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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC8 1050 / 1190 / 1290 => Topic started by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 07:30:07 am

Title: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 07:30:07 am
Hey Guys....

I am concidering an 1190 but have some concerns. (I guess there has been many threads like these I know, feel free to post a link?)

My background, 1200 GS And GSA. so that will be my comparisson. I like speed but I am an intermediate rider which have done some courses and some big trips, but only have 4 years in the sadle and no Enduro background.....so I cant wheelie or jump.
But I would love to....


So, my biggest concern is reliability, I have had to do major repairs in the past on my GS's, shaft and oil seal which have each come to a R10k repair bill.....now I see R10k as major and about as big as anything will get...how does this compare to possible costs on an 1190? even with this I never felt that I would not get onto my GS at any time and do a 10000km trip into whatever direction, gravel or tar, how would you feel about getting onto your 1190 tomorrow and doing that?
that was concerns nr 1??

nr2?
Range? how far will you go on a tank doing 140? The GS was sometime a pain to constantly stop for a fillup but manageable...

nr3?
I have done a dustybutt, that was 23hrs in the saddle in one go, and my body was still fine. Also many other 16hr days, am I going to miss my GS? how is the wind protection, body position...?

nr4?
changing the oil on my bike wont take half an hour and cost me less than R500, using liqui moley...comparisson. Every second service I will have done at a dealer. Comparisson? I have never paid more than R2500 for a service either, comparisson.

nr5?
I will be buying second hand, maybe in the R130k price range, whats my chances of buying a dud? and if a dud...see concern nr 1...how bad can it get?

nr6?
Air box dust issue...have anyone paid with his own money for an engine yet? I am not overly concerned with this but would still like feedback. Generally the higher mileage bikes I buy have done some miles and issues like these would have already surfaced and been adressed, thoughts?

nr7?
bearing in mind my grandpa-GS background...I have heard the MP suspension internals have been skimped on in the 1190, that its no where near as good as the suspension on a 990, will I even notice?

nr8?
a totally different discussion this, but how many extras will it need to be touring friendly...spots, wide footpegs, crashbars and pannier racks (I have soft luggage), will RAM mount on handlebar for GPS be fine?, bashplate, light guard. any chain related stuff needed? that heat shield thing and the special air filter I guess....anything else?

Its a lot of money and I stay in Kathu...no dealers near me. So please keep that in mind...

Oh, why would I concider KTM in the first place and not just stay with my GS when it ticks all my boxes...hooligan factor seems awesome. maybe I should stop checking the Riemann and Birch vids.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Nish on November 30, 2016, 07:54:49 am
I hope you are referring to a 1190 R - sounds more like what you require..
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 08:02:50 am
I hope you are referring to a 1190 R - sounds more like what you require..


I did know the difference but forgot it now...THe one has manual and higher suspension and 21 front wheel while other is 'softer'.
I guess when buying comes I will buy whichever deal is best, maybe something with upgraded rims already.

Thats actually another concern, if not the biggest...


NO TUBELESS TYRES!
every time I get excited about concidering a new/different bike this will sort me out quickest. But let me try get over that.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Worsbeer on November 30, 2016, 08:08:11 am
Subscribed!!!!!!

Ek het myne ('n 2014 R) met 2360km op gekoop. Net belly plate as n extra op gehad. Het R1660 betaal vir n jaarlikse olie service. Airbox was mooi skoon met DNA filter van dag 1 af.

My opinie en almal is geregtig op n opinie al is dit nie n goeie een. Ek het n 1800km trip gedoen. Was net teer. Average spoed op die computer was 167. Ek het 12.8km op n liter gekry. Elke 200km gestop vir brandstof. Ek het nie gestop om bene te rek nie, ek het net gestop om brandstof in te gooi. Baie lekker gesit en nie moeg geraak. Ek het wel vir my n touring screen vir R1850 bestel toe ek terug by die huis gekom het. Elke sent werd. Die krag is ongelooflik en as jy op 200 die oor draai, hoor jy die Akro (wat ek opgesit het) en dan trek hy NOG! Ek het gery dat as iets moet breek, moes dit op daardie trip breek, want ek het nog n paar dae warrenty oor gehad

Ek het nog nie ver grond trips gedoen nie en nog net mooi grondpaaie gery. Met die Attacks wat hy op het, het ek nog niks gesukkel nie. Slides deur die draaie loop baie glad en ek is heeltyd in beheer. Die throttle en krag saam laat jou toe om die agterwiel hier langs jou te laat hardloop en maak vinnig jou k@k reg as dit te ver gegaan het. Hier is die suspensie nie n probleem. 100hp is genoeg vir die grond, maar KTM kon maar die krane oop gelos het

Ek het nog nie tegnies gery nie en ek dink dis daar waar dit gaan interesant raak

Hierdie is net my opinie en niemand hoef saam te stem   Lees en gaan aan. Hierdie is nie soos enige fiets wat ek al ooit gery het nie. Alles is mooi uitgesort en werk goed saam. Ek het die 990 ook gehad en afgeskryf. As ek weer moet kies, koop ek weer die 1190. Dis n ongelooflike fiets en niks het nog so n smile op my gesig gesit

Groete
Die Worsbeer


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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Ventana on November 30, 2016, 08:20:43 am
Sub  :ricky:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: iamgigglz on November 30, 2016, 08:34:15 am
1 - The 1190 has 15,000km service intervals so generally speaking a random 10,000km trip in any direction is something the bike will do no problem. Just take chain lube with you...

2 - A quick google shows guys getting 370~380km with mixed riding. You might squeeze 400km out of a tank in ideal conditions.

3 - Only a test ride will tell you what the seating position, seat comfort and wind protection is like for you. Everyone's arm/leg/torso length is a bit different so anecdotal feedback and reviews mean very little.

4 - KTM uses Motorex synthetic oil which isn't cheap. The debate rages on whether it's worth paying for it or using something cheaper. The actual oil change process is dead easy and outlined in the manual. I can't comment on service costs but I'd be willing to bet you'll average more than R2500. Shaft drives are cheaper to maintain but expensive when they eventually fail.

5 - The same questions apply to buying any second hand vehicle. Generally speaking the R is ridden harder than the non-R but that's a broad generalisation. There might be specifics to look out for on the 1190 but I don't know of any aside from the air filter recall.

6 - Check when the air filter recall was done in relation to the current mileage on the bike. It'll give you a good idea of how diligent the owner was with getting it done and what chances there are of damage being done.

7 - I doubt you'll notice. The 1190R's suspension is bigger & better than that on the non-R. I'm pretty sure both are better than the GS though. Again, only a ride will really tell you if you'll notice.

8 - Essential: Crash bars, pannier racks, heat shield, air filter, orange headlight cover
     Nice to have: Spots, wide footpegs,
     Bashplate and headlight guard depend on the kind of riding you're doing.
     RAM's GPS mounts are brilliant. You can mount them above the instruments for a neat & tidy look but a bar mount works well enough.


KTMs are just fun. It's difficult to explain. Just go ride them (both the R and non-R) and you'll see.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on November 30, 2016, 08:51:22 am
NO TUBELESS TYRES!
every time I get excited about concidering a new/different bike this will sort me out quickest. But let me try get over that.

Die 1190s is mos tubeless. :deal:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 09:27:11 am
Thanks Worsbeer, so opinie is ook wat ek wil hoor.

iamgiggles thanks for solid answers.
Its difficult to get a proper test ride in, I test rode the AT over Montagu pass the other day and think I would have done better with my GSA, simply because I felt more comfortable, plus it had crash protection so you dont care for a spill, plus offroad tyres which the AT did not have. What I mean is a test ride is not only difficult to do, but it also takes a lot of riding before you are comfortable and can actually build a good opinion.
I have driven 1190 adv, I was not impressed with lack of low end grunt, but was impressed with how light it was when I lost my balance turning around in tight space (I drove next to the highway)
that range is better than what I got on my GS. good news.

Thanks Chris
I have been looking at 800s for to long. So the only concern there is the soft rims, which is sortable.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on November 30, 2016, 10:19:54 am
I've also only been riding around 4 years and only 18months on a ADV bike and dirt.

Had 1190 for about a year, now have the R version.

R suspension feel better everywhere to me. It is slightly softer in that it has more travel, but it absorbs fucking everything (for me anyway).
R seat is harder but its hard to say whether its less comfortable....It almost feels to me like it fits your ass better, the regular one has more padding though.
The Electronic suspension on the regular one is very cool if you take a pillion wuite often. 2 clicks on the dash to set the Preload for the required load. Thats pretty cool but ultimately not something I do often so yeh.
Wind buffetting for me is far less on the R, even though it has a much lower screen. This will obviously vary rider to rider, but I'm wy happier at speed on my R than I was on my adv.

The airbox thing is a concern. If you can find a bike that has had a UNIFilter setup from very early in it's life you're probably fine though.  I bought my first 1190 with 14k kms on, opened the airbox after having it 2 days and it was full of kak (With a DNA filter!!!)   literally sent the bike back and got my money back from the dealer, reversed the deal.
Do not believe any dealer that tells you "oh they fixed that in 2014/2015/2016" or whatever year model you're looking at. It's not fixed and the DNA filter alone doesn't work.

Otherwise they seem really reliable. Warranty claims have been perfectly smooth (my previous one had a oil leak from the stator cover, and the oil temp sensor failed but that was all replaced smoothly from RAD)

Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on November 30, 2016, 10:24:03 am
Oh ya.

Compared to the GS, the 1190 is a bit more peaky, not quite as happy at low RPM and not quite as torqey down there.   It just feels "naughtier" though if you know what I mean. :biggrin: And when the revs get up there....Its just silly.

I kind of feel like I'm doing something naughty every time I ride mine.  Feels like that much fun shouldn't be allowed. :imaposer:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 10:28:02 am
Thanks Roadhawg.
Okay, so it will have to be an R.
I swapped my GS for a GSA mostly due to the better suspension, I should have remembered that earlier when starting this thread.
I understand how it can feel softer but work better, on the GS I could not pre-load the suspension before hitting a bump, on the GSA it works very well even while the bike is heavier.
I used to pillion a lot, but dont anymore (two babies in home) which is also why I am looking at this.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on November 30, 2016, 12:37:30 pm
Thanks Roadhawg.
Okay, so it will have to be an R.
I swapped my GS for a GSA mostly due to the better suspension, I should have remembered that earlier when starting this thread.
I understand how it can feel softer but work better, on the GS I could not pre-load the suspension before hitting a bump, on the GSA it works very well even while the bike is heavier.
I used to pillion a lot, but dont anymore (two babies in home) which is also why I am looking at this.

Yes tjom kry die AAAAAR. It is a lekka bike and you won`t be sorry. Gooi that unifilter and enjoy. You will not look back!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 12:49:10 pm
The airbox issue, have anoyone had to pay for repairs with their own money yet?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 12:51:20 pm
Oh, and how should the resale of the 1190 be affected now that it is to be discontinued soon?
The 950/990 have been very very good wrt resale, the 1190 do not have the same following though
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: iamgigglz on November 30, 2016, 12:53:20 pm
Oh, and how should the resale of the 1190 be affected now that it is to be discontinued soon?
The 950/990 have been very very good wrt resale, the 1190 do not have the same following though

Yeah with the 1090 and 1290 coming out I'm sure you'll see a few sweet deals on the 1190, especially from the dealerships.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on November 30, 2016, 02:36:46 pm
Oh, and how should the resale of the 1190 be affected now that it is to be discontinued soon?
The 950/990 have been very very good wrt resale, the 1190 do not have the same following though

Yeah with the 1090 and 1290 coming out I'm sure you'll see a few sweet deals on the 1190, especially from the dealerships.

But hopefully it'll gain some legend status when they stop building them  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on November 30, 2016, 02:41:52 pm
Oh, and how should the resale of the 1190 be affected now that it is to be discontinued soon?
The 950/990 have been very very good wrt resale, the 1190 do not have the same following though

Yeah with the 1090 and 1290 coming out I'm sure you'll see a few sweet deals on the 1190, especially from the dealerships.

But hopefully it'll gain some legend status when they stop building them  :biggrin:

Well  the 1190 AAAAR`s power is basically the limit were I enjoy biking to the fullest. I will definitely be keeping mine although the 1290ties are coming!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on November 30, 2016, 03:01:23 pm
Oh, and how should the resale of the 1190 be affected now that it is to be discontinued soon?
The 950/990 have been very very good wrt resale, the 1190 do not have the same following though

Yeah with the 1090 and 1290 coming out I'm sure you'll see a few sweet deals on the 1190, especially from the dealerships.

But hopefully it'll gain some legend status when they stop building them  :biggrin:

Well  the 1190 AAAAR`s power is basically the limit were I enjoy biking to the fullest. I will definitely be keeping mine although the 1290ties are coming!

Yeah, Thats how I feel.  I dont want more power, but I don't want less either. and the 1090 doesn't save enough weight to make a difference.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: AfricaOffroad on November 30, 2016, 04:49:46 pm
I'm sure the 1290R is going to be better than my 2013 1190R.
But I don't think I want to spend another R100k for 10 hp.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on November 30, 2016, 05:19:39 pm
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: luv2ride on November 30, 2016, 05:50:18 pm
Subscibe
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on November 30, 2016, 06:38:37 pm
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy

The low end torque could be better....But, riding it in offroad mode kind of fixes this. It definitely has a fatter bottomw end in offroad mode, but then you do lose a bit of the fizz up top.   I actually quite like it though.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2016, 11:25:16 pm
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy

The low end torque could be better....But, riding it in offroad mode kind of fixes this. It definitely has a fatter bottomw end in offroad mode, but then you do lose a bit of the fizz up top.   I actually quite like it though.
First I hear of this...
So the 100hp offroad mode is not just a power cut but different map suited for more technical riding?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on November 30, 2016, 11:38:01 pm
NO TUBELESS TYRES!
every time I get excited about concidering a new/different bike this will sort me out quickest. But let me try get over that.

Die 1190s is mos tubeless. :deal:

die 1190R ook.

man se huiswerk is maar vrotterig  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on November 30, 2016, 11:41:16 pm
And from a Safety point of view, go for training. Not everyone can handle 150 freakin horsepower  :imaposer:   :imaposer:

Its not a GS  :pot:  Whahahaha  :laughing4:   :laughing4:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 01, 2016, 06:17:59 am
haha ja ja Manic.
ek het destyds hulle redelik opgelees en gevolg, maar toe klink dit soos n bike vol issues.
nou is ek al hoe meer lus vir iets anders en toe lees ek julle thread oor watse issues is daar op 1190....daar sien ek toe nou nie veel behalwe vir klomp strond pratery. so nou begin my brein weer werk en planne maak.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 01, 2016, 08:18:28 am
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy

The low end torque could be better....But, riding it in offroad mode kind of fixes this. It definitely has a fatter bottom end in offroad mode, but then you do lose a bit of the fizz up top.   I actually quite like it though.
First I hear of this...
So the 100hp offroad mode is not just a power cut but different map suited for more technical riding?

Seems like it to me.  The offroad mode seems like a fatter low end and thins out at the top, where the 150hp modes really start taking off at that point.   
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 01, 2016, 08:50:12 am
The KTM will make you smile and you will love it.

One thing that you need to change a bit is your riding style imo as the GS's low down torque is available from very low rpms while the KTM likes to be revved and is happier at a bit higher rpms. But then while its revving the grin starts becoming wider and wider.

Just make sure of the airfilter and services done on the specific bike and about the dust problem. The first 1190's have an extended year warrantee if im recalling correctly.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: manxkipper on December 01, 2016, 09:59:36 am
The offroad and rain modes limit throttle opening to 54% at wide open. I checked on a dynojet pod 300 lcd monitor. A simple way to control horsepower actually.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 01, 2016, 10:06:55 am
The offroad and rain modes limit throttle opening to 54% at wide open. I checked on a dynojet pod 300 lcd monitor. A simple way to control horsepower actually.

You saw nothing on the dynojet that there was extra newtons available in offroad mode?

I thought its to godod to be true!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 01, 2016, 10:21:44 am
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy

I can`t remember on which thread it was but a Bmw guy said that the 1190AAAAR does not have low down torque :spitcoffee:. I definately agree with you that the 1290 has more torque than the 1190AAAAAR but keep in mind it is not like the 1190AAAAAR has nothing down there!!! : What would the difference be at say 2500rpm...12newtons?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on December 01, 2016, 11:10:31 am
it would be wonderful if KTM could release a software upgrade for the 1190 to reduce the power to say 140kW and increase the torque commensurately

The low end torque of the 1290 is simply wonderful - RAD have always given me a 1190 when my 1290 has been in for a service and riding the two bikes properly directly after each other, does show how superior the 1290 motor is - their new uprated 1090 and 1290 should make everybody happy

The low end torque could be better....But, riding it in offroad mode kind of fixes this. It definitely has a fatter bottom end in offroad mode, but then you do lose a bit of the fizz up top.   I actually quite like it though.
First I hear of this...
So the 100hp offroad mode is not just a power cut but different map suited for more technical riding?

Seems like it to me.  The offroad mode seems like a fatter low end and thins out at the top, where the 150hp modes really start taking off at that point.

according to the dynos I have, the off road mode reduces both power and torque - below a variety of dynos
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 01, 2016, 11:16:08 am
Yeah. I don't doubt that. But the bike definitely feels happier to sit at low RPM in offroad mode.  Maybe that makes it feel more torquey, I dunno.



(Out of interest, I assume the 1290 also ha an offroad power setting?)
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on December 01, 2016, 11:22:27 am
Yeah. I don't doubt that. But the bike definitely feels happier to sit at low RPM in offroad mode.  Maybe that makes it feel more torquey, I dunno.



(Out of interest, I assume the 1290 also ha an offroad power setting?)

yes, it's the same as the 1190 IIRC - it has offroad for MTC/ABS, Damping and Drive mode
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 01, 2016, 11:48:55 am
haha ja ja Manic.
ek het destyds hulle redelik opgelees en gevolg, maar toe klink dit soos n bike vol issues.
nou is ek al hoe meer lus vir iets anders en toe lees ek julle thread oor watse issues is daar op 1190....daar sien ek toe nou nie veel behalwe vir klomp strond pratery. so nou begin my brein weer werk en planne maak.

Kort opsomming.

Die 1190 het fokkol kak nie, behalwe die Airbox storie. Otherwise, GEEN KAK.

Jou volgende probleem gaan tyres wees.
As jy daai 150hp elke moment gaan gebruik, gaan jy 2500km sien op n agter tyre.
My rekord was 800km en toe mos ek tyre afgooi.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 01, 2016, 11:50:05 am
The offroad and rain modes limit throttle opening to 54% at wide open. I checked on a dynojet pod 300 lcd monitor. A simple way to control horsepower actually.

So in Offroad mode trek hy soos n GS  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 01, 2016, 12:20:49 pm
haha ja ja Manic.
ek het destyds hulle redelik opgelees en gevolg, maar toe klink dit soos n bike vol issues.
nou is ek al hoe meer lus vir iets anders en toe lees ek julle thread oor watse issues is daar op 1190....daar sien ek toe nou nie veel behalwe vir klomp strond pratery. so nou begin my brein weer werk en planne maak.

Kort opsomming.

Die 1190 het fokkol kak nie, behalwe die Airbox storie. Otherwise, GEEN KAK.

Jou volgende probleem gaan tyres wees.
As jy daai 150hp elke moment gaan gebruik, gaan jy 2500km sien op n agter tyre.
My rekord was 800km en toe mos ek tyre afgooi.

Ek luister.
Als lyk nogal baie belowend. Ek het verseker my opinie oor 1190 in laaste paar weke verander.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 01, 2016, 12:29:22 pm
Ek hou vd GS. Wil bitter graag een he. Ry lekker, handle lekker, ek dink dis n bevange bike.
Het al 2 keer een gaan ry. Hy trek net nie soos die 1190 nie en klaar. Enigste rede hoekom ek nog nie n GS LC gekoop het nie.

As jy 150hp gewoond is, voel enige ding minder as dit soos n scooter wat jy ry.

Gister my 1290 GT rond gejaag heeldag lank, asemrowende power. Jy kan nie 100% throttles gooi nie, met ons see lug tel hy voorwiel op tot in 4de rat under acceleration

KTM se twins deesdae maak insane krag. Ek kan nie wag vd 1290R nie  :biggrin:   :biggrin:
Ek kyk nie na Power op papier nie, gaan ry n Twin, daai 150hp voel soos 250hp vir my  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 01, 2016, 12:41:09 pm
haha ja ja Manic.
ek het destyds hulle redelik opgelees en gevolg, maar toe klink dit soos n bike vol issues.
nou is ek al hoe meer lus vir iets anders en toe lees ek julle thread oor watse issues is daar op 1190....daar sien ek toe nou nie veel behalwe vir klomp strond pratery. so nou begin my brein weer werk en planne maak.

Kort opsomming.

Die 1190 het fokkol kak nie, behalwe die Airbox storie. Otherwise, GEEN KAK.

Jou volgende probleem gaan tyres wees.
As jy daai 150hp elke moment gaan gebruik, gaan jy 2500km sien op n agter tyre.
My rekord was 800km en toe mos ek tyre afgooi.

Ek luister.
Als lyk nogal baie belowend. Ek het verseker my opinie oor 1190 in laaste paar weke verander.

Gaan kry maar `n 1190R met `n geruste hart...jy sal nie `n fout maak nie!! :3some:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 02, 2016, 03:32:44 pm
There is an Adventure and an R. Or adventure and adventure R?

Both have the same ride modes and electronics?
Both have TPMS and tubeless wheels?
The soft rims issue is primarily an issue on the front or on the rear as well? What does the exel upgrade cost roughly?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 02, 2016, 04:05:50 pm
. Or adventure and adventure R?  JA

Both have the same ride modes and electronics?  JA, except R has manual suspension settings
Both have TPMS and tubeless wheels?  JA
The soft rims issue is primarily an issue on the front or on the rear as well? What does the exel upgrade cost roughly? kak baie, and then its tubes.

Dankie  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Amsterdam on December 02, 2016, 05:55:13 pm
m0lt3n - I recently spent 2 months riding a 2010 GSA on a 9000 km trip.  Really liked it for the general touring plus a little bit of dirt road that I used it for.  Now I have bought an 1190 Adventure.  I see that many guys will recommend the 1190R but I suggest you try both the R and non-R versions.  I think if you come from the GS and are not wanting to do too much hardcore offroad that you will enjoy the non-R more.  I certainly do.  I had the R before but prefer the feel that the non-R gives you with the smaller wheels.

Apart from that, reading through your comments I think it is time to just get one and not worry about the small things.  They are really nice bikes and I am sure that you will enjoy it.  The one thing where I think the GS is much better than the KTM is the way you are shielded by the screen.  The buffeting and windnoise on the 1190 is annoying.  But that of course depends on your height as well.  Still trying to get the screen right to get rid of that.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Kraizee on December 03, 2016, 11:41:02 am
There is an Adventure and an R. Or adventure and adventure R?

Both have the same ride modes and electronics?
Both have TPMS and tubeless wheels?
The soft rims issue is primarily an issue on the front or on the rear as well? What does the exel upgrade cost roughly?

Ek het die DID dirt star rim met die ou Speke en hub (RAD het v my gedoen). Bietjie nouer wiel - dink dis die 950 SE rim. Kyk nie terug nie, maar nie super krities nie- ek sal wel voorstel dat jy met n spaar voorste tube ry net vir ingeval en dan later besluit.

Sal wel nie n bike koop of ry wat nie n unifilter in het nie
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 05, 2016, 07:51:56 am
I am convinced to stop stressing the little things and planning to go ahead  :biggrin:

So two things I need still to stop stress on...
I am 450km from the nearest KTM dealer, which is Bloem. SO even if the 1190 is reliable, I am a bit tough on bikes, not because I am good but because I fall so much.
Aaaaand money, timing my sale, getting the best for my bike and getting an 1190 for a good deal.



Either way, I will be calling KTM in Bloem today and ask what they have and if they are willing to trade....
BMW is currently pushing sales and offering huge trades, I will check that also this coming weekend.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Worsbeer on December 05, 2016, 07:57:35 am
Praat met David Sally. Hy is die eienaar van Orange County KTM in Bloemfontein. Hy help baie graag en sal jou kan se of daar dalk ander ouens in jou omgewing is met KTM's en hoe hulle maak. Hy gaan nogal uit sy pad om te help


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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 05, 2016, 08:05:37 am
Praat met David Sally. Hy is die eienaar van Orange County KTM in Bloemfontein. Hy help baie graag en sal jou kan se of daar dalk ander ouens in jou omgewing is met KTM's en hoe hulle maak. Hy gaan nogal uit sy pad om te help


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Thanks Worsbeer.
EK het nogal gelag die naweek vir n BMW man wat my vertel van n man met n 800 wat ook kyk na KTM, maar gehoor het hulle het issues... ek se hom toe alle bikes het issues soos daai 800 sy stearing head bearings en water/petrol pomp issues ook het. mens werk maar daarmee. Hy het maar net aan gegaan op dieselfde trant en gese manne moan maar oor KTM Bloem. Meantime is ek n comeback by sy werkswinkel. leef en laat leef
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 05, 2016, 08:53:28 am
Ek weet nie wat dit is met die manne en KTM nie  :pot:

Ek ry die naweek saam n ou, ons staan op n plek en rook. Hy comment oor hoe die 1190 van my fokkof, maar dis net jammer hulle breek so baie. Ek vertel hom dat hulle nie breek nie, en sy feite is verkeerd. Toe hoor ek by hom al die 1190 se clutch baskets kak en is op strepe vervang deur KTM.

RERIG DUDE? WTF  :imaposer:   :imaposer:   :imaposer:   :imaposer:

Iewers het die manne skrik gevang dat enige KTM  altyd breek en is glo n kak duur bike om te onderhou en service, weet nie waar het die rumor begin nie maar anyway.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: PHILIPKUHN on December 05, 2016, 12:00:59 pm
JAP EK STEM SAAM!! EKT A 950, EKT AL A 1200 GERY. MENS KAN DIE 2 NIE WERKLIK VERGELYK. EK LOVE GRONDPAD EN TECHNICAL STUFF. WANNEER DAAR VROU EN KINNERS BY DIE HUIS WAG, IS DAAR NIE DAAAAAAAE OM TE RY. SOO DIS MY GEDAGTE, WANNEER EK OP MY 950 KLIM, SMILE EK DADELIK, ALMAL HET MY DIT OOK GESE, TOE EK DIT GEKOOP HET. PETROL-VERBRUIK, MAINTANINCE, SWAK-HANDELAAR-DIENS, MENS VERGEET VAN ALLES.

EN DIT IS WAAROOR BIKE RY GAAN.
WANNEER DIE REGTE KTM KOM, KOOP DIT. DAN KAN JY DIT VIR A JAAR-LANK TOETS BESTUUR!!
EK WIL 2018 HERFS OF LENTE NAMIBIA TOE GAAN!!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on December 05, 2016, 01:40:11 pm

Iewers het die manne skrik gevang dat enige KTM  altyd breek en is glo n kak duur bike om te onderhou en service, weet nie waar het die rumor begin nie maar anyway.
what I hear from riders, in our Store, is that the KTM - say 950/990 going back 5 or 10years, was developed to use EVERY available horsepower, and thus they were 'highly strung/race machines/race ready', and that there was a RELATIVELY higher failure rate of some components than say a bike that puts out LESS HP for a given cc....

for example, the 2016 1000cc CRF 1000L Africa Twin puts out 100HP for its 1000cc engine...

10 YEARS ago, KTM was getting 100HP out of the 990, also from roughly 1000cc, yet we know engine technology has leaped forward in 10 years, so the Africa Twin of today may be less 'stressed' as when compared to the KTM 990 of 10 years back.


Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 05, 2016, 03:43:12 pm

Iewers het die manne skrik gevang dat enige KTM  altyd breek en is glo n kak duur bike om te onderhou en service, weet nie waar het die rumor begin nie maar anyway.
what I hear from riders, in our Store, is that the KTM - say 950/990 going back 5 or 10years, was developed to use EVERY available horsepower, and thus they were 'highly strung/race machines/race ready', and that there was a RELATIVELY higher failure rate of some components than say a bike that puts out LESS HP for a given cc....

for example, the 2016 1000cc CRF 1000L Africa Twin puts out 100HP for its 1000cc engine...

10 YEARS ago, KTM was getting 100HP out of the 990, also from roughly 1000cc, yet we know engine technology has leaped forward in 10 years, so the Africa Twin of today may be less 'stressed' as when compared to the KTM 990 of 10 years back.


Cheers
Chris

I think this combined with, or leads to, harsher use of the bike, so the stressed components are then extra stressed when compared to the next bland bike.

but let me call KTM Bloem now!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 05, 2016, 03:53:31 pm
eeeeeeeen geen antwoord. paar keer gebel
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Amsterdam on December 05, 2016, 04:38:27 pm
Don't let that discourage you.  Way too much is made of how nice your dealership is.  The whole thing is you buy what you desire and then you ride it.  The only time that did not work for me was when I bought a Bimota SB6.  That thing was just a little too much of an "enthousiasts" bike.

I also think the biking/motor trade is so fabulously good these days that dealers don't call you back.  Ordered a new Superduke some years ago, went back 3 times to ask where my bike was and every time it came as a surprise to the salesman that I wanted one.  In the end I bought a 690 as they had one on the floor and I could have it the next day.  And I am happy with that choice. 

Tried to order a new 701 recently but the salesman could not be bothered to send me the required paperwork so I could pay the deposit.  Bought an 1190 in the meantime and will just keep my 690 for a bit longer.

And lastly, tried to buy a 4x4 Hilux from Toyota the other day.  They were just going clean it up a bit and call me.  Well, still waiting, hence my conclusion that the motor trade is doing well.

But hang in and persist for the 1190, it is a hoot.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 05, 2016, 04:41:47 pm

But hang in and persist for the 1190, it is a hoot.

True words!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Robslim on December 05, 2016, 06:15:14 pm
My 1190 R 30 000km service cost R 7 800; 45 000km's cost me R 1 700 and R 60 000km service was about R 6000. As manic says, it chows back tyres. Pirelli Scorpions I get 4 500km's if I stretch replacing them. I'm on 63 000km's now and touch wood, no issues yet. fork seals will be done now at R 2 500 quoted cost. My fuel range according to bike computer is 340k's on a tank although I've filled up on "0" fuel range before but it only took 18 liters ??? No regrets so far.... it's a absolute jol


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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 05, 2016, 11:13:10 pm
My 1190 R 30 000km service cost R 7 800; 45 000km's cost me R 1 700 and R 60 000km service was about R 6000. As manic says, it chows back tyres. Pirelli Scorpions I get 4 500km's if I stretch replacing them. I'm on 63 000km's now and touch wood, no issues yet. fork seals will be done now at R 2 500 quoted cost. My fuel range according to bike computer is 340k's on a tank although I've filled up on "0" fuel range before but it only took 18 liters ??? No regrets so far.... it's a absolute jol


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Hey Robslim. Some nice info, can you maybe say what was done extra with the more expensive services? I am guessing they did not include tyres?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 07:31:11 am
My 1190 R 30 000km service cost R 7 800; 45 000km's cost me R 1 700 and R 60 000km service was about R 6000. As manic says, it chows back tyres. Pirelli Scorpions I get 4 500km's if I stretch replacing them. I'm on 63 000km's now and touch wood, no issues yet. fork seals will be done now at R 2 500 quoted cost. My fuel range according to bike computer is 340k's on a tank although I've filled up on "0" fuel range before but it only took 18 liters ??? No regrets so far.... it's a absolute jol


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Hey Robslim. Some nice info, can you maybe say what was done extra with the more expensive services? I am guessing they did not include tyres?

They check the valve clearances every 30k kms so that is quite a lot more labour intensive. Although it isn't rocket science and any competent mechanic could do it, so once out of warranty you aren't tied to KTM.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 06, 2016, 08:39:13 am
I checked some adds on Gumtree so now have some more questions, please hang in there?

On the classifieds there is no bike above 33k km, so officially Robslim above is the 1190 with the highest mileage I know of. And I normally see high milers as a good sign so I am not going to lie, its not comforting.

Anyhow, on classifieds there were a few bargains, the types that one normally stay clear off, but it reminded me I never got a specific answer...
What is the worst case scenario repair if one were to buy a bargain and something is wrong?
a R7800 service is scary compared to GS, the worst to get on a GS is:
clutch, a R12k bill, (done on my bike by previous owner), final drive repair (replace bearing or snap off unit, previous owner and myself) about R10k
and finally crank oil leak is also about R9k (current bike, lots of labour to split bike for repair).
My bikes have been heavily abused, and those are basically as bad as it gets. the engines dont die and I would assume the same for the 1190. But R7800 for a service is flippen close to my worst case.

So in short, if I buy an 2013 1190 with 33000km for R115k, what is the worst that can happen to my wallet if the bike was abused?
what is chain and sprockets? R3k?

Also, how does the 1190 warranty work? normally I couldnt care less, but this time you need to be sure about a Unifilter before you dont care, and most have the other-whaterver-its-called that the dealer prefer.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 09:32:35 am
I checked some adds on Gumtree so now have some more questions, please hang in there?

On the classifieds there is no bike above 33k km, so officially Robslim above is the 1190 with the highest mileage I know of. And I normally see high milers as a good sign so I am not going to lie, its not comforting.

Anyhow, on classifieds there were a few bargains, the types that one normally stay clear off, but it reminded me I never got a specific answer...
What is the worst case scenario repair if one were to buy a bargain and something is wrong?
a R7800 service is scary compared to GS, the worst to get on a GS is:
clutch, a R12k bill, (done on my bike by previous owner), final drive repair (replace bearing or snap off unit, previous owner and myself) about R10k
and finally crank oil leak is also about R9k (current bike, lots of labour to split bike for repair).
My bikes have been heavily abused, and those are basically as bad as it gets. the engines dont die and I would assume the same for the 1190. But R7800 for a service is flippen close to my worst case.

So in short, if I buy an 2013 1190 with 33000km for R115k, what is the worst that can happen to my wallet if the bike was abused?
what is chain and sprockets? R3k?

Also, how does the 1190 warranty work? normally I couldnt care less, but this time you need to be sure about a Unifilter before you dont care, and most have the other-whaterver-its-called that the dealer prefer.

For me, worst case would be a head rebuild because of dust.  I think the R7800 service would pale in comparison to that cost. 

Haven't actually heard of anyone needing an 1190 clutch.  It's a wet clutch so should last much longer than a GS clutch.    Out of warranty, I would find a reliable indy and not use KTM for anything personally. 
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 06, 2016, 09:44:29 am
On the 2013 first models, dust was a BIG issue. KTM did not recognize there was a problem at first, so alot of bikes got dust in the motors.

So unless you know the guy, and you can take his word that he ran a Unifilter from day 1, I would stay clear of the 2013 models  :peepwall:

Mine is also a 2013. I think my Uni went in on around 2000km. I was the first oke to get the Filter. Had to import myself before RAD even got the Import rights on it.

I open the airbox up myself a few times, clean as a whistle  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 06, 2016, 09:49:25 am
You need to get a bike like mine that is for sale  :laughing4:

1000km Service.
7500km Service.
13 000km Service.
18 000km Service.

Its at KTM as we speak to do the 18 000km. Replacing Neck bearings as a caution.

Services are every 15 000km, but my annuals made me service alot more, and I like fresh oil.
Running on Castrol POWER 1 full synthetic from day 1, best oil you can get  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 06, 2016, 11:38:27 am

For me, worst case would be a head rebuild because of dust.  I think the R7800 service would pale in comparison to that cost. 

Haven't actually heard of anyone needing an 1190 clutch.  It's a wet clutch so should last much longer than a GS clutch.    Out of warranty, I would find a reliable indy and not use KTM for anything personally. 

Let me clarify abused...
I have ridden the clutch on my previous bike till I was covered in clutch smoke. 10 minutes later again same story climbing rocks, so much so that the bike was stuck in first, I parked, helped buddies through, got on and it was fine and forgotten. Thats on an air cooled which have dry clutch. The LC have a wet clutch....but it seems its not exactly as good as the old one...
I have seen other guys at the GS trophy doing a slow race that they almost get bored, riding the clutch on an LC wet clutch also till the smoke comes out. And that bike (and another also) had done about 10000km and was already on a second clutch.

Maybe this will explain better why I keep asking about costs. I see an adventure as doing what you shouldnt with the wrong equipment :)
The air cooled clutch is about R12k as bike needs to be split in two to replace it, on LC the clutch is at the front easily accessed and its an R5k job. I will ask a KTM dealer what it should be on an 1190.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 11:58:50 am

For me, worst case would be a head rebuild because of dust.  I think the R7800 service would pale in comparison to that cost. 

Haven't actually heard of anyone needing an 1190 clutch.  It's a wet clutch so should last much longer than a GS clutch.    Out of warranty, I would find a reliable indy and not use KTM for anything personally. 

Let me clarify abused...
I have ridden the clutch on my previous bike till I was covered in clutch smoke. 10 minutes later again same story climbing rocks, so much so that the bike was stuck in first, I parked, helped buddies through, got on and it was fine and forgotten. Thats on an air cooled which have dry clutch. The LC have a wet clutch....but it seems its not exactly as good as the old one...
I have seen other guys at the GS trophy doing a slow race that they almost get bored, riding the clutch on an LC wet clutch also till the smoke comes out. And that bike (and another also) had done about 10000km and was already on a second clutch.

Maybe this will explain better why I keep asking about costs. I see an adventure as doing what you shouldnt with the wrong equipment :)
The air cooled clutch is about R12k as bike needs to be split in two to replace it, on LC the clutch is at the front easily accessed and its an R5k job. I will ask a KTM dealer what it should be on an 1190.

Hell I'd DIY it on the 1190. Throw the bike on its side, open clutch cover and replace the bits :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 06, 2016, 12:08:12 pm
Hehe Roadhawg. I like DIY, but minor things.
Thought I would add the pic of that crankshaft oil leak repair.... The clutch repair would require almost the same labour on air cooled.

And then 200km later the oil leak was back, so the comeback I mentioned earlier, the guy had to redo this job on his own cost/time...
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on December 06, 2016, 12:14:24 pm
I've read many forums specifically on the 1190 and can't recall a clutch failure - main thing is dust without good filtration, but I also haven't read of that many engines needing rebuilds, considering the problem is so widely spread
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 12:17:57 pm
Jayzlike, yeah I dont think i'd attempt that either.   Luckily I have a mate with a bike shop so he's always a call away if I need some real help.

The clutch should be fairly easy on the 1190.  It's on the side, and its a dry sump so technically you shouldn't even lose much oil doing it.

The Valve clearance service is pricey because there's a lot to remove to get access to the heads, especially the front one.  Have a look next time you're next to an 1190. So it's not that hard to do, just time consuming to remove and replace all the bits to get there.   

The motor is basically an evolution of the 950 motor to my knowledge so many of the processes are the same and the 950 is VERY well documented with its quirks and common faults etc.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Rexc-w on December 06, 2016, 12:18:52 pm
OH my greatness!..I will never complain again that I have to remove the tank to clean the air filter.

1190 Clutch plates replacement I would think less than 20minutes. Never heard of one needing replacement though.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 06, 2016, 12:23:06 pm
You can stuff up any clutch on any bike if you try hard enough.

But there was no recall on clutch to clear things up  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on December 06, 2016, 12:34:50 pm
Molt3 ek beginne nou jou fred vermy, die 1190 begin al mooi lyk so baie het ek al gekyk en gelees oor hulle vandat jou fred begin het.
Ek is bang ek ontwikkel n jeuk!!!!! :eek7:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 06, 2016, 12:41:57 pm
Molt3 ek beginne nou jou fred vermy, die 1190 begin al mooi lyk so baie het ek al gekyk en gelees oor hulle vandat jou fred begin het.
Ek is bang ek ontwikkel n jeuk!!!!! :eek7:

Crap vriende op die thread. Manne wil nie verskonings gee om op te hou kyk na 1190 nie. Ek probeer daai verskoning uit krap!

Hoe meer ek lees klink dit of die 1190 ouens die bike vir hulle self wou gehou het. Ek verstaan nie hoekom ek nie al lankal na hulle gekyk het nie.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 06, 2016, 01:10:14 pm
Ok ok man, moenie een koop nie, dis n baie kak bike  :laughing4:

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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Robslim on December 06, 2016, 01:25:36 pm
My 1190 R 30 000km service cost R 7 800; 45 000km's cost me R 1 700 and R 60 000km service was about R 6000. As manic says, it chows back tyres. Pirelli Scorpions I get 4 500km's if I stretch replacing them. I'm on 63 000km's now and touch wood, no issues yet. fork seals will be done now at R 2 500 quoted cost. My fuel range according to bike computer is 340k's on a tank although I've filled up on "0" fuel range before but it only took 18 liters ??? No regrets so far.... it's a absolute jol


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Hey Robslim. Some nice info, can you maybe say what was done extra with the more expensive services? I am guessing they did not include tyres?

Hi - no it did not include tyres, valve clearance was the costly bit, every 15 000km's as mentioned below its apparently quite a time consuming exercise so the labour costs are high. I did chain and sprockets about 2 months ago - R 2 600.00 incl the parts and labour. If and when you decide to buy, you can add on a "major repair/ breakdown warranty/ insurance" if you buy the bike out of warranty for some peace of mind. I took this option, but can't remember offhand who it was through or what it cost me, I'll have to check, I have the policy saved in a folder. Its probably a good thing, but I also can't vouch for the effectiveness of the insurance as fortunately I haven't had to claim. I still go through the dealer for all my services as it gives you the benefit of any manufacturer upgrades which have all been free of charge. Hope this helps. Just buy the damn thing now, you'll never look back


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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 06, 2016, 01:30:36 pm
Hehe Roadhawg. I like DIY, but minor things.
Thought I would add the pic of that crankshaft oil leak repair.... The clutch repair would require almost the same labour on air cooled.

And then 200km later the oil leak was back, so the comeback I mentioned earlier, the guy had to redo this job on his own cost/time...

So om daai bm se clutch te fix is `n moerse job dan. Nie net sommer gou langs die pad se storie nie?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 06, 2016, 01:32:29 pm
Valve clearance is actually every 30 000km.

They started to check at 15 000km to see if the motor got dust sucked in.

If you dont have starting issues, let them do it every 30 000km  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 06, 2016, 01:40:34 pm
Valve clearance is actually every 30 000km.

They started to check at 15 000km to see if the motor got dust sucked in.

If you dont have starting issues, let them do it every 30 000km  :thumleft:

My son and I both bought our bikes new in Jan 2015 and had the unifilter system installed from the word go. His bike has 27500 kays on the clock and mine has 28500. Both of us have not had any problems and do the bikes not struggle at all to start. Valve service is at 30000 kays.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Robslim on December 06, 2016, 01:46:23 pm
Valve clearance is actually every 30 000km.

They started to check at 15 000km to see if the motor got dust sucked in.

If you dont have starting issues, let them do it every 30 000km  :thumleft:

Cool. Will do so - thanks.


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Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 06, 2016, 02:35:16 pm
If I can give feedback.

I called some branches asking for a secondhand R and if they accept trade ins...
PE: they have sold for new 1190's in the last week and have one 2nd hand Adv for 145k. Its a clients bike they are selling so they wont accept trade ins on it. It does not sound special wrt extras either.
Bloemfontein: 2x2014 adv 1190's on the floor. both less than 10000km on, the one is R145k and the other fully kitted is R175k. They will want to see my bike before trading and that also only next year.
Klerksdorp: also no R's 2nd hand in stock, they are requesting pictures of my bike though so seems interested in doing business. They also mention R20k trade assist but I think that will only be on a new(ish) bike.

So all in all, I guess I will have to take the longer slower route, sell my bike privately and then buy on Gumtree. I would prefer to trade though as I dont feel like consistently explaining that the GS is an adv bike and was used as such, its not spotless as seems to be expected.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 02:41:45 pm
R175k for a 2014, even with some extras is pushing it a bit hey Sheesh.  When you could buy a NEW one For R189k in the last couple months because of the new models coming?


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Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 02:49:00 pm
Speak to Shaun Portman at RAD moto as well man.  They were the first okes to realise the UNI was needed and they're a legit Dealer.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 06, 2016, 11:02:55 pm
This one on FB looks great. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ktmadventureriderssa/permalink/1127409710660707/
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 07, 2016, 07:47:08 am
Speak to Shaun Portman at RAD moto as well man.  They were the first okes to realise the UNI was needed and they're a legit Dealer.

They are offering me r75k trade for my 2011 GSA, but they also dont have an R currently and refuse any actual discussion without seeing my bike first.
Which is fair, though I dont understand why a discussion cant go like this...
good condition: R110k.
High mileage: R100k
+Bad condition: R90k
+extras: 95 to R100k

but no, R75k offer if its good condition, while trade value is around R110k (I think)
anyhow, what I have seen is that this wont be a quick swop. I cant dump R20k because I am impatient. And I would like a well kitted 1190 as well, I like extras. :
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Post by: Roadhawg on December 07, 2016, 07:56:15 am
The only extra I'm itching for is a bashplate really. I have a topbox and pipe on mine already though.

So if anyone sees one....
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Post by: m0lt3n on December 07, 2016, 07:57:53 am
This one on FB looks great. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ktmadventureriderssa/permalink/1127409710660707/

Looks good.
I see the 2014 is common at R145k price range and less than 10 000km even at dealers. Then they normally have about R10k worth of extras already fitted.
If I can get a decent price for my bike I will be looking at those.

So dust with the wrong filter is the biggest issue, but how quick is it to check the air box for dust? How much tupperware needs to be removed?
A KTM uses normal allen key tools like a Jap bike right?

Top crashbars, how necessary are they? (I fall a lot)
I guess for the same reason pannier racks will also be a good call.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 07, 2016, 08:04:24 am
To get to airbox you need to remove the tank.
Not a 10min job. I would say if you know your story about 30min.

No allen keys, everything is torx.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 07, 2016, 08:05:35 am
The only extra I'm itching for is a bashplate really. I have a topbox and pipe on mine already though.

So if anyone sees one....

Go buy the KTM bashplate. Its decent! Look at my pic on previous page.

Bite the bullet and go dump that money at KTM  :thumleft:
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Post by: Roadhawg on December 07, 2016, 08:21:03 am
The only extra I'm itching for is a bashplate really. I have a topbox and pipe on mine already though.

So if anyone sees one....

Go buy the KTM bashplate. Its decent! Look at my pic on previous page.

Bite the bullet and go dump that money at KTM  :thumleft:

Kicking myself for missing a Touratech one on for sale here for like R2500 a while ago.  But yeah. I must.


Molt3n, all the tools you need to remove the tank are under the seat.  As manic says, it's not  2in job but it's not rocket science either.  I've done it about 3 or 4 times and you get quicker each time hehe.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 08, 2016, 11:26:49 am
Sooo...I think you guys knew this question was coming...

How well do the S compare to the R offroad?
I know it has 30mm less travel and less ground clearance. But it is still a KTM so how will it compare to my GSA?

The GS to GSA swop I made was for the suspension upgrade, so I need to know if the S will compare to that of the GSA or the GS? I can live with it if it is similar to that of the GSA. I am already used to the tyre sizes...

Or you can just tell me to chill and be patient...
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on December 08, 2016, 11:28:47 am
Vra vir ETS, hy het een gehad en het nou twee LCs.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 08, 2016, 11:29:32 am
The S is like the GS.
The R is like the GSA.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 08, 2016, 11:30:29 am
Maar ek begin al hoe meer skime jy moet n 950 SE koop soos jy ry en wil ry  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 08, 2016, 11:53:18 am
Ek sal dan seker maar moet wag vir n R. Die verskil in suspensie op GS vs GSA is groot, ek wil nie agteruit beweeg nie.

SE gaan nie deug nie.. my beplanning vorder mooi vir n grondpad 2500km in 36hr dustybutt...ek dink nie dit sal pret wees op n SE.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 08, 2016, 11:55:50 am
Ek sal dan seker maar moet wag vir n R. Die verskil in suspensie op GS vs GSA is groot, ek wil nie agteruit beweeg nie.

SE gaan nie deug nie.. my beplanning vorder mooi vir n grondpad 2500km in 36hr dustybutt...ek dink nie dit sal pret wees op n SE.

Jip jy sal die R moet vat!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: 1190 on December 08, 2016, 11:57:49 am
The only extra I'm itching for is a bashplate really. I have a topbox and pipe on mine already though.

So if anyone sees one....

Go buy the KTM bashplate. Its decent! Look at my pic on previous page.

Bite the bullet and go dump that money at KTM  :thumleft:

Kicking myself for missing a Touratech one on for sale here for like R2500 a while ago.  But yeah. I must.


Molt3n, all the tools you need to remove the tank are under the seat.  As manic says, it's not  2in job but it's not rocket science either.  I've done it about 3 or 4 times and you get quicker each time hehe.
Fabman makes them....looks the best imho http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=197864.msg3653337#msg3653337
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 08, 2016, 01:01:42 pm
Ek sal dan seker maar moet wag vir n R. Die verskil in suspensie op GS vs GSA is groot, ek wil nie agteruit beweeg nie.

SE gaan nie deug nie.. my beplanning vorder mooi vir n grondpad 2500km in 36hr dustybutt...ek dink nie dit sal pret wees op n SE.

Jy al enige 1190 bike gery?
Spin gevat en gevoel al?
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Post by: Bundu on December 08, 2016, 04:35:55 pm
Ek sal dan seker maar moet wag vir n R. Die verskil in suspensie op GS vs GSA is groot, ek wil nie agteruit beweeg nie.

SE gaan nie deug nie.. my beplanning vorder mooi vir n grondpad 2500km in 36hr dustybutt...ek dink nie dit sal pret wees op n SE.

Jy al enige 1190 bike gery?
Spin gevat en gevoel al?

ek begin self nou wonder hoekom hy eintlik wil oorskuif van BMW na KTM..... (ek't dalk nie alles raakgelees nie...)
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 08, 2016, 06:19:12 pm
Miskien moet jy bietjie langer spaar en vir jou eerder n 1290 SA koop ;)

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-motorcycles-scooters/milnerton/ktm-1290-super-adventure/1001827756050910035640409

Nog n enetjie....

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-motorcycles-scooters/bloemfontein/ktm-1290-super-adventure-2015/1001845758510910348593709
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Amsterdam on December 08, 2016, 07:25:33 pm
The S is like the GS.
The R is like the GSA.

While this is a nice comparison to show the difference between the S and R I believe the correct comparison is that the S is like the GSA and the R is just has taller suspension and bigger wheels which (in my opinion) negatively affects its road manners.  Get the R if you will really do most of your riding in serious offroad train.  Anything the GSA can do the S will do with ease and with more fun.  The idea as expressed by m0lt3n that going to the S is going backwards from the GSA is not logic in my view.  You will loose that lovely big tank of the GSA, the shaft drive and the wonderful BMW hard boxes.  Everything else is a leap forward.

Now I think it is time to stop debating this and go ride a KTM.  You like, you buy.  You don't like, you stay with what you got and be happy.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 08, 2016, 07:52:44 pm
Amsterdam the comparison of S is like GS wasnt made by me. The point of my question regarding the current bike for sale was exactly to get the the answer you just gave.
I have ridden an S and not an R. I have also ridden an SA and while I would prefer one I cant justify the extra cost at the moment.
My test rides wasnt worth much though which is why I heavily rely on opinions of others.
And you are right again...I should know enough to make a decision now
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 08, 2016, 08:32:43 pm
I went from S to R. 

I nhad the S for about a year, and I loved it.  It was great everywhere, I did a lot of learning on it. With TKC 80s on it was great offroad, even for a noob like me.

I then changed to the R.   Even though I loved the S, I'm not sorry.  The R, for me, doesn't lose much on the road. If you're a really great rider I' sure the big front and taller suspension would impact onroad, but I ride mine exactly the same as I did the S. Harder actually.   And offroad it feels a little easier to me.  It loves jumps haha :biggrin:   I seem to hammer it over speedbumps (aka "Launch Ramps") :biggrin:

The Electronic suspension on the S is very cool though.  Especially for taking pillion or luggage.

I reckon you'll be happy either way.
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Post by: m0lt3n on December 13, 2016, 09:54:39 am
Ek weet ek moet kyk vir die R, maar moet se die gewone Adventure lyk soms baie aantreklik!

(My GSA loop weer, ek sal volgende jaar as pryse nog geval het en ek iron butt gedoen het hom adverteer en R koop...update van my kant af)
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Post by: LDV on December 13, 2016, 11:00:26 am
Klink of jy n stok kort om jou gat te krap.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 13, 2016, 12:24:38 pm
Klink of jy n stok kort om jou gat te krap.

Ek dink hy moet my refund vir al my Internet data wat ek hier gemors het op hom  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: TinusBez on December 16, 2016, 03:01:35 pm
On the 2013 first models, dust was a BIG issue. KTM did not recognize there was a problem at first, so alot of bikes got dust in the motors.

So unless you know the guy, and you can take his word that he ran a Unifilter from day 1, I would stay clear of the 2013 models  :peepwall:

Mine is also a 2013. I think my Uni went in on around 2000km. I was the first oke to get the Filter. Had to import myself before RAD even got the Import rights on it.

I open the airbox up myself a few times, clean as a whistle  :thumleft:

So I got the all clear from swambo and going to view a 2013 1190 Adventure R tomorrow in Springs.

From this entire thread the biggest thing seems to be filter then from a mechanical point of view. Tyre's and so on I'm happy with, suppose until I have to buy them.
How much does a unifilter cost?

She's pretty ugly hey  >:D
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/1006446762_1_644x461_ktm-1190-adventure-r-2013-springs_zps168qvznz.jpg) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/tinbez/media/1006446762_1_644x461_ktm-1190-adventure-r-2013-springs_zps168qvznz.jpg.html)
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Post by: m0lt3n on December 19, 2016, 07:34:07 am
haha I have been eyeing that exact bike on Gumtree as well. Tell us how it is?
A 2013 one with low mileage for R139k iirc. I loved the sticker kit, the best looking R I have seen advertised.

Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: TinusBez on December 19, 2016, 02:42:31 pm
haha I have been eyeing that exact bike on Gumtree as well. Tell us how it is?
A 2013 one with low mileage for R139k iirc. I loved the sticker kit, the best looking R I have seen advertised.

:-) Waiting for finance approval now and it can't come sooner.

They have a 950SE there too and blixem does it sound good but I'll kill myself on that. the 1190 sounds sweet with that acro pipe.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 19, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
haha I have been eyeing that exact bike on Gumtree as well. Tell us how it is?
A 2013 one with low mileage for R139k iirc. I loved the sticker kit, the best looking R I have seen advertised.

:-) Waiting for finance approval now and it can't come sooner.

They have a 950SE there too and blixem does it sound good but I'll kill myself on that. the 1190 sounds sweet with that acro pipe.


Aagh I am jealous.
Enjoys! And post some more pics!
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: 1ougat on December 19, 2016, 03:04:39 pm
Apparently it is the same as for a yacht ... you happy two days of ownership ... the day you buy it and the day you sell it  :lol8:
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Post by: TinusBez on December 19, 2016, 03:22:41 pm
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on December 20, 2016, 02:25:11 am
Did 840km today on mine, riding time 6hours.
Fuel 14.5km per liter.
 What a machine  :thumleft:   :thumleft:
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Post by: 2wdrift on December 20, 2016, 09:07:54 am
On the 2013 first models, dust was a BIG issue. KTM did not recognize there was a problem at first, so alot of bikes got dust in the motors.

So unless you know the guy, and you can take his word that he ran a Unifilter from day 1, I would stay clear of the 2013 models  :peepwall:

Mine is also a 2013. I think my Uni went in on around 2000km. I was the first oke to get the Filter. Had to import myself before RAD even got the Import rights on it.

I open the airbox up myself a few times, clean as a whistle  :thumleft:

So I got the all clear from swambo and going to view a 2013 1190 Adventure R tomorrow in Springs.

From this entire thread the biggest thing seems to be filter then from a mechanical point of view. Tyre's and so on I'm happy with, suppose until I have to buy them.
How much does a unifilter cost?

She's pretty ugly hey  >:D
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/1006446762_1_644x461_ktm-1190-adventure-r-2013-springs_zps168qvznz.jpg) (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/tinbez/media/1006446762_1_644x461_ktm-1190-adventure-r-2013-springs_zps168qvznz.jpg.html)

If it did not have the unifilter from day one you will have had some dirt in the motor... Just beware of that :patch:
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Post by: The TRANSPORTER on December 21, 2016, 09:30:51 am
Gooi pics of the 950 SE also :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: TinusBez on December 22, 2016, 08:49:54 am
Waiting for everything to be finalised and I'll post a pic of the 950 if it is still there.

Not sleeping very well but we're almost there.

Molten apologies for the hijack I only realised now that I should have started my own thread. Counting the hours till this afternoon - the machine is ready for pickup braaaap braaaaap
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 22, 2016, 02:19:59 pm
Waiting for everything to be finalised and I'll post a pic of the 950 if it is still there.

Not sleeping very well but we're almost there.

Molten apologies for the hijack I only realised now that I should have started my own thread. Counting the hours till this afternoon - the machine is ready for pickup braaaap braaaaap

Haha I dont mind at all.
I really liked the look of yours the first time I saw it in the add, so would actually like to see more pics of it.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: TinusBez on December 22, 2016, 05:52:15 pm
Sorry for the delay. First thing first the request for the 950. It is not for sale, it is the owner's bike. Guy in the distance in blue shirt second photo.
This thing is the business

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/950SE_zpsbcrbvrgf.jpg)
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/950SE1_zpsws9jqj6e.jpg)
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Post by: TinusBez on December 22, 2016, 06:25:35 pm
Ladies and Gents I introduce to you my baby. Thousand thoughts went through my head as my wife dove me to The Roost mostly about being super vigilant. Iíve lost friends where people suddenly turn in front of you but the smile on my face when I got home was priceless. I pray for many safe miles, smiles and enjoying the spirit of adventure with like-minded people does not matter what you ride but good jokes on brands will always be made.

I now understand why that back tyre wonít last long. What amazed me the most was when I had to stop at the toll gate and took forever to get my money (havenít figured out a hack yet but have a plan). There was a couple with small kids (about the age of mine) in front of me and the laaitie kept on drawing the attention of his dad pointing at me. The eyes, smile and awe is Iím sure what I felt like at that ageÖand again today. From 130 to 175 in seconds. Scary and exhilarating at the same time.

Iíve been on this site for some time now and thanks for all your support, now I can join in. I bought the bike to spend more time with my dad (also WD) riding the great South African and African vistas.
Hereís to making great friends and even better memories. .

(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0032_zpsfjh6tyon.jpg)
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0030_zpsnxizbsga.jpg)
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0031_zpswbfghefg.jpg)
[img http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0029a_zpsrktoahn3.jpg [/img]http://(http:// http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0035_zpsmexi9h8p.jpg)
(http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah317/tinbez/VIRB0034_zpsjekrrfkh.jpg)
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 22, 2016, 06:32:47 pm
There;s a very well priced S on Facebook 'Bikes For Sale" group.  2015 with low mileage for R139ish.
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Post by: Roadhawg on December 22, 2016, 06:34:53 pm
Sorry, Congrats man!!!

After spending 1100kms on mine on monday, tuesday, wednesday this week, Banging up Lesotho rocky dirt passes and then Canyon carving Golden gate tar roads I am certain that it is the best bike in the world :biggrin:
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Post by: TinusBez on December 22, 2016, 06:39:55 pm
Thanks. No need to apologise.

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Post by: Riaande on December 22, 2016, 07:07:25 pm
Enjoy the early christmas pressy, very nice bike.
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Post by: TinusBez on December 22, 2016, 07:08:03 pm
Thank you

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Post by: 1ougat on December 23, 2016, 08:47:31 am
Tinus
Be save and enjoy her with your dad ... and remember it did not happen if there is no RR  :thumleft:
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Post by: TinusBez on December 23, 2016, 09:22:09 am
Thanks Ougat will do the RR's. Initial ones may be short.
Memories with my dad is important because he is sick and though he's as tough as nails and have a good decade or two in him I've learnt that time does not wait for anybody and it can be taken away too quickly. So whilst I can do it financially and enjoy road trips and keep swambo happy, life is short - eat the cake, buy the bike. 
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Post by: 1ougat on December 23, 2016, 09:25:41 am
Thanks Ougat will do the RR's. Initial ones may be short.
Memories with my dad is important because he is sick and though he's as tough as nails and have a good decade or two in him I've learnt that time does not wait for anybody and it can be taken away too quickly. So whilst I can do it financially and enjoy road trips and keep swambo happy, life is short - eat the cake, buy the bike.

You have it ... you want to sit on the stoep one day and talk about the things you have done ... not the things you wanted to do  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on December 23, 2016, 09:36:35 am
Tinus, that really looks awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Does that sticker kit come from that dealership?
What is your biking background if I may ask?
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Post by: TinusBez on December 23, 2016, 10:23:59 am
I guess the sticker kit comes from the dealer. Find it quite amusing the "roost" being in front of the "R" sounds like Rooster.
They close today perhaps give them a call 011 362 2256 ask for Byron

Biking history started around 13 when my dad and myself drove from Pretoria to PE where my aunt lives and bought two DT 50's previously my cousin's bikes.
Had that for a while and later got a DT 180. Not much biking after school and picked up some 18 years later when my dad bought his GSA (2013). We rode on occasion (mostly tar) over the past few years but I wanted my own.

So I don't have a lot of experience but I'll build it up progressively. I'm still worried about getting on the dirt but from what I've read the suspension is great but if you're reckless you'll crash (guess it is inevitable). I don't plan to do that and take it easy and do an offroad academy at some point in time. Byron (KTM Springs) and what I've read online said offroad you get a huge boost of confidence which partly comes from the machine (suspension) and the rest with experience. Having been on the BM I can confirm this.

I didn't want to settle for the BM and wanted to "see what is out there". This ticked it for me and I considered a lot of things shaft vis-a-vis chain, range, parts, insurance the works.
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Post by: m0lt3n on December 23, 2016, 10:36:05 am
I guess the sticker kit comes from the dealer. Find it quite amusing the "roost" being in front of the "R" sounds like Rooster.
They close today perhaps give them a call 011 362 2256 ask for Byron

Biking history started around 13 when my dad and myself drove from Pretoria to PE where my aunt lives and bought two DT 50's previously my cousin's bikes.
Had that for a while and later got a DT 180. Not much biking after school and picked up some 18 years later when my dad bought his GSA (2013). We rode on occasion (mostly tar) over the past few years but I wanted my own.

So I don't have a lot of experience but I'll build it up progressively. I'm still worried about getting on the dirt but from what I've read the suspension is great but if you're reckless you'll crash (guess it is inevitable). I don't plan to do that and take it easy and do an offroad academy at some point in time. Byron (KTM Springs) and what I've read online said offroad you get a huge boost of confidence which partly comes from the machine (suspension) and the rest with experience. Having been on the BM I can confirm this.

I didn't want to settle for the BM and wanted to "see what is out there". This ticked it for me and I considered a lot of things shaft vis-a-vis chain, range, parts, insurance the works.
Yes, do not underestimate the value of a course, it only needs to save you from one bad fall to have been worth it. Plus the confidence you have after is awesome, I have found difficult technical riding is all about confidence.

Sounds like me, want to try something else now. The decision is a bit tougher for me, I am a bit deeper into the BMW badge in so making a big change like this is difficult, especially as I sit in the middle of nowhere and wont have KTM dealer support. But I my decisions has also been made, now just to have it done with the most money left in the bank or most extras on the new bike hehe.
Oh, maybe do a course, and then join for the sand course here at Witsand, which I hope to do again this year. Would like to check out your bike!

Enjoy man!
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Post by: Roadhawg on December 23, 2016, 10:43:47 am
I did the 1 day ADA course in June I think and it was epic.  A lot of the stuff I already knew, but having somebody to point out the little things you're doing wrong and show you stuff in person really helps.  It helped my confidence hugely.

Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: TinusBez on December 23, 2016, 10:50:21 am
When I rode with my dad I was sold on the BM badge so started buying BM smalls, gloves and so on.

Getting on the KTM with some BMW apparel did feel strange but those judging can fly a kite, I have kit and it works. Not into brands much, if it works for me I'm happy.

Distance can be an issue and I hope you find a great deal, they come up often enough and you can also try asking for one here. You never know who has one stowed in a garage. At KTM Springs I saw a 990 which I didn't see on OLX and immediately turned my interest to that one (cheaper). Turns out it was sold months ago and the owner never picked it up so they are out there.

Witsand - on my to-do list and will PM you when I'm out that side of the country
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Roadhawg on December 23, 2016, 02:28:09 pm
When I rode with my dad I was sold on the BM badge so started buying BM smalls, gloves and so on.

Getting on the KTM with some BMW apparel did feel strange but those judging can fly a kite, I have kit and it works. Not into brands much, if it works for me I'm happy.


Good gear is good gear and I've only heard good things about most of the BMW stuff. I want a pair of those gloves.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on January 09, 2017, 07:53:52 am
Though I would update this thread.

I decided to wait till the 1090 and new 1290 gets released before buying, hoping that more 1190's will be up for sale then I think that is in May maonth.. The 990 and 950 is super popular, with actually a lot of mud being thrown at the 1190 (I got the speach again this weekend), but I can say there realy isnt many 1190's up for sale, arguably less than 990.
I just checked again, 1190 R for preferably less than R150k, for sale since December
Gumtree:
1 option below R150k and another 2 options at around R150k with a lot of extras.
OLX:
1 option for R142k
Automart:
1 which is also on Gumtree.

That is 4 bikes, of which half is probably already sold.
popular bike then...

Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 09, 2017, 08:01:44 am
My 1190R will be for sale when my 1290R arrives.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on January 09, 2017, 08:37:22 am
My 1190R will be for sale when my 1290R arrives.

Sien, dit is hoekom ek moet geduld nou he!

Manic wat is die datum vir die nuwe bikes? is dit Mei maand?
Watse model is joune?
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 09, 2017, 09:06:53 am
My 1190R will be for sale when my 1290R arrives.

Sien, dit is hoekom ek moet geduld nou he!

Manic wat is die datum vir die nuwe bikes? is dit Mei maand?
Watse model is joune?

Ek het geen idee nie. Weet net ek is nr2 in PE vir een.
Gese ek soek die 1290 R Adventure.
Kon my ook nie n prys gee nou al nie.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 09, 2017, 09:08:25 am
Myne is n April 2013 model.

WAT, n UNIFILTER  opgekry het van die begin af  :biggrin:  :thumleft: Ek is die 1ste Eienaar.

Km nou op 20 000km.
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on January 09, 2017, 10:12:09 am
Myne is n April 2013 model.

WAT, n UNIFILTER  opgekry het van die begin af  :biggrin:  :thumleft: Ek is die 1ste Eienaar.

Km nou op 20 000km.

Thanks.
Moet my nou nie vergeet as daai 1290 R sy verskyning maak nie....
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 09, 2017, 10:24:58 am
Ek maak so belowe  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: m0lt3n on January 11, 2017, 12:35:32 pm
My gat jeuk so effe te veel. Ek kry nie meer gewag nie...

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-motorcycles-scooters/gillitts/ktm-1190-adventure-r/1001814570120910438961009

Die man is bietjie negotiable. Die bike is solid gekit, goed soos pannier racks en upper crashbars soek ek nogal so die is n goeie koop.
Maar hy is te duur, die average 2013 bike gaan vir so R115 tot R125k. Maar dan is hulle spotless maar just about selfde kilos en wel paar klein ekstras.
Hy het my fotos gestuur en die bike het paar krappe op, op exhaust ook. Daarby saam sit mense die excell rim op na jy die standaard een gebreek het, so ook die progressives, so hy het paar krappe maar is ook hard gery. so ek sou se so R105k werd sonder ekstras?
en dan se maar daar is so R60k se ekstras op, baie rofweg, so ek halveer waarde daarvan...is dit realisties om hom R135k aan te bied? Ek wil nie eintlik bo R140k gaan vir n 2013 nie.

Ken iemand die bike? (in Durban)
Redeneer ek reg?
Ons praat later dan moet ek hom n offer maak....

O, ek like ekstras en ek mind nie kilos nie. Ek hoop maar die bikes mind ook nie kilos nie, anders gaan ek julle kom vloek hier!
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Bundu on January 11, 2017, 12:51:04 pm
so daai bike is nou uit warranty uit.... maar het darem net 25k km op
weet jy watter air filter hy het? siende dat die ou seker heelwat grond gedoen het
bike word al amper 3 weke adverteer, so R135k klink reasonable, maar mens weet nie hoeveel geduld die ou het nie
weet jy hoekom hy verkoop? gaan hy dalk 1290R roete?
is hy 1st owner?

edit: ek sien DNA filter  ::)
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 11, 2017, 01:01:33 pm
hy het my n lang reply gecopy en paste (wat hy reg gehad het om te stuur, gestuur) oor hoe hy immigreer NZ toe, en dat hy nie sommer dat iemand gaan test ride nie en so.. toe dink ek dadelik scam (en in ingels). maar met verder praat antw hy vrae goed, stuur addisionele fotos van goed soos ek vra en so aan.

en nee, DNA filter (DNA stickers ook op, sug)


Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on January 11, 2017, 06:12:06 pm
Vir my lyk hy baie goed... :thumleft:

Ek sal hom soos jy se R135000 offer maar ek glo nie hy sal dit aanvaar nie,om R15k te val is baie. Dink eerder aan so R140 na R142k offer en kyk 8) maar kan ook verkeerd wees.

Hy is baie goed gekit en als wat nodig is vir opspring en ry en daar lyk niks gemodify ensov  nie en basies standaard met goeie ekstras. :thumleft:

Daardie progressives maak dat daardie 1190 net nog beter is,imo n moet op al die 1190's. As jy een gery het sonder progressives en een met dit sal jy verstaan. :biggrin:

Daars GEEN 1190 wat sag gery is nie,met daai krag en bike kan jy nie anders as om hom te jaag en RY nie,die rims wat vervang is is ook net n pluspunt,daars heelwat 1190's met rims wat gebuig is of kompleet kaput is- selfs Manic sin n keer of wat -vra hom en hy sal saam stem,die tubeless rims kyk jy net vir n gaatjie dan is hul gebuig. ::)

As ek so na die bike kyk sal die persoon ook met al die nodige ekstras wat hy op gesit het ook na sy fiets gekyk het,ook die enjin en dienste gekry het ;)
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 11, 2017, 06:19:16 pm
My gat jeuk so effe te veel. Ek kry nie meer gewag nie...


Nou koop myne sommer nou al. Ek sal maar sonder n bike sit terwyl ek wag vd 1290R  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on January 11, 2017, 06:49:23 pm
My gat jeuk so effe te veel. Ek kry nie meer gewag nie...


Nou koop myne sommer nou al. Ek sal maar sonder n bike sit terwyl ek wag vd 1290R  :thumleft:

ek dink dis 'n beter opsie  :thumleft:

special prys vir molten?  :patch:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Manic on January 11, 2017, 06:53:20 pm
My gat jeuk so effe te veel. Ek kry nie meer gewag nie...


Nou koop myne sommer nou al. Ek sal maar sonder n bike sit terwyl ek wag vd 1290R  :thumleft:

ek dink dis 'n beter opsie  :thumleft:

special prys vir molten?  :patch:

Ek het eintlik R285 000 vir myne gesoek  :imaposer:


Maar as hy wil koop, sal ek hom n mooi deal gee  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Manic on January 11, 2017, 06:54:52 pm
so daai bike is nou uit warranty uit.... maar het darem net 25k km op
weet jy watter air filter hy het? siende dat die ou seker heelwat grond gedoen het
bike word al amper 3 weke adverteer, so R135k klink reasonable, maar mens weet nie hoeveel geduld die ou het nie
weet jy hoekom hy verkoop? gaan hy dalk 1290R roete?
is hy 1st owner?

edit: ek sien DNA filter  ::)

Ek sal eerder nie se wat ek sien dan nie  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Help me out....I am concidering an 1190...
Post by: Bundu on January 11, 2017, 07:02:14 pm

ek dink dis 'n beter opsie  :thumleft:

special prys vir molten?  :patch:

Ek het eintlik R285 000 vir myne gesoek  :imaposer:


Maar as hy wil koop, sal ek hom n mooi deal gee  :biggrin:

ek dink daai is heel reasonable vir die 1190R en 1290GT saam, maar dan moet jy twee GPS ook ingooi in die deal  ;D
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 12, 2017, 07:43:23 am
Vir my lyk hy baie goed... :thumleft:

Ek sal hom soos jy se R135000 offer maar ek glo nie hy sal dit aanvaar nie,om R15k te val is baie. Dink eerder aan so R140 na R142k offer en kyk 8) maar kan ook verkeerd wees.

Hy is baie goed gekit en als wat nodig is vir opspring en ry en daar lyk niks gemodify ensov  nie en basies standaard met goeie ekstras. :thumleft:

Daardie progressives maak dat daardie 1190 net nog beter is,imo n moet op al die 1190's. As jy een gery het sonder progressives en een met dit sal jy verstaan. :biggrin:

Daars GEEN 1190 wat sag gery is nie,met daai krag en bike kan jy nie anders as om hom te jaag en RY nie,die rims wat vervang is is ook net n pluspunt,daars heelwat 1190's met rims wat gebuig is of kompleet kaput is- selfs Manic sin n keer of wat -vra hom en hy sal saam stem,die tubeless rims kyk jy net vir n gaatjie dan is hul gebuig. ::)

As ek so na die bike kyk sal die persoon ook met al die nodige ekstras wat hy op gesit het ook na sy fiets gekyk het,ook die enjin en dienste gekry het ;)

Ook gedink aan presies daai syfers, dat absoluut meeste wat ek sou betaal sou R142k wees.

Enige idee wat kos die progressives upgrade?



Manic, jy het pm..... :peepwall:
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 12, 2017, 11:12:22 am
manic het mooi na my gekyk ek gaan sy bike vat!

super opgewonde!
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Robslim on January 12, 2017, 11:49:24 am
manic het mooi na my gekyk ek gaan sy bike vat!

super opgewonde!
With or without the Akro sticker?


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Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on January 14, 2017, 10:28:27 am
I hope you are referring to a 1190 R - sounds more like what you require..


NO TUBELESS TYRES!
every time I get excited about considering a new/different bike this will sort me out quickest. But let me try get over that.
with the launch of the 1090 later this year (Europe) launch, and in SA in early 2018, I think prices of the 1190 may soften a bit...
the 1090 R may WELL come with tubeless tyres, which ticks one of your major 'boxes', but since you are looking at second hand, then 1190 [probably the way to go...
Concerning fuel, we do not get a lot of request for it, but we sell a 'plug & play' 6L after-market fuel tank (REAR of bike - non-exhaust side), that gives say another 120km range, etc.
see here: http://flyingbrick.co.za/product/ktm-105011901290-camel-tank-ct-1190b/

(it fits the 1050 + 1190 + 1290, and will fit the new 1090, etc...)

Cheers
Chris & Team

Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 16, 2017, 07:24:33 am
It has been done!

I have an R now with road tyres and a GS for the gravel!
Hehe, I need to put some kilos on the R now and see what I need to add or take away, then transfer before selling the GSA, but one thing is sure. I am going to sell my GS with one super heavy heart, but for now I will be postponing that.

I havent had much chance to ride the R yet, Manic delivered it in town on Saturday but I only got back to Kathu on Sunday. Delivered at Philip which have put a lot more kilos on it so far than I have so he can give a better review so far.
The little I have ridden it....its LOUD! but I like. It sounds mental, one of those where people turn around to see what the hell is happening if you gun it down the street. Louder than my Harley. I am going to have a hard time getting used to the nose dive when braking compared to the GS, but I knew about this before buying. I love the nimbleness. Its a lot stronger than I remember it being at low revs, the one I test a year ago felt weak at low revs, this one doesnt so that is awesome. All in all I am very happy!
plus Manic made it look awesome.

Thanks Manic!

I havent even had a chance yet to take many fotos, so one by Manic, and then where I had to clean my garage to get all the bikes in. its a tight squeeze to get them all in.

So far I need pannier racks that will fit over the exhausts and I need the heat shield, will start getting that today. Pannier brackets I see that the ones by Rombux looks awesome and looks like they will fit, but they are more than R5k, I still have to decide if I am willing to oay that much for pannier brackets. I still have to decide whether I need upper crash bars also, anyone feedback?  Once I have the rear sorted I will lay it down and check how effective is the front bars.

Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 16, 2017, 07:25:46 am
tight fit
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on January 16, 2017, 08:16:28 am


Quote from: m0lt3n on Today at 07:25:46 am (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=202701.msg3753834#msg3753834)
tight fit


a tight fit? Yes, but not a b-a-d problem to have...!

Congrats on the addition to your stable!
Chris & Team
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Bundu on January 16, 2017, 10:47:55 am
 :thumleft:  Congrats and Enjoy!
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on January 16, 2017, 10:55:49 am
Ja man baie geluk, jy het nie `n fout gemaak nie!!!
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Roadhawg on January 16, 2017, 10:56:30 am
Nice one! Grats!

Those twin Akras much sound cool.

I'm having thoughts of fiddling with my exhaust, or swapping my Akra for something else.

Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Manic on January 16, 2017, 11:18:17 am
Great stuff  :biggrin:   :thumleft: 

Nou is jou garage vol en myne is leeg  :'(  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 16, 2017, 11:18:47 am
dankie dankie.
ek moes koop voor Manic my daai rekening stuur vir sy data gebruik.

versekering nou gedoen. R600pm met r25k ekstras gespesifiseer
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Roadhawg on January 16, 2017, 10:13:52 pm
Its a lot stronger than I remember it being at low revs, the one I test a year ago felt weak at low revs, this one doesnt so that is awesome. All in all I am very happy!
plus Manic made it look awesome.


Does it still have the stock gearing?  Because gearing it a bit shorter makes quite a nice difference like that.
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Draadwerk on January 16, 2017, 10:20:24 pm
Baie baie geluk. Ry veilig en geniet haar. Was die Bike net weer asb....dit was afterall klein kortgat Mandy sin gewees
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Manic on January 16, 2017, 10:37:51 pm
Its a lot stronger than I remember it being at low revs, the one I test a year ago felt weak at low revs, this one doesnt so that is awesome. All in all I am very happy!
plus Manic made it look awesome.


Does it still have the stock gearing?  Because gearing it a bit shorter makes quite a nice difference like that.

Stock gearing
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on January 16, 2017, 11:03:20 pm
Baie geluk Molt, stunning klompie bikes wat jy het. :thumleft:
As dit my klomp was het ek daai cruiser geswaai en die GSA gebruik vir cruise. ;) :deal:
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 07:10:46 am
Baie geluk Molt, stunning klompie bikes wat jy het. :thumleft:
As dit my klomp was het ek daai cruiser geswaai en die GSA gebruik vir cruise. ;) :deal:

ek het gewag vir daai.
Dit maar n geval dat die bikes sal kom en gaan maar die Harley sal daar bly. Dit soos daai ou V8 wat jy by jou pa of so oor gekoop het, ageless. (maar ook, hy minder as helfte werd as een van ander)

Maar eerlik wens ek ek kan die GSA ook hou. As ek nou bonus gekry het en verlof kon vat het ek more op hom geklim en Kairo toe geskiet, die KTM gaan nog baie aandag en ekstras kort om daar te wees, en dan nog vir my moet wys hy kan ook.

Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 18, 2017, 07:13:21 pm
Baie geluk Martin

She sure is a looker and love the twin pipes! Wishing you many safe miles.
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Kraizee on January 19, 2017, 07:49:56 pm
Baie geluk met jou nuwe yster. Klomp veilige myle. Daai deng  gaan jy baie geniet. Ten opsigte crash bars, ek het Rumbux voor en agter. Na n oopsie by gerotek op die teer het dit hulself betaal, n paar keer. Baie goeie produk. Ek stel voor jy kontak Deon by Rumbux om jou te help met die twee pyp setup - een deeglike val en die crashbars is betaal  :ricky:

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s550/steyndelport/IMG_5057_zps0hisozar.jpg)

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s550/steyndelport/IMG_5056_zpsmeqjegy9.jpg)

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s550/steyndelport/IMG_5055_zpsgjfkdh3m.jpg)
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 20, 2017, 05:03:20 am
Dankie vir die deel.

Op Deon se website gaan kyk, hulle is nie goedkoop nie maar die moeite werd, dan weer niks van bike ry is goedkoop nie. > R10k

http://www.rumbux.co.za/ktm%20product%20pages/1190advrenduranceupperprotectionbars.html
http://www.rumbux.co.za/ktm%20product%20pages/1190advrendurancerearprotectionprotectionbars.html

Bikegear is goedkoper maar ek sien nie die bars vir agter nie. R3k
http://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-upper-crashbar-for-ktm-10501190-oem-crashbar-orange/

Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 20, 2017, 07:28:17 am
Dankie vir die deel.

Op Deon se website gaan kyk, hulle is nie goedkoop nie maar die moeite werd, dan weer niks van bike ry is goedkoop nie. > R10k

http://www.rumbux.co.za/ktm%20product%20pages/1190advrenduranceupperprotectionbars.html
http://www.rumbux.co.za/ktm%20product%20pages/1190advrendurancerearprotectionprotectionbars.html

Bikegear is goedkoper maar ek sien nie die bars vir agter nie. R3k
http://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-upper-crashbar-for-ktm-10501190-oem-crashbar-orange/



Dankie vir die info Kraizee en Tinus.

Met daai fotos het ek ook nou maar besluit om te kry, moet net nog so paar keer eers weer pay voor kan koop.
EK self sal die SW motech vat, maar ek weet die Rombux sal heelwat sterker wees, maar sterker meen ook swaarder en ek like nie so baie hoe hulle lyk nie en dit ook vir my asof hulle n dowwer oranje kleur het. Maar ek sal nog sien.
EK like nie dat die bars nerens hoog n support op bike het nie, maar dit is nou maar so.

Tinus onthou om pryse by Flyingbrick ook te kry, hulle so effens goedkoper as Bikegear op baie goed en ek dink het dalk groter verskeidenheid.

Ai ek wil nie in die gat val van ekstras en ekstras koop nie, maar daar is min goed wat man so negatief maak as om te val en dan actual groot skade te he. ek verkies dat my grootste worry na n val eerder is hoe om die crashbars weer die regte kleur te spray.
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Worsbeer on January 20, 2017, 07:37:06 am
Praat met David by KTM Bloemfontein. Ek het R3500 betaal vir my upper crashbars voor. Dalk kan hy vir jou beter pryse kry omdat hy n dealer is. Is ook Rumbux


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Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 20, 2017, 10:19:02 am
my grootste worry na n val eerder is hoe om die crashbars weer die regte kleur te spray.

Nes jy daar se.
Ek se vir myself as ek val, val net na links, kant waar die exhaust nie is nie. As ek nie anders kan nie, het ek in elk geval net een been en arm nodig.

In jou geval moet jy maar regop bly en eerder daai lekker 21" in iets vasry :-)

Hopelik hoef ons nooit so iets te doen nie maar die lewe gebeur so ek verkies om voorbereid te wees. Moet ook maar 'n paar payday's wag eers. Mors met planne maar nou ja.
My garmin het gekom so hy's by dealer nou, gaan sommer na daai klein smiley voor en rear undertray replacement treatment kry. Vorige ou het die plastic gekraak.
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 20, 2017, 10:26:34 am
ai, ek moet garmin oor sit van die ou bike af. Kry net nie tyd vir als nie.

Maar nou dat jy dit noem, al my valle is juis aan regterkant altyd. Vorige eienaar se meeste valle was ook. So...uhm....good luck with that :)
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 21, 2017, 05:49:36 am
versekering nou gedoen. R600pm met r25k ekstras gespesifiseer

Is dit jou premie vir die bike? By wie is jy verseker?
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 22, 2017, 02:15:07 pm
versekering nou gedoen. R600pm met r25k ekstras gespesifiseer

Is dit jou premie vir die bike? By wie is jy verseker?
jap. miway. hulle gee ekstra afslag hoe meer goed by hulle is. ek heel vrede by hulle.

ek het wel vergeet om bike te vat vir inspeksie toe moes ek die nwk trip doen sonder versekering. gelukig als goed gegaan
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 22, 2017, 03:12:01 pm
Myne is dubbel dit. Ek gaan more bietjie bel

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Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Bundu on January 22, 2017, 04:16:06 pm
Myne is dubbel dit. Ek gaan more bietjie bel

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as jy kan, kry ook quotes waar jy jou excess opstoot - ek betaal R410 MAAAAAR ek het 'n R15 000 excess  :eek7: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: TinusBez on January 22, 2017, 04:20:31 pm
My excess is weer nil. Ou tannie my vrou fender bender ongeluk gehad. Nie n sent uitgehaal nie en dis selfde met my bike goed.

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Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: Bundu on January 22, 2017, 04:22:55 pm
My excess is weer nil. Ou tannie my vrou fender bender ongeluk gehad. Nie n sent uitgehaal nie en dis selfde met my bike goed.

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ja, die ding is ek eis nooit nie - klein goedjies sal ek self betaal - ek soek assuransie vir 'n duur kar wat ek dalk tref, bike afgeskryf word, of gesteel word
Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 23, 2017, 08:45:37 am
I just checked my access. 10% of claim at a minimum of R2k. Not exactly optimal. On my car access is R5k and on GSA it is R2500.

I dont actually want a zero access, I hope to claim as little as possible so dont want to be paying unnecessarily high premiums for no gain. all within reason though.


Title: Re: Help me out, I am concidering an 1190... (doing shopping)
Post by: m0lt3n on January 23, 2017, 08:47:04 am
Guys, please check my other thread? I have some fixing to do, so am hoping for some wallet friendly permanent solutions...

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=204555.0