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General => General Bike Related Banter => To Buy or Not To Buy => Topic started by: GSLaaitie on April 18, 2017, 12:54:06 pm

Title: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: GSLaaitie on April 18, 2017, 12:54:06 pm
I'm going to the department of traffic and children's nightmares to get my new bike from the previous owner's name onto mine.

Do you need a roadworthy certificate to changes owners, or just the copies of ID's and proof of residence?

What paperwork should I take with me to the department?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 18, 2017, 01:02:46 pm
Nee, nee, nee. Jy werk met groot geld kontrakte en dan weet jy nie hoe om 'n bike te koop nie. Ai  :pot: :lol8:

Gebruik 'n agent om dit vir jou te doen.

As die huidige eienaar die papiere in besit het:
- Roadworthy
- Blou form (kan van internet kry) (change of ownership form I think)
- ID
- Proof of residence
- Edit: En voertuig registrasie papiere natuurlik

Raai ook dat jy 'n koop kontrak optrek net om duidelikheid tussen jou en eienaar te verseker.
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Welsh on April 18, 2017, 01:04:02 pm
I'm going to the department of traffic and children's nightmares to get my new bike from the previous owner's name onto mine.

Do you need a roadworthy certificate to changes owners, or just the copies of ID's and proof of residence?

What paperwork should I take with me to the department?

Thanks!
I went and got the form and had someone who knows the process check the form and my documents before I went and it was easy, but it was a while ago.  8)
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Dwerg on April 18, 2017, 01:08:45 pm
Vir transfer of ownership is dit geel form, voertuig registrasie papier, id en bewys van verblyf
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Welsh on April 18, 2017, 01:10:31 pm
Vir transfer of ownership is dit geel form, voertuig registrasie papier, id en bewys van verblyf
sounds right  :sip:
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: GSLaaitie on April 18, 2017, 01:19:20 pm
Vir transfer of ownership is dit geel form, voertuig registrasie papier, id en bewys van verblyf
Dankie Dwerg.

So ek gaan my bewys van adres (nie syne), ons albei se ID's, registrasie papier en geen padwaardigheidsertifikaat vat.
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Dwerg on April 18, 2017, 01:22:37 pm
Dit behoort reg te wees. As jy te besig (of soos ek te lui) is vat dit na menlyn roadworthy toe of VLR in moreleta park. Jy betaal so bietjie ekstra en dit vat so 3 dae maar dan hoef jy nie in die ry te gaan staan nie
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Dirt Junkie on April 18, 2017, 01:27:59 pm
the forms can be downloaded here  http://www.enatis.com/index.php/downloads/cat_view/12-public/4-forms/8-road-traffic-related-forms?limit=5&limitstart=0&order=hits&dir=DESC (http://www.enatis.com/index.php/downloads/cat_view/12-public/4-forms/8-road-traffic-related-forms?limit=5&limitstart=0&order=hits&dir=DESC)
you will need the NCO and RLV forms

Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: GSLaaitie on April 18, 2017, 01:30:26 pm
the forms can be downloaded here  http://www.enatis.com/index.php/downloads/cat_view/12-public/4-forms/8-road-traffic-related-forms?limit=5&limitstart=0&order=hits&dir=DESC (http://www.enatis.com/index.php/downloads/cat_view/12-public/4-forms/8-road-traffic-related-forms?limit=5&limitstart=0&order=hits&dir=DESC)
you will need the NCO and RLV forms

Cool, thanks.

So it is both the blue form and the yellow form.

Dwerg, die idee van daardie VLR plekke is baie goed, maar laas keer het ek langer in die tou gestaan by hulle as by die departement self!
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Dirt Junkie on April 18, 2017, 01:34:30 pm
yes both
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: 1190 on April 18, 2017, 01:38:19 pm
If you sign a letter of authorization you can send someone else...I always send my mom :thumleft:
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 18, 2017, 01:46:53 pm
Vir transfer of ownership is dit geel form, voertuig registrasie papier, id en bewys van verblyf

Yellow form (NCO) must be handed in by the seller
Blue form (RLV) the buyer will need to hand in.

The buyer can also hand in the yellow form if the seller trust him to do so. Or not hand it in at all if you as seller know the vehicle is registered in the buyers name as the RLV overrides it.
The purpose of the NCO form is to notify natis not to send fines and licences to the seller anymore. How often do you hear that the buyer did not register the vehicle and the seller can't remember who he sold it to.
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Dwerg on April 18, 2017, 01:52:51 pm
Yes sorry you are 100% right. I've handed in yellow only as a seller. I remember I had to do blue as well with the last bike I bought but it doesn't require certificate of roadworthy. You just won't get a licence disc if not supplied
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on April 18, 2017, 02:01:56 pm
I remember I had to do blue as well with the last bike I bought but it doesn't require certificate of roadworthy. You just won't get a licence disc if not supplied

I used Pro Auto in Wekker Straat. No waiting and in and out in a minute with parking right in front of their door.  They actually handed me back the yellow form.
Yes, without roadworthy I got it in my name and licence up to date but just no licence disc so can't ride it legally on the road.
Title: Re: Paperwork in ZA when buying a bike privately
Post by: GSLaaitie on April 18, 2017, 02:05:34 pm
Yes sorry you are 100% right. I've handed in yellow only as a seller. I remember I had to do blue as well with the last bike I bought but it doesn't require certificate of roadworthy. You just won't get a licence disc if not supplied
Are you saying that you do not get a licence disk if you do not supply a blue form, or if you do not supply a certificate of roadworthy?
The licence disc seems like something I may need...