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General => General Bike Related Banter => Topic started by: JourneySA on November 07, 2017, 07:45:44 am

Title: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: JourneySA on November 07, 2017, 07:45:44 am
lyk asof Honda geluister het na die mark - die 2018 version kom met 'n klomp goeie upgrades :

- groter tenk
- beter ground clearance (maar laer seat?)
- flat seat
- crash bars standard
- decent sump guard - laat my die aan die rd03 / rd04 s'n
- beter windscreen
- beter suspension
- ride by wire throttle
- beter traction & extra ride modes
- hrc colour scheme

laat my altyd wonder hoekom hulle nie van die begin af al die dinge bygesit het nie - marketing plan?

waneer die outjie ge release word dink ek nie daar sal baie wees wat kan kers vas hou nie - wat dink julle?


Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Butch on November 07, 2017, 07:53:17 am
waneer die outjie ge release word dink ek nie daar sal baie wees wat kan kers vas hou nie - wat dink julle?

Jy praat seker van die prys  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: wiledog_X on November 07, 2017, 08:34:27 am
Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L2 - how to make a great bike even better!  :thumleft:

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/2018-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sports/

(http://www.advpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Honda-Africa-Twin-Adventure-Sports-CRF-1000L-2.jpg)

(http://www.advpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Honda-Africa-Twin-Adventure-Sports-CRF-1000L-6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: sidetrack on November 07, 2017, 08:59:42 am
Reminds me even more of the RD04  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Renrew on November 07, 2017, 09:05:56 am
Does anyone have the exact specs relating to suspension travel? I read 9.6” to 10.6” but that can’t be, it’s almost 275mm...
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: RobLH on November 07, 2017, 09:24:16 am
Suspension (front):   Showa 45mm cartridge-type inverted fork with hydraulic preload and damping (compression & rebound) adjuster, 9.9 in. (252mm) stroke, 8.8 in. (224mm) axle travel
Suspension (rear):   Cast aluminium swing arm with Pro-Link linkage, hydraulic preload and rebound damping adjustment, 9.5 in. (240mm) rear wheel travel, 101 mm stroke
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: XRRX on November 07, 2017, 09:45:13 am
It is great to see the Japs really committing to Adv biking again!!!
Wasn't expecting to see so many improvements to an already brilliant bike after just 2 years...  :thumleft: O0 :drif:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Rossdog on November 07, 2017, 10:05:18 am
I like it! My "heavy" DS bike of choice. Let's hope I can sell a house or 2 in 2018!!!
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: RobLH on November 07, 2017, 10:10:47 am
I see they are expecting it to be USD 2,000 more expensive than the standard version, which, by the time it gets here could mean R30 grand more than the current version. Worth it?
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Edgar on November 07, 2017, 10:11:36 am
I like the colour scheme on the bike.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on November 07, 2017, 10:15:21 am
They are also going to map that auto so that you can pull away in 2nd in sand with traction control off..

This bike is going to be the benchmark for adventure bikes
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: shanti on November 07, 2017, 10:21:32 am
I see they have changed the foot peg attachment from the cast aluminum item to a all steel item - that's a good improvement in my opinion .
I wonder if some of the upgrades will be able to be used on the previous model  ?
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Hinksding on November 07, 2017, 10:29:33 am

- groter tenk                                                          Great!
- beter ground clearance (maar laer seat?)          Beter gc! Great!  Laer seat....ummm. Ek wil nie voel asof ek weer 'n GS ry nie. Ek like dit om OP 'n motrofiets te sit, nie IN hom nie.
- flat seat                                                               Waarom is dit 'n verbetering? Luggage wat jy vasmaak is geneig om vorentoe te beweeg, veral as jy staan op grondpad moet opstaan deur dippe en knikke (Moet asb nie aanneem ek kan nie luggage vasmaak nie )       
- crash bars standard
- decent sump guard - laat my die aan die rd03 / rd04 s'n
- beter windscreen                                                 'n Hoër screen sal werk vir die langer garde, veral teen hoë spoed en as dit verstelbaar is.
- beter suspension                                                 Wat is beter? Langer travel? Beter damping en rebound? Die standaard een was vir my klaar goed. ;D
- ride by wire throttle                                              Hoekom is dit 'n verbetering?
- beter traction & extra ride modes                       
- hrc colour scheme

Ek hou bitter baie van die huidige een, ek sou net 'n groter tenk verkies, oja en heated grips en tjoeplis tyres. ::)
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Kaboef on November 07, 2017, 10:39:25 am
Just a few more improvements and it will almost be on par with a KTM 950.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Omninorm on November 07, 2017, 11:30:52 am
Just a few more improvements and it will almost be on par with a KTM 950.

Yeah like going on a lekker diet.

Bike looks awesome, and definitely better now. I am just disappointed to not see tubeless rims.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Kortbroek on November 07, 2017, 11:32:46 am
 :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: RobC on November 07, 2017, 11:41:15 am
Damn... someone really listened about the seat! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: blauth on November 07, 2017, 11:45:12 am
This bike truly look outstanding. Just about all the upgrades are proper and pretty much what clients are always upgrading anyway and for me I appreciate that the back doesn't have that clunky hand rail thingy that the current one has. It's very much like the ingenuity of the RD03 but will undoubtedly be waaaay better.

I'll seriously consider going into lots of debt for this bike when it arrives.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Roxtar on November 07, 2017, 12:03:07 pm
BRING IT ON......  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: XRRX on November 07, 2017, 03:51:00 pm
 :deal:

Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: JAS on November 07, 2017, 08:23:02 pm
Did they do anything to the engine ?   HP ? Same ?

Looks very nice !!  :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: XRRX on November 07, 2017, 08:44:58 pm
Did they do anything to the engine ?   HP ? Same ?

Looks very nice !!  :ricky: :ricky:

They quote same numbers - but claim improved mid-range response ... due to changes in air box and lighter balancer shaft ...
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: sidetrack on November 07, 2017, 10:27:23 pm
Just a few more improvements and it will almost be on par with a KTM 950.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: volroom on November 08, 2017, 05:48:56 am
It is great to see the Japs really committing to Adv biking again!!!
Wasn't expecting to see so many improvements to an already brilliant bike after just 2 years...  :thumleft: O0 :drif:

perhaps because these were selling like hotcakes... I think they need to do better market research

we need a higher seat option too!
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Striggs on November 08, 2017, 07:19:22 am
Now I get it, the one in all the pics and video is actually a added model to the range.  As previously mentioned, will most likely cost an extra 30k. A bit like the GS vs GSA in the BMW range.

The seat height is not lower, actually 50mm higher than std bike.  Incidentally my favorite thing about the AT is that is great for us kort okes. I guess if you want better travel/suspension, can't do that without increasing height of the bike. I did consider buying a taller screen at some point, just catches my peak, found myself crouching a bit to get out of the wind. They have sorted that out!

All in all it's going to make reasonably light bike a bit heavier... bigger tank, bash plate etc. 

Must say it looks fantastic...

The pricing is going to be interesting...
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Hardy de Kock on November 08, 2017, 07:30:02 am
It is great to see the Japs really committing to Adv biking again!!!
Wasn't expecting to see so many improvements to an already brilliant bike after just 2 years...  :thumleft: O0 :drif:

perhaps because these were selling like hotcakes... I think they need to do better market research

we need a higher seat option too!

Volroom
Honda does have a higher seat (+- 30mm) as well as a lower seat option on the current AT range. Can I get someone to call you regarding this option.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: shanti on November 08, 2017, 07:45:40 am
There seems to be some great practical upgrades to the new AT -
My question to someone in the know at Honda would be what if any of the upgrades can be crossed over to those off us that already own the 2016AT namely
- The steel option for the footpeg holder - this is a great upgrade as the cast ali one as the potential to break and fixing thhis in a remote place could prove troublesome - better to be able to find a welder and fix the new steel one .
- The revised passenger peg holder - this new version is more tucked in and an improvement on the old sticky out design that finds the back off your legs sometimes .
- Revised engine mapping for starting in sand in second on the DCT model - is this a software upgrade and directly transferable ?
- The grab handles on the new AT also look fantastic and a good looking upgrade to the older plastic ones ( not a must have but interesting to see if its a direct swop ) 
- and any other of the new upgrades that can be transferred too the older model
Cheers Derek
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: JonnyP on November 08, 2017, 08:25:53 am

- The grab handles on the new AT also look fantastic and a good looking upgrade to the older plastic ones ( not a must have but interesting to see if its a direct swop ) 
- and any other of the new upgrades that can be transferred too the older model


Would also be interested in the new grab handles.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Fransw on November 12, 2017, 12:05:01 pm
There seems to be some great practical upgrades to the new AT -
My question to someone in the know at Honda would be what if any of the upgrades can be crossed over to those off us that already own the 2016AT namely
- The steel option for the footpeg holder - this is a great upgrade as the cast ali one as the potential to break and fixing thhis in a remote place could prove troublesome - better to be able to find a welder and fix the new steel one .
- The revised passenger peg holder - this new version is more tucked in and an improvement on the old sticky out design that finds the back off your legs sometimes .
- Revised engine mapping for starting in sand in second on the DCT model - is this a software upgrade and directly transferable ?
- The grab handles on the new AT also look fantastic and a good looking upgrade to the older plastic ones ( not a must have but interesting to see if its a direct swop ) 
- and any other of the new upgrades that can be transferred too the older model
Cheers Derek

Derek, the fuel upgrade is easy with a Camel tank installation!..

Edit: 25l in total! :thumleft:

Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: dirt rat on November 12, 2017, 12:20:21 pm
Now the dct sport is heavier than my 1150gs.
That saves me a lot of money.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on November 12, 2017, 08:15:14 pm
Damn, everything I mentioned in my review, hope they swapped the indicators and the hooter button positions too ...

... anyone interested in buying a kitted out Tri Colour ‘16 model ... might need to upgrade now.

 8)
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: volroom on November 13, 2017, 06:02:51 am
Damn, everything I mentioned in my review, hope they swapped the indicators and the hooter button positions too ...

... anyone interested in buying a kitted out Tri Colour ‘16 model ... might need to upgrade now.

 8)
yeah... somewhere in the future I see myself on one of these. my request: tubeless pls!

I actually like that it does not have too much power, and is not too lightweight. We don't all want to do motocross on our bikes. Happy to just hit the gravel and go adventure, and on tar I can't get myself into too much trouble with high speeds. I don't want a bike that can do 250km/h, I don't want the option
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: GAW on January 23, 2018, 07:48:08 pm
So I ask a Honda dealer today when we can expect the “new”  model and get told Honda SA haven’t committed to bringing these in yet.

Followed by “we got really good deals on existing models”

I assume this is just “ sales speak”  ??

Any idea when we will see the 2018 models and the “new” one in dealers?
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 23, 2018, 09:18:55 pm
So I ask a Honda dealer today when we can expect the “new”  model and get told Honda SA haven’t committed to bringing these in yet.

Followed by “we got really good deals on existing models”

I assume this is just “ sales speak”  ??

Any idea when we will see the 2018 models and the “new” one in dealers?

Are you finally getting rid of that boring BreakMyWallet? Then I can do a ride with you again. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: GAW on January 23, 2018, 09:39:45 pm
So I ask a Honda dealer today when we can expect the “new”  model and get told Honda SA haven’t committed to bringing these in yet.

Followed by “we got really good deals on existing models”

I assume this is just “ sales speak”  ??

Any idea when we will see the 2018 models and the “new” one in dealers?

Are you finally getting rid of that boring BreakMyWallet? Then I can do a ride with you again. :thumleft:

Just looking 😜

With all the metal we got we may need something bigger tho’
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: 2StrokeDan on January 23, 2018, 09:42:54 pm
So I ask a Honda dealer today when we can expect the “new”  model and get told Honda SA haven’t committed to bringing these in yet.

Followed by “we got really good deals on existing models”

I assume this is just “ sales speak”  ??

Any idea when we will see the 2018 models and the “new” one in dealers?

Are you finally getting rid of that boring BreakMyWallet? Then I can do a ride with you again. :thumleft:

Just looking 😜

With all the metal we got we may need something bigger tho’

 :imaposer: although the titanium pins are probably lighter than the marrow it replaces. :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: volroom on January 24, 2018, 06:32:54 am
So I ask a Honda dealer today when we can expect the “new”  model and get told Honda SA haven’t committed to bringing these in yet.

Followed by “we got really good deals on existing models”

I assume this is just “ sales speak”  ??

Any idea when we will see the 2018 models and the “new” one in dealers?

Also wonder about that
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Brewed_Coffee on January 24, 2018, 08:19:14 am
lyk asof Honda geluister het na die mark - die 2018 version kom met 'n klomp goeie upgrades :

- groter tenk
- beter ground clearance (maar laer seat?)
- flat seat
- crash bars standard
- decent sump guard - laat my die aan die rd03 / rd04 s'n
- beter windscreen
- beter suspension
- ride by wire throttle
- beter traction & extra ride modes
- hrc colour scheme

Do you really think the ride-by-wire is an improvement? And standard crash bars will mean boxes from Honda at inflated prices....?

My 2c worth...
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Bwana on January 24, 2018, 12:34:31 pm
I have been told the 2 new models arrives in August. The standard Model with the upgrades and the New Adventure.
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on January 24, 2018, 01:32:36 pm
I have been told the 2 new models arrives in August. The standard Model with the upgrades and the New Adventure.

Finally some indication of ETA ... great!

I like all the improvements stated ... and will admit that slowly the colour scheme is also growing on me ... something about 50th anniversary ?

 8)
Title: Re: Africa Twin 2018
Post by: Battlestar on January 24, 2018, 03:00:06 pm
Have they made access to the air filter easier?