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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC8 1050 / 1190 / 1290 => Topic started by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:44:20 pm

Title: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:44:20 pm
So i was finally convinced to let go of my fanatical, excessive and compulsive 990 addiction and have just bought a brand new 1090 R.  :) 8)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on November 13, 2017, 05:46:40 pm
Congrats, AWESOME machine absolute thing of beauty. :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:48:48 pm
 :thumleft: :thumleft: Thanks Cocky

I started the Adventure biking thing in 2010 and owned 4 Adventure baaiks . . . No I was lucky enough to have owned 4 of the BEST adventure baaik ever built. >:D Started with a 2005 Model 950 Adventure, then a 2008 990 Adventure, then 2012 990 Adventure and then current 2012 990 Adventure ARRRRR. So yeah i have a bit of a bias towards the 990 and will off course compare the new KTM to the 990  ;) But more of that later 1sly some detail and peechers of the pleasure and also painful (To the wallet) process to get this new baaik grondpad ready  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:53:12 pm
Headlight Protector from Hyde. Liked this one for the little Orange piece at the bottom but was thinking that that was orange lens which it turned out not to be. It is sticker, so not giving me the effect of Orange i wanted. Will probably change to the full orange one. I prefer to be seen on the commute on the Gauteng highways
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:54:48 pm
RIM TAPE  :thumleft: CAUSE WE MUST HAVE RIM TAPE >:D
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 13, 2017, 05:55:35 pm
Awesome congrats! Fantastic bike, got mine 2 months ago and I love every minute on it, smiles for miles
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:56:17 pm
KameelToon  >:D
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bligw on November 13, 2017, 05:56:51 pm
Lekker man lekker. Love the rim tape. Will get some
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:57:34 pm
Awesome congrats! Fantastic bike, got mine 2 months ago and I love every minute on it, smiles for miles

 :thumleft: :thumleft: Congrats their too. Jip so far verry happy  8)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 05:59:32 pm
Then off course immediately had fitted the :
* Uni filter
* Bad fuel dongle
* Center stand

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 13, 2017, 06:01:40 pm
KameelToon  >:D
Where did you get this from? Been looking and no one seems to have stock
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:02:54 pm
Then had the following fitted as well:
* SW Motech Bar raisers
* SW Motech BellyPlate
* SW Motech rear carrier plate
* Exan stainless black silencer

Will load some photis soon  :) 8)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:03:20 pm
KameelToon  >:D
Where did you get this from? Been looking and no one seems to have stock
Rad Moto
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:14:29 pm
Exan silencer  >:D >:D >:D >:D I did not last 2 days riding with standard silencer.
There should be a law against riding a Vtwin with that piece of rubbish.  :lol8:

So now with pipe and carrier plate so the Top box is back on.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 06:31:01 pm
nice looking bike, congrats!  :thumleft: :drif:

would love to hear your feelings on how it compares to the 990A R

the full orange headlight protector works well, clips off easily at night and is nice and bright if you ride with DRL OFF during the day  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:38:20 pm
nice looking bike, congrats!  :thumleft: :drif:

would love to hear your feelings on how it compares to the 990A R

the full orange headlight protector works well, clips off easily at night and is nice and bright if you ride with DRL OFF during the day  :thumleft:
Hi Bundu thanks very much.
Jip i will be posting my experience on this against the 990. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:49:14 pm
Carrier plate with bobbins for Top box. For the commute.
Dirt i use either the 30l or 40l ATG drybags with Rox straps
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:51:07 pm
SW Motech bashplate. Darram so bietjie goedkoper as KTM se plaat. I like the black side panels  8)
Fitted myself as well and straight forward to fit.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Offshore on November 13, 2017, 06:52:33 pm
Congratulations, that is a Beaut and I have heard only good things about the 1090. It makes a lot of sense to pick that one out of the current Bunch. 
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:53:16 pm
SW Motech bar raisers. I know there is very diff opinions on this but i have always liked riding with raisers.
And their raisers have also come a long way in the looks category   ;)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 06:54:59 pm
Congratulations, that is a Beaut and I have heard only good things about the 1090. It makes a lot of sense to pick that one out of the current Bunch.
Hi Offshore thanks very much. Yeah at standard pricing  i think the 1290 will probably still win, but at the blowout sale price this made a lot of sense  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 07:01:00 pm
Then what is left on the wish list  :patch:  :)
Well still wanna do:
* GPS Bracket
* Front fork air bleeders
* Barkbuster allu insert barkbusters
* Side frame protectors to protect against boot damage
* Tubless repair kit
* 12v Socket that can drive compressor

But thats probably only gonna happen after i come out of the ICU after my wife has seen the invoice for this round  :patch: :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 07:09:34 pm
spotlights?

my bike has a cigarette lighter (not sure if standard on the 1090?) and it can power my compressor as is - capacity is 10A
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Offshore on November 13, 2017, 07:26:47 pm
Bundu, if there is one thing I can criticize on the 990 then I would have to say the Shitty Headlight on Dim and Bright, is it still a Issue on the Class we are talking about?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 07:30:10 pm
Hi Bundu never been a big spotlight fan and i think the 1090 (well eish any bike ) probably has better lights than the 990  :biggrin:
On the 1090 to get to the better wight and price they have left out some stuff and the cigarette lighter power point is one of those  :P
 
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 07:34:46 pm
Bundu, if there is one thing I can criticize on the 990 then I would have to say the Shitty Headlight on Dim and Bright, is it still a Issue on the Class we are talking about?
I don't know what the new 1290S and R LEDs are like, but my bike has the same headlights as the 1090 and they are pretty shitty - with my 30W spotlights it's OK, but people have flashed me at night
Seeing that an upgraded 1290T won't be available next year, I won't be upgrading, and I'm looking into having my standard headlight globes replaced with LEDs

Hi Bundu never been a big spotlight fan and i think the 1090 (well eish any bike ) probably has better lights than the 990  :biggrin:
On the 1090 to get to the better wight and price they have left out some stuff and the cigarette lighter power point is one of those  :P

if you're commuting, spots do help quite a bit with daytime visibilty - very easy to fit on our bikes  :deal:


edit: if no cig lighter, I wonder if you'll have the ACC1 and ACC2 connections at the front and rear?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Offshore on November 13, 2017, 07:35:04 pm
So the Lights are not ok then? Sorry.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 07:40:56 pm
Bundu, if there is one thing I can criticize on the 990 then I would have to say the Shitty Headlight on Dim and Bright, is it still a Issue on the Class we are talking about?
I don't know what the new 1290S and R LEDs are like, but my bike has the same headlights as the 1090 and they are pretty shitty - with my 30W spotlights it's OK, but people have flashed me at night
Seeing that an upgraded 1290T won't be available next year, I won't be upgrading, and I'm looking into having my standard headlight globes replaced with LEDs

Hi Bundu never been a big spotlight fan and i think the 1090 (well eish any bike ) probably has better lights than the 990  :biggrin:
On the 1090 to get to the better wight and price they have left out some stuff and the cigarette lighter power point is one of those  :P

if you're commuting, spots do help quite a bit with daytime visibilty - very easy to fit on our bikes  :deal:


edit: if no cig lighter, I wonder if you'll have the ACC1 and ACC2 connections at the front and rear?
I have not ridden after dark yet on the 1090.
I know Kurt has raved to me on the lights on his 1290R
One thing i do know that i will go the spots route if light do become an issue. Will not do the HID thing again. Both my brother and me had issues with the HID on our 990's
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 07:43:20 pm
I have not ridden after dark yet on the 1090.
I know Kurt has raved to me on the lights on his 1290R
One thing i do know that i will go the spots route if light do become an issue. Will not do the HID thing again. Both my brother and me had issues with the HID on our 990's
:thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 13, 2017, 07:54:03 pm
I have not ridden after dark yet on the 1090.
I know Kurt has raved to me on the lights on his 1290R
One thing i do know that i will go the spots route if light do become an issue. Will not do the HID thing again. Both my brother and me had issues with the HID on our 990's
:thumleft:

Just saw your fred on the Led's. Will definitively keep that in mind  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Renrew on November 13, 2017, 07:56:38 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding.

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 08:00:03 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Offshore on November 13, 2017, 08:04:58 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers
What boggles my Mind is how big Manufacturers are Marketing Adventure Bikes capable of Speeds in excess of 200 Km/H and fit them with Crap Lights, like we don't Ride at Night on or Off-road :o.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on November 13, 2017, 08:20:33 pm
What boggles my Mind is how big Manufacturers are Marketing Adventure Bikes capable of Speeds in excess of 200 Km/H and fit them with Crap Lights, like we don't Ride at Night on or Off-road :o.

keeping costs down and I wouldn't be surprised if they are in cahoots with the after-market suppliers  ;)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Renrew on November 13, 2017, 08:35:49 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers

Fair :thumleft:

But IF you donít commute as a rule, give them a skip.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Offshore on November 13, 2017, 08:37:14 pm
What boggles my Mind is how big Manufacturers are Marketing Adventure Bikes capable of Speeds in excess of 200 Km/H and fit them with Crap Lights, like we don't Ride at Night on or Off-road :o.

keeping costs down and I wouldn't be surprised if they are in cahoots with the after-market suppliers  ;)
I Personally think they don't  Ride Off-road at Night and their Roads are so well lit at Night that they don't need Lights. Africa is not called the Dark Continent for Nothing. :lol8: Can you Imagine riding at night in the Bushveld  with those kak Lights. I have  :bueller:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChristiaanJ on November 13, 2017, 09:41:44 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers

Fair :thumleft:

But IF you donít commute as a rule, give them a skip.
Baie geluk met die nuwe Bike JK!

Renrew, why do you suggest giving the spots a miss?

I normally end up running late, and on the back roads past townships etc I find they can be a life saver in the dark because they give a wider spread allowing you to see that drunkard/cow/goat/donkey before it wonders into the road. Passing through Maseru after sunset will prove my point to anyone that doubts it.

Especially on a bike like the 9/10/11/1290 as they are not exclusively used for offroad riding, there will always be stretches done on the blacktop between cars, so being seen is just as important as being able to see.

I would also be interested to know where guys mount spots on the 1X90s, as I am not convinced of the SW Motech under-the-headlight-mounting system. I have already read of one case on ADV Rider where a guy dropped the bike, and the mount caused considerable damage to the headlight housing.

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Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Mikel89 on November 14, 2017, 11:51:14 am
Ons moet n bietjie praat...

My GS park daar waar die ander bikes park!!

Dalk kan ons n run voor werk doen?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Panne on November 14, 2017, 12:29:27 pm
edit: if no cig lighter, I wonder if you'll have the ACC1 and ACC2 connections at the front and rear?

The connections are there, so it's pretty straight forward to fit a socket. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on November 14, 2017, 12:34:59 pm
I don't know how you damage a spotlight in a fall, I have never broken a spotlight on my 1190 or GS's. And that's not without a fair amount of opportunities.

I see spotlights as imperative to safety. Not only for commuting but also for that adventure trip where you under budgeted on riding time and you end up on a gravel road at night.



JK your bike looks great  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on November 14, 2017, 01:22:32 pm
Exan silencer  >:D >:D >:D >:D I did not last 2 days riding with standard silencer.
There should be a law against riding a Vtwin with that piece of rubbish.  :lol8:

So now with pipe and carrier plate so the Top box is back on.
Liewe foktog -----  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: that thing looks jas my bru --- pure bike porn fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck me
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 14, 2017, 02:37:20 pm
Exan silencer  >:D >:D >:D >:D I did not last 2 days riding with standard silencer.
There should be a law against riding a Vtwin with that piece of rubbish.  :lol8:

So now with pipe and carrier plate so the Top box is back on.
Liewe foktog -----  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: that thing looks jas my bru --- pure bike porn fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck me
Whahahaha ja neeeee my bru ons ry mos baaik om al die sintuie te bevredig  >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Renrew on November 14, 2017, 05:02:52 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers

Fair :thumleft:

But IF you donít commute as a rule, give them a skip.
Baie geluk met die nuwe Bike JK!

Renrew, why do you suggest giving the spots a miss?

I normally end up running late, and on the back roads past townships etc I find they can be a life saver in the dark because they give a wider spread allowing you to see that drunkard/cow/goat/donkey before it wonders into the road. Passing through Maseru after sunset will prove my point to anyone that doubts it.

Especially on a bike like the 9/10/11/1290 as they are not exclusively used for offroad riding, there will always be stretches done on the blacktop between cars, so being seen is just as important as being able to see.

I would also be interested to know where guys mount spots on the 1X90s, as I am not convinced of the SW Motech under-the-headlight-mounting system. I have already read of one case on ADV Rider where a guy dropped the bike, and the mount caused considerable damage to the headlight housing.

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Spotlights donít really get damaged on a fall - Stone chip is the culprit.

Been through three sets of premium spotlights. Not to mention how even the top ones sometimes get water in them and when youíre doing serious offroading they move out of alignment.

Bloody nightmare.

And the clutter the bike.

The bikes lights are more than enough for visibility especially with the orange light protector.

If you commute and ride at night, you can fit them. But for the odd time you commute and ride at night once in a blue moon, not worth the hassle.

I bought a pair, had them replaced under warranty, they also broke and then I switched brands and the same thing.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChristiaanJ on November 14, 2017, 08:26:46 pm
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers

Fair :thumleft:

But IF you donít commute as a rule, give them a skip.
Baie geluk met die nuwe Bike JK!

Renrew, why do you suggest giving the spots a miss?

I normally end up running late, and on the back roads past townships etc I find they can be a life saver in the dark because they give a wider spread allowing you to see that drunkard/cow/goat/donkey before it wonders into the road. Passing through Maseru after sunset will prove my point to anyone that doubts it.

Especially on a bike like the 9/10/11/1290 as they are not exclusively used for offroad riding, there will always be stretches done on the blacktop between cars, so being seen is just as important as being able to see.

I would also be interested to know where guys mount spots on the 1X90s, as I am not convinced of the SW Motech under-the-headlight-mounting system. I have already read of one case on ADV Rider where a guy dropped the bike, and the mount caused considerable damage to the headlight housing.

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Spotlights donít really get damaged on a fall - Stone chip is the culprit.

Been through three sets of premium spotlights. Not to mention how even the top ones sometimes get water in them and when youíre doing serious offroading they move out of alignment.

Bloody nightmare.

And the clutter the bike.

The bikes lights are more than enough for visibility especially with the orange light protector.

If you commute and ride at night, you can fit them. But for the odd time you commute and ride at night once in a blue moon, not worth the hassle.

I bought a pair, had them replaced under warranty, they also broke and then I switched brands and the same thing.
Thanks Renrew. Always good to get others opinions. Point taken.

I still think it is worth it if it saves you just once, but I do agree with it spoiling the bike's lines.

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Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on November 15, 2017, 09:01:03 am
Lights on the 1090/1190 are good, not great. Better than 990.

Try and stay away from spotlights unless itís absolutely imperative for your night riding
.

on a bike used for commuting, I accept the offroad vulnerability of spots, in exchange for my visibility to cagers

Fair :thumleft:

But IF you donít commute as a rule, give them a skip.
Baie geluk met die nuwe Bike JK!

Renrew, why do you suggest giving the spots a miss?

I normally end up running late, and on the back roads past townships etc I find they can be a life saver in the dark because they give a wider spread allowing you to see that drunkard/cow/goat/donkey before it wonders into the road. Passing through Maseru after sunset will prove my point to anyone that doubts it.

Especially on a bike like the 9/10/11/1290 as they are not exclusively used for offroad riding, there will always be stretches done on the blacktop between cars, so being seen is just as important as being able to see.

I would also be interested to know where guys mount spots on the 1X90s, as I am not convinced of the SW Motech under-the-headlight-mounting system. I have already read of one case on ADV Rider where a guy dropped the bike, and the mount caused considerable damage to the headlight housing.

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Spotlights donít really get damaged on a fall - Stone chip is the culprit.

Been through three sets of premium spotlights. Not to mention how even the top ones sometimes get water in them and when youíre doing serious offroading they move out of alignment.

Bloody nightmare.

And the clutter the bike.

The bikes lights are more than enough for visibility especially with the orange light protector.

If you commute and ride at night, you can fit them. But for the odd time you commute and ride at night once in a blue moon, not worth the hassle.

I bought a pair, had them replaced under warranty, they also broke and then I switched brands and the same thing.
Interesting, don't share your view on spots though. In my experience, no matter how good the main lights are, spots give you great peripheral visibility at night and make you super visible during the day. The caveat to that though is mounting them in the right place, they are functional and NOT decorative items.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on November 15, 2017, 09:27:09 am
Jap, I like the looks of spotlights as well, I would have felt right home in Welkom!

Anyhow, much much more incidents of cars not seeing sports bikes vs adventure bikes, I attribute this mostly to spots and orange covers. (I know they are physically smaller as well)
Crashbars, spotlights, bashplate and 2 finger levers, I rate them equally important.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 17, 2017, 03:20:33 pm
Sooooo i have been commuting a bit to work and have also done some dirt . . .

Probably a well documented fact but still the 1st thing i missed is the lekker cabbyhole on the 990tie. Eish i am gona have to find an alternative place to put my house keys and work access card. Not a big fan of tank bags, so i am thinking a handlebar bag is probably the best solution, but for now the keys and cards are in the riding jackets pockets. So its stop take off glove, take out card, swipe card etc etc etc.

But at work where i park i most mornings can go into the bigger parking area and actually turn around and park with facing the way out ready to go in the afternoon. Must say that this does feel lighter as its definitely easier to maneuver here than the 990. I see the specs show it weighs dry exactly the same as the 990. But remember that is without the center stand and also some other bits removed. And the 1090 has ABS pump that the 990R does not so i am struggling to see how it would be lighter, but yet with my short ass it is easier. Also goes onto the center stand MUUUCHHH easier. On the 990 u would plant ur feet properly and prepare and then seriously grab the bike. On the 1090 really is much easier. It is marginally and really marginally lower than the 990R,but i guess that little makes a difference. With 2nd degree kortgattelaaites i need all the help i can get  :lol8:

Power wise it feels a lot smoother. So riding the 990R u always get the feeling of riding a Tazmanian devil . >:D It is loud and ruff and just wants to tear up stuff with those 2 loud pipes.
1090 Definitely less loud and more refined but with alas MORE power. Its like the matric laaitie (990) has gone and studied 3 years now. Little more refined but still VERY potent  ;). Then off course coming of a 990 u run the serious risk to regularly crash the 1090 cause of watching the dash. . . There is so much stuff there to watch  :biggrin: Awesome to have a fuel gauge  :imaposer:
 
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Moondog on November 17, 2017, 04:03:43 pm
Sooooo i have been commuting a bit to work and have also done some dirt . . .

Probably a well documented fact but still the 1st thing i missed is the lekker cabbyhole on the 990tie. Eish i am gona have to find an alternative place to put my house keys and work access card. Not a big fan of tank bags, so i am thinking a handlebar bag is probably the best solution, but for now the keys and cards are in the riding jackets pockets. So its stop take off glove, take out card, swipe card etc etc etc.

......


I feel the same way as you do about tank bags, but this little guy changed my mind .... https://bikegear.co.za/product/sw-motech-quick-lock-evo-micro-tankbag/
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 17, 2017, 04:40:44 pm
Good to hear you're enjoying the bike!! +1 for a bar bag. I use one on my 1090. The desert fox one, small enough to be completely unobtrusive but holds keys, usb charger and a few other odds and ends. Not waterproof though.

(http://www.acmelabs.co.za/bikes/1090/GOPR1606.MP4_snapshot_00.04_[2017.10.01_14.34.45].jpg)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 18, 2017, 12:33:48 pm
Hey Moondog long time no speak. Thanks that looks a lekker little tankbag. I might just ask Kurt to bring up one so we can check it out  :thumleft:
U still work across from me ?

Eish lekker photi that Sprocketman where was that taken ? Looks like u really take that 1090 offroad. I like the look of that handlebar bag. Who sells them ?
What make of aftermarket busters do u have on there ?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 20, 2017, 07:46:38 am
Thanks JK, photo taken at Maraisburg. In terms of the bar bag, got mine from Guts n Gas but I see bikegear.co.za also sells them (https://bikegear.co.za/product/motorcycle-handlebar-bag/). The busters are the standard KTM aluminum ones.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Noneking on November 29, 2017, 07:12:56 pm
Very curious to find out how it compares to 990 for adventure riding.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2017, 07:51:59 am
Very curious to find out how it compares to 990 for adventure riding.

At the end of the day 220mm suspension travel cant beat 265mm. The comparisons will always come back to that telling difference for adventure riding. Or what says our new 1090 owner?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 08:51:58 am
248mm on 990R

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ROSSI on November 30, 2017, 12:24:25 pm
Thanks JK, photo taken at Maraisburg. In terms of the bar bag, got mine from Guts n Gas but I see bikegear.co.za also sells them (https://bikegear.co.za/product/motorcycle-handlebar-bag/). The busters are the standard KTM aluminum ones.

That handlebar bag still dont look like it fits properly.  Surly there must be ones that fits beter :-\
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 01:57:06 pm
Think it's ment to sit rider side on bars
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 02:05:17 pm
Hi i am not a handlebar bag specialist and will only now start using one. Bought the desert fox and will fit this weekend. I think the issue there is that those side eyelets needs to be used and that will pull the bag open and thus make it less crumpled up. The bag is definitely smaller than the ones that i have seen so far and i think its gonna work ok for me.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 02:07:26 pm
Touratech make a nice one but price is NUTS

(https://d33z7s7gp1qwa7.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/45/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/0/1/01-371-5806-0_i_06.jpg)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 02:11:08 pm
Hi i am not a handlebar bag specialist and will only now start using one. Bought the desert fox and will fit this weekend. I think the issue there is that those side eyelets needs to be used and that will pull the bag open and thus make it less crumpled up. The bag is definitely smaller than the ones that i have seen so far and i think its gonna work ok for me.

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 30, 2017, 02:14:31 pm
I had it rider side initially, however, due to the layout of the tank, anything in the bag gets crushed at certain angles (including gate remotes  >:( ) It works nicely facing away. The bag is small enough to be completely unobtrusive that way.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 02:17:03 pm
I had it rider side initially, however, due to the layout of the tank, anything in the bag gets crushed at certain angles (including gate remotes  >:( ) It works nicely facing away. The bag is small enough to be completely unobtrusive that way.

Ahhhh thanks for this SM. Just recently had to replace remotes and they are blerry expensive  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 02:20:47 pm
Hey Armpump eish ja i am after that GPS Bracket in that photo of yours, but as noted they are not shy  :-[
Luckily at the moment they also dont have much stock due to the issues in Germany with the Mothership  8)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 02:29:01 pm
I had it rider side initially, however, due to the layout of the tank, anything in the bag gets crushed at certain angles (including gate remotes  >:( ) It works nicely facing away. The bag is small enough to be completely unobtrusive that way.

But key access :(

 
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 30, 2017, 02:33:40 pm
But key access :(

Not an issue with that bag, it's quite slim so doesn't interfere. Typically I don't carry a lot in the bar bag, house keys, cable ties, phone charger and license.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ROSSI on November 30, 2017, 02:37:33 pm
But key access :(

Not an issue with that bag, it's quite slim so doesn't interfere. Typically I don't carry a lot in the bar bag, house keys, cable ties, phone charger and license.

At my age glasses too  :)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ROSSI on November 30, 2017, 02:38:24 pm
Cant believe someone has not yet manufactured a handlebar bag for 1190 specific at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 02:48:36 pm
Also just wanna put the basic necessities like house keys, work access card  and JA glasses  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 02:52:00 pm
Hey guys so i am pretty much getting to the end of the accessories spending spree  8) but one outstanding item is frame guards that actually also protect the sub frame strut as well.
Do we know now where to get something  :patch:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 02:56:25 pm
(https://cdn.touratech-usa.com/c/w_1000,h_1000/01-371-5510-0_i_01.jpg)

same crowd
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 30, 2017, 03:00:06 pm
(https://cdn.touratech-usa.com/c/w_1000,h_1000/01-371-5510-0_i_01.jpg)

same crowd

These are stupid expensive! Although seem to be the only ones that extend up the sub-frame. My sub-frame was getting a lot of wear from my boots so I've just cable-tied some rubber matting around it. Not pretty but not really noticeable unless your looking for it.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on November 30, 2017, 03:01:00 pm
Eish Armpump alweer daai ouens  :-\ 8) :lol8:
Ek sal daai man maar weer moet bel  ;)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on November 30, 2017, 03:03:20 pm
@Munger on here needs to pull finger :)

(http://beveratech.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Frame-Protector.png)

Was busy with ktm but not sure how far he got.

Would like black personally
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 30, 2017, 03:09:15 pm
(http://www.acmelabs.co.za/bikes/1090/subframe.jpg)

Not pretty but works well.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on November 30, 2017, 03:41:43 pm
Cant believe someone has not yet manufactured a handlebar bag for 1190 specific at a reasonable price.

This is what I have, don't know if it meets the 'tight fit' requirements as discussed though. I like it, much better (for me) and cheaper than Tankbag.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Munger on November 30, 2017, 04:10:12 pm
Slowly getting there, will post update once I'm happy with the design and made up a sample.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on November 30, 2017, 04:20:16 pm
@Munger I'm sure you'll find lots of "beta testers" here  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Munger on November 30, 2017, 06:55:41 pm
@Munger I'm sure you'll find lots of "beta testers" here 
Unfortunately I own a 1190... :)

Sent from my F5321 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on December 01, 2017, 07:39:39 am
Slowly getting there, will post update once I'm happy with the design and made up a sample.

Looking good
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ROSSI on December 01, 2017, 08:50:52 am
HYDE also do a frame protector ... have a look

http://www.hyde.co.za/carbon-frame-guards-1190/
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on December 01, 2017, 09:09:12 am
Now if only those also ran up subframe
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 07, 2017, 01:41:55 pm
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 07, 2017, 01:54:15 pm
The Touratech and KTM Brackets
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on December 07, 2017, 01:55:22 pm
did you power the GPS from ACC2 (off when IGN is off)?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 07, 2017, 02:10:55 pm
did you power the GPS from ACC2 (off when IGN is off)?

Jip  :thumleft: Eish quite job there to get to the wiring the 1st time you work there  ;)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on December 07, 2017, 02:21:53 pm
did you power the GPS from ACC2 (off when IGN is off)?

Jip  :thumleft: Eish quite job there to get to the wiring the 1st time you work there  ;)

yes, it's quite a PIA - I need to open mine up again as I want to install some stuff and modify others, but will combine the job with checking the air filter as well  :thumleft:

Can't remember whole thread, but are you gonna fit different bulbs, maybe LED?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 07, 2017, 02:55:06 pm
Have not yet had to ride in the dark but coming off the 990 anything should be better  ;)
I will check and when the lights are not good enough anymore i will definitely  go find that LED fred yes   :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on December 07, 2017, 03:06:01 pm
(https://www.revzilla.com/product_images/0123/2354/swmotech_vibration_damped_quick_lock_gps_mount_base_for_ktm1190_adventure1190_adventure_r_750x750.jpg)

Like this ?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on December 13, 2017, 08:09:02 am
I can vouch that you made the right call on GPS bracket. the Touratech one is crappy unless you modify it whereafter it works a charm
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 13, 2017, 04:23:22 pm
I can vouch that you made the right call on GPS bracket. the Touratech one is crappy unless you modify it whereafter it works a charm

Yip very happy as we did some dirt and had no issues.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 13, 2017, 04:26:40 pm
So we had our 1st lekker weekend dirt trippie.  :thumleft:  Nothing extreme but still enough to test the new baaik. JHB Ė Parys Ė Orkney Ė Klerksdorp. Lots of rain fell so we were very nervous of the conditions that was awaiting us, but we got lucky and ended up having an extremely lekker weekend.  :) Gravel managed to dry up enough to allow us to do some lekker speeds and yet still lots of water puddles all over to make it verryyy interesting.  >:D

Well must start off by noting that the 1090ís suspension is SORTED  :) :). As noted there roads never were gonna test the suspension travel much, but we managed to get up to some decent speeds and every now and then came up to quick on a waterhole or 2  The bike feels planted and the brakes definitely better than the 990. I have progressives on the 990 on the front and that made a huge improvement, but I think the 1090ís front is a little better still.

1st piece of dirt I accidentally put the baaik in Offroad mode   Must say that that is not something I would do a lot. ??? It definitely will not keep up with the 990 in Offroad mode . But in Street Mode with Traction control off and ABS in offroad mode WOW WOW .  :) >:D >:D The biggest part of the dirt is normal dual lane dirt roads, but at the end there is quite a bit of 2spoor more technical and tight track and here it did feel like the 125HP might become a bit of an issue.  8) Having the ABS always on on the front is a definite plus.

I like to stand a lot when on gravel and was nervous that I would miss the lekker narrow feel of the 990 where I squeeze the tanks with my knees when it gets rough. But the 1090 does not feel wide at all and the knee squeezing is actually better cause now the knees end up in that soft piece of the seat as opposed to the hard plastic tanks of the 990.

My brother was with us on his 990R and off course there was some dicing . . . Yep the 1090 has more power but eish I will forever miss the sound of those beautiful twin pipes.  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 14, 2017, 12:31:23 pm
Must say thanks to Sprocketman that suggested the Desert Fox handlebar bag.  :thumleft:
Works lekker  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 14, 2017, 12:33:52 pm
Then also started to move the mirrors of their standard clamp spots to stand alone clamps to save the master cylinders when the unfortunate happens.
Got them from Rad and they are around R70.00 each
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on December 14, 2017, 12:35:41 pm
Pragtige fotos van die naweek trip. :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 14, 2017, 12:37:41 pm
Little worried about the throttle side as it seems i would have to cut some of the original bracket in order to fit the stand alone bracket  :patch:
The stand alone clamp needs to in between the mirror and the switch setup.
Any of the clevva dogs know why KTM marries the switch and mirror together like that  ???
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 14, 2017, 12:39:17 pm
Pragtige fotos van die naweek trip. :peepwall: ;) :lol8:

 :imaposer: :imaposer:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Tabasco on December 14, 2017, 12:58:11 pm
Then also started to move the mirrors of their standard clamp spots to stand alone clamps to save the master cylinders when the unfortunate happens.
Got them from Rad and they are around R70.00 each
go to an Automotive Spares shop (once that sell the "pirate" body parts) and get a plastic retaining clip for that thread that is just a hole now.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 14, 2017, 01:11:13 pm
So we had our 1st lekker weekend dirt trippie.  :thumleft:  Nothing extreme but still enough to test the new baaik. JHB Ė Parys Ė Orkney Ė Klerksdorp. Lots of rain fell so we were very nervous of the conditions that was awaiting us, but we got lucky and ended up having an extremely lekker weekend.  :) Gravel managed to dry up enough to allow us to do some lekker speeds and yet still lots of water puddles all over to make it verryyy interesting.  >:D

Well must start off by noting that the 1090ís suspension is SORTED  :) :). As noted there roads never were gonna test the suspension travel much, but we managed to get up to some decent speeds and every now and then came up to quick on a waterhole or 2  The bike feels planted and the brakes definitely better than the 990. I have progressives on the 990 on the front and that made a huge improvement, but I think the 1090ís front is a little better still.

1st piece of dirt I accidentally put the baaik in Offroad mode   Must say that that is not something I would do a lot. ??? It definitely will not keep up with the 990 in Offroad mode . But in Street Mode with Traction control off and ABS in offroad mode WOW WOW .  :) >:D >:D The biggest part of the dirt is normal dual lane dirt roads, but at the end there is quite a bit of 2spoor more technical and tight track and here it did feel like the 125HP might become a bit of an issue.  8) Having the ABS always on on the front is a definite plus.

I like to stand a lot when on gravel and was nervous that I would miss the lekker narrow feel of the 990 where I squeeze the tanks with my knees when it gets rough. But the 1090 does not feel wide at all and the knee squeezing is actually better cause now the knees end up in that soft piece of the seat as opposed to the hard plastic tanks of the 990.

My brother was with us on his 990R and off course there was some dicing . . . Yep the 1090 has more power but eish I will forever miss the sound of those beautiful twin pipes.  :thumleft: :thumleft:

And how is the new baaik at dicing in Klersdorps streets?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on December 15, 2017, 07:11:54 am
Little worried about the throttle side as it seems i would have to cut some of the original bracket in order to fit the stand alone bracket  :patch:
The stand alone clamp needs to in between the mirror and the switch setup.
Any of the clevva dogs know why KTM marries the switch and mirror together like that  ???

Extra securing so throttle mech does not rotate.

Nice thing about moving brake res in is the lever ends move further away from touching hand guards which helps in case of a tip over
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on December 19, 2017, 08:31:12 am
Little worried about the throttle side as it seems i would have to cut some of the original bracket in order to fit the stand alone bracket  :patch:
The stand alone clamp needs to in between the mirror and the switch setup.
Any of the clevva dogs know why KTM marries the switch and mirror together like that  ???

Extra securing so throttle mech does not rotate.

Nice thing about moving brake res in is the lever ends move further away from touching hand guards which helps in case of a tip over
:thumleft: Yes will def help
Surely the clamp screws on the switch unit should be sufficient to hold everything in place ?

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on December 19, 2017, 12:12:46 pm
Can't see why not.

Also want to move my levers in a little at some stage.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 20, 2018, 11:49:43 am
JK

I'm also looking at changing to 1090, but as you mentioned, very hard to let go of the 990. Give me something to make the decision a bit easier... I read your comments on your weekend dirt trip, but what else have you learned up to now?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on March 20, 2018, 12:38:45 pm
JK

I'm also looking at changing to 1090, but as you mentioned, very hard to let go of the 990. Give me something to make the decision a bit easier... I read your comments on your weekend dirt trip, but what else have you learned up to now?
Its easy
Unless you are one very accomplished rider, regularly bottoming out your 990 and giving the bashplate a proper workout....the 1090 is better.

the 990 only shines on the limit of technical riding, not slow speed, but technical riding.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: weskus on March 20, 2018, 12:49:19 pm
 :peepwall: :pot:...ek sal maar eers nog met my 990 ry tot hul vir ons 'n 790R bou..
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 20, 2018, 01:40:47 pm
JK

I'm also looking at changing to 1090, but as you mentioned, very hard to let go of the 990. Give me something to make the decision a bit easier... I read your comments on your weekend dirt trip, but what else have you learned up to now?
Its easy
Unless you are one very accomplished rider, regularly bottoming out your 990 and giving the bashplate a proper workout....the 1090 is better.

the 990 only shines on the limit of technical riding, not slow speed, but technical riding.

I'm not a very accomplished rider.  :ricky: But i want a little bit more. I have a 990S at the moment, also playing with the idea of a 990R. My S is developing small issues, sweats on the engine, o-rings going here and there, rear frame broken, etc. All smallish issues, maar ek is nie lus vir dit nie! Scared of having the same little issues on a R...
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 20, 2018, 01:45:00 pm
:peepwall: :pot:...ek sal maar eers nog met my 990 ry tot hul vir ons 'n 790R bou..

Moet my nou nie weer van die 1090 af laat weg draai nie.  :lol8: Daai 790R spook by my van die eerste keer wat ek daai gerigte gesien het...
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on March 20, 2018, 01:58:03 pm
Ek het n moto, geen beplanning word rondom gerugte gedoen nie. Dit maak net nie sin nie, daar is hopeloos te veel veranderlikes moontlik.
maar dan...ek koop nie nuwe bike nie.

Ysbeer as jou klein issuetjies van grondpad ry en so bietjie bike verbruik is....dan moet jy maar weg bly van die 1090. gaan sien my 1190 RRRRR thread, beste bike op die mark maar jy gaan eers paar issues moet uitsort.

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 20, 2018, 02:08:24 pm
Ek het n moto, geen beplanning word rondom gerugte gedoen nie. Dit maak net nie sin nie, daar is hopeloos te veel veranderlikes moontlik.
maar dan...ek koop nie nuwe bike nie.

Ysbeer as jou klein issuetjies van grondpad ry en so bietjie bike verbruik is....dan moet jy maar weg bly van die 1090. gaan sien my 1190 RRRRR thread, beste bike op die mark maar jy gaan eers paar issues moet uitsort.

Dit is inderdaad waar my klein issuetjies vandaan kom. Ry baie grondpad, dis mos maar waaroor dit gaan...

Jy maak my nou bang, dink ek gaan dinge nog eers bietjie uitkyk.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on March 20, 2018, 02:39:33 pm
wellllll

op n GS gaan jy die windscreen brackets ook heeltyd breek en LED ligte breek of skuif ook binne in.
Op n AT gaan jy die bracket waaraan GPS kom ook so af breek
so almal het maar die aandag nodig.

behalwe op 1190 breek jy sommer hele headunit se mount af, maar mens kan dit net sweis dan jy sorted, dit die onlanste in my thread.

Grondpad skep maar heeltyd die klein issuetjies. Ek was absoluut useless met my hande maar geniet nou al die werk aan die bike. Jy gaan dit orals kry, net soos jy dit klaar het. die 990 dit ook nie vrygespring nie.

Gaan ry die 1090, klink vir my of jy nie sal speit wees nie. met warranty kan die klein drama nog vir eers iemand anders se probleem wees.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 22, 2018, 11:03:48 am
Dit vat ook net een goeie dag op die 990, dan wil mens daai ding vir niks laat gaan nie. Maar ek is steeds lus vir die 1090. Sal maar wag vir nog terugvoering vanaf JK...
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Dish on March 22, 2018, 11:59:20 am
That is one flippen awesome looking machine. I bought the 1050 adventure a month or two ago and whilst I love it to bits, I have to say I'm feeling some serious "envy" for that 1090. eisschhhh - what (if you don't mind me asking) was the blow out special price?? Also, what tyres are you running and how did they perform in the wet weather you rode in on your trip. we were down in clarens last weekend and it was sopping. happy with my current tyres but would mind that slightly more aggressive look so long as you don't sacrifice road performance in the wet.
Damn that's a nice bike.. !!
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:33:17 pm
Hi oks sorry man I have not been here for a while. :P
So I am up to around 7500kmís done on the bike, had the 1000km service, changed  tyres, replaced back brake pads and had some issues. I will update this weekend when I have some time.  ;)

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:38:15 pm
1000km service:
This was done at Rad where I also bought the bike. So they have those 2 options system there where you as the owner can choose. Option 1 Ė Oil Filter with Full gasket, o-ring etc replacement with Motorex. Option 2- Oil filter only with Motul. I went for option2 and very happy with the service done. Even on my 990 I always checked all the o-ring/gaskets when servicing and have not yet had to replace any of those, and have always been using Motul anyway. So for me Option2 worked fine, but for the OCD guys there is always Option 1.  :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:45:03 pm
Tyres:
So the bike came out with TKCís and as expected it did not last too long as I do commute about 80km daily and the back tyre lasted about 3500km. Front is still good so I kept it as I am sure for the next longer dirt trip I will be putting on TKCís again as I liked them quite a bit on the dirt. Replaced front and back then with Pirelli Scorpion MT90ís. Got them from Bike Tyre Warehouse and must say very good service over there. Give them a try for sure. Buuut now both myself and a colleague  on a 1290 picked up issues with the Scorpion front. Between 70 and 80kms/h we both have SERIOUS headshake and does not matter what we do we cannot get rid of this. Seriously frustrating as I never before used to have issues. Do know that they are very sensitive for tyre pressure and if u ran the front for a while on low pressure they can pick up damage and start shaking. But this time itís from start. Same colleague now on Mitas E07 front and back and he is happy so far so possibly gonna go there myself.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on March 22, 2018, 03:51:48 pm
next time

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:52:28 pm
Brake Pads:
Changed them yesterday after about 7500kmís They do still have some life but I am leaving on an 8 day trip next week Friday so they were going to be finished on the trip. Bought Brembos again as the dealer did not have good aftermarket pads, but next time will again go for aftermarket pads cause R690 for the Brembos are a little heavy for me. However I am now again back on a KTM with ABS. So on my white 990 Adventure with ABS I remember that the aftermarket pads did not works as good on the ABS initially but changed the compound and eventually was very close to with original pads. On the 990R no ABS so was no issue. Will now again maybe have some issues in the beginning. Unless there is owners here that can feedback on this. Is it a good idea to go aftermarket or not?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 04:05:39 pm
That is one flippen awesome looking machine. I bought the 1050 adventure a month or two ago and whilst I love it to bits, I have to say I'm feeling some serious "envy" for that 1090. eisschhhh - what (if you don't mind me asking) was the blow out special price?? Also, what tyres are you running and how did they perform in the wet weather you rode in on your trip. we were down in clarens last weekend and it was sopping. happy with my current tyres but would mind that slightly more aggressive look so long as you don't sacrifice road performance in the wet.
Damn that's a nice bike.. !!

Hi Dish
The sale price was R160000.00
For tires i always liked the Pirelli MT90's very much as they really do both dirt and tar very well. But if they cannot sort the issue they have on the front i will stay away for now.
The TKC 80'S REALLY impressed me on dirt, but they dont last very well on tar which can be expected. On tar the front wheel also dont  like much past 170km/h
So i will see how my friend is doing with the Mitas and if good maybe go there. But to my mind if u are like me a commuter then the ultimate solution will be an extra set of complete wheels. With Pirelli trails on for the one set for commuting on tar and TKC 80's on the other wheels for the dirt. Take only a couple of minutes to swop wheels. Buuut ya that remains a dream for now as an extra set of complete wheels will not be good for my marriage. :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on March 22, 2018, 04:15:09 pm
Issue on front with Pirelli ?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 04:15:17 pm
Issues:
The only issue i had so far is the front headlight unit coming loose. Seems this is an ongoing issue with the factory as a buddy of mine had the same issue on his 1190. The bolts holding the front cluster rattle loose and some fall out.You then you start looking like those little bobbing head doggieís in the back window of cars in the 60ties.  :lol8:  Rad fixed this for me when I stopped there 1 Saturday and all good now. So this was IT so far, oh yeah and the current confusion around the Top Speed limiter which we are discussing here http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=222278.0

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 04:16:26 pm
Issue on front with Pirelli ?

Yip as mentioned 2 of us now having head shake issues from start. And have not been there but apparently there is a tread with more complaints on Adventure rider
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 23, 2018, 09:54:41 am
Issue on front with Pirelli ?

Yip as mentioned 2 of us now having head shake issues from start. And have not been there but apparently there is a tread with more complaints on Adventure rider

I've got a pal with a 1190 with the same issues. Boggles my mind, please let us know if you find the root cause...
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on March 23, 2018, 10:22:52 am
I run these on my 1190R and touch wood have never had any issue at any speed.

(http://www.sharwoodsbiketyre.co.za/6426-large_default/pirelli-mt90-90-90-21-m-c-54v-tl.jpg)

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 25, 2018, 08:23:14 pm
Yes on the 990's as well we in our group preffer those. And never had any issues but now all of a sudden we have issues on the front  :dousing:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 25, 2018, 08:59:45 pm
So Ysbeer as promised here we go:
Just as a reminder remember that I did not have to sell my 990R and handed this down to my son, so it was to my mind a little easier decision as the legend is still in the grage ;) . But to be brutally honest the 1090 is an extremely easy bike to get used to and here is what to my mind is better on the 1090R than the 990R.  8)

Lights:
Jip probably not yet as good as say the new Honda, but a LOT better than the 990.
The seat:
But then anything is better than the plank on the 990R
Getting to the battery:
Eish eish what a pleasure now that it is under the seat
Service Intervals:
Definitely is a HUGE improvement and it only really sneaks up on you when u are at 7500km where I am now and then u realize on the 990 u would have had to service already. And yes I can argue that I did not commute on the 990 so the 7500 will not come that quickly, but yet it does. I remember that even while primarily just doing dirt trips it always felt that I am just servicing all the time
Electronics:
The fuel gauge is very lekker. On the 990 u know the kmís etc that u can do, but it is just so much nicer to have a fuel gauge on board. The other settings like ride modes etc is also awesome but to be honest I use very little of that. The bike is always in Sport Mode with me regardless if it is on tar or dirt or rain or sunshine. I find that 125hp on dirt is actually very doable. So then on tar it is Sport with traction control off when dry, and on when wet. Dirt is Sport mode with Traction off and ABS in Off-road. So the other modes does not get used much at all. REALLY like the ABS that stays on in the front even in Off-road. Grabbing a handful on dirt is a non-issue now and we older toppies now do start needing assistance.
Fuel consumption and range:
So I have not done big trips yet but I have just finished the planning for our 8 day trip starting on the 31st of March and a big chunk is in the Karoo with small dorpies where fuel is not a guarantee and must say that extra legs that u have on the 1090 really eases the planning. And now i am no longer the reason why everyone has to stop at the garage  :patch: :lol8:
Engine:
So it is not 160hp but the extra HP and revs is a BIGGG smile factor. And this is not a restricted 1290 but the engine was completely re designed and it is very smooth. And as noted above that 125hp works soooo lekker on dirt  >:D >:D >:D
Tubless:
Have not yet had a puncture but theoretically without damaging rims and or cutting tires punctures is now a non-issue. Except the 1st time I will have to use those mushroom plugs and spanners. But then once u have done one it will be easy enough thereafter. So as noted we are leaving on a 8 day trip and although there is a spare front tube and some tire leavers going with the expectation is that i will not be needing those.
Suspension:
Forks are better than the stock 990 springs even if you have done progressives on the 990 like I have done on my 990R. The 1090 forks are just better. Rear shock on the 1090 is also a PDR so also better than the 1090. I have 3rd degree kortgattelaaites so the 990R is very tall for me. The 1090 although marginally shorter is shorter and that little bit does give me less stress than on the 990R. But as per comments above I am no riding god. On the 990 before the upgrade I managed to bottom the front often enough, but we never do serious hectic offroad stuff. We have plastics for that. But as noted with the few dirt trips I have done now I can already feel the difference between the 2 w.r.t suspension.
Chain tension bolt setup in the swing arm:
One of the more painful issues on the 990 is that the chain tensioner bolts sometimes gets corroded and seizes up. The swing arm must come off and if u are lucky the bolt eventually comes out with a lot of patience as u cannot get to the nut side as it is inside the swing arm. Bastard i know as i had to do one already. On the 1090 the swing arm is not a closed tube setup anymore and u can see the nut of the set bolt clearly.
Rear brake fluid reservoir:
On the 990 this is a metal cast unit with an aluminium lid with 2 counter sunk screws of which the one screw is at an awkward position half under the passenger footrest bracket, so always a schlep to take of the lid. On the 1090 it is now a plastic bottle with an easy screw off lid.

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 25, 2018, 09:04:26 pm
What is still better on the 990 (Offcourse in my mind  :lol8:)
Looks:
This is a personal thing and for sure bikers will never agree on this one, but to me the 990 is still the best looking Adventure baaik out there. It just has the looks of a Dakar winning KTM.
Sound:
Yes the 1090 does not sound bad but eish I miss those 2 pipes.
Cabbyhole:
As expected this is one of the 1st things u will miss. Have the handlebar bag on the 1090 but not as convenient and also not waterproof like that little cubby.
Airfilter change:
I did the Unifilter change and must say this is much more complicated and time consuming on the 1090 as on the 990. The whole tank must come off where on the 990 just the cubby comes off.
Space under the seat 990R ONLY !:
The 990 R has that lekker little box under the seat where the ABS pump goes when u have a normal 990. Perfect place to put a compressor. With the battery now under the seat on the 1090 there is not a lot of space there.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 25, 2018, 09:20:33 pm
So if u ask me . . .
Should u sell the S and buy a R?
Nope i will not do that. The 990R has a good chance to have the same little niggling issues and on my 990R i have seen my fair share of those.

Should u sell and buy a 1090R?
As noted it took me a looong time, a hellavua special price and the fact that the 990 was gonna stay before i did this. But now i am sold 100% and to be Honest i think once the 790 has landed and has spent some time showing its issues and get sorted i will probably trade the 990 in on that. So if u absolutely have no issues with your 990 and no itches there is no need to sell as that is still the legend and bar for that terrible fuel range u will be able to ride and out ride many a new Adventure baaik that is coming. But once u have had ur fair share of issues and or the big itch then go and buy one u will not be sorry.  >:D
So i guess what i am saying is that if it was possible to lend one for a month or 2 u will realize what they are about and u will buy one. Because u will realize that u are on the evolution of the 990 and so many of the things that is niggling on the 990 is now improved. . . except of course for the looks  :patch: :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Ysbeer6 on March 26, 2018, 03:45:59 pm
JK, thanks for the report. Sounds good. I think the 1090R will be in my garage soon, busy with dealers to see what's the best price I can get...  :ricky: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 26, 2018, 06:25:36 pm
JK, thanks for the report. Sounds good. I think the 1090R will be in my garage soon, busy with dealers to see what's the best price I can get...  :ricky: :thumleft:
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Lekker man  :thumleft: Ons gaat photies wil sien
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on March 26, 2018, 06:30:24 pm
And as u are doing a lot of dirt do these 2 things 1st.
Unifilter and dongle  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on May 15, 2018, 01:07:01 pm
Then had the 15000km service done at Rad. As on the 1000km service they still have the 2options and I again went for the Motul Oil, Oilfilter replace and screens washed option. All in all about a R1000.00 cheaper than the other option where they replace all the screens and o-rings and use Motorex. So as noted oil, oil filter changed, and screens washed etc. Air filter and pre-filters (Unifilter) washed and oiled again. Brake fluid changed, bolt replaced on crash bar. All bolts checked. Came to about R3800.00.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on May 15, 2018, 01:09:02 pm
So must say that although these filters do take some power . . .as bitched about there on the Top Speed tread  :patch: :lol8:
Must say that they do a pretty good job to keep out the gremlins out of the motor  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on May 15, 2018, 01:14:19 pm
Then they also did the Fuel Pump re-call that was listed for this baaik.
Had a work offsite function on the Friday the day after the service and it was in the Magaliesburg area so then had the opportunity to see again what this has done to the TopSpeed. >:D
You could feel that the breathing was better and she pulled strong to 220km/h where it flattened out and stayed. So according to everyone at KTM SA this is how it is supposed to be when running the Unifilter setup.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on May 15, 2018, 01:23:44 pm
So a true 200
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on May 15, 2018, 02:18:55 pm
@JK  have you checked what the speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: armpump on May 15, 2018, 02:27:30 pm
@JK  have you checked what the STOCK speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%

Fixed :)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on May 15, 2018, 02:53:34 pm
@JK  have you checked what the speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%

Nope i dont know he error percentage for the 1090
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: mtr89 on July 03, 2018, 08:29:19 pm
JK,thanks for this thread sharing your experiences on the 1090.
Just a quick question, I see you did an oil change at 7500 kms, are the service intervals not 15000kms on these bikes?
Have you looked at the Motoz tyres,perhaps?
Also,please post a lot more pics of your bike,they really are dead sexy.TIA
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on March 12, 2019, 10:48:15 am
@JK after reading your fread many times over I am about to take the plunge and buy a 1090R, I'm keeping my 990S though. Although not a new one, it's a demo bike. I considered the 1290R and even looked at 500, but I think the 1090R is the one. Please update this thread with new information, to help me convince myself that I've made the right decision. ;D
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 12, 2019, 11:10:35 am
 but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on March 12, 2019, 11:12:59 am
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 12, 2019, 11:14:31 am
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
Maak net seker daai "demo" is nie n ex Limpopo bike nie, daai bike hou van sonder water loop!! :deal: :peepwall: ;)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on March 12, 2019, 11:16:21 am
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
Maak net seker daai "demo" is nie n ex Limpopo bike nie, daai bike hou van sonder water loop!! :deal: :peepwall: ;)
Nee wat ek is Seker hy is nie, ken die baas van die winkel en ek is maar bang vir Limpopo Manne en holle fietse.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 12, 2019, 11:30:12 am
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
Maak net seker daai "demo" is nie n ex Limpopo bike nie, daai bike hou van sonder water loop!! :deal: :peepwall: ;)
Nee wat ek is Seker hy is nie, ken die baas van die winkel en ek is maar bang vir Limpopo Manne en holle fietse.

Eerbare manne die lot van hulle, ma weet nie so mooi van die dealer. :deal: :thumleft:
Title: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Noneking on March 12, 2019, 11:32:40 am
@JK after reading your fread many times over I am about to take the plunge and buy a 1090R, I'm keeping my 990S though. Although not a new one, it's a demo bike. I considered the 1290R and even looked at 500, but I think the 1090R is the one. Please update this thread with new information, to help me convince myself that I've made the right decision. ;D

Glo nie jy sal spyt wees nie........




(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190312/ccea0d7b001daecf24da773e5e438402.jpg)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: cocky on March 12, 2019, 11:39:23 am
@JK after reading your fread many times over I am about to take the plunge and buy a 1090R, I'm keeping my 990S though. Although not a new one, it's a demo bike. I considered the 1290R and even looked at 500, but I think the 1090R is the one. Please update this thread with new information, to help me convince myself that I've made the right decision. ;D

Glo nie jy sal spyt wees nie........




(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190312/ccea0d7b001daecf24da773e5e438402.jpg)
Glo nie ek sal nie, maar dan moet ek ook so n fancy kletteren koop soos jy het :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on March 27, 2019, 09:50:06 am
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.

where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Noneking on March 27, 2019, 03:44:18 pm
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.

where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

Speak to @ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on March 28, 2019, 08:54:24 am
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where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

cable ties
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:00 am
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where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

cable ties

 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on March 28, 2019, 10:24:23 am
where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

I saw a guy on European forum that has 'stiffened' his OEM mount with plates and bolts, as below - he says it works well - I have the same mount, but don't use my GPS that much - might still try his modification

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on April 02, 2019, 01:31:58 pm
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.

where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

Speak to @ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS

ordered bracket from dustriders, paid the invoice, and box was on my desk the next day. very happy with their service.......now to fit it
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on April 02, 2019, 01:40:24 pm
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.

where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

Speak to @ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS

ordered bracket from dustriders, paid the invoice, and box was on my desk the next day. very happy with their service.......now to fit it
Thank you for your support!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 08, 2019, 06:11:03 pm
Ok finally got the GPS sorted. Have the Zumo 660 and previously on the 990 had it on the Ram mount and on the handlebar. Wanted to go for a in view position this time as the handlebar position is a bit of an issue when u are standing. Have to sit down to see the GPS.
So basically looked at 3 options:
* The KTM bracket
* The Touratech bracket
* The SW Motech bracket.
All 3 have the GPS mounted above the instrument cluster. Got some feedback from the 1290 crowd that fitted the KTM bracket that it is a little flimsy and shows some vibrations. Checked the 1090 KTM bracket and it is not as long as the 1290 bracket but still had some brace legs lifting the GPS up from the dash and thus i expected that it could also be prone to vibrating.
The Touratech bracket looked very naaice  :thumleft: but then i suspect its simply cause its Orange  >:D and luckily nothing is available  ;)
Settled then on the SW Motech bracket as its nice a low and no upright extensions lifting the GPS up. So far i am happy  :thumleft:. They could maybe have come up with a quick release setup that can assist to quickly adjust the angle. Now it is pretty much stuck in the position that u chose as u need to remove the screen and have a screwdriver to loosen and readjust.

where did you get the SW motech bracket from and how much was it if i may ask.
I have the KTM bracket, and you made the right call....the GPS shows plenty vibration. I am not happy with it and need a better option.

Speak to @ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS

ordered bracket from dustriders, paid the invoice, and box was on my desk the next day. very happy with their service.......now to fit it
Up here in Gauteng i get the SW stuff from Kurt (Adventurer)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 09:00:39 pm
So sorry been a while i actually updated about the relationship so here goes . . .

Top speed limiter issue as per here  - http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=222278.0
So as noted in the tread after the fuel filter was removed the limiter was now gone and could see around 225km/h. But then around 26000km's the blerry thing came back again  :dousing:
I am suspecting the fuel filter is clogged up again and decided to wait for the 30000km service cause a fuel filter replacement was on the cards for this service . . .  :patch:

Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 09:16:39 pm
Tyres
So on the original TKC's started on 0km's and finished on 3400km's and the back tyre was gone. But remember i do commute every day 80kms on tar. Then fitted Pirelli Scorpion MT90's front and rear. They lasted 10000km's and was replaced with Mitas EO7 Front and rear - This is the normal EO7 not the new EO7Plus. Then had what seems the standard issue with the EO7 front constantly deflating but the back very impressively giving me 12000km's. Then went back to Pirelli MT90 for the front and very excitedly fitted the new EO7 plus on the back. As can bee seen on the photo it is not looking good.  :eek7: That is the state after 4600km's . . .  :patch: :( >:(

ANYONE KNOWS OF SOMEONE WITH OLD EO7's LAYING AROUND SOMEWHERE . . . :patch: :dousing:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 09:24:45 pm
Headlight cluster mounting bracket breaking off - As per confusingly discussed here  :ricky: - http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=235921.0
So after almost a month very glad to have the 1090R back and as noted so far all good seems the mechies did a good job stripping and re-assembling my bike.
Complete frame replacement was done with a new frame being manufactured in Austria and re-stamped with the correct frame no and shipped back here.
Bike was completely stripped apart and new frame installed with also new steering bearings.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 09:36:34 pm
Camel Toe
Eish dont understand why it took me so long to realise the blerry lekker Camel Toe is eating into my centre stand. . . :-\
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 09:55:40 pm
30000km Service
This is a "BIG" service so please do not be surprised with a " BIG" invoice. Not here to badmouth any specific dealer cause i did put feelers out and seems they are all pretty much in the same area when it comes to this service. So bar for the normal oil, oil filter and air filter if u are on standard and wash and oil of washable air filter if u are on these like Unifilter this time around spark plugs need to be changed as well as valve clearances needs to be checked. . . . :eek7: The labor hours to get the bike stripped down to were the valves both front and back cylinder can be checked and then re-assembled seems to be standard around 7 Hours. The bike has 4 spark plugs and just these are around R1000 for 4. On top of that the fuel filter needs to be replaced as well. Valve cover gaskets around R400 etc etc. So if u are doing a lot of dirt and it is n a group and u are not in front and riding in dust expect to maybe need shims to be done and then there is the Shim Kit at around R450.00. If not riding in a lot of dust then just checking clearances should be the only damage .
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 10:01:31 pm
I came away with just service, oil and oil filters, wash and oil of airfilter (Unifilter) sparkplugs replaced and shims were ok and fuel filter replaced.
Took note of the chain and sprockets and chain slider that was identified to need replacement URGENTLY,  but will do that myself
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 16, 2019, 10:14:03 pm
Chain and Sprockets
So as per the service km's this lasted 30000km's but to be brutally honest i could have given this system some close attention with regular (Every Sunday) oil etc and could maybe have gotten a bit more km's out of this. Got a quote on a new set and is roughly around R3000.00 for a KTM damped front sprocket and a KTM hard parts orange back sprocket and a 525 O-Ring chain.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Roadhawg on April 17, 2019, 08:25:02 am
If the bike is breathing enough dust to cause valve issues that is a big problem. That dust will be causing issues further in as well, rings etc.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Sprocketman on April 17, 2019, 08:35:00 am
Headlight cluster mounting bracket breaking off - As per confusingly discussed here  :ricky: - http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=235921.0
So after almost a month very glad to have the 1090R back and as noted so far all good seems the mechies did a good job stripping and re-assembling my bike.
Complete frame replacement was done with a new frame being manufactured in Austria and re-stamped with the correct frame no and shipped back here.
Bike was completely stripped apart and new frame installed with also new steering bearings.

I had this as well, my frame replaced under warranty but factory fitted upper crash bars were "blamed" for the problem. Likely story.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on April 17, 2019, 08:57:51 am
Headlight cluster mounting bracket breaking off - As per confusingly discussed here  :ricky: - http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=235921.0
So after almost a month very glad to have the 1090R back and as noted so far all good seems the mechies did a good job stripping and re-assembling my bike.
Complete frame replacement was done with a new frame being manufactured in Austria and re-stamped with the correct frame no and shipped back here.
Bike was completely stripped apart and new frame installed with also new steering bearings.

Was this done under warranty? Or did you foot the bill?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on April 17, 2019, 06:06:13 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on April 29, 2019, 10:36:58 am
Were any of your replacement frames strengthened?
What prevents it from just happening again?

And JK, did they really just charge you R1k for all 4 of the spark plugs?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on April 29, 2019, 11:40:39 am
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Roadhawg on April 29, 2019, 12:45:29 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:
:laughing4:

Its a bad disease that, you end up with a 1290 :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Lear300 on April 29, 2019, 03:02:36 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:
:laughing4:

Its a bad disease that, you end up with a 1290 :biggrin:

hahaha.....thats what is concerning me :drif: :deal:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on May 02, 2019, 08:32:54 pm
Were any of your replacement frames strengthened?
What prevents it from just happening again?

And JK, did they really just charge you R1k for all 4 of the spark plugs?
Hi yes R506.24 exl vat for 2 of the M12 and also R506.24 for the 2 M10 ones
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on May 02, 2019, 09:20:34 pm
Were any of your replacement frames strengthened?
What prevents it from just happening again?

And JK, did they really just charge you R1k for all 4 of the spark plugs?
Hi yes R506.24 exl vat for 2 of the M12 and also R506.24 for the 2 M10 ones

I have no personal knowledge of these spark plugs, but read on a european forum that they can actually easily last for 60k km?
What do the old ones look like? 'consumed'?
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on May 03, 2019, 07:21:06 am
Were any of your replacement frames strengthened?
What prevents it from just happening again?

And JK, did they really just charge you R1k for all 4 of the spark plugs?
Hi yes R506.24 exl vat for 2 of the M12 and also R506.24 for the 2 M10 ones

I have no personal knowledge of these spark plugs, but read on a european forum that they can actually easily last for 60k km?
What do the old ones look like? 'consumed'?

Also heard they last very long...

Remember KTM forgot to replace mine, I intend to do them and valve clearances at around 50k km or 45k km. Will give feedback and pics of the plugs then.



Those prices on the sparkplugs are very good JK, or on two of them it is, the other two was more 'normal' and readily available.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Jacobsroodt on May 06, 2019, 04:29:59 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on June 05, 2019, 08:42:01 pm
Hi Guys so just hit 32000km's and had some maintenance work to be done just before getting here.
Replaced the back tyre at 31860km and that means i got 6600km's with the new Mitas E07 Plus. As noted a bit of a disappointment as i got around 12000km's with the previous Mitas EO7. Fitted a Motoz Tractionator GS this time, so lets see how this tyre goes. Bike tyre warehouse came in @ R2400 fitted for this tyre, but got it for R2200 fitted from RAD.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on June 05, 2019, 08:48:41 pm
Sprocket and chain
The 1st set then lasted 32000km's. The chain angle on this bike has worried me from the start as the angle was very tight and i could see that there was gonna be a lotta chain slide wear. So for this but also i thought the bike felt sluggish as the gears went up i decided to up the back sprocket from 42 to 45. And must say so far i am not sorry.  >:D Nice lekker punch now when u open the throttle. Will have to see if the new replaced chain slide now lasts longer.  8)
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: m0lt3n on June 06, 2019, 11:43:46 am
yap, that sprocket change is a must on these bikes. 6th gear is useless without it
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: RobLH on June 06, 2019, 11:58:31 am
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Roadhawg on June 06, 2019, 12:06:15 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.

1090 R or S?   
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Noneking on June 06, 2019, 12:13:08 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.

Must be 1050 or 1190
1090 only launched in 2017.........
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: RobLH on June 06, 2019, 12:17:33 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.

Must be 1050 or 1190
1090 only launched in 2017.........

Apologies, you are correct it is a 2017 and it is an R (the same as yours).
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Roadhawg on June 06, 2019, 12:18:39 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.

Must be 1050 or 1190
1090 only launched in 2017.........

Apologies, you are correct it is a 2017 and it is an R (the same as yours).

Still, 90k is rough!
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Noneking on June 06, 2019, 12:26:54 pm
@ Lear it was done under warranty

My warranty is comming to end soon.....perhaps its time to get a new bike again and start the warranty over :peepwall:

Mate of mine was offered 90k for his 2016 1090 as a trade in for a 790 recently. Less than 10k on the clock and neat, so he's keeping it, unsurprisingly.

Must be 1050 or 1190
1090 only launched in 2017.........

Apologies, you are correct it is a 2017 and it is an R (the same as yours).

That's crazy!

Mine is being sold at KTM on the floor for R160k minus all the extras
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: JK on June 07, 2019, 11:18:13 am
Please tell me NOT to get involved in this topic . . . .  >:( :-\ :dousing: . . .

Ok i wil just say this . . .  Les than 2 years ago i am told that i will be a complete fool if i dont buy this 1090R it is the ultimate. . .  Now less than 2 years later the same people does not want it. . .  :dousing:

So yeah no surprise here as well  i am keeping it . . .
Title: Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
Post by: Bundu on June 07, 2019, 10:04:33 pm
Please tell me NOT to get involved in this topic . . . .  >:( :-\ :dousing: . . .

Ok i wil just say this . . .  Les than 2 years ago i am told that i will be a complete fool if i dont buy this 1090R it is the ultimate. . .  Now less than 2 years later the same people does not want it. . .  :dousing:

So yeah no surprise here as well  i am keeping it . . .

fark the haters! my 1290, that I have now had for 4 years, longer than any of the other bikes in the past 20 years, has been stunning! these are great bikes!