers will do these checks.  It could be seals on the engine, is the specified tires on the bike, etc.
-  If something is found, or there is a protest, the bikes can be impounded for further inspection.  This could lead to dyno runs and even engine stripping.



 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on April 24, 2016, 08:25:10 pm
I watched the whole race again from the rear facing camera on his bike. (I have a Motogp account and it has optional camera views from multiple riders) Twice he had guys outbraking themselves and nearly taking him off. He was super lucky with the first one as it was a pretty decent hit and the guy went on to skittle others out of the race. He also had a few rubs with others whilst passing on the inside.

His win was an epic thing, but he also got a little bit of luck to help him along. His self belief has noticeably risen a notch or two!

The more you practice the luckier you get  :biggrin:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 24, 2016, 08:34:34 pm
You start last on the grid in a class this competitive, then you pass every single rider to win????

Sorry boet, please go check that ECU again for us. :imaposer:

Seriously, if you struggle to pass your opponents in the top 5 places in any normal race, how on earth do you start last, then CATCH UP to them, the still passes them??

I am sceptical.

[but proud]
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 08:45:05 pm
You start last on the grid in a class this competitive, then you pass every single rider to win????

Sorry boet, please go check that ECU again for us. :imaposer:

Seriously, if you struggle to pass your opponents in the top 5 places in any normal race, how on earth do you start last, then CATCH UP to them, the still passes them??

I am sceptical.

[but proud]

It happens.

Marc Marquez, 2012, Moto2, Valencia.  Last (33rd) to first.
Danny Kent, 2014 or 2015, Moto3.  Can't remember the details, or find it on Google right now.

Interestingly, two riders did all their Free Practise runs on old tires this past weekend.  Valentino Rossi and Brad Binder.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on April 24, 2016, 08:53:46 pm
You start last on the grid in a class this competitive, then you pass every single rider to win????

Sorry boet, please go check that ECU again for us. :imaposer:

Seriously, if you struggle to pass your opponents in the top 5 places in any normal race, how on earth do you start last, then CATCH UP to them, the still passes them??

I am sceptical.

[but proud]

I have watched the race a few times now from a few perspectives. There are a few noticeable things;

His bike on the slower riders is quicker at the top end, I presume has an HP advantage. He was dragging away from them out of the turns. This is not the case when he got to the front runners.
He makes large gains on everyone under braking. It's meters at a time with the slower guys. When he gets to the faster guys, his rear steps out under braking more than the other guys and he holds tighter lines. So his braking is where large chunks of time was made up.
Lastly, his bike is much steadier through the corners than the others, he must have nailed his suspension setup.

Check out the leaderboard!

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Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 09:12:25 pm
Brad did have the highest top speed on the day.  0,2km/h faster than the riders who finished 2, 3 and 4.  His fastest lap was only 0.263, 0.336 and 0.375 faster than the guys who finished behind him.    His bike was therefore not that much faster.  The big difference is that he was consistently faster.  Like the commentator said: "An angry Brad is a very fast Brad".  This could be seen as you mentioned, under braking and lines through corners.

Brad's brother, on a dog of a bike, made it from 31st to 14th before he crashed.   Also a rather amazing climb through the field.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Jag man on April 24, 2016, 09:51:56 pm
You start last on the grid in a class this competitive, then you pass every single rider to win????

Sorry boet, please go check that ECU again for us. :imaposer:

Seriously, if you struggle to pass your opponents in the top 5 places in any normal race, how on earth do you start last, then CATCH UP to them, the still passes them??

I am sceptical.

[but proud]
Take the win and see the future
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 24, 2016, 10:05:06 pm
You start last on the grid in a class this competitive, then you pass every single rider to win????

Sorry boet, please go check that ECU again for us. :imaposer:

Seriously, if you struggle to pass your opponents in the top 5 places in any normal race, how on earth do you start last, then CATCH UP to them, the still passes them??

I am sceptical.

[but proud]
Take the win and see the future

+1

If there was anything untoward about the bike, scrutineering will pick it up.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: whitedelight on April 25, 2016, 12:33:22 am
This is what he needed the most. Now he knows he can win, I reckon he gonna be a force to reckon with this season. I was just amazed his tyres lasted so well.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 07:10:46 am
This is what he needed the most. Now he knows he can win, I reckon he gonna be a force to reckon with this season. I was just amazed his tyres lasted so well.

Don't get me wrong, to me this is one amazing achievement, especially special since he is SAcan. It is just that even if he started in front, could he, in this class, make up the sort of gap that he did this time?
OK, I know he did, because he started last and won, it is just so amazing.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on April 25, 2016, 07:15:12 am
Agreed, but it's been done in the past probably more than you think.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on April 25, 2016, 07:57:16 am
Well all that remains for me is to say BRAD...JY IS N BLIKSEM!!!!  :biggrin:...doet so voort  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on April 25, 2016, 08:20:58 am
Twice he had guys outbraking themselves and nearly taking him off. He was super lucky with the first one as it was a pretty decent hit

Was that hit not from his brother Darren? I think Sheridan commented on FB that it was his brother giving him the hurry up.... :lol8:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ZK1 on April 25, 2016, 08:43:06 am
Awesome stuff, glad I couldn't watch it.........because I'm bad luck if I watch races.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 09:12:48 am
Twice he had guys outbraking themselves and nearly taking him off. He was super lucky with the first one as it was a pretty decent hit

Was that hit not from his brother Darren? I think Sheridan commented on FB that it was his brother giving him the hurry up.... :lol8:

I am not sure.  It could have been, but not enough replays to check the numbers and be sure.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on April 25, 2016, 09:17:40 am
Agreed, but it's been done in the past probably more than you think.


Marc Marquez did it for the exact same team - Red Bull KTM Ajo - (I think it was at Assen in 2010).

He started from the back and had to fight right to the finish line against the front runners. There were far less to overtake that day though. I think only about 20.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on April 25, 2016, 09:43:25 am
BRAD...... YOU BISCUIT!!!!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 09:48:08 am
Reason for Brad's penalty is described by MotoGP writers as "farcical".  The KTM techie made changes to the mapping for wet weather on the correct ECU. He then downloaded that to a memory stick and send to Race Control.  He saved the file under the wrong name and voila!  Software Infringement.  This map was supplied by KTM and it is assumed that many KTM's ran that map, but only the fastest 3 is checked.  Bad luck for Brad.  Thankfully it all worked out well.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 12:15:00 pm
Reason for Brad's penalty is described by MotoGP writers as "farcical".  The KTM techie made changes to the mapping for wet weather on the correct ECU. He then downloaded that to a memory stick and send to Race Control.  He saved the file under the wrong name and voila!  Software Infringement.  This map was supplied by KTM and it is assumed that many KTM's ran that map, but only the fastest 3 is checked.  Bad luck for Brad.  Thankfully it all worked out well.

Not farcical at all, if every team starts saving maps under wrong names, code names and no names, how will it be tracked/controlled? Like Tour de Farce.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 07:52:52 pm
Reason for Brad's penalty is described by MotoGP writers as "farcical".  The KTM techie made changes to the mapping for wet weather on the correct ECU. He then downloaded that to a memory stick and send to Race Control.  He saved the file under the wrong name and voila!  Software Infringement.  This map was supplied by KTM and it is assumed that many KTM's ran that map, but only the fastest 3 is checked.  Bad luck for Brad.  Thankfully it all worked out well.

Not farcical at all, if every team starts saving maps under wrong names, code names and no names, how will it be tracked/controlled? Like Tour de Farce.

I just quoted the journalist.   Whether we use the term farcical, or super fair, what s important is that it was a mistake and not cheating. 

Just an update:

Marc Marquez did a last to first twice. 

2010, Estoril, 125GP from 28th to first
2012, Valencia, Moto2 from 31st to first.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 25, 2016, 07:57:31 pm
Thanks Bear, it then seems like Brad is in good company.

I'll watch him keenly on his journey forward. Very interesting to see how riders make the jump from Moto3 to Moto2 to MotoGP.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 25, 2016, 09:03:06 pm
Thanks Bear, it then seems like Brad is in good company.

I'll watch him keenly on his journey forward. Very interesting to see how riders make the jump from Moto3 to Moto2 to MotoGP.

I have been following him for some years now and am hoping like hades that he will do well this year.  His whole family have worked very hard to get him where he is today.  

It is a fact that to be competitive you need a good bike, backed by a very good team and sponsors.  Aki Ajo, owner of the team Brad rides for now, also owns the Moto 2 team with which Zarco became the 2015 Moto 2 World Champion.  A natural progression for Brad would be to the Ajo Moto2 team as Aki likes Brad and if he does well this year, Aki may well use him in his Moto 2 team next year.

  
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Jag man on April 26, 2016, 09:36:11 am
Thanks Bear, it then seems like Brad is in good company.

I'll watch him keenly on his journey forward. Very interesting to see how riders make the jump from Moto3 to Moto2 to MotoGP.

I have been following him for some years now and am hoping like hades that he will do well this year.  His whole family have worked very hard to get him where he is today.  

It is a fact that to be competitive you need a good bike, backed by a very good team and sponsors.  Aki Ajo, owner of the team Brad rides for now, also owns the Moto 2 team with which Zarco became the 2015 Moto 2 World Champion.  A natural progression for Brad would be to the Ajo Moto2 team as Aki likes Brad and if he does well this year, Aki may well use him in his Moto 2 team next year.

  Holding thumbs all the way.Go Brad.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on April 26, 2016, 04:35:06 pm
I only got to watch it last night, and even though I knew the outcome, I still bit my nails finished.

It really was a dominant display.

I just hope his talent is the thing that is noticed in the future, and not how much money he can attract.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on April 27, 2016, 09:28:50 am
I only got to watch it last night, and even though I knew the outcome, I still bit my nails finished.

It really was a dominant display.

I just hope his talent is the thing that is noticed in the future, and not how much money he can attract.


His talent has been noted I think. I had guys (acquaintances) from America asking me if I was South African and did I see the race.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 09:30:41 am
I only got to watch it last night, and even though I knew the outcome, I still bit my nails finished.

It really was a dominant display.

I just hope his talent is the thing that is noticed in the future, and not how much money he can attract.


At least one, very clever, guy noted his talent a few years ago.  Aki Ajo, owner of the Red Bull KTM Ajo Team!   :thumleft:

The rest will now follow.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 09:34:00 am
Just watched again.  Brad was clipped hard by #40 Darryn Binder.   Man alive!  Can you imagine he was taken out by his brother. 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 27, 2016, 10:16:35 am
After such a long post-Jon period of no motorcycle world class riders, I immediately thought that this was a Hansie Cronje type thing, of course I could
not figure how he could have cheated. :-[  :eek7:
But I guess I can start rooting for a geniune world champion possibility here?

He is also on the traditionally correct path for eventual MotoGP success.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 27, 2016, 10:40:04 am
After such a long post-Jon period of no motorcycle world class riders, I immediately thought that this was a Hansie Cronje type thing, of course I could
not figure how he could have cheated. :-[  :eek7:
But I guess I can start rooting for a geniune world champion possibility here?

He is also on the traditionally correct path for eventual MotoGP success.

Sies man!  The world of motorcycle racing is singing his praises, but Saffers are thinking ugly stuff.  Go wash out your mouth with soap immediately, or else!   ;D

He is on the right path and for that we need to take our hats off to Dad and Mom Binder.  Dad is a very clever man and thinks strategy and long term.  I watched them work through the South African regional classes from 50cc onward, then the national classes, always concentrating in the 125GP class.  Then Brad qualified for the Rookies Cup and for two years mom flew over with Brad for every Rookies Cup race. 

Back here Dad was walking Darryn through the various 125GP classes.  He also had Darryn race in the 250 Cup on a Honda instead of a Kawasaki.  This made Darryn work real hard just for a top 5 place.  Dad had noted that with Brad ruling the roost here, he had forgotten how to dog fight and he wasn't fit enough for 25 lap races as our races were just 10 laps.  Darryn scored from that as he now raced 4 10 lap races a day in SA, one class on an underpowered, slow bike.

Brad got into a Moto3 team and Dad and mom decided on a "separation".  Mom and Brad moved to Spain where they bought a house, while Dad stayed here with Darryn.  As soon as Darryn ruled the roost here, they send him to try and qualify for the Rookies Cup.  He qualified and raced Rookies Cup for 2 years.  At the time Brad did okay, but struggled with the Mahindra.  Dad flew over taking his SA Championship Honda suspension with to fit to the Mahindra.  Rumours are that Dad poured R1.5m into that Mahindra to make it more competitive.  Brad finished 11th and 6th in the Championship with this.  That team offered Brad a Moto 2 ride for 2015 and 2016, but they rather accepted the Moto 3 ride from Red Bull KTM Ajo.  Dad managed to get Darryn into the Mahindra team spot that Brad vacated when he went to KTM. 

Mom, Darryn and Brad now lives in Spain, while Dad still commutes as he is running a very successful business here in SA.

I am reasonably sure that when Brad does move from Moto 3, it will be to a proper Moto2 team instead of a 3rd string MotoGP team  With luck Brad will take Zarco's place on the Aki Ajo owned Moto2 bike on which Zarco won the championship last year.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Tony the Boney on April 27, 2016, 04:07:31 pm
Thanks for that info Bear!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Roxtar on April 28, 2016, 03:49:04 pm
An awsome display of talent and high time for Saffers to showcase our talent on the world stage.......... :thumleft: Hopefully this can open the door for more of our youngsters in future and serve as inspiration for those to come...

GO BRAD :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 28, 2016, 04:00:49 pm
An awsome display of talent and high time for Saffers to showcase our talent on the world stage.......... :thumleft: Hopefully this can open the door for more of our youngsters in future and serve as inspiration for those to come...

GO BRAD :thumleft:

We don't have anyone in the Rookies Cup (MotoGP development - all ride identical Moto3 KTM) this year, but we do have Troy Bezuidenhout and Byron Bester in the Junior Cup (WSBK Development - all ride identical 650 Hondas).  We also have Steven Odendaal getting VERY ready in the Moto 2 Spanish Championship.  Last year we had Troy Bezuidenhout, Dorren Loreiro and Fikile Khumalo in the Junior Cup, but nobody in the Rookies Cup.  In 2014 we did have Darryn Binder and Hanro van Rooyen in Rookies Cup.

The problem is it takes huge  money to get there and even more to stay there and SA Companies just do not sponsor.  The youngster's parents basically pay, pay, pay and pay some more until the reach a stage like Brad.  Up to then, you need bucks.  Lots of it.  Into the millions.

Example on how it costs.  During late 2014 Sherdan Morias secured a 600 Supersport ride with the Honda CIA Landlord insurance Team belonging to Simon Buckmaster.  Contract was signed, sealed an delivered.  About two weeks before the start of the season, Sheridan received an e-mail from Buckmaster stating that he is out and Gino Rea was in, unless Sheridan could bring a bigger cash injection than Gino.  Gino raced the bike that year.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on April 29, 2016, 07:39:26 am
With things like that, I guess we will never really know which rider is really the best in the world in any given season hey...  :-\
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on April 29, 2016, 07:50:44 am
With things like that, I guess we will never really know which rider is really the best in the world in any given season hey...  :-\

The cost is what probably make a few potential world champions fall through the holes. It is horrendous.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on April 29, 2016, 10:59:19 am
With things like that, I guess we will never really know which rider is really the best in the world in any given season hey...  :-\

Sad, but true.  Three things make the difference.  

-  Money, lots of it.  At the start of your career, YOU PAY to ride the bike.
-  Careful career planning.  Even Rossi, when offered a MotoGP (500cc at the time) ride rejected the offer and stayed in Moto 2 (250GP at the time). Get the experience first.  Always!
-  The right team.  For instance an extremely talented rider like Cal Crutchlow finds himself in a 3rd string team and the results show it.

It helps when you start winning.  Watch Brad Binder this year.  Unless something goes seriously wrong, he will get better and better.  A big part will be his talent and tenacity.  A big part will be that KTM will pour everything they have into Brad's bike first.  


The cost is what probably make a few potential world champions fall through the holes. It is horrendous.

Jip.  Madness.  The first year a Moto 3 bike (Darryn Binder's) arrived in SA the cost was (I actually saw the invoice):

-  Race ready bike:  R350 000.00
-  Extra engine (engine good for 10 hours):  R60 000.00  (Spare engine was mandatory)
-  Starter unit required due to the clutch setup on the bike:  R25 000.00  (You could push start, but starter unit was mandatory)
-  Total:  R435 000.00 to stand on the grid.  You have not raced yet.  This in the class where youngsters are supposed to start racing.  The cheap class.

 Sommer so, for interest sakes.

As the Moto 3 replaced the 125GP in SA, the class basically died as very few could afford the above prices and the 125GP bikes couldn't compete anymore.  One Dad, probably a decendent of MacGyver made a plan.  He took a Honda CRF230 engine.  Souped it up as much as he could and slapped it in a Moriwaki 125GP frame.  Then send son racing in Moto 3.  Although, by then there were seldomly more than 6 bikes on the grid, at end of season the kid was 2nd in the championship with his Honda Moriwaki CRF230 bike!  Amazing.

The darn issue is that in a country like SA where we are not rolling in cash, we start other, more affordable classes.  Something like the 250 Cup.  All Kawasakis.  Awesome racing.  The kids however are at a huge disadvantage against the Spanish, Italian, tec. counterparts when they arrive in Rookies Cup of Junior Cup as they are not experienced in proper race bikes.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 06, 2016, 01:22:05 pm
Onward they go.  Le Mans, France this weekend.

FP1:

Brad:  10
Darryn: 31

FP2:

Brad: 1
Darryn: 23

FP3:

Brad: 5
Darryn: 30

QP:

Brad:  2
Darryn:  22
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 07, 2016, 01:23:31 pm
I always check how many bikes in the first second.  The Le Mans Moto 3 QP there is 1 second between P1 and P24!

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on May 07, 2016, 11:54:10 pm
I always check how many bikes in the first second.  The Le Mans Moto 3 QP there is 1 second between P1 and P24!



Hectic!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on May 08, 2016, 11:53:39 am
Great Ride!

Bear, great insights.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: SteveD on May 08, 2016, 01:04:13 pm
Brad you biscuit  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 08, 2016, 01:13:22 pm
Brad you boykie!  Battling like that and winning is no mean feat and that on a bike that was build in the 2 hours or so between Warm-Up and the Race.  Lekker man!

Hats off the Red Bull KTM Ajo Team for not taking the risk with the bike causing intermittent issues.  How the hell they slap together a new bike in two hours that can win a race I struggle to understand.  Yes, I know they have everything and when we say "build a new bike" it was probably from a rolling chassis up.  Still?

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on May 08, 2016, 05:09:41 pm
very clever rider, didn't get himself phased at all during the race and made the right move at the right time.

1st ever SA Motogp world champion in the making?
I really hope so

and what a nice guy

Bear, your insight and knowledge is a pleasure to read, thanks :thumleft: :thumleft:

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on May 08, 2016, 05:10:55 pm
Brad the  man :thumleft: :ricky:

WOW what a boytjie :lol8: :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 08, 2016, 05:50:58 pm
very clever rider, didn't get himself phased at all during the race and made the right move at the right time.

1st ever SA Motogp world champion in the making?
I really hope so

and what a nice guy

Bear, your insight and knowledge is a pleasure to read, thanks :thumleft: :thumleft:



Thanks for the kind words.

We have had a MotoGP champ in the past though.  Jon Ekerold:  1980 350cc World Champion.  One of very few ever privateer champions.  He won the title on a "DIY" bike.  Yamaha engine in a Bimota frame that he build himself.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 08, 2016, 06:59:10 pm
A very happy Dad (Trevor) with Brad after today's race.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on May 08, 2016, 10:29:02 pm
very clever rider, didn't get himself phased at all during the race and made the right move at the right time.

1st ever SA Motogp world champion in the making?
I really hope so

and what a nice guy

Bear, your insight and knowledge is a pleasure to read, thanks :thumleft: :thumleft:



Thanks for the kind words.

We have had a MotoGP champ in the past though.  Jon Ekerold:  1980 350cc World Champion.  One of very few ever privateer champions.  He won the title on a "DIY" bike.  Yamaha engine in a Bimota frame that he build himself.



Kork Ballington?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 05:52:03 am
very clever rider, didn't get himself phased at all during the race and made the right move at the right time.

1st ever SA Motogp world champion in the making?
I really hope so

and what a nice guy

Bear, your insight and knowledge is a pleasure to read, thanks :thumleft: :thumleft:



Thanks for the kind words.

We have had a MotoGP champ in the past though.  Jon Ekerold:  1980 350cc World Champion.  One of very few ever privateer champions.  He won the title on a "DIY" bike.  Yamaha engine in a Bimota frame that he build himself.



Kork Ballington?

Kork was one of the very few riders to win a double (250 and 350) championship in one year and he did it twice in the late 70's.  Whether he is a SA is debatable as he was born in what was then Southern Rhodesia.

EDIT:

I just checked the MotoGP website and they show him as RSA.  Who am I to argue?  Jon Ekerold and Kork Ballington!   :deal:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on May 09, 2016, 07:06:57 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on May 09, 2016, 08:43:18 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?

I think the funds are now absorbed by Darren...
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 08:46:12 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?

I can't say for 100% sure as I don't have any inside info, but  I reckon they have reached "return on investment" phase.  During last year (his first with this team) he probably got close to RoI.  This year his helmet lost the SA flag for the Red Bull logo and you always see him with a can of Red Bull in hand it showed that he is now a Red Bull sponsored rider, meaning he is earning a salary and sponsorship companies are knocking on his door.

It is amazing to see how his fan base (sponsor value) skyrocketed.  Previous years, if MotoGP posted something about Brad there would be a couple of 100 likes.  This year it is into the 1000's within minutes.  
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on May 09, 2016, 08:46:46 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 08:48:57 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?

I think the funds are now absorbed by Darren...

Indeed.  I cannot see Dad being happy with Darryn struggling out of the points.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 08:51:16 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull. 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on May 09, 2016, 08:57:24 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull. 
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 09:19:46 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull. 
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.

For sure.  The bigger leagues must be on the cards, even if only in the top 3 of the championship.  My scenario and this is more me wishful thinking than any stated fact:

1.  Ajo Motorsport Moto 2 rider, Johann Zarco, moves on to MotoGP as suggested by rumours.
2.  Brad is already a member of the Ajo Motorsport team, albeit Moto 3.  Works with Aki Ajo, the team owner on a daily basis.
3.  Zarco on he Ajo Moto 2 bike is reigning world Champion and currently 3rd in the championship, so the bike is on par.
4.  Aki Ajo likes Brad.
5.  Brad is performing for Ajo Motorsport.
6.  You see where I am going with this?   >:D
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on May 09, 2016, 09:24:21 am
AND...then, who knows, perhaps take on the younger Binder brother on Brad's Moto3 bike?????????
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on May 09, 2016, 09:27:21 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull. 
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.

For sure.  The bigger leagues must be on the cards, even if only in the top 3 of the championship.  My scenario and this is more me wishful thinking than any stated fact:

1.  Ajo Motorsport Moto 2 rider, Johann Zarco, moves on to MotoGP as suggested by rumours.
2.  Brad is already a member of the Ajo Motorsport team, albeit Moto 3.  Works with Aki Ajo, the team owner on a daily basis.
3.  Zarco on he Ajo Moto 2 bike is reigning world Champion and currently 3rd in the championship, so the bike is on par.
4.  Aki Ajo likes Brad.
5.  Brad is performing for Ajo Motorsport.
6.  You see where I am going with this?   >:D
AND KTM have a Moto2 bike coming in 2017, may be a spot for the lad.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 09:42:16 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull.  
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.

For sure.  The bigger leagues must be on the cards, even if only in the top 3 of the championship.  My scenario and this is more me wishful thinking than any stated fact:

1.  Ajo Motorsport Moto 2 rider, Johann Zarco, moves on to MotoGP as suggested by rumours.
2.  Brad is already a member of the Ajo Motorsport team, albeit Moto 3.  Works with Aki Ajo, the team owner on a daily basis.
3.  Zarco on he Ajo Moto 2 bike is reigning world Champion and currently 3rd in the championship, so the bike is on par.
4.  Aki Ajo likes Brad.
5.  Brad is performing for Ajo Motorsport.
6.  You see where I am going with this?   >:D
AND KTM have a Moto2 bike coming in 2017, may be a spot for the lad.

KTM in Moto2 is a surprise?   Can't believe see KTM will build a bike and then use a Honda engine, however it seems it is on the cards.  Weird though.  It is for this very reason that Aprilia, etc. are not in Moto 2.

Then again, these days KTM is HOT ad badge engineering.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on May 09, 2016, 09:45:23 am
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull.  
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.

For sure.  The bigger leagues must be on the cards, even if only in the top 3 of the championship.  My scenario and this is more me wishful thinking than any stated fact:

1.  Ajo Motorsport Moto 2 rider, Johann Zarco, moves on to MotoGP as suggested by rumours.
2.  Brad is already a member of the Ajo Motorsport team, albeit Moto 3.  Works with Aki Ajo, the team owner on a daily basis.
3.  Zarco on he Ajo Moto 2 bike is reigning world Champion and currently 3rd in the championship, so the bike is on par.
4.  Aki Ajo likes Brad.
5.  Brad is performing for Ajo Motorsport.
6.  You see where I am going with this?   >:D
AND KTM have a Moto2 bike coming in 2017, may be a spot for the lad.

KTM in Moto2 is a surprise?   Can't believe see KTM will build a bike and then use a Honda engine, however it seems it is on the cards.  Weird though.  It is for this very reason that Aprilia, etc. are not in Moto 2.

Then again, these days KTM is HOT ad badge engineering.
Apparently it is being called the WP project, KTM frame and WP suspension. Read the article in MCN.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 02:28:16 pm
Bear, now that Brad is in this team and doing this well, does his racing still cost Dad at all?

Or, is this self sustaining with a bit of a return on investment so to speak?
He is fully contracted to KTM and he is paid to race.

True, but that is not big bucks.  The highest paid MotoGP riders like Rossi, Lorenzo and Marquez do not even make the top 100 list of highest paid sportmen.  The really good money comes via a contract with a personal big sponsor like Red Bull.  
True story, fortunately he is a RedBull sponsored rider, but they don't get the money the Big Boys get, however he will not be getting peanuts and certainly could be on for the bigger leagues if he can win the championship.

For sure.  The bigger leagues must be on the cards, even if only in the top 3 of the championship.  My scenario and this is more me wishful thinking than any stated fact:

1.  Ajo Motorsport Moto 2 rider, Johann Zarco, moves on to MotoGP as suggested by rumours.
2.  Brad is already a member of the Ajo Motorsport team, albeit Moto 3.  Works with Aki Ajo, the team owner on a daily basis.
3.  Zarco on he Ajo Moto 2 bike is reigning world Champion and currently 3rd in the championship, so the bike is on par.
4.  Aki Ajo likes Brad.
5.  Brad is performing for Ajo Motorsport.
6.  You see where I am going with this?   >:D
AND KTM have a Moto2 bike coming in 2017, may be a spot for the lad.

KTM in Moto2 is a surprise?   Can't believe see KTM will build a bike and then use a Honda engine, however it seems it is on the cards.  Weird though.  It is for this very reason that Aprilia, etc. are not in Moto 2.

Then again, these days KTM is HOT ad badge engineering.
Apparently it is being called the WP project, KTM frame and WP suspension. Read the article in MCN.

I have read it.  Basically KTM becomes a bike builder like Kalex, Suter and Moriwaki.  To me it is an exciting thought.  They are saying, we can beat you all, even if we had the same engine.  Brave, but cool.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on May 09, 2016, 07:10:53 pm
So ktm is putting a bike into moto 2 not motogp?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 07:26:05 pm
So ktm is putting a bike into moto 2 not motogp?

No.  They are putting bikes into MotoGP.  That is for sure and confirmed and they are full blown MotoGP bikes. Bradley Smith is one factory rider already signed for 2017 and 2018.  They are also testing extensively already with test riders this year is  Randy de Puniet, Mika Kallio, Alex Hofmann and Thomas Luthi.

Moto 2 is another development.  Basically WP Performance Systems who build the bike Johann Zarco won the 2015 Moto 2 championship on belongs to the same mother company that owns KTM.  They are working on a Moto 2 bike for next year.  I don't know if it will be badged KTM though.  It may well be.  KTM is masters at badge engineering, as we see KTM, Husqvarna and Peugeot bikes in Moto 3 which are all badge engineered.

WP also builds all Rookie Cup KTM bikes as well as the Moto 3 KTM's.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 09, 2016, 08:07:26 pm
Brad won this race just to shut me up. :thumleft:

So very well done, and like it was said before, we can look forward to the very high possibility of a Moto3 SA world champion, and then onwards..... :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 09, 2016, 08:47:32 pm
Brad won this race just to shut me up. :thumleft:



Ja.  I called him and said: "You shut 2SD up and I will let you ride my GS."   :imaposer:

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 09, 2016, 09:01:36 pm
Brad won this race just to shut me up. :thumleft:



Ja.  I called him and said: "You shut 2SD up and I will let you ride my GS."   :imaposer:



GS1000G or S? :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 10, 2016, 10:00:46 am
Brad won this race just to shut me up. :thumleft:



Ja.  I called him and said: "You shut 2SD up and I will let you ride my GS."   :imaposer:



GS1000G or S? :thumleft:

Hmmm ... he clearly only shut you up for a day ...   :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 19, 2016, 01:07:03 pm
Quote from: Brad Binder


MotoGP Italy: Finding the rhythm aiding Binder’s title push



Brad Binder believes a shifting of his focus across the race weekend is the major reason behind his recent surge in form that has seen the South African claim back-to-back grand prix victories and lead the Moto3 world championship.

The elder of the two Binder brothers that are currently competing in the series, Brad recently revealed to Crash.net how he used to pay too much attention to his placing in free practice sessions, rather than bike set-up and consistency during race runs.

A more rounded approach, in which he pushes “on every lap, alone” over a race weekend was also a consequence of a settled winter of testing, which yielded “an incredible base setting” on his Red Bull Ajo KTM.

The results have been impressive: five podiums from five races, and two recent wins, including that breathtaking ride in Jerez, which saw him climb an incredible 33 positions in the race to claim a memorable debut victory. On the back of another maximum points haul in France, Binder now leads the world championship by 24 points.

“I think the biggest change is just the way I approach every weekend,” explained Binder in Le Mans. “I always used to just have a look at the leader board to see where I was, what my position was, and that was the end of it, you know?

“Now I realise that if you're fifth but you have good rhythm it doesn't matter. The race is a different story. That's all I've changed, really. I've been working so much harder during the weekend. Like I used to do a few hot laps and then I'd pull in. Now I push on every lap, alone and I get the job done.

“When you end up in these big groups, it's always a big fight. If you want to follow guys all weekend, how are you going to lead the race and win it? I think it's one of those things that needs to click because it's not easy. When it's so close, to get a tow you can go so much faster so much easier. I think it's just been continuously working and we're getting there.”

Now in his second year in the Red Bull Ajo KTM squad, Binder is reaping the rewards of remaining within a stable structure, with a settled crew. Yet, having ridden Honda and Mahindra machinery in the prior two seasons, it took time to adjust to a machine that required a different style of riding.

“The toughest part about last year was that when I first jumped on the 2014 KTM I felt it was incredible and I went really quick. Then they brought us the 2015 bike and basically I really struggled. I had so many problems with chatter and my riding style didn't help us at all. So what I had to do was try and change my riding style a lot, which is never easy.

“In Misano [in 2015] it was when everything turned around for me. The only thing that changed was they brought the new chassis. Since then I've been working on the new chassis. Now we've got such an incredible base setting, I don't think we need to play with it much at all. That's about it.

“In the off-season we did such a good job. We tried a lot of things but we carried on. We never lost our way. When we tried things we always did a back check because it's so easy to get lost when you're right up at the top. We found a few things that were good and a few others that weren't. We just put it all together, then the whole package together and so far it's working out good.”




Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on May 19, 2016, 01:21:39 pm
Sounds quite mature.

How's silly season looking in Moto3? Or does it start later in the season for them?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 19, 2016, 01:54:38 pm
Sounds quite mature.

How's silly season looking in Moto3? Or does it start later in the season for them?

It doesn't seem to have started. Maybe it did start, but the news hounds are so busy with the silly season of the big boys that they are missing this one.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 20, 2016, 11:54:38 am
Mugello, Italy.  Moto 3 updates.

FP1:

Brad:  29th  >:( >:( >:(  Weather related.
Darryn: 17th

FP2:

Brad:  4
Darryn: 31





Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Africamike on May 20, 2016, 02:36:12 pm
Cannot wait for Sunday!.......hat-trick anyone?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 20, 2016, 05:29:47 pm
One can only hope Brad's got enough people listening to him!   :lol8:

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on May 20, 2016, 05:58:07 pm
On the last lap he was 3/10's up on the best time till he caught traffic.

Bodes well!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 21, 2016, 02:20:03 pm
FP3

Brad 27   
Darryn 31   

QP

Brad 4
Darryn 24
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on May 22, 2016, 11:41:21 am
Outstanding race craft!

Biscuit!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: OomD on May 22, 2016, 11:41:49 am
Yeehaaaaa, Binder!!

I have not sat at the edge of my seat like this in a long time! Bucking Frilliant!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 12:13:10 pm
Brad goes all #BRADICAL on Mugello!  What a ride.

Best time to rake 25 points is on the day when your two biggest rivals rakes zero.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on May 22, 2016, 12:21:05 pm
What an exciting race, with a GREAT result!!! Go Brad :thumleft:

I can't get enough of hearing our anthem at the races!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 12:37:20 pm
What makes this one so epic?  Winning a race after you have been bumped three times, your two main rivals did not get any points and the first 15 bikes were just under 2 seconds from each other over the finish line.  Great stuff.  Check this photo finish for spots 3, 4 and 5.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on May 22, 2016, 01:05:00 pm
What a boytjie clever racing. I can't wait for him to get into motogp
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Africamike on May 22, 2016, 03:29:17 pm
Speechless.......what a fantastic ride......the stuff of champions
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Alan on May 22, 2016, 04:28:50 pm
Agreed with all of you, he is SUCH a more all-round rider this year.. He's not letting them push him around, he's holding his positions, taking the knocks, and pressing forward when he needs to. Maturity has set in.. We should hopefully see him in MotoGP in 2 years time, and I sincerely hope he gets a proper team offer, and not a sub-standard offer.

Go Brad. #41.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Jag man on May 22, 2016, 05:07:08 pm
A true champ ,what a rider.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2016, 05:12:28 pm
I remember watching Melandri, Biaggi, Rossi, all dicing it out in the same 125 class, and Brad brings back similar memories.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 06:28:36 pm
Agreed with all of you, he is SUCH a more all-round rider this year.. He's not letting them push him around, he's holding his positions, taking the knocks, and pressing forward when he needs to. Maturity has set in.. We should hopefully see him in MotoGP in 2 years time, and I sincerely hope he gets a proper team offer, and not a sub-standard offer.

Go Brad. #41.

I remember watching Melandri, Biaggi, Rossi, all dicing it out in the same 125 class, and Brad brings back similar memories.


Indeed!  Awesome and hard fought battles all round.



I am hoping for a slightly slower path to MotoGP.   At least 2017 and 2018 in Moto 2.  I am hoping he would be part of Ajo Racing's Moto 2 effort.  Johann Zarco, the reigning World Champion is in the Ajo Racing Team.  This is the same Ajo for who Binder is racing in Moto 3.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 22, 2016, 06:40:49 pm
It is my opinion that, should Brad win 2016, he should move on to 600's and then onto MGP speedily.

He has the package of talent, hunger and determination. Rossi also did not stay long in any class below MGP.

The point is to get into a top team each time.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on May 22, 2016, 08:06:01 pm
It is my opinion that, should Brad win 2016, he should move on to 600's and then onto MGP speedily.

He has the package of talent, hunger and determination. Rossi also did not stay long in any class below MGP.

The point is to get into a top team each time.

I believe 2 years in Moto 2 at least.  Do you think it should be less? 

Rossi spend 2 years in each lower class (125 and 250) before moving up.  He could have spend 1 years in 250 before moving, but chose to stay the 2nd year.   During this 2nd year he became the World Champion and could sort of demand a spot in a top team.

As you said, the critical factor is moving to a top team.  We see good riders like Alex Marquez (Moto 2), Tito Rabat, Jack Miller and others going nowhere fast because they are not in a top team when they move up.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: SteveD on May 22, 2016, 08:07:37 pm
Yo, that was fun. Some riding, that.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on May 23, 2016, 09:02:21 am
That was a real champions ride.

I cannot imagine the stress levels (do they have stress?) riding in a race like that. Literally being swamped at the end of the main straight on every lap. But he was clever enough to know that, so made sure he wasn't leading at the start of the last trip down the main straight.

Crazy is what he called it, crazy is what it was. And brilliant.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ktmmer on May 23, 2016, 09:28:25 am
Any clips we can watch , for the ones that missed the race ?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on May 23, 2016, 09:53:33 am
Any clips we can watch , for the ones that missed the race ?

Repeats today etc.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Avontier on May 23, 2016, 02:07:34 pm
Beliksem! What a race! Cheered him like a madman all race long!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Africamike on June 01, 2016, 05:45:01 pm
Catalunya...here we come, another swarm of Moto 3 on the horizon..... :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on June 02, 2016, 08:55:16 am
I hear Bradical will be in country sometime in the next week and will be doing some appearances.
Don't have any details yet, do you know something Bear?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 02, 2016, 05:21:46 pm
I hear Bradical will be in country sometime in the next week and will be doing some appearances.
Don't have any details yet, do you know something Bear?

I have heard they will be coming over for the winter break.  Don't know it is next week already.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 03, 2016, 02:09:23 pm
FP1:  Brad 6 / Darryn 31
FP2:  Brad 3 / Darryn 31
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Africamike on June 03, 2016, 05:25:49 pm
 :biggrin: :biggrin:  Cant wait for Sunday!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 10:12:06 am

FP1:  Brad 6 / Darryn 31
FP2:  Brad 3 / Darryn 31
FP3:  Brad 9 / Darryn 30
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 12:19:13 pm
Interview via Skype with Brad on The Bike Show was awesome!  Great news that he confirmed he is receiving lots of offers for next year, but that he will spend 2 years in Moto 2 before considering MotoGP.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on June 04, 2016, 01:16:14 pm
Pole!

He was just off the pace for all of practice, then pulls a stunner out in traffic too!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 01:47:23 pm
Pole!

He was just off the pace for all of practice, then pulls a stunner out in traffic too!

That kid is gonna have his arse tanned if I ever run into him!  He seemed to struggle all weekend long.  For the whole of QP he was running in 10th.  In FP3, at on epoint he was 23rd!!!  Klein k@khuis!  Clearly spending time on old tires or something and then does a flyer when required.  Cool for him.  What about my bloody blood pressure pills account?

When I saw he was struggling I was worried that the death of Luis Salom was working on him negatively.  Luis and Brad were team mates during Brad's rookie year in Moto 3 and have remained friends since.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 04, 2016, 01:48:35 pm
FP1:  Brad 6 / Darryn 31
FP2:  Brad 3 / Darryn 31
FP3:  Brad 9 / Darryn 30
OP:  Brad 1 / Darryn 30
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: OomD on June 05, 2016, 06:55:44 pm
Jislaaik and he almost made it 4! But well done, Brad,  to climb back after that incident and still claim 2nd is brilliant
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 06:56:32 pm
Well done.  A well deserved 2nd.

Almost a less deserved sliding down the road on his posterior thanks to another rider with way too much ambition.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: landieman on June 05, 2016, 07:25:17 pm
Brad has some serious talent,fantastic racing  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on June 05, 2016, 08:11:28 pm
BRAD...jou beliksem!!!...this boytjie surely has the talent and potential to make it (and do swell) into MOTOGP!!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 05, 2016, 09:51:27 pm
Let us not forget younger brother Darryn who came from 30th to finish 12th and earn his first World Championship points.

2017 season is a long way off, but an old fart can dream.  With quite a lot of the top Moto3 riders moving on the Moto 2, I hold thumbs for Darryn to get a seat in one of the top teams.  Darryn, the crazy, wild one, but as fast as the best there is, if given the opportunity.

Check out Brad and Darryn.

Brad:

(http://photos.motogp.com/2016/03/21/41-binder-brad_gp_8617.big.jpg)


Darryn:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/712731839031603204/lqjI3-cb.jpg)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on June 05, 2016, 10:33:14 pm
Hey! Simoncelli , is that you?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on June 06, 2016, 09:25:57 am
I was very proud of myself, at the age of 49 I had finally stopped biting my nails.

After those last two laps I will just have to start again.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Africamike on June 06, 2016, 10:15:31 am
Fantastic Moto 3 as usual - nearly wet myself with that overambitious Argentinian but a fantastic last lap by Brad - a win was definitely on the cards but how were those bike handling skills!!!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on June 06, 2016, 10:16:07 am
Backing a Moto3 bike into turn 4 two take two places? This kid is something else and the real deal for sure!!!

Very proud supporter here..  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Sithe on June 06, 2016, 11:16:58 am
Give him the championship and move him up to moto2. He is the real deal  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on June 06, 2016, 11:24:39 am
Just loving Brad's technical riding ability. He's not doing the balls to the wall all the time, but assessing all the technicalities to make it work for him.
Really got the potential of a MotoGP champion.  :sip:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 06, 2016, 11:39:34 am
Hey! Simoncelli , is that you?

:laughing7: So true!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 06, 2016, 12:49:56 pm
Hey! Simoncelli , is that you?

Just like TheSic, Darryn is always smiling, laughing, teasing and in general causing havoc wherever he goes.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on June 10, 2016, 04:14:23 pm
Interview with Bradicall from Crash.net

http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/230486/1/exclusive-brad-binder-qa.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/230486/1/exclusive-brad-binder-qa.html)

An exclusive interview with Moto3 championship leader Brad Binder, who spoke to Crash.net on Friday evening at Le Mans - the scene of his second consecutive victory – about his change in approach for 2016 and how he is aiming to enter Moto2 at the close of the year.

Crash.net:
You have yet to finish off the podium in 2016 and you're leading the world championship. What do you feel has changed?

Brad Binder:
I think the biggest change is just the way I approach every weekend. I always used to just have a look at the leader board to see where I was, what my position was, and that was the end of it, you know? Now I realise that if you're fifth but you have good rhythm it doesn't matter. The race is a different story. That's all I've changed, really. I've been working so much harder during the weekend. Like I used to do a few hot laps and then I'd pull in. Now I push on every lap alone and I get the job done.

Crash.net:
In the first half of last year we often saw Danny Kent lapping alone in practice and qualifying. This year we see you do the same. Is that vital in a sense to understand your own limits and ability, especially in Moto3?

Brad Binder:
That's the thing. When you end up in these big groups, it's always a big fight. If you want to follow guys all weekend, how are you going to lead the race and win it? I think it's one of those things that needs to click because it's not easy. When it's so close, to get a tow you can go so much faster so much easier. I think it's just been continuously working and we're getting there.

Crash.net:
As the Red Bull Ajo team has just two riders this year and your team-mate Bo Bendsneyder is a class rookie, do you feel as though you are benefiting from being the clear number one rider?

Brad Binder:
Things are definitely more relaxed in the box when there are only two of us and not three. Last year it was quite busy during the sessions. But I wouldn't say that. It was so nice having Miguel as a team-mate because when he was doing well we could always compare data and it was so easy to understand. This year I don't think I've looked at Bo's data once. All that we end up doing is comparing [our data] to data from a few years ago. The biggest problem is that conditions are never the same. If the wind blows a bit in Moto3 it can change the whole outlook.

Crash.net:
When you moved to the Red Bull Ajo KTM team at the beginning of 2015 it wasn't a completely smooth transition. What do you think was the reason for that?

Brad Binder:
The toughest part about last year was that when I first jumped on the 2014 KTM I felt it was incredible and I went really quick. Then they brought us the 2015 bike and basically I struggled. I had so many problems with chatter and my riding style didn't help us at all. So what I had to do was try and change my riding style a lot, which is never easy. In Misano it was when everything turned around for me. The only thing that changed was they brought the new chassis. Since then I've been working on the new chassis. Now we've got such an incredible base setting, I don't think we need to play with it much at all. That's about it.

In the off-season we did such a good job. We tried a lot of things but we carried on. We never lost our way. When we tried things we always did a back check because it's so easy to get lost when you're right up at the top. We found a few things that were good and a few others that weren't. We just put it all together, then the whole package together and so far it's working out good.

Crash.net:
Last year you had the very experienced Massimo Branchini as your crew chief, a man who worked with Casey Stoner in the past. Did you find that benefited your riding?

Brad Binder:
Yeah, last year it was Massimo. This year it's Jordi Gallardo. I mean, last year the amount I learnt from Massimo was incredible. He's had more world champions that anyone in this paddock, just about. It was so nice working with Massimo. I learnt more last year than I learnt throughout my whole career. He's got so much experience and I really appreciated everything he told me. It was so nice. You see last year I always shared a crew chief [Branchini worked with both Binder and Johann Zarco in 2015]. This year, now that there is only two of us, I've slipped into where Miguel was. I mean, I'm really enjoying it. Jordi and my data guy Andrés [Madrid] are incredible. It's very seldom that we make the wrong move.

Crash.net:
You also have the benefit of ex-rider Joan Olive working in the team, who spots out and around the track for you, How big a help is it having someone with his experience giving you guidance?

Brad Binder:
Definitely with Joan out on track it helps us a lot because it's always one thing to explain what you think but also if someone is out on track straight away they can tell you what you're doing differently. Then you can go through the data, explain what you think and they can say, 'OK. Well we see you doing this differently. That's not helping this but you should do this, this and this.' When Joan's out on track it's definitely a huge advantage to us. Often in testing I was like, 'Joan, can you go and watch here because I'm struggling.' He can come back and say, 'Yeah, you're doing this, this and this wrong.' So if you fix that then you're sorted.

Crash.net:
Away from the race track, are you living in South Africa at the moment?

Brad Binder:
I still live in South Africa but we have a house in Spain that I stay at when the GPs are a week apart. As soon as I have a bit more time I try to go home.

Crash.net:
Has there been a big reaction back home to your achievements this season?

Brad Binder:
South Africa has been incredible. The amount of support I have there is insane. I can only see what my friends send me but on Monday [after Jerez], as far as I hear, I've been on every radio station [and] every news channel. It was good. I think it's really good for MotoGP in South Africa. I think the following there is getting bigger and bigger every year.

Crash.net:
Your brother Darryn is a fellow competitor in the Moto3 class. Is it fair to say that you come from a bike-mad family?

Brad Binder:
Woah. When I was born I probably had a bike waiting for me! My dad's biggest passion is cars and bikes. That's what he does. Since I can remember we've had bikes everywhere. Bikes in the living room [and] wherever we can fit them!

Crash.net:
How did you make your way into the Moto3 class?

Brad Binder:
The last time I raced in South Africa I was 13. I started racing in England in the Aprilia Superteens. I did two or three races and then the following year I got into the Red Bull Rookies Cup. I just continued in the Rookies Cup. I was lucky enough to get myself a ride at the end of the year, or the end of my third year in the Rookies Cup. That's how I got into Moto3.

Crash.net:
What is the national scene like in South Africa at the moment?

Brad Binder:
South African nationals at the moment are picking up. It definitely had a huge slump but from what I've seen this year it's looking good. We have lots of youngsters in the Pata Cup. There are some guys in England, some racing in the World Superbike paddock. There are people all over the place and I can only think that this well help more South African riders get into MotoGP.

Crash.net:
You had a chance to test Zarco's Moto2 machine at Valencia last year. What were your impressions?

Brad Binder:
It wasn't really a test. I made a deal with my crew chief Massimo because he was his [Zarco's] crew chief as well. He said that if I got three podiums I could test Johann's bike… well test, more like I could take a spin on his bike! I don't know why, but for some reason I'm obsessed with Moto2. I'm so keen to ride there. I wanted to see what it was like. So thanks to Massimo and Aki for letting me do that. It was flippin' cool. I can't wait to get there.

Crash.net:
Is moving to Moto2 with Aki's team the next logical step?

Brad Binder:
Obviously I'm not too worried about 2017. I've got my manager who is going to sort that out. He's a bit of a legend so we'll be alright. Personally I'd love to [go to Moto2 with the Ajo team]. Obviously I have such a good relationship with the team and I love how everything works here. All the guys in Moto2 and Moto3, we're all friends. We get on so well together. I think it'd be so much easier if I could stay here. The only thing it would change would be the garage and the bike. I think it would make the step easier because you're already relaxed in your own environment. But, you know, I haven't got that option yet so we'll see. We'll have to speak to the boss!

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/230486/1/exclusive-brad-binder-qa.html#w45ddhySgkojqlLi.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/230486/1/exclusive-brad-binder-qa.html#w45ddhySgkojqlLi.99)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: evansv on June 11, 2016, 07:03:26 am
Thanks Bud :thumleft: That was good to read!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on June 13, 2016, 12:24:40 pm
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 14, 2016, 06:28:48 am
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 16, 2016, 08:42:15 am
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Rough Rider on June 16, 2016, 08:49:25 am
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 

He did take the bike for a "spin" his words.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Rough Rider on June 16, 2016, 08:50:48 am
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.

With a broken leg, you must be joking, he will be out for a minimum of 2 months if he is lucky.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on June 16, 2016, 08:51:18 am
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 

No crystal ball needed imho  :lol8:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on June 16, 2016, 04:42:37 pm
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.

With a broken leg, you must be joking, he will be out for a minimum of 2 months if he is lucky.
Not with the doctors these guys have access to. I reckon he'll pitch up on crutches next race
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 16, 2016, 05:03:49 pm
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.

With a broken leg, you must be joking, he will be out for a minimum of 2 months if he is lucky.
Not with the doctors these guys have access to. I reckon he'll pitch up on crutches next race

When Rossi broke his leg (the bone were exposed as it had pierced the flesh and skin )in 2010, his first race was 42 days after the crash, but he tested in just under 4 weeks.  Like I said, it is probably medically unlikely, but I will not be surprised.  As you said, medical care like we only hear about, fitness levels beyond anything we understand and a will to win that knocks the socks off.

 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Rough Rider on June 16, 2016, 05:57:55 pm
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.

With a broken leg, you must be joking, he will be out for a minimum of 2 months if he is lucky.
Not with the doctors these guys have access to. I reckon he'll pitch up on crutches next race

When Rossi broke his leg (the bone were exposed as it had pierced the flesh and skin )in 2010, his first race was 42 days after the crash, but he tested in just under 4 weeks.  Like I said, it is probably medically unlikely, but I will not be surprised.  As you said, medical care like we only hear about, fitness levels beyond anything we understand and a will to win that knocks the socks off.

 

Fair comment.
I know these professorial sportsmen use things like hydrobaric chambers etc etc to aid the healing process.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 16, 2016, 06:09:22 pm
Now one less threat to Brad's championship.  :thumleft:


Navarro breaks leg training in Valencia

Moto3™ World Championship contender Jorge Navarro has sustained a broken tibia and fibula while training.

Tags Moto3, 2016, Jorge Navarro, Estrella Galicia 0,0



The Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider was training to be in the best condition possible for the next round of the Moto3™ World Championship in Assen, out to add to his first victory achieved in Barcelona. On Saturday he was running at KSB Karting and was unable to save a fall, resulting in a fracture to the tibia and fibula of his left leg. Currently second in the championship, Navarro will undergo surgery on Monday under the guidance of Dr. Mir and Dr. Ginebreda at the Hospital Universitari Quirón Dexeus de Barcelona.



His return to action is yet unknown.


With two and a bit weeks (from when the injury occurred) to next race and the fact that these little sh*ts are about as soft as titanium, I would not be surprised if he rode.

With a broken leg, you must be joking, he will be out for a minimum of 2 months if he is lucky.
Not with the doctors these guys have access to. I reckon he'll pitch up on crutches next race

When Rossi broke his leg (the bone were exposed as it had pierced the flesh and skin )in 2010, his first race was 42 days after the crash, but he tested in just under 4 weeks.  Like I said, it is probably medically unlikely, but I will not be surprised.  As you said, medical care like we only hear about, fitness levels beyond anything we understand and a will to win that knocks the socks off.

 

Fair comment.
I know these professorial sportsmen use things like hydrobaric chambers to aid the healing process.

Alas, being an ardent Bradfan since when he raced 50cc bikes (anyone tells you he was faster around Kyalami on a RZ50 than I was on a DL1000 he is lying!) I hope the dude is out for a race or two.  Yeah ... I know .... extremely unsportsmanlike of me, but still ....   :ricky:

Brad needs a bit of luck.  During his 2nd year in Moto3 one of the commentators said about Brad:  "If it wasn't for bad luck, this kid would have no luck".
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: landieman on June 16, 2016, 06:27:47 pm
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 

No crystal ball needed imho  :lol8:
we can only hope  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 16, 2016, 07:54:51 pm
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 

No crystal ball needed imho  :lol8:
we can only hope  :thumleft:

My hope is he moves to a decent team.  I would hate to see him struggling at the back because he is in a 3rd string team, like his brother is currently. 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on June 16, 2016, 09:21:03 pm
Just let him stay put but get promoted  :3some:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 17, 2016, 03:14:45 pm
Just let him stay put but get promoted  :3some:

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 20, 2016, 03:13:32 pm
Just confirmed.  Johann Zarco, reigning Moto2 champion will ride a MotoGP Suzuki in 2017.  This leaves the Ajo Racing Moto2 bike without a rider and Aki Ajo, owener of the team will start looking to contract a new rider.  Question:  Will he look any further than Brad Binder who is already an "employee" of Ajo Racing and riding for   Ajo racing in Moto3?  In fact, Brad and Johann shares a Crew Chief and there are rumours that Brad took the Moto2 bike for a few laps during recent testing. 

Ugh!  Johann Zarco unconfirmed and Alex Rins confirmed for Suzuki as Ianone's partner.

Seems Johann Zarco will move to Yamaha Tech3.   
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 24, 2016, 09:51:10 am
Hi ho, hi ho, off to Assen they go!

FP1:

Brad: 7
Darryn: 27         
            
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on June 24, 2016, 11:21:52 am
I think the whole spectrum of the Assen races is going to be a humdinger this year.  :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 24, 2016, 01:57:48 pm
Assen usually makes for some seriously close and heated racing.  Humdinger is the word!   


FP2:

Brad:  14
Darryn: 19

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on June 24, 2016, 02:28:18 pm
Heard they had a bit of rain this morning. Could be affecting the lap times.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 24, 2016, 03:03:23 pm
Heard they had a bit of rain this morning. Could be affecting the lap times.

Possible.  Also, he takes a lot of time, for good reason, practising on worn tires.  Could be that he was on old rubber in FP2.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Sithe on June 24, 2016, 03:31:46 pm
Heard they had a bit of rain this morning. Could be affecting the lap times.

There is always gonna be rain there at some point during the weekend. He will need to sort out his wet weather riding
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on June 24, 2016, 03:54:08 pm
Heard they had a bit of rain this morning. Could be affecting the lap times.

There is always gonna be rain there at some point during the weekend. He will need to sort out his wet weather riding
I see rain predicted for Sat and Sun.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 25, 2016, 10:05:52 am
FP3:

Brad: 10
Darryn: 24
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on June 25, 2016, 10:22:42 am
FP3:

Brad: 10
Darryn: 24

Wait for OP - always seems to twist the ear then  :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 25, 2016, 07:29:31 pm
QP:

Brad:  5
Darryn: 20


WUP:

Brad: 6
Darryn:  28

Race:

Brad:  12
Darryn: 17

How Brad stayed on during the bike doing its utmost to high side, only Brad will know.  Well ridden boykie!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: I&horse on June 26, 2016, 12:55:30 pm
Between BiB and MM I don't know who had the best save
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on June 26, 2016, 01:01:44 pm
Between BiB and MM I don't know who had the best save

Janee!  I think their guardian angels are on some serious Valium this weekend.   :thumleft:

As we have come to expect, Moto3 was a super humdinger again.  These youngsters clearly have no fear.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on July 15, 2016, 10:17:41 am
Germany:

FP1:

Brad #2
Darryn # 19
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on July 15, 2016, 01:50:06 pm
Germany:

FP1:

Brad #5
Darryn Didn't participate.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 08, 2016, 11:44:45 am
It seems, so rumour have it, that we can expect an announcement that KTM will be confirming that they will compete in Moto2 from next year on.  The Honda powered KTM was developed by KTM in conjunction with WP Performance and Suspension Systems and becomes the first bike manufacturer who is willing to race using the engine, as per Moto2 rules, from another manufacturer.  

If the rumour mill is correct, the two factory team riders will be Thomas Luthi and Brad Binder.    
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Wolzak on August 08, 2016, 11:50:06 am
Hans Trunkenpolz is spinning in his Grave as fast as Moto 2 rules allow him to. :lamer:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 11, 2016, 02:54:59 pm
Happy birthday young Brad!  Hope this weekend presents you with a nice birthday trophy.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on August 11, 2016, 04:06:25 pm
Happy birthday young Brad!  Hope this weekend presents you with a nice birthday trophy.   :thumleft:
I'll second that.  :thumleft:

Happy Happy Brad.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2016, 12:07:22 pm
Austrian Moto3:

FP1:

Brad #1
Darryn #24

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on August 12, 2016, 12:14:23 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on August 12, 2016, 01:25:06 pm
2nd free pratice:

1
41
B. BINDER
1:37.307
2
33
E. BASTIANINI
+0.666
3
64
B. BENDSNEYDER
+0.751
4
11
L. LOI
+0.801
5
20
F. QUARTARARO
+0.951
6
19
G. RODRIGO
+1.009
7
65
P. OETTL
+1.055
8
5
R. FENATI
+1.068
9
58
J. GUEVARA
+1.219
10
76
H. ONO
+1.333
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on August 12, 2016, 01:27:36 pm
Looks like our Brad is on a roll.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on August 12, 2016, 01:28:13 pm
Looks like our Brad is on a roll.
20 minutes left in this free practice session
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2016, 02:21:30 pm
FP2:

Brad #1, Darryn #20.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on August 12, 2016, 03:02:00 pm
I wonder what Darryn would do if the bikes were swopped.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2016, 03:16:31 pm
I wonder what Darryn would do if the bikes were swopped.

Darryn is a very, very good rider.  He is currently riding a "third team" bike for a "third team".  If bikes were swopped, so would positions.  However, I reckon both would be a tad worse off.  I am not sure Brad can ride the wheels of a donkey the way Darryn can.  The major difference between Brad and Darryn is personality.  Brad:  Cold, calculating, strategic.  Sort of a Lorenzo / Rossi.  Darryn is super skilled, but more reckless and risk taking.  Sort of Simoncelli / Marquez.  


In a straight out race, on identical bikes, my money would go on Brad, but my skipping heartbeat goes with Darryn.  On average, I would say Brad is marginally faster.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: husky on August 13, 2016, 08:22:21 am
thanks Bear; best of luck to both Binders. Could use the good news as inspiration right now.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 13, 2016, 02:03:12 pm
Pleasure!   :thumleft:

FP3:  Brad #1, Darryn #24

Qualifying:  Brad #2, Darryn #17 (his best yet)

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: whitedelight on August 13, 2016, 07:53:06 pm
Well done to both. Would be nice to see what Darryn could do on a better bike.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on August 14, 2016, 07:14:08 am
I asked my friend Irina who is an international motorcycle sport photographer who said she was heading to the MotoGP (also comes out to cover the Roof) to say hi to Brad from the fans in SA … this her fb response:
(She is not too hard on the camera eye either  >:D)

 :biggrin:


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1361685483846198&set=a.418463964835026.114079.100000142783370&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1361685483846198&set=a.418463964835026.114079.100000142783370&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 14, 2016, 10:41:13 am
Warm-Up:  Brad 5, Darryn 28.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 14, 2016, 10:43:07 am
Well done to both. Would be nice to see what Darryn could do on a better bike.

Darryn is in the team where Brad spring boarded from to the KTM team.  Hoping real hard Dad Binder is busy with shrewd negotiations to get Darryn up to a better team.  He really is much better than his current results show. 



I asked my friend Irina who is an international motorcycle sport photographer who said she was heading to the MotoGP (also comes out to cover the Roof) to say hi to Brad from the fans in SA … this her fb response:
(She is not too hard on the camera eye either  >:D)

 :biggrin:


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1361685483846198&set=a.418463964835026.114079.100000142783370&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1361685483846198&set=a.418463964835026.114079.100000142783370&type=3&theater)

Alas!  I must be getting old.  All I see is Red Bull KTM Ajo #41.  Who is that person in the pic spoiling the view?   :ricky:

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on August 14, 2016, 10:49:48 am
No you got another problem  :3some: Have your testosterone checked. I am 58 next week and nothing wrong with my line of 'sight'   >:D
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 14, 2016, 11:41:16 am
No you got another problem  :3some: Have your testosterone checked. I am 58 next week and and nothing wrong with my line of 'sight'   >:D

Will immediately got get me a gallon of testosterone!   :laughing4:

WHOO!  What a fecking race!

Brad 2, Darryn 17.

How was that last lap?  Holy moly.  Had me screaming like a girl who just saw a snake!

Brad's two biggest challengers made no points today, so Brad now 67 points ahead in the championship.  Navarro crashed and Fenati didn't race as his own twam, VR46, suspended him for the day.  Rumour has it he slapped a team worker around.  No idea how true that is.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Frankrzzgp on August 14, 2016, 01:08:13 pm
Very good race! Had me on the edge of my seat all through! :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: JonW on August 14, 2016, 01:15:08 pm
Awesome Brad, looked like you were totally in control of the race, notwithstanding the flat spot coming out of the turns.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on August 15, 2016, 08:46:09 am
Loving it!

Would like to know more about the Fenati incident. I hear the suspension might be for the remainder of the year....
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 15, 2016, 09:14:10 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.


Nieto added that no decision had yet been taken about Fenati's future beyond this weekend, but speaking after Sunday's MotoGP race team owner Valentino Rossi warned:

"Yes, you know for us is a great shame. We are not happy because is like that you lose a battle. Also because Fenati is a rider with great talent and we want to try to bet on him for the future, also for Moto2 next year, but unfortunately we have to give up."

Round 11 of the world championship takes place at Brno next weekend. Judging by Rossi's comments it will be a surprise if Fenati is present.

Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232812/1/rossi-vr46-to-give-up-on-romano-fenati.html#7yd5EqplwOqDPk0l.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232812/1/rossi-vr46-to-give-up-on-romano-fenati.html#7yd5EqplwOqDPk0l.99)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: ButtSlider on August 15, 2016, 09:26:31 am
What a race. Pity about the bike issues for Brad, but he handled the issue like a pro.

Looks like he's got the title in the bag.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 15, 2016, 10:23:13 am
What a race. Pity about the bike issues for Brad, but he handled the issue like a pro.

Looks like he's got the title in the bag.


SILENCE!  Don't jinx it Meneer!  Danny Kent from last year all forgotten already? 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 15, 2016, 10:24:53 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.



Seems he also had two previous warnings.  To be truthful, he should be pushing Brad hard for the championship, but he is extremely erratic for a rider of his experience and skill.  Maybe a bit too much partying? 
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 15, 2016, 09:19:18 pm
Confirmed!

Quote from: Motorsport.com
Moto3 points leader Brad Binder will step up to the Moto2 class in 2017, as he continues his collaboration with KTM in the intermediate class.

The South African rider holds a commanding advantage of 67 points in the Moto3 standings following last weekend's Spielberg race, in which nearest rival Jorge Navarro crashed and Romano Fenati failed to start after being suspended by his own team.

Binder, 21, has long been tipped for a move up to Moto2 in 2017, with the vacancy left by MotoGP-bound Johann Zarco at the Ajo squad - which runs KTM's factory operation in Moto3 - the logical destination.

However, it has emerged in recent weeks that Binder is set to not ride the class standard Kalex bike, but instead an all-new bespoke KTM chassis with WP suspension as part of a two-year agreement with the Austrian marque.

Current Leopard rider Miguel Oliveira, Binder's Ajo KTM teammate in Moto3 last year, is also set to join the new-look squad.

"We have the contract, and everything is looking really good," said Binder on Sunday. "We’re just changing a bit of the wording, but the base is done.

"Hopefully this afternoon we sign the contract to go up to Moto2.

"So far everything sounds positive [about the bike], but it will be difficult because it’s a brand new bike and Kalex are so strong."

"I know I'm going to get a hiding!"

Binder admitted that riding an unproven bike is likely to make his debut Moto2 season a challenge, particularly given the struggles of past Moto3 champions - including Sandro Cortese, Alex Marquez and Danny Kent - to be competitive in the intermediate class.

He said: "I know it’s going to be hard, I know I’m going to go there and get a hiding! But it’s one of those things in a way that I look forward to, because I really enjoy it when things don’t go perfectly and you have to work as hard as you can.

"The combination of Aki [Ajo] and the guys I have now, we understand each other really now and it will be a fun project.

Asked whether having the security of a two-year deal will help in 2017, Binder added: "For sure. It can keep you more relaxed, because if things don’t happen the first year you have a whole another season to work things out.

"I’ve so much confidence in my team. Obviously I have to work a lot myself, but the people around can guide me and we can do a good job."







http://www.motorsport.com/moto2/news/binder-poised-for-moto2-graduation-with-ktm-807341/ (http://www.motorsport.com/moto2/news/binder-poised-for-moto2-graduation-with-ktm-807341/)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on August 16, 2016, 06:36:11 am
Great attitude from him and may well surprise us on this intermediate bike.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 16, 2016, 10:28:02 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.



Seems he also had two previous warnings.  To be truthful, he should be pushing Brad hard for the championship, but he is extremely erratic for a rider of his experience and skill.  Maybe a bit too much partying? 

It seems Fenati is out of the VR46 team permanently.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on August 16, 2016, 10:34:20 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.



Seems he also had two previous warnings.  To be truthful, he should be pushing Brad hard for the championship, but he is extremely erratic for a rider of his experience and skill.  Maybe a bit too much partying? 

It seems Fenati is out of the VR46 team permanently.

Would love to know the details of what he did....
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on August 16, 2016, 10:45:15 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.



Seems he also had two previous warnings.  To be truthful, he should be pushing Brad hard for the championship, but he is extremely erratic for a rider of his experience and skill.  Maybe a bit too much partying? 

It seems Fenati is out of the VR46 team permanently.

Talk about a Career Limiting Move...
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on August 16, 2016, 11:28:32 am
I saw something on Facebook (so it must be true  :biggrin:) along the lines of he had slapped someone.

But it looks like he has done something fairly serious.



Seems he also had two previous warnings.  To be truthful, he should be pushing Brad hard for the championship, but he is extremely erratic for a rider of his experience and skill.  Maybe a bit too much partying? 

It seems Fenati is out of the VR46 team permanently.

Would love to know the details of what he did....

So would I.  All sorts of rumour going around of course.  I doubt we will ever know the full story. 

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 18, 2016, 12:32:57 pm
Saw this on another Facebook page, and he is also now officially out of the VR46 team for good.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232857/1/moto3-fenati-officially-out-of-vr46-della-porta-in.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232857/1/moto3-fenati-officially-out-of-vr46-della-porta-in.html)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on August 18, 2016, 12:38:54 pm
Wow. Drama drama.
Fenati comes across as a real asshole...
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on August 19, 2016, 09:57:40 am
1.   Enea Bastianini   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   2m   8.515s   
2.   Jorge Martin   SPA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   2m   8.691s   
3.   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   2m   8.712s   
4.   Jakub Kornfeil   CZE   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   2m   8.950s   
5.   Jorge Navarro   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   2m   9.012s   
6.   Nicolo Bulega   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   2m   9.052s   
7.   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pull & Bear ASPAR Mahindra Team   (Mahindra)   2m   9.360s   
8.   Andrea Migno   ITA   SKY Racing Team VR46   (KTM)   2m   9.369s   
9.   Fabio Di Giannantonio   ITA   Gresini Racing Moto3   (Honda)   2m   9.435s   
10.   Niccolò Antonelli   ITA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   2m   9.617s   
11.   Philipp Oettl   GER   Schedl GP Racing   (KTM)   2m   9.830s   
12.   Gabriel Rodrigo   ARG   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   2m   9.859s   
13.   Khairul Idham Pawi   MAL   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   2m   9.953s   
14.   Aron Canet   SPA   Estrella Galicia 0,0   (Honda)   2m   9.968s   
15.   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   10.003s   
16.   Juanfran Guevara   SPA   RBA Racing Team   (KTM)   2m   10.136s   
17.   Livio Loi   BEL   RW Racing GP BV   (Honda)   2m   10.141s   
18.   Bo Bendsneyder   NED   Red Bull KTM Ajo   (KTM)   2m   10.189s   
19.   Karel Hanika   CZE   Freundenberg Racing Team   (KTM)   2m   10.266s   
20.   Albert Arenas   SPA   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   2m   10.577s   
21.   Joan Mir   SPA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   10.789s   
22.   John McPhee   GBR   Peugeot MC Saxoprint   (Peugeot)   2m   10.799s   
23.   Darryn Binder   RSA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   2m   10.851s   
24.   Andrea Locatelli   ITA   Leopard Racing   (KTM)   2m   10.864s   
25.   Marcos Ramirez   SPA   Platinum Bay Real Estate   (Mahindra)   2m   11.042s   
26.   Jules Danilo   FRA   Ongetta-Rivacold   (Honda)   2m   11.060s   
27.   Maria Herrera   SPA   MH6 Team   (KTM)   2m   11.176s   
28.   Tatsuki Suzuki   JPN   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   2m   11.215s   
29.   Stefano Valtulini   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   2m   11.440s   
30.   Hiroki Ono   JPN   Honda Team Asia   (Honda)   2m   11.759s   
31.   Adam Norrodin   MAL   Drive M7 SIC Racing Team   (Honda)   2m   11.904s   
32.   Fabio Spiranelli   ITA   CIP-Unicom Starker   (Mahindra)   2m   12.488s   
33.   Lorenzo Petrarca   ITA   3570 Team Italia   (Mahindra)   2m   12.515s   
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232876/1/moto3-brno-free-practice-1-results.html#pwTqgsFgUCpgLSXs.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/232876/1/moto3-brno-free-practice-1-results.html#pwTqgsFgUCpgLSXs.99)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 24, 2016, 12:36:58 pm
So whats up, is the general consensus that if we don't mention what happened to Brad on Sunday, it never happened  :biggrin: :peepwall:.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: JonW on August 24, 2016, 12:40:58 pm
It's still too painful to talk about
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Amsterdam on August 24, 2016, 12:51:50 pm
In my view he rode like a champion.  He wasn't wild and out of shape but he did get caught out.  You could suggest that he should have gone a bit slower but then he would have been in a big pack where you can get bumped easily.  And it was really nice to see that he had a good go at it.  Unfortunately, this one did not end up well.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on August 24, 2016, 01:56:38 pm
Rider error and bad luck. He must have kicked himself 1000 times. He should have backed-off a bit as he had a big lead and was not going to get caught in the pack. Lucky he has healthy points advantage and should still have it in the bag.  :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on August 24, 2016, 03:46:44 pm
Brad's bike for 2017, Moto2
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 24, 2016, 04:36:31 pm
Two years on that and then hopefully another promotion to the factory KTM MotoGP team  :thumleft:.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on August 30, 2016, 01:40:21 pm
From MCN.

As well as MotoGP, KTM will make their debut on the Moto2 grid in 2017 with a new bike built in collaboration with their in-house suspension partners WP, as they seek to address a crucial hole in their rider progression.

Previously unable to offer riders any career progression beyond the Moto3 class since the end of their 250GP team, the new project means the Austrian firm can now bring riders from feeder series Red Bull Rookies to the premiere class.

And the first rider in line to make the step up will be South African Brad Binder, who will join 2015 Moto3 runner-up Miguel Olivera on the bikes in 2017, after signing a deal to remain with the Ajo Motorsport team that currently run the Red Bull KTM Moto3 squad.

Speaking to MCN at the Austrian Grand Prix, KTM boss Stefan Pierer says that it only makes sense that the firm can offer whole-career progression to the talent they discover.

“We’ve experienced all the big stars like Marquez and Stoner starting on KTMs, so the next step is Moto2 for us. It came out of the confusion of the MotoGP project – when we were looking around for riders. We’ll try to bring up the best riders – and the door to MotoGP is open to the two riders we have signed.”
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Kamanya on August 30, 2016, 02:42:35 pm
What are the stats of a new manufacturer in recent history who has come into and class and won it in its rookie year? And same again in their second year?

I don't really like Brad going to KTM, he will effectually be a development rider.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on August 30, 2016, 02:59:16 pm
What are the stats of a new manufacturer in recent history who has come into and class and won it in its rookie year? And same again in their second year?

I don't really like Brad going to KTM, he will effectually be a development rider.
It's the same team that he currently rides for and that look after Zarco in Moto2 currently. Zarco has been testing bits for the new bike all season, just the engine stays the same limp wrist-ed Honda motor.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: landieman on September 03, 2016, 02:15:51 pm
A 2:335.836 for Brad,lets see hope it's a dry race tomorrow
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Post by: BiG DoM on September 03, 2016, 06:03:50 pm
Middle of second row  :thumleft:
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Post by: evansv on September 04, 2016, 06:22:10 am
That's ok, particularly if it's dry :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on September 04, 2016, 07:48:54 am
That's ok, particularly if it's dry :thumleft:

Which it may well not be on the Mud Island  >:D  But yes in Moto 3 is just fine.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: landieman on September 04, 2016, 01:28:14 pm
dry track,lets hope it stays that way
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Post by: landieman on September 04, 2016, 02:10:05 pm
well done Brad!!!!!
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Post by: Kamanya on September 04, 2016, 02:18:57 pm
How was the wildcard Manzi!

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Post by: BiG DoM on September 04, 2016, 03:55:15 pm
Masterclass in riding.  :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobC on September 04, 2016, 07:22:07 pm
Sure beats watching F1 any day! :thumleft:

Hearing the anthem was epic! :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 04, 2016, 08:21:59 pm
A race the 2stroke 125cc guys would have been proud of.

Binder rode really well.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: OomD on September 04, 2016, 08:23:58 pm
Wow what a race! Well done, Brad!
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Post by: I&horse on September 05, 2016, 08:25:03 am
Bo did a brilliant job as wing-man and truly deserved the podium!!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Groenie on September 05, 2016, 08:31:54 am
Than f@ck I was able to sort out my Kodi/Sportsdevil before Saturday. Watched all the practice and qualifying sessions and the races. BT Sport 2 does a great job covering the races!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Buff on September 06, 2016, 02:59:22 pm
I see Binder has signed a 2 year deal to ride for KTM in Moto2 next season. Not on the standard Kalex bike however but on an all new bespoke  KTM chassis with WP suspension. Looks like Miguel Oliveira will be joining him  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 06, 2016, 04:09:24 pm
I see Binder has signed a 2 year deal to ride for KTM in Moto2 next season. Not on the standard Kalex bike however but on an all new bespoke  KTM chassis with WP suspension. Looks like Miguel Oliveira will be joining him  :thumleft:

Yip, check p13 of this thread.

Keep up man!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Buff on September 06, 2016, 04:15:08 pm
 :imaposer: Facepalm moment
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on September 06, 2016, 04:30:51 pm
:imaposer: Facepalm moment
Brad's bike
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Buff on September 06, 2016, 08:08:51 pm
Sweet mother  :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: landieman on September 11, 2016, 11:39:29 am
Anthem time again for Brad!!brilliant overtaking on corner 13 on the last lap for the win
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Wolzak on September 11, 2016, 11:42:39 am
Anthem time again for Brad!!brilliant overtaking on corner 13 on the last lap for the win
He had a brilliant Race,well done.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Jag man on September 11, 2016, 12:37:50 pm
Next race he will be crowned.
WEll DONE we are proud of you.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on September 12, 2016, 07:34:16 am
Well done Braddie boy...you make us all proud and we hope that 2017 will be a good year in Moto2.  :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 12, 2016, 11:05:53 am
Well done Braddie boy...you make us all proud and we hope that 2017 will be a good year in Moto2.  :ricky:

Agreed, great ride!

But I suspect next year is going to be a whole different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Serfie on September 12, 2016, 12:28:14 pm
Why Bud? Do you think the KTM will be far from the top performing standard of the other competitive teams?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 12, 2016, 12:41:04 pm
Why Bud? Do you think the KTM will be far from the top performing standard of the other competitive teams?

For the rider, I believe the new riding style required will be a big adjustment. Also, he will be swimming in a pool with some serious talent and loads of experience, not that he isn't talented.
For the bike, it is still the same engine as the other teams, so no real advantage there. Although, he is going into a team with experience, I believe a new chassis always requires a lot of testing and setup to get it up to speed.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on September 12, 2016, 01:52:29 pm
Why Bud? Do you think the KTM will be far from the top performing standard of the other competitive teams?

For the rider, I believe the new riding style required will be a big adjustment. Also, he will be swimming in a pool with some serious talent and loads of experience, not that he isn't talented.
For the bike, it is still the same engine as the other teams, so no real advantage there. Although, he is going into a team with experience, I believe a new chassis always requires a lot of testing and setup to get it up to speed.

All valid points to be considered.... :deal:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Rough Rider on September 12, 2016, 03:40:04 pm
I hope that after Brad secures the title next week they move him straight to Moto2 for the remainder of the season to start developing the new bike.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 12, 2016, 04:37:41 pm
I hope that after Brad secures the title next week they move him straight to Moto2 for the remainder of the season to start developing the new bike.

I'm quite sure that will not happen.
KTM will still want to secure the Manufacturers championship, plus there will still be sponsor's contractual commitments. Everyone will want to cash in on the exposure they will get from being associated with the new champ.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Rough Rider on September 12, 2016, 04:43:26 pm
I hope that after Brad secures the title next week they move him straight to Moto2 for the remainder of the season to start developing the new bike.

I'm quite sure that will not happen.
KTM will still want to secure the Manufacturers championship, plus there will still be sponsor's contractual commitments. Everyone will want to cash in on the exposure they will get from being associated with the new champ.

Ah  8)  just put Darren on Brad's bike and the Binder's will keep winning  :biggrin:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on September 13, 2016, 06:56:28 am
Nice to finally see a piccie with Brad's mom and dad on it as well.  Hats of to these two people.  Since the boys started racing on 50cc bikes, it is what they dedicated their lives to.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on September 13, 2016, 06:59:01 am
I hope that after Brad secures the title next week they move him straight to Moto2 for the remainder of the season to start developing the new bike.

Unfortunately that cannot happen.  It's all to do with the team's contracts with Dorna.  The Moto3 team must fulfil their annual contract with Dorna, while the Moto 2 team is not yet approved for racing in 2016.  All very complex, rather silly as well in the opinion of many, but I am pretty sure Brad would want to see out the Moto 3 season anyway.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 13, 2016, 10:00:43 am
I would like to believe that because he is moving to Moto2 with the same team, they have the know how, experience and people to give him a bike that is at least competitive. I doubt their aim is to spend too much time floundering around in mid pack.

Anyway, as long as it all forms part of the path to MotoGP for the young man.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on September 13, 2016, 12:18:11 pm
Finally!  Official confirmation from both KTM and AJO Racing!

http://ajo.fi/2016/09/red-bull-ktm-ajo-to-make-exciting-move-up-to-moto2-in-2017/ (http://ajo.fi/2016/09/red-bull-ktm-ajo-to-make-exciting-move-up-to-moto2-in-2017/)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on September 13, 2016, 04:08:31 pm
Finally!  Official confirmation from both KTM and AJO Racing!

http://ajo.fi/2016/09/red-bull-ktm-ajo-to-make-exciting-move-up-to-moto2-in-2017/ (http://ajo.fi/2016/09/red-bull-ktm-ajo-to-make-exciting-move-up-to-moto2-in-2017/)
Interesting comment:

 Unconfirmed rumours suggest that the South African's Moto2 deal includes the possibility of stepping up to the KTM MotoGP team in 2019.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/233578/1/ktm-confirms-moto2-with-binder-oliveira.html#dX7uS6h42Dqlyg6C.99 (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/233578/1/ktm-confirms-moto2-with-binder-oliveira.html#dX7uS6h42Dqlyg6C.99)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: husky on September 14, 2016, 12:41:33 pm
Just let's not jinx him, please.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on September 14, 2016, 03:48:03 pm
Niccolo Antonelli is replacing Brad at RedBull Ajo Racing Moto 3.  Well done Nicco!  Hope you stand the Binderboots nice and full!

Just let's not jinx him, please.

+1! 

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 16, 2016, 10:35:11 am
And now I can watch the Moto3 in style.

Official Brad Binder Merch now available.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 16, 2016, 11:01:08 am
Did you get the shirt through Ridefast?
Because the stuff they have seems expensive to me.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 16, 2016, 11:07:42 am
Yip, Ridefast.

I paid R375 including courier to Cape Town.

Not sure that is so out of touch, we paid R400 for a Ripcurl T shirt the other days for someones birthday, and at the SA Bike Festival I was quite excited to get some MotoGP Merch but I really could part with the kind of money they were asking for a 46 T shirt for example.

This is also a good quality T Shirt.

Anyway, my wife paid  :peepwall:



Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 19, 2016, 09:08:11 am
That is not bad for a shirt, they charge R400 for a cap though...
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Post by: RobD on September 19, 2016, 09:27:46 am
That is not bad for a shirt, they charge R400 for a cap though...

That is insane, I just got a Simoncelli cap from the San Marino GP and that was R390. Quality is next level compared to what is available here....
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 19, 2016, 12:18:48 pm
Just chatted to Ridefast, their standard shirts are R300 excl courier outside of GP.
They will also be releasing champion shirts once he takes the win at R400.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on September 19, 2016, 12:52:26 pm
Just chatted to Ridefast, their standard shirts are R300 excl courier outside of GP.
They will also be releasing champion shirts once he takes the win at R400.
R400 ..... sal ee vat
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Geel Kat on September 19, 2016, 12:54:49 pm
Just chatted to Ridefast, their standard shirts are R300 excl courier outside of GP.
They will also be releasing champion shirts once he takes the win at R400.
R400 ..... sal ee vat

Jou magnaat!!!

Vaste vyf se ek jou.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: cocky on September 19, 2016, 01:12:42 pm
Just chatted to Ridefast, their standard shirts are R300 excl courier outside of GP.
They will also be releasing champion shirts once he takes the win at R400.
R400 ..... sal ee vat

Jou magnaat!!!

Vaste vyf se ek jou.
WAT :o ??? Norrafok, dit sal ek koop met my bier geld vir die maand, sal maar by die werk drink, dis darem verniet
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Post by: Brink on September 25, 2016, 11:40:17 am
Boytjie😎

Ride to live. . . .
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Colin Kaapschehoop on September 25, 2016, 11:41:03 am
World Champ!!!!
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Post by: Jag man on September 25, 2016, 11:42:12 am
The man the racer the champ
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Post by: Kamanya on September 25, 2016, 11:46:55 am
Very well deserved!
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Post by: evansv on September 25, 2016, 12:10:44 pm
Brad you biscuit!!! Well done & totally deserved!!!!

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Post by: SteveD on September 25, 2016, 01:59:46 pm
 :wav: :wav: :wav:
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Post by: RobC on September 25, 2016, 02:56:35 pm
Awesome! Just awesome! :thumleft:
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Post by: RobD on September 25, 2016, 06:11:28 pm
 :wav: :wav:
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Post by: OomD on September 25, 2016, 08:21:42 pm
Bucking frilliant race! Well done, BiB, well deserved too!
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Post by: Crispie on September 25, 2016, 10:38:30 pm
Trots op jou Brad
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Post by: Serfie on September 26, 2016, 04:46:47 am
Hey Braddie boy...you made a lot of okes very very proud of you today....   :3some:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: KiLRoy on September 26, 2016, 06:12:54 am
Very proud indeed - what a gutsy ride :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on September 26, 2016, 08:43:26 am
Awesome!
What a spectacle!  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Dogmatix on September 26, 2016, 08:44:58 am
Congratulations Brad! What an incredible feat!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 26, 2016, 09:19:51 am
Well the BB shirt I recently bought has the words "Refuse to Lose" on the front.

I think many much more seasoned riders going for the championship would have settled for position yesterday. Get a fourth today, couple of points next round and its done.

But it is just not in this guy to come second, if he can come first. Even my wife was hiding under the blanket asking me questions like "Why is he doing that" when he got back into the front pack again with a couple of laps to go and had a slight bump with another rider.

Wow, just wow and a really awesome achievement.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Cracker on September 26, 2016, 11:20:34 am
Well the BB shirt I recently bought has the words "Refuse to Lose" on the front.

I think many much more seasoned riders going for the championship would have settled for position yesterday. Get a fourth today, couple of points next round and its done.

But it is just not in this guy to come second, if he can come first. Even my wife was hiding under the blanket asking me questions like "Why is he doing that" when he got back into the front pack again with a couple of laps to go and had a slight bump with another rider.

Wow, just wow and a really awesome achievement.


Quite a coincidence, that.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Warren Ellwood on September 28, 2016, 09:42:46 am
I saw a post on Twitter about Zarco testing the new Moto2 KTM at Aregon on Monday and it said he lapped 0.02 off the fastest weekend lap set by Lowes.

Good start if its true.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Amsterdam on September 28, 2016, 10:33:06 am
From the RideFast FaceBook page -

Yesterday at Aragon was an official IRTA test, and Johan Zarco tested the new KTM Moto2 bike for the first time and exclusive inside intel we have told us that he finished only 0.2seconds off Lowes fastest time. Looks like the bike is going to be competitve - can't wait to see Brad in action on it!
https://www.facebook.com/Ridefastmagazine/?hc_ref=SEARCH (https://www.facebook.com/Ridefastmagazine/?hc_ref=SEARCH)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: JonW on November 13, 2016, 01:02:45 pm
Brad Binder, what a joy to watch.

Going to miss watching you in Moto 3 next year, but hopefully you will make your country just as proud in Moto 2

Well done Brad
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Post by: OomD on November 13, 2016, 02:09:49 pm
Bliksem, what a ride today! Well done, BiB!
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Post by: I&horse on November 14, 2016, 12:55:34 pm
That's how you move on... with a win!! Looking forward to Moto2
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobC on November 14, 2016, 02:31:59 pm
Massive points difference between him and #2, he outclassed them all, now give his ride to his brother KTM! Winning is in their genes. :deal:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 14, 2016, 02:39:57 pm
Massive points difference between him and #2, he outclassed them all, now give his ride to his brother KTM! Winning is in their genes. :deal:

Brad's spot in the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team is going to Nicollo Antonelli.

Darryn is staying with his current team, Platinum Bay Real Estate, but they have dumped the Mahindra and will use KTM next year.  They will still be a 3rd team, but at least a KTM 3rd team.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobC on November 14, 2016, 03:15:53 pm
Massive points difference between him and #2, he outclassed them all, now give his ride to his brother KTM! Winning is in their genes. :deal:

Brad's spot in the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team is going to Nicollo Antonelli.

Darryn is staying with his current team, Platinum Bay Real Estate, but they have dumped the Mahindra and will use KTM next year.  They will still be a 3rd team, but at least a KTM 3rd team.
Glad to hear that. :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 15, 2016, 10:46:21 am
Massive points difference between him and #2, he outclassed them all, now give his ride to his brother KTM! Winning is in their genes. :deal:

Brad's spot in the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team is going to Nicollo Antonelli.

Darryn is staying with his current team, Platinum Bay Real Estate, but they have dumped the Mahindra and will use KTM next year.  They will still be a 3rd team, but at least a KTM 3rd team.
Glad to hear that. :thumleft:

Lets hold thumbs that the team get a sizable added sponsorship to enable Darryn to kreep into the top 10 in the championship, which is where he will be noticed by the bigger, pro, factory teams.  Brad had to finish 11th and 6th before he was really noticed.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Groenie on November 15, 2016, 10:55:33 am
Massive points difference between him and #2, he outclassed them all, now give his ride to his brother KTM! Winning is in their genes. :deal:

Brad's spot in the Red Bull KTM Ajo Racing Team is going to Nicollo Antonelli.

Darryn is staying with his current team, Platinum Bay Real Estate, but they have dumped the Mahindra and will use KTM next year.  They will still be a 3rd team, but at least a KTM 3rd team.
Glad to hear that. :thumleft:

Lets hold thumbs that the team get a sizable added sponsorship to enable Darryn to kreep into the top 10 in the championship, which is where he will be noticed by the bigger, pro, factory teams.  Brad had to finish 11th and 6th before he was really noticed.

Darryn got 12th, 10th and 4th in the last 3 races
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on November 15, 2016, 11:09:00 am
Give him a better ride and I think he will surprise us. By all accounts he is also a superb racer.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 15, 2016, 12:21:08 pm
Give him a better ride and I think he will surprise us. By all accounts he is also a superb racer.

He is an excellent racer and the championship would be within his grasp on the right bike and with the right team.  His current team is a good one and delivered quite a few big names, Brad Binder being one.  The past two years they lost their big sponsor, Ambrogio, and are struggling a tad.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 18, 2016, 02:19:47 pm
Brad took the new Moto2 KTM out on Jerez this past week.  He did about 100 laps on Wednesday and 80 on Thursday.  He rode without a transponder so times are not available.  According to mom Sharon, he lapped in what would be about 12th fastest.  His team mate who does have a year Moto2 experience lapped in 8th place.   It seems the KTM chassis with WP suspension and Honda engine may well be reasonably competitive.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Groenie on November 18, 2016, 02:42:47 pm
Oliveira was over 2 seconds slower than the fastest time by Nakagami.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 19, 2016, 10:50:53 am
Oliveira was over 2 seconds slower than the fastest time by Nakagami.

Day 1 I think he was 1.8 seconds down, but I am not sure at what time during the day that was.  He may well have ended over 2 seconds down on Day 1.

I saw somewhere that is down to 1 second on Day 2.  Will see if I can find it again to ensure I remember it correctly.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 21, 2016, 07:30:48 pm
Brad crashed during Moto2 testing today.  He is on his way to a hospital in Barcelona.  It is suspected that he broke an arm.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on November 21, 2016, 07:32:29 pm
Brad crashed during Moto2 testing today.  He is on his way to a hospital in Barcelona.  It is suspected that he broke an arm.

 :-\  Hope he is OK and heals quickly.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Dirty Fun on November 21, 2016, 08:00:19 pm
 
Brad crashed during Moto2 testing today.  He is on his way to a hospital in Barcelona.  It is suspected that he broke an arm.

Hope it's not to serious :(
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 22, 2016, 06:49:52 am
Apparently radius broken, whatever that is.  Currently in hospital and will be operated on today.  It doesn't sound serious and thankfully, there is more than enough time to heal, although he will probably miss the final private practice before the winter practice ban starts on 1 December.

During yesterdays testing he was 1.6 seconds off Nakagami's fastest time.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BlueBull2007 on November 22, 2016, 07:25:56 am
Thank goodness! Hope he heals up super quick.
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Post by: Ganjora on November 22, 2016, 07:50:01 am
Apparently radius broken, whatever that is. 

forearm
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on November 22, 2016, 09:06:28 am
Broken wrist as well.

In my opinion some crashes are to be expected while trying to find the limits on a new bike.

As far as injuries go, this is probably the best time, if there is such a thing.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Dirty Fun on November 22, 2016, 09:36:40 am
That is good news :thumleft:

The accident sucks, but could properly not have happend at a better time...

Heal fast Brad :thumleft:

Learning the new bike will come at a price, now please don't let it happen again  :eek7:

Man it's good having a SA rider on the world racing track :ricky:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on November 22, 2016, 09:44:59 am


Man it's good having a SA riders on the world racing track :ricky:

Corrected!
Agreed!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Dirty Fun on November 22, 2016, 09:48:44 am


Man it's good having a SA riders on the world racing track :ricky:

Corrected!
Agreed!  :thumleft:

Damn right!!
Thanks bud500:thumleft:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: BiG DoM on November 22, 2016, 10:11:04 am
Wrist can be a real bugger - ask me I know  :o   Depends a lot on how it is fractured and can be a full year before feels 'normal' again and may never get full pronation back. But am sure he will have the best surgeons and physio.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 22, 2016, 10:16:13 am
That is good news :thumleft:

The accident sucks, but could properly not have happend at a better time...

Heal fast Brad :thumleft:

Learning the new bike will come at a price, now please don't let it happen again  :eek7:

Man it's good having a few SA rider on the world racing track :ricky:

Corrected.

There are auite a few with variying success:  One which we seem to have forgotten is Steven Odendaal who won the 2016 Moto 2 European Championship.

Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 22, 2016, 09:02:58 pm
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: bud500 on November 23, 2016, 08:13:34 am
Ja, only a dislocated wrist.... ::)
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on November 23, 2016, 09:12:38 am
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 23, 2016, 09:54:54 am
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on November 23, 2016, 10:03:42 am
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Ganjora on November 23, 2016, 11:10:29 am
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?

i am happy to give the 2 of you a lift to the airport to fetch him.
i have a subaru forester,  so the journey will be quick,  with lots of space for suitcases.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: punisher on November 23, 2016, 12:09:28 pm
i live right next to the airport ,  ................................  and who needs a forester  :sip:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 23, 2016, 12:40:31 pm
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?

Gauteng.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on November 23, 2016, 10:46:26 pm
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?

Gauteng.


If you are really keen and able I will put you on the list as my guest?
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on November 23, 2016, 10:50:11 pm
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?

i am happy to give the 2 of you a lift to the airport to fetch him.
i have a subaru forester,  so the journey will be quick,  with lots of space for suitcases.

Hey Ganjora... We are not collecting him unfortunately but your offer is much appreciated, thank you!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 24, 2016, 11:23:49 am
Seems only the radius was broken.  This was successfully operated on this morning.  Brad is doing well.  He will arrive in SA on 29 November.

Yeah, going to a dinner with him that evening so will see how he is healing up...

Lucky bugger!

Indeed...... :ricky:

Where are you based?

Gauteng.


If you are really keen and able I will put you on the list as my guest?

Keen I am!  Able is a problem.  Will be flying back from the Cape for work on, or around 29th.  Let me check and see what the boss is planning today and I will revert.  Thanks a million for the offer.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: Ganjora on November 24, 2016, 12:04:13 pm
Hey Ganjora... We are not collecting him unfortunately but your offer is much appreciated, thank you!

dammit.
the bear is a legend,  was hoping to meet him...
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 24, 2016, 02:18:32 pm
Hey Ganjora... We are not collecting him unfortunately but your offer is much appreciated, thank you!

dammit.
the bear is a legend,  was hoping to meet him...

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on November 30, 2016, 01:19:59 pm
@RobD:

Thank you again Rob!  Your kind gesture is appreciated.  I had a great time overall, but especially enjoyed the few minutes with Brad before the main event started. 

Sorry I left without saying goodbye, but I couldn't find you in the crowd.
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: RobD on November 30, 2016, 03:00:16 pm
@RobD:

Thank you again Rob!  Your kind gesture is appreciated.  I had a great time overall, but especially enjoyed the few minutes with Brad before the main event started. 

Sorry I left without saying goodbye, but I couldn't find you in the crowd.

Hi Andre,

My pleasure mate, glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah, he is such a humble kid for such a legend!
Title: Re: BRAD BINDER: 2016 Moto3 - It is time #41 Bradical!
Post by: TheBear on December 01, 2016, 07:42:36 pm
He is a great young man.  I met him once at Red Star Raceway a few years ago and he remembered.  I snuck around a corner looking for a place to take a smoke break and walked in where he was signing Ride Fast magazines.  This was awesome as we could have a quick chat outside of the noisy crowds.  He signed some shirts for me as well.

I have worked with his Dad and Darryn a lot when I was a scrutineer for NRR.  Darryn raced 125GP, later Moto3 and 250 Cup, so we had contact at every race.  It was always an absolute pleasure dealing with them.  Truly an awesome family.