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General => General Bike Related Banter => To Buy or Not To Buy => Topic started by: PottieP on July 19, 2018, 11:07:57 am

Title: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: PottieP on July 19, 2018, 11:07:57 am
Hi,

which is the best option to go for?

A new CRF 250 rally for R90K or a 7.5/10 2008 690 KTM for R50 000?

This will be my first bike and I will be using it to drive to work (10km a day) and then to explore the bush.

Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dirty Boy on July 19, 2018, 11:20:09 am
Mmmmm, I would say that as this is your first bike, the 250 would be the one to go for.
1. Smaller and better to learn on.
2. New and under warranty, so will give you time to learn all about maintenance.
3. By all accounts a very good bike (not saying the KTM isnt)
4. As a commuter first and adventure bike second, maybe the best one to start with.

Make sure to have extra finance for all the kit, regardless of which bike you choose. Good luck
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: sidetrack on July 19, 2018, 11:24:36 am
You might outgrow the 250 quickly depending on riding style. For 10 / 20 km commuting and exploring in the bush it will be perfect though. They have no issues besides soft suspension.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dwerg on July 19, 2018, 11:32:01 am
Don't buy an old 690
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Edgar on July 19, 2018, 11:39:26 am
I would say go for the Honda, but jeez at 90K it's getting very expensive. Still my choice would be the Rally :thumleft:
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: the_BOBNOB on July 19, 2018, 11:57:15 am
if its your first bike i would not buy either of those

a 690 at that price is just going to cost you money to fix up down the line

the crf 250 rally is very pap and you will get bored of it quickly

rather take R30k buy a smaller 2nd hand bike that you can learn on and use and then later sell it for R20k - R25k and then buy a bigger bike for the long term
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 19, 2018, 12:12:02 pm
Very good answers here, BUT my two cent is if you are tall enough for a 690 to be comfortable on it AND you are prepared to pay R 90 000 for a 250 Rally why not buy a low mileage 690 for R90 000?
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: 0012 on July 19, 2018, 12:34:47 pm
where in Botswana are you?
KTM spares might be difficult to get hold of. Honda might be a bit more available there, but have long waiting times.

I went for DR650 as a good compromise because of lack of bike suppliers/garages/support here, if you in Bots, might want to take that practical aspect into account.

Sorry I know this is a question of a choice between 2 bikes, so if confined to those two options:
Honda.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dirty Boy on July 19, 2018, 12:36:59 pm


rather take R30k buy a smaller 2nd hand bike that you can learn on and use and then later sell it for R20k - R25k and then buy a bigger bike for the long term

Good call. My first bike was a KLR. Learnt about bikes, learnt about riding and light enough to handle most stuff and it can go all day. It was just my bum that couldnt handle the seat all day .
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: sidetrack on July 19, 2018, 01:19:53 pm
I would say go for the Honda, but jeez at 90K it's getting very expensive. Still my choice would be the Rally :thumleft:
The Rally is still 84k
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: PottieP on July 19, 2018, 01:41:56 pm
Thanks for all the opinios.

I am also leaning towards the Rally.

I stay in orapa so trafic is not a problem and there is a lot of bush roads to explore.

Do you guys think the 250 will have enough power for sand riding?
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on July 19, 2018, 01:42:45 pm
The Rally is still 84k

And most dealers will sell them for R79k.

And demos and secondhand for R65k.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: 0012 on July 19, 2018, 01:48:09 pm
Do you guys think the 250 will have enough power for sand riding?

@Constantinople  has done extensive sand testing with his  ;D  can't remember if he did an RR of that Nam trip, I think he did.
But you can PM him if he doesn't see this thread.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Fransw on July 19, 2018, 01:50:51 pm
Thanks for all the opinios.

I am also leaning towards the Rally.

I stay in orapa so trafic is not a problem and there is a lot of bush roads to explore.

Do you guys think the 250 will have enough power for sand riding?

Pottie, get the 250 rally! They are very reliable. Stay away from an oldish 690.(2year+)

You don't want to struggle with brakedowns in the middle of no where! The crf250l is also an optio , about R10k cheaper..

Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Omninorm on July 19, 2018, 01:52:37 pm
Yeah the Honda 250 is probably the better buy for you here.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dwerg on July 19, 2018, 02:30:27 pm
Thanks for all the opinios.

I am also leaning towards the Rally.

I stay in orapa so trafic is not a problem and there is a lot of bush roads to explore.

Do you guys think the 250 will have enough power for sand riding?

Pottie, get the 250 rally! They are very reliable. Stay away from an oldish 690.(2year+)

You don't want to struggle with brakedowns in the middle of no where! The crf250l is also an optio , about R10k cheaper..

Low mileage 2014+ 690 is just fine. Mine is 4 years old and has been dead reliable and it's seen a lot of hard use. I did buy new though and never spared any expense on maintenance which is key of course. I've only had the rocker issue but even that didn't leave me at the side of the road.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dirt Junkie on July 19, 2018, 03:02:17 pm
690 might be to much power for you to handle as your first bike, if you go for one buy a newer 2013 up, look at a KLR, DR or XR might be better to buy cheaper and then upgrade later
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: RallyMan on October 23, 2018, 12:54:34 pm
Im in the same boat.. selling my A/T for a Rally 250 because I just don't do enough KM on the A/T to justify the monthly cost and insurance really done 6000km in 2 years
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: sidetrack on October 23, 2018, 03:46:58 pm
Im in the same boat.. selling my A/T for a Rally 250 because I just don't do enough KM on the A/T to justify the monthly cost and insurance really done 6000km in 2 years
Look for a demo can be had for 65k
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Spectaitor on November 01, 2019, 01:56:10 pm
What did you end up getting @PottieP
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: Dwerg on November 04, 2019, 02:29:04 pm
Some dealers are now doing new old stock 2018 690s for 99k. Or you could pay 90 for a 250 Rally if you like
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 04, 2019, 03:09:54 pm

Honda, however:

dont' overlook the CRF 250L - it costs a lot less, has quite a bit less weight on it (Rally is 13kg more if also taking the extra fuel into account IIRC) so the rear spring likely less saggy than that on the 250 Rally, due to the additional weight, etc.


When Rally was launched, an American (respected) motorcycle journo reckoned the 250L was the better bike at the price point, and left money over to make SOME changes, if needed.



Maybe a demo 250L, that would be my suggestion. If you pay less to start off, and then DO want a bigger bike, the less you paid initially, your are also likely to lose less money when selling it? Dunno!
Chris
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: teebag on November 04, 2019, 03:25:43 pm
Old thread - but FYI the Rally has 1" more suspension i.e. not the same as the L
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: IceCreamMan on November 04, 2019, 04:45:17 pm
Rally is a superb lil bike...I would happily have one. just wish honda would put the 286 motor in it.
Title: Re: New CRF 250 Rally or 2008 KTM690
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on November 05, 2019, 09:33:47 am


Quote from: teebag on Yesterday at 03:25:43 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=226740.msg4341289#msg4341289)>Old thread - but FYI the Rally has 1" more suspension i.e. not the same as the L
thanks, aware of that extra suspension - let me rather try and find the article!
Chris