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Technical Section => Make / Model Specific Discussions => BMW 1200 LC => Topic started by: max lange on September 04, 2018, 01:05:27 pm

Title: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: max lange on September 04, 2018, 01:05:27 pm
So I tried earlier in the year to sell my LC Trophy, took it off the market and recently re-advertised it. I assumed the market was just down but this time round I have comments that the LC's are unreliable and problematic. Mines a 2015 trophy and I havent had a single issue, I not heavy off-road but do a fair amount of dirt, and while I was living in Cape Town commuted daily?


I have only done 30k km's and in the last year only 3000km, hence looking to sell.


What am I oblivious to?
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Brucet on September 04, 2018, 01:42:47 pm
I guess I am also oblivious to the problem thing.

Between 6 bikes belonging to 5 friends, I know of no issues except the one needed a new battery after standing in a holiday home for 3 months with the charger plugged in but not switched on. Ive heard of some guys preferring the older GS's as there are less electrics but thats just a personal preference i think.

Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: silvrav on September 04, 2018, 01:56:32 pm
So I tried earlier in the year to sell my LC Trophy, took it off the market and recently re-advertised it. I assumed the market was just down but this time round I have comments that the LC's are unreliable and problematic. Mines a 2015 trophy and I havent had a single issue, I not heavy off-road but do a fair amount of dirt, and while I was living in Cape Town commuted daily?


I have only done 30k km's and in the last year only 3000km, hence looking to sell.


What am I oblivious to?

Buyer tactics imho...trying to get the sales price reduced
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Draadwerk on September 04, 2018, 02:11:06 pm
Also absolutely no problem here. Best bike out there now and at any given time.....
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Jughead on September 04, 2018, 02:16:10 pm
The early models (2013 - Early 2014) had a few issues.

2015 on VERY few.  My wife has the 2015 LC GSA and hasn't had a single issue with it since new.  And she rides it like a hooligan!
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: kwassi on September 04, 2018, 03:30:30 pm
IMHO I would buy your bike if I had the money.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on September 04, 2018, 03:33:36 pm
Max just watch the "For Sale" posts, everything has slowed down and folks are not as quick to purchase.

Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Jacobsroodt on September 04, 2018, 03:35:42 pm
Blame the poor economy. I struggled to sell a F800GS last year as well. Thank you Zuptas!
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Superboet on September 04, 2018, 03:49:19 pm
Would also like to know, because the obvious step after an AC is the LC
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: DirtRebell on September 04, 2018, 08:06:38 pm
Also absolutely no problem here. Best bike out there now and at any given time.....

What he said.

Ive put close to 40k km on mine this year. Only issues had was the two TPM's
And being out of warrantee, Donford CT still replaced the parts for free. I paid labour.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Phence on September 04, 2018, 09:53:05 pm
I heard LCs being unreliable from two different guys. Not sure though what years. The one guy swore to only touch air cooled as he has one. I'm no expert though just what I heard.

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Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Sheepman on September 04, 2018, 10:08:35 pm
Nothing wrong with a Trophy - best all round GS in my opinion  ;) Economy is just a tortoise....and those with money, want to " steal " bikes.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Brucet on September 05, 2018, 08:03:48 am
The one guy swore to only touch air cooled as he has one.

Yip and thats how the stories usually start. Let me guess he also mentioned that there are too many gizmo's and electrickery? Some people claim the best is what they currently own until they change and then usually their opinion changes with their purchase.
If you want to buy a LC then speak to the guys that own them. Some will give you honest feedback.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: TheBear on September 05, 2018, 08:29:44 am
1 x 2014 LC (wife's) now on 55000km absolutely problem free.
1 x 2014 LC (mine) sold on 65000km.  Had a few initial glitches, all solved by dealer under warranty.  (Battery, right side switches, stalling issue).
1 x 2015 LC (mine) now on 30000km absolutely problem free.

Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: cocky on September 05, 2018, 08:35:50 am
Also absolutely no problem here. Best bike out there now and at any given time.....

What he said.

Ive put close to 40k km on mine this year. Only issues had was the two TPM's
And being out of warrantee, Donford CT still replaced the parts for free. I paid labour.
You are a poor example, never home and leave your children and wife destitute while you eat muffins at Donfords under the pretext of working.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Noneking on September 05, 2018, 09:39:25 am
I had small issues with both my LC GSAs. Dealer sorted out under warranty. Wonderful bikes and if I would still say itís the best adv tourer out there. Very capable and reliable in my opinion

Riding KTM now and miss build quality of the beemers. Pity BMW doesnít build more offroad orientated bikes
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 05, 2018, 10:41:48 am
 Pity BMW doesnít build more offroad orientated bikes

And it would be so easy to do that. Just put better shocks on a 800 and bring out a 1000 in a twin engine too. :deal:
And bring back a revised XChallenge with proper shocks.
and off course a new HP 2.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: w@nted on September 05, 2018, 02:55:33 pm
I had absolutely no issues with my LC. Only a clutch slave recall and the stanchions fix.

I then sold my 2015 LC Trophy below my asking price. Everyone wants the "full spec" version, with the features they will only use 1% of the time.

Like Noneking said, I only sold my trophy to get a more capable off road machine for my skills level (Husky 701).

Regarding the sales, my opinion is the economy is not healthy, with people reluctant to buy bikes AND way too many full spec GS LC bikes available on the second hand market.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: BlingKing on September 06, 2018, 08:18:42 am
I have a Trophy with 60 000Kms on it and no problems ever.
Had a bit of rust on the rear final drive coupling - that could have been prevented had I known the problem before but it is lubed and 100% now.
Besides that it hasn't missed a beat.
Why the Trophy? I didn't want that crap suspension package in the full spec version. I am the suspension expert - ergo I will tell my suspension what to do manually not some stupid ECU that is always one or two steps behind.
What I do want though is the cruise control and the quick-shifter which can be retro-fitted. I wish they would make an Adventure version of the trophy nomnomnom.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 06, 2018, 09:51:09 am
 Adventure version of the trophy

I thought there was a "plain" LCA model with manual shocks and minimal gadgets.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Duke916 on September 07, 2018, 05:38:59 pm
So I tried earlier in the year to sell my LC Trophy, took it off the market and recently re-advertised it. I assumed the market was just down but this time round I have comments that the LC's are unreliable and problematic. Mines a 2015 trophy and I havent had a single issue, I not heavy off-road but do a fair amount of dirt, and while I was living in Cape Town commuted daily?


I have only done 30k km's and in the last year only 3000km, hence looking to sell.


What am I oblivious to?

The wife also has one that she was thinking of selling, talked to Peet  ( PC2E) and he recons that the Trophy is a bit of a niche bike. Not for everyone because of the bike being very basic
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Herklaas on September 07, 2018, 05:54:38 pm
Also absolutely no problem here. Best bike out there now and at any given time.....

What he said.

Ive put close to 40k km on mine this year. Only issues had was the two TPM's
And being out of warrantee, Donford CT still replaced the parts for free. I paid labour.
You are a poor example, never home and leave your children and wife destitute while you eat muffins at Donfords under the pretext of working.
:sip: :sip: Ja, and his office is now at the Seafood Lapa.  :3some: :lamer:
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Battlestar on September 07, 2018, 07:05:37 pm
If I was in the market for an LC I would buy yours with my eyes closed.

Market just seems very depressed at the moment. Leave at a dealer as a sell on behalf and see what happens. Sometimes the convenience of having an F&I on hand when somebody is interested helps.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: DirtRebell on September 07, 2018, 09:24:51 pm
Also absolutely no problem here. Best bike out there now and at any given time.....

What he said.

Ive put close to 40k km on mine this year. Only issues had was the two TPM's
And being out of warrantee, Donford CT still replaced the parts for free. I paid labour.
You are a poor example, never home and leave your children and wife destitute while you eat muffins at Donfords under the pretext of working.
:sip: :sip: Ja, and his office is now at the Seafood Lapa.  :3some: :lamer:

hey watchit - I are Melkbos's own Boorman. I get filmed on my daily commute even. Yet to see footage though.
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: K-9 on October 09, 2018, 02:28:22 pm
My 2014 GSA LC
The front shock went at 20 000kms, (3 months of riding). Replaced under warrantee. First LC shock to leak in the world.
Headlight got slight dust/water marks inside and was replaced under warrantee.  As they where curious what was happening to the light. 
Front brake pipe was replaced as the clear plastic coating discoloured in one area.
My son took over the bike 2016.
fork fix done.
The battery packed up in 2018 after 4 years. replaced.
Sold the bike 2018, with 70 000kms of trouble free ridding.
Bike is now in joberg with orange crash bars and leather seat!!

My 2nd, 2016 GSA crash bars rusted, replaced under warrantee.
Son owns it.  No problems.
forks fix done.

My 3rd GSA LC 2018 tft bike, rims replaced under warrantee manufacture fault.

So nothing major, just minor/micky mouse stuff, certainly not problematic.  Impressed they changed the parts.




Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: OomD on October 09, 2018, 03:55:18 pm
1 x 2014 LC (wife's) now on 55000km absolutely problem free.
1 x 2014 LC (mine) sold on 65000km.  Had a few initial glitches, all solved by dealer under warranty.  (Battery, right side switches, stalling issue).
1 x 2015 LC (mine) now on 30000km absolutely problem free.
Curious why you sold your 2014 and just bought another LC?
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: BuRP on October 10, 2018, 09:49:57 am
First LC shock to leak in the world

Amazing, there's still people out there that believe these lines?
If you do then I can introduce you to the first chap who had a (rather serious!) problem with the cardan drive.
Oh, he's a Saffer too, just a coincidence btw  ;)
Let's hear it, who else was the first to have a problem with <any part of the bike>?

LC's are good bikes if only for the reason that the entire bike was mirrored (drive opposite side) / complete engine&gearbox changed/redesigned / multiplate clutch / and more, this all whilst keeping the bike looking near identical, an impressive feat - and nigh on no problems.
The reason why good bikes are less worth used (this is a worldwide trend) is that more people can & prefer to buy new, and do this, hence the used market is a buyer's one. Biking has become a bit elitist, they're expensive. They're updated after 2 years and people replace theirs, of course loosing monies to the used market - get used to it  8)
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: BuRP on October 10, 2018, 09:54:42 am
This ties in well with my above post:

Curious why you sold your 2014 and just bought another LC?


Probably because of this....

1 x 2014 LC (mine) sold on 65000km
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: TheBear on October 13, 2018, 04:53:54 pm
1 x 2014 LC (wife's) now on 55000km absolutely problem free.
1 x 2014 LC (mine) sold on 65000km.  Had a few initial glitches, all solved by dealer under warranty.  (Battery, right side switches, stalling issue).
1 x 2015 LC (mine) now on 30000km absolutely problem free.
Curious why you sold your 2014 and just bought another LC?

65000km: 25% of reason
Serious backside itch for a red one:  50% of the reason
Really, really good deal: 25% of the reason
Title: Re: R1200GS LC problematic bike ???
Post by: Esplin on February 12, 2019, 01:52:00 pm
Have the 2015 Trophy. In for the 20k service. No problems at all.