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Title: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 03:20:45 pm
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Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: weskus on May 30, 2016, 03:26:18 pm
Sal self hierdie wil sien :deal: :peepwall:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 03:27:17 pm
KTM behoort te wen. Maar ai dan is hy weer heeltyd by die handelaar
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Buff on May 30, 2016, 03:29:35 pm
WTF... jy leer ook nie  :imaposer:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Regis Laconi on May 30, 2016, 03:35:44 pm
As dit my geld was sou ek die AT gekoop het.  Ek glo die bike sal hom nog bewys as betroubaar, soos al Honda se bikes.  Maar bliksem daai 1190 loop darm lekker...
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: volroom on May 30, 2016, 03:36:30 pm
try iets wat jy nog nie gehad voorheen nie. a change is as good as a holiday
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: bud500 on May 30, 2016, 03:41:20 pm
Poll added.

I vote for the 1190.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 03:42:28 pm
try iets wat jy nog nie gehad voorheen nie. a change is as good as a holiday

Jy's reg. Maar n Honda????? Ok as hy tubeless was dalk.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: katana on May 30, 2016, 03:42:50 pm
I voted AT.  A breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Pom17 on May 30, 2016, 03:56:39 pm
1190R

Honda does nothing great but does nothing wrong either. It does everything just average with great reliability. Which is awesome for buying a car for retirement, not so much for buying a bike.

Jy sal verveeld wees met die ding binne n maand of 2
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ktmmer on May 30, 2016, 04:00:34 pm
Hoekom soek jy n padfiets ? Koop n 950 SE en jy kry kleingeld.

 
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Sputnik080 on May 30, 2016, 04:01:28 pm
Ek reken dis 'n tough call, maar kyk bietjie na die feite.

Die AT is heel waarskynlik beter off-road as die 1190.
Die 1190 is sekerlik vinniger/sterker.
Die AT is nuut, die 1190 sal bitter mooi opgepas moet wees met min kilos.

Ek persoonlik dink die beter besluit is die AT, nuwe fiets, en dis 'n Honda, ie reliability, en ek is 'n KTM fan, wag nog net vir my skip om in te kom.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Grrard on May 30, 2016, 04:02:08 pm
Ek kannie verdrae dat jy so in wroeging is nie. Gee die geld vir my dat ek vir my 'n AT kan koop  :lol8:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:04:37 pm
Miskien moet ek maar net die 1200 ry sonder al die elektroniese kark. Maar hy is sooo breed
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Geel Kat on May 30, 2016, 04:05:20 pm
Wil jy 'n bike het wat meestal by jou is en werk of een wat meestal by die handelaar is?
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ktmmer on May 30, 2016, 04:07:05 pm
Miskien moet ek maar net die 1200 ry sonder al die elektroniese kark. Maar hy is sooo breed

Vir R 20 sit twee vlaggies op die pots of crashbars soos die groot trokke.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:07:26 pm
Ek reken dis 'n tough call, maar kyk bietjie na die feite.

Die AT is heel waarskynlik beter off-road as die 1190.
Die 1190 is sekerlik vinniger/sterker.
Die AT is nuut, die 1190 sal bitter mooi opgepas moet wees met min kilos.

Ek persoonlik dink die beter besluit is die AT, nuwe fiets, en dis 'n Honda, ie reliability, en ek is 'n KTM fan, wag nog net vir my skip om in te kom.


Ek dink min bikes sal beter wees as die "R".
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Sputnik080 on May 30, 2016, 04:12:44 pm
Ek reken dis 'n tough call, maar kyk bietjie na die feite.

Die AT is heel waarskynlik beter off-road as die 1190.
Die 1190 is sekerlik vinniger/sterker.
Die AT is nuut, die 1190 sal bitter mooi opgepas moet wees met min kilos.

Ek persoonlik dink die beter besluit is die AT, nuwe fiets, en dis 'n Honda, ie reliability, en ek is 'n KTM fan, wag nog net vir my skip om in te kom.


Ek dink min bikes sal beter wees as die "R".

Ek stem saam daar, ek kyk maar net na die reviews en opinies wat ek nou-al raak gelees het tot nou toe.
Ek reken grootte/gewig gewys is die 2 seker nie te vr uit mekaar uit nie.

Met dit ges, ek kry eintlik die gevoel dat jy klaar besluit het op die R, jy wil dalk net h dat ander dit vir jou moet bevestig......... :deal:
omdat jy 'n nuwe bike kan koop vir dieselfde geld?  ::)
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Malibu on May 30, 2016, 04:14:37 pm
The one that tightens little things and has big things missing a beat when riding it... :thumleft:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:20:30 pm
Ek reken dis 'n tough call, maar kyk bietjie na die feite.

Die AT is heel waarskynlik beter off-road as die 1190.
Die 1190 is sekerlik vinniger/sterker.
Die AT is nuut, die 1190 sal bitter mooi opgepas moet wees met min kilos.

Ek persoonlik dink die beter besluit is die AT, nuwe fiets, en dis 'n Honda, ie reliability, en ek is 'n KTM fan, wag nog net vir my skip om in te kom.


Ek dink min bikes sal beter wees as die "R".

Ek stem saam daar, ek kyk maar net na die reviews en opinies wat ek nou-al raak gelees het tot nou toe.
Ek reken grootte/gewig gewys is die 2 seker nie te vr uit mekaar uit nie.

Met dit ges, ek kry eintlik die gevoel dat jy klaar besluit het op die R, jy wil dalk net h dat ander dit vir jou moet bevestig......... :deal:
omdat jy 'n nuwe bike kan koop vir dieselfde geld?  ::)

Nee nog glad nie mind opgemaak nie. Fork miskien is die 950SE die ding!!!!!
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Omninorm on May 30, 2016, 04:21:06 pm
Africa Twin. n Witte.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Sputnik080 on May 30, 2016, 04:28:32 pm
Ek reken dis 'n tough call, maar kyk bietjie na die feite.

Die AT is heel waarskynlik beter off-road as die 1190.
Die 1190 is sekerlik vinniger/sterker.
Die AT is nuut, die 1190 sal bitter mooi opgepas moet wees met min kilos.

Ek persoonlik dink die beter besluit is die AT, nuwe fiets, en dis 'n Honda, ie reliability, en ek is 'n KTM fan, wag nog net vir my skip om in te kom.


Ek dink min bikes sal beter wees as die "R".

Ek stem saam daar, ek kyk maar net na die reviews en opinies wat ek nou-al raak gelees het tot nou toe.
Ek reken grootte/gewig gewys is die 2 seker nie te vr uit mekaar uit nie.

Met dit ges, ek kry eintlik die gevoel dat jy klaar besluit het op die R, jy wil dalk net h dat ander dit vir jou moet bevestig......... :deal:
omdat jy 'n nuwe bike kan koop vir dieselfde geld?  ::)

Nee nog glad nie mind opgemaak nie. Fork miskien is die 950SE die ding!!!!!

Dis ook nie 'n slegte opsie nie................ :pot:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:31:09 pm
Kry mens nog goeie SE's
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: volroom on May 30, 2016, 04:35:18 pm
try iets wat jy nog nie gehad voorheen nie. a change is as good as a holiday

Jy's reg. Maar n Honda????? Ok as hy tubeless was dalk.

doen tubeliss conversion, and mechanically sal jy seker minder issues he - dis n bonus
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Losper on May 30, 2016, 04:35:35 pm
Ets, my bliksem, luister nou 'n bietjie vir my.
'n 950SE is nie vir jou nie, jou gat is te dik en jou bene te kort.

Verkoop nou maar die BM en kry die 1190R, dit is tog wat jy wil h.
Ktm bloem het 'n splinter nuwe een op die vloer vir R181 000 na afslag. :thumleft:
Gou spring.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Rickus on May 30, 2016, 04:37:27 pm
Ets, my bliksem, luister nou 'n bietjie vir my.
'n 950SE is nie vir jou nie, jou gat is te dik en jou bene te kort.

Verkoop nou maar die BM en kry die 1190R, dit is tog wat jy wil h.
Ktm bloem het 'n splinter nuwe een op die vloer vir R181 000 na afslag. :thumleft:
Gou spring.

Voice of reason!!!
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:41:19 pm
Ets, my bliksem, luister nou 'n bietjie vir my.
'n 950SE is nie vir jou nie, jou gat is te dik en jou bene te kort.

Verkoop nou maar die BM en kry die 1190R, dit is tog wat jy wil h.
Ktm bloem het 'n splinter nuwe een op die vloer vir R181 000 na afslag. :thumleft:
Gou spring.

Lag my gat af. Jy ken my te goed. :laughing4: :thumleft: :laughing4: :thumleft: :laughing4: :thumleft: :laughing4: Neeee ek moet die BM hou
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 04:42:56 pm
Ets, my bliksem, luister nou 'n bietjie vir my.
'n 950SE is nie vir jou nie, jou gat is te dik en jou bene te kort.

Verkoop nou maar die BM en kry die 1190R, dit is tog wat jy wil h.
Ktm bloem het 'n splinter nuwe een op die vloer vir R181 000 na afslag. :thumleft:
Gou spring.

Voice of reason!!!

Hei jy maak my naam gat. Gaan ry op die pan, man
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Oros on May 30, 2016, 04:54:23 pm
Depends what type of riding you do, I have had a 950S, 950 Super Enduro & a 990R. Very lekker bikes but high maintenance & not comfortable on the long road.
Presently ride a BMW GS 1200 & it suits my needs  perfectly......... for now.
Just did a 3000k round trip with my wife to East London, Wild Coast & Hogsback & don't think I could have done it on anything better. (Lekker long distance tar cruiser & more than good enough on the dirt)
As a one bike garage, I don't think you will find better.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 30, 2016, 05:01:01 pm
Depends what type of riding you do, I have had a 950S, 950 Super Enduro & a 990R. Very lekker bikes but high maintenance & not comfortable on the long road.
Presently ride a BMW GS 1200 & it suits my needs  perfectly......... for now.
Just did a 3000k round trip with my wife to East London, Wild Coast & Hogsback & don't think I could have done it on anything better. (Lekker long distance tar cruiser & more than good enough on the dirt)
As a one bike garage, I don't think you will find better.


 :thumleft: :thumleft: This is to be an extra bike :peepwall:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Losper on May 30, 2016, 05:02:51 pm
Depends what type of riding you do, I have had a 950S, 950 Super Enduro & a 990R. Very lekker bikes but high maintenance & not comfortable on the long road.
Presently ride a BMW GS 1200 & it suits my needs  perfectly......... for now.
Just did a 3000k round trip with my wife to East London, Wild Coast & Hogsback & don't think I could have done it on anything better. (Lekker long distance tar cruiser & more than good enough on the dirt)
As a one bike garage, I don't think you will find better.
My exact point, maar nee die man se gat jeuk mos.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Hinksding on May 30, 2016, 06:04:10 pm
Ets: Jeuk U anus, of is U opsoek na geselskap?

Btw, lekker interessante thread.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: jaybiker on May 30, 2016, 06:17:48 pm
I have R160 000?

Nah, bloody scammers can do better than that, yesterday I had 1000 000 GB pounds.  :patch:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Nimmo on May 30, 2016, 06:24:03 pm
IMHO - Buy a 2012 990  ::)

The 1190's don't hold value  :peepwall:
As for the AT - 3 manufacturers in 1 year - M I D L I F E C R I S I S  :ricky: :pot:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Draadwerk on May 30, 2016, 07:02:11 pm
1190 R. 👍🏻
Title: Re:
Post by: 2wdrift on May 30, 2016, 07:50:23 pm
If all you can spend is 160k get the honda, the KTM maintenance and repairs will be expensive and ongoing. But if you can afford it the KTM is the way to go for fun.

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Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Jehan on May 30, 2016, 08:32:17 pm
Ek vote vir die AT.

Wel, seker maar omdat ek n AT man is. Wou voorheen die 1190R aangeskaf het, maar noudat die AT daar is ...... verseker die AT!
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: WildWood on May 30, 2016, 08:33:19 pm
What makes one think maintenance will be cheaper than KTM?

What dealer network is going to service the bikes?

How do we know they'll be more reliable than the KTM?

All we have is a two year long media manipulation and well orchestrated campaign to build up a demand and how well it has worked.

Don't think that because the old AT was great twenty years ago that the new model will be the same. It might be, but we don't know.

I think the 950/990 was one of best bikes ever built and the fact I did almost 180000km on my two without a single mechanical backs that up. But The 1190's although without doubt are better performers are not in the same league.

Judge the AT in two years.

For now, buy the 1190R
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Bundu on May 30, 2016, 10:23:05 pm
hang af wat jy soek...
reliability, vat die AT
excitement, kry 'n 1190R 2de hands wat se kak gesort is

Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: VaalBaas on May 30, 2016, 10:35:49 pm
Ken nie een van die 2 nie, maar my vote is in.

Soek maar vir jou n HP2. Baie meer as wat hier te kenne gegee sal word ;)
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 31, 2016, 07:24:57 am
It depends where you ride, how you ride, and for how long you'd want to keep the bike.

1190 prices seem to fall faster than most other bikes?

If I were to buy a Fat Annie, it would be the AT, currently.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: weskus on May 31, 2016, 07:37:43 am
Krels, die SE en die HP was lekker fietse op hul tyd, maar dis 10jr terug :peepwall: :pot: en die high maintenance KTM storie is ook sommer bull, ek het 'n 800GS nuut gekoop wat ligjare duurder onderhou het, saam elke diens 'n stel wheelbearings, en dan is daar nog die lewensgevaarlike issue ook..
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: VaalBaas on May 31, 2016, 07:44:19 am
Krels, die SE en die HP was lekker fietse op hul tyd, maar dis 10jr terug :peepwall: :pot: en die high maintenance KTM storie is ook sommer bull, ek het 'n 800GS nuut gekoop wat ligjare duurder onderhou het, saam elke diens 'n stel wheelbearings, en dan is daar nog die lewensgevaarlike issue ook..

Ja is so, maar ek hou my maar in my ouderdomsgroep :imaposer:

Dei HP was 10 jaar terug te veel vir my, en streeds is ek nie sy baas nie
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Nimmo on May 31, 2016, 07:44:54 am
Krels, die SE en die HP was lekker fietse op hul tyd, maar dis 10jr terug :peepwall: :pot: en die high maintenance KTM storie is ook sommer bull, ek het 'n 800GS nuut gekoop wat ligjare duurder onderhou het, saam elke diens 'n stel wheelbearings, en dan is daar nog die lewensgevaarlike issue ook..

Is sulke opmerkings wat mense ontstig, nog voor hulle die teendeel kan bewys. Ek stem saam  ;)
800 was loshande die fiets wat ek minste van gehou of gedink het  :lamer:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: funacide on May 31, 2016, 07:48:55 am
For me buying a bike has nothing to do with logic, better resale value or after sales service.

Buying a bike is a passion and you should go for the one that makes you smile and want to ride more. IMO you buy a bike with your heart and emotions and not your brain

1190R for me... :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Bundu on May 31, 2016, 07:51:18 am
For me buying a bike has nothing to do with logic, better resale value or after sales service.

Buying a bike is a passion and you should go for the one that makes you smile and want to ride more. IMO you buy a bike with your heart and emotions and not your brain

1190R for me... :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
:thumleft:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: popipants on May 31, 2016, 08:02:30 am
If you park your bike and walk away and you don't look back.....then you own a Honda  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: sidetrack on May 31, 2016, 08:15:15 am
AT makes the same power as a SE and HP2 ? I vote AT, did not like it in the beginning untill I saw the red and white one. Must say I think it looks better than a 1190 R, and also sure to become a legend like the older AT's ?
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Rexc-w on May 31, 2016, 09:11:55 am
Help me out here. A 1190R sold for around R150k in 2013.  If you get R130k now for a well looked after bike - I think it is fair wrt retaining value?
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: popipants on May 31, 2016, 09:29:50 am
Help me out here. A 1190R sold for around R150k in 2013.  If you get R130k now for a well looked after bike - I think it is fair wrt retaining value?
I agree, people forget how much the new price have increased since 2013.
They thinking in terms of paying R200k now.

Also wonder how people can call the AT reliable??
None of them have enough KM on to judge that just yet. Yes in the past Honda was reliable, but every model is different.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 31, 2016, 10:41:00 am
If you park your bike and walk away and you don't look back.....then you own a Honda  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


If you park your bike to go out for a lekker meal with the miss.. then you own a Honda.

1st you got there with no issues, and you have money in your pocket to pay for the meal.

How can we say Honda is reliable.. show me one that isn't.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Snafu on May 31, 2016, 11:26:05 am
If you park your bike and walk away and you don't look back.....then you own a Honda  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


I agree 100%, I never worry about oil dripping from my bike
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on May 31, 2016, 11:46:24 am
 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on May 31, 2016, 12:02:22 pm
For me buying a bike has nothing to do with logic, better resale value or after sales service.

Buying a bike is a passion and you should go for the one that makes you smile and want to ride more. IMO you buy a bike with your heart and emotions and not your brain

1190R for me... :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Could not have put it better!
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: 2wdrift on May 31, 2016, 12:06:07 pm
Help me out here. A 1190R sold for around R150k in 2013.  If you get R130k now for a well looked after bike - I think it is fair wrt retaining value?
I agree, people forget how much the new price have increased since 2013.
They thinking in terms of paying R200k now.

Also wonder how people can call the AT reliable??
None of them have enough KM on to judge that just yet. Yes in the past Honda was reliable, but every model is different.

If its airbox was designed by anyone other than a chimp it will be more reliable overall...

I had my 1190 for nearly 2 years, in that time it spent 6 months at the dealership.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: RedWolf on May 31, 2016, 12:11:41 pm
I am a big big Honda fan and have owned several KTM's. If it was my choice, I would pick the AT, just because it is close to my current bike in riding style.

I have taken few 1190R's for a spin and although it is probably just as dirt worthy as the AT, it feels less so and a bit more tar orientated. In the same way the 1190 is basically just as dirt worthy as the 990R that I currently own, but the 990R just feels happier when on rough technical terrain.

The other reason is that the AT feels like a more 'exclusive' bike to me at this point in time. But again, this is my perception and my heart talking. I love the 1190R and the specs of it, but for some reason it doesn't trigger my emotional side like the 990R does.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: LuckyStriker on May 31, 2016, 12:25:44 pm
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on May 31, 2016, 12:33:29 pm
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

The time, the time :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 31, 2016, 12:34:06 pm
Krels, die SE en die HP was lekker fietse op hul tyd, maar dis 10jr terug :peepwall: :pot: en die high maintenance KTM storie is ook sommer bull, ek het 'n 800GS nuut gekoop wat ligjare duurder onderhou het, saam elke diens 'n stel wheelbearings, en dan is daar nog die lewensgevaarlike issue ook..

Ja, oooo daai lewensgevaarlik issue, ek kry skoon hoendervleis.......
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 31, 2016, 12:38:42 pm
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

Not the worst advice at all, I was gonna sell my Transalp 700 and buy the AT for sure, but selling a bike in this market is not the easiest thing in the world especially with winter approaching, so ive been thinking of a South America trip with the money instead and just keep the transalp.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: 2StrokeDan on May 31, 2016, 08:19:54 pm
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

The time, the time :-[ :-[ :-[

Wealth does not mean money only, it's money and time.
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Bensien on May 31, 2016, 08:31:12 pm
A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Buff on May 31, 2016, 08:55:39 pm
Husky 701 and two garages full of beer  ;)
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Hinksding on May 31, 2016, 09:44:06 pm
Help me out here. A 1190R sold for around R150k in 2013.  If you get R130k now for a well looked after bike - I think it is fair wrt retaining value?


Also wonder how people can call the AT reliable??



Makes me also wonder.  Just because the old 1150 did 100000 kms without a blink doesn't make the new 1200LC theee most reliable DS bike ever!
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Kaboef on May 31, 2016, 10:00:11 pm
A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer

Finally some sense.

Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on June 01, 2016, 11:31:09 am
Husky 701 and two garages full of beer  ;)

Now thats a plan :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: ETS on June 01, 2016, 11:31:49 am
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

The time, the time :-[ :-[ :-[

Wealth does not mean money only, it's money and time.

That is so very very true :-\ :-\
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Ceaser on June 01, 2016, 12:40:20 pm
BMW's services are in most cases the same price as KTM's , so is owning a KTM really more expensive?

No one likes a dead standard bike, so your 160 is quickly going to become 180 or 190, so I would much rather buy a 1or2 year old bike and get all the farkles with it. Saves you loads of money

1190R is the answer
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Post by: BlomC on June 01, 2016, 01:06:07 pm
Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.
Title: Re:
Post by: Sputnik080 on June 01, 2016, 01:43:58 pm
Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe?  :pot:
Title: Re:
Post by: ETS on June 01, 2016, 02:04:43 pm
Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe?  :pot:

Nee ek bevind my tans op Prieska Internasionaal waar die vlugte gestack is agv n duisendpoot wat op km 8 oor die aanloopbaan stap
Title: Re:
Post by: Sputnik080 on June 01, 2016, 02:11:37 pm
Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe?  :pot:

Nee ek bevind my tans op Prieska Internasionaal waar die vlugte gestack is agv n duisendpoot wat op km 8 oor die aanloopbaan stap

Ag, ek is seker KTM Springs sal vir jou wag vir daai ekstra uur of wat.
Wie weet, dalk kry jy nog 'n loop dop voor jy vertrek................
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: XRRX on June 03, 2016, 06:20:01 pm
If you park your bike and walk away and you don't look back.....then you own a Honda  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:


But I always look back ...  :'( :-[ :peepwall:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: LuckyStriker on June 03, 2016, 11:59:53 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: Bikerboer1973 on June 04, 2016, 11:35:09 pm
I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

Not the worst advice at all, I was gonna sell my Transalp 700 and buy the AT for sure, but selling a bike in this market is not the easiest thing in the world especially with winter approaching, so ive been thinking of a South America trip with the money instead and just keep the transalp.

Agreed, went for a test ride on the new AT and man what a lovely bike, smooth as silk and great all rounder. BUT, I will not trade my Vardero or Transalp for one, it's just not worth it unless money is not a problem then you should have bought it already  ;).
Title: Re: You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????
Post by: lecap on June 05, 2016, 09:47:36 am
A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer

Finally some sense.



My first thought was a nice late model low mileage DR650SE (I'd take a new one if it was possible) and an epic three month round trip Nam - Vic Falls - Malawi - Dar - Moz.

The situation was similar when we got married. Two DR's (and some change) just seemed to make so much more sense than one R1150GS. And they still do today.


I never was a fan of the big DS bikers with maybe the one and only exception of the Tiger 900 in the days just after I came to SA and whilst the memories of my European road biking days were still fresh. Hence no vote from my side in this poll.


In general I'd go for the Honda simply because it is new. Alternatively save until I can afford the KTM new.