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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => BMW 1200 LC => Topic started by: Noneking on July 07, 2017, 08:11:18 am

Title: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Noneking on July 07, 2017, 08:11:18 am
Looks like the Ducati and KTM dash
Getting uglier if you ask me...... :peepwall:


Title: Re: New spec Adventure with TFT display
Post by: Noneking on July 07, 2017, 08:16:06 am
https://riders.drivemag.com/news/bmw-r1200gs-adventure-update-tft-dash-rallye-version
Title: Re: New spec Adventure with TFT display
Post by: Koet on July 07, 2017, 08:19:46 am
Bottom 2 screenshots are clearly photoshopped/made up.  Doesn't look like the first shot of the display on the bike.

This will probably add R20k to the price, with no real improvement to the bike itself.

And why do they keep making these new 1200s uglier and uglier every year?!?

From the article:
Pro riding modes with additional “Dynamic” and “Enduro” riding modes.
Using a coding plug, the “Dynamic” mode is changed to “Dynamic Pro” and the “Enduro” mode to “Enduro Pro” mode. The Proriding mode continues to feature ABS Pro

Shift Assistant Proas a new component of the Dynamic Package

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

I swear I'm not making this shit up!
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Heimer on July 07, 2017, 09:07:50 am
Hulle fok rond - ons soek weer 'n HP2
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Noneking on July 07, 2017, 09:09:03 am
Hulle fok rond - ons soek weer 'n HP2

Ons het een!!
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 07, 2017, 10:12:06 am
Wel dit maak sin. Ietwat goedkoper om te vervaardig as een met naalde, ens. Alhoewel, my oë sukkel om klein nommers te lees, so ek hou van naalde want mens kan met 'n baie vinniger blik op die naald steeds bepaal wat dit probeer sę. Dis ook hoekom, dink ek, baie vervaardigers wat reeds afskeid geneem het van die fisiese naalde steeds 'n naald teken op hulle skerm, ala Audi, Mercedes, ens.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 07, 2017, 10:14:06 am
Iets anders... ek sien 'n seinsterkte aanduiding, en 'n telefoontjie... as dit nou nie geshop is nie, dan beteken dit hulle bou bluetooth in... awsome!

En... het ons dan nog 'n Navigator nodig? Want hulle het nou 'n skerm om 'n kaart op te kan teken...
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 07, 2017, 10:56:14 am
Iets anders... ek sien 'n seinsterkte aanduiding, en 'n telefoontjie... as dit nou nie geshop is nie, dan beteken dit hulle bou bluetooth in... awsome!

En... het ons dan nog 'n Navigator nodig? Want hulle het nou 'n skerm om 'n kaart op te kan teken...

Dit moet Bluetooth hę want hulle sę jy kan aan jou selfoon se maps konnekteer en dan word daai screen jou GPS.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Noneking on July 07, 2017, 04:56:16 pm
Thomas Bohm took this pic at Motorrad days in Germany. Navigator 6 with TFT display




(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170707/5b96410673d92bd733aae85857d49eb6.jpg)
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 07, 2017, 05:58:43 pm
I just reread that bit.  I can link to the smartphone and provide navigation, but it seems rudimentary, so most would still prefer to use a GPS device such as the Navigator.

"The 6.5 inch full color TFT Display will be accessed through the handlebar controller and can be connected to your smartphone providing navigation.."

Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 07, 2017, 07:02:43 pm
So... who else noticed the S.O.S button on the handlebar? Also, I kind of like the black buttons (on the handlebar controls), looks way better than the grey ones.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Bundu on July 07, 2017, 08:54:17 pm
die nuwe KTM 1290's het dit ook nou, maar die BMW lyk sover meer refined - die screens raak al goedkoper en sal vorentoe die standaard wees dink ek
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Draadwerk on July 07, 2017, 09:19:55 pm
Sien Amerikaners praat van touch screen en dat dit werklik is skynbaar
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: The TRANSPORTER on July 08, 2017, 08:05:53 am
Die Ducati se tft screen bevat van 2015 af die Bluetooth funksie en al jou oproepe en smse kom deur op jou screen asook jou musiek wat op jou foon gelaai is , baie goed en beter.

Multimedia alles in een, maak dit net soveel makliker en geriefliker. Swart knoppe op handlebars lyk vir my ook beter. :drif:
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: m0lt3n on July 08, 2017, 08:33:32 am
Lyk my bmw is vinniger om in te haal op tegnologie as wat dit is om stanchion issues uit te sort!
Darm n klompie comments hier wat praat asof hulle nie weet dat die tft klaar uit is op die nuwe 1290 ktms nie. En daar was nog bitter bitter min negatiewe kommentaar daarop. Ek like dit, maar as dit n ekstra op die bmw gaan wees gaan hulle baie punte verloor.

Ek sal nogal graag wil weet of bmw nou ook n bosch eenheid soos ktm se tft gaan in sit. Die nuwe rallye en exclusive het klaar n briek sisteem soortgekyk aan die ou 1190 ook nou eers gekry, ook bosch. Dalk begin Bosch aandele koop!
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 08, 2017, 11:47:55 am
So... who else noticed the S.O.S button on the handlebar? Also, I kind of like the black buttons (on the handlebar controls), looks way better than the grey ones.

If I remember correctly, the K1600 already had the S.O.S facility in Europe since 2016, or so.  Invariably will make its way to all bikes, all over.

Have to say, I also like the black buttons.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 08, 2017, 11:51:07 am
Darm n klompie comments hier wat praat asof hulle nie weet dat die tft klaar uit is op die nuwe 1290 ktms nie.

Wys asb gou vir my daai comments?  Ek sien hulle nie.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: lpj on July 08, 2017, 12:16:35 pm
Is 95km/h @ 5000rpm in 5e rat nie bietjie stadig nie?
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 08, 2017, 12:26:24 pm
Is 95km/h @ 5000rpm in 5e rat nie bietjie stadig nie?

Well spotted!   :laughing4:

Ek dink die meeste van die fotos hier is maar kunstenaar voorstellings.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Draadwerk on July 08, 2017, 12:46:35 pm
Darm n klompie comments hier wat praat asof hulle nie weet dat die tft klaar uit is op die nuwe 1290 ktms nie.

Wys asb gou vir my daai comments?  Ek sien hulle nie.
As 'n man 'n KTM begin ry sukkel jy met die lees jong
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Bundu on July 08, 2017, 01:18:26 pm
ek wonder of hulle beplan dat die GPS op die console gaan wys, want 5de foto wys nog GPS en nuwe console apart?
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 08, 2017, 01:30:55 pm
ek wonder of hulle beplan dat die GPS op die console gaan wys, want 5de foto wys nog GPS en nuwe console apart?

Op die oomblik skynbaar nie.

I just reread that bit.  I can link to the smartphone and provide navigation, but it seems rudimentary, so most would still prefer to use a GPS device such as the Navigator.

"The 6.5 inch full color TFT Display will be accessed through the handlebar controller and can be connected to your smartphone providing navigation.."

Volgends die foto wat ek saam die bogenoemde pos geplaas het, is dit net die pyltjie wat heen en weer draai om pad te wys, maar ek wonder, hoe moeilik kan dit wees om 'n GPS antenna iewers op die bike in te bou en die kaarte en GPS sagteware in die TFT in te bou?
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Bundu on July 08, 2017, 01:41:00 pm
ek wonder of hulle beplan dat die GPS op die console gaan wys, want 5de foto wys nog GPS en nuwe console apart?

Op die oomblik skynbaar nie.

I just reread that bit.  I can link to the smartphone and provide navigation, but it seems rudimentary, so most would still prefer to use a GPS device such as the Navigator.

"The 6.5 inch full color TFT Display will be accessed through the handlebar controller and can be connected to your smartphone providing navigation.."

Volgends die foto wat ek saam die bogenoemde pos geplaas het, is dit net die pyltjie wat heen en weer draai om pad te wys, maar ek wonder, hoe moeilik kan dit wees om 'n GPS antenna iewers op die bike in te bou en die kaarte en GPS sagteware in die TFT in te bou?

ek sou beslis 'n 'all in one' ding verkies en kan aan geen rede dink hoekom dit nie moontlik is nie

enigste probleem, soos met my kar, gaan 'n map-update weer 'n fortuin kos  :'(
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 08, 2017, 01:46:10 pm
... ek wonder, hoe moeilik kan dit wees om 'n GPS antenna iewers op die bike in te bou en die kaarte en GPS sagteware in die TFT in te bou?
Hoegenaamd nie 'n maklike taak nie. Doenbaar, natuurlik, maar ontwikkelingskoste van so stelsel beloop miljoene. En ek praat nie van rande nie.

Hulle doen dit natuurlik reeds vir hulle motors, en kan dus van daardie tegnologie leen. Maar ek vermoed dis op hierdie stadium vir hulle goedkoper om 'n deal te behou met Garmin  as om self to stelsel te bou.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 08, 2017, 07:49:12 pm
https://web.facebook.com/BMWMotorrad/videos/10155363677213467/

Die video wys so bietjie meer wat die TFT ding kan doen.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 09, 2017, 07:38:40 pm
So the TFT's navigation option is basically just relaying the navigation instructions of your smartphone. I see they refer to the BMW iDrive app on the smartphone, so it does not seem that it will integrate with other nav apps like Tom-Tom, Google, iOS maps, etc.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: krokonoster on July 09, 2017, 07:56:26 pm
Is that the only change to the existing model then?  (yeah yeah, better forks.  lol)
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 09, 2017, 08:09:38 pm
Is that the only change to the existing model then?  (yeah yeah, better forks.  lol)

For now this will be an optional extra.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: luv2ride on July 09, 2017, 08:38:43 pm
More shit to distract people while on the road.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 09, 2017, 09:18:53 pm
More shit to distract people while on the road.

NOOIT!  The German doing the presentation at the launch was at pains to explain how this is less distracting than a normal instrument panel and we know Germans, they would never be wrong.   :imaposer:

 
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: luv2ride on July 10, 2017, 05:26:35 am
More shit to distract people while on the road.

NOOIT!  The German doing the presentation at the launch was at pains to explain how this is less distracting than a normal instrument panel and we know Germans, they would never be wrong.   :imaposer:

 
There is marketing and bullshit and yet again the latter is the case :imaposer:

Did he also mention that it is unbreakable - in my view just another piece fancy electronics that will be troublesome, mark my words  :deal:
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 10, 2017, 06:51:11 am
More shit to distract people while on the road.

NOOIT!  The German doing the presentation at the launch was at pains to explain how this is less distracting than a normal instrument panel and we know Germans, they would never be wrong.   :imaposer:

 
There is marketing and bullshit and yet again the latter is the case :imaposer:

Did he also mention that it is unbreakable - in my view just another piece fancy electronics that will be troublesome, mark my words  :deal:

He didn't have to say it is unbreakable.  It is BMW therefore unbreakable is automatically implied.   :patch: :lol8:

A year from now, 99,9% of BMW's will be sold with this TFT thingy.  Another year and it will become standard and hate it, or love it, you will have to live with it.  In 1988 I had a 2.0GSi Kadett with such a digital dash.  I hated it.  Hopefully in 30 years it improved a tad.   :imaposer:
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: OomD on July 10, 2017, 07:14:09 am
Is that the only change to the existing model then?  (yeah yeah, better forks.  lol)

For now this will be an optional extra.
The TFT? Or the forks?  :lol8:
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Shaun500 on July 10, 2017, 07:46:31 am
The TFT displays are creeping in to the high end cars these days.  It's an option on VW's.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: TheBear on July 10, 2017, 05:00:51 pm
Is that the only change to the existing model then?  (yeah yeah, better forks.  lol)

For now this will be an optional extra.
The TFT? Or the forks?  :lol8:

Forks are standard.  Forks that don't fall off is optional extra.   :imaposer:
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: BennNevis on August 13, 2017, 03:41:38 pm
Navi in my opinion will fall away for general road use. New dash will do the google maps car play function.
Title: Re: New spec BMW GS and GSA with TFT display
Post by: Copernicus on August 17, 2017, 03:12:42 pm
It is very handy to carry your GPS to your desktop to connect to Basecamp or whatever.  I would not want to lose that option.