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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC8 1050 / 1190 / 1290 => Topic started by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 07:29:21 am

Title: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 07:29:21 am
with all my other bikes I am sad that I never told their story, so let me not be lazy this time and tell her story as it unfolds!

So, I have always been pretty anti-KTM. Reason being that I thought they were unreliable and just not meant for what I do with them. Then I rode a 950 on an MX track and I got it. the light went on, they are just so much better than my GSA.
But then, a 950 vs GSA on MX track...its supposed to be, but lets not allow facts to scew a nice story.

But I like gadgets, so was always looking at the 1190. ANd after seeing that the 1190 issues thread on the forum is fairly short, I realised it cant be as bad as I thought. after reading it and srealizing its full of bantering, I felt better.

SO I got my thoughts straight in this thread...
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=202701.0
and also finding a bike there. I now have my own temperamental lady. or spirited flerrie. Verdict is still out...

So arrangements were made, payments made and delivery done. except that I was not home and it had to be delivered at a friends house. Thanks again Philip!
And up to now, I still have to buy browny points from my wife to spend some time on my bike! I have still ridden less than Philip on my own bike, 4 days later  :'(

Anyhow, some pics taken by manic the previous owner. and then my own.
I had to reshuffle my garage a bit to have the three bikes fit...

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 07:49:37 am
So now I have an R with road tyres, and a GSA ready for pretty tough offroad. I need to get to know my KTM better, plus I have the tyres and also I have been wanting to do it....next weekend I intend to do an ironbutt ride! it will be tar, 2500km in 36hrs.

I think the bike is pretty much fine for it. Maybe could have done with a heat shield as it does have the infamous heat emition from rear cylinder. but for the most part its ready.

I bought the house with money I took out of my house bond, in other words I am losing more than a thousand a month in interest while I am keeping the GSA so I need to start getting it ready to be sold. My brother will be joining me on the ironbutt ride on the GSA though so after that I need to transfer what I can and sell what I can...

I want to see if I can have the topbox fit on the 1190, I am not to fond of the khaki colour bag, wish it was black.
I have a steering damper on the GSA, I have not checked but I understand the 1190 has a factory fitted cheapie. Removing that and fitting my scott will increase the turning angle possible on the 1190. This I really want to do as I have seen how KTMs suffer on off road courses where your turning circle is tested to the limits. Also a big reason where I always thougth the GS is better with very technical riding for people with normal skill sets.
GPS lockable bracket also needs to be transferred and maybe hardwired.
Fit tooltube to 1190 somewhere so that I can carry air cannister to inflate tyres.

Now, on the 1190. I think its a looker and I would like to keep it that way. Be my pride and joy while being used. So I will be giving a lot of consideration as to the look of extras when I buy.
The 1190 needs pannier racks. I fall a lot and those are some expensive exhausts! Problem is I dont know what to get that will look nicest.
Heat shield off course, also would like it to look OEM.
the big foot must be from India, it needs to be made bigger or replaced, we have real sand here.
still deciding on the upper crash bars, if I get I will probably get the SWMotech ones, they look the nicest to me, or rather the orange looks like KTM orange.
Knobbleys. Already have my eye on a set of Anlas, just waiting for pay day. But I am concidering an MX front tyre, still deciding.
Heated grips, I see there is oxford and another set from bikegear. dont know which is best or most unobtrusive. R1150 vs R850.
Tank bag with quick release. I love the practicality possible from a quick release tankbag. I will probably get this one http://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-quick-lock-evo-gs-tankbag/ just need to be sure it will fit with the contour of my tank.

Thats it for now, please feel free to give advice or inputs.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on January 17, 2017, 08:17:07 am
I've got that quick lock tank bag  :thumleft:
Works very well on the 1290 tank and is massive
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 08:30:57 am
I've got that quick lock tank bag  :thumleft:
Works very well on the 1290 tank and is massive

You cant post a pic please?
I had something similar on a previous GS. Loved it. Can take water bottles (I dont like camelback) and food on long trips. Very practical
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Scalpel on January 17, 2017, 09:58:59 am
I love the look with the twin exhausts. However I don't think standard pannier frames will fit with this modification? The exhausts just look further away from the bike than what the standard exhaust does.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: J-dog on January 17, 2017, 10:27:00 am
Love the twin pipes!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on January 17, 2017, 11:10:58 am
I've got that quick lock tank bag  :thumleft:
Works very well on the 1290 tank and is massive

You cant post a pic please?
I had something similar on a previous GS. Loved it. Can take water bottles (I dont like camelback) and food on long trips. Very practical

here are some pics I've previously taken - in all pics the bag is not extended - when extended, the top raises about 10cm

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on January 17, 2017, 11:39:14 am
Steek jy jou skoonma daar binne in weg  :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on January 17, 2017, 11:52:36 am
Steek jy jou skoonma daar binne in weg  :imaposer:

 :biggrin: ons nie sulke kortgatte nie  ;) ;D
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 17, 2017, 12:26:44 pm
This is my reference on that tank bag. I had one (I think it is the same, just older) on my previous GS. But I just had a fright seeing it on the 1290 where it looks massive. On the GS it did not seem as oversized.
I will have to think it over a bit. But will probably still buy it, I dont like the smaller ones, it does not fit the contour of the bike at all.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on January 17, 2017, 12:44:25 pm
you have to remember that my tank bag will look even bigger on the 1190, seeing that the 1190 tank is quite a bit smaller - the 1290 tank area is quite bulky
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Moondog on January 18, 2017, 12:45:14 am
I use a much smaller version of the same make and mounting. Love it!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 18, 2017, 07:22:52 am
I use a much smaller version of the same make and mounting. Love it!
please post a pic if you can?
I think the one Bundu's bike is bigger than what I had, and that was already on the limit.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on January 18, 2017, 07:19:56 pm
Lekker man, dis 'n awesome bike. Daai acceleration is addictive, seker hoekom 'n ou nie baie uit die agter tyre uitkry nie maar 'n prys wat ek bereid is om te betaal.

Geniet haar en dink dit was Manic wat hier op een van die threads vir my gese het ook farkles "#ry die fkn ding".

Tinus
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 19, 2017, 06:59:35 am
Lekker man, dis 'n awesome bike. Daai acceleration is addictive, seker hoekom 'n ou nie baie uit die agter tyre uitkry nie maar 'n prys wat ek bereid is om te betaal.

Geniet haar en dink dit was Manic wat hier op een van die threads vir my gese het ook farkles "#ry die fkn ding".

Tinus

Gister uiteindelik bietjie meer rond gery, sien uit na die naweek.

Man maar hy ry lekker!!!

Farkles....jaaa uhm, hy gaan moet die offroad ding doen. Dit terwyl ek meer wil as vernuf het, so val sal daar geval word.
Pannier racks amper oppad, dan knobblies!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on January 19, 2017, 07:07:01 am
Jy sal  verbaas wees hoe nimble daai fiets is. Het single track gery  met versteekte rotse. Ek was en is nog steeds baie impressed maar ek stem n ou wil na jou goed kyk en als doen wat sal help in die feval van n val. Geniet die bike. Ek gaan naweek v 3de Feb Oppiplaas skills naweek toe en kan nie wag nie

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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Moondog on January 19, 2017, 07:48:44 am
I use a much smaller version of the same make and mounting. Love it!
please post a pic if you can?
I think the one Bundu's bike is bigger than what I had, and that was already on the limit.

Sure ....
The mounting uses quite a lot of space inside but i only realy use it for keys, remote, cell, etc. So plenty of space. It is also expandable.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 23, 2017, 08:08:16 am
So this weekend we did a nice trip. I had a friend visit wich rode the GSA and we had a great time. Both of us was super impressed with the 1190.

Review after the weekend, mostly normal gravel roads, some 2spoor and a little sand.
1190 felt a lot more unstable than the tank of a GSA, but the difference is its okay, on the GSA where you would have to change pants the same situation on the 1190 is fun. So I am very happy.

I also worked with his handlebar bag and have decided to rather opt for that than a tank bag, that is if I dont move the stearing damper. It seems that if I increase the range of motion of the handlebars the handguards will connect with the windscreen.
I was also very happy with the wind protection, not to bad at all!.

Here is the route we rode. Half of it new to me. Great fun.
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=132045882842456183

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 23, 2017, 08:38:43 am
Coming weekend we will be doing the iron butt. That is if my stepfather can sort a crack in the rim of his Super Tenere, he found it over the weekend. I did notice two slight smileys on the 1190, but nothing to worry about (I think)

Bike prep needs to continue, starting with a wash.
So KTM drama has started, I will document my fixes and issues here. Hopefully sorting the stuff out permanently as it goes.

I lost an indicator bulp. How the hell that happens I dont know! Is there better aftermarket options? Anyone know what a KTM replacement will cost roughly?

Also I kept hearing this clap sound at the front, thought its the big windscreen but then found this cover broken where the hooter attaches to. I did a quick fix but think it will probably be permanent.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on January 26, 2017, 01:16:29 pm
Ek sal maar n ogie op jou hou van hierdie kant af  :thumleft:

Oor daai flikkers, is dit 'n standaard tipe mounting of so weird gatkant om bracket soos op my Honda? As dit normale tipe is kan jy mos by plek soos Tracmac of Banggood kyk vir 'n vervanging
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on January 26, 2017, 01:23:28 pm
Net vining gekyk, maar kan jy dalk iets soos hierdie daar vaskry?

http://www.banggood.com/12V-Universal-Motorcycle-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Light-Amber-Smoke-Lens-p-987585.html?rmmds=category
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 26, 2017, 01:53:52 pm
Thanks Willie

So, the rim on the super tenere has been sorted for the coming weekend. Welded and true'd again. Fortunately my stepdad is quite handy (did not do welding himself though) and I am hoping he can give some attention tomorrow to my spotlights setup as well. (currently the indicator cant be seen) I have tomorrow off to sort out as many issues as I can. Also need to buy chain lube, I have chain wax but will see what other options I have.

I am not going to have time to fix my indicator before the ride, but hoping it will last anyhow (its still working). The lack of feedback on my other thread regarding the indicator I take it I caused this. It could only have been by the serious roost I got from the front. I was literally showered with rocks from the front. I will probably have to replace the hooter attachment plastic as well.

I noticed the new generation indicators look a lot better than mine, so here is to hoping the replacement is a new one then I will just ķpdate the other as well sometime.
I looked at a new R yesterday, the indicators and reflectors seem facelifted. Also, my bike is software version 3.10 while the latest is 3.23 so I would like it updated sometime. Then also my bike had a 'damping'feature I could set to my favourites menu. THe new one didnt. anyone know what it actually is?

We also changed suspension settings yesterday. everything was very hard. I set it to normal now but still find it hard. WIll stick with it though. I weigh 90kg.

I have my first smiley as well, will post some pics later on that....
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on January 26, 2017, 01:57:11 pm
Damping is elektroniese suspensie, wat die R nie het nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on January 26, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
I think the newer indicators are better

My 2014 would have one rear fog up every time I washed the thing and it would take ages to dry out.  The new ones seem to be sealed much better.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on January 26, 2017, 02:01:52 pm
I just washed my 1290 GT and my right rear also has signs of water in it now.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 26, 2017, 03:38:00 pm
I think the newer indicators are better

My 2014 would have one rear fog up every time I washed the thing and it would take ages to dry out.  The new ones seem to be sealed much better.

Agreeds, it looks like they are sealed a lot better. kind of wrap-around rubber. I will put a pic up when I install.

Damping is elektroniese suspensie, wat die R nie het nie.

reg so, het vir my ook boggerol sin gemaak.

nou moet ek nog net verstaan hoe verstel mens damping op een vurk en kompressie op ander vurk en dan moet die twee vurke nou weet wat jy op ander een gemaak het? ek sien geen konneksies tussen die twee nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on January 26, 2017, 03:44:43 pm
Lees die Manual  :thumleft:
Hulle tune jou als daarbinne  :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 26, 2017, 03:46:52 pm
Lees die Manual  :thumleft:
Hulle tune jou als daarbinne  :thumleft:
Ek het hom gelees. dit was grieks

ek dog toe daar is 4 punte en dit al klaar erg.
Gaan kuier by die man met sy nuwe R, ons doen toe 6 stellings! EK het van hulle sommer heel mis gelees.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 30, 2017, 09:57:49 am
Right! This weekend I had a big ride, we did an Ironbutt 2500km in 36hrs. but first...

I bought a set of pannier racks from Amsterdam on the forum (Thanks! And it was packaged also great!)
I was looking at all the different types, and have actually decided on getting SWmotech as I thought they were okayish, do not draw attention to themselves and are not as crazy expensive as the Rombux. But then I got the Rombux 2nd and and jumped on them. They are super strong, and while some friends do not agree, I like the look of them the most as well.
PLUS THEY FIT WITH THE PIPES!  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: Yeah! I was really not looking forward to modifying stuff to fit.
Of course as always, I believe nothing is easy on a bike, so I still had to deal with some stripped nuts and hammering out grommets, but all is well that ends well!

What do you think of the look?

Next up is upper crashbars. Pity, it seems all of them attach to the lower bars, straining their' mountings, but I do think it will be a good investment. I want Swmotech orange. But lets see.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on January 30, 2017, 10:02:19 am
looking good!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 30, 2017, 10:22:02 am
I will write a ride report but wuld like to give bike opinions here.

So, it was a lot of riding this weekend. tar. But the bike performed flawlessly. And while this is supposed to be less of a tourer than the GS, and it is, it performed a lot better than what I was expecting. I rode mostly with a cushion, and swapped with the GSA a lot as well to just rest my throttle hand (Kaoko on GSA) and to punish my ass in different ways, it still did very well. I mean...2500km was done, no one can state that this cant tour.

My brother rode my GSA, after some 500km's he stated very impressed that he is falling in love with the GSA. I then let him ride the 1190 and he did not want to give it back. Thats a nice summary. This really is an awesome bike. My stepfather riding an S10 was also very impressed with the performance.

The performance really is something else, its so easy to keep up at 140kmph. You can ride ahead, stop and take pics and easily catch up again, go through a corner slow or not focus for a bit or struggle with snacks, and just catch up again within seconds. The GSA does feel a lot more solid, and stiff as well (suspension softer though) but the 1190 is just something else. Its like an BMW X5 vs an offroad foussed M X3 if I can make imaginary cars up. My brother also said like I mentioned earlier, the 1190 feels loose on the road, but its okay. ITs more like a you-are-more-in-control -loose.

Then fuel consumption is also awesome. while the other bikes are heavier physically, this always had the same or better fuel consumption. and this while the others was not ridden like hooligans, and never saw 200kmph.
super stoked with my 1190.  :biggrin:

super sad to have to let my GSA go now, there is no more excuses left to keep it longer  :'( (and I am not joking, this is a tough decision)

Some pics of the ride attached.
(we did 2000km in the first 24hrs, 2nd people in South africa to manage that, but we did not choose easy routes but rather went Kimberley - Port Elizabeth - Durban and back, did not sleep but continued to finish the 2500km in 32hrs.)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on January 30, 2017, 10:39:57 am
Eendag as ek groot is gaan ek saam met jou so iron butt doen  :thumleft:

Terloops sien ek daar was n rooi Honda ook in die groep  :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on January 30, 2017, 10:52:51 am
n rooi Honda ook in die groep

ek neem aan hy ry seker nog? ;)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: krister on January 30, 2017, 12:13:15 pm
Lekker, man!   :thumleft:  (Sub)

As jy daardie GSA wil verkoop, laat my weet asb...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Amsterdam on January 30, 2017, 12:35:53 pm
These Rumbux bars look very good with the double pipe.  If I were you I would choose black for the upper crashbars and not orange.  The orange gets a bit much in my view.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 30, 2017, 12:53:09 pm
These Rumbux bars look very good with the double pipe.  If I were you I would choose black for the upper crashbars and not orange.  The orange gets a bit much in my view.

I havent seen many in black. but will have a look. (I do not have KTM stickers on my car or trailer, yet)

Lekker, man!   :thumleft:  (Sub)

As jy daardie GSA wil verkoop, laat my weet asb...

Ek maak so, hy moet nou gepolish word, GPS mount oorgedra word na KTM, dan adverteer. Sal nie te duur gaan nie oordat hy al gewerk het, 2011 met 82000km op.
Ek sal seker sy Akro ook apart eerder verkoop, dink ek sal meer so op ou einde kan kry. Maar all in due time.

Eendag as ek groot is gaan ek saam met jou so iron butt doen  :thumleft:

Terloops sien ek daar was n rooi Honda ook in die groep  :lol8:
Haha jaaaa, toe ons weer kyk toe staan my 2 jarige se scootertjie daar, dit was nogal snaaks so terwyl ons reg maak Vrydag voor ons ry.
Sondag net voor ek weer wou op trailer laai toe kry ons weer die scootertjie daar tussenin! Was baie oulik. (So Chris, ons kan seker maar se hy het klaar gemaak ook  ;D )

Moet se dit n man se hart nogal warm gemaak om sy familie weer te sien na so lang tyd op die pad!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 07, 2017, 07:31:02 am
I like ekstras. but I also like making stuff better ( :peepwall:) and making stuff mine, not just another bike of the production floor.

So my focus has been to get the GSA ready to be sold, I really have limited time to spend on the bikes so it has been a struggle. At least it has been washed and yesterday I could take off the stearing damper and the GPS bracket.
I would like to fit the stearing damper to the 1190 but we will see about making a bracket. It will be a nice DIY challenge and I can be rather stingy at times.
The GPS lockable bracket I have mounted to the 1190 but still need to give it power. After struggling for 10minutes to fit it I decided screw this, how difficult can it be to remove the windscreen. Its easy! A lot easier than the one on the GSA. And I like the adjustable setup on the 1190 as well.
So, GPS fitted, I hate driving blind. Having a GPS to guide me allows me to go a lot faster on tar and gravel, just because I know what is ahead of the next corner. On the internet there is some stories that the vibration on the 1190 GPS brackets are bad, but it seems solid to me, guess a ride will make it clear to me.

I am going to see if I can still get some more life out of the current jelly rims while I order some other stuff. I still want to research more online if the new KTM Akront rims are a worthy upgrade to the old ones.

In other news, I have a possible buyer for the GSA! hold thumbs as I would like it of my back, I need the money and I need something less to suck up my time. I havent even advertised it yet and still had to sort some little issues on it, but the buyer is keen...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on February 07, 2017, 01:05:22 pm
if you're using the OEM GPS bracket, then it is quite 'wobbly' on bad roads, but OK on tar - I've seen guys stiffen it, but have not yet done it to mine, as I seldom do very bad roads with the GPS.

Where did you power it from? Behind the headlight there is an ACC2 connection, that is only powered with the ignition ON
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 07, 2017, 02:17:32 pm
if you're using the OEM GPS bracket, then it is quite 'wobbly' on bad roads, but OK on tar - I've seen guys stiffen it, but have not yet done it to mine, as I seldom do very bad roads with the GPS.

Where did you power it from? Behind the headlight there is an ACC2 connection, that is only powered with the ignition ON

Its a Touratech bracket, but I have seen that they also ned stiffening. I will test and sort out if need be. I did do a screenshot of the stiffening, it shouldnt be to difficult.

I havent connected the power yet. Still getting the GSA ready for sale, signed the papers today so it needs to go. But then I will look at finding that ACC2 connector. THe spots was connected to ignition via some thin wire (I disconnected) but I dont think the thin wire will carry enough power to charge the GPS. then I will probably only need earth. But I will get help from some more-knowledgeable-peoples.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on February 07, 2017, 02:29:22 pm
........ But then I will look at finding that ACC2 connector. THe spots was connected to ignition via some thin wire (I disconnected) but I dont think the thin wire will carry enough power to charge the GPS. then I will probably only need earth. But I will get help from some more-knowledgeable-peoples.

the ACC2 on the 1190 can only supply 1A, so I would put a relay coil on ACC2 and supply the spots and GPS through relay contacts from ACC1 (10A fused)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on February 07, 2017, 02:34:34 pm
if you're using the OEM GPS bracket, then it is quite 'wobbly' on bad roads, but OK on tar - I've seen guys stiffen it, but have not yet done it to mine, as I seldom do very bad roads with the GPS.

Where did you power it from? Behind the headlight there is an ACC2 connection, that is only powered with the ignition ON

Its a Touratech bracket, but I have seen that they also ned stiffening. I will test and sort out if need be. I did do a screenshot of the stiffening, it shouldnt be to difficult.

I havent connected the power yet. Still getting the GSA ready for sale, signed the papers today so it needs to go. But then I will look at finding that ACC2 connector. THe spots was connected to ignition via some thin wire (I disconnected) but I dont think the thin wire will carry enough power to charge the GPS. then I will probably only need earth. But I will get help from some more-knowledgeable-peoples.

That  wire was only to give power to the relay to open up. The spots get their actual power from + and - on battery. That way the spots was Ignition powered.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 08, 2017, 08:26:42 am
THanks Manic. I understood it like that. Driving at night the spots were a bit rough on traffic so I had to take them of ignition power. If I someday open up everything I will replace that wire with one from the brights, I like that setup.Spots operated manualy and on brights.

Manic, the bike really starts easy, did you perhaps have the stronger starter fitted?

I started her yesterday to make the new owner of the GSA jealous...but now I am frustrated as I am not getting time to ride!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on February 10, 2017, 05:28:11 pm
Martin jou fiets lyk amazing met daai double rear crash bars. Lekker bad ass buiten die protection wat dit lewer. Nog badder ass lyk met front upper cb's. Gaan myne bestel en hopelik tel ek dit op as ek van vliegtuig klim terug v London 13 Maart. Geniet haar. My gat BRAND om te ry maar wag v dealer.


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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 17, 2017, 08:28:27 pm
From me to me!
Die naweek bietjie quality time met die bike op die kaarte!

My seuntjie natuurlik dadelik die vliegtuig prentjie raak gesien.

Ek worry wel so bietjie of die handlebar bag gaan werk
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 19, 2017, 09:33:58 pm
Ek like my bike! Nou al net lus vir ry!

My naweek...ek het bietjie gestrip om die heated grips op te sit en ook om die gps kabel deur te trek na battery toe. Maar nou dat ek dink...ek kon dalk reg gekom het sonder die strip werk.

Wel die heated grips is nogal n mission om op te sit. Behalwe vir al die draadwerk en so, ek moes n vyl vat en throttle kant glad skuur na ek die rubber afgehaal het. So daar was nie vir om draai nie. Dit darm klaar gekry maar is bietjie teleurgesteld in die Oxfords. Ek is net bmw sin gewoond en hulle worrd baie vinniger warm, maar ek moet nog toets op die oop pad, in die winter.

En ja ek weet ek n sissietjie, maar ek maak nie al dag die wysste van besluite nie en het al paar keer nou al mal mal mal koud gekry oo die bike. Ek soek my heated grips.

Verder het ek die handlebar bag toe gerky pleksw van tankbag. Ek dink dit gaan beter saam die bike se lyne en die vorige een wat ek getoets het nogal lekker gewerk.

Upper crashbars ook op, nie so cool dat hulle net aan die standaard crashbars vas maak en nerens andeers nie, maar op my ander thread waar ek oorreed is om n R te koop, is ek ook oorreed dat hulle meer goed as sleg kan doen. Ek hoop.

Verder het ek clutch kant se two finger lever se oraqnje deel afgehaal, daai levers lyk vir my meer vir show as prakties-geid, sal nog toets of hulle nou beter werk. Anders oorweeg ek om die standaard levers net kort af te breek.

Ek baie happy met hoe als saam kom, nou nog net daai sagte rim uit sort en ook nog knobblys kry.
En gps klaar koppel, kon nie n relay die naweek uit krap nie.

Oja, ekt gedog my toolbits is weg, toe sien ek my seuntjie het die setup 'beter' verpak. Nogal gelag
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on February 20, 2017, 06:47:21 am
En ja ek weet ek n sissietjie, maar ek maak nie al dag die wysste van besluite nie en het al paar keer nou al mal mal mal koud gekry oo die bike. Ek soek my heated grips.

Ek weet van een keer waar jy redelik koue op die lyf kon voorkom deur n reenjas te dra  :pot:

Verder het ek clutch kant se two finger lever se oraqnje deel afgehaal, daai levers lyk vir my meer vir show as prakties-geid, sal nog toets of hulle nou beter werk. Anders oorweeg ek om die standaard levers net kort af te breek.

Daar was erens in die Pooratech fred n man wat die balletjie van n standaard lever afgesny het, die lever korter gemaak het en weer die balletjie teruggesit met epoxy. Standaard balletjie het n gaatjie aan onderkant op my fietsie. Weet nie of dit so is op alle fietse nie.

Oja, ekt gedog my toolbits is weg, toe sien ek my seuntjie het die setup 'beter' verpak. Nogal gelag

Die knapie verstaan mooi dat pappa n meer effektiewe verpakkings strategie nodig het  :thumleft:


Verder lyk die fiets lekker. Moonbag... ag ek meen handlebar bag en al
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 28, 2017, 08:31:02 pm
okay, this month I am buying tyres and next month I want to sort the rims or specifically the front rim. I am considering the cheapest solution more and more though. here is the options from cheapest to most expensive.

1. Fit the thickest tube I can find and dump TPMS. I need to figure out what is the DIY to have the valve hole made smaller. Any tips or is this a non-issue?

2. Replace my 2013 OEM rim with the new Akront OEM rim. Keep tubeless and TPMS. supposedly a lot better and I have not heard of a bend Akront as yet.
but it will also be a R4500 mission, minimum.

3. donate current hub and have an SMPro rim made up. I believe these are the strongest (no, there is no excel option, but these guys like to state its better than the excell anyhow). about an R6200 mission, solid solution though. but kind of sucks that I will be butchering my current wheel which is still mostly fine except for requiring some hammer work.

4. this will be to buy the complete wheel (no brake discs though) from KTM where they used the DID dirtstar rim. Almost R9000. advantages is having a complete second wheel. basically the same as this option is buying a second hub for option 3, but a hub is R3855!!

Opinions?
I think I am going to say screw it, and go for option 1. Its a lot of money I wont really recover.

So how do I sort the big valve hole after removing the TPMS?
Will I now sit with a constant tyre pressure warning on my dash?
Where can one buy the thickest strongest tubes online?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Twister on February 28, 2017, 11:45:35 pm
okay, this month I am buying tyres and next month I want to sort the rims or specifically the front rim. I am considering the cheapest solution more and more though. here is the options from cheapest to most expensive.

1. Fit the thickest tube I can find and dump TPMS. I need to figure out what is the DIY to have the valve hole made smaller. Any tips or is this a non-issue?

So how do I sort the big valve hole after removing the TPMS?
Will I now sit with a constant tyre pressure warning on my dash?
Where can one buy the thickest strongest tubes online?

The valve hole is not a problem, I fit and remove a tube every now and then. I prefer going tubeless on long tar trips.

I use Mitas or Michelin heavy duty tubes. I will buy locally (about R400) and send it to you one if it is a problem finding one.

You reset the warning every-time you switch the bike off (Yes it is annoying)

I am a bit concerned using the heavy duty tube for long periods at high speeds but no problems thus far.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 01, 2017, 08:08:15 am
Thanks Twister. thats good feedback.
I started a thread on the Akront on advrider as well and it seems like they can take some punishment. So that does seem like a less expensive solution.
For now I think I will start carrying a tube along and make sure I know how to fit it quick and easy.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 07, 2017, 11:45:04 am
The story continues...
I have blown another paycheck, and its only the 7th now!
Totally worth it, I will syphon some petrol out of my wifes car!

I have my next set of tyres on the way. But have seen the front is more offroad focussed than I thought at first, dont think that will even last on a good gravel road. So I will probably wait till right before the dustybutt beore fitting them. hoping they will last 2500km as the gravel will mostly also be almost-highways. Anyhow, pic attached, they are as good as new, 3 tyres for the price of less than 2! Bargain.

And then another good deal at Bikegear. They have been selling the last of their Uvex helmets at a nice discount, they only had the one colouer and one size, both perfect for me so I went for it. Helmet looks awesome, better than I expected. Now I am on my way to achieving power ranger status with colour matching kit! I also bought some other small bits which I wouldnt buy if not already buying something big. Geld morsertjies. Bought tyre levers and bigger brake pedal attachment and such.
But I think I rather need a bigger hammer, I am losing pressure in about 4 days on my bent front rim.

See also a pic of the invoice in the box. Now that is a company that knows its customers!! Awesome stuff! There is no prices on it! My wife cant see what I spend on all the crap!
This weekend I really want to go ride. I see the rear tyre is wearing super fast, I thought I am going to have road focussed tyres as backup but see now its not worth it, they are basically shot after the iron but, so I will get the last bit of life out of them first.

I would also like to get the centrestand sorted before fitting the tyres.

TO DO:
Modify and refit the centre stand
Power the GPS, I would like to fit one central power point, connected with ignition and relay, and power everything from there.
Fit Akront front rim
I would like to powder coat the radiator guard black, still deciding
I would also like a sticker kit for the bike
somehow fit tooltubes or toolbox for tools. (tube, patch kit and stuff)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Twister on March 07, 2017, 01:36:23 pm
m0lt3n is the Akront front rim a tubeless rim?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 07, 2017, 02:08:12 pm
m0lt3n is the Akront front rim a tubeless rim?

yes. its the OEM rim on the 2016 models.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 12, 2017, 08:35:29 pm
Since I had the R I felt sonething shady on the front suspension. Others that rode the bike didnt feel it but it was getting worse. Like iron on iron impact on the front suspension. I thoughy it over a bit and realised this mustw be stearing head bearings. Specifically because I remember Manic mentioning het had had them replacetd recently.

I am a noob but youtube told me how and that new bearings had to be retightened once they settled. Since my centre stand isnt sorted yet it was a bit of a mission but 20minutes and all was done. They were very loose. I coukd do with a 24 ring spanner as well but all went well. We also realised Philip's bearing will also require retighteneing, but it looks like a lot more work on the 950. A good Friday.
Next post will be more on an awesome Saturday!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on March 12, 2017, 08:48:30 pm
Since I had the R I felt sonething shady on the front suspension. Others that rode the bike didnt feel it but it was getting worse. Like iron on iron impact on the front suspension. I thoughy it over a bit and realised this mustw be stearing head bearings. Specifically because I remember Manic mentioning het had had them replacetd recently.

I am a noob but youtube told me how and that new bearings had to be retightened once they settled. Since my centre stand isnt sorted yet it was a bit of a mission but 20minutes and all was done. They were very loose. I coukd do with a 24 ring spanner as well but all went well. We also realised Philip's bearing will also require retighteneing, but it looks like a lot more work on the 950. A good Friday.
Next post will be more on an awesome Saturday!

I feel like mine is getting loose again too.  I don't have a shake like I did the first time it got loose, but the front end just feels a little floppy in turns. 

KTM actually has a torque wrench specifically for that weird round nut with the holes.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 12, 2017, 08:57:08 pm
Since I had the R I felt sonething shady on the front suspension. Others that rode the bike didnt feel it but it was getting worse. Like iron on iron impact on the front suspension. I thoughy it over a bit and realised this mustw be stearing head bearings. Specifically because I remember Manic mentioning het had had them replacetd recently.

I am a noob but youtube told me how and that new bearings had to be retightened once they settled. Since my centre stand isnt sorted yet it was a bit of a mission but 20minutes and all was done. They were very loose. I coukd do with a 24 ring spanner as well but all went well. We also realised Philip's bearing will also require retighteneing, but it looks like a lot more work on the 950. A good Friday.
Next post will be more on an awesome Saturday!

I feel like mine is getting loose again too.  I don't have a shake like I did the first time it got loose, but the front end just feels a little floppy in turns. 

KTM actually has a torque wrench specifically for that weird round nut with the holes.

i would like to see that thing! I used a hammer and screwdriver. not elegant at all so I did not make it very tight at all to prevent causing damage.


I also saw I am going to seriously have to do something about tightening the gps bracket. it shakes to much.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on March 12, 2017, 09:18:09 pm
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/dreds2/Bike/3EBB5FD4-4936-4418-A1DC-B6FBCA3773C2_zpsa9ucnyym.png) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/dreds2/media/Bike/3EBB5FD4-4936-4418-A1DC-B6FBCA3773C2_zpsa9ucnyym.png.html)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/dreds2/Bike/E4AB6F1E-25F9-4BE9-B06C-2A1E9CDCAE53_zpsh2zfl2bm.png) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/dreds2/media/Bike/E4AB6F1E-25F9-4BE9-B06C-2A1E9CDCAE53_zpsh2zfl2bm.png.html)

works just like a torque wrench.  Pretty cool....But pretty limited use haha
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 13, 2017, 07:31:12 am
That is nifty Roadhawg.
On the youtube stuff I watched no one bothered with torque wrenches, rather stating that to loose is better than to tight, and not to tighten so much that its difficult to turn.

It was rather easy actually, I got my front in the air. Loosened the 4 bolts on the forks, loosened the big nut on the stearing (in middle). I did not have correct tools for this so had to make use of a BIG shifting. It worked. Tightened the stearing head bearing with a screwdriver and hammer. I did not make it very tight but I can add that it was very loose. Required more than a complete turn. Done. Big improvement!

I am making this thread a bit pic heavy, but ah well...I like pics of my bike :) let me add some more! We did a breakfast run on Saturday, visited our local Starbucks!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 13, 2017, 08:30:46 am
Okay, rather than crowding this with a mini ride report, I wrote a mini ride report :)

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=207320.0
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 14, 2017, 10:35:41 pm
I took my Harley for a spin tonight...issues!
the 1190 has spoiled the fun I normally had on the Harley. it feels so slow now, I keep hitting the rev limiter!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on March 15, 2017, 08:22:53 am
I took my Harley for a spin tonight...issues!
the 1190 has spoiled the fun I normally had on the Harley. it feels so slow now, I keep hitting the rev limiter!

Jy kan altyd my Honda vir n spin vat om weer die Harley te waardeer. Jy kan ook enige tyd die Harley by my kom los sodat die olie op n gereelde basis sirkuleer kan word  :pot:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on March 15, 2017, 02:27:56 pm
I took my Harley for a spin tonight...issues!
the 1190 has spoiled the fun I normally had on the Harley. it feels so slow now, I keep hitting the rev limiter!

so are you saying the Harley felt exciting after the 1200GS?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 15, 2017, 02:58:13 pm
I took my Harley for a spin tonight...issues!
the 1190 has spoiled the fun I normally had on the Harley. it feels so slow now, I keep hitting the rev limiter!

so are you saying the Harley felt exciting after the 1200GS?  ;) ;D

uhmmm got me there

but lets put this into perspective
The 1190 in rain/offroad mode still has more power than the GS. (I think)
GS did have about 10hp more than Harley, but weighed probably about 30kg more. It was still faster (again I think)

I thought the Harley was faster than a 950 also, but philip smoked me, that thing had something like a powerband kick in!


I am busy looking at buying a cheap set of plastics for the 1190. So I can take mine off for when I sell it some day. Its 1050 panels but supposedly fits, that combined with a sticker kit should look awesome. But still deciding.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on March 15, 2017, 03:01:37 pm
I took my Harley for a spin tonight...issues!
the 1190 has spoiled the fun I normally had on the Harley. it feels so slow now, I keep hitting the rev limiter!

so are you saying the Harley felt exciting after the 1200GS?  ;) ;D

uhmmm got me there

but lets put this into perspective
The 1190 in rain/offroad mode still has more power than the GS. (I think)
GS did have about 10hp more than Harley, but weighed probably about 30kg more. It was still faster (again I think)

I thought the Harley was faster than a 950 also, but philip smoked me, that thing had something like a powerband kick in!


I am busy looking at buying a cheap set of plastics for the 1190. So I can take mine off for when I sell it some day. Its 1050 panels but supposedly fits, that combined with a sticker kit should look awesome. But still deciding.

1050, 1190, 1090 should all be identical so yeh.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 21, 2017, 07:22:08 pm
Bike has about 25000km on now, bought at 21000km. I concidered leaving the filter check for after the next trip but then my spotlights stopped working.
So today I successfully took of the tank for the first time, not to shabby for a double lefty like me! Except that I forgot to close both petrol taps so spilled some petrol, but all good in the end.
I am happy that I opened up, I think the filter appreciated the clean up. I added some before, cleaned, and oiled photos. Oiling is always a concern to me, obviously one dont want to use to little oil, but then also to much oil can fould sensors.

After some heavy thinking I got the wiring of the spots sorted out, replaced a broken relay and made some modifications so that they turn off with ignition as well. But got lazy to also connect them with my brights as well. Maybe I will do that the coming weekend. I also connected my GPS to ignition power and everything is working fine now, I just need to solder and wrap everything up again. Currently its a mess.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on March 21, 2017, 08:00:36 pm
those filters cleaned up nicely  :thumleft:

fok ek wens ek't nog so baie energie gehad  :o
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jakkals on March 21, 2017, 08:34:09 pm
Lekker om maintenance self te doen, gee mens meer gemoedsrus en jy leer jou bike beter ken. 👍

Ek sukkel self met die uni filters, ook altyd bang ek sit te min olie op.  :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 21, 2017, 09:00:52 pm
those filters cleaned up nicely  :thumleft:

fok ek wens ek't nog so baie energie gehad  :o

die skoonmaak darm redelik maklik. ek het hierdie goed jare terug al gekoop vir-ek-weet-nie-meer-wat-nie maar dit werk soos n bom
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 25, 2017, 07:02:01 pm
Today we spend way to much time looking for a wire that connects to the headlight main beams and in the end left it for another day when I do want to strip the headlight and maybe upgrade the bulps.

My stepfather has a moto, if you struggle then strip further. I am not on his level yet but starting to realise it definitely has merits. Anyhow, spots and gps wiring is finalised for now and tyres changed.


Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 26, 2017, 05:23:14 am
Cant sleep so thought I would update further.

We looked at the shaking GPS but couldnt immediately come up with a solution. Will somewhere in future make a proper plan not involving cable ties. It should be fine fror now. The solutions I have seen online uses the screw in the middel of the dash, add some spacers andr connects to the gps bracket, but I cant figure out how it attaches to the screw as mine does not go right through. I will edit a picture and add it later to explain.

Tyres.
I got tyres secondhand for a very good deal. But the rear was one profile narrower and higher. Feedrback I got was that this wont be an issue, but when I got back to the tyre shop they could net get it to bead. I saw it made a huuge gap and was fairly loose on the rim, so bought a heavy druty tube and went home. After allowing me to struggle first for a while on my own (I am to smart...had to find out why I should listen to the old men in the hard way it seems...) my stepfather again stepped up and helped with fitting that tube.
If he didnt he propably coukd have bought an 1190 R at a bargain! Last laugh is mine! What a hateful job! I thought I disliked tubes, I have no doubt left!

Tyre pressure sensor was removed and tube fitted all went a lot easier when some experience joined. Using that pole the old man could fit the tyre without any thre levers and no risk of pinching a tube. My little pump took forever to reach 3 bar to bead the tyre and all was fitted to the bike, after I declined an offer of removingy the tube again to revert back to tubeless as the thre has had some opportunity to open up again. I take it it is possible the insides of a tyre coukd have bended a little closer together if it has been laying for a while maybe with some weight on it?

 I havent finished completely refitting all fairings, but I am really looking forward to seeing my bike complete with the knobbies. And not just a little worried about bottoming out the rear with the higher profile tyre. Tomorrow I will also increase the slow compression on the rear as well to mitigate a little of that risk.

On another topic, where does one buy different springs for the shocks? I am considering doing the upgrade myself. R5k sounds a lot better than a possible R15k (guessing, I have no quotes yet)

Edit...pic of gos mount cable tied and old vs new tyre bead gap. No way bead would seat like that (I got the tyres secondhand, two rear tyres were part of the deal)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 27, 2017, 12:55:00 pm
I have really been looking forward to seeing knobbies on my bike, so can say I am super pleased.

Now my bike is sorted and ready for the coming trip, 12 days left to sort route and other random stuff. We are going to have to carry additional petrol as well so I need to look at that. I havent tested my 12V socket on the bike yet so I need to look at battery power also (need to run tracking app for certification as well). Then there is food, possibly sleeping bag and so on.

I would have preferred doing a shakedown run before the big one, but I am on standby this weekend so no luck.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on March 27, 2017, 01:04:20 pm
for extra power points, also consider that there is one switched and one unswitched connector at the rear of the bike - easily accessible
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 27, 2017, 01:38:31 pm
for extra power points, also consider that there is one switched and one unswitched connector at the rear of the bike - easily accessible

What do you mean switched vs unswitched?
I thought both of those work with ignition, one 1 amp and other 10 amp? I am currently using the 1amp outlet to power the relay for the spotlights and to charge the GPS. Or am I talking about something different?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on March 27, 2017, 01:44:54 pm
for extra power points, also consider that there is one switched and one unswitched connector at the rear of the bike - easily accessible

What do you mean switched vs unswitched?
I thought both of those work with ignition, one 1 amp and other 10 amp? I am currently using the 1amp outlet to power the relay for the spotlights and to charge the GPS. Or am I talking about something different?

nope

Front and rear you have ACC1 and ACC2

ACC1=unswitched=10A
ACC2=switched=1A

switched=ON when IGN is ON
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on March 27, 2017, 01:53:39 pm
Daars maar net iets moois aan n knobbly op n bike... :thumleft:

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 27, 2017, 02:11:58 pm
for extra power points, also consider that there is one switched and one unswitched connector at the rear of the bike - easily accessible

What do you mean switched vs unswitched?
I thought both of those work with ignition, one 1 amp and other 10 amp? I am currently using the 1amp outlet to power the relay for the spotlights and to charge the GPS. Or am I talking about something different?

nope

Front and rear you have ACC1 and ACC2

ACC1=unswitched=10A
ACC2=switched=1A

switched=ON when IGN is ON

Thanks Bundu. So I got it right by being lucky

Daars maar net iets moois aan n knobbly op n bike... :thumleft:



Ja dit hoort mos so! :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on March 27, 2017, 03:03:21 pm
I'd love to hear what you think of the Pirellis. I like the look of em but was worried about them being too thin.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 28, 2017, 08:21:11 am
I'd love to hear what you think of the Pirellis. I like the look of em but was worried about them being too thin.

11 days to big mileage then I should be able to give proper feedback, or at least give feedback on how much they have worn.
Currently my thinking is that the very agressive front will be good for the weak rims. I like deflating on gravel, riding at about 1.5 to 1.8 bar, but the front is especialy very agressive, so I think I will do the trip at 2 bar. If I still bend rims at that pressure it will be shocking, not even a VStrom I have owned with cast alloys had issues at 2 bar.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 28, 2017, 10:24:23 pm
Daai voorrim het klaar n nare hou weg!! :eek7:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 29, 2017, 09:01:35 am
Daai voorrim het klaar n nare hou weg!! :eek7:

Haha dit was nie so erg nie, lyk nou net baie erg na ek hom met n hammer bygekom het op daai rim tape.

Ek het daai hou sommer op eerste grondpad geslaan. Hom toe met n plankie en hammer probeer reg kry, niks beter, toe met n rubber hammer en niks beter. het toe maar heelwat gaan oplees en gesien ek sal daai rim elkgeval moet vervang. Maar hy verloor toe nogsteeds seker so 0.15bar n dag. Wel....toe dink ek skroef dit en kom hom ordentlik by met n hammer sonder hout of rubber of strond. Nou verloor hy so 0.05bar n dag, hy moet werk kan nie net wil mooi lyk nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 07, 2017, 12:01:07 pm
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=13c7258e73f55f30b6

For those following the thread and interested can follow our Dustybutt ride with the link. 5am tomorrow morning it will start to track our progress as we attempt to do 2500km in 36hrs on gravel.

The time is finally here for our big ride, I am super excited!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on April 07, 2017, 12:04:29 pm
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=13c7258e73f55f30b6

For those following the thread and interested can follow our Dustybutt ride with the link. 5am tomorrow morning it will start to track our progress as we attempt to do 2500km in 36hrs on gravel.

The time is finally here for our big ride, I am super excited!
Julle moet versigtig ry. Dis lang ure en baie kilos en mens se konsentrasie dwaal. Stop as jy voel jy is op jou limits. :deal:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on April 07, 2017, 12:13:23 pm
Baie sterkte.
Kan jy pic hier gooi van julle roete?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on April 07, 2017, 12:17:12 pm
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=13c7258e73f55f30b6

For those following the thread and interested can follow our Dustybutt ride with the link. 5am tomorrow morning it will start to track our progress as we attempt to do 2500km in 36hrs on gravel.

The time is finally here for our big ride, I am super excited!
Julle moet versigtig ry. Dis lang ure en baie kilos en mens se konsentrasie dwaal. Stop as jy voel jy is op jou limits. :deal:


Hoop julle geniet dit wees net veilig en hoop alles loop klop disselboom.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 07, 2017, 12:48:01 pm
Baie sterkte.
Kan jy pic hier gooi van julle roete?

EK het maar probeer mooiste grond paaie uit soek. EN dit ook n mission om wel grondpaaie te kry wat ook groterige reguit paaie is, mens moet maar heeltyd in zoom op google maps om te sien of dit nou teer of grond is. Alle teer kilos tel nie, en ons ry meer as 100 van hulle, so in totaal gaan ons naby aan 2700km eintlik ry.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on April 07, 2017, 12:52:39 pm
Yoh yoh yoh!

Beplan julle om Írens bietjie te rus vir n uur of twee?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Dwerg on April 07, 2017, 01:03:42 pm
Liewe bliksem!! Hou dit veilig  :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 07, 2017, 01:33:55 pm
Yoh yoh yoh!

Beplan julle om Írens bietjie te rus vir n uur of twee?

Hopelik gaan als goed dat ons mooi vining vorder en ons 9ure se slaap kan in kry!

hehe, ons sal maar kyk hoe gaan dit, en as ons te moeg raak maar iewers langs die pad le vir so 2 ure of so.
Daar is baie reen voorspel, so dit my grootste worry eintlik. Buiten die reen is die trip baie moontlik, maar n snot pad kan baie tyd vreet.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on April 07, 2017, 01:36:11 pm
Watter bikes is in die pakkie Molt?
Pasop vir daai wÍreld se modder en moet asseblief nie die reen wegwens nie. Daai area wat julle gaan deurry het dit ergerlik nodig. :deal: :eek7:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 07, 2017, 01:46:33 pm
Watter bikes is in die pakkie Molt?
Pasop vir daai wÍreld se modder en moet asseblief nie die reen wegwens nie. Daai area wat julle gaan deurry het dit ergerlik nodig. :deal: :eek7:

Haha nee ek besef die reen is nodig daar. Ek glo darm dat die reen om ons sal val soos met my vorige 1600km dustybutt. Dit maak vir die beste ry weer ooit :)

Ek gaan met die 1190 ry en Philip Kuhn ry saam met sy 950. Ons het amper nog n 990 en n 640 (of is dit nou 660? die 690 voorganger) ook saam gehad maar die datum het nou nie gewerk vir almal nie. Vorige dustutt was met twee 1200GS'e...so no-pressure op KTM hier!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on April 07, 2017, 06:41:14 pm
bluxum, eerder jy as ek - wees veilig en post fotos as julle terug is  :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on April 08, 2017, 10:13:48 am
As daar tyd gaan wees :ricky:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 10, 2017, 09:03:38 am
Update after the weekend....
Let me put it like this....
the 1190 is like spiderman...

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 10, 2017, 09:59:31 am
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=208440.0

I will be dumping most of the photos in the RR.

Next up for me, after washing the bike. is to have the suspension sent away for progressives and revalve by Superfoxi. He actually also mentioned reworking the bumpstop on the rear so I guess that is also a must...
Then I will see what can be done with the wiring that needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on April 10, 2017, 03:10:12 pm
Sounds eventful!! :o
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 18, 2017, 12:54:59 pm
I plan to start stripping my suspension in this week or at least in the coming weekend. Does anyone have some vids or pics or a thread or tips on how to do that? I am guessing the forks shouldn't be the toughest, but I am a little concerned over the rear. Do I remove the swingarm?

Also, starting researching, anyone know of options to upgrade my headlamp? I read a lot on the Cyclops LEDs, but that's not available in South Africa. I started a thread on it as well to maybe get some fresh eyes. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=208724.0
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on April 18, 2017, 02:48:55 pm
I plan to start stripping my suspension in this week or at least in the coming weekend. Does anyone have some vids or pics or a thread or tips on how to do that? I am guessing the forks shouldn't be the toughest, but I am a little concerned over the rear. Do I remove the swingarm?

Also, starting researching, anyone know of options to upgrade my headlamp? I read a lot on the Cyclops LEDs, but that's not available in South Africa. I started a thread on it as well to maybe get some fresh eyes. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=208724.0

have you got the workshop manual?
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFptwlWBT8aOV8o&id=4BC2D89C85C7C171%213151&cid=4BC2D89C85C7C171
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 18, 2017, 03:10:56 pm
I plan to start stripping my suspension in this week or at least in the coming weekend. Does anyone have some vids or pics or a thread or tips on how to do that? I am guessing the forks shouldn't be the toughest, but I am a little concerned over the rear. Do I remove the swingarm?

Also, starting researching, anyone know of options to upgrade my headlamp? I read a lot on the Cyclops LEDs, but that's not available in South Africa. I started a thread on it as well to maybe get some fresh eyes. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=208724.0

have you got the workshop manual?
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AFptwlWBT8aOV8o&id=4BC2D89C85C7C171%213151&cid=4BC2D89C85C7C171

Damn Bundu, That's a lot of stuff you just shared!! Thanks!
Tonight I will be doing some reading!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on April 23, 2017, 10:17:21 pm
A semi good weekend for me! I managed to remove the suspension and I dont think it took even 2 hrs.
I started with the front and all went well till I had to loosen the stearing damper that clamps around the fork. A bit of a missi9n but after some contortionist escapades I won. Seems liie the shock that spilled most oil had a completely missplaced dust seal?

After that was the rear, I removed the wheel and then that one mudguard. Then saw its only the top and bottom bolt to remove-yap, I have never done something like this. Both were relatively easy though with my top off course being bent. (Bent bolt makes me feel like a normal 1190 rider now! If that makes sense...)
The bottom bolt was easy to get out also but the shock was stuck in its place. I asked around on whatsapp but seemed like I had to pry or hammer it out. I thought a bit and then had epiphany! Check the photo.

Oh and my bike looks like that after a wash.
Now I just need to tie up with superfoxi and get progressives fitted. Just wish I could get more travel as well.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 02, 2017, 11:19:46 am
Glad you coming right.

Ps It's easier working on a clean bike ;)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 02, 2017, 12:26:07 pm
Armpump that is after a wash, and I thought it was actually half decent wash but was also shocked at how dirty everything still was.

Here is a before pic. The darker bits is not wet mud but oil.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 03, 2017, 07:44:42 am
Such a pity you had kak.

But hey there is always next time right :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 03, 2017, 08:17:55 am
Such a pity you had kak.

But hey there is always next time right :)

Jap, I hope the suspension upgrade will sort out the bottoming issue and maybe help with rim preservation as well. But in general I understand now why the statement has been made that the 1190 can not be made into an expedition bike like the 990 could, or not without spending a considerable amount of money.
But once sorted I do not think anything comes close.


On the suspension, I am struggling to package the stuff to send it off to superfoxi! its heavy and the forks are long! I do not have a box that can fit them, so will be using bubble wrap but doubt if I have enough of that either. a mission
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on May 03, 2017, 08:41:00 am

On the suspension, I am struggling to package the stuff to send it off to superfoxi! its heavy and the forks are long! I do not have a box that can fit them, so will be using bubble wrap but doubt if I have enough of that either. a mission

What about sliding them into some PVC piping or maybe even Kreepy Krauly pipe.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 03, 2017, 08:48:05 am
Rims are cheese for high speed hard terrain.

But the joys of tubeliss system also has it's perks.

Forks and shock have there limits (must remember it's 235kg before any extra's and rider)

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 03, 2017, 09:14:19 am
Such a pity you had kak.

But hey there is always next time right :)

Jap, I hope the suspension upgrade will sort out the bottoming issue and maybe help with rim preservation as well. But in general I understand now why the statement has been made that the 1190 can not be made into an expedition bike like the 990 could, or not without spending a considerable amount of money.
But once sorted I do not think anything comes close.


On the suspension, I am struggling to package the stuff to send it off to superfoxi! its heavy and the forks are long! I do not have a box that can fit them, so will be using bubble wrap but doubt if I have enough of that either. a mission

Dump the oil and use a rifle case :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: AJBotha on May 17, 2017, 09:02:16 pm
 Were you happier with the suspension on your GS or did you upgrade them too? Thought the 1190 suspension is better than GS suspension?

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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2017, 07:34:25 am
Were you happier with the suspension on your GS or did you upgrade them too? Thought the 1190 suspension is better than GS suspension?

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I have actually not given this a thought.....
I had a 2008 GS and a 2011 GSA, both with ESA, not upgraded. I would rate the 1190 suspension better than the GS but not really when compared to the GSA suspension. The same travel but they don't bottom so easily and also I have never thought they required upgrading, on whoops/high speed bumps the 1190 rear already warned me they are not managing to well. But let me not take away from the 1190, I am a noob. ESA has spoiled me, and the characters of these bikes are hugely different. While the GS/A felt solid like a cruising battleship/hippo the 1190 is much more agile and lively.

Then also, my GS I did a lot of heavily loaded and pillion offroading, and until getting the GSA never felt that the suspension required upgrading either. Both these BMWs took not only harder knocks but I would guess 5 times (if not more) more abuse than my 1190 and they were fine. Granted, stanchion on GSA also started leaking oil, some creativity sorted that. (But I am yet to see a bike as hard worked as that bike was.)

Superfoxi will be picking up the 1190 shocks today! His review of them will be interesting as I think the seals on all 3 went on one trip. the rear was also wet with oil when I packaged them.
Packaging I did at Postnet, basically a lot of bubble wrap and a lot of fragile stickers.

I also got my first quote on fixing the undertray and some extra goodies. Tinus mentioned that the undertray is R1400. THey quoted me R660 and is adamant its called the tail en lower piece. SO I have queried it with some photos for confirmation its the right item. Also need to replace the the bend top shock bolt. I hear some upgrade them but I am hoping the suspension upgrade will sort that out.

Other than that I still need to fix one plug on the ECU, and need to upgrade the stearing damper while it is stripped as well. But I am really struggling to put time in. Need to do a lot of cleaning also.

Groot trip beplan vir Augustus, sal my gat moet begin roer, wil nog dag trippies ook voor dan in werk.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: AJBotha on May 18, 2017, 07:54:30 am
Thanks, dit is baie insiggewend! Het die agterkant gebottom en toe die "undertray" gesmash? Ek het al gehoor dit is 'n probleem wat hulle glo op die 2016 modelle uitsorteer het.
Is dit wat die een ECU plug beskadig het of was dit iets heeltemal anders? Kon jy die trip klaarmaak of moes jy trailer huis toe?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2017, 08:17:30 am
Thanks, dit is baie insiggewend! Het die agterkant gebottom en toe die "undertray" gesmash? Ek het al gehoor dit is 'n probleem wat hulle glo op die 2016 modelle uitsorteer het.
Is dit wat die een ECU plug beskadig het of was dit iets heeltemal anders? Kon jy die trip klaarmaak of moes jy trailer huis toe?

Dit nie uitgesort nie, die 1190 het geen deur-slaan protection soos die 990 of 1290R nie. (1290R se PDS, Progressive damping system)
in 2015 het die 1190R net n effens swaarder of stuiwer spring gekry, maar die PDS ding is n groot change. Die valving is ook nie van so aart om PDS te bied nie, soos ek verstaan op 990 is nie.

Yes, agter wiel skraap die undertray as jy deur slaan, maar ek het toe nou nice tyres gekry vir n bargain wat een profile hoeer is. nou is dit nie meer bargain nie is dit haha.
Maar as ek weer Tinus se naam kan gebruik, syne het ook deurgeslaan en als erger uitgeruk, met OEM spec tyres. sy ECU het in die veld gele, hy het hom amper daar gelos.
Myne het net die plugs uitgeruk, ek kon hulle terug druk en terug ry. Behalwe een plug wat al die drade af is, al die agterste ligte en so werk op daai plug so ek was gelukig dat hy gegroet het eerder en nie een van die ander plugs nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: AJBotha on May 18, 2017, 08:23:06 am
Eish, not nice to hear!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 18, 2017, 08:42:18 am
Eish, not nice to hear!
nope, as jy wil n fiets van die vloer af trek en ver grondpad ry met baie knocks en valle en Angola haal. Kry n GSA of XT660Z
maar as jy bereid is om aandag te gee, geld in te sit en paar goed uit te sort en dan met n baie nice bike te sit wat die ander nie sal kan match nie al kry hulle dieselfde aandag, voel ek daar is nie eers iets naby die 1190 nie...
(ek bargain wel nou baie op daai suspension upgrade, en besef dit n weird opinie)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 22, 2017, 11:55:19 am
This weekend I spend some time on the bike again but didnt feel very positive. I was looking how am I supposed to remove the undertray and realised I should just have dropped the bike of at KTM.

It seems like I have to take out everything! The battery and the other ECU to take out the undertray. I am guessing its not tricky just a lot of stripping. Anyone else done this and can please give some tips?

I paused with stripping for now, but spend some time cleaning and came to the realization my undertray must have broken a lot earlier in the trip, that last knock I took was just the final nail in the coffin. There is just to much mud inside the bike. Its a flippen mess!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: PHILIPKUHN on May 22, 2017, 01:10:28 pm
Jap Strip eers wanneer aldie parte hier is anders gaan jy sukkel.
lyk erger as wat dit is, jy sal sien.

wanneer parte hier is dan gaan die job loop!!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 22, 2017, 01:11:37 pm
Jap Strip eers wanneer aldie parte hier is anders gaan jy sukkel.
lyk erger as wat dit is, jy sal sien.

wanneer parte hier is dan gaan die job loop!!
jy moet my parte bring!  skuif jou kursus vroeer!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 25, 2017, 09:02:31 pm
Good time to clean properly and check all wiring/connections

Take lots of pictures and store screws etc in zip lock bags per section as you go along
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on May 25, 2017, 11:45:26 pm
Hoe unsubscribe ek van die thread?

Wil elke keer in my broek kak.........
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 26, 2017, 05:22:30 am
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-1190-problems.906504/page-65

Page 65 pic might help
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on May 26, 2017, 06:50:08 pm
Hoe unsubscribe ek van die thread?

Wil elke keer in my broek kak.........

 :lol8: :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 27, 2017, 08:24:22 pm
Hoe unsubscribe ek van die thread?

Wil elke keer in my broek kak.........
Die lig sal weer skyn!
Suspensie is weer in die pos oppad terug en nuwe undertray is betaal ook, oor so 2 weke loop hy hopelik weer! Ek begin nou al ernstige PMS kry.
Intussen beplan ek my groot trip vir die haar. Aug moet die bike sy man kan staan teen 990's in lesotho! Great times
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on May 27, 2017, 08:29:29 pm
Hoe unsubscribe ek van die thread?

Wil elke keer in my broek kak.........
Die lig sal weer skyn!
Suspensie is weer in die pos oppad terug en nuwe undertray is betaal ook, oor so 2 weke loop hy hopelik weer! Ek begin nou al ernstige PMS kry.
Intussen beplan ek my groot trip vir die haar. Aug moet die bike sy man kan staan teen 990's in lesotho! Great times

Ek begin nou al bewe. Asb moenie n ride report op forum kom doen nie........
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 31, 2017, 07:29:12 am
Hoe unsubscribe ek van die thread?

Wil elke keer in my broek kak.........
Die lig sal weer skyn!
Suspensie is weer in die pos oppad terug en nuwe undertray is betaal ook, oor so 2 weke loop hy hopelik weer! Ek begin nou al ernstige PMS kry.
Intussen beplan ek my groot trip vir die haar. Aug moet die bike sy man kan staan teen 990's in lesotho! Great times


Did you look at the thread http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-1190-problems.906504/page-65 (http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-1190-problems.906504/page-65) and see how this guy added support ?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/danbart/Bikes/KTM%201190%20R/Rear%20Fender/20150228_174717.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/danbart/Bikes/KTM%201190%20R/Rear%20Fender/20150302_172715.jpg)



 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 31, 2017, 08:00:35 am
Hey thanks Armpump. I have read that thread in the past when I just got the bike, but forgot that I can use this bit as reference for my issue. Was very happy when you posted the link and will be looking into it.

I should be getting the undertray this weekend, will start getting direction then. My intention at the moment is not to strengthen it though, I am hoping that the suspension upgrade will help. It allegedly helps with rim smileys as well. Will have to see.

(if its an easy strengthening option I will do it, but my pannier racks look different and I am kind of in a hurry to finish. but maybe...)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on May 31, 2017, 10:50:14 am
First prize is keep tire away from undertray but bracing is cheap and easy while you about it.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 03, 2017, 08:54:49 am
Update ?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 05, 2017, 08:09:13 am
Yessss update time...

I have made some nice progress but haven't sorted the big issue, the undertray and a broken plug, yet.

Last week I received my suspension, so this weekend I installed that. But its fairly slow going as I try to properly clean whatever I open up or take off. The fork oil and mud is a mean combo to clean! Anyhow. Forks are back on as well as the rear shock is also in. I was worried a bit about the rear, as it was tough to get out, but once aligned and all it went fairly easy.

I also received some goodies from RAD so long (undertray on back order though). Amongst others this tank pad. Will it work cause I don't see it happening on my bike? Anyone know?
I asked the sales guy of RAD twice (Yes, TWICE) if it will fit on my bike... not very happy so hoping I am missing something, in which case I will apologise to RAD in their absence here :)

On my front tyre with the cut...I fitted a heavy duty tube with some mild language expansion. But now I need some feedback as I did not think this through...can I leave the cut like that? I am guessing not...but how can I seal it from the outside without taking the tyre off again. The concern is that rocks and grit will enter the tyre and grind the tube from inside. If I have learned anything from this tyre issues it has confirmed to me how much I dislike tubes and love tubeless. I just want to get some mileage out of that tyre then I will probably spend another piece of my son's inheritance on replacing the rim with another tubeless.

Then last picture, I need to take that pump or motor or whatever out to take out the undertray. Or do I have to? Can I just disconnect those fittings? At the moment I am not focussing to much on the undertray until I can get the new part and better see where it attaches.

Cant wait to be riding again!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 05, 2017, 08:40:28 am
Tyre will have to come off again and fit a internal "patch"

(http://cyoum84abk-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/fix-flat-tire-with-combination-patch.jpg)

Personally i would not trust a cut like that for any form of high speed/weight.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 05, 2017, 08:48:51 am
Oh and you should have enough width to place that tank pad on 1190 R as well

(https://www.motopabst.eu/media/images/org/0.37201000+1294240665.jpg)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on June 05, 2017, 09:28:18 am
Yessss update time...

I have made some nice progress but haven't sorted the big issue, the undertray and a broken plug, yet.

Last week I received my suspension, so this weekend I installed that. But its fairly slow going as I try to properly clean whatever I open up or take off. The fork oil and mud is a mean combo to clean! Anyhow. Forks are back on as well as the rear shock is also in. I was worried a bit about the rear, as it was tough to get out, but once aligned and all it went fairly easy.

I also received some goodies from RAD so long (undertray on back order though). Amongst others this tank pad. Will it work cause I don't see it happening on my bike? Anyone know?
I asked the sales guy of RAD twice (Yes, TWICE) if it will fit on my bike... not very happy so hoping I am missing something, in which case I will apologise to RAD in their absence here :)

On my front tyre with the cut...I fitted a heavy duty tube with some mild language expansion. But now I need some feedback as I did not think this through...can I leave the cut like that? I am guessing not...but how can I seal it from the outside without taking the tyre off again. The concern is that rocks and grit will enter the tyre and grind the tube from inside. If I have learned anything from this tyre issues it has confirmed to me how much I dislike tubes and love tubeless. I just want to get some mileage out of that tyre then I will probably spend another piece of my son's inheritance on replacing the rim with another tubeless.

Then last picture, I need to take that pump or motor or whatever out to take out the undertray. Or do I have to? Can I just disconnect those fittings? At the moment I am not focussing to much on the undertray until I can get the new part and better see where it attaches.

Cant wait to be riding again!

What work did you have done on the suspension?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 05, 2017, 09:48:08 am
Molt vat daai tyre en gee hom vir n pÍl om op sy plaasbike te gebruik. :deal:
Anders kan jou seun dalk vroeer erf. moenie kans vat met n agterband.

Sorry het bedoel voorband. :deal:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: AJBotha on June 05, 2017, 09:59:02 am
Molt vat daai tyre en gee hom vir n pÍl om op sy plaasbike te gebruik. :deal:
Anders kan jou seun dalk vroeer erf. moenie kans vat met n agterband.

Gooi weg, daai gaan vir jou nog baie frustrasie bring, Írens afgeleŽ in die bloedige son, sonder water en met baie stof... Jy kan die tyre wat jy koop oordra na jou nuwe rim toe.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 05, 2017, 10:06:06 am
Ai my tankpad lyk baie kleiner as die een in daai foto, ek sal maar weer mooi gaan kyk. Sal nice lyk as hy werk.

Tyre...ek sou daai tyre net so gery het met 5 plugs in as my rim nie gebuig was nie. Die situasie is tans dat die gebuigde rim onder 1.7bar af blaas maar bo 2.3bar rond druk hy die plugs uit. Tubeless is awesome. Eks baie lus en blaas tube heel af, en druk weer plugs in en plaas weer tube op en kry wat maak hy.
As ek daai tyre vervang vervang ek die rim ook en ek nie nou eintlik lus vir daai ekspedisie nie. Reken dit seker so 6 na 7k, nuwe tyre ingesluit. Ek moet nou besluit hoe erg haat ek tubes teenoor hoe erg suinig ek tans voel.

Offroad Fanatics: Suspensie was na Superfoxi toe. Ek het nog nie uitgetoets nie, maar hy het vir my progressive springs orals ingesit en revalving voor gedoen. Daarmee saam alle seels en rubbers en so vervang. Dust seels het ook al hulle ouderdom begin wys. Een of ander bushes was ook moeg en die het hy ook vervang. So dit maar upgrade met proper diens. Hopelik hou hulle. Ek het kouse in die pos om voor ook op te sit om te keer vir volgende keer se modder ook. Ek wil nie nog seels groet nie.

Sidenote...toe ek die shock verpak het agter shock ook olie op gehad, Superfoxi se hy moes nie. maar het nie self veel fout daar gesien nie. Maar either way, ek het dus op een trip altwee seels op voorste shocks gegroet en dalk agterste shock sin ook. Modder is nie jou maat nie.
O, en onthou om jou fork bleeders toe te maak, Postnet was glo glad nie baie happy toe hulle vloer vol olie op eindig nie...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 05, 2017, 10:08:21 am
Molt vat daai tyre en gee hom vir n pÍl om op sy plaasbike te gebruik. :deal:
Anders kan jou seun dalk vroeer erf. moenie kans vat met n agterband.

Gooi weg, daai gaan vir jou nog baie frustrasie bring, Írens afgeleŽ in die bloedige son, sonder water en met baie stof... Jy kan die tyre wat jy koop oordra na jou nuwe rim toe.

Kleingelowiges!!
hahaha
Ek sal hom eers in die area uit toets darm.
Kyk so daarna, die rim is elkgeval moeg en moet vervang word, as hy my in middle van nerens drop ry ek hom stukkend terug.


(Hopelik kom ek nie oor n maand terug en se ek moes geluister het nie...)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 05, 2017, 10:13:06 am
Molt as jy hom wil behou sit een van daai deutrek plugs is. Hy het n gator aan die binnekant wat vasgom en dan n rubber piepie wat deurtrek. Moenie plugs gebruik. Daai deutrek plugs is die enigstes wat ek sal gebruik op n voorband.
Het nou juis een in op n nuwe voorband. Klein gaatjie wat n pendoring gemaak het.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Amsterdam on June 05, 2017, 06:26:30 pm
The plugs alone with a tube will no doubt cause your tube to wear and leak where it rubs against the plugs.  Throw that tire away and get another one or remove the plugs and just use a tube (depending on the size of the hole).  A new tire is much cheaper than repairing crash damage.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 13, 2017, 02:05:33 pm
Update ?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 13, 2017, 02:21:23 pm
Hi armpump. Thanks for asking, but not much progress.

Did manage to fix the plug in the first pic. Its the connector for all the rear lights, my stepfather is a perfectionist and a 'radio-something' by trade so this is his food, its as good as new again. I would like to know how KTM would have addressed it, maybe replacing part of the wiring loom?

Other than that the 'tail end lower part' should hopefully be in my town before the weekend...so I have big plans for the weekend. In the second pic is a huge concern though, I would rather not have to take out the (I think) ABS pump. SO I am also waiting for the replacement part to see where all the attachment points sit and hoping for a revelation that it wont be necessary to take this out. Holding thumbs!

Then I am also busy with some visual upgrades but I will reveal all in due time.


Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on June 13, 2017, 02:54:24 pm
All the shit in these modern bikes gives me the chills bigtime!

Why aren't you just giving the bike to a dealer to fix? You should have an insurance claim right?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 13, 2017, 03:19:17 pm
All the shit in these modern bikes gives me the chills bigtime!

Why aren't you just giving the bike to a dealer to fix? You should have an insurance claim right?

Well hindsight is 20/20....
It was a big decision, and knowing what I know now maybe I should have. But lets look at the pros and cons

Pros
Less hassle (to a degree)
quicker
front rim would also have been fixed (I will probably still claim it sometime in the future)

Cons
I don't learn my bike
unnecessary claim (It goes on your record, I don't like claiming)
No suspension upgrade. I cant tell KTM to remove suspension, ship off to Superfoxi and install again 2 weeks later when its back. (this way I basically close my eyes and do everything, no procrastinating)
I don't trust KTM, there is enough horror stories
Even ham fisted with little experience I have, with the help of forums the work is very straightforward. And I know I have cleaned the plugs with a brush and damp cloth, how would KTM have cleaned them...water around CPU? or leave it as be? I doubt they would spend the amount of hours I have already spend, just on cleaning
I did my first solo front tube install!
I am 400km from nearest dealer.



Maybe I am exaggerating. Must say I am very tempted now to go ahead and still claim. I am feeling poor here and would like my front rim replaced sooner rather than later. I want my tubeless back!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 13, 2017, 03:40:40 pm
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/danbart/Bikes/KTM%201190%20R/Rear%20Fender/20150228_163401.jpg)

Take lots of pics as you go along

Not that hard i think
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 13, 2017, 06:56:34 pm
did that guy remove his subframe!?
aijaijai
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 14, 2017, 07:11:57 am
Makes sense to do that.

Look how easy shock access is :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 17, 2017, 09:17:03 pm
Okay, I have removed the cover so thought I would share some of the challenges I had. I do not have much of a technical background and while I have done a lot of small DIY stuff this is the most challenging one for me yet.
And if I broke the undertray again next week I would drop the bike off at KTM.

I struggled to remove the old one, so in the end started to break the old one further to reveal more of the attachment points. I did not have far to go when I got stuck at screws beneath the side covers. Problem was  there was no space for a ratchet or anything. I cound not take the covers of either as then I would have to remove the pannier racks aqnd in all my wisdom the bike was hanging from the roof on those racks. So I had to go through the mission of unscrewing with single a bit and a shifting spanner as per picture 1.

Pic 2 shows the pannel removed/broken up to the front box part.

Pic 3, this little whatever had to be unplugged as well, what is that?

Next up I struggled with the ABS pump (?). I had removed everything I could see but that last box was still attached. Eventually I saw it was screwed to the frame at the bottom. The one side I could reach from the top with some extensions but on the other side there was no access next to all the pipes in the way. Eventually I removed the seat lock and could easily reach it with a ratchet. Pic 4

Pic 5 I had to remove the lock from the cable. Hope I can put it back together correctly.

Pic 6 panel removed. Pic taken from the rear with exhaust in pic right bottom. Had to still do a bit of persuasion/twisting and pulling.

So since pics I have done more cleaning and hope to start with fitting the new undertray tomorrow. Its going to be tough to just get it in place, its a tight fit. I am hoping writing it down like this will help structuring my thoughts come time to fit.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on June 18, 2017, 12:46:24 pm
WOW!  :o
I doubt if I would be able to put all that together again, without having a box full of 'extras'
Good luck!  :thumleft:  and thanks for sharing!

edit: that looks like the regulator in pic 3
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on June 19, 2017, 08:10:12 am
Genugtig! Daai lyk soos verskriklik baie werk. Sterkte met die res.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 19, 2017, 08:17:59 am
In the end I am a little disappointed in the amount of time I had free to spend on the bike over this long weekend.
I have started putting everything back together, but not much more than that. It was a mission to get the panel in place, that took some time. And then some parts I struggled to remember where they came, but that's also sorted. Lets say 10% done but some of the trickier stuff is at least already in place. Fortunately I took pics for this thread and they helped me see where some stuff go.

Top gear top tip....put the ECU (actually MCU) back on with its 3 screws at the back of the panel before refitting the panel. There is no space to fit it afterwords! I always knew I should have been a gynaecologist!

WOW!  :o
I doubt if I would be able to put all that together again, without having a box full of 'extras'


Leftover parts is a sign you made it better!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on June 19, 2017, 08:20:42 am
Always, always, always take pictures when stripping something so elaborate.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 19, 2017, 08:23:02 am
Always, always, always take pictures when stripping something so elaborate.

Maar ek het al baie fotos van my bike toe hy nog skoon en heel was :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on June 19, 2017, 08:26:30 am
Always, always, always take pictures when stripping something so elaborate.

Maar ek het al baie fotos van my bike toe hy nog skoon en heel was :)

Ek het nogsteeds a klein huisie vol fotos van daai verdomde Nissan van my erens. Ek gaan delete dit sommer vanaand as ek tuiskom en skop die muur kaalvoet om die pyn van voor af te herleef.

Ten minste was jou bike heel en in werkende orde toe jy hom gekoop het.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 23, 2017, 07:03:16 pm
Progressing nicely. Got to put some proper time in, not just 10min here 10min there, then its just so much easier!

Pic 1. Star of this show was that pen magnet thing! Dont know how I ever managed without something like that. Also, what plug is that? I dont know where it goes, but have started up and bike seems fine.

Pic 2. Cover beneath the battery found after installing the battery. Just an example of one frustrating yourself.

Pic 3 Removing light really made me think the bike needs some tranformer name!

Now that I am so close to beaing done I am extremely frustrated not having an extra hour just to finish!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on June 23, 2017, 07:22:41 pm
good progress!  :thumleft:

I haven't seen a plug like that on my bikes..... maybe an after-market connection for power? Measure it with IGN ON and OFF
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 24, 2017, 10:05:38 am
Battery tender plug ?

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 24, 2017, 12:30:34 pm
Battery tender plug ?



As in to charge?



So I am on the road again! Damn I love this bike! Got a bit carried away and my cell fell out of my pocket, screen gone. But I will still be putting some photos up later today hopefully. I did some visual upgrades as well and love it! Stay tuned.


First impression on the suspension upgrade...its a lot stiffer as in I preload less when taking a speedbump at speed. But its not harsh as the bike was when everything was set at max. I think I will be happy.
On the front end I did somehow screw up the routing of the wires, I struggle to get to full lock. So some minor stuff still to sort but its just finishing touches.

Just happy to be back on two wheels again!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 24, 2017, 05:30:54 pm
Found the obstruction when turning. The stea1ring damper was catching some plastic. It was not twisted on the fork so that the arm is fully retracted when the wheel is turned to full lock.

Anyhow, promised pics attached!
I had the tank cover painted black and fitted a tankpad. I also replaced the headlight mask (I think is the name) with a black 1050 one. I also wanted to replace those silver side panels with black ones but ordered the wrong ones and am now sitting with a set of extra black side covers. This is maybe a good thing as I knew replacing the silver make it all to much black and the plan was then to fit some orange stickers to break it. Now I like it as is.
Need to decide now if I want to send those covers back or fit a sticker kit.

Oh, I also painted the silver radiator guard black wi5h a twist


All in all I am very pleased with what the bike looks like now. Feels like mine now as well. Hope that makes sense.


Oh, Manic I hope you approve!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on June 24, 2017, 05:47:07 pm
I think it looks nice with the black  :thumleft:

what's that there by the right mirror? chain oiler control?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on June 24, 2017, 06:07:05 pm
Oxford grip heat control

Looks cool :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 24, 2017, 08:11:08 pm
I think it looks nice with the black  :thumleft:

what's that there by the right mirror? chain oiler control?
Heated grips like Renrew said.
I cant make my mind up on an oiler. Coming from a shaft I have never gotten into the habit of caring for a chain. Cleaned the chain now but keep forgetting to apply wax!
The one reason the other reason...i have a lot of old oil to get rid off from servicing my cars! :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on June 24, 2017, 08:18:52 pm
I think it looks nice with the black  :thumleft:

what's that there by the right mirror? chain oiler control?
Heated grips like Renrew said.
I cant make my mind up on an oiler. Coming from a shaft I have never gotten into the habit of caring for a chain. Cleaned the chain now but keep forgetting to apply wax!
The one reason the other reason...i have a lot of old oil to get rid off from servicing my cars! :)
I've got my 1st oiler on my present bike, after probably 6 chain and one shaft bikes - I think it's worth it, being very lazy myself - I've got the Cobrra Nemo2, very easy to install and I just give it a twist every 300km
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on June 25, 2017, 06:53:20 am
Bike looks good again!

When is mx track test :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 26, 2017, 09:05:57 am
Bike looks good again!

When is mx track test :)

Good point!  I have been planning and figuring out how to stretch my brownee point balance to do a little trip, but we do actually have an MX track that I can quickly go and try the suspension out on. I am not much of a jumper but I will be getting a feeling and its great for skills training!


I need to prioritise what I still need to sort out before our August big trip. List of the top of my head:
Front tyre needs mushroom plug or something
I need to oil all tools and package them again, they are in a sorry state at the moment.
I do need a few 100km of gravel to shake loose whatever wants to come loose.
Spotlights is sometimes not working, I suspect the switch, so will replace that. Other times only the one spot is dead, need to troubleshoot.

Over the weekend I did let the bike sleep outside one night to check the starter on cold start, it was fine. So either I have the upgraded starter or a better-than-OEM battery.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on June 26, 2017, 09:13:37 am
Bike looks good man.

If you make those side panels white you'll almost have a 1090R clone haha :biggrin: :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 26, 2017, 10:24:03 am
Bike looks good man.

If you make those side panels white you'll almost have a 1090R clone haha :biggrin: :thumleft:
I actually don't like the white of the new R models that much. On looks the R models with the solid colours looks much nicer to me. Until you mentioned it now and I checked, I did not realize the 1090 had a black tank cover.
I love the 1290 colours in the attached pic 1
and then my inspiration comes actually from the bike in pic 2 & 3. except that I have no intention of changing to a twin light setup like that.
Pics stolen from advrider...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 28, 2017, 10:42:58 am
Looking at changing rear sprocket to the 44 tooth. (but have a thread running on that...)

SO just leaving this here to allow me to reference it later. FMI thus  :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: AJBotha on July 12, 2017, 09:21:16 pm
Curious about feedback on that upgraded suspension!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 13, 2017, 08:29:13 am
Curious about feedback on that upgraded suspension!

Sorry, thought I did make that update.

Well, on the first ride my phone fell out of my pocket, forgot to take a pic of the screen but it was properly fubar. Almost went through some guys window. I got a bit carried away being reunited with my mistress and all! I am also sure Samsung regretted their policy of one free repair, one corner of the screen was actually curled over from impact. Its sorted now though, free :)

Anyhow, I don't have time for a nice day trip where I would really like to feel the suspension on normal gravel, ruts and washouts. the real test for me is it has to be able to do all. Not simply be set to stiff as possible and you end up with a harsh ride.

So, from hitting speedbumps in town at speed and half an hour on the local MX track (or quary gat, watookal die regte naam) it is awesome! It feels considerably stiffer, and I haven't played with settings yet, but its stiff without being harsh. Super happy! The time on the jumps was also awesome, not that I can jump much but I am happy! Philip who has a lot more Enduro 2T experience and ride a 950 also rode a little and also thought its stiff but in a good way.

I will take a vid next time we go there again, I am using this half hour blasts as prep for getting fit for a big trip coming up. half an hour and I was sweating, back and forearms aching, so I need to get bike fit again, but down with flue now and some other family commitments.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 17, 2017, 07:03:40 am
Presume no rear tire rub marks on under tray  ?

How many turns in on pre load without luggage ?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 17, 2017, 08:12:03 am
Presume no rear tire rub marks on under tray  ?

How many turns in on pre load without luggage ?

don't know and don't know yet. Settings is still as I received the shocks from Superfoxi.
Still need to go put the time in to reset everything to normal and test. Its cold here and I just had a very bad cold. Its less than 3 weeks to our big trip, so I really need to put time in. Not only to sort the bike (its still untested after all the work I put in) but also to get myself riding fit.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 17, 2017, 01:00:48 pm
If mx track never left bottoming mark you should be good.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 08:10:36 am
Ii started a thread on general failure warning I am getting, any ideas what it could be?

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=212708.0

I still have time to replace the battery, but don't really want to do that if there was no need. This morning with cold start it struggled to swing, and the clicked like a flat battery, then tried again and it started normal. is this symptoms of the weak 2013 starter or actually a flat battery?
I took a video. will see if I can post the link

Edit: https://youtu.be/BMtM8fJ1m_M
 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on July 18, 2017, 08:25:53 am
My first guess would be battery, especially being winter.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 10:10:13 am
Different question. I also got low oil pressure warning this morning. Anyone had that caused by battery?

guess I will go check oil level first now, but I am worried that it could be that I have the crappy oil filter with no bypass. I am also concidering going for a 5w40 oil (Spec iirc is 10w50) now before going of to Lesotho. but I will have to be quick on deciding whether I want to change the oil (and order filter)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on July 18, 2017, 10:16:30 am
Different question. I also got low oil pressure warning this morning. Anyone had that caused by battery?

guess I will go check oil level first now, but I am worried that it could be that I have the crappy oil filter with no bypass. I am also concidering going for a 5w40 oil (Spec iirc is 10w50) now before going of to Lesotho. but I will have to be quick on deciding whether I want to change the oil (and order filter)

I applaud your determination with this bike M0lt, I seriously would have just taken it to KTM and said "fix it then sell it".

At least you know the bikes inner workings now for future fuckups.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on July 18, 2017, 10:19:21 am
Different question. I also got low oil pressure warning this morning. Anyone had that caused by battery?

guess I will go check oil level first now, but I am worried that it could be that I have the crappy oil filter with no bypass. I am also concidering going for a 5w40 oil (Spec iirc is 10w50) now before going of to Lesotho. but I will have to be quick on deciding whether I want to change the oil (and order filter)

If you don't want to be pressured you could always book a service during your trip, in Bloem for instance.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 10:29:19 am
I am feeling more positive now. the thing is we have access to a lot of information. so now I know most probably the MTC and general failure is either a weak battery or throttle linkage that is stuck (easy fix/check) and I also know that the standard oil filters in cold weather can pull the paper element in. But damn, do I really need to get all the possible issues that other have somewhere had to fix!

So yes Renrew, as much as I like the bike...its starting to get a bit old now. I just need to get going on that trip, sure I will feel better afterwards.
I console myself with believing what is sorted wont pop up again, and there is not many issues left to possibly get.

bud500 no choice for a Bloem service, our itinerary is a bit packed. If there is some extra motivation (touch wood) on top of fitting new front rim I will send it in for a service. Service will probably include valve clearances then, and whatever else long term stuff I am not interested in doing myself.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 10:38:51 am
Can only be a good thing to change oil and filters.



Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 10:40:11 am
Change battery.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 10:48:31 am
Can only be a good think to change oil and filters.




Change battery.

nog R2500!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 11:32:30 am
leave oil and do battery.............. push start is very kak idea
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 11:37:37 am
http://motohut.co.za/motobatt-motorcycle-batteries.html
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 11:47:04 am
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/catalogue/model/5267

Anyone know if the Hiflo 650 is the correct oil filter with the bypass for cold oil?

http://motohut.co.za/motobatt-motorcycle-batteries.html
you don't mayyyyybe know which motobatt?
I was just on Tracmac looking at them as well.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 12:50:07 pm
The MotoBatt MBTZ14S QuadFlex AGM Battery Replaces These 2 Yuasa Batteries
MotoBatt SKU   Ah   CCA   L x W x H (inches)   L x W x H (mm)   Total Terminals
MBTZ14S   11.2   190   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   4 QuadFlex
 
Replaces These OEM Yuasa Part Numbers
OEM Model   Ah   CCA   L x W x H (inches)   L x W x H (mm)   Spacer Height
YTZ12S   11   170   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   Total Heght
YTZ14S   11.2   190   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   110 mm   4.33"
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 12:52:05 pm
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/catalogue/model/5267

Anyone know if the Hiflo 650 is the correct oil filter with the bypass for cold oil? ]

Yes

http://www.hiflofiltro.com/catalogue/filter/HF650

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 01:27:39 pm
The MotoBatt MBTZ14S QuadFlex AGM Battery Replaces These 2 Yuasa Batteries
MotoBatt SKU   Ah   CCA   L x W x H (inches)   L x W x H (mm)   Total Terminals
MBTZ14S   11.2   190   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   4 QuadFlex
 
Replaces These OEM Yuasa Part Numbers
OEM Model   Ah   CCA   L x W x H (inches)   L x W x H (mm)   Spacer Height
YTZ12S   11   170   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   Total Heght
YTZ14S   11.2   190   5.94   3.42   4.33   151   87   110   110 mm   4.33"

I am not getting the mbtz14s at motohut or tracmac but on your link it says I must get the MBTX9s as in the screenshot. Assuming the yuasa detail you gave is for my bike? I am not missing something?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 02:04:25 pm
Can only be a good think to change oil and filters.




Change battery.

nog R2500!
Wa koop JY? Ek het R799 betaal vir die een wat daar in is, en dit was nogals by KTM ook  :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 02:08:29 pm
10.5 amp
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 02:41:18 pm
Can only be a good think to change oil and filters.




Change battery.

nog R2500!
Wa koop JY? Ek het R799 betaal vir die een wat daar in is, en dit was nogals by KTM ook  :imaposer:

Ek bedoel olie en olie filter saam die battery plus so bietjie verergering vir dramatiese effek.

Dankie Armpump. Ek koop dan daai goed. Moes seker maar elkgeval diens. Moet nou nog net kyk watse olie ek in die dorpie op spec kan kry
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 02:54:33 pm
When last you done a air filter inspect and clean............ hoe lekker maak ek werk vir jou. :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 02:58:49 pm
When last you done a air filter inspect and clean............ hoe lekker maak ek werk vir jou. :imaposer:

Nee daai is darm gecover. Dink so 1500km terug. Die komende trip is so 2500km sal daarna weer doen.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 03:50:20 pm
Bly by die olie wat die bike in het van dag 1 af. Ai tog ek sukkel met jou oh donnor.

En nee dis nie KTM se olie wat daar in is nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 18, 2017, 04:03:58 pm
Now you know why you got oil pressure problems when cold ;)

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 04:07:12 pm
Sug

En hy sal ook nie se watse olie nie...ek moet nou eers die boekie gaan soek seker en hoop dit wys daar iewers
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 04:16:55 pm
het self olie supply. Van dag 1 af. Beste wat daar is. Nou wil jy gaan change alweer.

Ek stuur jou n foto, fucketbucket maak my de moer in.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 04:17:26 pm
Now you know why you got oil pressure problems when cold ;)

 :imaposer:

Jou ronde blink poephol my ou  :imaposer:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on July 18, 2017, 06:08:19 pm
As dit is soos hulle uitgekom het sal die motorex wees.

Na my service weet ek nie wat deler gedoen het nie maar na 'n paar ure se ry en bike koud word sien ek olie vlak is minder as 50%. Bel delaer en vra watter olie is in. Belray. Maak my moerin as dealers self nie manufacturer brand/recommendations volg nie. Ek dink ek service my bike myself van nou af.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 18, 2017, 06:22:44 pm
As dit is soos hulle uitgekom het sal die motorex wees.

Na my service weet ek nie wat deler gedoen het nie maar na 'n paar ure se ry en bike koud word sien ek olie vlak is minder as 50%. Bel delaer en vra watter olie is in. Belray. Maak my moerin as dealers self nie manufacturer brand/recommendations volg nie. Ek dink ek service my bike myself van nou af.

Rede hoekom ek min gespin is oor dealership service history en nie juis reken dealerships sal n beter werk daarvan maak as ek nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on July 18, 2017, 06:29:22 pm
ek's nie vreeslik gepla oor die olie se brand nie - as die spec reg is kan hulle maar gooi
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 07:13:16 pm
As dit is soos hulle uitgekom het sal die motorex wees.

Na my service weet ek nie wat deler gedoen het nie maar na 'n paar ure se ry en bike koud word sien ek olie vlak is minder as 50%. Bel delaer en vra watter olie is in. Belray. Maak my moerin as dealers self nie manufacturer brand/recommendations volg nie. Ek dink ek service my bike myself van nou af.

Jy weet dat as bike koud is, wys olie vlak laer in die glasie as wat hy is. Daarom se die manual ook, bike moet operating temp wees voordat jy olie check.

As hy half wys, en bike is koud, is olie vlak chap.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on July 18, 2017, 07:20:30 pm
het self olie supply. Van dag 1 af. Beste wat daar is. Nou wil jy gaan change alweer.

Ek stuur jou n foto, fucketbucket maak my de moer in.

verkies jy die sonneblom, of die canola?  ;)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on July 18, 2017, 08:04:46 pm
Die healthy ene asb man.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on July 19, 2017, 05:26:33 am
As dit is soos hulle uitgekom het sal die motorex wees.

Na my service weet ek nie wat deler gedoen het nie maar na 'n paar ure se ry en bike koud word sien ek olie vlak is minder as 50%. Bel delaer en vra watter olie is in. Belray. Maak my moerin as dealers self nie manufacturer brand/recommendations volg nie. Ek dink ek service my bike myself van nou af.

Jy weet dat as bike koud is, wys olie vlak laer in die glasie as wat hy is. Daarom se die manual ook, bike moet operating temp wees voordat jy olie check.

As hy half wys, en bike is koud, is olie vlak chap.

Verskoning die olie het half gewys na ek gery het so bike was warm. Afgekoel en toe bygesit, nou is hy sorted soos manual se.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 31, 2017, 08:12:06 am
If I can do the same update I did on the other thread...

Battery did not sort it out.

I am still getting the General failure warning as well as the MTC failure. Coming Saturday we are going on a 7 day trip so there isn't much time left to sort out anything more. I haven't ridden enough to say if the MTC is actually completely off when the error happens, but current plan is just to ride it as is on the trip and see what I can do afterwards.

On the suspension, I went for a ride on the MX track again, or quaries, and checked the undertray. There is rubbing marks which is concerning. The outside edges of the tyre must be catching, frustrating. I am definitely not swopping out another undertray myself. I did take one jump or hump to do about a 1m drop onto level. Guess I will increase slow and fast compression as well as rebound on the rear by a few clicks (Is that the correct approach?).

And then on other news...how do you dump R450 down the drain due to lack of experience, or rather due to a brain fart! I had a tube in the rear tyre as I simply could not get it to bead initially. So this weekend I took out that tube but was not thinking.... I stepped on the tyre to break the bead right next to the valve...so as per picture I now have an almost unused useless heavy duty tube to use for rubber washers or whatever. At least I am tubeless on the rear again.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on July 31, 2017, 11:19:34 am
Cut it in strips to make STRONG elastic bands to secure things like tools together.

If you add preload on spring you need to add more rebound damping


Chat to Superfoxi about some loaded settings
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 04, 2017, 11:29:43 am
D-1 day!!
Tomorrow this time I will be sweating on Old Mill Drift near Clarens! Still need to travel a 1000km to there but I am still stuck at work!

So I have changed the oil on my bike, filter was fine so that's sorted. MTC failure still comes and goes, especially after spinning the rear some, but I will live with that. Its possible to be the rear sensor on the wheel, ABS or speed sensor? I fitted a 44 rear sprocket yesterday and saw the sensor takes some abuse with me not being to good at changing wheels.

Concerns I have for this trip is I felt yesterday again that my stearing head bearing is loose again, I will see when there is a gap to tighten them again. And another thing, the bracket of the windscreen is loose, hopefully that doesn't bite me in the ass. Now I just want to start the trip! My first proper trip in a few years
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on August 04, 2017, 12:22:49 pm
Mooi ry Molt. :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 06, 2017, 05:45:42 am
Update from lesotho...
We were pretty tired last night and went to bed early, but this is long past normal wake up time for me so I am bored while the others are still sleeping...so now I do an updatr!

Windscreen bracket is fine in lowest sstting and only have a very slight stearing head bearing knock still after tightening.
So other than getting MTC warnings and general failure warnings all the time the bike is actually doing very well.

To be honest, more than just very well. Its awesome! I ride in offroad mode now to save the rear tire plus I am very rusted, only got back in the groove late in the dŗy and then started hammering it. We skipped old mill drift and only did monantsa pass and sone other back roads, see spotwalla link. Huge ruts and washouts and the bike is taking it like a champ! I am super happy with the suspension upgrade, I dont think I would have gotten far without it. I am really gunning it over some of those ruts and it just takes it all. Its addictive!

Then also the sprocket swop is also awesome. Bike pulls like a train now in just about any gear. A lot of the times I take on a steep incline in 2nd with very little momentum where others gear down to 1st and I can still just gun it. It is making life just so easy. But we will swop bikes a little sometime then I can give a comparritive opinion vs a late model 990R (fully uograded) and my buddy's opinion on the 1190 as well.

Now, if only we can remember to buy more water when there is an opportunity to do so!

Spotwalla link, a tracking app with some photos at location of our story as it unfolds...
https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=15b675985596aa09ff&hoursPast=0&showAll=yes
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on August 06, 2017, 06:00:32 am
Lekker man enjoy.

Be safe!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on August 06, 2017, 07:24:37 am
Lekker Molten, veilig ry maar geniet dit. :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 12, 2017, 03:05:06 pm
Uodate time after the big trip!
Its defibitely a love/hate relationship...

I will do a ride report whcih will give a good picture of how tough the terrain is that we did, but let me summarise I have not seen an 1190 doibg similar terrain on this forum yet. It was very tough and the bikes really is capable.

We were 2x 1190s and 2x 990s. My 1190 had suspension upgrade, the other was also a 2013 model and no upgrade, set to hardest with Tinus on the back weighing in at I would guess above 100kg. Both 990s was the 265mm travel models and both upgraded. I was capable of keeping up in all terrain, from the most extreme rocky to fast gravel roads. Only once did I find that the 1190 was lacking was when we had to go down a particukar high step up. I will add a picture. The 1190 beached and had to be pushed over while the 990 scraped. Not enough of an issue for me to rate the 990 now a better offroad bike.

But...
My bike is pretty tired now, to the point that I cut the trip short. The other guys quit earlier for various reasons other than their bikes, but I was set up for another day but believe it would not have been a good thing for my bike.
For one I have a bash plate boĺt sheared off in the engine. Probably when I took the wrong line somewhere. I cant remember ever really hitting it very hard and would add its a shit design compared to the GS where I have taken much harder shots and only broken brackets, also never stuck with loose rattling bashplate.
Then the damn stearing head bearings! I had to tighten them every second night and every night at the end of the trip. They were tightened before the trip also. Before this bike I did not even know what they were. I will now have them replaced again and see if that helps, but doubt it, they were new and it also seems to be a common issue.
At the end of the trip my whole head unit / speedo cluster seemed loose. This could be me being overly 'aware' due to having read up to much, but I will see. But from reading up I know that the whole cluster is mounted on plastic brackets which wears when doing loads of gravel. So I will strip and see.

Other than that the mirrors and hand guards are alks broken. I knew the oem handguards are not to strong but wasnt expecting that. The one broke when sand beneath the sidestand gave in and I grabbed the handle with oart of my hand on the handguard. It broke due to minimal force. But like I said, I knew and accepted before the trip that they will probably not last. Mirrors I could not get loose to bend out of the way, they must have some serious loctite on them. Anyhow, more upgrades then due in that department.

Doing the next strip and fixing up I will definjtely be using loads of loctite, I lkst a lot of bolts that came loose, probably my own sloppyness.

The error messages...well what can I say...at least MTC failure on in street mode is fun. Its still heavy frustrating though to see MTC failure and general failure almost within 5 minutes of every startup. Once the error occurs the fuel rance and oil temp readings also dont show plus I cant change ride modes.

In summary, the bike is still massive fun. I am trying to not be a whining bitch but rather stating the facts. I hope tbats how it goes. I would still not have done this trip on anything else.



This time I will do an insurance claim as I did have an off (or 2) so I will see what comes of that.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 12, 2017, 04:13:14 pm
First pick is where the 1190 was not high enough
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Twister on August 12, 2017, 07:35:16 pm
m0lt3n

I found it is better to take it slow in the technical terrain in Lesotho and rather look for a better line. Those routes looks familiar.

It does not help to only tighten the neck bearings if you don't loosen the triple clamp. Then tighten it until the steering does not move freely anymore and then slightly loosen. That should take care of it.

There is 4 bolts holding the fairing and instrument cluster. If they are not fastened using locktite you will definitely loose them. Replace the bolt and fasten it, that should sort out the lose speedo.

I use foldable mirrors, cheap and in 8 years I have yet to destroy one. I'll attach a pictrure

I have replaced the abs sensor on the rear wheel and that sorted out the MTC failure problem.

Good luck
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on August 13, 2017, 09:46:02 am
Bly jy het dit darem geniet :thumleft:

Jip gaan maar die insurance roete die keer en laat alles nou regmaak-daai rim of rims ook... ;)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on August 13, 2017, 06:51:59 pm
m0lt3n
I use foldable mirrors, cheap and in 8 years I have yet to destroy one. I'll attach a picture

Lesson learnt. Going to get fold-able mirrors but have a few more serious things to take care such as I spotted what I think is oil on my right fork (red one).
I'll take it for a short spin to confirm and further to Martin's earlier point on suspension I need to get better suspension. 
Don't want to spoil the RR but other cosmetic damage include bent hand guards and mirrors :-)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 14, 2017, 07:41:01 am
Great feedback Twister. It was you I recently asked about that rear abs sensor I take it, couldnt find the thread to see if it worked. So awesome news.

I washed the bike and now feel a lot more positive. Side panels did not scratch as I ibitially thought.
My issues summarised for sorting out now:
Neck bearings I will tighten myself and loctite that flippen nut.
Replace and loctite fairing bolts
Drill out bolt from engine holding bashplate
My stearibg damper is broken somehow. In the middle on the mount, weird, I reckin its part of the knock that bend my rim and insurance should cover it :)
Replace front rim
Bracket holding windscreen worn on one side
Replace rear abs sensor.
And while it is at ktm I will have valve clearances done.
Replace handguards and mirrors. I want the fancy one with mirror sliding into handguard, just want to double check again if they are strong like cycra or barkbusters.
Replace broken front wheel mudguard, I may or may not have seen a sheep somewhere near me when I connected that rock that caused my insurance inducing spill.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on August 14, 2017, 09:12:28 am
Great feedback Twister. It was you I recently asked about that rear abs sensor I take it, couldnt find the thread to see if it worked. So awesome news.

I want the fancy one with mirror sliding into handguard, just want to double check again if they are strong like cycra or barkbusters.

Saw these mirrors sold under the brand rotweiler. Drill 2x small holes in the handguard and they fold into the handguard. They are expensive at circa USD 230.
I'm in two minds about the hand guard mount, if you bend/loose a handguard, you loose the mirror too as opposed to having more redundancy with a standard foldable mirrors.

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/quick-flip-mirror-mounts-arrow-kit/
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: PHILIPKUHN on August 14, 2017, 10:08:18 am
Great feedback Twister. It was you I recently asked about that rear abs sensor I take it, couldnt find the thread to see if it worked. So awesome news.

I want the fancy one with mirror sliding into handguard, just want to double check again if they are strong like cycra or barkbusters.

Saw these mirrors sold under the brand rotweiler. Drill 2x small holes in the handguard and they fold into the handguard. They are expensive at circa USD 230.
I'm in two minds about the hand guard mount, if you bend/loose a handguard, you loose the mirror too as opposed to having more redundancy with a standard foldable mirrors.

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/quick-flip-mirror-mounts-arrow-kit/

Dis belaglik duur.
Ek waarborg a breek as jy handgaurd tref met a val.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 18, 2017, 01:49:46 pm
I got the quotation for a full 30k km service, need some advice...

do I need to pay the almost R1500 for the 4 KTM spark plugs?
2x NGK LKAR9BI9 and 2x LMAR7A-9

And I have read a lot on cleaning the petrol filters yourself and re-using, is this advised? I do intend to fit a pre filter.

5 hours of labour comes to R2k as well, hopefully that also ends up being less.


Oh and also, what suggestions do you guys have for handguards? I do not like the look of the Cycra or of the orange KTM powerparts ones. Currently I am thinking of getting Barkbusters. Good or bad idea? Yesterday I saw a pic of SW motech Cobra as well which looked nice, I am just not to sure on how strong they are, I know nothing about them actually.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: TinusBez on August 18, 2017, 01:58:53 pm
Can't answer on the spark plugs but guess that is what they cost.

Got the barkbusters from bikegear delivered today, will fit them and send a photo. They certainly not as bulky as the cycra's I broke and thickness of the aluminium seems the same as the cycra. Whether that is indicative of strength I don't know, guess if you hit it on the wrong spot they will bend which is what they are supposed to do as opposed to a bent handlebar. 

Waiting for Christiaan to respond on the pre-fuel filter on the thread, also keen to do that but won't be stripping unless I have everything, not taking that tank off twice.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on August 18, 2017, 02:07:06 pm
How much are BarkBuster and Cycra compared to the Highway Dirt Bike setup?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on August 18, 2017, 02:53:53 pm
How much are BarkBuster and Cycra compared to the Highway Dirt Bike setup?

HDB is best you can buy.......... period!

But the full one(strong) for tech riding is expensive

Black option of this is what i want

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/10/u5apapyt.jpg)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on August 18, 2017, 03:01:22 pm


Not so sure about mirrors so probably better to go rottweiler

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on August 18, 2017, 03:04:21 pm
Yeh that's why I'm asking.

If the cycras are like 2000 then it makes sense to go a little more for the HDB setup.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 20, 2017, 05:47:08 pm
How much are BarkBuster and Cycra compared to the Highway Dirt Bike setup?

HDB is best you can buy.......... period!

But the full one(strong) for tech riding is expensive

Black option of this is what i want

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/10/u5apapyt.jpg)


I really wanted this. But o ly know of chris bringing them in, they dont have and old prices were something like r2500 plis r750 each for mirrors.
So thats a lot plus a long lead time.
Insurance need to replace OEM so I will see if I can somehow maybe use their money as a boost to get these. Holding thumbs.
Know of anyone else stocking these or bringing them in?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on August 20, 2017, 06:17:56 pm
Cycra Probend CRM Ultra are about R3700 a pair. The HDB is much stronger but looks really outdated. I had a set and have the Cycras on all my bikes.

Just remember that if you fall with these bikes, or even just tip over, they WILL move most of the time and/or bend. The Enduro bikes it makes sense because they can take the weight of the enduro bike.

The mirrors on the HDB are also crappy.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChristiaanJ on August 20, 2017, 08:18:02 pm
I got the quotation for a full 30k km service, need some advice...

do I need to pay the almost R1500 for the 4 KTM spark plugs?
2x NGK LKAR9BI9 and 2x LMAR7A-9

And I have read a lot on cleaning the petrol filters yourself and re-using, is this advised? I do intend to fit a pre filter.

5 hours of labour comes to R2k as well, hopefully that also ends up being less.


Oh and also, what suggestions do you guys have for handguards? I do not like the look of the Cycra or of the orange KTM powerparts ones. Currently I am thinking of getting Barkbusters. Good or bad idea? Yesterday I saw a pic of SW motech Cobra as well which looked nice, I am just not to sure on how strong they are, I know nothing about them actually.
Martin, I followed this method to clean my filters. It does work, is cheap, and will take you no more than an hour.

http://blog.guglatech.it/en/articles/2014/12/05/ktm-99011901290-rc8-fuel-pump-filter-checkingcleaning

I did however fit a new pump O-ring and cable tied the holding brackets on the pump whilst I had it out.

You don't need to remove the tank or lay the bike on its side. I did mine when the tank was full, and simply drained the fuel in the pump side of the tank by placing a funnel into a jerry can, and placing the jerry can under the tank and allowing the fuel to drain.

If you are going to fit the pre-filter, it is recommended that you at least clean your filter as mentioned in the blog entry linked above.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 21, 2017, 01:54:30 pm
Christiaan I cant open the link now at work, but is it to clean the standard filters or the guglatech ones?


On the sparkplugs...
None of the local parts stores has them, don't even list them. I got hold of Tracmac where their supplier is out of stock on the one and the others are R470 each. That means I can just as well buy from KTM.

At the moment I am waiting for them to finish assessing and then quote for the repairs on my bike. Then I will see what is my options after the insurance replies.

I am currently completely bike-less at home. Not a happy thought!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChristiaanJ on August 21, 2017, 02:04:23 pm
It is a guide to clean your existing filters.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 05, 2017, 10:23:34 am
Thought I would update my thread, I have been getting lonely lately....

So insurance will pay out, except for excess. Seems like hitting a rock and ending up in the bushes does not count as third party involvement.
Anyhow, major thing with that money is to replace the front rim with the new Akront rim, cant wait to get back to tubeless.

On the KTM to do list:
Replace front rim
Fix steering damper, don't know what was up but it was completely loose, since they are charging R1500 for the fixing I am guessing they will be opening it up, so now they can change to thicker oil while they busy, upgrade I have been meaning to do for a while
Complete 30k km service, plus extra oil filters for next service I will do myself, at R190 a filter its a bargain, also plus brake fluid change, mine is very dark.
Replace front wheel mudguard, it broke as well on impact. (little break)
Replace that small panel or plastic around hooter, cheap at R185

For myself when I get the bike back I will source and fit foldable mirrors and Barkbuster handguards. I don't like the looks of Cycra. I just cant decide between black or white.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on September 06, 2017, 08:02:57 am
Black shows less marks when you let it lie down........... and you know it will at some stage:)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on September 06, 2017, 08:21:59 am
I recon the round option is what i want to get as hand guards do not offer enough space to flip the arrow inwards and leave enough space for levers.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jackol. on September 06, 2017, 03:30:37 pm
Subscribe, with Manic on this thread it is almost like comedy central.   :imaposer:

Nice report Molten. Good luck! you are a very dedicated man to keep updating this thread.  I honestly think that anyone considering a 2013 1190r should read this thread. He will have a clear understanding of exactly what can go wrong as well as what type of abuse he needed for that thing to go wrong!!! Everyone should write a report like this on their bike... :thumleft: Or maybe not...  :pot:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 07, 2017, 10:07:08 am
Subscribe, with Manic on this thread it is almost like comedy central.   :imaposer:

Nice report Molten. Good luck! you are a very dedicated man to keep updating this thread.  I honestly think that anyone considering a 2013 1190r should read this thread. He will have a clear understanding of exactly what can go wrong as well as what type of abuse he needed for that thing to go wrong!!! Everyone should write a report like this on their bike... :thumleft: Or maybe not...  :pot:

Wellllll the bike will defibitely not sell on this forum someday!
My GS's went through similar abuse and the consequent issues. I always thoight I should have kept track then so this time I am doing it. And also getting good inouts advice in the process.



So, back to modding my bike...
I read on facebook, some guy took the oxford heated grip and cut of the controller before connecting directly to the bikes heated grip wiring. Anyone kbow about this? Is it possible? Where is the bike heated grip outlet plug? It would be nice to simplify the wiring a bit.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on September 07, 2017, 10:57:55 am
Behind headlight

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 20, 2017, 09:49:07 am
Update:
Parts finally arrived at KTM! something about them not stocking much anymore and having to import most. Anyhow, everything except for the new front rim, the most important bit! The ETA on the rim is the 20th of Oct.

But I am tired of being without a bike, I will be fetching it next weekend sorted or not, serviced or not. Missing my bike.....
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 02, 2017, 08:01:48 am
Finally got my bike back!

Thought I would share my first experience with KTM services...
So parts took fairly long to arrive imo, but one can live with that. New rim did not come though, its on back order, so I am still stuck with a hateful tube in the front rim.
They were told repeatedly that I would be fetching my bike this Saturday, so I got there and all is well except its not washed. The shavings from helicoil still on the bike but I accept and move on. but then when I wanted to leave I see they have not changed the brake fluid, mine was pretty bad and it had to be done. So they say they will quickly do it, 10minutes turns into 30min with my wife waiting and fuming in the car and they suddenly deciding that for the R16k I spend I should at least get a wash also. I stop the wash half way and we leave. Me not to happy but I will let it fly.

Oh, and another thing, initially I did not want them to change my sparkplugs, but after a week or so contacted them and told them to change them, they never changed the job card. SO the bike was completely stripped for valve clearances but spark plugs not done. They did promise me a good deal on labour next time I get there but that doesn't help me much, I will only be going back in 30k km or if something breaks.

Oh, and in closing my semi-rant to get it all of my chest, the chain was also not oiled.... it is not an issue but with the amount of money I spend I would expect premium service, I got better service from BMW doing R2k services.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: IDR on October 02, 2017, 08:09:00 am
Finally got my bike back!

Thought I would share my first experience with KTM services...
So parts took fairly long to arrive imo, but one can live with that. New rim did not come though, its on back order, so I am still stuck with a hateful tube in the front rim.
They were told repeatedly that I would be fetching my bike this Saturday, so I got there and all is well except its not washed. The shavings from helicoil still on the bike but I accept and move on. but then when I wanted to leave I see they have not changed the brake fluid, mine was pretty bad and it had to be done. So they say they will quickly do it, 10minutes turns into 30min with my wife waiting and fuming in the car and they suddenly deciding that for the R16k I spend I should at least get a wash also. I stop the wash half way and we leave. Me not to happy but I will let it fly.

Oh, and another thing, initially I did not want them to change my sparkplugs, but after a week or so contacted them and told them to change them, they never changed the job card. SO the bike was completely stripped for valve clearances but spark plugs not done. They did promise me a good deal on labour next time I get there but that doesn't help me much, I will only be going back in 30k km or if something breaks.

Oh, and in closing my semi-rant to get it all of my chest, the chain was also not oiled.... it is not an issue but with the amount of money I spend I would expect premium service, I got better service from BMW doing R2k services.

Fucking hell, for 16k I would be livid.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 02, 2017, 08:10:54 am
so on to nicer matters! That picture actually turned out like that per chance. I had no effects or anything in place. I like it.

As part of the stuff done I had them replace the ABS sensor on the rear as well. So far so good and no MTC failure or any other failure. This coming weekend there is the Kalahari Bike challenge in Upington where I will test the offroad traction control in sand a bit which will have the error return if it is still there. Guess we will see.

Still enjoying my bike big time! there is literally nothing I would want to replace it with, and very little I would still replace on it. (Except foldable mirrors and barkbusters! I will be ordering now! almost forgot again)
I know a 1290R is awesome, but imagine falling with it into bushes, scratching your R230k bike up....no thanks. My bike is my pride but it still needs to function as an adventure bike.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 02, 2017, 08:18:25 am
Care to give a break down on costs please.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 02, 2017, 08:28:26 am
Jesus I would have gone totally mental.

Unfortunately KTM dealers (and that counts for most KTM dealers) donít have enforced service standards across the board like BMW. You can go to any BMW and know youíll get a good service most of thr time, irrespective of whether youíre a big spender there.

With KTM, only relationships and money make them notice you enough to give you good service.

I would have insisted that they finish the job, wave the labour and just fetched the bike the next weekend. Only through nailing poor service will the industry change. Itís your duty!  ;D
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 02, 2017, 08:38:01 am
Jesus I would have gone totally mental.

Unfortunately KTM dealers (and that counts for most KTM dealers) don’t have enforced service standards across the board like BMW. You can go to any BMW and know you’ll get a good service most of thr time, irrespective of whether you’re a big spender there.

With KTM, only relationships and money make them notice you enough to give you good service.

I would have insisted that they finish the job, wave the labour and just fetched the bike the next weekend. Only through nailing poor service will the industry change. It’s your duty!  ;D

Its 400km for me. The other option is Klerksdorp KTM also 400km. Which is why I will be doing as much as possible of the stuff myself.

My stepfather says I should have them send a technician to Kathu. He was once unhappy with a service by Harley Davidson in Jhb, the next morning when he woke up in Kimberley their service truck was waiting to sort out the issues. Old school customer care that!

I am considering sending the owner a mail, just give a quick factual run down on my experience. But I cant gain much except raising my blood pressure. I still have to get my wheel back to them for relacing of the new rim, so they will still be getting a lot of remarks wrt the service I got.



Unrelated, activating the self cancelling indicators is R540! that's crazy, but not only that the whole concept is wrong. My 2008 GS had it. My 2005 Harley sportster with no ABS, no electronics actually, has it. I refuse to pay for it. I am used to having it so its a big pain to me.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 02, 2017, 08:47:51 am
Write the owner an email - If he is worth his salt he will not only address the issue but compensate you in some way for the inconvenience.

Thatís the only way these okes will learn.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 02, 2017, 08:50:46 am
Self cancelling is a "extra" at factory level much like 1290's additional functions need to be unlocked

Probably be able to find some hack on internet
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 03, 2017, 09:22:33 pm
The dealership convinced me the 'looseness' of my head unit was loose front panels, but its not and I still need to adress it. The whole head unit has a lot of play. Riding it seems like even the front indicators is loose.
I tried to take a video but its not very clear. I need some advice, what can it be? A quick fix hopefully?

I will start a new thread for this as well, to get more eyes on it.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on October 04, 2017, 06:25:09 am
The dealership convinced me the 'looseness' of my head unit was loose front panels, but its not and I still need to adress it. The whole head unit has a lot of play. Riding it seems like even the front indicators is loose.
I tried to take a video but its not very clear. I need some advice, what can it be? A quick fix hopefully?

I will start a new thread for this as well, to get more eyes on it.



This is going to sound seriously stupid, but... on my Honda Tornado almost everything is fitted with rubber spacers over a sort of steel tube that extends from a steel washer. Over time the rubber spacers lost some of its rubberness and I had to put some washers/spacers to get the rubber to be under compression again. I had to do this for the license plate holder, oil cooler and petrol tank.

Het jy dalk n tipe van n skematiese uitleg van die head unit gedeelte? Dan kan n man dalk daar iets sien.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 04, 2017, 06:41:53 am
(http://50.249.93.75/munnracing/catalog/2014/136031430.png)

(http://50.249.93.75/munnracing/catalog/2014/136030815.png)

It's a combination of the 10000000000000000000000000000000  nuts/bolts /fasteners we have on these bikes of ours

 :lol8:

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 04, 2017, 06:54:05 am
zoom link

http://www.babbittsktmparts.com/oemparts/a/ktm/580fe1a1eb0bed47009c87ff/instruments-lock-system
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on October 04, 2017, 09:47:25 am
Nou het julle my totaal en al verloor  :o

But from the first pic I can make out that 15 and 19 are rubber grommits/mounts. Is this also the bolts used for mounting the head unit to the bike?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on October 04, 2017, 10:33:52 am
(http://50.249.93.75/munnracing/catalog/2014/136031430.png)

(http://50.249.93.75/munnracing/catalog/2014/136030815.png)

It's a combination of the 10000000000000000000000000000000  nuts/bolts /fasteners we have on these bikes of ours

 :lol8:

there is 4 bolts (no:20) that went loose on my first offroad outing. I repaced them with normal bolts with a head that can be tightened with a 8 spanner. Never had problems again. I do check them every 4 months or so just to make sure!
These bolts are situated on boths sides of the ignition cover.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 06, 2017, 11:53:21 am
Bolts of number 20 is in place on my bike. I haven't tried making them even tighter so will do that still. I checked around as much I can without stripping and did not see anything amiss, very disconcerting. So I will do my ride this weekend, hopefully it gets back in one piece.

On my service received, I have send the owner an email stating why I am unhappy two days ago, no answer as yet. I had a hard time to make a half-assed temp fix on my crashbars yesterday so I was not happy at all. The chain is also very loose, it was not checked at all.
Currently I have paid for the replacement rim which is still due, I am very keen to just say I want my money back. If the owner gives me lip then I will definitely.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 06, 2017, 12:41:23 pm
2016 rim ?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 06, 2017, 01:45:33 pm
yes 2017 rim. same as 1090 or 1290 have.
The part number changed, its the replacement rim now.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 06, 2017, 03:09:34 pm
? $
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 01:04:56 pm
@armpump I was quoted and already paid before it was received:

RIM 2.5X21"     R3855
EWBUILD RIM  R 700
Tyre fitment + Balance   R100
GASKET RUBBER 2.5X21"  R500
RIM Band 21     R255

that is in total R5410 just a little less than a complete DID dirtstar would have cost and I am not to sure it will be strong enough. But at least I keep tubeless...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 01:59:18 pm
onwards with the tale of my bike!

So we had a hard day's riding this Saturday at the Kalahari Bike Challenge. Did some medium fast gravel and then some very bad roads. It was about 40km of red roads but I would say its rather a red tinted orange route.
I really enjoyed the 1190 again, still very happy with my suspension upgrade although I can see more and more scratches inside the rear wheel arch but I would guess this is more due to the wrong tyre size I have fitted.

My head unit survived, which brings me back to thinking it worn mountings and not something broken or lost. While standing I don't see it move so much so that helped me not to criticize my bike the whole ride!

Question: Unstable at speed, do I add or remove rear rebound? I have made it better by changing some suspension settings previously but would like it dialled in a little more.

And then...
you know how one can be mad at others, but I can be absolutely livid at myself when I screw up..... I was livid....
Loading my bike on the trailer I saw another bracket got lost. This has me swearing at KTM again, 300km gravel and more parts fall of the bike because they screwed up, but now I am more mad at myself because I should have tightened them after the first one fell off. SO I continue on autopilot and load and tighten the bike....
20km later I notice something off.... check second picture. Stupid me still fastened the bike using the crashbars! Now I have a bent crashbar and the weak bracket I fitted on the other mounting point with huge effort broke. And all this is so unnecessary.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 02:16:44 pm
Molten please for the love of all things orange and beautiful close this thread - Itís actually becoming a joke and equally upsetting :'( This reads like a bike that was a write-off and was repaired and now all the gremlins are coming out :lol8:

The shit never stops with you and this bike!

Bad omens here! Bly weg satan!!

Voorspoed tjom.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Omninorm on October 09, 2017, 02:19:59 pm
I like reading the first post then the last few posts.  :biggrin:
I have also now got another orange. So I will probably comiserate soon, don't worry.   :ricky:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 09, 2017, 02:27:01 pm
@Renrew sell him your SE


Eish Molten..................... daai pill

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 02:47:43 pm
Hehe Renrew, Its not that bad. Loads of these kinds of stuff pops up with my friends on GS's and on 990's so I am not to worried. If you use something this hard constant maintenance will be necessary. I was just thinking of friends that had to remove their swingarm and q20 the chain-setting-bolt as it was stuck and near to stripped. I believe just about all of the weak points on my bike have been addressed. I would literally not swop for a 1090 or 1290 now. I still love my bike.

my bike vs 1290
1290 is to expensive to use

my bike vs 1090
its a downgrade.

my bike vs SE
SE is old plus I am married to this one now, I wont be able to recover much of the money invested so need to use the money first.

Please make no mistake, I have a lot of opinions, but on my own stuff and myself I have the most stringent critique (dink ek verkrag engels hier....) so please try to read deeper into the thread than just taking the complaints at face value. (also, I bought this bike from Manic and now there has been some issues, none of this have been due to his ownership and I would gladly buy from him again. Its a pity he was not using the bike harder offroad actually, that would have saved me money!)
Oh, side note, my 1190 has not left me stranded next to the road as yet, my GS has (shaft failure)
So its still got that going for it which is nice.... :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 09, 2017, 03:10:55 pm
Please check your chain and sprockets .............. lol
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 03:13:58 pm
Donít get me wrong, I envy your attitude! No jokes.

Agree with everything youíre saying except the SE part, a clean one will serve your purposes 90% better than the 1190R. To me my 990R makes the 1190R feel like a donkey, and my SE makes the 990R feel like the HMS Bism. Old has nothing to do with it unless youíre talking about a 19foertsek africa twin that isnít really competitive in the modern age.

But yeah, doing this stuff with big bikes is going to bring out big issues with the best of bikes!

And yes, you have to go with the 1190 and make the money sweat bud!

Youíve gone full-retard with it, now you need to see it through ;)

Ek se jou, daai neer bliksem met die bike deur Manic moes n effek gehad het, selfs al was hy herstel.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 03:16:12 pm
How do you perceive the 1190 reliability and ďtoughnessĒ compared to the oil tanker softroader GS?

Offroad they canít compete, but interested in how tough they are...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 03:20:30 pm
@Renrew sell him your SE


Eish Molten..................... daai pill

Take that back RIGHT NOW!

Besides, there isnít enough Reserve Bank backed rands to afford buying the SE :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 03:57:36 pm
I ride with Philip a lot, he owns a 2004 (I think) 950 and not even the S. He has had a lot less issues than I have, so I do not look down on older stuff. The thing is they feel old. I have the GS background and not an Enduro bike background. I did not grow up on scramblers. I do not feel at home on an overgrown scrambler, but I have no illusions about them being a lot more capable than the big 1190.

So, on the oil tanker. Well I kitted mine out a lot as well, and the second one I bought kitted out. Both had a hard life and was showing it. But honestly I cant say. On my GS the only things that broke was the things I fitted. Adv screen kept coming loose on the GS, aftermarket topbox rack bend over once from being overloaded on a round-Lesotho pillion trip, stuff like that.
On the 1190 I had to quit 700km into my iron butt ride attempt on gravel. On the GS I crashed hard a 1000km into the iron butt ride and still finished the last 600km. (went of the road and hit deep sand bank, bike somersaulted, windscreen and stuffs broken but it could go on). The 1190 required a suspension upgrade to do the same. I have burned the clutch on Old mill drift route on the GS that its stuck in first, in a cloud of clutch smoke. got of the bike and helped the others, got on again and it was fine again, I am not to sure the 1190 can take abuse like that, neither can the LC. Then the 1190 has the air filter issue as well while you can go buy a random GS Adv now and ride gravel highways with the occasional hard hits all the way to Etosha, no mods needed.

That being said, the final drive is a time bomb. Mine went at 55000km. (I rode my first GS from 17k to 78k km in 2 years) and that aluminium head unit bracket also likes to break.
SO, in conclusion there is no conclusion. But if I cant do a trip soon without having to fix or tweak something before going then there will be a conclusion....
Oh, and the popularity of the GS is a huge gain in terms of secondhand parts availability!


I am rather happy on my 1190, kitted in full BMW twat suit :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 04:58:03 pm
Interesting and valid points!

Also get the impression that the GS1200 (definitely not the 800 delivery bike) is quite tough all-round. Not talking about the inherent final drive durability/longevity though. I actually quite like the GS - Digg the look and allround quality of the bike, just handles like a tourbus though, but pretty good for something that size to be fair.

Why donít you fix the bike up, get it clean and gooi on gumtree - Get the most you possibly can and buy a 701 or 690? I mean to have a massive bike for the odd occasion where you do 800km hauls in one day doesnít make sense?

Iím in a similar boat and wanting to do some more multi day Bots/Mozam/Zim trips and no flipping way Iím going to risk my trips and bikes in africa - So decided on getting a 500 with long range tank for a light DS setup. I prefer super tech trips anyway so just suits me at the moment. I also enjoy taking the big bikes into monster trails and routes, but the probability and cost of coming down/damage is so high that it almost makes it less fun.

I recall us discussing the whole trailering your bike somewhere and ridig hard and staying in a B&B - And this is the same. I want to be able to ride anywhere and as hard as my skill will allow WITHOUT having to worry about damaging the bike with crazy cost repercussions.

I get that you need to sweat the bike, but consider cutting some minor losses in the interest of future costs saved! Not to mention how much more youíll enjoy a smaller bike dude.

Perhaps because you donít have an enduro background you are underestimating how much better a decision a smaller bike would be and what a difference it can make to your riding and enjoyment? I almost get the sense that you would have been in a far better situation now if you had just gotten a smaller bike after your first GS... Both ito enjoyment and costs.

Miskien raak ek net te diep so laat in die middag :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 07:10:47 pm
Ja hopeloos te diep! Haha

I like the scenario/needs/requirements discussions. My bike is not that beaten up currently, I just removed the upper crashbars so its fixed again accepth for the loose head unit the untrained eye wouldnt see. And while I just did a route that was partly more suited to a 500, the tough pieces was still fun. But the easier pieces was also fun. I also enjoy a nice tar pass as well. Combine that with staying in the Kalahari most of my riding options require a few 100km commute to do and I would like to enjoy that as well.

While I would love a 701 the time is not right. I would love to do Kaokoland and the like someday, but unfortunately it will still be a while before that happens. I have 2 little children and a wife with a proper carreer as well. She requires a break just as much as I do sometimes so my getaways is a logistical nightmare every time.

To take it further I did once buy a 660xt to learn sand riding on. But the shocks had to be serviced right when I was going on a sand focused course so I was forced to go with the GS. And there I saw thick sand is possible on the fat pig. I sold the XT when I got home, just about unridden.

I am busy fixing up a third GS to sell it. Then I will get a 300 2stroke. I want to learn to wheelie!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 09, 2017, 07:18:28 pm
I did not mention yet!
Friday I fitted barkbusters and the foldable mirrors! Now I am just about done, there is not much the bike still needs to do proper adventure trips, anywhere.

Oh accept to still fit the petrol pre filter. I have been lazy
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 09, 2017, 09:18:16 pm
Bike looks cool :thumleft: except for that handlebar bag ;)

Didnít take you long to fix that crashbar :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 10, 2017, 07:54:15 am
I used a tankbag in the past and loved it, but this time round I thought I would save a few bucks and also thought it more practical to get the handlebar bag. The tankbags just do not look right for me on the 1190 but that's personal taste. so far I am happy with my handlebar bag.

I thought I would attach pics of my previous 2 GS's I mentioned.
The blue GS was the start of my adventure riding, its taken huge shots as well. a 2008 I bought in iirc 2012 with 17500km on. Sold 2 years later with 75k km on.
The yellow GSA was a friends bike, I got it for a very good price with the intend to just sell it at a profit but ended up keeping it and selling the blue GS after some sleepless nights. My blue GS was family and in much better shape, but the the yellow one was a 2011 so had some little upgrades plus a huge upgrade wrt suspension. This was my first realisation what difference a proper suspension makes. I bought it with 70k km on and sold at 78k km.

For a few months I had the yellow GSA and 1190 both and would ride them back to back frequently. I fitted the scott damper I had on the blue GS to the GSA so it was very planted. I remember hitting bad gravel at speed and the GSA just sitting rock solid while the 1190 was very lively, handlebars twisting and such, with me thinking this is actually nice. If the GSA was so loose I would have had to change pants, but with the 1190 you still felt in control and actually enjoyed it.
I did sell the yellow GSA at profit, even after a R10k repair bill to fix amongst others a crankshaft oil leak. It really did have a hard life that poor bike.
I remember once loading it on the trailer and almost loaded it fell away from me, a flippen hard fall. Just broke a footpeg we welded back on and it was fine.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 17, 2017, 08:37:07 am
So, I have sent a mail to the owner of Orange County explaining the service I received, requesting at least a sorry from them. No answer.
I was willing to let it go but lost another bracket, so I was fuming and forwarded said email to the salesman who replied that he will make sure the boss gets it. No reply a week later now.

So question, is it worth it? I let a lot of stuff just go as I believe you just work yourself up for no gain. Would you guys take this further or stick to good relations with the dealership more favourably located to me?

Taking it further is easy in this case, I already paid for the front rim which was on back order, Labour and all I can  request them to pay me back the roughly R6k. I will have to post my wheel there anyhow so can just as well post it to any other dealership. I think continuing to make a big deal out of this will only upset me most with them barely noticing.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 17, 2017, 09:48:53 am
Do NOT leave it.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 17, 2017, 10:56:03 am
You cannot leave it, he solution is simple.

Tell them that you will have no choice to report this to KTM SA if you donít receive a response with some form of compensation for the poor service.

But first, call them and get him on the line and ask that he responds to your complaint.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on October 17, 2017, 11:12:50 am
You cannot leave it, he solution is simple.

Tell them that you will have no choice to report this to KTM SA if you donít receive a response with some form of compensation for the poor service.

But first, call them and get him on the line and ask that he responds to your complaint.

Best is probably to phone and ask for a response to your email. Then forward the previous email to him and add something like "as discussed, bla bla bla". If he then still does buggerall you have on record that you tried to contact him and can then forward the same email to KTM SA.

Personally I think this might just lead to some form of confrontation and I don't like confrontation, but in your case you have in a way lost money through their crappy service (repair/replacement of crashbars).

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on October 17, 2017, 11:59:41 am
if the issue is only about the two crashbar brackets not fitted tightly enough, I personally would probably drop it
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 17, 2017, 01:02:56 pm
Here the problem i have with bracket issue.

You now need to order a non stock item and wait for it to arrive

So you remove top bar so it does not rattle around and murphy raises his ugly head.

Suddenly you now sit with a damaged tank etc etc which could of been avoided if they had just taken care.

Ps read the fine print on workshop job card 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 17, 2017, 07:11:44 pm
Re KTM service: Just when I had to make a call and request my money back, I got a call this afternoon from David the owner. He was apologetic and said he will give me a complementary service if I would be willing to give them another chance. A fair response. I just wanted an apology so now I am content again and rate it settled.
(I will get worked up again later when I look at the crashbars in the corner of the garage...not on the bike...)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 17, 2017, 07:13:35 pm
Next issue to sort, the loose head unit.
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=215851.0
(link to separate discussion on wilddogs, with possible solution. For reference purposes)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 17, 2017, 07:23:08 pm
MOLTEn, the first thing you need to do is take that GPS off where it is. That mounting point exerts massive torque on the head unit, that weakens trhe entire assembly over time AND you canít see shit when riding because of the movement.

Get a handlebar clamp mount from bikegear - The one that actually screws into the handlebar brackets/stem.

I tried and tried and itís just a crap design, so moved my gps to the clamps.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 17, 2017, 09:00:15 pm
Thanks Renrew, I agree, will look into it.
I have gone though all the stuff Bikegear offers before but never noticed these. Now I will have to decide whether I want to keep my handlebar bag or not. I am not to keen on getting a tankbag again.
nice solution though. I take it it is this one..
https://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-detachable-cockpit-gps-mount-ktm-690950990bmw-650xchallange/
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 17, 2017, 09:06:27 pm
Yup, thatís the one option, there exist a couple others also a believe.

Also consider putting directly on your handlebars, to the left. That way you might have space for the fannypackhandlebar bag ;) and the gps. Itís also DEAL solid there and you can interact with your gps easily on the left.

But yeah, when you fix the plastic assembly, move the gps.

Tankbag - Get a giantloop Diablo Pro, AWESOME tankbag, nice and small and totally out the way. :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 18, 2017, 07:42:18 am
Do those "strap on type tank bags" not scratch the tank covers when dust and rain mix Renrew ?

 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 18, 2017, 07:56:45 am
Thanks Renrew, I agree, will look into it.
I have gone though all the stuff Bikegear offers before but never noticed these. Now I will have to decide whether I want to keep my handlebar bag or not. I am not to keen on getting a tankbag again.
nice solution though. I take it it is this one..
https://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-detachable-cockpit-gps-mount-ktm-690950990bmw-650xchallange/


Check this one Molten


https://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-vibration-dampened-gps-mount-22mm/

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 18, 2017, 07:57:28 am
Do those "strap on type tank bags" not scratch the tank covers when dust and rain mix Renrew ?

 

Previous owner on previous GS had a touratech one which scratched the tank. I wont consider one if does not work with the quick release ring.
Also noticed no pics where the giant loop bag was a quick release setup, but I did not look at a catalogue so thought it was still possible. Much the same as the normal Bagsconnection tankbag, which I am familiar with and rate highly (actually on the blue GS in previous pic)


random internet pic of Giantloop bag in question, it does look nice
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 18, 2017, 08:08:44 am
Soek die een vir my 1190  :thumleft:

(http://static.twisted-throttle.net/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/28496d0a14ec004b76332fd2427e3099/b/c/bc_trs_00_107_20000_2_xl_web.jpg)




Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 18, 2017, 08:58:49 am
Totally agree though, they do scratch the tank, didnít think you would mind. I did, which is why I used it once on my SE. The 1190R had tank decals so couldnít scratch it.

But yeah, quick release is awesome, agreed!

Kry hom pompie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 18, 2017, 09:58:15 am
Terwyl jy nou besig is, vervang sommer daai cheap oxford heated grips met die real deal. Daai oxford heated grips fok lelik rond op mens en daai Mission Control adapter op die handlebar lyk sommer kak ;)

die powerparts outjie is baie meer betroubaar en geintegreer, vat wel 20% langer om te stel op n 1 sekonde beweging :lol8:

As ek so n premium fiets sien met fokken oxford heated grips wil ek in my mondjie opgooi!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 18, 2017, 10:20:23 am
Totally agree though, they do scratch the tank, didnít think you would mind.

Hoor nou net!

I complain a lot, does not mean I ride a beat up fugly.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 18, 2017, 10:21:56 am
I actually have a plan with those oxfords. Seems like they can be connected straight on the bikes standard connections. Removing the oxford control. Still have to verify this though
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on October 18, 2017, 10:26:08 am
I actually have a plan with those oxfords. Seems like they can be connected straight on the bikes standard connections. Removing the oxford control. Still have to verify this though

Lyk my jy hou van rondfok :lol8:

Jy gaan jou day-job moet bedank en voltyds onderneem om aan jou bike te werk!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on October 18, 2017, 10:45:24 am
I actually have a plan with those oxfords. Seems like they can be connected straight on the bikes standard connections. Removing the oxford control. Still have to verify this though

http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/ktm-1190-and-1190r-owners-show-us-your-bikes.860439/page-29#post-23313048
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on October 18, 2017, 12:46:27 pm
I actually have a plan with those oxfords. Seems like they can be connected straight on the bikes standard connections. Removing the oxford control. Still have to verify this though

should work perfectly without the oxford controller - the KTM grips are about 10 Ohm per grip, i.e. 5 Ohm when both connected in parallel
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 18, 2017, 01:23:44 pm
Renrew I see nothing wrong with saving R2k and in exchange for doing an hours work, if the Oxfords work then they work, the bike has a purpose and its not to shine behind some lights in a glass case.

armpump I don't know how you do it, if you just searched for that link or have a huge database somewhere. But thanks. Seems very straightforward. I just need some time to work on my bike now.

I am having screws removed out of my leg tomorrow. I broke it a year ago. So here is to hoping to be booked off for a few days but to still be physically capable to work on the bike.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: DJLSteenkamp on October 18, 2017, 03:29:09 pm
Hi molt3n

Good job, nou kan ek al jou issues gebruik om my vrou te ooreed dat ek maar nog paar R op my bike kan spandeer.

1 vraag: met al die issues wat jy op jou bike gehaat het na die diens by KTM, hoe weet jy jou valve clearances is gedoen en is dit reg gedoen? Gooi seker petrol op die vlamme.
En nou wil hulle hom vir jou verniet diens? Se hulle kan die diens los en liewers vir jou n stel tyres gee, hulle kan dit nie opneek nie.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Omninorm on October 19, 2017, 09:15:56 am
Hi molt3n

Good job, nou kan ek al jou issues gebruik om my vrou te ooreed dat ek maar nog paar R op my bike kan spandeer.

1 vraag: met al die issues wat jy op jou bike gehaat het na die diens by KTM, hoe weet jy jou valve clearances is gedoen en is dit reg gedoen? Gooi seker petrol op die vlamme.
En nou wil hulle hom vir jou verniet diens? Se hulle kan die diens los en liewers vir jou n stel tyres gee, hulle kan dit nie opneek nie.

Ek en Steenkamp dink dieselfde oor goed.   :patch:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 19, 2017, 11:14:37 am
Ja stook maar die vuur. Eerste dag toe ek die bike drop toe wys die man my n 1190 in die hoek. In vir valve clearances 3000km na hulle dit gedoen het op diens, sy opmerking was dat dit baie maklik kan uit gaan, my gedagtes was- klink eerder of julle aangejaag het.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on October 19, 2017, 11:36:35 am
Ja stook maar die vuur. Eerste dag toe ek die bike drop toe wys die man my n 1190 in die hoek. In vir valve clearances 3000km na hulle dit gedoen het op diens, sy opmerking was dat dit baie maklik kan uit gaan, my gedagtes was- klink eerder of julle aangejaag het.

ek begin wonder of daai gratis diens kompensasie of straf is  ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on October 19, 2017, 02:41:17 pm
Ja stook maar die vuur. Eerste dag toe ek die bike drop toe wys die man my n 1190 in die hoek. In vir valve clearances 3000km na hulle dit gedoen het op diens, sy opmerking was dat dit baie maklik kan uit gaan, my gedagtes was- klink eerder of julle aangejaag het.

Hoeveel moeiliker kan dit wees as op my gewese Nissan 1400? Bring die ding dan doen ek dit gou vir jou  :pot: :peepwall:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: DJLSteenkamp on October 31, 2017, 08:00:33 am
Jyt 11 dae laas iets aan jou bike gedoen? beteken dit nou dat al die issues uit gesort is en dan ons niks meer gaan kan lees oor jou 1190 Love/Hate relationship nie?

Of is jy net a lazy guy?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 31, 2017, 08:47:03 am
Jyt 11 dae laas iets aan jou bike gedoen? beteken dit nou dat al die issues uit gesort is en dan ons niks meer gaan kan lees oor jou 1190 Love/Hate relationship nie?

Of is jy net a lazy guy?


Daar sal altyd issues wees moenie daaroor worry nie. Ek sal issues kan skep op n 1400 corolla, en die 1190 het meer perde. (te lui om te check, maar dink hy het tot meer as n 2l! haha)


I have since tightened the head unit bolts. one was lose and another stripped so its only a temporary fix. I will look into it some other time when the unit goes loose again, strip and strengthen.
I also just got feedback from Bikegear regarding replacing the crashbar brackets. One option is having it flown in and the other is receiving it with their next shipment from Germany. That being end April 2018! I have requested the price for both options (why does one have to even ask for a price...)

Yesterday I started planning a day ride and shared it with a buddy. Upon his reply I only noticed it will be 1300km for the day. Damn. So I will have to make another plan. I want to ride the 2spoor on the Botswana border.

My rim have arrived at KTM, so next up on the tale of my bike is to remove front wheel and send to KTM. Cant wait to be back to tubeless.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: DJLSteenkamp on November 10, 2017, 07:39:12 am
Het jy dam nog die bike?

Weet jy was af vir n week na die been ding so jy moes iets aan die bike gedoen het?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on November 10, 2017, 07:49:28 am
Het jy dam nog die bike?

Weet jy was af vir n week na die been ding so jy moes iets aan die bike gedoen het?

Hy was te besig om goed pienk te verf  :peepwall:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on November 15, 2017, 08:24:06 am
my vrou nie happy met haar mooi gerestoreerde pienk pik nie. ondankbaar as jy my vra.

Voorwiel gepos na KTM, volgende op die kaarte is daai fuel pre filter fit, en ek het n bad fuel dongle ook vir baie goeie prys gekry, moet hom ook fit. sien uit om settings te kan behou!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 10, 2017, 07:04:33 pm
Guys, are there any youtube clips or tips somewhere on installing the rubber band in the rim for tubeless? I forgot to send the rubber gasket back with the rim and tps so they did not remind me or ask about it, and reckoned I went through all this trouble just so that I can stick to riding with tubes. Oh, and the tyre pressure sensor also did not come back.

I am furious, but mostly with myself....

And Philip who was buying scrambler panels with me, I think they got his order now wrong for the 3rd time
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on December 10, 2017, 07:24:15 pm
https://youtu.be/--Ucwqhd0tI
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 10, 2017, 09:38:05 pm
https://youtu.be/--Ucwqhd0tI

Thanks, I saw that, but I dont know how the inner rubber liner gets glued or vulcanised in place :(
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 24, 2017, 09:27:48 pm
Merry Christmas all!

Okay so between postnet and KTM my tyre pressure sensor is missing. There is a common denominator here but I am tired of them featuring here or in my life so I will attempt sorting the tubeless functionality on my rim myself. Fortunately I did also get those cheapy ebay tps sensors so this is what a backup is for. They will not he seeing me or any of my money again.

But I will only be able to give attention again to my bike in the new year again. Currently on holidays with tbe family, but still aiming for the gravel routes driving my works bakkie and camping in a bush trailer.

Here is a thread I found very similar to my own.
http://www.ozadventurerider.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=3529
Huge focus on the shocks, revalving and shims setup. A good read but I dont think I would have felt the little differences the writer mentions. I just know my bike handles loads better than the GS and while it did bottom some on the Lesotho ride I just increased comp and rebound and it didnt bottom anymore. Problem sorted while still riding a lot softer than my friend's 990. I could make it even stiffer but dont see the use when its not bottoming.

Currently I am very close to Baviaans, wish I had my bike here!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on January 22, 2018, 12:35:17 pm
I started getting productive again. planning to do a day trip coming weekend.

I had a mission where the replacement TPS I wanted to fit did not come with a nut to fit it. I am guessing as normally they are supposed to replace a broken part and not a 'thrown away' part.
Turns out this nut is not so readily available, 10mm with 0.9 thread. Hopefully I have the correct one currently on its way.

Then over the weekend I finally got to fit the petrol pre filter. Havent tested it yet but its in!
Fitted an offroad fuel dongle, no more forgetting settings when riding offroad.
Fitted fork socks. From experience and what I have read the KTM seals are not very good, so hopefully these will close that chapter.

I wanted to replace the broken horn panel but then decided to check up on my stearing damper. Bad idea...got me fuming again!
When I took the bike in for repairs I wanted them to address the stearing damper as well, it was very loose on the ball socket it was mounted to. I asked if its okay and for them to add it for insurance to sort. Then I asked them to increase the oil weight, do that well known upgrade iow. So, they charged me R1500 for this and its exactly like it was. Useless! I intend to change the oil this afternoon, another thing sorted then.

Then I also found one of the rubbers holding the tank in place had lost its bolt. Thanks KTM. couldn't understand why the tank was so loose on the one side so now I can sort that as well. And on the other side another bolt was about to fall out on the tank as well.
My son fixed his bike as well! Explainimg in big detail how much the bike van hirt him if it was to fall over

Now just hoping to get that TPS in time for the weekend, I am not very keen to refit the tube.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on January 22, 2018, 02:29:42 pm
Love the kids tool set and trolly :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on January 22, 2018, 02:44:49 pm
Ek sien nou hoe die mannetjie kan dink motorfiets eienaarskap gaan meer oor die hoeveelheid tyd wat jy spandeer om daaraan te werk  :peepwall:

Maar lyk of KTM jou regtig ingedoen het. Glad nie goeie diens nie
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 20, 2018, 01:53:11 pm
So prepping for Namakwa 4x4 trip in March. I have to change tyres and fix my loose head unit. There is more to it than what has been discussed already.

Got my new tyres and like the look of them. Anakees Wild front and a Anlas for the rear. Its basically the combo I like most out of the options I had.

Started fitting the front yesterday and decided to give tubeless another go. Swopped out the internal rubber band for a new one and everything seemed to be fine. Swopped the tyre and it was hell!  That anakees is hard, not a quick road side repair. Eventually had it on but the rim is still leaking! Wasted effort and I don't know what is still wrong. KTM truly have a shit tubeless system! Fitting a tube now, then will put some slime in to prevent punctures. Not changing that one next to the road. I am new to slime so expect some questions on it soon....

Pic of tyres and tubeless rim redo.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on February 20, 2018, 03:13:03 pm
On the tubeless thing.

I know guys with enduro bikes used to figure out ways of sealing the spokes and going tubless.  Using waterproofing tape and silcone and stuff.  Wonder if that wouldn't help?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: bud500 on February 20, 2018, 03:24:44 pm
On the tubeless thing.

I know guys with enduro bikes used to figure out ways of sealing the spokes and going tubless.  Using waterproofing tape and silcone and stuff.  Wonder if that wouldn't help?

Guys also used Sicaflex, I think.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 20, 2018, 03:53:55 pm
check tpms seal
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 20, 2018, 03:57:40 pm
Oh and CLEAN the rim.............NO dust or dirt

:)

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 20, 2018, 04:11:46 pm
mmm, I see I did not update my last outing on the bike.
If you thought I have had drama in the past, you aint seen nothing yet. I will update later, it involves changing tyres MULTIPLE times and calling mommy for a lift at 1am....
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 20, 2018, 04:16:00 pm
Possible problem to look out for

(https://jhannesson.smugmug.com/Bike-shop-pics/i-mJSGNF5/0/X2/IMG_0958-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 21, 2018, 06:14:20 am
Hi Armpump, remember my fav stealership threw my TPS away, I am using a new one. I would like to know how that happened though?


So our previous trip I tried to get the tubeless to work. In the week buildup to our ride I made sure the rubber is in place for probably 6 times. Tyre lever removing the tyre everytime, everytime it would leak again and every time I would find a possible culprit again. eventually I gave up and fitted a tube....but

I pinched the tube. Then I fitted my backup tube and that also pinched. So time was running out and I patched 9 holes that night...
On the trip the patches lasted 160km before one came off. fitted my backup tube and pinched it. Fortunately Philip saw what I was doing wrong and it was the end of pinching for the day,  but the damage was done. Unfortunately though the patches held well to the next town and we also managed to stock up on plenty more patches, nice big ones, so we decided to continue with the major part of the trip, rather than calling it quits like we should have done.
THis was Van Zylsrus, so we continued via the Botswana border (1/2 was 2 spoor, 1/2 good road) to Askham/ Molopo lodge, about 200km and with the tyre suddenly going flat again as we pulled in to Molopo lodge. This was 6pm, we patched and on the return had 5 more flats in quick succession before just riding on the flat till the wire of the wheel came out. This was 11pm in the middle of nowhere. Philip gave me a lift for about 170km more before he ran out of petrol. 1am, 30km before Olifantshoek, little traffic and no one stops. so we called mommy to fetch me and bring petrol, got back, got the bakkie and trailer to fetch my bike, a very tiring all nighter. Still better than a day in office.

Thats my embarassing story explaining why I am not keen on troubleshooting the tubeless. I have become pretty proficient with tyre levers but that Wild is a lot tougher to work on than the previous E09, and I am over it.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 21, 2018, 07:12:41 am
(https://scontent.fjnb7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20620899_481545405541644_2853468832414284079_n.jpg?oh=8c656a9ac5ef775a05c9491b363d7632&oe=5B0AD92E)

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 21, 2018, 07:32:26 am
Never done one myself but seems spoke nipple liner protector gets glued in ?

And then seal channel needs to be super clean so it seats properly (presume same for front)



TPMS seal obviously also important

 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 21, 2018, 08:57:53 pm
thanks Armpump for the video.
My tyre is unfortunately back on with a tube. Tyre fitment center could not sort it out. Seems like the tyre rubs against that rubber gasket and pulls it clear of its bead. But I was not expecting success so have peace wit the heavy duty tube in. Rear is still tubeless.

In other news. My stearing damper was very loose on its bracket and I thought it shouldnt be. So while the bike was at my fav stealership I had them "repair" it and also fit the 20W oil. Well, they charged me R1600, did not fit the thicker oil nor fix the loose bracket. So I went about replacing the oil myself. Buuuuut I struggled to get the seal out and ended up hitting it wiht a hammer to get it out. Finished up but found the pivot ball thingy came out. Put the ball in the fridge and heated up the other part and it came bac together only to separate again on the trip.

So I got a Hyperpro for a good price and installed it today! Cant wait to test it.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Cracker on February 21, 2018, 11:22:09 pm
Wow!!, molt3n, I haven't read your whole thread but you are going through a helluva learning curve on this page alone ........  :o
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 22, 2018, 07:16:21 am
Wow!!, molt3n, I haven't read your whole thread but you are going through a helluva learning curve on this page alone ........  :o

Haha it never stops. But 70% is probably my own fault, myself wanting to upgrade things, upgrades going wrong or me just not wanting to make use of a dealer.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 22, 2018, 08:12:19 am
I need to get a extension before is do service because removing/refit without will be a bitch

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Cd9UF2b9L._SL1000_.jpg)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 22, 2018, 09:05:56 am
I need to get a extension before is do service because removing/refit without will be a bitch


Oil service and such?
I saw a pic on facebook where the guy cut a little hole in the bashplate to allow easy access to the filters. I am considering the same. Will post pics if I ever get to it.
On the other hand...I should not skip on taking the bashplate off every now and again as the bolts tend to rust stuck.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 22, 2018, 09:14:24 am
To remove damper i mean
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 22, 2018, 11:40:23 am
To remove damper i mean

I removed that cover that holds the hooter, just pulled it down and access was okay. Used the one torques bit throughout actually. Grand total of 5 bolts to remove
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 22, 2018, 11:48:31 am
Have looked before and would need extension to get firm purchase
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jackol. on February 23, 2018, 10:31:16 am
thanks Armpump for the video.
My tyre is unfortunately back on with a tube. Tyre fitment center could not sort it out. Seems like the tyre rubs against that rubber gasket and pulls it clear of its bead. But I was not expecting success so have peace wit the heavy duty tube in. Rear is still tubeless.

In other news. My stearing damper was very loose on its bracket and I thought it shouldnt be. So while the bike was at my fav stealership I had them "repair" it and also fit the 20W oil. Well, they charged me R1600, did not fit the thicker oil nor fix the loose bracket. So I went about replacing the oil myself. Buuuuut I struggled to get the seal out and ended up hitting it wiht a hammer to get it out. Finished up but found the pivot ball thingy came out. Put the ball in the fridge and heated up the other part and it came bac together only to separate again on the trip.

So I got a Hyperpro for a good price and installed it today! Cant wait to test it.

With everything that I read in this thread, I really don't know if I will be able to trust your "favourite stealership"  They are closest to me and should be the most convenient dealer that I should take my bike to...  But really...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 23, 2018, 12:24:27 pm
thanks Armpump for the video.
My tyre is unfortunately back on with a tube. Tyre fitment center could not sort it out. Seems like the tyre rubs against that rubber gasket and pulls it clear of its bead. But I was not expecting success so have peace wit the heavy duty tube in. Rear is still tubeless.

In other news. My stearing damper was very loose on its bracket and I thought it shouldnt be. So while the bike was at my fav stealership I had them "repair" it and also fit the 20W oil. Well, they charged me R1600, did not fit the thicker oil nor fix the loose bracket. So I went about replacing the oil myself. Buuuuut I struggled to get the seal out and ended up hitting it wiht a hammer to get it out. Finished up but found the pivot ball thingy came out. Put the ball in the fridge and heated up the other part and it came bac together only to separate again on the trip.

So I got a Hyperpro for a good price and installed it today! Cant wait to test it.

With everything that I read in this thread, I really don't know if I will be able to trust your "favourite stealership"  They are closest to me and should be the most convenient dealer that I should take my bike to...  But really...

You can trust them!  They specialise in character building!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 26, 2018, 09:25:10 am
I had a productive weekend!

Lets start with the Good!

I fitted a Rotweiler intake.
I wasn't really planning to fit one, rather happy with the Unifilter setup. But I was planning to fit some heat reflection under the tank and did have a hotish bum sometimes but nothing to troublesome. But then I managed to get the Rotweiler for cheap and grabbed it. Simpler is better.

The Bad...
The Rotweiler intake does not have an inlet for the SAS system. So the decision was made for me to drop the SAS system. Like I said...simpler is better. But it seems like it wont be to easy to source a blank-off kit in South Africa. I don't have time to import. Know any one making these? (How long does it take to order from Rotweiler?)

The UGLY
Oh man, I have not been looking forward to stripping the front end to see what's going on there. And it was exactly what I feared. The mounts of the head unit was off. I think any 1190 that does a little gravel has an 80% chance of having the same issue. Piss poor design.
So finding the broken mounts gave me mixed feelings, I was happy to find the issue so it can get properly sorted. The loose head unit have been stealing a lot of my confidence in the bike, impacting hugely on my speed. But on the other hand I knew instantly its not going to be a good clean fix. In the end I am very sad at taking a welder to my frame, but it is what it is. It also means there is no way now of selling the bike on the forum again.

BTW, a friend had the same issue and pointed it out to KTM, they wanted to replace the frame. HOW WILL THAT HELP? He traded the bike back to them.

Anyhow, we did a Sonday jobby of it. My father is a boilermaker, so it may not be pretty but it wont break again.
And I still have to refit all the panels, not looking forward to that. This was one of the bigger stripdowns I have done to date.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on February 26, 2018, 12:26:22 pm
Jeezlike.  I've heard of the bolts backing out of the mounts but the mounts actually broke off???
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on February 26, 2018, 12:38:13 pm
Jeezlike.  I've heard of the bolts backing out of the mounts but the mounts actually broke off???

same here, never seen that before - I wonder if it was caused by a crash?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: PHILIPKUHN on February 26, 2018, 12:52:30 pm
Y turn the 12mm to 6mm?? Not very clever KTM!!
Martin has a big windscreen and a GPS mounted, the roads around here is bad. Loads of "zinkplaat".
Every thing mounted to that 2 mounts are plastic, in a crash the plastic would give way.

This is a bad design, according to me.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 26, 2018, 01:37:56 pm
Jeezlike.  I've heard of the bolts backing out of the mounts but the mounts actually broke off???

same here, never seen that before - I wonder if it was caused by a crash?

Had a discussion on Facebook on the topic and got a lot of examples/feedback.
But now you guys know...you will see a lot :)




I need the SAS blanking plates, no one local? Please? I really don't want to go put the standard air box back in. Seems like it takes a 28k ohm resistor but I would rather just get a proper kit.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 01:45:05 pm
(https://s28.postimg.org/totpl4yrh/20170422_133054.jpg)

(https://s23.postimg.org/gl9j370uz/20170422_133943.jpg)

(https://s15.postimg.org/8eo2zllx7/IMG-20170421-_WA0030.jpg)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on February 26, 2018, 01:46:02 pm
Jeezlike.  I've heard of the bolts backing out of the mounts but the mounts actually broke off???

same here, never seen that before - I wonder if it was caused by a crash?

Had a discussion on Facebook on the topic and got a lot of examples/feedback.
But now you guys know...you will see a lot :)




I need the SAS blanking plates, no one local? Please? I really don't want to go put the standard air box back in. Seems like it takes a 28k ohm resistor but I would rather just get a proper kit.

have you tried the better dealers, like RAD?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 26, 2018, 01:51:26 pm
Just spoke to RAD. (actually forgot to call them)
Seems like the KTM kit did not come with the electrical plug until recently. He will call me back, just need to verify with the mechanics if I will be stuck with an annoying engine error or cant ride at all. Then I will live with it till I can source something proper.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 02:01:48 pm
Jy moet meer lees
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 02:07:44 pm
Junior 0215554789 for blanking plates
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 02:25:55 pm
airbox plug also a single 300 ohms resistor like one in o2 eliminator

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 26, 2018, 02:49:31 pm
Jy moet meer lees

Het actually RAD gebel voor Bundu hulle genoem het. Gaan rof hier by werk, maar soos ek verstaan lyk die KTM jobbies nie mooi nie.

Junior gebel. Ek wag net gou vir KTM se kwotasie dan order ek een van die twee.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 03:26:37 pm
They cover most of it here





 
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 26, 2018, 03:45:00 pm


(https://s15.postimg.org/8eo2zllx7/IMG-20170421-_WA0030.jpg)

Where did you get those pipe blanks? I was also planning on something similar but could not figure out what will fit there.
You mentioned a 300ohm resistor. That's correct? Dude on facebook used a 28k ohm which is why I am verifying?

Thanks for the youtube clip. will watch it tonight. This caught me unprepared.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 03:49:52 pm
Google pipe end caps and take cover with to press fit........... i realise you a little far out so might struggle a little.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: armpump on February 26, 2018, 03:55:15 pm
Here you go

http://www.essentracomponents.co.za/
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 13, 2018, 12:43:23 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=221917.0;topicseen

Busy with my latest ride report.

Went a bit extreme but the bike took it very well. I am very happy. There is nothing on the market I would like to replace it with. Even if given a R100 or R200k to spend at KTM I will still walk away with an 1190.

First order of business will be replacing a bolt on my bashplate which fell out. this is the one my favorite stealership had to drill out and fit a helicoil. They had a long list of stuff to do, not many of the items they did that have not popped up again now. They botched just about EVERYTHING.
Never mind, I will be fixing it all myself.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: DJLSteenkamp on March 13, 2018, 01:30:05 pm
Jy moet bike reg kry vir volgende week. Sal jou bietjie KZN gaan wys.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on March 13, 2018, 01:53:46 pm
You are a crazy man you know this right? :biggrin:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 13, 2018, 02:26:07 pm
Jy moet bike reg kry vir volgende week. Sal jou bietjie KZN gaan wys.


jy verstaan nie hoe graag sal ek Jogstrap pas ook daar saam Henk hul wil doen in Lesotho nie. Na hom is daar nie veel moeilike passe oor om te doen nie. nog net Vanzyls pas.
En KZN sou ook lekker wees, sal bietjie vroulief begin sag maak...


You are a crazy man you know this right? :biggrin:

Just slightly, the capabilities of these big bikes is still beyond what we are capable off. Just wish I was a better rider to explore the limits better
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 15, 2018, 08:48:26 am
I have been getting lazy to update tale...

So not much happening. I replaced the tailbag. From the beginning I thought that I liked the black Kaoko more so when I tore the current khaki one it was a good oportunity to replace it. Plus a GSA I have been fixing up for selling did not have any bag or boxes on so I could utilize it there.
And then I also replaced the rear tyre.

Still have to replace the heated grip I tore the wires off. The oxfords had a big price increase from r1200 to r1900 so I was super stoked to come right on Ebay for r450 replacing only the one grip. (Arrived in 15 days! But still need to see if it fit)

The reason for sorting the heated grip:  We have a Lesotho trip due in June!!!! Whoopee, going with Losper so really looking forward to that. Also going to do Jogstrap which have been a pass I wanted to try out for a while now.

But it will also be cold which brought my attention to something else that needs upgrading. My starter.
Guys, don't buy a 2013 1190, if I haven't said so yet, I am saying so now.

I have the weak SM17 starter, they were updated in 2014. I called KTM and they charge R5600 for a new SM13, I managed to find a second hand one for R2500. Really looking forward to fitting it, got a reminder this morning with a struggling cold start that this would have been a real trip spoiler for me.

Other than that, still to do for the trip is replace that bolt on the bash plate that fell out and I have a feeling my neck bearings need tightening again.

I guess its a good thing I still love the bike with all the money its eating up.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 22, 2018, 03:27:15 pm
currently busy installing the upgraded starter. had the SM17 and changing it out for the SM13.

but the more I read the more I worry. Seems like I need to loosen the engine completely so that it will tilt forward to allow access to the starter. Not very excited, but have to do it.
Already finished stripping so next up is the engine! hold thumbs!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on May 22, 2018, 03:41:36 pm
I either missed, or totally forgot that you had a Rottweiller/ITG installed.


Still tempted to get one.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 23, 2018, 08:44:08 am
I either missed, or totally forgot that you had a Rottweiller/ITG installed.


Still tempted to get one.



Yeah got it for a good price so couldn't resist.
cant say there is much of a difference. I didn't have much of a heating issue before or dust in take. So I just took it as insurance and because I am long past being reasonable with money spend on the bike. Wont get my investment back so will have to USE it properly for a while, so can just as well throw everything at it, everything WRT upgrades and WRT trips/rides/bundu bashing


Update:
Heated grips are sorted, works nicely on the OBC now, no more Oxford controller on the handlebars and less wiring in general which I like. The reason for this swop out was because the grips came loose. I glued them in place with Cantact adhesive, that yellow stuff, but I am still concerned that its not the correct choice of glue. Will have to see....
Worked a bit more on getting that starter installed yesterday, sweared a little more at KTM as a bolt on the bash plate stripped and sweared a little more in general because its a proper PITA to do the starter swop out...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on May 23, 2018, 10:26:06 pm
Seeing as you've changed everything on this bike....Ever replaced the actual chain slider on the swingarm?   Mine seems to be at the limit....Any idea what it costs? Looks fairly DIYable.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 24, 2018, 07:54:00 am
Update:
Damn getting that starter out is a mission. There is a T30 bolt that is very difficult to access. It seems like I will have to take off the complete air intake and throttle bodies as well to gain access. Very slow progress and my time is running out.

Seeing as you've changed everything on this bike....Ever replaced the actual chain slider on the swingarm?   Mine seems to be at the limit....Any idea what it costs? Looks fairly DIYable.
Actually read a discussion on this recently. Seems like there is still a lot of the chain guide left even when it gets to the wear limit as per the manual. As I understand it wears fast to that limit and then almost stops wearing at all.
I plan to do maybe another 5k km or so before changing the chain guide along with the chain and sprockets. Then I will be at 35000km
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on May 24, 2018, 08:16:49 am
Update:
Damn getting that starter out is a mission. There is a T30 bolt that is very difficult to access. It seems like I will have to take off the complete air intake and throttle bodies as well to gain access. Very slow progress and my time is running out.

Seeing as you've changed everything on this bike....Ever replaced the actual chain slider on the swingarm?   Mine seems to be at the limit....Any idea what it costs? Looks fairly DIYable.
Actually read a discussion on this recently. Seems like there is still a lot of the chain guide left even when it gets to the wear limit as per the manual. As I understand it wears fast to that limit and then almost stops wearing at all.
I plan to do maybe another 5k km or so before changing the chain guide along with the chain and sprockets. Then I will be at 35000km

Yeah I also read that.  I just wanna go do a Sani trip in june and don't want to be stressing about it the whole time, so I'll see how much the part is anyway, and take a good look this weekend.

That new starter should be worth it man. I know my bike frigging jumps to life compared to the old one I had.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on May 31, 2018, 08:16:08 am
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!

Starts up like a champ!

But damn I had a hard time doing this DIY! I will elaborate later, but for now I am considering replacing coolant while the bike is still stripped and I have to top up.

I seem to remember big discussions on what is the correct coolant to use, can anyone help with the right choice or spec that should be available in a small town midas?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on May 31, 2018, 08:24:32 am
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!

Starts up like a champ!

But damn I had a hard time doing this DIY! I will elaborate later, but for now I am considering replacing coolant while the bike is still stripped and I have to top up.

I seem to remember big discussions on what is the correct coolant to use, can anyone help with the right choice or spec that should be available in a small town midas?

(Ek sal maar Ingels antwoord)

When buying anti freeze for a modern engine, just make sure that it states on the bottle that it is "silicate free". Something like the Castrol pre-mix/ready mix should do the job.

This is a general statement. Not sure if KTM has some specific requirement on this
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on May 31, 2018, 09:07:18 am
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!

Starts up like a champ!

But damn I had a hard time doing this DIY! I will elaborate later, but for now I am considering replacing coolant while the bike is still stripped and I have to top up.

I seem to remember big discussions on what is the correct coolant to use, can anyone help with the right choice or spec that should be available in a small town midas?

I would imagine as long as you replace all of the coolant, then it does not matter too much as long as it's a decent one.  I know KTM use the Motorex 3.0 or 5.0 (something like that) at some point they changed between the 2.


Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: PHILIPKUHN on June 04, 2018, 09:27:36 am
Kathu Midas verkoop Toyota antifreeze.

Dis die beste!! :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 12, 2018, 10:41:15 am


Losper made this clip of our ride this weekend, I am adding it here as an explanation as tonwhy I will be asking how to repair a lot of stuff soon...

Actually my bike performed well. The issues Ibhad was caused by me. I again lost the bolts on my bash plate (my slip up not using thread loc even though I had them real tight) also lost a bash plate bracket that will be toigh to source.
Ibalso had an engine error code intermittently.  4 long and 5 short which is the lambda sensor which is also me...I was very rough with that wire when installing the starter.
I also broke one panel and added a lot more character in the ahape of scratches. Really going to need that sticker kit soon.

Other than my own poor riding skills and poorer DIY skills I am very happy with how my bike performed.

I havent washed it yet so there may still be some surprises lurking.


And yes a smaller bike would be better, but then the trip would not have happened as I rode the 700km there and back, mostly at night.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on June 13, 2018, 08:29:02 am
That all just looks like flipping hard work :biggrin:   

I prefer the nice calm dirt passes in Lesotho with a slightly steep, slightly loose climb now and then, I'll stick to that I reckon haha.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Renrew on June 13, 2018, 08:46:29 am
Molten jou verhale van skade maak my oe bitter seer!

Maar goeie werk, niks beter as om n lekker bike lekker hard te ry.

Tot dit tyd is vir die herstelwerk periode...


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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 13, 2018, 08:52:20 am
Molten jou verhale van skade maak my oe bitter seer!

Maar goeie werk, niks beter as om n lekker bike lekker hard te ry.

Tot dit tyd is vir die herstelwerk periode...


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Aag wat. Ek kry so min kans om te ry, dit werk okay uit om maar te werk aan die bike tussen trips!

Maar hy is nou mooi uitgesort, behalwe vir die ryer is daar nie meer veel swak punte oor nie.

Ai, ek het n konstante verlange terug na daai trip. Dit darm maar net lekker al was dit harde werk
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 09, 2018, 12:42:48 pm
I havent updated in a while...

So, chain and sprockets...long story.
I bought the bike at 20k km not sure if sprockets hage been changed but assumed not. So I was under the impression you can toutch 40k km on sprockets and taking into consideration that the bike had a Scott oiler on I thought they were good to go to 30k km. At around 27k km I wanted to test sprocket teeth changes and changed the rear sprocket. (Knowing you should do all in one go but I just wanted to test.)

Stock is 17F and 42R.
I test OEM 17F and aftermarket 44R and liked it.
Decided I had to fit new everything and then saw I should have long since done so.
New stuff is a 16F with the powerparts 42R. (I wanted to do 43 or 44 R but it was either 42 or 45 in the orange)
Chain is the gold plated option from Tracmac.
Roughly 16F was R650, 42R was R1350, slider R350 and chain R1650

So my front was fubar. My chainslider was fubar and rear sprocket teeth was bent. Not very happy with myself. Bike is at 31k km currently.

I love the orange sprocket!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 09, 2018, 01:52:06 pm
Ek dink daai voorsprocket het net afdraend grip gehad!!! :lol8:
Het jy die sprockets ook by Trac Mac gekoop?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 09, 2018, 01:57:15 pm
Ek dink daai voorsprocket het net afdraend grip gehad!!! :lol8:
Het jy die sprockets ook by Trac Mac gekoop?
Ek het nooit voor onraad vermoed nie. Weet nie hoe...

Nee alle sprockets OEM. Daar een of ander storie dat jy bike drive shaft kan seer maak met aftermarket voor sprocket. En agter het ek OEM gekoop vir die looks
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 09, 2018, 01:59:17 pm
Ek dink daai voorsprocket het net afdraend grip gehad!!! :lol8:
Het jy die sprockets ook by Trac Mac gekoop?
Ek het nood voor onraad vermoed nie. Weet nie hoe...

Nee alle sprockets OEM. Daar een of ander storie dat jy bike drive shaft kan seer maak met aftermarket voor sprocket. En agter het ek OEM gekoop vir die looks
Jip het al met van die manne gebeur dis hoekom ek vra.
Legedema moes sy 990 strip oor n outputshaft watse splines opgekou is.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 09, 2018, 02:21:37 pm
Jayzuz :o   That front sprocket....Are those missing teeth from having the cut some off to clear the swingarm or just wear?





Slider still looks like it had some life though.......Question....Can you replace the slider without moving the swingarm?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 09, 2018, 02:50:32 pm
^ nope, did not cut sprocket to take it out.
Maybe top gear top tip there... ride the front sprocket till past its end of life to ease replacement. I was expecting lots of hassles also...

And another no, I twisted and bend it a bit but got it through without to much issues. Obviously before fitting the chain.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 09, 2018, 03:20:48 pm
^ nope, did not cut sprocket to take it out.
Maybe top gear top tip there... ride the front sprocket till past its end of life to ease replacement. I was expecting lots of hassles also...

And another no, I twisted and bend it a bit but got it through without to much issues. Obviously before fitting the chain.

So thats a "Yes" you can fit it without moving the swingarm?  :biggrin:  haha
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 09, 2018, 03:41:41 pm
^ my bad


Yes :)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Clint_G on July 09, 2018, 04:16:55 pm
Wow. If i had read this thread, I wouldn't have bought the 1190. Hahaha.

Glad I did, though. I've got a 2016, still under factory warranty, and with extended warranty for another 2 years. Lets hope I a) Don't need to use the warranty, or b) If I do, I don't have your luck with dealerships.  :lol8:

That being said, I haven't had the chance to abuse mine like you have. Yet.
It's definitely going to happen, though. Only had it 2 months.
Give me time, then I'll start my own "The 1190 is the best and worst bike I've ever had" thread.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 09, 2018, 06:46:15 pm
Wow. If i had read this thread, I wouldn't have bought the 1190. Hahaha.

Glad I did, though. I've got a 2016, still under factory warranty, and with extended warranty for another 2 years. Lets hope I a) Don't need to use the warranty, or b) If I do, I don't have your luck with dealerships.  :lol8:

That being said, I haven't had the chance to abuse mine like you have. Yet.
It's definitely going to happen, though. Only had it 2 months.
Give me time, then I'll start my own "The 1190 is the best and worst bike I've ever had" thread.

The 2016s are the best ones ;) :biggrin:

Mine has just run out of warranty and I dont think im going to extend it. I havent needed anything really in 2 years.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on July 09, 2018, 06:50:54 pm
goeie genade m0lt3n  :o

Jy kan darem goed verniel  :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Clint_G on July 09, 2018, 07:13:38 pm
Wow. If i had read this thread, I wouldn't have bought the 1190. Hahaha.

Glad I did, though. I've got a 2016, still under factory warranty, and with extended warranty for another 2 years. Lets hope I a) Don't need to use the warranty, or b) If I do, I don't have your luck with dealerships.  8:

That being said, I haven't had the chance to abuse mine like you have. Yet.
It's definitely going to happen, though. Only had it 2 months.
Give me time, then I'll start my own "The 1190 is the best and worst bike I've ever had" thread.

The 2016s are the best ones ;)

Mine has just run out of warranty and I dont think im going to extend it. I havent needed anything really in 2 years.
At a cost of just under R7k, I'd rather have the extended warranty and not need it than the other way around.

If your warranty is already expired, you can only get around half the cover than if you extend it while it's still covered. For example, the MotoDrive1 warranty covers R50k for engine failure, MotoDrive2 covers R25k.

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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 10, 2018, 07:41:26 pm
I am not so sure the exended warranty would have really been worth it for me on my 2013 even, so definitely not worth it on a 2016.

I have actually spend a lot of thought on what issues one can expect on a 2016 compared to all the issues I have had. From the top of my head I can only think of the head unit mounts that can break. Pretty solid bike then the 2016.

I washed mine today and realised the extra money spend on that sprocket is a bit of a waste when you do gravel. I still have some little things to sort after the last trip but nothing major that can cause a DNF.

To be honest, my heart does bleed a little when ai see the general condition of my bike when I wash it. Then I have to remind myself of what I have done with it, experienced and still can experience with it.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Oubones on July 11, 2018, 06:08:40 am

To be honest, my heart does bleed a little when ai see the general condition of my bike when I wash it. Then I have to remind myself of what I have done with it, experienced and still can experience with it.
That bike is made to be used, like a spanner!
Surely it needs to pick up some marks, otherwise how do you remember what trip you did when and what happened on it?
If you just want to look at your bike, rather buy a poster for your wall and you can change it every week!
Like that orange rear sprocket though, looks really nice!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on July 11, 2018, 06:49:19 am
Go see the movie Cars2 again. Mater is proud of all his dents and scratches as it is a reminder of good times spent with friends  :lol8:

(Maybe I have seen that movie a few times more than the average person...)
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jackol. on July 11, 2018, 07:35:43 am
Go see the movie Cars2 again. Mater is proud of all his dents and scratches as it is a reminder of good times spent with friends  :lol8:

(Maybe I have seen that movie a few times more than the average person...)

Sounds like you have small kids that really love cars...  :peepwall:

M0lten, I really enjoyed the last trip that we did in Lesotho!!!  All those marks are really worth it!  Seeing that I did not really had to pay for any of the damages  :pot: :pot:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 11, 2018, 07:45:40 am
Haha I also know that scene with Mater by heart now!

Maybe I will slap a sticker kit on the bike after this summer, I have really been longing to put some stickers on! Combined with that I will make the crashbars black as well, its just easier to touch up than the orange.

What frustrates me most actually is not the broken panel or deep scratches on the windscreen, but the fine scratches all over the side and tank panels from riding through branches.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 11, 2018, 08:53:35 am
Man.  I have the same relationship with my old wrangler.

I've beaten the hell out of it offroad and it's done daily duty for many years, fighting with taxi's etc.    It has it's battle scars and dings. I probably couldve gone a little easier on it, but it was kinda meant to be hammered offroad and that makes me feel better.

I love the salty old bastard even though the heater is disconnected, the ride will make you pee blood and the clutch can be used as a leg press.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Clint_G on July 11, 2018, 10:06:10 am
Haha I also know that scene with Mater by heart now!

Maybe I will slap a sticker kit on the bike after this summer, I have really been longing to put some stickers on! Combined with that I will make the crashbars black as well, its just easier to touch up than the orange.

What frustrates me most actually is not the broken panel or deep scratches on the windscreen, but the fine scratches all over the side and tank panels from riding through branches.

I'm considering a wrap to prevent the scratches before they begin. I also have a buddy with exactly the same bike, so I want to personalize mine a bit.

Now it's the decision between between just plain matte black or some graphics.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 10, 2018, 10:19:08 am
Fitted some decals yet Clint?

On my side, I need to replace bigfoot. Will do a DIY jobby though.

Not riding much atm. But here is some pics of my daighter who loves getting on the bike and going for a ride around the block.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Clint_G on September 11, 2018, 03:33:46 pm
I haven't gotten around to the wrap yet. Been too busy racking up mileage. I got her on 8000km when she was just under 2 years old. I've put on 6000km in the 2.5 months I've had her.

I also had to sell my Jeeps first to free up some capital. One down, one left to go, then I can do the wrap.

For now I'm just riding whenever I get a gap. Unfortunately Afrisam is busy with their shutdown, so I'm working silly hours for another two weeks, but then it's back on the road. I think I need to do a PE trip...

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Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 11, 2018, 03:55:10 pm
 my daighter who loves getting on the bike

Molt moet tog nie dat daai pragtige mensie afval in die ry nie asseblief!!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on October 27, 2018, 09:49:54 pm
Wat het jy nou nog NIE stukkend gery op die bike van my nie  :'(   :'(
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on October 28, 2018, 10:23:19 am
Wat het jy nou nog NIE stukkend gery op die bike van my nie  :'(   :'(

welkom terug, Stoutgat!  ;) :biggrin:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 29, 2018, 09:01:11 am
Wat het jy nou nog NIE stukkend gery op die bike van my nie  :'(   :'(

tel gebuig of gekrap ook?


Hallo Manic!! Die bike is nou puik man! Ek sal letterlik eerder nou op die bike klim en rondom Afrika skiet, as wat ek op n nuwe 1090 of 1290 sal, of enige ander bike. Hulle het nog so paar goedjies wat eers sal breek
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 14, 2018, 09:16:25 am
https://www.highflowfuel.com/i-23906113-quantum-intank-efi-fuel-pump-for-ktm-1190-adventure-2014-2018-replaces-60307088000.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1YKh7rOe3wIVFMJkCh1yvgP2EAQYASABEgInnPD_BwE

Saving this link for an aftermarket fuel pump for later reference...


In other news, haven't been riding much. Hope to do some mileage today.
Getting some random stickers today also, will update pictures when fitted.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 17, 2018, 11:12:57 am
Still love my bike very much. The issues there is, I know and do not steel my confidence when riding anymore. This used to be a huge issue for me and stole a lot of my riding confidence. Example is the MTC failure. I do not get it often but when I do I know it's either a flat battery from standing or throttle bodies not closing completely, the only issue then is driving in street mode without TC till the next stop, and that is also great to just be reminded of what a beast this is. I ride in offroad mode most of the time...

The stickers I had made wasn't as nice as I hoped but still made a huge difference, my bike looked crap being plain black, now it's tons better.

Had a nice day out. We were supposed to do a small trip but with Philip having some puncture drama we had to bail on the trip. It was still great fun, even in 43degree heat. Managed to see a lot of animals and got some great pics of my bike :)

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: mtr89 on December 17, 2018, 05:29:30 pm
That last photo is awesome!!!
Your bike looks aggressive and ready to shred tyres!!!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on December 18, 2018, 07:36:50 am
That last photo is awesome!!!
Your bike looks aggressive and ready to shred tyres!!!

Thanks mtr. I would like to think so too.
Just wish I could ride more!

I cant even commute to work as I have to drop the kids off at daycare, but also, I cant behave. I am not a super good rider but I cant behave on this bike and there is super stringent rules at the mine where I work they will fire me. :(
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: BuRP on February 11, 2019, 03:26:21 pm
with all my other bikes I am sad that I never told their story....


..... delivered at a friends house. Thanks again Philip!
And up to now, I still have to buy browny points from my wife to spend some time on my bike! I have still ridden less than Philip on my own bike, 4 days later

I just started to read this thread - and think you should move in with Philip!
He sounds like a good dude, and you can always go kuier at your own place if the pining for (censored, something cat-like) gets too bad.

 :P
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 28, 2019, 03:13:35 pm
Update time!!!

With my last outing I bend the Akront front rim on a rock. Bike actually took two knocks on rocks, first I was standing and weight on the rear tyre so it was a rather spectacular moment kicking the front wheel up pretty high, no damage. Next one was gunning it in thick sand and it a hidden rock in the sand while in a corner. One of those where you just clench your jaw and wait to feel if the tyre is also deflated.

So I can give feedback that the new Akront is a lot stronger than the previous Saxxes, but not strong enough and I should have gotten something aftermarket. My riding is 'evolving' as I gain more and more experience and confidence on the bike. So the hits it has to take gets harder and harder.
Already fixed though. My stepfather has a press, fixed my saxes rim (he wanted to, likes to play with his press, I will not use it again though) and he just fixed this rim as well but says it was a mission. Was very hard and eventually had to heat it up.

Also due was oil change. Bike is now at 35000, (IIRC I got it at 18000). mentioning it here I can come and check when I serviced it in my thread in future.
This time I took time out to make the hole in the bash plate bigger so that it is possible to remove and clean the oil screen without removing the bash plate. So an oil change is very easy now.
Still happy with the oil Manic, previous owner, used. Shell Racing 4T. Used it again. The only issue still is my clumsiness...
I spilled A LOT of oil.
For future reference, oil out of rear screen comes out slow, no problem. Oil out of drain plug also comes out slow, no problem. But oil out of front comes out in a thick stream!

First picture shows the hole I made bigger, It actually looks pretty good, I will retake picture later when the edges are not cleanly filed.
Second picture has the bike on its side, the hydraulic jack just collapsed beneath bike (3 days after service), probably because of all the oil that spilled over it. Fortunately no new damage to bike.
Bike is on the jack because I had to fix the wheel and no centre stand.

NOW I am really raring to go for a ride!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on February 28, 2019, 03:26:27 pm
Bigger hole in the bashplate sounds like a good idea.....Ballache removing the thing every time.

I also want to change the oil on mine but I've been super lazy the last few weeks.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on February 28, 2019, 03:55:57 pm
Bigger hole in the bashplate sounds like a good idea.....Ballache removing the thing every time.

I also want to change the oil on mine but I've been super lazy the last few weeks.

wasn't to difficult and I think worth it. I have been putting off the oil change for way to long.
Or rather the rest of the work, I am waiting for cash to clear. I need to replace a support arm for the windscreen and one inner front panel. Called RAD today but they are closed for stock taking till 5th March :(

Next month I want to fit a sticker kit!!! So soon I will be asking opinions on what to get, or for people to share options. I cant wait, but don't have a clue on what I want!!
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on March 01, 2019, 06:50:30 am
Martin. Daai tweede foto..... dit lyk nie of daai baie mense is wat beindruk is met daai glips nie. By vrouens word dit meestal uitgeken deur die "suikerpotjie" stance.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 01, 2019, 07:02:43 am
Martin. Daai tweede foto..... dit lyk nie of daai baie mense is wat beindruk is met daai glips nie. By vrouens word dit meestal uitgeken deur die "suikerpotjie" stance.

Hahaha ek sien nou eers vroulief se teapot stance!
Sy was actually soos 10min voor die tyd in garage toe staan bike nog (of so se sy...), bietjie later toe sien ek iets is nie pluis daar nie. Ek het nou maar nie afleidings gemaak nie




nie hardop nie
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 10, 2019, 11:28:59 am
Had a lot of fun yesterday at Frylinkspan. Bike as awesome as ever.



I seem to be useless with rubes though, had another flat, valve ripped off again. But this time riding buddy showed me what I was possibly doing wrong. I was putting washer over valve, then through rim then another washer (tubeless rims hole are big) and nut. He showed me it should be washer then nut tightened then though the hole. Holding thumbs.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 10, 2019, 11:44:23 am
Sand lyk klammerig, het julle reen gehad Molt?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Noneking on March 10, 2019, 01:51:21 pm
Lyk soos groot pret
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 11, 2019, 09:08:23 am
Sand lyk klammerig, het julle reen gehad Molt?

Klink my hulle het daar n bietjie reen gehad so 3 dae vroeer. Maar die res van die area nie veel nie. Ook niks by Van Zylsrus so 60km van daar nie.

Hier is nog 2 fotos van die naweek...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Rexc-w on March 11, 2019, 09:41:19 am
Sal daarvan hou om die 1190 teen so duin uit te vat.  Moet hom nog Duin 7 toe ook neem :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on March 11, 2019, 11:41:48 am
Sal daarvan hou om die 1190 teen so duin uit te vat.  Moet hom nog Duin 7 toe ook neem :thumleft:

Dit was regtig vet pret. Ek het hele klomp keer op en af gery daar. Later bietjie cocky geraak en van nader af weg getrek en toe vas gesit, baie uitputtend om bike daar bo om te draai. Het bietjie in die bosse ook opge-eindig toe ek n ander duin te vining ge'charge' het, het sommer airtime ook gehad oor die cross axles! ek wou nie op hou nie, fiksheid my net gevang.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on May 27, 2019, 03:37:22 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 25, 2019, 03:18:30 pm
I have been getting very lazy to update this thread. Mostly because I am ashamed at not getting time (or having money) to keep my bike tip top. Also don't get much time to ride it.

anyhow, some highlights, about 6 weeks ago there was a local ride arranged by Diesel & Sand. A bar in the veld basically. So I see a add that there is going to be an outride, mostly for scramblers and quads and as I have been meaning to ride more sand this sounded like a good opportunity. I called up the guy and ask him how difficult it is on a big bike and get a vague answer, so now I don't know if it will be a waste of time or just to much/bike damaging ordeal. Did tell him though that I will be disappointed if I don't fall once...

So I didn't fall, but it was rather hard, 2 spoor very thick sand track between the trees and it was AWESOME! I am not afraid of sand at all anymore, it was a lot of fun. I did not have as much fun as the scramblers and was rather just surviving. Pity I didn't get any pics of the 2 spoor route.

In the end we bailed out a little early, was gatvol of the quads getting in in front of you, being slow (not all mind you, some could really gun it!) and spewing up a lot of dust but it was great. They also only ride hard for half an hour then rest for another half an hour, that got a bit old. But all in all a great experience.

And check out Pieter's 660! Really love the look of this specimen
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on June 25, 2019, 07:48:32 pm
nee boet! as ek kyk waars Kumba se aandeelprys, behoort jy nou al nog 3 nuwe bikes te gekoop het  ;) :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on June 26, 2019, 10:38:55 am
I have been getting very lazy to update this thread. Mostly because I am ashamed at not getting time (or having money) to keep my bike tip top. Also don't get much time to ride it.

anyhow, some highlights, about 6 weeks ago there was a local ride arranged by Diesel & Sand. A bar in the veld basically. So I see a add that there is going to be an outride, mostly for scramblers and quads and as I have been meaning to ride more sand this sounded like a good opportunity. I called up the guy and ask him how difficult it is on a big bike and get a vague answer, so now I don't know if it will be a waste of time or just to much/bike damaging ordeal. Did tell him though that I will be disappointed if I don't fall once...

So I didn't fall, but it was rather hard, 2 spoor very thick sand track between the trees and it was AWESOME! I am not afraid of sand at all anymore, it was a lot of fun. I did not have as much fun as the scramblers and was rather just surviving. Pity I didn't get any pics of the 2 spoor route.

In the end we bailed out a little early, was gatvol of the quads getting in in front of you, being slow (not all mind you, some could really gun it!) and spewing up a lot of dust but it was great. They also only ride hard for half an hour then rest for another half an hour, that got a bit old. But all in all a great experience.

And check out Pieter's 660! Really love the look of this specimen
I am impressed with your sand riding prowess. Yes, the dirt bikes weiging 100kg do have a ball in those conditions. 230kg with rider is not a joke, but then the 1190 is a good bike...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 26, 2019, 11:21:39 am
nee boet! as ek kyk waars Kumba se aandeelprys, behoort jy nou al nog 3 nuwe bikes te gekoop het  ;) :thumleft:

Ai man ek wens. Het Land Rover gekoop dat die familie saam die avonture kan begin beleef, so hy het nou eers daktent en aggresiewer tyres gekry.


I am impressed with your sand riding prowess. Yes, the dirt bikes weiging 100kg do have a ball in those conditions. 230kg with rider is not a joke, but then the 1190 is a good bike...

Thanks. But sand is everywhere here. I have gotten stuck in my back yard previously.

I very badly want to go do Xpat's Botswana trip, it looks doable with the big bike but I also don't want to go humiliate myself (or die) so first want to fit the most aggressive rear I can find (already have a front lined up) which I believe is the MotoZ dessert H/T if I remember the name correct. most aggressive that will still work on the 1190 that is.

Problem is there is still a little life left on the current rear, not much but still. So watch this space...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on June 26, 2019, 11:26:41 am
Thanks. But sand is everywhere here. I have gotten stuck in my back yard previously.

I very badly want to go do Xpat's Botswana trip, it looks doable with the big bike but I also don't want to go humiliate myself (or die) so first want to fit the most aggressive rear I can find (already have a front lined up) which I believe is the MotoZ dessert H/T if I remember the name correct. most aggressive that will still work on the 1190 that is.

Problem Opportunity is there is still a little life left on the current rear, not much but still. So watch this space...

A few burnouts can sort that "problem" of yours  :deal:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on June 26, 2019, 11:36:44 am
nee boet! as ek kyk waars Kumba se aandeelprys, behoort jy nou al nog 3 nuwe bikes te gekoop het  ;) :thumleft:

Ai man ek wens. Het Land Rover gekoop dat die familie saam die avonture kan begin beleef, so hy het nou eers daktent en aggresiewer tyres gekry.


I am impressed with your sand riding prowess. Yes, the dirt bikes weiging 100kg do have a ball in those conditions. 230kg with rider is not a joke, but then the 1190 is a good bike...


Thanks. But sand is everywhere here. I have gotten stuck in my back yard previously.

I very badly want to go do Xpat's Botswana trip, it looks doable with the big bike but I also don't want to go humiliate myself (or die) so first want to fit the most aggressive rear I can find (already have a front lined up) which I believe is the MotoZ dessert H/T if I remember the name correct. most aggressive that will still work on the 1190 that is.

Problem is there is still a little life left on the current rear, not much but still. So watch this space...

What are you running at present? TKC80s?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on June 26, 2019, 12:13:53 pm
Nope, don't like them. Never used them but you pay a premium for that name and there recently was a bad batch which made bubbles inside the tread (jap, you read that correctly)

In general I believe all knobbies will only give up to 5000km if you treat them with respect, all of them. you will even get more than 3k km out of an MX Kenda or whatever cheapie if you treat if reasonably. One hard stint on tar though and any of them will be done inside of a 150km.

So currently I am running the Anakees Wild on the front: I am rather happy with it. Its very hard though so tough to take of and fit with tyre levers. Its also not wearing. I think I have 5000km on it by now and it still looks new. So two things: I have been struggling a lot with punctures on the front (remember I have a tube fitted) which I think mostly is because I am running to low pressures and also I think its bad luck. Secondly I am getting bored with it, I have another front tyre ready to put on.

On the rear is an Anlas Kapla. I like them, haven't had any issues, first one is earlier in the thread, I destroyed it at high speed. But saw them on special (with the front, as mentioned above which is ready to put on...) so bought them again. I didn't track my mileage very well but think it did give me almost 5000km now. Good traction, not super hard so decent on tar as well. If I didn't want to test that MotoZ I would have taken whatever I could get again, or haven't tried yet. want to try a Shinko and E07+ still.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 01, 2019, 09:44:07 am
LC8 section is going quiet lately.

Also did a one day trip 3 weeks ago. Was supposed to be a quick 500km, ride to Prieska, do 2spoor next to river to Douglas and back to Kathu. But when we got to Prieska Philip's (riding buddy) cousin with 1290 would only join if we took route to Carnarvon. I thought it's a bit far but wanting to get some km's done for Iron butt ride I want to do was okay with it. Bad decision.

We started off with Philip getting a flat rear. Time lost. Realized later time is running out and took shortest route home. Got confronted with a locked gate, forced through only to get to another stronger locked gate with that yellow sign, munitions testing ground. Turn around, time lost.
Then I got two flat tyres. In hindsight my front pressure was to low. I hate hard tyres on gravel but I am struggling badly with flats in general, was at 1.5bar and pinched the tyre, first heavy duty tube then normal tube). Got home after 3am.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 01, 2019, 10:25:40 am
Dan dude, that sounds like a long day.

You seem to live in a great spot for riding though, being stuck in the city sucks.

I was planning to get out with some guys on saturday morning for a burn, but 10:30pm on Friday I discovered a leaking pipe in my roof, so Saturday was spent in the roof with leak clamps haha

Got a little fuck around in last night "urban adventuring" in all the small pieces of dirt in my suburb haha

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 01, 2019, 10:46:15 am
Dan dude, that sounds like a long day.

You seem to live in a great spot for riding though, being stuck in the city sucks.

I was planning to get out with some guys on saturday morning for a burn, but 10:30pm on Friday I discovered a leaking pipe in my roof, so Saturday was spent in the roof with leak clamps haha

Got a little fuck around in last night "urban adventuring" in all the small pieces of dirt in my suburb haha



Contrary to what have been said previously, on the forum not really. There is about 5 routes to do within 300km. (if you ask most people they would mention 2)
You can only do those routes over that many times. If you want more technical you will have to go sleep over somewhere. So I am pushing the limits with time away from family and riding hard in one day.

I didn't mention it, but that previous trip ended up being more than 1000km. Riding from 7am to 3am.

So, next up. Philip's cousin mentioned last night they going to Waterford with their scramblers. We want to join with the big bikes. Waterford is sand sand and some more sand. To be best setup for this I plan on getting that motoz desert h/t tyre on the rear and fitting a new anlas kapla on the front (which I already have)

Question though for other 1190 riders (or guess I will find out soon enough) which ride mode is best? Sport or normal? Sport is generally not worth much offroad, you just spin. Offroad traction control and sand isn't friends, you just get stuck very quickly.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 01, 2019, 11:22:33 am
What about using Offroad mode but turning MTC off?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 01, 2019, 11:48:16 am
What about using Offroad mode but turning MTC off?

If all goes well I should be able to give that feedback soon :)


Actually need to go make a confession in the confessions thread...I spend most of my riding in offroad mode...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on July 01, 2019, 01:59:15 pm
LC8 section is going quiet lately.

Also did a one day trip 3 weeks ago. Was supposed to be a quick 500km, ride to Prieska, do 2spoor next to river to Douglas and back to Kathu. But when we got to Prieska Philip's (riding buddy) cousin with 1290 would only join if we took route to Carnarvon. I thought it's a bit far but wanting to get some km's done for Iron butt ride I want to do was okay with it. Bad decision.

We started off with Philip getting a flat rear. Time lost. Realized later time is running out and took shortest route home. Got confronted with a locked gate, forced through only to get to another stronger locked gate with that yellow sign, munitions testing ground. Turn around, time lost.
Then I got two flat tyres. In hindsight my front pressure was to low. I hate hard tyres on gravel but I am struggling badly with flats in general, was at 1.5bar and pinched the tyre, first heavy duty tube then normal tube). Got home after 3am.

Jy het baie moed om so 'n lang dag te ry!☺ Dankie vir die storie.
Sal tubeless nie vir jou beter werk nie?
NS. Ek sien nuwe Anakee Adventures is uit, maar dit sal nie eers op jou radar verskyn nie...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 01, 2019, 02:38:29 pm
Haha nee. Laat dink my aan heidenhaus. Daai tyre gaan bo op sand spin en nie byt nie.

Ek sal e07+ nou sometime probeer na die sand gat jeuk gekrap is.

Tubeless kan nie so laag druk gaan vir sand ry soos tubes. Dit is die fancy antw, eintlik antw is KTM het my tubeless opgeneek en toe moes ek tube sit. Nou het ek daai rim al so gestraf met tyre levers dat ek twyfel of hy nog tubeless kan funksioneer. Ek staan voor die besluit om rim te vervang later met tubeless of n Did dirt star wat nie sal buig nie maar ook nie tubeless is nie.

My agterste tubeless loop nog alipad sonder issues of punctures
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on July 01, 2019, 02:57:29 pm
I actually also spend plenty time in Offroad mode myself. Especially for traffic and lane splitting etc I like the muted throttle response a bit better, and still plenty shove to get going when you need to.

Plus it's almost like a wheelie control in first gear, still allowing a wheelie but kinda catches it :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on July 02, 2019, 11:40:38 am
I actually also spend plenty time in Offroad mode myself. Especially for traffic and lane splitting etc I like the muted throttle response a bit better, and still plenty shove to get going when you need to.

Plus it's almost like a wheelie control in first gear, still allowing a wheelie but kinda catches it :biggrin: :biggrin:
Disclaimer: I sell them, but BoosterPlug will give you offroad mode throttle steadiness in Sports mode.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 02, 2019, 01:55:14 pm
bike tyres are expensive! MotoZ is going to cost R2400! at least it is shipping included
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on July 04, 2019, 08:34:29 am
A little of topic but I am proud of this.

I have had this trailer for a while now, helps when the family goes on vacation then I can take the bike with or when I need to be recovered (flat tyres or Harley issues).
But it started rusting and the mudguard broke or tore out of the frame. So we started with refurbishing it. Fixed and strengthened the trailer, added tie down points (it was very dodgy with two big bikes loaded). Then sand blasted, painted, new wiring and now its as good as new.
It would look better with black rims but I am now tired of dumping money on it while its mostly just parked underneath a tree.

Very happy with the result
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Jacobsroodt on July 05, 2019, 12:18:13 pm
Now that is a new trailer! Well done.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 18, 2019, 08:23:44 pm
I fitted the MotoZ!
But not really impressed so far, they really do look the business, but  I think they are extra slippery on normal gravel. Havent tested them much yet. We did go on one trip, quick outride which turned into a flop again. Front flat tyre, twice. First one I was expecting, there was a patch on the tube, but the second one I don't u derstand. Don't care either. Managed to find some excel rims secondhand on wild dogs (pretty spotless, very happy) and hoping to have some better luck on that front.

OH, also got a flat on the rear. If was very weird initially, I was checking it on the tyre pressure sensor and it deflated pretty quick. Was impressed with the bike's electronics. The flat tyre warning wasn't activated at certain pressure but rather by rapid deflating. Initially couldn't find the reason for deflating on my rear tubeless until I heard a sudden release of pressure. Turned out the MotoZ is harder or something and an old smiley on the rear leaked. We werend home but fortunately some random dude in a bakkie had a proper hammer to sort that out.

But while the rear its an easy decision to replace the front with an Excell, tubed, the rear have been pretty solid so far. I am not to keen on losing my rear tubeless also. Will be putting that extra rear Excell on the shelf for now and see...
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 18, 2019, 08:37:03 pm
Should have checked my km reading for reference purposes later. Think I am around 38000km now.
Anyhow, stripped up to clean the air filter. Still a crap job but I have the hang of it mostly by now. Air filter very dirty and a mission to clean, but airbox spotless so very happy with that. First time I am cleaning the Rotveiler intake, so there was a little bit of worry in the back of my mind on how it did, if it sealed properly. So very happy to see all was good.

I also broke this inner fairing on the left hand side on a previous Lesotho trip. Will be replacing that soon. We are planning to do the Ben 10 challenge soon. Just wanted that out of the way then hope to clean, repair and rim tape some stuff. Get my bike tip top again.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on August 18, 2019, 10:56:17 pm
If you ever chuck that Rottweiler system for whatever reason, I want the base plate ok?
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on August 18, 2019, 11:15:43 pm
If you ever chuck that Rottweiler system for whatever reason, I want the base plate ok?

Ok  :thumleft:
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 19, 2019, 07:31:33 am
If you ever chuck that Rottweiler system for whatever reason, I want the base plate ok?

Haha don't see that happening but will keep you in mind. I actually got it with an additional new filter. So there is still a lot of life there...

Did this just in time I think, I have a race with a 1290 setup sometime. Really interested in seeing what happens. Just not sure of me, the rider. Racing a bike isn't easy, I am not a wheelie king.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on August 19, 2019, 09:05:17 am
Cool.

The filter seems to just be an ITG unit so it may be cheaper buying replacements from them direct.  I tried to order just the baseplate from Rottweiller, but they're smarter than that and wouldnt sell it on its own haha :biggrin:

Much easier solution on the 990s as the baseplate is flat. Can just make one up, but the 1X90s are all 3D shaped.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 19, 2019, 09:32:15 am
Cool.

The filter seems to just be an ITG unit so it may be cheaper buying replacements from them direct.  I tried to order just the baseplate from Rottweiller, but they're smarter than that and wouldnt sell it on its own haha :biggrin:

Much easier solution on the 990s as the baseplate is flat. Can just make one up, but the 1X90s are all 3D shaped.

Oh yeah. the ITG branding is on mine as well. Its washable and showing no wear at the moment so I shouldn't need to spend any money on that soon. Except on filter cleaner spray. I finish a half a bottle at a time to clean it!

Will see if I can take some after pics, I left it outside to dry, not yet back in the bike.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 26, 2019, 09:08:05 am
Cool.

The filter seems to just be an ITG unit so it may be cheaper buying replacements from them direct.  I tried to order just the baseplate from Rottweiller, but they're smarter than that and wouldnt sell it on its own haha :biggrin:

Much easier solution on the 990s as the baseplate is flat. Can just make one up, but the 1X90s are all 3D shaped.

Oh yeah. the ITG branding is on mine as well. Its washable and showing no wear at the moment so I shouldn't need to spend any money on that soon. Except on filter cleaner spray. I finish a half a bottle at a time to clean it!

Will see if I can take some after pics, I left it outside to dry, not yet back in the bike.


promised pic of that filter after cleaning.
I use the filter cleaner spray and hot water...burning my hands normally so don't particularly enjoy it.
Do think I can hear a louder induction noise now after cleaning.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 26, 2019, 09:25:43 am
went for a shakedown ride yesterday. To see if everything is fine after the half service and to evaluate the new front rim...
Also had to see if everything is tight and no rattles, I had to put an insert in place on one of the bashplate mounts which was stripped.

And whoever remembers my KTM dealership experience, the helicoil they fitted, I thought was the one thing they managed well.....evidently was also a fail. At least its solid now. I am really not looking forward to sending my bike for the next valve clearances checkup.

Anyhow, bike performed well. front wheel performed well. Rear didn't!
I did a short ride 3 weeks ago after fitting the MotoZ and it was a fail. An old smiley on the rim suddenly started leaking badly with that new tyre and it was an issue. Sorted it with an hammer. this trip we were planning a quick and far ride to Putsonderwater for the day. About 600km, mostly gravel, plan was to be back for lunch. Well, we were pushing hard when I had a very hard shot on the rear, doing about 120 I was thrown probably more than 45 degrees skew, fortunately the speed also pulled me straight. I just thought damn that was close when I got the puncture warning...

pic 1 shows the MotoZ did not take it well. From there on I had to inflate every 7km for a total of 80km before reaching Groblershoop and a strong compressor. I was about to attempt putting a plug in there when I noticed the tyre wasn't leaking but the beading against the rim. That slight smiley was again enough to cause a leak. Borrowed a hammer, again, and went home.

Question: would my Excel rim fare better? I want to swop now, but I am wondering if a shot like that wont still pinch the tube and I would be sitting with a flat anyhow? Tyre was at 1.9 bar when it took that hit btw.

We rode back on the Transnet service route, nice with lots of sand. I need to fine tune my suspension setup though, at 100kmph the bike is solid in sand, I actually sit through most. but at 110 its super unstable and tankslaps at the slightest notion of sand. Gave me a proper workout keeping it there.
Met the Sishen Saldanha train on its way to Saldanha. Took a video, its a solid 6.5minutes before that train passes!

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on August 26, 2019, 09:49:31 am
Shit, I never go lower than 2bar, usually about 2.4, but then I'm not riding as hard as you do, and try to avoid sand like the plague :biggrin:

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on August 26, 2019, 11:06:39 am
Shit, I never go lower than 2bar, usually about 2.4, but then I'm not riding as hard as you do, and try to avoid sand like the plague :biggrin:



Well, I am slowly being convinced that I have to man up and stay above 2 bar as well. I just hate it, the bike feels a lot more unstable with hard tyres on gravel. a lot less grip. But I find myself going faster and faster, with the bike taking harder and harder shots so guessing its time.
Was watching the review of the 790 over the weekend, bouncing all over with them pushing the expension, and I was wondering what pressure they run and what those rims look like.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Manic on August 26, 2019, 04:46:44 pm
With the stock rims, if you go lower than 2bar, you WILL damage the rims. On my very first ride with this bike, before it even had 800km on the clock, I lost the front rim....

Never again. I keep tar pressures on all my bikes now when doing offroad.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=125301.0
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 13, 2019, 01:05:12 pm
I finally did a trip again!
And still love the bike! No tyre drama for me, but kept it at 2.2 bar so will take that as the new norm.

Here is my RR
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=240796.0

Only issue I had was a flattery. Or I assume its the battery, its the worst electric issues yet, or best yet depending how you look at it cause the MTC and ABS failure just had me enjoy the bike more than ever. New battery should be here today or Monday, previous one lasted 2 years. Motobatt. Would have preferred to try something else, I don't consider 2 years good, but Trac-Mac just have awesome service and fast delivery so sticking with that for convenience.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 13, 2019, 01:07:47 pm
Some pictures from the RR
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on September 16, 2019, 09:47:58 am
Interested to hear if the battery sorts everything out.  These bikes are pretty voltage sensitive, but isn't it strange that it started fine but had all those errors?



Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Bundu on September 16, 2019, 11:44:07 am
Interested to hear if the battery sorts everything out.  These bikes are pretty voltage sensitive, but isn't it strange that it started fine but had all those errors?

I think it has something to do with how low the voltage dips whilst starting - that low voltage seems to confuse the ECU's

I've checked my battery voltage whilst starting and it sometimes (depending how cold the engine is) drops as low as 9V on my fairly new battery, so on an older battery it could be quite a bit lower - also, as below, when starting the bike in gear, pulls the voltage down more

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 16, 2019, 11:52:51 am
Interesting stuff Bundu. when it still worked I also saw voltage drop to around 10V, lower than what I can remember it going to.
I do believe if I still had my old starter in the bike it would not have started.

Still waiting for my new battery, hopefully it arrives today.

Anyone know a KTM shop that actually answers emails and willing to send parts by Postnet? I would like to start getting my bike tip top again
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 17, 2019, 08:32:14 am
okay.
I have had big issues with the bike and generally was still positive.
This time I am not, the other things I broke, this is not my fault. The battery did not sort out the cluster!

50% chance I will have to replace the complete speedo cluster/head unit.
I will strip and check for a loose connection this afternoon and see what I find. Just maybe I am lucky. My front assembly does still have to much play so maybe the extra movement disconnected something, I will see if I can address that as well.

I did have for the first time ever some moisture inside the speedo after previous wash and shortly after my errors started popping up. Didn't think much of it at the time.

There is a number of cluster failures on the net, I was just hoping I could skip this one.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Roadhawg on September 17, 2019, 08:43:17 am
Bugger man.  A loose connection sounds probable, I mean why would it just all of a sudden lose it's shit?

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: Namakwalander on September 17, 2019, 11:46:24 am
Anyone know a KTM shop that actually answers emails and willing to send parts by Postnet? I would like to start getting my bike tip top again

Hoor by Philip hoe die diens by Rad moto was https://goo.gl/maps/9DAaNucivDntor5Z8

okay.
I have had big issues with the bike and generally was still positive.
This time I am not, the other things I broke, this is not my fault. The battery did not sort out the cluster!

50% chance I will have to replace the complete speedo cluster/head unit.
I will strip and check for a loose connection this afternoon and see what I find. Just maybe I am lucky. My front assembly does still have to much play so maybe the extra movement disconnected something, I will see if I can address that as well.

I did have for the first time ever some moisture inside the speedo after previous wash and shortly after my errors started popping up. Didn't think much of it at the time.

There is a number of cluster failures on the net, I was just hoping I could skip this one.

As jy die connectors nagaan, kan jy q20 spuit om vog uit te kry as die proppe verder as die seel uitgetrek het.


Otherwise, just out of curiosity, what does the starter and earth cables look like on the KTM and where do they connect? Almost sounds like one should be able to minimize volt drop during startup by looking into this. I have had a similar issue before, but not on a bike.
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 17, 2019, 11:49:52 am
after a chat with a buddy who had had 990 speedo issues I am more hopeful that its fixable. I will open up and electro clean everything and hope for the best. Seems like the moisture could have been a bigger issue than I thought.

So I feel more hopeful now. Lets see what happens tonight.

Willie ek whatsapp jou gou om beter te verstaan
Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on September 29, 2019, 12:31:09 pm
Just saw this on Facebook so putting it here for later reference. I have had to replace one before...

If you break the KTM clutch mount, the Magura (2700177) part is the same as the KTM (76513005000) but is MUCH cheaper.


On the speedo, I have a replacement unit now and all is fine.... With new battery as well so not sure if I actually had to replace battery.
Last time it was the same story, I replaced the rear speed/abs sensor with the battery so not to sure if it was actually necessary to replace battery then, and now same story.

Hindsight is brilliant

I actually struggled my ass of to get the battery to fit, I ordered the wrong battery, I repeated my previous Tracmac order forgetting that I have changed the Harley battery as well and now I was stuck with a battery one size to big. A mission but its in. Have to press the seat quite hard though to click in place.
And that's why I am not fitting the old one again to check if it was actually an issue or not.

Title: Re: the tale of my 1190 RRRRRRRR
Post by: m0lt3n on October 17, 2019, 07:35:32 am
So, a lot has happened since previous update.
or rather
a lot has broken since previous update.
I will basically be restarting this thread. Not to pshyched though to update. It really feels like much of a muchness now, redoing old repairs.

Once I get all the parts, I will start with a long overdue refurbishment of my not so old bike. I will be fixing a lot and upgrading a little, including the looks. Holding thumbs I don't take forever as I normally do with these things.
From the top of my head
1. I have to reglue heated grips which came loose.I cant ignore it anymore
2. Replace front indicators. They are still the pre facelift model lights and looks crap
3. Repaint crashbars. I am tired of scratched stuff, I don't fall so much anymore
4. Replace rear plastic cover above rear wheel.....yes AF*%K*NGAIN. And yes I am supposed to have upgraded stopper on rear shock and yes I have progressive springs in and yes it still happened.
5. Replace battery. YES, the new one is FUBAR
6. Replace broken spoke on Excel front rim (I will fix bend once tyre is done, and Yes I know you are not supposed to sommer -et bend an excel rim :( )

That's all for now.

see the story for broken bits here
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=241809.20
brokenness explained at reply #22.