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Title: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 03:11:07 pm
Without any backup nogal?

There are many valid and compelling reasons.

1. He obviously has no licence, and it is against the law.
2. Botswana drivers are some of the worst around.
3. Botswana roads are notoriously dangerous with stray donkeys, goats, and cattle everywhere.
4. Emergency services and hospitals are probably not the best.
5. Carrying his own luggage (full camping kit) and extra fuel increases the risk of a fall significantly.
6. Should anything happen to him, I would be solely to blame, and rightly so.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: JohnB on September 06, 2016, 03:16:57 pm
Ek dink jyt jouself reeds geantwoord.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 03:19:29 pm
I did it anyway.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: woody1 on September 06, 2016, 03:19:45 pm
Dis 'n RIDE REPORT... so seker al klaar gedoen  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: iamgigglz on September 06, 2016, 03:21:27 pm
Ignoring the licence issue for one minute:

I think it has nothing to do with age, but with skill & experience. How are points 2 to 6 any different for an adult?
He could have been riding bad dirt roads with stray animals and traffic for the last five years or so, in which case he'd be fine. If he's only ever ridden to school and back and mucked around at the Rhino Park or whatever then maybe not.

But yeah...the licence would be a deal-breaker for me.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 03:25:17 pm
Getting the bikes prepped. 690, 990, 640 and an XL500s.



We put the bikes on the trailer to get through border without much hassle. Stockpoort is always a breeze.

Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 03:36:41 pm
We barely made the 18h00 cut-off at the border, and stayed the night with a friend in Botswana's Tuli Block.
Had a lekker braai and a few cold ones.

All packed and ready to go when we spotted a leak on the 990's auxiliary tank. Stripped it down, plastic welded it with a soldering iron and cable ties, and off we went.

Until the 640's clutch let go 300 m further. Luckily I remebered reading somewhere that baby oil is a suitable substitute for mineral oil, and the farm manager has a baby!
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Post by: Tuareg on September 06, 2016, 03:59:33 pm
Subscribed.........
It seems I need a grammar lesson  ;)
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: iamgigglz on September 06, 2016, 04:05:57 pm
Pics aren't working for me - am I the only one?
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: JonnyP on September 06, 2016, 04:07:51 pm
No Pictures
Nada
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Post by: Takashi on September 06, 2016, 04:11:53 pm
Pics work for me.
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Post by: Duif on September 06, 2016, 04:16:48 pm
Can't see the pics.
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Post by: TEXC on September 06, 2016, 04:17:39 pm
pics not working for me either.
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Post by: Sputnik080 on September 06, 2016, 04:26:16 pm
.....no pics  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 06, 2016, 04:29:32 pm
pics the same as the 640, broken :deal: :lol8:

Avontier jy is n seun se droom pa :deal: :thumleft:
As hy die bike kan ry hoekom nie? :thumleft:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Oupa Foe-rie on September 06, 2016, 04:32:15 pm
Die TV se buis is geblaas ............. niks beeld nie ............ :(
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Offshore on September 06, 2016, 04:38:29 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: goblin on September 06, 2016, 05:33:49 pm
sub and no pics for me either ...  ???
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 05:53:25 pm
Will try something else with the pics.  ???
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Post by: Duster on September 06, 2016, 06:47:34 pm
Hierdie een wil ek ook klaar kyk, maar ook niks prentjies nie......
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Post by: DirtRebell on September 06, 2016, 06:49:04 pm
Can't see shit, captain
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 07:39:09 pm
Linking to Google Photo is not that successful it seems. I have downloaded it to my PC and uploaded to WD. Everyone should be able to see now.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: luv2ride on September 06, 2016, 08:10:09 pm
I can see pictures :thumleft:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 08:29:34 pm
Planning the route, we wanted to avoid tar at all cost, with only short stretches of it where we had no other way. We planned on going through Mahalapye, take a dirt road shortcut through Kalamare towards Serowe, thereby avoiding the A1 to Palapye. From Serowe through Paje to Mmashoro, from where we would head straight north and look for a place to camp in the bush somewhere.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 08:43:21 pm
While riding on the dirt next to the tar road -still fiddling with the 640's clutch and his GPS, Neil rode into a water drainage ditch, and the bike gave him a prompt dismount. Luckily nothing broke.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 08:51:41 pm
With all the delays, we didn't much distance and did a Wimpy lunch in Mahalapye, where we tried to get the last air out of the 640's clutch system. After another few unproductive hours, we decided to take the A1 and at least try to get to Khama Sanctuary for the night. By the time we got to Palapye, it was already dark, and we checked into Itumela Lodge. Always a great place to stay. Braai.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 09:08:36 pm
With the clutch now sorted (after the bike had stood for three years), the started began acting up. The next morning Neil decided to rip it out and try and fix it. The 990's one fork sprung a leak which we fixed by running a cut piece of water bottle around the shaft. The starter did not do any better after refitting it, and only upon removing the starter gears on the opposite side, was the problem revealed. A whole stretch of teeth were missing. Somewhere in the engine, and hopefully stuck against a filter screen. Ah well. Close her up, google: "how to kickstart a 640", and hope for the best. There was nothing to be done to the XL of course.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 09:22:31 pm
We got going eventually, and while refueling somewhere, a man got out of his car and walked directedly to my son, Nelius. He asked him his age, and got no reply, until one of us answered him. He thought for a while and said: "Oh, okay. So this is his initiation!". This really struck me, and although initiation is not officially part of our culture, this is probably exactly what this whole thing was. This played in my mind the whole trip through.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 09:28:19 pm
On day two the 640 started more and more reluctantly each time. Between Mmashoro and Mokubilo it had to be tow-started. While we were waiting up ahead.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 09:46:24 pm
We arrived at Mokubilo, south of the Makgadikgadi Pans at around 14h00. We had a quick St Louis, refueled, and mounted the bikes for the last stretches to Kubu Island.

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Post by: Bikerboer1973 on September 06, 2016, 09:55:30 pm
Fantasties, ek sou ook die XL gekies het!
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 10:00:58 pm
Only this time the 640 would have none of it. We all tried to kickstart it, and eventually towed it behind the 990. The back wheel just locked up, which sent Neil flying much to the amusement of the small crowd. I also gave it a go, but it became painfully clear that the engine was well and truly fekked. So were we. We eventually commissioned a local to take Neil and his bike with his bakkie to Francis Town, 120km away, where the farm manager from Stockpoort would pick him up. His experience in the bakkie with his two beer laden couriers was hair raising, with a few close-call solid line overtakes, and running out of diesel some of the features.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: RobC on September 06, 2016, 10:02:55 pm
Without any backup nogal?

There are many valid and compelling reasons.

1. He obviously has no licence, and it is against the law.
2. Botswana drivers are some of the worst around.
3. Botswana roads are notoriously dangerous with stray donkeys, goats, and cattle everywhere.
4. Emergency services and hospitals are probably not the best.
5. Carrying his own luggage (full camping kit) and extra fuel increases the risk of a fall significantly.
6. Should anything happen to him, I would be solely to blame, and rightly so.

7. Your insurance cover would be null and void.
I would not do it. ::)

But as you did do it... great! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: WarrenM on September 06, 2016, 10:10:37 pm
Great ride report Gys, looks like we missed a good one  :thumleft:

Regarding you son, he can hold his own on a bike
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 06, 2016, 10:29:19 pm
If that is an XL with a 23" frontwheel then your son had the best bike on the trip :deal: :thumleft:
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Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 10:33:38 pm
Great ride report Gys, looks like we missed a good one  :thumleft:

Regarding you son, he can hold his own on a bike

Thanks Warren! There has to be a next time.
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Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 10:36:40 pm
Without any backup nogal?

There are many valid and compelling reasons.

1. He obviously has no licence, and it is against the law.
2. Botswana drivers are some of the worst around.
3. Botswana roads are notoriously dangerous with stray donkeys, goats, and cattle everywhere.
4. Emergency services and hospitals are probably not the best.
5. Carrying his own luggage (full camping kit) and extra fuel increases the risk of a fall significantly.
6. Should anything happen to him, I would be solely to blame, and rightly so.

7. Your insurance cover would be null and void.
I would not do it. ::)

Don't blame you. Insurance not really an issue on a R10k bike though.

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Title: Re: Re: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 10:37:27 pm
If that is an XL with a 23" frontwheel then your son had the best bike on the trip :deal: :thumleft:
Yes, and definitely.
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Post by: RobC on September 06, 2016, 10:42:56 pm
Without any backup nogal?

There are many valid and compelling reasons.

1. He obviously has no licence, and it is against the law.
2. Botswana drivers are some of the worst around.
3. Botswana roads are notoriously dangerous with stray donkeys, goats, and cattle everywhere.
4. Emergency services and hospitals are probably not the best.
5. Carrying his own luggage (full camping kit) and extra fuel increases the risk of a fall significantly.
6. Should anything happen to him, I would be solely to blame, and rightly so.

7. Your insurance cover would be null and void.
I would not do it. ::)

Don't blame you. Insurance not really an issue on a R10k bike though.

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:thumleft: Please note my admiration in the edit. :deal: :imaposer:
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Post by: Avontier on September 06, 2016, 11:04:41 pm
About the XL. The 23 front is phenomenal. The seat is very comfortable and low enough for him to have both feet on the ground. The 500cc engine has enough power to pass safely, power through difficult patches, and effortlessly travel at 110kmh all week long.

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Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Andre E on September 06, 2016, 11:16:26 pm
My 18 jarige doe trips saam met my vandat hy 15 is, en my jongste wat nou 15 is het seker al 'n 1000km saam met my gedoen.
Ek kan hulle met 'n geruste hart die wereld instuur.
Respek.... 8)

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Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: MegaPix on September 06, 2016, 11:20:10 pm
Awesome.  This trip will have made him a Wilddog for the rest of his life

Wish I could do it with my son
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 08:37:34 am
With Neil kind of sorted, we stubbornly pushed on. We have a mission to complete. We only managed to leave Mokubilo at 16h20, with a good few hours' ride to Kubu still ahead, if we were to get there. Red on the map shows day 1, brown from morning to 16h20, and yellow from there to Kubu.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 09:03:48 am
He started riding the XL when he was still 12. He nagged me to ride it, and I cleverly thought that I could buy a few years by saying that he could ride it if he could start it, -which he managed way earlier than I bargained on! His method includes putting on the side stand, getting it to TDC, and then to jump on the kicker all the way down.
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Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 09:12:12 am
Anyone who's been to Botswana will know about the veterinary control gates on all roads, which sometimes double as police points. My son was briefed to always stay between two adults, and not to take his helmet or goggles off at any of these stops.

From Mokubilo we had to do around 30km of tar before turning onto the dirt again. As luck would have it, there is a control point with police and all, right before the turn-off. I was at the front, and before the officer could say anything, I started asking for directions, and when he pointed the to dirt road, I promptly pulled off, with the other two in tow. Or so I wished. I only looked back a few hundred meters before looking back, but when I did, I was horrified to see my son's bike on its side right in front of the control gate, with the police officer next to him.
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Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 09:23:19 am
He must've nervously stalled it when taking off, forgotten it in gear when kickstarting it, - which pushed it off the sidestand and down! I swung the bike around, picked the bike up, kicked it a few times until it started, handed the bike to my son, waved the friendly officer goodbye again, and off we went. Again. I almost shat my pants.

On the dirt road again, and all is great.
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Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 09:27:35 am
We could now see the expanse of the Pans on the horizon.
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Post by: MegaPix on September 07, 2016, 10:10:20 am
Murphy werk in snaakse maniere.

Karma is duidelik sy suster...  :ricky:
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Post by: ROOI on September 07, 2016, 11:42:02 am
Nice going  :thumleft:
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Post by: Clint_G on September 07, 2016, 12:06:41 pm
That 14 year old kid is going to grow up to be a kid with a learner's license on a 125 before you know it. This way, he'll have the experience to keep himself safe. Awesome job.

I know for a fact that getting my first bike at age 4, and being on two wheels my entire life has made a difference to my safety on the road. At a young age, you fall the snot out of yourself, and learn respect for bikes.

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Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 02:14:00 pm
That 14 year old kid is going to grow up to be a kid with a learner's license on a 125 before you know it. This way, he'll have the experience to keep himself safe. Awesome job.

I know for a fact that getting my first bike at age 4, and being on two wheels my entire life has made a difference to my safety on the road. At a young age, you fall the snot out of yourself, and learn respect for bikes.

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His progression was no different, and I agree with you on the advantages. He started out on a JD Bug at 3, then a PW50, Oset, PW80, YZ85, and now his SX85. We try to do regular rides over weekends in the trust area, and specifically lean towards the technical enduro-type routes. You tend to learn so much easier when you're still young.

Strangely, I don't think I'd want him to commute on a bike in town. With Medupi, came a horde of trucks, buses, Polos and Golfs to Ellisras. Staying right next to the school, he doesn't really need a bike. [I'd rather let him ride a car illegally]
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Post by: Clint_G on September 07, 2016, 04:56:19 pm
At the ripe old age of 16 I folded my MBX 50 in half under an old ladies car when she pulled out on front of me.

My mom sold it for scrap metal, bought me a car, and said she would pay any fines I got. Haha.

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Post by: Morne 1200gs on September 07, 2016, 06:45:12 pm
Father and son special times and memory's forever


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Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 07, 2016, 09:17:47 pm
We chose to ignore the reality that it was more or less impossible for us to reach Kubu before dark. By the time we reached Mmatshumo, South West of the Pans, the sun had almost set, and we still had to get to, -and ride across the Pans to Kubu. True to the nature of trip thus far, the tracks from Mmatshumo to the Pans seemed eager to deal us another round of kicks to the nuts. The hard clay soil tracks crisscrossed  through the veld, with ruts of unpredictable depth filled with powdery fesh-fesh, that also filled the air being kicked up by other vehicles. there was no wind whatsoever, and the clouds of dust remained suspended, seemingly indefinitely. Once your wheels locked onto any of these ruts, it was near impossible to get it out on the move, especially on the heavier 990, which Francois soon found out.
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Post by: Avontier on September 08, 2016, 04:26:21 pm
We eventually got through the fesh fesh and onto the first real Pans. Just in time for a few pics at sunset. We've sort of made it!
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Post by: Dwerg on September 08, 2016, 04:47:10 pm
Mense gaan maar verdeeld wees oor die onderwerp maar toe ek 14 was was my idee van van opwinding om met my linker hand draad te trek. Jou laaitie is gelukkig   :thumleft:
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Post by: zetman on September 08, 2016, 05:03:49 pm
 Ha ha Dwerg  :snorting:

Daai mannetjie is nou n Stofpad biker vir die res van sy lewe goeie werk  Avontier trots op jou  :ricky:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: m0lt3n on September 09, 2016, 07:41:57 am
Nice RR.
I also have an XL which I planned to sell. But it seems perfectly fine for a proper road trip. Did you have to do the roller bearing conversion?
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Post by: Slim Jim on September 09, 2016, 07:44:58 am
Awsome , tell you son he has the coolest bike in the group!
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on September 09, 2016, 01:06:30 pm
Nice RR.
I also have an XL which I planned to sell. But it seems perfectly fine for a proper road trip. Did you have to do the roller bearing conversion?
I didn't, and I doubt that the previous owners did. I got the bike on 19 000km. I plan on doing the timing chain soon.
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Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 09, 2016, 01:41:05 pm
Mense gaan maar verdeeld wees oor die onderwerp maar toe ek 14 was was my idee van van opwinding om met my linker hand draad te trek. Jou laaitie is gelukkig   :thumleft:
Ai tog ek hoop nie klein Avontiertjie lees die RR nie, want dan is dit nou ou Avontier se onaangename joppie om bogenoemde aan hom te verduidelik :eek7:

Jy is evil Dwerg!! :deal: :eek7: :o
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Post by: COLES on September 10, 2016, 08:26:55 am
awesome done and dusted
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 04:37:15 pm
The sun was now gone, and we still had around 35 km to go to get to Kubu Island. The headlight on the XL is little more than a candle's worth. There's probably something wrong with the rectifier or something. The 990 and 690 both have HID lights, which might seem a bit unfair. We never meant to ride in the dark, but we were still very much determined to sleep at Kubu. I did bring two small LED bicycle lights as backup, which I then taped to my son's helmet. The plan was for him to keep next to my back wheel to ride in my bike's light. It worked quite well, and we managed a very good pace. The air was crisp, and the lunar landscape in the bright lights, something very special. Absolute bliss. Indescribable. We could have gone on like this for many hours.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 04:43:20 pm
And then finally, and in a way all too soon, appeared the ghostly figures of the majestic baobabs of Kubu Island. There's just something very strange about this place. Almost spiritual.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:06:27 pm
The sense of achievement and relief was immense. We quickly set camp, and had a braai and a few hot brandies fit for boere royalty. Life is good.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:10:04 pm
We dragged ourselves out of our dens the next morning in time for sunrise.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:20:53 pm
We now had two days' worth of riding ahead of us in one day. We had to get to Stockpoort by tonight. But first, breakfast with improvised salt.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:26:10 pm
We now took a shortcut back to Mokubilo, hugging the shores of the pans to Mosu. What a ride! We couldn't shake the XL in the twisties.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:33:55 pm
The day before, I've noticed a slight oil leak on the engine cover next to the kick starter. A few of the bolts on the cover was loose, which I tightened. It was too late however, and the packing had already been damaged. It now started leaking badly. At Mokubilo we stopped for another quick St Louis, and bought two extra pints of oil.
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:46:32 pm
From here on it was just the hard work that remained. We stopped for fuel only, and pushed on hard. Tar all the way. Our search for the dirt road shortcut gave us nothing, and we just kept our heads down and swung through. The XL's clutch now started slipping as well, which made overtaking difficult, and the oil leak was progressively worsening. I  now had to refill every hour or so. The daylight faded quickly, and with only 70km left to go, I called Neil to meet us at Mahalapye and load Nelius' bike on the bakkie. It was already dark by the the time we got there, and he had done more than 400km for the day already. He would've finished, were it not for the oil leak. Francois and I then pushed through to Stockpoort in the bushveld night, having a ball sans our luggage, and with the potent HIDs slicing through the darkness. Dinner was a bucket load of Botswana beef fillets. This is Life!
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Post by: Avontier on September 10, 2016, 05:49:15 pm
Can you see WALL-E staring back at him?
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Mev Vis Arend on September 10, 2016, 08:35:47 pm
Ek ry saam op die trip.  Jou seun is baie bevoorreg om 'n pa soos jy te h. 
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Post by: Avontier on September 11, 2016, 12:39:53 am
Ek ry saam op die trip.  Jou seun is baie bevoorreg om 'n pa soos jy te h. 
Sjoe, groot woorde. Baie dankie.
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Post by: Oubones on September 11, 2016, 06:45:09 am
Ek ry saam op die trip.  Jou seun is baie bevoorreg om 'n pa soos jy te h. 
Sjoe, groot woorde. Baie dankie.
Groot eer van iemand wat die kompliment kan gee!
En 'n goeie verhouding met jou seun soos jy daar bou is goud werd!
Ek wens meer pa's wil jou voorbeeld volg!
10 uit 10 vir jou maar!
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Post by: wildside on September 15, 2016, 02:00:50 pm
Well done to your son.
 It's always a privilege sharing an awesome adventure with ones children.
Pity about all the bike troubles.
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: MickeyT on September 15, 2016, 02:39:03 pm
Ek ry saam op die trip.  Jou seun is baie bevoorreg om 'n pa soos jy te h. 

Stem 100% saam. 
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Post by: MRK Miller on September 15, 2016, 07:48:03 pm
My seun is nou16. Ons het al n paar kort trippies gewaag. Ek op my klr voor sou iemand voor ons inspring. Hy moet dan aan ry met sy klr met sy ma agter hom op haar klr. Jammer hulle kannie op 16 al leerling lisensie kry nie. Vraag. Kan hulle op 17 jr leerling lisensie kry vir 650 cc. Die probleme opgetel maak hulle net sterker en om voor te bery vir volgende trip. Alles deel van leerskool
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Post by: woody1 on September 16, 2016, 07:09:36 am
Hijack... praat so van lisensies.
My pensioenvretertjie word Januarie 16.
Hy kan eers aansoek doen vir 'n ID wanneer hy 16 is neem ek aan.
Dus kan hy eers aansoek doen vir 'n leerling lisensie NADAT hy sy ID gekry het of kan hy leerling aansoek doen met sy geboorte sertifikaat ?

Wie weet
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Eend on September 16, 2016, 12:39:28 pm
Sounds like you guys had a blast.

My son is now 13 and he has a Honda XR125. I would love to be able to do something similar with him, but just local. We stay in Kuruman in NC and could utilise our terrein to go to Vanzylsrus and back. Just a short trip - me and the little man.

I think it is time to start planning and to get him used to this kind of stuff.

You guys have made me excited to try something like this now!
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Post by: Avontier on September 16, 2016, 06:34:18 pm
We also started with short trips just to get out of town and onto the dirt road to the farm and back. Around 5 km at a time, some 2 years ago. It gave him the necessary experience and confidence to ride with other road users.

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Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Andre E on September 29, 2016, 12:23:12 pm
Woody , hy kan aansoek doen vir sy id so drie maande voor hy 16 word. Dan kan jy solank 'n leerling afspraak boek voor die tyd, so lank die afspraak self na sy verjaardag val.
Met my seun so gemaak.

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Post by: woody1 on September 29, 2016, 12:57:15 pm
Dankie Andre die goeie nuus.  Sal sommer nou werk van maak.
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Post by: MRK Miller on October 02, 2016, 02:06:50 pm
S my Andre is dit dan net tot op 125cc wat hy mag aansoek doen. As so gaan dit nie veel help nie. My mannetjie het 250 off roader en die 650 klr
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Andre E on October 02, 2016, 02:13:30 pm
Ja, net vir 125. Myne ry ook 'n KLR650, maar omdat hy fisies groot is kom hy weg daarmee.

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Post by: 0012 on October 03, 2016, 04:23:11 pm
great RR, dankie vir die saamry    :ricky:
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Post by: EtienneXplore on October 04, 2016, 01:19:36 pm
Wow, this has been such a good read! Those pans are just amazing and your boy is hooked for life!!

Thanks for sharing!

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Title: Re: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: Avontier on October 04, 2016, 01:37:43 pm
Dankie dankie
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Post by: George77 on October 04, 2016, 07:53:31 pm
Dit is PRESIES wat ek wil doen saam met my laaitie. Hy is maar nou eers 4 en sal maar begin met kamp naby aan die huis. Baie nice, forever memories!!!!
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Post by: lj111 on October 04, 2016, 08:38:41 pm
Very nice :thumleft: :thumleft:
Hope the two of you will share many adventures  in the future :ricky:
Great stuff :thumleft:
Title: Re: Why would you take a 14 year old boy to Kubu on his own bike???
Post by: IRISH on October 04, 2016, 10:38:53 pm
A couple of photo memories to cherish there. Well done. That Honda was my first (big) bike in 1979!
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Post by: husky28 on October 05, 2016, 03:19:37 pm
Awesome RR.