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Title: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on March 27, 2017, 03:48:43 pm
So who's is gonna do the Bronze qualifier?
On the last day of last years Roof I was so incredibly tired that  I told myself "I would never do this again".
About a week later most of the pain was forgotten and the thought of doing the Roof again this year cropped up in me.
Then about a week ago the entries for the Bronze qualifier opened and my "friends" pushed me into entering.
So ja,  there we go, I am doing the Bronze qualifier in May.
Me and Michiel went for a quick training session in Lesotho yesterday.
Here we are on "Gutter pass"
     
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on March 27, 2017, 04:00:02 pm
`Lil Edgy riding :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DjfLoYd on March 28, 2017, 12:37:43 pm
I'm there like a bear! Doing the qualifier as well.
Signed up and paid the day they opened.
Scared shitless.

Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on March 28, 2017, 01:55:10 pm
Losper any idea which area they running the qualifier?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on March 28, 2017, 02:02:03 pm
Also entered along with a few guys from Ellisras, including Warren M. My last one was in 2012. Looking forward!
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: ktmpilot on March 29, 2017, 07:33:27 am
Me, entered and paid, carent wait!


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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: ktmpilot on March 29, 2017, 07:33:55 am
Daryl Curtis is involved in the route design apparently: http://us10.campaign-archive1.com/?u=ca13a311886398f51ef6c85e2&id=bb788610cf&e=3f28c1006c


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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on March 29, 2017, 07:56:25 am
Losper any idea which area they running the qualifier?
Edg's, that is a good question,  I would hope Ha Patrick, simply because of all the open space and easy accessibility but then again.... :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on March 29, 2017, 08:57:10 am
Agreed :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DREWMARX on April 04, 2017, 08:31:35 am
Howzit Chaps,

I'm also doing the Bronze Quali this year. Nervous, but I'm sure it'll be an awesome weekend no matter how tough it is! Good luck to everyone who is participating!

Anyhow, I'm currently in Tanzania, but will depart for Lesotho on or about the 4th of May from Pretoria. Any of you chaps keen to team up for the weekend? Let me know. I have a Cruiser Station Wagon (Slow as Fuck), but it has a roof rack and can comfortably fit 4 or 5 people. I also have a 3 bike Trailer. At the moment we are three in the vehicle.

Just whatsapp me and we can see what we can figure out. 0eight45zero124double6

Regards

Drew
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on April 04, 2017, 08:37:12 am
You on the Christini AWD again Drew?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DREWMARX on April 04, 2017, 03:15:32 pm
Edgy,

100% it just makes life easier for me. I'm too kak to do it on anything else.

Regards

Drew
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Rossdog on April 12, 2017, 02:42:09 pm
2017 was to be my year at the Roof. But since moving to Cape Agulhas, I have not been able to find any enduro riding/training venues, so out of desperation, I sold my enduro bike and bought a 690  :xxbah:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 03, 2017, 08:33:07 am
Heading up to Lesotho tomorrow and staying at Roma, maybe see a few of you guys there?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on May 03, 2017, 11:46:01 am
Heading up to Lesotho tomorrow and staying at Roma, maybe see a few of you guys there?
Hi Edgy,  yip, me and my son will be there  :thumleft:
Our numbers are 172 and 173
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 03, 2017, 11:56:14 am
`lil Edgy is 119 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 03, 2017, 12:04:22 pm
159. Also leaving tomorrow, staying at Molengoane Lodge  O0
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: 2wh33ls on May 03, 2017, 05:46:27 pm
me 2 cant wait,  number 207
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 07, 2017, 04:32:49 pm
So how did the boys all fare?
I'm very chuffed with Lil Edgy coming in a respectable 44th and very 1st experience riding in Lesotho  :thumleft:
He lost 20 odd places just at the base of Bushmans when he took a wrong turn....live and learn I suppose
So now to convinc his grade 11 teachers that he's off to Roof '17 :ricky:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Sithe on May 07, 2017, 05:41:09 pm
What was the nature of the route, looks like it was quite a fast one from the times , 100 kms in 4 hours ?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 07, 2017, 05:58:41 pm
What was the nature of the route, looks like it was quite a fast one from the times , 100 kms in 4 hours ?

Only the top guys would have done it in 4+hrs - average rider more like 6-7 hours. From all accounts the route was fair and suitably demanding with a few proper Roof passes in the mix. Only 160 entrants finished which is like half the field and sounds right to me. One wants to eliminate the bucket list once a month weekend warriors.

Well done to Edgy's and Great Dane's 16 year old lighties who were well into the top third finishers.  :thumleft: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: 
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on May 07, 2017, 07:00:03 pm
What was the nature of the route, looks like it was quite a fast one from the times , 100 kms in 4 hours ?
Quite the opposite Sithe,  it was 70km long and the most technical of all the qualifiers to date.
It took me 7hours 15min to complete and I finished 127th.
I have realized though that I am past my "sell by date" to do the Roof. :'(
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 07, 2017, 08:17:51 pm
Well done Losper - I am sure you have another Roof in the tank  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DjfLoYd on May 07, 2017, 09:21:14 pm
Well done, Losper. Legendary stuff to have made it.
I managed to complete the 1st loop in 6 and a half hours
but that was all I had in me.

Toughest day of my life with many, many lessons learnt
but an experience I will never forget and I will certainly try again next
year (with a bucket load more practice first).

Big shout out to Drewmarx - thanks for the helping hand there near the end (last 5km or so).
I fell over just behind him and my foot got pinned under the bike. Was proper stuck.
I tried to find you at the pits to say thanks but between my exhaustion and delusional
state I ended up as a heap of tired, clutched-out human in the back of my crew car.

Also for what it's worth (don't know if he is on the forum) but a gent called Kenny (sp), from PE I think,
gave me some water there at the end (I had run out with about 4km to go). Big thanks for that!
 
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Sithe on May 07, 2017, 09:35:57 pm
What was the nature of the route, looks like it was quite a fast one from the times , 100 kms in 4 hours ?
Quite the opposite Sithe,  it was 70km long and the most technical of all the qualifiers to date.
It took me 7hours 15min to complete and I finished 127th.
I have realized though that I am past my "sell by date" to do the Roof. :'(

What you mean then, you won't enter in November  :o. What was the problem, fitness ?

What passes were included in the route ?

Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 08, 2017, 08:08:55 am
Some cell phone pics I took, was a lovely day weather wise for the event and for a change was also well organised :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 08, 2017, 08:13:55 am
It was my first race in 5 years, with two knee ops and very little riding in between. Happy with my 31st. Just kak sore today

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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 08, 2017, 08:37:51 am
It was my first race in 5 years, with two knee ops and very little riding in between. Happy with my 31st. Just kak sore today

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Thats an awesome result! :thumleft:
Tristan and Taylor were riding together all the way until right at the base of Bushmans Tristan hooked a right and lost a lot of positions, Taylor came in 24th
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: MaxThePanda on May 08, 2017, 08:52:58 am
It was my first race in 5 years, with two knee ops and very little riding in between. Happy with my 31st. Just kak sore today

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Wow! That's an extremely impressive result if you haven't been riding much. The top 50 (and more) in Bronze aren't loitering around...
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 08, 2017, 09:31:45 am
Thanks. It has changed quite a bit since 2012!

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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 08, 2017, 09:35:35 am
The bronze has become a very competitive sub-event with riders who could arguably be silver contenders.

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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DREWMARX on May 08, 2017, 09:59:13 am
Howzit Chaps,

Qualifier was tough, lived up to the name of MOTHER of HARD ENDURO! DjfLoYd, you are most welcome, was fun riding the last few KM's with you guys!

I also only managed one loop, lost my front break because of a bent disc half way through the first loop and I basically crawled and scraped and kicked my bike down the passes, uphills were much nicer to me and didn't the front break that much. Will be back next year to give it a bash!

I think they made it purposefully tough to ensure that there aren't as many mishaps as last year. The guys that qualified this year are strong and fit and CAN ride a dirt bike that's for sure! Congratulations to all the competitors who took part and a special congratulations to all those that qualified!

Will definitely come and support you guys at the end of the year and lend a helping hand where I can!

Kind Regards

Drew
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 08, 2017, 10:03:03 am
I have to say this. The organisers ran a flawless event, from all that I could see. 10/10 for the entering process, documentation, communication, GPS coordinates, route markings, the route itself, timing, pits, the starting grid etc, etc. Well done!

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Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on May 08, 2017, 11:17:31 am
What was the nature of the route, looks like it was quite a fast one from the times , 100 kms in 4 hours ?
Quite the opposite Sithe,  it was 70km long and the most technical of all the qualifiers to date.
It took me 7hours 15min to complete and I finished 127th.
I have realized though that I am past my "sell by date" to do the Roof. :'(
What you mean then, you won't enter in November  :o. What was the problem, fitness ?
What passes were included in the route ?
Sithe, yes I doubt very much that I will enter the Roof. One needs to be extremely fit ( especially if you 50years old ) and with my long working hours I find it impossible to get time to do fitness training.
The other concern is the costs involved. I can do 15 fun rides in Lesotho for less than the cost of the actual Roof.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DjfLoYd on May 08, 2017, 01:34:56 pm
Losper,  any chance you can look at loop 1 and comment on what the passes names were?
I'd love to have a record of what passes I did on that loop for future reference.

I know for example on loop 2 they did Belecome and Bushmens.

Thanks dude and, again, congrats. At 50 that is some good riding!
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 08, 2017, 01:46:46 pm
Thanks. It has changed quite a bit since 2012!

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No doubt the Bronze is the old Silver.

Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 08, 2017, 01:49:05 pm
I have to say this. The organisers ran a flawless event, from all that I could see. 10/10 for the entering process, documentation, communication, GPS coordinates, route markings, the route itself, timing, pits, the starting grid etc, etc. Well done!

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I am pleased they have caught a wake up. Things had slid (excuse the pun) very badly over the past few years. I was worried that the mere slap on the wrist by MSA may not have been enough incentive to make meaningful changes. Lets hope ROA stay with the program.  :3some:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on May 08, 2017, 02:51:36 pm
Losper,  any chance you can look at loop 1 and comment on what the passes names were?
I'd love to have a record of what passes I did on that loop for future reference.
I know for example on loop 2 they did Belecome and Bushmens.
Thanks dude and, again, congrats. At 50 that is some good riding!
DjfLoYd,  none of the passes on Loop 1 was big enough ( technical enough ) to be named, so a far as I know they are not named yet but I think a lot of riders are gonna do training on that loop in the future so I will not be surprised if one or two of those "technical" sections are named.
The other reason is that there are only 7 Basutu huts in the immediate area of Loop1, so no Basutho names either. ( Btw, I slept in one of those huts a few years ago when daylight ran out)
The section along the waterfall is just know as "The Waterfall"
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: DjfLoYd on May 08, 2017, 08:41:12 pm
Shweet! Thanks.
I've got tons of names for most of that loop 1, none of which are polite
and fit to print here.  :lol8:



Losper,  any chance you can look at loop 1 and comment on what the passes names were?
I'd love to have a record of what passes I did on that loop for future reference.
I know for example on loop 2 they did Belecome and Bushmens.
Thanks dude and, again, congrats. At 50 that is some good riding!
DjfLoYd,  none of the passes on Loop 1 was big enough ( technical enough ) to be named, so a far as I know they are not named yet but I think a lot of riders are gonna do training on that loop in the future so I will not be surprised if one or two of those "technical" sections are named.
The other reason is that there are only 7 Basutu huts in the immediate area of Loop1, so no Basutho names either. ( Btw, I slept in one of those huts a few years ago when daylight ran out)
The section along the waterfall is just know as "The Waterfall"
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Epilot on May 09, 2017, 07:58:13 am
Well done to all who qualified, seems as if the organizers got it right this time. Will be interesting to see how much tougher the race will be.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Losper on May 09, 2017, 11:11:10 am
Well done to all who qualified, seems as if the organizers got it right this time. Will be interesting to see how much tougher the race will be.
Epilot,  if the qualifier is any indication of the difficulty level to be expected in November then the riders are in for a huge challenge.
Probably why they call the Roof  "The mother of all enduro"
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 09, 2017, 01:51:12 pm
It does seem as if every year the wick is turned up a bit more - guess it is the nature of extreme enduro (and extreme sport in general). Curtis reckoned he toned the qualifier down a bit  ::)
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 09, 2017, 03:00:39 pm
I have thought long and hard about it ever since the race, and I believe that the bronze has become too difficult, all things considered (based on my experience of the race since first competing in 2007). I am now seriously doubting whether I would want to enter the main race, despite qualifying well. If it is going to be anything like last year (which I've missed), I'm certainly out.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Epilot on May 09, 2017, 05:19:43 pm
Don't let the qualifier get you down, it is bronze after all. You know how you ride compared to your mates, if you qualified for bronze, you will more than likely finish the race. No one wants a roof medal that anyone can get! It must be earned.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Sithe on May 09, 2017, 09:06:58 pm
This is a quote from a rider on moto101

Quote
I did the quali 

My result isn't anything amazing but a definite improvement from last year. I'm still happy.

Just my 2c.

The two loops were really good fun, had a mix of everything in them. Although I would've preferred slightly more tech and less fast flowing routes. But that's just me...
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Avontier on May 09, 2017, 10:14:27 pm
This is a quote from a rider on moto101

Quote
I did the quali 

My result isn't anything amazing but a definite improvement from last year. I'm still happy.

Just my 2c.

The two loops were really good fun, had a mix of everything in them. Although I would've preferred slightly more tech and less fast flowing routes. But that's just me...


Great! Will it be Gold or Silver then?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Epilot on May 10, 2017, 07:21:19 am
Why bother with bronze if you want it harder?
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 10, 2017, 07:25:49 am
Thats also a typical moto101 forum response and why I no longer visit the site...real bunch of dick swinging going on there (wonder where he actually placed?)
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Epilot on May 10, 2017, 07:32:05 am
Probably would have won if he hadn't stopped to admire the view and help everybody else.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: edgy on May 10, 2017, 07:46:33 am
Probably would have won if he hadn't stopped to admire the view and help everybody else.
Exactly :lol8:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Sithe on May 10, 2017, 10:11:29 am
All this is to be blamed on a certain Mr. Graham Jarvis. This fellow has been going around the world making every extreme enduro race look like a flat track race. His riding skill is of a level supreme to anything ever thought possible on a motorbike.

In response to this, extreme enduro organisers have had to set routes to try and catch him out in the meantime punishing mere mortals who are brave enough to enter these events  >:D. The mortals have responded by upping their technical riding skills and now they are hungry for more. Most now complaint if a route requires changing up to anything close to third gear.

The modern extreme rider enjoys routes where you are stuck in first gear and every so often you can click to second for a quick spat between one rocky section and the next. Grab your popcorn and lets enjoy the show  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Epilot on May 10, 2017, 03:54:41 pm
Different strokes for different folks, take a look at Romaniacs the classes are well worked out for the riders. i.e. Hobby class does not do anything stupid.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: Sithe on May 11, 2017, 09:22:34 am
Different strokes for different folks, take a look at Romaniacs the classes are well worked out for the riders. i.e. Hobby class does not do anything stupid.

There is nothing nicer than spectating the Roof  O0 ... sitting there at the top of Freefall or Bushman's and watching people take 30 minutes to do just 500 meters ... and the finishing climb is classified "no help zone"  :deal:
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: CycleC on May 11, 2017, 02:48:48 pm
Different strokes for different folks, take a look at Romaniacs the classes are well worked out for the riders. i.e. Hobby class does not do anything stupid.

Romaniacs have exactly the same set up as the Roof except they introduced a TIN class which is lower than Bronze, I suppose you could call it hobby class , its really for guys wanting to spectate but also be parts of the event. It also helps with filling up their entry. The Gold at Romaniacs only gets around 35 entries with the lower classes making up the bulk of the entry. I suppose they could bring in a TIN class at the Roof but then again why would you want to water down an event that is known and marketed as one of the toughest races in the world.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: MaxThePanda on May 11, 2017, 04:04:43 pm
Different strokes for different folks, take a look at Romaniacs the classes are well worked out for the riders. i.e. Hobby class does not do anything stupid.

Romaniacs have exactly the same set up as the Roof except they introduced a TIN class which is lower than Bronze, I suppose you could call it hobby class , its really for guys wanting to spectate but also be parts of the event. It also helps with filling up their entry. The Gold at Romaniacs only gets around 35 entries with the lower classes making up the bulk of the entry. I suppose they could bring in a TIN class at the Roof but then again why would you want to water down an event that is known and marketed as one of the toughest races in the world.

They should do this but make the Tin class a one day event (like the qualifier) and the day before the Roof proper starts. These guys could try the Roof out and then spectate the main event - win for everyone.
Title: Re: Bronze qualifier 2017
Post by: BiG DoM on May 11, 2017, 06:32:32 pm
Sorry but do not think you should give ROA the idea or opportunity to prostitute the event and make it soft cock for the bucket list weekend warriors. It is the mother of extreme enduro for a reason - leave it that way. :3some: