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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC8 1050 / 1190 / 1290 => Topic started by: JK on March 22, 2018, 02:11:44 pm

Title: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 02:11:44 pm
Hello dogs eish i have now been searching far and wide and cannot get any videos on the top speed  of these bikes.
What does the other owners here recon. What are the top speeds that u are getting out of your 1090's
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on March 22, 2018, 02:17:55 pm
Take around 25hp off this and then a additional10% speedo correction  :imaposer:

Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 02:52:58 pm
Lekker   :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Now please can i get a video like that with a 1090
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on March 22, 2018, 03:11:12 pm
Make one :)
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:31:15 pm
That is the reason for this post. I caaant ??  :patch:
My 1090 is limited to 207km/h
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on March 22, 2018, 03:48:00 pm
Yep it cuts out @ 207km'h    :xxbah: So does not run out of steam, there is a clear electronic intervention cut out
Is there any other owners that has the same  :patch:
Not everyone at KTM seems to be aligned about this. Some recon that is it how it is and cannot be removed.  :eek7:
Other again seems to think it can be removed
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bappas on March 22, 2018, 06:02:50 pm
Easy way to remove your genes from the gene pool. There is reasons for some things!
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bundu on March 22, 2018, 06:19:17 pm
IIRC some 1290's were limited depending on the speed rating of the tyres they were issued with and AFAIK this can be changed by the dealer
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on March 22, 2018, 07:08:09 pm
It is tire related.Agents can unblock if running speed rated tires
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on March 24, 2018, 04:37:28 pm
Nope apparently not on the 1090  :xxbah:
Was at Rad today and there is nothing in the ECU Map that can be switched or changes to take this limitation away
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bundu on March 24, 2018, 04:50:47 pm
does the 1090 not make about the same power as the 1200GS?  but then the GS is faster at top-end.... sounds weird
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on March 24, 2018, 09:11:09 pm
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Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on April 24, 2018, 05:18:32 pm
So i have friend that also bought a 2017 1090R and he has the same . . . Cuts out at 207km/h Is there no more 1090 R owners here ???

I on the other side managed to get rid of my limiter. As per my RR we had to take out the fuel pump in Namibie and the i saw how dirty the standard fuel filter was.
Replaced the full kit and now the limiter at 207 is gone. So was very happy to communicate this to KTM but then i hear there is a fuel pump recall on my bike which was NOT done on the 1000km service  >:( >:( So now the bike is going in for this and effectively i will lose the filter and o-ring work that i have done as they replace the whole pump with filter and 0-rings etc ??
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Tampan on April 24, 2018, 06:45:34 pm
So how fast did it go without the limiter?
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: m0lt3n on April 25, 2018, 09:19:35 am
So how fast did it go without the limiter?

Haha I also want to know
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bus on April 25, 2018, 09:34:40 am
It's mos a secret

:laughing7:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Roadhawg on April 25, 2018, 03:20:13 pm
* walks outside and hugs his 1190R *

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: 0012 on April 25, 2018, 03:21:29 pm
So how fast did it go without the limiter?

 :sip:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on April 25, 2018, 03:36:48 pm
* walks outside and hugs his 1190R *

 :biggrin:


 :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on April 26, 2018, 11:57:02 am
So how fast did it go without the limiter?

Eish and u blerry oks had to go and ask that question now  :lol8:
It now runs out of steam at 214km/h   :ricky
It has never been about a massive top end for me. I just could not understand why KTM will leave a 1050 unrestricted but restrict the 1090R   :patch: :patch:
So at least now the mystery about the limiter that no KTM dealer could agree on is solved . . . well at least for me  :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on April 26, 2018, 12:00:30 pm
Did you shift up from 5th ?
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: m0lt3n on April 26, 2018, 01:03:24 pm
What tyres you running JK? that's slow
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on April 26, 2018, 01:05:55 pm
Think i seen Anlas on recent trip like you had mOlt3n
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: J-dog on April 26, 2018, 01:26:07 pm
Why would you want to ride an adventure bike at 200 km/h  :eek7:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on April 26, 2018, 01:31:33 pm
Why would you want to ride an adventure bike at 200 km/h  :eek7:

Because it can :)
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: m0lt3n on April 26, 2018, 02:16:30 pm
Think i seen Anlas on recent trip like you had mOlt3n
guess it will be good then for about 230 with more road focused tyres.


Why would you want to ride an adventure bike at 200 km/h  :eek7:

Why is the earth round or the grass green? why not? Its a dual sport bike, it must do 80% of EVERYTHING
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: J-dog on April 26, 2018, 03:34:01 pm
 :lol8:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: armpump on April 26, 2018, 05:38:31 pm
Give it time  :pot:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bundu on April 26, 2018, 05:46:02 pm
I'm not a speed freak, more of an acceleration freak, I think, but at times it's fun to push the bike over 200, seeing it can do it, without too much effort :3some:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on April 27, 2018, 10:23:27 am
Hey guys i was running EO7's still.had the topbox on as i was coming from work.
I also are running a Unifilter which i am told takes a couple of horses away.
So sure yes think it hould be able to push 220 to 230 maybe. But as noted thats not an issue for me.
In our group we have couple of 1190's and a 1290 and 990's so there is always a little dice here and there if we are on a trip but most of the time on tar we are all.cruising around 150 anyway.
Just glad the limiter thing has been resolved  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: BiG DoM on April 27, 2018, 12:14:35 pm
So the limiter was a dirty faulty fuel filter  ::)
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on April 28, 2018, 04:03:00 pm
So the limiter was a dirty faulty fuel filter  ::)
Well the verdict is still not out yet. When i did the filter service the kit includes all the filters as well as the 0-rigs and other rubber grommets etc.
If i look at the comments on the 1090 Forum they are talking about the reason for the recall is about a 0-ring that cannot handle the methanol and then expands and then blocks fuel channels which then off course causes fuel starvation.
But none of the 0-rings actually controls fuel flow, but that could have just been bad terminology. As per the peecher below i am of the opinion that they could actually have been talking about this rubber guy. It has holes that must be processing fuel trough.
So i am of the opinion that it could have been this guy that was the cause of the perceived cut out at 207km/h, but which was actually fuel starvation
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bundu on May 04, 2018, 07:45:04 pm
Nope apparently not on the 1090  :xxbah:
Was at Rad today and there is nothing in the ECU Map that can be switched or changes to take this limitation away

I read on the german KTM forum that the 1090R is limited to 200km/h and can be software 'unlocked' by the dealer to 228km/h - There are some guys that have fitted other tyres and have 'unlocked' their bikes and now reach topspeed - they also say that the bike feels smoother, which could just be imagination

KTM SA website is actually quite clear on this......
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on May 08, 2018, 07:44:09 pm
Hi Bundu i had a look and as noted by you yes the website says that for the 1090R. I however suspect that was an incorrect copy and paste cause as i have noted Rad could not find any other Map for the 1090R other than the one i have in. Where on the 1290 they have a clearly marked maps one for with TKC tyres and one for more higher rated tyres.
I jave made contact with KTMSA directly and they have committed to clear this one up so lets see . . .
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Bundu on May 08, 2018, 08:00:26 pm
Hi Bundu i had a look and as noted by you yes the website says that for the 1090R. I however suspect that was an incorrect copy and paste cause as i have noted Rad could not find any other Map for the 1090R other than the one i have in. Where on the 1290 they have a clearly marked maps one for with TKC tyres and one for more higher rated tyres.
I jave made contact with KTMSA directly and they have committed to clear this one up so lets see . . .

I just had a look on the Austrian KTM website and they also state the same about dealers ability to increase the max. speed - you could also try to contact:
BRIAN TODD
CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER
KTM MOTORCYCLES SA (PTY) LTD
30 Monte Carlo Crescent, Kyalami Business Park
1684 Midrand, South Africa
P: +27 11 462 7796
brian.todd@ktm.com


Brian has assisted me well on numerous occasions with technical information

Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: RyanI on May 09, 2018, 08:33:29 am
These top speed numbers for the 1090 are lower than I expected. I remember a while back riding with a mate of mine who has a 990Adventure R. He managed to see 233 on the clock which I assume equated to about 210 - 215ish true speed. So was expecting a little more from a 1090 - limiter removed of course. 
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Lear300 on May 23, 2018, 05:34:12 pm
So i have friend that also bought a 2017 1090R and he has the same . . . Cuts out at 207km/h Is there no more 1090 R owners here ???

I on the other side managed to get rid of my limiter. As per my RR we had to take out the fuel pump in Namibie and the i saw how dirty the standard fuel filter was.
Replaced the full kit and now the limiter at 207 is gone. So was very happy to communicate this to KTM but then i hear there is a fuel pump recall on my bike which was NOT done on the 1000km service  >:( >:( So now the bike is going in for this and effectively i will lose the filter and o-ring work that i have done as they replace the whole pump with filter and 0-rings etc ??

KTM did mine at the 1000km service. I must admit though that RAD did not mention it and only when I went to Roost KTM did they let me know there was recall and arranged everything for  me.

I must also say, that anything above 170km/h and my front end is scary light. The TKC 80 that are fitted as standard with the bike is clearly not for speed. As a result I am too chicken to go over 170 as I don't know what the tires will do
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: JK on May 28, 2018, 02:01:48 pm
So i have friend that also bought a 2017 1090R and he has the same . . . Cuts out at 207km/h Is there no more 1090 R owners here ???

I on the other side managed to get rid of my limiter. As per my RR we had to take out the fuel pump in Namibie and the i saw how dirty the standard fuel filter was.
Replaced the full kit and now the limiter at 207 is gone. So was very happy to communicate this to KTM but then i hear there is a fuel pump recall on my bike which was NOT done on the 1000km service  >:( >:( So now the bike is going in for this and effectively i will lose the filter and o-ring work that i have done as they replace the whole pump with filter and 0-rings etc ??

KTM did mine at the 1000km service. I must admit though that RAD did not mention it and only when I went to Roost KTM did they let me know there was recall and arranged everything for  me.

I must also say, that anything above 170km/h and my front end is scary light. The TKC 80 that are fitted as standard with the bike is clearly not for speed. As a result I am too chicken to go over 170 as I don't know what the tires will do
Hi yes Lear on the TKC's u not gonna get past 180. So its wait then when those tyres are done and if u put on something that is higher speed rated then check for us what the topspeed is like  :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Jacobsroodt on May 06, 2019, 04:27:29 pm
TKC80s are H-rated tires with a maximum speed rating of 99 mph (160 kph). Best adhere to the manufacturers guidelines...
Title: Re: 1090 R Topspeed ????? Apparently the biggest kept secret ????
Post by: Lear300 on May 07, 2019, 12:10:50 pm
So i have friend that also bought a 2017 1090R and he has the same . . . Cuts out at 207km/h Is there no more 1090 R owners here ???

I on the other side managed to get rid of my limiter. As per my RR we had to take out the fuel pump in Namibie and the i saw how dirty the standard fuel filter was.
Replaced the full kit and now the limiter at 207 is gone. So was very happy to communicate this to KTM but then i hear there is a fuel pump recall on my bike which was NOT done on the 1000km service  >:( >:( So now the bike is going in for this and effectively i will lose the filter and o-ring work that i have done as they replace the whole pump with filter and 0-rings etc ??

KTM did mine at the 1000km service. I must admit though that RAD did not mention it and only when I went to Roost KTM did they let me know there was recall and arranged everything for  me.

I must also say, that anything above 170km/h and my front end is scary light. The TKC 80 that are fitted as standard with the bike is clearly not for speed. As a result I am too chicken to go over 170 as I don't know what the tires will do
Hi yes Lear on the TKC's u not gonna get past 180. So its wait then when those tyres are done and if u put on something that is higher speed rated then check for us what the topspeed is like  :thumleft:

So I forgot about this.....

anyway...I have now fitted the MT09 Scorpions front and rear. Hit a comfortable 198km/h on the clock this past weekend and then ran out of road so couldn't see where I would end up. I must say, I certainly felt like she was capable and at ease with going higher, but that could also just be me