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Title: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: RyanI on November 24, 2016, 12:59:51 pm
Very interesting to see MotoGP and WSBK bikes testing at the same time. I am surprised to see how close the times are considering that MotoGP bikes are 100% prototype machines designed for one purpose only and WSBK machines are derivatives (although highly modified) of road bikes.

How can this be?

Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: Groenie on November 24, 2016, 01:35:23 pm
Where did you get this ? Very interesting indeed
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: TheBear on November 24, 2016, 02:17:42 pm
It is one of the "problems" with WSBK.  Those bikes are, for all intends and purposes, racing prototypes.  The only thing standard on the top WSBK bikes are the badge.   It is one of the reasons why they are trying to design rules to bring them closer to standard spec, but they have not succeeded much in the last three years since the effort started.

One of the "problems" with MotoGP is that the teams lower in the pecking order does not get the best and newest equipment.  For instance, Loris Baz is riding a 2015 Ducati and will do so next year.

The above means that the top WSBK bikes is as fast, even faster than the bottom MotoGP bikes.
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: iamgigglz on November 24, 2016, 02:59:24 pm
Yes, the best WSBK bike is up there with the best MotoGP bike. Let's call that an anomaly. If you look at the rest of the field it makes perfect sense to me. The MotoGP crowd is clearly split into two fields with the faster guys (generally) operating in a different universe to the WSBK guys.
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: RyanI on November 24, 2016, 04:29:23 pm
Where did you get this ? Very interesting indeed

www.motorsport.com

I read it every day for F1 and MotoGP. It has the most up to date info.
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: Sithe on November 24, 2016, 05:56:47 pm
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Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: Warren Ellwood on November 25, 2016, 09:14:01 am
And I quote:

Thursday saw World Superbike champion Jonathan Rea lead the timesheets with a 1m 38.721s, which is quicker than Valentino Rossi's pole time at this year's MotoGP.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235381/1/jerez-motogpworldsbk-test-times-thursday.html#VRV4JbQpkqjjMeg5.99

 :o :eek7:
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: RyanI on November 25, 2016, 09:46:51 am
And in yesterdays times, a WSBK bike went faster than the Jerez MotoGP pole time!!

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/rea-outpaces-the-motogp-riders-on-day-two-at-jerez-853466/
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: TheBear on November 25, 2016, 10:06:16 am
And I quote:

Thursday saw World Superbike champion Jonathan Rea lead the timesheets with a 1m 38.721s, which is quicker than Valentino Rossi's pole time at this year's MotoGP.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235381/1/jerez-motogpworldsbk-test-times-thursday.html#VRV4JbQpkqjjMeg5.99

 :o :eek7:

WSBK bikes have become way too fast (opinion of some)

There are two reasons for these shocking times:

-  Rossi's time was set during a very hot spell.  Rea's time was set on a very nice temperate afternoon.
-  MotoGP Michelin tires stink even more than we thought!
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: Cracker on November 25, 2016, 11:32:06 am
Does this mean we're in for another years excitement - watching 2 kawas fight each with an occasional ducati way out front?

No man .......... fook
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: Warren Ellwood on November 25, 2016, 12:14:21 pm
And I quote:

Thursday saw World Superbike champion Jonathan Rea lead the timesheets with a 1m 38.721s, which is quicker than Valentino Rossi's pole time at this year's MotoGP.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235381/1/jerez-motogpworldsbk-test-times-thursday.html#VRV4JbQpkqjjMeg5.99

 :o :eek7:

WSBK bikes have become way too fast (opinion of some)

There are two reasons for these shocking times:

-  Rossi's time was set during a very hot spell.  Rea's time was set on a very nice temperate afternoon.
-  MotoGP Michelin tires stink even more than we thought!

I am sure there are a whole book of reasons Bear, I am just imagining if you are a MotoGP rider and a bit sensitive to a bit of di...... swinging, you gotta be feeling a little put out after that lap  :biggrin:
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: RyanI on November 25, 2016, 12:21:25 pm
And I quote:

Thursday saw World Superbike champion Jonathan Rea lead the timesheets with a 1m 38.721s, which is quicker than Valentino Rossi's pole time at this year's MotoGP.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235381/1/jerez-motogpworldsbk-test-times-thursday.html#VRV4JbQpkqjjMeg5.99

 :o :eek7:

WSBK bikes have become way too fast (opinion of some)

There are two reasons for these shocking times:

-  Rossi's time was set during a very hot spell.  Rea's time was set on a very nice temperate afternoon.
-  MotoGP Michelin tires stink even more than we thought!

I am sure there are a whole book of reasons Bear, I am just imagining if you are a MotoGP rider and a bit sensitive to a bit of di...... swinging, you gotta be felling a little put out after that lap  :biggrin:

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: MotoGP vs WSBK Testing Times: How can it be?
Post by: TheBear on November 25, 2016, 12:57:05 pm
And I quote:

Thursday saw World Superbike champion Jonathan Rea lead the timesheets with a 1m 38.721s, which is quicker than Valentino Rossi's pole time at this year's MotoGP.
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/235381/1/jerez-motogpworldsbk-test-times-thursday.html#VRV4JbQpkqjjMeg5.99

 :o :eek7:

WSBK bikes have become way too fast (opinion of some)

There are two reasons for these shocking times:

-  Rossi's time was set during a very hot spell.  Rea's time was set on a very nice temperate afternoon.
-  MotoGP Michelin tires stink even more than we thought!

I am sure there are a whole book of reasons Bear, I am just imagining if you are a MotoGP rider and a bit sensitive to a bit of di...... swinging, you gotta be feeling a little put out after that lap  :biggrin:

 :laughing4:

I reckon I would ... just a little bit ....   :biggrin: