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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => KTM LC8 1050 / 1190 / 1290 => Topic started by: Roadhawg on July 28, 2018, 05:30:35 pm

Title: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 28, 2018, 05:30:35 pm
Picked up my 1290 R this morning. :biggrin: :peepwall:   Bit of a long wait at the dealer, was there at 8am, only left with the bike after 11:30 which, for someone doubting his purchase a bit is a VERY long time.

Anyhoo, now to get the run-in kms done.     

Somehow they managed to screw up the software update though so even though it's on the newest version, none of the KTM MY RIDE features are there at all.   Will have to go back on Monday I guess.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Noneking on July 28, 2018, 05:32:37 pm
Congratulations!!
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on July 28, 2018, 05:37:51 pm
at last!!!

Congrats Boet!  :thumleft:   and many happy and safe kms - you're gonna love that motor!

Any extras? kept your exhaust?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 28, 2018, 06:34:54 pm
at last!!!

Congrats Boet!  :thumleft:   and many happy and safe kms - you're gonna love that motor!

Any extras? kept your exhaust?

I didn't wanna add anymore than absolutely necessary to the finance, so basically no extras, but I kept my bashplate and topbox.  Lost the Akra, but I was kind of getting over it anyway. It's a lot of money for a name and not much else.   The stock Superduke can sounds much better and will be cheap to replace if/when I ding it haha

Little annoyed that the bluetooth etc doesn't work.  But hell the rest is good. The motor does feel like it's gonna be a beast!   Tryna take it easy for the first 1000kms though.

Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on July 28, 2018, 06:53:05 pm
yes, I realise you were a bit squeezed with the finances - I have the Wings shorty and love the sound - maybe in a couple of months you can pick up something here - Enjoy!
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 28, 2018, 06:57:21 pm
Congrats, stunning bikes  :laughing4: :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Nigel X on July 28, 2018, 08:09:22 pm
Well done on an amazing bike.

Enjoy.

If I remember correctly My Ride takes a while to load once selected the first time.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Jehan on July 29, 2018, 01:36:00 pm
Congratulations Roadhawg.

Wow, awesome bike.  Must still wait a year or two before I can get one.  Eish, the wait.   :-\

May you have many safe and wondefull miles on the Beast.  Enjoy.   :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 29, 2018, 08:28:30 pm
I also has some issues with the app. Check the thread on the App. Some usefull tips there

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 29, 2018, 10:48:04 pm
I also has some issues with the app. Check the thread on the App. Some usefull tips there

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My issue is complete unavailability of any Bluetooth features on the bike. There is no option to pair or even look for a device at all. So I think it wasnít loaded during the bike setup.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:07:00 pm
My number 082 441 9554 I can whatsapp you pics and see if its the same as mine

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:13:47 pm
Step 1 and 2(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/1cae4c2f1f56e6c273d5a77fa85d4a82.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/ee947918796526188f6f2315fbea8c50.jpg)

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 30, 2018, 03:14:03 pm
My number 082 441 9554 I can whatsapp you pics and see if its the same as mine

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I highly doubt it's the same as yours.  There is no way to even start any pairing or anything.  You push "SET" and it's just Info, Motorcycle, Settings and Preferences.  No options for KTM MY RIDE or any other Bluetooth anywhere (even in each of those menus.)   No Bluetooth sign in the bottom left corner either. Between the time and Temp.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 30, 2018, 03:14:40 pm
Ya, you see mine doesnt have that.   It's like it was never installed.

Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:15:08 pm
3 4 and 5.  If its not there its probably not activated. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/9e8e5c346b7ccb1fbf00e13c702b1b7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/a80ed63019e6a07561c535438df886a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/a7ecd185c570456ccc57e6b72dae2576.jpg)

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:15:52 pm
Ouch a pity, take a quick ride to the dealer

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:16:58 pm
I have had issues with my TFT screen since day 2 of ownership. They replaced it last Saturday.

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 30, 2018, 03:22:59 pm
I have had issues with my TFT screen since day 2 of ownership. They replaced it last Saturday.

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Yeah I'm thinking about just banging in the 1000kms and getting it all sorted at the service.  I want them to check the front wheel/tyre also. It feels a bit twitchy over 130ish and looks to have a bit of a wobble in it.  It's not terrible though.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 30, 2018, 03:29:10 pm
I have had issues with my TFT screen since day 2 of ownership. They replaced it last Saturday.

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Yeah I'm thinking about just banging in the 1000kms and getting it all sorted at the service.  I want them to check the front wheel/tyre also. It feels a bit twitchy over 130ish and looks to have a bit of a wobble in it.  It's not terrible though.
I tested the demo with the TKC 80's on, when under power from about 150 onwards it start to snake heavily. If you close the throttle its gets better. TKC 80 has the 160 max rating. I changed mine before delivery to Pirelli Scorpions, free of charge.

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 30, 2018, 03:31:37 pm
I have had issues with my TFT screen since day 2 of ownership. They replaced it last Saturday.

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Yeah I'm thinking about just banging in the 1000kms and getting it all sorted at the service.  I want them to check the front wheel/tyre also. It feels a bit twitchy over 130ish and looks to have a bit of a wobble in it.  It's not terrible though.
I tested the demo with the TKC 80's on, when under power from about 150 onwards it start to snake heavily. If you close the throttle its gets better. TKC 80 has the 160 max rating. I changed mine before delivery to Pirelli Scorpions, free of charge.

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Yeah.  It also settled down a lot by the time I had put a few hundred kms on.     The TKC's were great on my 1190 though. 
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: AfricaOffroad on July 31, 2018, 10:02:30 am
I think this bike is a figment of Stu's imagination - still to see a picture of it, with a mug shot and today's newspaper
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Poffmuis on July 31, 2018, 10:15:24 am
I think this bike is a figment of Stu's imagination - still to see a picture of it, with a mug shot and today's newspaper
+1
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 31, 2018, 10:29:08 am
 :laughing4:

(https://i.imgur.com/pCp8EYY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4EMxwiR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EQblOKU.jpg)

I haven't had much time on it.  Did 180ish kms on Saturday and then a quick 300km ride on Sunday morning. 

Now:
- Get the bluetooth stuff sorted
- 1st service.
- Probably quick shifter
- Organise UNI-filter kit (or Gasket + DNA)
- some tank protector vinyls.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: NEON DEON on July 31, 2018, 10:52:15 am
cool , enjoy Stu
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on July 31, 2018, 11:57:41 am
Quickshifter is a must.

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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 01, 2018, 09:36:23 am
(https://i.imgur.com/exZ9Xb8.jpg)

That's all I got.  Taking it to the dealer on Saturday to hopefully sort out.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: TriBaldy on August 01, 2018, 10:59:16 am
Congrats Stu!

Beautiful machine - enjoy.

Check out Evolution Motorcycles in Benoni - Jacques Nel 072 023 4455 for the tank protectors, I have a set of rubber ones from him that make the vinyl protectors look terrible by comparison.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 01, 2018, 12:05:35 pm
Congrats Stu!

Beautiful machine - enjoy.

Check out Evolution Motorcycles in Benoni - Jacques Nel 072 023 4455 for the tank protectors, I have a set of rubber ones from him that make the vinyl protectors look terrible by comparison.

Shot bru!

Cool I'll have a look!   

The 6500RPM run is killing me haha
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: AfricaOffroad on August 01, 2018, 01:33:19 pm
After 500 km, I couldn't consistently stay below 6500rpm
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 01, 2018, 01:52:25 pm
After 500 km, I couldn't consistently stay below 6500rpm

Yeh. Iíve had it moan at me once or twice for sure  :biggrin:

But Iím trying to be good and just give it a break for the first while. Trying to vary the revs as much as possible and give it short bursts of bigger throttle openings.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: cjvrensb on August 04, 2018, 12:20:38 pm
Be prepared for a stiff R1700 first service :xxbah:... I was quite surprised as the Super 10's I have owned1000 km service was R600-R700...
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Nigel X on August 04, 2018, 12:23:53 pm
Just the labour on a two hour first service will set you back R990!
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 04, 2018, 06:09:48 pm
Be prepared for a stiff R1700 first service :xxbah:... I was quite surprised as the Super 10's I have owned1000 km service was R600-R700...


Yeh I knew it was about that going in.

Will hopefully get it done this week.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 05, 2018, 02:28:52 pm
Slowly getting used to this big beasty.

It's weird.  It doesn't FEEL as crazy as the 1190, but then you look down and you're doing like 30km/h faster than you thought you were.  Even in corners, it just seems scarily easy to do silly speed, everywhere, with no effort.   The 1190 felt more "peaky" than this one (to be fair I have been trying to keep it under 6500rpm though).

Screen, I don't think is as good as the 1190R. I might look at getting an S screen and see how that goes. This wind has been cray the last few days so it's hard to get a feel for it.

Got the KTM My Ride stuff working and it's pretty cool. The Navigation is definitely handy, and the music is cool, but you aren't hearing a whole lot at cruising speed haha.

I really like that you can switch the MTC off and on while moving.
55kms more till service  :biggrin:   I wonder how many times around the block that is?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on August 05, 2018, 03:18:28 pm
the last 55kms you could actually, on an open stretch of road, take it up to 9 000RPM full throttle, close throttle and repeat - makes rings run against compression - Yamaha SA tech manager suggested that when I had the XT1200

are you going to get orange headlight cover and/or spots, if you do a lot of town riding?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 05, 2018, 04:40:54 pm
the last 55kms you could actually, on an open stretch of road, take it up to 9 000RPM full throttle, close throttle and repeat - makes rings run against compression - Yamaha SA tech manager suggested that when I had the XT1200

are you going to get orange headlight cover and/or spots, if you do a lot of town riding?

Yeah I've given a few good pulls, Probably 8000Rpm 2 or three times, and a few loaded WOT pulls from low down to the 6500 point which I imagine would do what you're saying.   I feel like the run-in period is also to run-in the rest of the bike, not really the motor. Bearings and bushing and stuff get a chance to settle before you start to really lean on it haha :biggrin:


I feel like a headlight cover is probably a good idea....I imagine this Alien light costs a bit to replace! :o   I'll do spots at some point, but most of my riding is out of town.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on August 05, 2018, 05:40:23 pm
yes, warranty won't cover a rock busting your headlight  :lol8:

I treated my bike well running it in and gradually 'abusing' it more and more - the motor really starts livening up at around 10k km - you gonna love it!

just read on my 1290 FB page of 2 guys that have now reached 50k km without ANY shit and even after 39 other bikes, the one guy, who works for kawasaki, believes the 1290 is the best bike he's ever owned - I agree with him - enjoy!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Draadwerk on August 05, 2018, 07:44:29 pm
Congratulations!!!!!

Enjoy the bike.....I have also been tempted quite a bit over the last few months....and you have now done so again.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 05, 2018, 10:05:54 pm
Congratulations!!!!!

Enjoy the bike.....I have also been tempted quite a bit over the last few months....and you have now done so again.

Shot man.

I haven't had a chance to take it onto the dirt yet.  I think there'll be some getting used to though. The front/rear balance seems quite different, like there's more weight in the front compared to the 1190.
From what  I can see they reduced the trail on the 1290 so that maybe explains the weight feeling, and the sharp handling.
(https://i.imgur.com/narayAW.jpg)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 07, 2018, 08:16:50 am
Tryng to get this 1st service done is proving difficult haha. 
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 07, 2018, 02:10:58 pm
It's so awesome when you buy the most expensive bike a dealer even sells, and it then takes them 2 days to ignore you when you send a mail. And get told "We'll get back to you" when you call to follow up on your multiple email requests.


 >:(
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on August 07, 2018, 05:54:19 pm
It's so awesome when you buy the most expensive bike a dealer even sells, and it then takes them 2 days to ignore you when you send a mail. And get told "We'll get back to you" when you call to follow up on your multiple email requests.


 >:(

where did you buy? same place as last?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 07, 2018, 06:46:10 pm
It's so awesome when you buy the most expensive bike a dealer even sells, and it then takes them 2 days to ignore you when you send a mail. And get told "We'll get back to you" when you call to follow up on your multiple email requests.


 >:(

where did you buy? same place as last?

Yeh. It seems it has changed quite drastically recently.
Finally got it booked in tomorrow ďweíll have it done by Friday hopefullyĒ.

Hopefully they can restore my faith. A long weekend with no bike and Iíll lose my shit.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Draadwerk on August 07, 2018, 07:10:13 pm
Wednesday and Friday for a service? Really? Why can't you have it back Wednesday afternoon?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on August 07, 2018, 07:16:12 pm
It's so awesome when you buy the most expensive bike a dealer even sells, and it then takes them 2 days to ignore you when you send a mail. And get told "We'll get back to you" when you call to follow up on your multiple email requests.


 >:(

where did you buy? same place as last?

Yeh. It seems it has changed quite drastically recently.
Finally got it booked in tomorrow ďweíll have it done by Friday hopefullyĒ.

Hopefully they can restore my faith. A long weekend with no bike and Iíll lose my shit.

I got an email from them recently about this 2 or 3 day service thing.... not what I'm used to.... early in, same day out....

I'm wondering how KTM sales have picked up since the 1*90 range was launched.... too few dealers perhaps?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Tom van Brits on August 07, 2018, 09:18:14 pm
What a stunning bike!  :laughing4:

I hope they offer a loan bike while servicing, a 1290 Duke  :laughing4:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 08, 2018, 08:47:22 am
Wednesday and Friday for a service? Really? Why can't you have it back Wednesday afternoon?
Dropped it off this moring and they said they'd see what they can do.

To be fair, they mentioned there is a huge backlog of stuff there at the moment (But why is the question?) and they are doing renovations in the workshop now as well. The guys in the workshop, when you get hold of them, are trying to help as best they can.

Hopefully it's done today though.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on August 20, 2018, 03:28:21 pm
Only saw this now! Congrats Roadhawg!
last time I was on the forum you were undecided. The bike looks great and I am sure it will treat you well!

Responsibilities have kept me off my 1190 for a while now, reading the excitement in this thread its time to get riding again
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 20, 2018, 03:45:27 pm
Only saw this now! Congrats Roadhawg!
last time I was on the forum you were undecided. The bike looks great and I am sure it will treat you well!

Responsibilities have kept me off my 1190 for a while now, reading the excitement in this thread its time to get riding again
Thanks man!! yeah I am stupid, that's for sure.   Also need to ride more but having the stock airbox paranoia right now haha


Guess I should update this.

So having more than 6500rpm at my disposable, this thing is a bit of a beast. 

It still doesn't FEEEL as snappy as the 1190, power-wise, but then you look down and you're doing 30-40km/h more than you thought you were....So it'd definitely faster, it just does it with a little less drama.

The handling feels quicker than the 1190, but I believe they reduced the trail so that explains it. It also means its a bit more twitchy on the highway and when you really open up with the TC off. The front does shake a bit more but nothing out of control.  I havent taken it over 165ish really because of the TKC80s.

Suspension wise, I was a bit dissappointed initially as it just didn't feel right, but after the 1st service it felt miles better.  I think maybe they didn't do the setup right suring the PDI and sorted it out during the service.  I feel like it's again a bit more responsive than the 1190.  Where you would use big inputs and chuck the 1190 around, this responds to a much lighter touch and you need to consciously be a bit more gentle with the controls and body position etc.   It rewards you big time when you ride it properly though.  I have some open fields at my house that I take a shortcut through sometime with a few little bumps and jumps and it feels really good.  Just waiting on the UNI Filter to arrive so I can do some real dirt riding and see how it goes.

TC off and Sport Mode and it is  A LOT of bike. It nearly caught me out yesterday with a quite spectacular wheelie :biggrin:     I kind of wish there was something in between full nanny Traction Control and "Here's 160hp on knobblies....Good luck!!" :biggrin:


It took me a while to gel with the bike, and it was a bigger change than I initially anticipated....I almost thought I had made a big mistake (and when I think of the price, sometimes I still do TBH) but it's growing on me pretty quickly now.

Added the Superduke Exhaust and Pre-filters so far.  UNIfilter and tank protection stickers next.

(https://i.imgur.com/2NTMIBv.jpg)


On the Dealer:  They had a massive backlog at the place when new management took over. It seems the workshop just stopped all work at that point, but bikes were still coming in.  So they squeezed me in for a 1st service, and got it done in 3 days. I don't think that would be the norm going forward.  The guy running the workshop now is very well respected, and I've never heard a bad word spoken about him, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.   
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on August 20, 2018, 03:53:43 pm
that sounds like a lot of fun, as new toys should be! I take a while to gel with all my bikes and don't buy on feel but rather on reviews because of that. This sounds like another example of that.
That stubby slipon makes the bike look like the word FUN.

On the airbox issues, I know not much have changed, but I haven't heard of one instance yet of dust ingestion on the 1090 or 1290. I think its only the old paranoia riding everyone.

On the bike not feeling as dramatic as the 1190, is that not maybe because of you not having an Akro fitted?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on August 20, 2018, 04:02:50 pm
that sounds like a lot of fun, as new toys should be! I take a while to gel with all my bikes and don't buy on feel but rather on reviews because of that. This sounds like another example of that.
That stubby slipon makes the bike look like the word FUN.

On the airbox issues, I know not much have changed, but I haven't heard of one instance yet of dust ingestion on the 1090 or 1290. I think its only the old paranoia riding everyone.

On the bike not feeling as dramatic as the 1190, is that not maybe because of you not having an Akro fitted?

Nah the SD can is definitely louder than the Akra. Not so bad at idle but its definitely more of a braap when you open it up.

Its hard to explain. It just doesnt feel as highly strung as the 1190.  Hell, I'll go ride more and let you know hahaha
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on August 21, 2018, 06:27:51 am
that sounds like a lot of fun, as new toys should be! I take a while to gel with all my bikes and don't buy on feel but rather on reviews because of that. This sounds like another example of that.
That stubby slipon makes the bike look like the word FUN.

On the airbox issues, I know not much have changed, but I haven't heard of one instance yet of dust ingestion on the 1090 or 1290. I think its only the old paranoia riding everyone.

On the bike not feeling as dramatic as the 1190, is that not maybe because of you not having an Akro fitted?

Nah the SD can is definitely louder than the Akra. Not so bad at idle but its definitely more of a braap when you open it up.

Its hard to explain. It just doesnt feel as highly strung as the 1190.  Hell, I'll go ride more and let you know hahaha

LOL You mean you will go take one for the team, do us a favour and do more research!
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on September 06, 2018, 10:00:53 am
I christened the bloody thing in the parking lot of my local Engen. Standing still.  With the sidestand out :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:   IDIOT!!!


I was in shorts and a T-shirt just quickly popping to the shops. Got back on the bike and it felt like my wallet, in my left pocket, wasn't securely in the pocket.  Leant to my right to push it in more, bike starting going to the right.....and some more....and more.....and "oh shit it's past the point of catching!!!!"    :imaposer:   What a cock. :lol8:

The crashbars work very well.   
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on September 06, 2018, 01:25:05 pm
Eish Boet  :-\

1st time to pick it up? Could you manage alone?
Title: I am weak.
Post by: Renrew on September 06, 2018, 01:49:26 pm
Gosh...

I remember when I first dropped my 1190, only time I ever dropped it, and I scratched the crashbars.

Week later got new crashbars.

Couldnít live with it with the rest of the bike still being spotless.

Had it been a year later I probably wouldnít have bothered.

We underestimate they weight of these bikes, past 25degrees and youíre going down! Loving the SD can, MUCH better solution than anything else. Iíd probably opt for the SD AKRA pipe though.

Congrats!


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Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on September 06, 2018, 04:24:24 pm
Eish Boet  :-\

1st time to pick it up? Could you manage alone?

Yeah i find it really easy to pick up the good old fashioned way, facing the bike....But it might be the power of sheer embarrassment I was feeling too :-[ :-[  Haha

Bike's fine, little scratch on the crash bars and the SD can. Worst is the scratch on the clutch cover from the brake pedal.....I wish I had stuck some covers on their already.   I;m definitely going to add those.  But yeah, it happens sooner or later, now I'll just be less scared when it inevitably happens offroad.

I do still feel like an absolute chop though.   Could everyone going "Look at this idiot with a fancy bike and no clue!!" :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on September 06, 2018, 06:52:11 pm
Eish Boet  :-\

1st time to pick it up? Could you manage alone?

Yeah i find it really easy to pick up the good old fashioned way, facing the bike....But it might be the power of sheer embarrassment I was feeling too :-[ :-[  Haha

Bike's fine, little scratch on the crash bars and the SD can. Worst is the scratch on the clutch cover from the brake pedal.....I wish I had stuck some covers on their already.   I;m definitely going to add those.  But yeah, it happens sooner or later, now I'll just be less scared when it inevitably happens offroad.

I do still feel like an absolute chop though.   Could everyone going "Look at this idiot with a fancy bike and no clue!!" :biggrin: :biggrin:

don't feel bad, has happened to me as well.... foot slipping on sand when coming to a stop - embarrassing, but fuck that, that's how one learns, even after many years
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on September 12, 2018, 08:13:36 am
odd that it scratched so easily on the clutch cover. I think mine is still scratch-less and I have fallen uncountable times.
Or maybe I need to go check again
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on September 12, 2018, 09:11:51 am
odd that it scratched so easily on the clutch cover. I think mine is still scratch-less and I have fallen uncountable times.
Or maybe I need to go check again

You fall in interesting places not parking lots though :biggrin:   I think when it's perfectly flat and hard ground, the brake lever hits the floor and is pushed into the clutch cover more easily.   


Any ideas for engine case protectors?  This dude on Facebook is importing some but they're over R2k.  Otherwise I'm going to look at having some carbon fibre ones made.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on September 12, 2018, 11:33:54 am
Hyde had some, think they were around R600. Cant remember now why I haven't bought yet (except for them being ugly)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 08, 2018, 10:20:35 am
First real offroad ride.  Out to Parys and then the Vredefort dome loop around the river a bit.

1- God damn it's fast.  Even in Offroad mode, the speed sneaks up quickly.  Nudged 120 a few times (which is fast for me) and I've only ever done that like once on the 1190.  I think it's the longer gearing as well as the sheer grunt.
2- on the gearing, it does seem happier at low RPM than the 1190.   3rd at around 80 feels like too much rpm, but then 4th drops the revs under 4000, but it feel fine. It doesn't struggle at all cruising under 4k rpm.   I still want to shorten the gearing via 16T front.

3- It does feel a little harsher than the 1190.  This may be because I'm riding harder/faster than I did previously and also just getting used to this higher spring rate in the forks. It just seems to not like corrugations at all, banging and clattering around.....Maybe I just need to go faster haha. I just felt like I was working harder, but there was a lot of loose sand on that route compared to what Im used to.  Felt good in the sand though.

4- Cruising back on the N1, with the navigation going on the dash, and playing tunes in my helmet, I was loving life.  :biggrin: It's bloody good at doing big tar distances, I'm not sure why it feels easy than the 1190 but it does, to me anyway.


Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on October 08, 2018, 11:27:16 am
Awesome stuff.

interesting comment on it seemingly being harsher. Are you riding comparable suspension settings?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 08, 2018, 01:09:47 pm
Awesome stuff.

interesting comment on it seemingly being harsher. Are you riding comparable suspension settings?

I haven't fiddled with anything so I PRESUME it's on the standard settings.  I should probably check though :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 08, 2018, 09:35:06 pm
Oh ya, consumption for the 300km ride was 4.8l/100.

So Iím slow  :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on October 08, 2018, 10:09:38 pm
Oh ya, consumption for the 300km ride was 4.8l/100.

So Iím slow  :biggrin:

WHAAAAT?!!! ride that damn bike!!  ;) :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

I never get under 6.6l/100km on a tank  :'(
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: mtr89 on October 12, 2018, 02:13:57 am
I dont know why think you're weak, who wouldnt wanna buy that bike.
Glad you're enjoying the bike, post some more pics though man
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 12, 2018, 08:25:10 am
I dont know why think you're weak, who wouldnt wanna buy that bike.
Glad you're enjoying the bike, post some more pics though man

Thats the weakness, giving in to temptation hahah :biggrin:

Trying to decide if these tyres will last a trip to lesotho and back

(https://i.imgur.com/f8LJcWi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WF2ztAm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NYzTLHH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KfnIOzn.jpg)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 29, 2018, 07:38:50 am
4 day trip to Swaziland.  Pretty epic!   LOVING the bike.   

Banging it on the tar pass up to Kaapsehoop and then between Barberton and Bulembu (Holy shit what a road!!!!) and it was epic.  Even on knobblies getting some real lean on and chilling with guys on Tigers with trail tyres.  Really never felt like the knobblies where really sliding....They seem to talk to you a bit on the way to the limit lol, so you know when to back off a bit.

Then a lot of Dirt....the road from Bulembu to Piggs peak is also epic.  Really pushed the big girl on that road a bit and it came alive. Man that was a jol.   Some other road of the weekend I got caught at the back and decided rather to chill than to fight my way through the dust.  I like being able to see where I'm going. 

We took some chilled roads down to Hawane and then Mlilwane and having the music control on the dash was really great. Just cruising those passes listening to tunes. Perfect.

Then the long road home yesterday at 140-150 all day.  No problems.


The only thing I need to figure out is chain lube.   After the weekend of dusty riding the chain was moaning like hell on the way home yesterday.  I see motorex is bringing out an adventure lube soon so maybe that is the way.
Options currently seem to be: Offroad lube and re-apply every 2 bloody minutes. Or Onroad lube and pick up huge amounts of dirt and dust on the fun bits and then it squeaks and chirps all the way home on the tar.

(https://scontent-jnb1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44857170_2026450970711045_1200688086468526080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeHm22k64lduTk_kfkTOk_WBLqcO2F7W0kCJrDlwmQrj3_3lL2Kx-VaqWrQsU4Rxq_eM3JyDoAaLgEmKfKQGxXyTDTJUWojoUAlxaBWwfn0L8A&_nc_ht=scontent-jnb1-1.xx&oh=87bf621897ee431ca976c9811cc8ac2b&oe=5C4C6408)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 29, 2018, 10:05:29 am
i think the security cable will work better if you put it through the rim

1 spoke ???

sorry but 1 spoke is not going to be any kind of deterrent ???

(https://i.imgur.com/NYzTLHH.jpg)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 29, 2018, 10:16:04 am
i think the security cable will work better if you put it through the rim

1 spoke ???

sorry but 1 spoke is not going to be any kind of deterrent ???

(https://i.imgur.com/NYzTLHH.jpg)

Haha yeah it's just a paint threading it through the whole wheel.   It's also just tied to a generator, so they could just steal both :biggrin:   
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Manic on October 29, 2018, 10:23:32 pm
While on a trip I use Q20.
Wont say its the best, but it sure cures the chain moaning. Mine sometimes start to vibrate when the chain is very dry.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on October 30, 2018, 07:38:18 am
While on a trip I use Q20.
Wont say its the best, but it sure cures the chain moaning. Mine sometimes start to vibrate when the chain is very dry.

Yes!!  I get hectic engine vibes over like 5000RPM when the chain get dry.  Numb hands, feet and balls all the way home yesterday :biggrin:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: the_BOBNOB on October 30, 2018, 11:33:04 am
Haha yeah it's just a paint threading it through the whole wheel.   It's also just tied to a generator, so they could just steal both :biggrin:

Get a nice disc lock - they work great  :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on November 12, 2018, 08:17:39 am
Made some changes:

Scott Adv upper crash bars.
(https://i.imgur.com/4RQ3azj.jpg)




Then I got the Rottweiler quick flip mirror mounts from my Aunt who came over from the states.  I bought the mirrors locally (much cheaper than Rottweiler, but they don't have set indents for the positions, you just move em where you want em.)   Getting used to them. They do seem to reduce buffeting on the highway a bit, but need more riding time to say definitively.
(https://i.imgur.com/wSDf9fJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WKKc0kC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IRK5UeF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OgkmE4n.jpg)

I like the look without giant mirrors.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Manic on November 12, 2018, 08:21:20 am
Looks good  :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on November 12, 2018, 08:50:03 am
Looks good  :thumleft:

The bars do make it feel as wide as a GS though :biggrin: :peepwall:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: ianb on November 12, 2018, 11:12:08 am
Nice bars .Enjoy.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on November 12, 2018, 11:30:17 am
don't those mirrors hamper you a bit when lane splitting?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on November 12, 2018, 01:20:10 pm
don't those mirrors hamper you a bit when lane splitting?

Haven't done any hectic splitting yet, but it's been ok so far.  I have literally done like 20kms with them on, I need some more time with them to really see. I'm going to try the position in the 3rd pic And see how that goes, Because they're so wide you get a view of almost directly behind you if you have any of your body in view (shoulders), so to get a good side-rear view I need to get used to not seeing my own shoulder haha.

Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 03, 2019, 12:39:17 pm
Done some work on the beast.  After some epic road riding in Sabie in December and a Trackday in Jan, back to dirt status.

Fitted Powerparts hand guards and drilled holes to mount the rottweiller mirror mounts.
(https://i.imgur.com/iOKtLte.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s1yFepM.jpg)

Made a decent heat shield for the pannier racks (Shorty exhaust is a bit dangerous for soft bags and Rokstraps :biggrin:)
(https://i.imgur.com/icDmNhJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/btXhOUQ.jpg)

And fitted GPS as per other thread.  Sani end of the month. KEEN!

Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Welsh on May 03, 2019, 01:34:33 pm
Black is the worst colour for a heat shield try silver. 😎 exhaust side
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 03, 2019, 01:43:45 pm
Black is the worst colour for a heat shield try silver. 😎 exhaust side

Ag it only really needs to protect the furthest bottom corner. The rest is just to make it look a bit less random 😂
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on May 06, 2019, 08:10:59 am
Your bike is looking good Roadhawg. Nice!
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 06, 2019, 12:46:04 pm
SHot man.

It's pretty much exactly how I want it now.  Still undecided about the upper crash bars, but doing a Sani trip end of the month so they'll stay on for that at least.

Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on May 06, 2019, 03:30:29 pm
SHot man.

It's pretty much exactly how I want it now.  Still undecided about the upper crash bars, but doing a Sani trip end of the month so they'll stay on for that at least.



Join Losper on a Lesotho ride then you wont be undecided! haha
Whats your opinion on the air intake setup vs 1190?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 06, 2019, 03:44:23 pm
SHot man.

It's pretty much exactly how I want it now.  Still undecided about the upper crash bars, but doing a Sani trip end of the month so they'll stay on for that at least.



Join Losper on a Lesotho ride then you wont be undecided! haha
Whats your opinion on the air intake setup vs 1190?

It's the same.  Same airbox and basic intakes.  You can just put KTM's prefilters instead of using the UNI's
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on May 07, 2019, 07:12:54 am
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 07, 2019, 08:53:43 am
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on May 07, 2019, 04:08:58 pm
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.

won't it move the torque curve slightly to the left when looking at the X-axis in km/h, resulting in higher torque at slower speeds?
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 07, 2019, 09:32:02 pm
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.

won't it move the torque curve slightly to the left when looking at the X-axis in km/h, resulting in higher torque at slower speeds?

You calibrate the dyno to the vehicles gearing with each run. So I guess if you calibrated it stock, then stuck the different sprocket on and tested it the actual numbers would be different.

But from what I understand if you run it as normal they should be the same. I know some guys that own and run a dyno, Iíll ask them, theyíre smarter than me. (Thatís how I discovered a 1190 is longer than a Hayabusa  :biggrin: )
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on May 07, 2019, 09:40:06 pm
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.

won't it move the torque curve slightly to the left when looking at the X-axis in km/h, resulting in higher torque at slower speeds?

You calibrate the dyno to the vehicles gearing with each run. So I guess if you calibrated it stock, then stuck the different sprocket on and tested it the actual numbers would be different.

But from what I understand if you run it as normal they should be the same. I know some guys that own and run a dyno, Iíll ask them, theyíre smarter than me. (Thatís how I discovered a 1190 is longer than a Hayabusa  :biggrin: )

would be interesting to know - but the way I see it, is if the engine is at higher revs at (now after sprocket change) lower speed, the engine will give you the torque and kW that it normally did at the normal speed - the curves are for the engine and its RPM
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 07, 2019, 09:52:47 pm
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.

won't it move the torque curve slightly to the left when looking at the X-axis in km/h, resulting in higher torque at slower speeds?

You calibrate the dyno to the vehicles gearing with each run. So I guess if you calibrated it stock, then stuck the different sprocket on and tested it the actual numbers would be different.

But from what I understand if you run it as normal they should be the same. I know some guys that own and run a dyno, Iíll ask them, theyíre smarter than me. (Thatís how I discovered a 1190 is longer than a Hayabusa  :biggrin: )

would be interesting to know - but the way I see it, is if the engine is at higher revs at (now after sprocket change) lower speed, the engine will give you the torque and kW that it normally did at the normal speed - the curves are for the engine and its RPM

Yeh the graph is torque/hp vs RPM not speed so they should be identical, unless you rig it with the calibration story.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: m0lt3n on May 09, 2019, 08:49:26 am
what Bundu said.

Figures are the same, but its delivered sooner and quicker. same as low range in 4x4 (but not as profound)

Reason I did sprocket change was to allow slower crawling speed. Its something like 6kmph vs 8kmph idling in gear, clutch out.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on May 09, 2019, 10:20:52 am
what Bundu said.

Figures are the same, but its delivered sooner and quicker. same as low range in 4x4 (but not as profound)

Reason I did sprocket change was to allow slower crawling speed. Its something like 6kmph vs 8kmph idling in gear, clutch out.

Yeah in real world conditions it changes things a bit, but I dyno shouldn't see any difference.
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Manic on May 09, 2019, 08:23:06 pm
another random question....
If you dropped a tooth or two on the 1190, wouldn't the low-down torque be similar?

I went one tooth down on the front of the 1290 as well :biggrin:

Stock it seemed to have a VERY long 6th gear, but it may have just been that I was used to the 16T on the 1190. I have heard many people say that 6th is long on the 1290 though so I think it is actually geared differently.  16T shortened that slightly, and just seems to suit my riding style better.

I suppose shortening the gearing will make it FEEL torquier but won't actually change the numbers on a dyno. The 12 does seem to have more bottom end and is more linear, where the 1190 felt more peaky.

won't it move the torque curve slightly to the left when looking at the X-axis in km/h, resulting in higher torque at slower speeds?

Yes.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 01, 2019, 10:27:26 am
Haven't managed to ride much lately.
Went screwing around last night finding bit of dirt near my house :biggrin:

Still loving the thing though.

(https://i.imgur.com/QBjxjnh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9glCRIA.gif)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 08, 2019, 09:54:38 am
The crashbar maker has made some revisions and offered to modify mine for me :thumleft:


God I forgot how good it looks without the upper bars :drif:
(https://i.imgur.com/toNOGto.jpg)

Might leave them off until I know I'm doing more gnarly stuff (although they for sure saved my ass at Sani)
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Bundu on July 08, 2019, 09:21:43 pm
I agree, most of those upper crash bars look super fuggly - I saw some a while ago that didn't look too bad, but can't find them now - think they were made in Italy...
Title: Re: I am weak.
Post by: Roadhawg on July 09, 2019, 08:15:16 am
I agree, most of those upper crash bars look super fuggly - I saw some a while ago that didn't look too bad, but can't find them now - think they were made in Italy...
The Outback Motortek ones look decent but $$$$$  Hell they're all $$ but the Scott Adventure ones I have are very well priced and clearly do the job.

They're not such a mission to fit and remove so might just leave them off when not needed.