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Title: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2008, 10:53:58 pm
Seeing as photobucket stopped working for me I thought I would update this post with fresh pictures.  

*I was asked to do a bit of a show &  tell on Peru because many of you have never been there but would love to go; and

*This plan of working here was somewhat driven by the idea that Peru would be good base to spend a few years biking South America from

I figured I would write a taster of what is to come, and perhaps a couple of words of advice for those wishing to come out here sometime. So forgive me for the lack of biking stuff at the moment, but I promise it will get better in time to come. So here goes:

Peru is a bikers paradise so long as you donīt spend too much time in Lima. You think the traffic is bad in South Africa? Forget it. Put it this way - The average cage driver in Lima would be killed by roadrage within 10 minutes in Jozie. Iīll never have a problem with taxis in SA again. The traffic here is terrible, not only are the roads totally overcrowded but people like to turn left accross four lanes of traffic without indicating. Its got to be seen to be believed.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG9283/729046891_Ms8HS-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0059/729046725_g2i9s-M.jpg)

Lima is on the coast, and is very similar to Johberg actually, nice areas that would put Sandton to shame, surrounded by poorer areas with not much of a middle class.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0028/729046140_MQg7K-M.jpg)


If you dont have so much money, you can always live in Communist blocks ;D
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0004/729045484_FrnoH-M.jpg)

The local golf course is excellent, but it costs $30,000 to join so that the cheap people canīt get in. A 250m apartment will set you back between $100-600k depending on your taste, but transport and food here is relatively cheap. We got a house for $450k, interest rate only 8%, fixed for 10yrs in 2007, I have been told its value is up by 30% since then:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Our-House-200708-0045/729009943_aE8Zk-M.jpg)


Some other houses, nice spanish influence:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0016/729045940_JigQU-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0015/729045750_WEwqK-M.jpg)

These guys pride themselves on their entrances:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0043/729046255_QFAar-M.jpg)




The food...ahh the food, its excellent, and the choice of resturants & cuisine here is unparalled.  This was our first taste of a peruvian raw fish dish: "ceviche" which I think is very nice, its serve with lemon jouice squeezed over and some chilli. Daleen hates it ;D

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Pachacamac0056/729010094_2WtdE-M.jpg)

 
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2008, 11:11:24 pm
The weather in Lima at this time of year is like Swakokpmund, only its a fog with a lot more smoke in it.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/IMG0046/729046324_9D7UL-M.jpg)

You wont see the sun between May and November and this is the same time of year, the mountains have beautiful blue skies. This photo is taken from one of the mine entrances where I work. Its at 4,600m above sea level.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Pachapaqui4198/729884174_P4yfQ-L.jpg)


Well most of the time. Up there the rest of the time, its freezing rain, snow, light polystyrene like hail and sleet.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various028/729478912_zN9tN-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various027/729478628_7daJ7-M.jpg)

Looks like lesotho, except this is 5,000m up  :eek7:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various029/729478837_ptf57-M.jpg)

Llamas (Pronounced Yamas), actually these are Alpacaīs
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various031/729479098_wu5as-M.jpg)

Mountain farmhouse
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various030/729479204_aQDVe-M.jpg)

The roads into the mountains are pretty awesome, as is the famous railway line built in 1901. This is the same railwayway you see in that Tintin comic, Prisoners of the Sun.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various021/729478077_rJvBj-L.jpg)


The beaches are about an hour to the south of Lima and in the summer there is a migration of perhaps a third of Limas population of 8 million to these beaches, not ulike the annual CT & durb migration back home. Further to the south you get beaches to yourself. In this photo you can see rocks on the beach that have fallen from the cliffs after that earthquake measuring 8.1 back in 2007.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various002/729475602_BJokX-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various001/729475935_wHVae-M.jpg)

Here is a red beach if you want a change.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various033/729479349_cGYpW-M.jpg)

There used to be an arch like in the Eastern cape (only bigger) which collapsed in that earthquake. This is what is left.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various003/729475592_qcoMa-L.jpg)

There is an awesome desert running along the coast.  :drif:  I plan to do a "lewensgevaarlike" RR with Mrs BB here in the next couple of months.  :mwink: Just got to get her used to sand
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various034/729479348_zVZFK-M.jpg)

Being South Africans, we love lewensgevaarlik. Here is a fellow bluebull supporter taking a chance on a piece of rock that did not fall 100m into the sea below in the earthquake. Pissies will never be heros  :biggrin:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various032/729479202_zie3v-L.jpg)


Im a mountain type person so thats where I prefer to go. It helps that my job involves travelling to mines at high altitude away from people. Ive done a few RRīs but here are some more general pics.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0081/729009837_4derY-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0016/729009793_bpcMj-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0078/729009775_M9CeQ-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0045/729009609_5XwpY-L.jpg)

Bike herding dog ;D
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0039/729009550_qwJzu-M.jpg)

Village Square (plaza las armas)
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0042/729009595_jTDPp-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0057/729009708_wwoVh-M.jpg)

Mountain market day
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Mountains200708-0055/729009660_kiMRF-L.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2008, 11:38:08 pm
Im battling to embed the pics properly in the text, sorry. <fixed, thanks!>

Here are some pics of the road to Cerro de Pasco, one of the mines where I work used to work, at an altitude of 4300m above sea level.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various024/729478313_y24xP-L.jpg)


Its Peruīs answer to the Gulag, a communist type culture here inherited from the late seventies and eighties. Kids playing in the lead found naturally in the ground in the gardens of thier houses biult around the mine. This mine is propably the most famous mine in Peru, having started back in the early 1600īs, and the silver, lead and zinc found here is responsible to the development of Lima, the railway system in Peru, and also funded a couple of wars against Chile and Ecuador.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various023/729478473_PswfA-M.jpg)

Some orphans of Cerro de Pasco.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Orphans0013/729009866_yqCnN-M.jpg)

Most kids look 5-10yrs older than they are, adults look 20 yrs older. Thats what living at altitude does to you. Life here is grim, very cold and miserable. These people have nothing, no bedding, no pillows, no heaters, nothing. Theyre often hungry.

Yet still people here are proud of their heritage and past, and are very nationalistic. Its refreshing.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Mark Hardy on July 03, 2008, 11:38:47 pm
More please. I have long dreamt about riding the lenght of South America. What is the country like away from the cities and how are the locals. Whats the economy like and the work situation.

cheers
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 03, 2008, 11:58:49 pm
Its going to take me a while to update a better and full picture, but I will come back to you on your QÂīs, Mark.

The mountain roads are AWESOME!!   :drif:  :drif:  :drif:  :drif:

You have passes that climb up to 5200m above sea level. Most of them are dirt, and some of them very rough. Imagine, driving for 3-4 hours to get to the top up something like Sani pass or Prince Albert pass.  Often you end up with cliff on one side of the road and 400m drop on the other. It takes character to ride in a cage on these roads, the biggest vehicle wins, and this would make any biker knuip a bit on the bends! I wouldnt try sliding round all these corners.

There are plenty of bikes here, but theyre mostly the crap from Taiwan and china, nothing above 125 cc. I rode a state of the art RTM  :biggrin: which was more a Honda look alike with zero oommph and squeaky suspension, no balance and let me tell l you Im not going to do it again! Not on these roads anyway.

They dont have BMW  bike dealer here, but there is a KTM and Honda Shop. A new 450 will set you US$9,000 (no way...! WAY), and 640 KTM can be bought for cash with discount for only USD17,000. Forget it. Id rather buy a couple at home and ship em out here for 5 sticks. yep that 5,000 dollars. Then there is import tax...anything between 3000 and 7000 dollars on a BMW 800 GS, if you do a importe temporal, you only have to give them a bank gaurentee for this amount, which you get back when the bike leaves the country. Its not cheap, but looking at these roads it is worth the pain.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 04, 2008, 12:18:47 am
Locals are friendly, but 99% of them dont know a word of english. The local economy is doing very well, in many ways its similar to SA, in that there is boundless potential. Corruption is here, but not too prevalent. The crime situation is safe compared to SA. There are your usual crime stats in the cities, but there is a very very heavy police presence (something we could learn about back home) that ensures that peace prevails. Peru has big time drug problem, and guess what, most of the drugs go out from here to South Africa and Holland. My mate in interpol picks up a south african donkey here about once every two weeks here at least, and there must be over 100 south africans jailed here each year for shipping drugs via Sao Paulo. Consequently if you are South African, you are associated with drugs or smuggling. One needs to be aware of that.

Work is good: Businesses are required to pay 10% of their post tax profits to their employees, its 8% for mining companies. You get 15 salaries, company medical aid, and pension deductions, along with 30-38% tax. VAT here is 19%.

I really see this country booming in the next ten years, it has gotten over the terrorist issues, they are on the verge of siging a US trade agreement, and tourism is really underdeveloped compared to SA. To give you an idea of the potential, there are 3500 visitors to Macchu Picchu every day, and the average spent per tourist for the day is around USD500. They have a bit of white water rafting, trekking, boating, climbing, ice climbing, jungle walking, surfing etc, but there are simply not enough hotels about, and much of the tourist activities are rustic, and reasonably disorganized.

More coming soon....
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 04, 2008, 12:28:57 am
Could someone explain to me how to embed the pics in the text please? Fixed, thanks!

On the Amazon side of the mountains you regularly get washouts and roads slide down mountains.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various012/729477181_DYkDh-M.jpg)

Of course this is where you see Peruvian driving at its best  ::)
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various013/729477162_34LxK-M.jpg)

The bus drivers on the main roads are lunatics. Lunatics. People regulary fall into gorges or hit other trucks/busses on the blind corners. Its a good reason to stay off the main roads.

On the amazon side of the mountains the river begin to swell:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various011/729477001_UU2UY-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various014/729477400_XUDUU-M.jpg)

Rivers the size of the Vaal and Orange are very common, even the tributaries to the Amazon are 3-15km wide. There is a serious amount of water here. Its a bit overwhelming for us africans.

This is a picture of Tingo Maria, known for its cocaine growing and its famous ridge overlooking the jungle town that looks like the "sleeping woman"  :patch:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various015/729477387_5LNXm-M.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Mark Hardy on July 04, 2008, 05:16:01 am
Thanks so much for posting, You need to use Photo Bucket or similar to do whole imbeding thing. Go to www.photobucket.com and register/open an account (it's free). Makes loading photos abreeze and you are able to embed your pics where you want in your RR's.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 04, 2008, 05:28:35 am
Thanks so much for posting, You need to use Photo Bucket or similar to do whole imbeding thing. Go to www.photobucket.com and register/open an account (it's free). Makes loading photos abreeze and you are able to embed your pics where you want in your RR's.
Sorry, Im a bit dumb with these things: So once Ive registered, then do I cut & paste the url in the "insert image" thingymabob thing or what?
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Welsh on July 04, 2008, 06:03:15 am
Thanks so much for posting, You need to use Photo Bucket or similar to do whole imbeding thing. Go to www.photobucket.com and register/open an account (it's free). Makes loading photos abreeze and you are able to embed your pics where you want in your RR's.
Sorry, Im a bit dumb with these things: So once Ive registered, then do I cut & paste the url in the "insert image" thingymabob thing or what?

Once registerred you upload the images into PHOTOBUCKET using the "CHOOSE FILES" simply open the file and upload, to embed in your report cop and paste the IMG Code under the Image.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 04, 2008, 06:21:29 am
Thanks ou boet  :P
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Mark Hardy on July 04, 2008, 06:26:36 am
Here's a step by step guide by MellowYellow

Step1
Log on to an image hosting Web site, such as Photo Bucket (http://www.photobucket.com/). This requires setting up an account, but only basic information is needed.
Step2
Click on "Browse". This brings up a window that allows you to access your saved photos. Double click on the file you want. It will automatically appear in the box next to "Browse". Once you see it in green, click "Upload".
Step3
Look for the photo to appear below the upload box. Next to it, you can see 4 lines of codes. Each code has a specific function, but the one you want is "HTML tag" and begins with "< hrefâ?Ķ?.>
Step4
Copy and paste the code into the text box of whatever you are posting. If it's a MySpace comment, place the cursor where you want the picture to appear and paste the code at that point. If it is for a blog, you may have to paste it and then re-arrange the positioning based on that particular blog site's directions.
Step5
Re-size the picture if it appears too large or too small. Usually if the picture needs re-sizing it's because it's too big (over 60K). Go back to the image hosting site and choose "Re-size" for the picture. From here you can choose to enlarge or reduce the size. Be sure to check whether you want the newly resized photo to replace the original or upload as a copy. Do this before clicking "OK" so you don't lose your original if you don't want to.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: bmad on July 04, 2008, 07:47:20 am
Thanks for posting BlueBull2007

Very nice info and pics.
Quick question, do you get to travel much as a tourist?

One of my goals is to travel with my family to Peru to visit Machu Picchu, have you been?
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 04, 2008, 03:18:08 pm
Yes, you cannot come to Peru and not do Macchu Picchu. Its expensive, but it is the one tourist thing that is very well organised.

Cucso is 2-3 days drive from Lima, so most people catch a local flight for about $300.00 The drive is spectacular, and there a lot of things to see on the way.

Then its a four hour train ride down to Agua Caliente, followed by a 30min bus ride up to Machu Piccu itself. The day starts at 6 and ends at 9pm. Its a long day. I would suggest you travel the night before and stay in Agua Caliente for the night, so you can be up early before the crowds to do Pacchu Picchu. If youre early as well, you will have the opportunity to climb that peak you see in the background of all the pictures. Its about a two hour climb and has limit of 400 people per day. Total cost is around $500pp.

I would strongly suggest you have a look at some of the ruins in the sacred valley and around Cusco itself. Well worth it.

Having said that, Cuzco is a bit of a tourist trap. There are some other inca ruins that are much more interesting IMHO and arent nearly as touristic and expensive, but for these you need to spend some time in country.

There is really so much to do here, I think the best way to explore it is on a bike. Make sure if you come over you have at least a month, because Peru really is an amazing place.

I dont get all that much time off to explore at the moment, but I do get two months leave per year  :biggrin: So I have done a fair amount of travelling, for work as well. We are realy waiting for our bikes to come in, and then every weekend we will be doing something.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: LeonDude on July 04, 2008, 09:34:05 pm
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BMWPE on July 06, 2008, 05:17:06 pm
Thanks for that
Very interesting
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BigEd on July 07, 2008, 07:14:11 pm
Nice one Bloubul! Lyk naais.

O, voor ek vergeet - WP!! ;)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Hoofseun on August 15, 2008, 09:33:45 am
Hi there

Good information, can't wait till you get your trips organised and I believe this will lead to much more interesting information and more photos (now that you have been using Photo Bucket).

Maybe we should seriously consider saving for the 2010 FWC get away from here to where you are.  Best wishes for you and D and enjoy the biking.

Maybe I can also pick-up the photos from your SwaziTrax from PhotoBucket in some way or other, other email it to me, my email can take quite large size attachements.

 :ricky:

Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: roxenz on December 09, 2008, 09:53:19 am
Hola Blou bul! Como estas?

I've only visited Peru twice, but thoroughly enjoyed it.  The people are just brilliant! I'm jealous!

Remember a wild afternoon at the restaurant at the Jockey Club, after the owner (who is also a trainer) had his first win.

When you have time, head far south, into the Atacama.  Beyond the Nazca lines. (although you may stop at Nazca, there's a guy called Mikey, he has won the Peruvian rally title a few times, and he takes people into the dunes (+1000m high!) with V8 powered pipe cars - dune buggies.)  But carry on, until you reach the small fishing village of Lomas (Punta Lomas).  There a widow of an architect running a small lodge/hotel (just a few rooms, not 5 star).  It's brilliant.  Oh, and the olives and the ceviche camarones! Man, I'd go back there anyday, even if my Espanol makes the locals roll on the floor...
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 12, 2008, 11:34:22 pm
Hola Blou bul! Como estas?

I've only visited Peru twice, but thoroughly enjoyed it.  The people are just brilliant! I'm jealous!

Remember a wild afternoon at the restaurant at the Jockey Club, after the owner (who is also a trainer) had his first win.

When you have time, head far south, into the Atacama.  Beyond the Nazca lines. (although you may stop at Nazca, there's a guy called Mikey, he has won the Peruvian rally title a few times, and he takes people into the dunes (+1000m high!) with V8 powered pipe cars - dune buggies.)  But carry on, until you reach the small fishing village of Lomas (Punta Lomas).  There a widow of an architect running a small lodge/hotel (just a few rooms, not 5 star).  It's brilliant.  Oh, and the olives and the ceviche camarones! Man, I'd go back there anyday, even if my Espanol makes the locals roll on the floor...

Howzit,

Thanks for the post and advice. We have driven to Cusco past Nazca, from there you have to turn inland. Have also been exploring up north, but I think our next trip on our bikes will take us down past Punta Lomas. Will definitely stop by there.

Wow, most Safricans have never been here you must be one of the few rare people who have! Aparrantly there are less than 3000 SA citizens visitng here per year. If you are coming back please feel free to stay with us while you are in Lima.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: Padvark (ex Gee-S-rider) on December 14, 2008, 03:03:28 pm
Hey BlueBull,

I'm green with envy that you have the opportunity to live there, and most of all bike there. I visited Peru three years ago (not on bike though) and have been longing to ride the great mountain roads. We visited the Manu biosphere reserve for five days of camping and the road leading there from Cusco is amazing as it transverses the mountain range and drops off into the jungle.

Post more pics of your rides, can't wait to see and dream.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: GO GIRL on August 21, 2009, 12:08:36 pm
BB what a privilege yep I was in Chile...but not for the pleasure of riding.....

the South Americas is certainly on my wish list to ride in..... :drif: :drif:

Must agree with you the people are amazing....not too mention the cuisine..... :thumleft:

You are very fortunate..... :)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 23, 2009, 06:20:57 am
BB what a privilege yep I was in Chile...but not for the pleasure of riding.....

the South Americas is certainly on my wish list to ride in..... :drif: :drif:

Must agree with you the people are amazing....not too mention the cuisine..... :thumleft:

You are very fortunate..... :)

Well get out here again, sis ;D we welcome WD's at our pad.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: GO GIRL on August 24, 2009, 08:17:19 am
and your missus also did a super trip up ther in the mountains...

How fortunate you both are... :mwink:

tell her to keep travelling and riding..... :thumleft:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: urbanXcountry on November 08, 2009, 06:21:33 am
Peru is awesome. It has everything from deserts to snow-peaked mountains and deep jungle. Here's a shot I took in the ica desert last year. I haven't done any motorcycling there yet, but hope to some day. The roads I have been on there are just calling out for a 650.

(http://www.rickwake.com/peru-ica-1.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like?
Post by: urbanXcountry on November 09, 2009, 08:16:29 am
(http://www.rickwake.com/peru-peak.jpg)

Shot from Route 3S between Cusco and Cachora... A lovely stretch of road.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cachora,+peru&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.685917,61.171875&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cachora,+Peru&ll=-13.558392,-72.797642&spn=0.142847,0.119476&t=h&z=13 (http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cachora,+peru&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.685917,61.171875&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cachora,+Peru&ll=-13.558392,-72.797642&spn=0.142847,0.119476&t=h&z=13)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 02, 2009, 05:46:03 pm
I love your pics of the mountains & desert. I really need to spend some decent time capturing a few more photos like this. BTW  I updated the whole thread with a bunch of new photos.

More on Macchu Picchu for those of you interested, a taster  ;)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various006/729476110_rhngq-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various005/729476010_Wg5D6-M.jpg)

Of course everyone has the famous pic:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various007/729476366_2UFuf-M.jpg)

For me the scenery is more interesting than the place itself. But it is very remote. Its amazing that people decided to build this city so far from anywhere, no wonder it was never discovered by the Spanish. Actually the whole thing was covered in jungle when it was discovered less than 100yrs ago.

Apart from this there are a lot of really interesting historical sites, less visited by the casual tourist, and in many case far more spectacular. These I have kept back for future ride reports. You need time to visit this country thats for sure.

Here is another site of interest: A graveyard in the desert a couple of thousand years old. Slightly macabre...mummified bodies still with 2m long hair... :o
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various008/729476343_7ydk5-M.jpg)

There are bones that have blown about everywhere...
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various009/729476322_oiqo7-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various010/729476580_mC4ut-M.jpg)

Close to Lima are the pre-Inca ruins of Pachacamac (try to say that after drinking Brinkīs brandwurm!). It doesnt look like much in this photo but the place is huge.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Pachacamac0047/729010026_P4CKu-M.jpg)

Really sweet people. This place was used for young virgins selected at 3-5yrs to be "grown" until 15-16yrs of age. Theyre were then sacrificed privately by the priests. (http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Pachacamac0053/729010044_Mn9tP-M.jpg)

Who knows what abuse these people were subjected to? A once "great" nation that now longer exists. Hmm, food for thought.

Lima is famous for its park of fountains. Theyre very spectacular and one reaches a height of over 82m.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various017/729478208_5VyA7-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various019/729477786_zBMgX-M.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/PeruGeneral/Peru-Various020/729477870_eQqNQ-M.jpg)

Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: GO GIRL on December 19, 2009, 04:38:35 pm
WoW! Thanks for adding those stunning pics...must do this!!

Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: Battlestar on December 21, 2009, 10:41:43 am
Definately the continent to ride through  :thumleft: Awesome pics
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: The Badger on January 07, 2010, 01:39:48 pm
Awesome report. Thanks and enjoy.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: fat b on March 02, 2010, 08:57:00 am
Very very nice to read ! Very refreshing !  :thumleft: 
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: cloudgazer on March 02, 2010, 09:11:16 am
Thanks to you I think South America is the mosyt beautiful place on earth.

I could so easily live there.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: Kaptein Bos on March 02, 2010, 09:12:05 am
Here is my famous pic as mentioned:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: Kaptein Bos on March 02, 2010, 09:13:25 am
Oh and I was there:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: Just Blip It! on May 05, 2010, 10:32:51 pm
Awesome!
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: domstes on May 06, 2010, 08:51:08 am
I just have to go.

BlueBull I am sure you are TIRED of answering all these stupid questions. BUT

Can you rent a good motorcycle there or is it better to buy one and then sell it again?

You say the bus drivers are CRAZY there so what it is the best way to get from ons place to the next if you do not want to drive yourself.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: Berm_Rooster on May 06, 2010, 11:27:26 am
BB, you gotta give us more man!
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 28, 2010, 05:05:28 pm
I just have to go.

BlueBull I am sure you are TIRED of answering all these stupid questions. BUT

Can you rent a good motorcycle there or is it better to buy one and then sell it again?

You say the bus drivers are CRAZY there so what it is the best way to get from ons place to the next if you do not want to drive yourself.

You can rent a DS bike for around USD280/day. Its not so easy to do in practice because no one here wants to hire out their bikes. The smaller bikes KTM450 for about half that. Iīll rent you my 800GS for USD190/day for 1-5 days, or less for a longer period if you like. Im sure I could get a similar rate (maybe) if I speak to my KTM mates for a 990.

If youre going to do a long trip, its definitely better to buy one and sell it again.

The best way to get from A to B in Peru is by plane or bus if you dont want to drive yourself. Buses are cool if youre a locals and or a backpacker. Hiring a car is a good option, if you can handle Johberg traffic. Its worse here, but pissies will never be heros ;) The ultimate of course is motorbikes, and surprisingly I am able to handle the traffic easier on a bike than in a car, donīt be put off by the badass drivers, once you are out of town the main roads are basically empty compared to RSA.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated with new pics>
Post by: BlueBull2007 on May 28, 2010, 05:29:40 pm
Ok this thread has been quite popular so it probably time for an update:

Living in Peru is cool because there are lots of interesting places to visit.

Here are a few photos from our trip last weekend in the Amazon jungle, which forms the biggest and most remote part of Peru by far.

We flew to Iquitos, about 2 hours from Lima, there are no roads to this jungle town, it is a three week journey by boat from the mouth of the Amazon. Or you can fly there. This is what the road in from the airport looks like. Lots of three wheeled moto taxi&acute;s trying to commit suicide everywhere.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9198/881645829_n9nrB-M.jpg)


Downtown Iquitos has a market with over 70,000 stores hidden in these buildings.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9218/881645875_GrTkW-L.jpg)



In the middle of the hustle and bustle I notice two small people having breakfast.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9225/881645907_daaC8-L.jpg)


The river is really, REALLY huge, In Brazil it gets up to 30km wide. Where we were is was only 7km wide and on average 25m deep. Its hard to appreciate the true size of it, because often you are in one channel which seems like the whole river, and the banks are merely islands. To give you an idea, the difference in high and low water seasons is around 20 vertical metres, sometimes 30m if there is a lot of rain. So choosing where to live is important. Bangladeshis would not last long here.

I thought this was the river, but I was told it was only an oxbow lake on the edge of Iquitos. In the dry season they grow rice here.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9227/881645945_c6n3V-L.jpg)


We took a high speed boat trip for about hours downstream. Here is a view of part of the river:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9584/881646487_cXFg4-L.jpg)



We stayed a river lodge which was very nice. Its hot, about 35 degrees C and 100% humidity. The gringoes were all whinging about the heat and the mossies. Except us - Africa has made us tough!  :biggrin:

We went looking for fresh water dolphins. Theyre about 3m long and bright pink. Way too quick for a camera. Here is a typical river transport for the locals, though there are much bigger ships on the amazon too. Take a look at how low it is in the water.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9311/881645991_eCaeS-L.jpg)


Incidently yesterday they had an overloaded ship capsize about 3 km upstream from where we were staying, 180 people on board, 12 bodies so far. I guess more people can swim in the Amazon than on African rivers.

Here is a Blue Bulls rugby supporter on Saturday preparing to shoot blow darts with the local indian chief.  ;D

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9342/881646000_6GpiB-L.jpg)


The Bulls get support everywhere in the world.  :thumleft: Of course we had to download the game and only watched it on Sunday night. Its hard not to get the result beforehand. But I digress.

I was quite good at the blowpipe thing, and was able to hit a 10cm wide target 30m away - A tree. That poison they have is very cool. Darts are so quiet, and the poison apparently paralyses a person in about one to two minutes. Perhaps I should put up some of these on Ebay to help with the crime situation back home.


These water lilies are 2-3m wide. They grow in about a week, and last a total of 5 weeks. A great anaconda hideout apparently.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9490/881646469_y2uGP-L.jpg)


Everything in the Amazon is big. From the trees...

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9474/881646333_foG34-L.jpg)


This one is about 60-70m high, complete with its own ecosystem of plants, birds, lizards, snakes, monkeys and insects.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9479/881646369_GHt44-L.jpg)




..to the spiders. Don0t be fooled by the leaves, this is a plate-sized tarantula:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9468a/881646307_5FHwJ-L.jpg)


Theyre fine, until you actually come accross one in the bloody bush!  :o Freaking HUGE and freaking scary. For me anyway.  :patch:
I have a pic of a bird eating spider somewhere too, theyre pretty unpleasant insects. You dont really want to touch them either. Even the hair on those things is caustic.

Walking through the jungle is an experience of note. Every living thing seems hostile and ready to eat you, plants that sting, insects trying to get to you to lay eggs that turn into flesh eating maggots, or maybe just to sting, difficult terrain to move in, thousands of mossies. Millions of frogs, most of the bright ones are highly poisonous of course. It sounds awful but its actually really spectacular and amazing too. It's eat-or-be-eaten country, and its amazing to see how much of it there still is. Hundreds, thousands of kilometers of virgin rainforest still exists in the upper Amazon. Just wear long sleeves and long pants if you go there, it makes life a lot easier. We all survived fine, but some of the group had perhaps 30-40 bites after our little 3 hour jaunt. Repellant doesnt seem to help.

There are also a lot of nice things in the jungle too. Like all the different monkeys, and tapirs and sloths. Here is a baby sloth, its mother was eaten by the locals  ::). Amazingly cool animals to play with. Here, Mrs BB about to hold the sloth. Theyre very clingy animals, she found they bite if their tummies are exposed. Not a painful bite mind you.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9484/881646413_8yPmZ-L.jpg)



We did lots of boating, crusing up tributaries, watching birds, and piranha fishing etc. Its a kid's world allright. And they play alone out there in their boats.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9396/881646105_PgXQ6-L.jpg)


They had caught a baby alligator and a turtle to show us.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9397/881646142_ZWk7P-L.jpg)


Our guide was not impressed at all and told them in all seriousness to find an anaconda for the next group of tourists. I thought that was pretty amusing.

Sunrise over the Amazon:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9374/881646060_dJ9jp-L.jpg)


An old guy doing something, I have no idea what, but he was pretty busy.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9418/881646243_xURRE-L.jpg)



This is his house, notice the stilts for the high water.

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9404/881646183_sbtAS-L.jpg)

Some kind of jungle raptor:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9607/881646530_GNkPh-L.jpg)


Thanks for following along!  :thumleft:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Holidays/Holidays/IMG9371/881646032_45SQz-L.jpg)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated May 28, 2010>
Post by: Berm_Rooster on June 01, 2010, 03:04:59 pm
Nice BB! :thumleft:

Good holiday destination?
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated May 28, 2010>
Post by: BlueBull2007 on June 01, 2010, 05:01:20 pm
Great holiday destination, I would say. You need 3-5 weeks to see this country properly.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated May 28, 2010>
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 31, 2013, 04:51:07 am
Time to bump up this thread.

O' What to do in Peroo? ;D Go riding of course!! :ricky:


Here are a few pics from some of my RR's, and some not, but they will give you a riders perspective of Peru.


Around Lima:

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-qxcbjZD/0/L/200912b_003-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-4bbFMb4/0/L/200912b_013-L.jpg)

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(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-t6Cg5CS/0/L/2010-01_021-L.jpg)

Too short for you bike? Heh. Here is how Mrs BB does it on her orange 450 with 3Drink on the right. :evil:
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-KPJfc8K/0/L/2010-01_045-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-PBcr6k3/0/L/2010-01_038-L.jpg)

Topping off a long climb
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-TsgXRdX/0/L/2010-01_061-L.jpg)

Size does count!
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-Hj5M5SV/0/L/2010-01_094-L.jpg)

A cleansing cerveza hits the spot.
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-BrLrKrC/0/L/2010-01_103-L.jpg)

Mrs BB giving it horns
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-FVwxSfp/0/L/2010-01_126-L.jpg)



"Please Help me...."
"Help you?"
"Yes, help me...."
"How?"
"Help me economically..."
"I'm sorry I don't understand - what do you mean help me economically?" :evil6:
"Er...Uhm...Ah...well you see, we chased you so far, and now we don't have enough petrol to get back.."
Cant get away from this no matter how far you ride.  ::)
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-FG5PWnm/0/L/2010-02_006-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-4P4jz86/0/L/2010-02_002-L.jpg)

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(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-5bc9qPC/0/L/2010-02_125-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-VpqwxMd/0/L/2010-02_156-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-ZVWHqdj/0/L/2010-02_166-L.jpg)


Desert riding
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-WmC55Nh/0/L/Enduro_019-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-c2Lq3mh/0/L/Enduro_061-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-KHJTsmd/0/L/Enduro_031-L.jpg)

This pic has not been turned, honest!
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-2Kf2sdw/0/L/Enduro_083-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-vsxS2ZP/0/L/Enduro_100-L.jpg)


Mrs BB & yours truly  8)
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-zXf8pgk/0/L/March%20Small_025-L.jpg)

Our noble steeds having a drink
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-9pkF6RM/0/L/March%20Small_023-L.jpg)

Okay, this pic has been turned. ;D
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-v4pzMz6/0/L/March%20Small_029-L.jpg)


In the Cordillera Blanca - 4,700m above sea level
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-x7KRtJ2/0/L/March%20Small_094-L.jpg)

Gazing up at Huascaran, 6,800m high. The highest we got that day was about 4,950m
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-8Q8mnxb/0/L/March%20Small_163-L.jpg)

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-JGdsqnb/0/L/March%20Small_164-L.jpg)

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(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-7hKPZwR/0/L/March%20Small_267-L.jpg)

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(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-39VLbJF/0/L/Pachapaqui1-L.jpg)

Playing on the local MX track
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(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-dKF9VzR/0/L/zb2a-L.jpg)

Local bikers
(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Kids-Biking/i-Cm6Fzx4/0/L/Bike%20Training051-L.jpg)


More tomorrow if I get the time. Hope Im not going too overboard.  ::)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: zacapa on July 31, 2013, 07:58:19 am
Very nice, keep them pics coming :thumleft:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BLK on July 31, 2013, 08:49:16 am
Great info and pics,thks
 :)
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 31, 2013, 03:46:38 pm
South America is right at the top of my bucket list  :thumleft:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: RobC on July 31, 2013, 03:59:50 pm
Bead breaker... a pick! Or if that does not work the blade from the TLB.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? <updated May 28, 2010>
Post by: SteveD on July 31, 2013, 04:11:19 pm

(http://bluebull2007.smugmug.com/Other/Short-trips/i-89x8D3q/0/L/200912b_016-L.jpg)


BB, I think you need to start using a bit more sunscreen  :ricky:
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BlueBull2007 on July 31, 2013, 05:11:02 pm
BB, I think you need to start using a bit more sunscreen  :ricky:

whahahaahahaha  :imaposer:  :spitcoffee:



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 :biggrin:



Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: novabiker on August 28, 2013, 06:42:09 pm
Hi dogs, I rode my 93 BMW R100GS from Canada to South America a few years ago and it was great.  Best part was getting out of Lima and heading though the mountains to Nazca and on to Cusco, and finally through mountain roads to a little village called Santa Maria and Santa Theresa which is very close to Machu Picchu, which itself is very nice even for someone who doesn't normally go that much for mass-visited arch. sites.
Can pass on my insights on question and answer basis, also I wrote a story on the Machu Picchu part with great pics in Road Bike, if anyone wants me to send by PDF.

Cheers,
Larry
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: Hingsding on August 28, 2013, 08:44:42 pm
Sjoe, pragtige land. Mooi pics. Dankie
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 28, 2013, 10:08:00 pm
Sjoe, pragtige land. Mooi pics. Dankie

Dankie, maar ek mis die land van onse hemel en die diepte van ons see.
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BlueBull2007 on August 28, 2013, 10:10:28 pm
Bead breaker... a pick! Or if that does not work the blade from the TLB.  :imaposer:

Ja I was wondering who would notice that. He proceeded to use the pick to take the tyre off too ;D
Title: Re: So what is Peru like? - Revisited in 2013
Post by: BlueBull2007 on September 14, 2013, 10:37:42 pm
Here is a great article about the jungle city of Iquitos.

http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/travel/iquitos-peru-wet-and-wild.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 (http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/travel/iquitos-peru-wet-and-wild.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

Its an interesting place, but dodgy it is too!