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Title: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BIGMAC on November 01, 2018, 04:10:46 pm
Does any one have any updates for the Roof of Africa 2018 - possible routes. I see no top overseas riders are coming.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BIGMAC on November 01, 2018, 04:24:29 pm
https://esatv.co.za/index.php/2018/10/31/2018-motul-roof-of-africa-harder-to-ignore/ interesting read  :3some:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BIGMAC on November 09, 2018, 07:23:39 am
Any Updates for Routes or Area???  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BIGMAC on November 13, 2018, 07:15:05 am
New Area and New Start / Finish

http://roofofafrica.info/2018/11/12/africas-oldest-enduro-event-makes-some-exciting-changes/

 :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: RyanI on November 13, 2018, 08:34:17 am
No news of top riders yet. Lyndon Poskitt has confirmed he will be riding a KTM250TPi.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on November 13, 2018, 09:07:30 am
Please let me know if anyone hears of cancellations for accommodation at Ramabanta.
 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Plothond on November 21, 2018, 08:50:37 pm
Please let me know if anyone hears of cancellations for accommodation at Ramabanta.
I've got two beds available

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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on November 21, 2018, 08:54:56 pm
Are they in one of the chalets or rondavels or backpackers? I will send you a PM.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: mtr89 on December 07, 2018, 09:09:25 pm
I see Lyndon Poskitt posted that it took him 9 hours to do 140 kays today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 09, 2018, 06:40:08 am
Not a single KTM on the podium this year.  :ricky:

1 Wade Young   Sherco   09671   Sherco Racing   00:09:50   01:23:52   06:54:48   06:18:58   14:47:28
2 Travis Teasdale   Beta    02909      00:09:56   01:22:19   07:35:17   06:02:27   15:09:59
3 Kyle Flanagan   Yamaha   10155   Bidvest Blu Cru Yamaha R   00:10:19   01:34:19   07:26:54   06:17:54   15:29:26
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: exkdx on December 09, 2018, 12:25:27 pm
Not a single KTM on the podium this year.  :ricky:

1 Wade Young   Sherco   09671   Sherco Racing   00:09:50   01:23:52   06:54:48   06:18:58   14:47:28
2 Travis Teasdale   Beta    02909      00:09:56   01:22:19   07:35:17   06:02:27   15:09:59
3 Kyle Flanagan   Yamaha   10155   Bidvest Blu Cru Yamaha R   00:10:19   01:34:19   07:26:54   06:17:54   15:29:26

Well spotted :laughing4:
Not even a white KTM :biggrin:
Wayde clearly in a class of his own winning by almost half an hour :ricky:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 10, 2018, 10:01:47 am
Not a single KTM on the podium this year.  :ricky:

1 Wade Young   Sherco   09671   Sherco Racing   00:09:50   01:23:52   06:54:48   06:18:58   14:47:28
2 Travis Teasdale   Beta    02909      00:09:56   01:22:19   07:35:17   06:02:27   15:09:59
3 Kyle Flanagan   Yamaha   10155   Bidvest Blu Cru Yamaha R   00:10:19   01:34:19   07:26:54   06:17:54   15:29:26

Been like that for a few years  :o .

Sherco, Beta, Yamaha, Yamaha, KTM, Husky, Husky

Impressive lighties - new Wade's and Travis's =  Mathew Green 6th and Calvin Hume 7th in Gold!  Protege's of legend Wild Will Gillitt - himself finishing his 13 Gold in a row and getting a 15th position on a Yammy yz125x!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: shark_za on December 10, 2018, 01:20:07 pm
Very impressive lighties coming through; Kayde Mante winning silver and even Matt Burger taking bronze.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 10, 2018, 03:19:03 pm
Unfortunately while the riding was good some aspects have slipped again - why they have not managed to keep Daryl Curtis aboard as race director baffles me (he was spectating and camping near us at Ramabanta). He was such a good ambassador for the event last year and the logistics were excellent. He is globally respected in the sport and they could not ask for more.

This year the spectator maps were like children's join-the-dots colouring in books - pathetic in the extreme! No pre-race video promos, no hype for followers and spectators, no decent website updates etc. Really it is time there was succession before the ...  eehrr ... Luck runs out completely. The rider numbers were dramatically down and NO professional international riders - there were about 20 of the worlds top extreme enduro riders last year?  Spectator numbers were thus proportionately down.  ROA needs to get it together and get on the new WESS circuit before it slides more.  :-\
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Buff on December 10, 2018, 03:26:58 pm
Weird, all the feedback I've read from the riders themselves seemed to be positive... or at least an improvement over last year.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 10, 2018, 03:29:57 pm
Weird, all the feedback I've read from the riders themselves seemed to be positive... or at least an improvement over last year.

Same here - even from spectators.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 10, 2018, 03:34:28 pm
Weird, all the feedback I've read from the riders themselves seemed to be positive... or at least an improvement over last year.

I am not saying it was a bad event, just that it is not what it used to be.The tracks were good and there was a new venue for the RTH prologue, which was a good change. You though need top international riders, you need good media coverage and tracking support, and you need enthusiastic spectators in numbers.

BTW - We even had skommy abusive pissed spectators putting rocks and bushes on race lines to prevent riders getting through and so advantage their own riders. They literally had a brawl on the pass trying to beat up a toppie who called them out on it - after calling him 'a mothers p*es'. Luckily his son was there to see them off. All of this in full view of about 50 spectators at Ramabata  :o
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Buff on December 10, 2018, 03:38:37 pm
I hear you BD but low spectator volumes could also be attributed to the current state of our economy. It's one of the reasons I wasn't there this year, I can only stretch a Rand so far  :(
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 10, 2018, 03:44:37 pm
I hear you BD but low spectator volumes could also be attributed to the current state of our economy. It's one of the reasons I wasn't there this year, I can only stretch a Rand so far  :(

Agree - the economy certainly plays a role. Even more reason to up the stakes to keep the event alive and popular.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 10, 2018, 03:47:11 pm
I hear you BD but low spectator volumes could also be attributed to the current state of our economy. It's one of the reasons I wasn't there this year, I can only stretch a Rand so far  :(

I didn't go this year because of the dates, in November I can do, but first 2 weeks in December we have too much happening before change freeze. Last year was a blast with all the snow, I really enjoyed it out there, even more so than other years, even if the route/track/racing was a disappointment.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BLK on December 10, 2018, 03:49:36 pm
Weird, all the feedback I've read from the riders themselves seemed to be positive... or at least an improvement over last year.

I am not saying it was a bad event, just that it is not what it used to be.The tracks were good and there was a new venue for the RTH prologue, which was a good change. You though need top international riders, you need good media coverage and tracking support, and you need enthusiastic spectators in numbers.

BTW - We even had skommy abusive pissed spectators putting rocks and bushes on race lines to prevent riders getting through and so advantage their own riders. They literally had a brawl on the pass trying to beat up a toppie who called them out on it - after calling him 'a mothers p*es'. Luckily his son was there to see them off. All of this in full view of about 50 spectators at Ramabata  :o

They need to find out who the rider was of those bad folk(Causing !@#$) and ban him from the next 5 x races.Gotta set an example to the illiterate.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Buff on December 10, 2018, 03:50:12 pm
I hear you BD but low spectator volumes could also be attributed to the current state of our economy. It's one of the reasons I wasn't there this year, I can only stretch a Rand so far  :(

Agree - the economy certainly plays a role. Even more reason to up the stakes to keep the event alive and popular.

Did your laaitie race again this year?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 10, 2018, 09:15:41 pm
I hear you BD but low spectator volumes could also be attributed to the current state of our economy. It's one of the reasons I wasn't there this year, I can only stretch a Rand so far  :(

Agree - the economy certainly plays a role. Even more reason to up the stakes to keep the event alive and popular.

Did your laaitie race again this year?

No - he has been studying etc.this year. We went and spectated together on Husky 630 and 701. Was a blast  :thumleft: Josh certainly suffered some FOMO and wants to be there in the thick of things again next year.  :ricky:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Pom17 on December 11, 2018, 01:22:15 pm
Weird, all the feedback I've read from the riders themselves seemed to be positive... or at least an improvement over last year.

I am not saying it was a bad event, just that it is not what it used to be.The tracks were good and there was a new venue for the RTH prologue, which was a good change. You though need top international riders, you need good media coverage and tracking support, and you need enthusiastic spectators in numbers.

BTW - We even had skommy abusive pissed spectators putting rocks and bushes on race lines to prevent riders getting through and so advantage their own riders. They literally had a brawl on the pass trying to beat up a toppie who called them out on it - after calling him 'a mothers p*es'. Luckily his son was there to see them off. All of this in full view of about 50 spectators at Ramabata  :o

WTF?????

Where was this? I raced and luckily did not lose track due to kak like that. Would have been furious.
Or did I lose the track and did not even notice? Everywhere I went spectators pointed out he correct lines.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Half - Bac on December 11, 2018, 02:22:19 pm
Unfortunately while the riding was good some aspects have slipped again - why they have not managed to keep Daryl Curtis aboard as race director baffles me (he was spectating and camping near us at Ramabanta). He was such a good ambassador for the event last year and the logistics were excellent. He is globally respected in the sport and they could not ask for more.

This year the spectator maps were like children's join-the-dots colouring in books - pathetic in the extreme! No pre-race video promos, no hype for followers and spectators, no decent website updates etc. Really it is time there was succession before the ...  eehrr ... Luck runs out completely. The rider numbers were dramatically down and NO professional international riders - there were about 20 of the worlds top extreme enduro riders last year?  Spectator numbers were thus proportionately down.  ROA needs to get it together and get on the new WESS circuit before it slides more.  :-\

This is the unfortunate part of the ROA. Most complaints re organisation come from the spectator group, which is the same group that contribute ZERO to the organisational costs. The general concensus from the riders, Teams, Team Management, sponsors et al is that the organisation, route layout and difficulty, locations, RTH etc were spot on - the best in many years! For once, Peter Luck deserves some credit, IMO
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 11, 2018, 10:45:48 pm
Unfortunately while the riding was good some aspects have slipped again - why they have not managed to keep Daryl Curtis aboard as race director baffles me (he was spectating and camping near us at Ramabanta). He was such a good ambassador for the event last year and the logistics were excellent. He is globally respected in the sport and they could not ask for more.

This year the spectator maps were like children's join-the-dots colouring in books - pathetic in the extreme! No pre-race video promos, no hype for followers and spectators, no decent website updates etc. Really it is time there was succession before the ...  eehrr ... Luck runs out completely. The rider numbers were dramatically down and NO professional international riders - there were about 20 of the worlds top extreme enduro riders last year?  Spectator numbers were thus proportionately down.  ROA needs to get it together and get on the new WESS circuit before it slides more.  :-\

This is the unfortunate part of the ROA. Most complaints re organisation come from the spectator group, which is the same group that contribute ZERO to the organisational costs. The general concensus from the riders, Teams, Team Management, sponsors et al is that the organisation, route layout and difficulty, locations, RTH etc were spot on - the best in many years! For once, Peter Luck deserves some credit, IMO

A Half Baced response and assertion >:D You must know that the ROA has been plagued in recent years by very serious problems related DIRECTLY to the organisation and many many complaints coming directly from RIDERS and their teams. A rider death and official investigation by MSA evidence this. Yes many of the issues have been addressed (actually had to be to retain the event license), but it is still far from on point. I have followed the race since the 80's and been involved from a rider perspective for the past 5 years, and only this year again as a spectator. The ROA would be nothing without spectators (as with most all motorsport) - they need to be listened to as well as accommodated. My observations and concerns stand. If you want an international event (yes with top international riders) you need professional org, events management, media coverage and spectator support ... and yes happy riders of course. There are international benchmark events to learn from - and ROA can even learn a lot from our own Impi events. 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: GraZer on December 12, 2018, 05:54:23 am
BTW - We even had skommy abusive pissed spectators putting rocks and bushes on race lines to prevent riders getting through and so advantage their own riders. They literally had a brawl on the pass trying to beat up a toppie who called them out on it - after calling him 'a mothers p*es'. Luckily his son was there to see them off. All of this in full view of about 50 spectators at Ramabata  :o

I would just like to point out that both parties were drunk and the so called toppie went over looking for a fight. The statements of spectators placing rocks and branches in the way of riders were unfounded.
In the end the resulting brawl made the day unpleasant for everyone.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: windswept on December 12, 2018, 06:17:32 am
No news of top riders yet. Lyndon Poskitt has confirmed he will be riding a KTM250TPi.

He has posted some pics of his Roof on advrider.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: CycleC on December 12, 2018, 08:19:53 am
Big Dom is like the self appointed Helen Zille of the ROA, always having a go , just like the class nerd looking to score points with the teacher, He has a hidden agenda to discredit the organizers and the event and will try his best to always point out the bad instead of the positive changes that made the 2018 ROA a huge success to 95% of all the competitors and spectators, Honestly no one in the know actually takes him seriously. A sheep vs a lion -  No one cares about you or your "handlers" attempts to discredit the ROA. If you don't like what you see simply stay away, honestly the race will not miss you one bit. Maybe you should go to another big event like Romaniacs and then compare, you just might be surprized as to how good the ROA actually is.

Lets us get something 100% straight right now: The ONE and ONLY reason none of the Top international riders did not make it to the 2018 ROA is due to the introduction of the WESS (World Enduro Super series) which is run in Europe and is tied to KTM, Husky and RED Bull. Therefor the Factory riders are on contract to ride and participate in these events , its not like Jarvis, Bolt Letti etc can just come to Lesotho by themselves. They are employed by the factory and have to listen to their boss's. The WESS has caused other extreme races like in OZ and South America to loose the Top Riders so its no only the ROA.

Keep it up Dom, you are doing yourself no favours looking like a whining baby
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: shark_za on December 12, 2018, 08:34:14 am
I saw some okes messing around with rocks and stuff, it was in a simple section and did not affect the riders one little bit.

As for the routes and format this year, top notch.
The service points were better than they have been in the last few years and the riders really spoke well of the routes.
The spectator maps were as detailed as they needed to be to get to DSP and road crossings. I personally prefer this side of Lesotho to the Bushmans and north bits.

Complaints? trying to get food at the start/finish and DSP's was a joke. Typical Lesotho planning.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Welsh on December 12, 2018, 08:51:13 am
I saw some okes messing around with rocks and stuff, it was in a simple section and did not affect the riders one little bit.

As for the routes and format this year, top notch.
The service points were better than they have been in the last few years and the riders really spoke well of the routes.
The spectator maps were as detailed as they needed to be to get to DSP and road crossings. I personally prefer this side of Lesotho to the Bushmans and north bits.

Complaints? trying to get food at the start/finish and DSP's was a joke. Typical Lesotho planning.

You don't look malnourished?  8)
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Half - Bac on December 12, 2018, 09:02:59 am
BTW, total entries this year were 272 - 18 riders more than last year's 254. "Entries dramatically down?"
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 12, 2018, 09:26:51 am
Big Dom is like the self appointed Helen Zille of the ROA, always having a go , just like the class nerd looking to score points with the teacher, He has a hidden agenda to discredit the organizers and the event and will try his best to always point out the bad instead of the positive changes that made the 2018 ROA a huge success to 95% of all the competitors and spectators, Honestly no one in the know actually takes him seriously. A sheep vs a lion -  No one cares about you or your "handlers" attempts to discredit the ROA. If you don't like what you see simply stay away, honestly the race will not miss you one bit. Maybe you should go to another big event like Romaniacs and then compare, you just might be surprized as to how good the ROA actually is.

Lets us get something 100% straight right now: The ONE and ONLY reason none of the Top international riders did not make it to the 2018 ROA is due to the introduction of the WESS (World Enduro Super series) which is run in Europe and is tied to KTM, Husky and RED Bull. Therefor the Factory riders are on contract to ride and participate in these events , its not like Jarvis, Bolt Letti etc can just come to Lesotho by themselves. They are employed by the factory and have to listen to their boss's. The WESS has caused other extreme races like in OZ and South America to loose the Top Riders so its no only the ROA.

Keep it up Dom, you are doing yourself no favours looking like a whining baby

You are trying to suppress honest feedback to protect your own self interests and profit. By insulting me and having your own whine (wine?) you are proving exactly what a twat you are. There is no hidden agenda, and no handlers. I have attended other international events and am a supporter of the Roof - my only interest is seeing it be the best it can be. The previous arrogance and deaf ears to competitors inputs lead directly to previous problems.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 12, 2018, 09:48:23 am
BTW - We even had skommy abusive pissed spectators putting rocks and bushes on race lines to prevent riders getting through and so advantage their own riders. They literally had a brawl on the pass trying to beat up a toppie who called them out on it - after calling him 'a mothers p*es'. Luckily his son was there to see them off. All of this in full view of about 50 spectators at Ramabata  :o

I would just like to point out that both parties were drunk and the so called toppie went over looking for a fight. The statements of spectators placing rocks and branches in the way of riders were unfounded.
In the end the resulting brawl made the day unpleasant for everyone.

The observations are completely founded. I witnessed it first hand and there is video footage of the youngsters placing branches and rocks on the climb in front of Ramabanta Trading post. The older man simply called them out on this cheating behaviour and was abused verbally and then physically. They continued with it even afterwards and when an experienced rider later asked them on arriving at the obstacles who had placed them there he was also also verbally abused. The same guys abused slower riders - calling them "Bronzy Pussies" etc - one rider even got off his bike and was ready to sort the one guy out. They also left their broken cooler box and other trash on the mountain. The guys identities and employers in the biking industry are known. The one youngster actually races and his sponsors are aware of this incident.

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: CycleC on December 12, 2018, 09:55:35 am
You are trying to suppress honest feedback to protect your own self interests and profit. By insulting me and having your own whine (wine?) you are proving exactly what a twat you are. There is no hidden agenda, and no handlers. I have attended other international events and am a supporter of the Roof - my only interest is seeing it be the best it can be. The previous arrogance and deaf ears to competitors inputs lead directly to previous problems.

Your ignorance is trumped by "your" arrogance.

1. I have nothing more to do with the ROA other than being a spectator , so your self interest and profit comment is again utter nonsense
2. Wine- I hope you are not talking about alcohol as I have been a non drinker for over 30 years - again your assumption is utter nonsense
3. By whinging on forums year after year is becoming tiresome, just like the boy who cried wolf. No one cares about it anymore, maybe they would if it came from a credible person but you are not that person. If you where a man why not set up a face to face meeting with the organising committee and express your views, this way you can see 1st hand the challenges they may or may not face.
4. Funny how my 12 year old son figured out the spectator maps but you as a supposedly intelligent adult could not.

I could go on and on but I have had my say, Good luck living your 1/2 empty life. Please go and enjoy the Impi or whatever else you claim to be the best.

Have a lovely X Mas and New year
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 12, 2018, 10:04:00 am
 :imaposer:

Ja, further proof the more things change the more they stay the same.

And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too, Sir.

 :santa: :rendeer:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Sithe on December 12, 2018, 02:45:30 pm
Handbags  :pot:

Let's be honest now ... the spectator guides were not better than previous two years guides. I concluded this year that the best way to follow the Roof is to go there with your dirt bike, that's if you are there to watch the racing.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 12, 2018, 03:30:37 pm
Good point Sithe. :thumleft:

Big Dom - no need to make it personal,please. We have enough of this bullshit in R&P as it is.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 12, 2018, 09:20:22 pm
BTW, total entries this year were 272 - 18 riders more than last year's 254. "Entries dramatically down?"

2016 = 382 riders  ???
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 13, 2018, 05:43:46 am

Big Dom - no need to make it personal please. We have enough of this bullshit in R&P as it is.

For clarity. From the outset I merely expressed a genuine opinion on the subject. When I was then attacked personally I responded to the ad hominem insult. 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 13, 2018, 07:16:37 am
Have to agree with @BiG DoM

CycleC took some real cheap shots. Shame on you man.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: CycleC on December 13, 2018, 07:35:24 am
Lets hope this sinks in, read it, study it and understand it.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Vintage_Mania on December 13, 2018, 09:07:19 am
Lets hope this sinks in, read it, study it and understand it.

I urge you to do the same....
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BiG DoM on December 13, 2018, 10:43:43 am
Lets hope this sinks in, read it, study it and understand it.

I urge you to do the same....


Indeed. At my age I am certainly not here to be schooled by a palooka espousing Yanky quotes.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: shark_za on December 13, 2018, 10:51:52 am
So funny, like the okes fighting over the rocks in the path.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Renrew on December 13, 2018, 11:12:15 am
The last roof I did was 2016, it was such a monumental fuckup I decided to give it a skip for a good couple of years until they learn from the Impi - Now the Impi, that’s one helluva show indeed. The 2016 Roof really screwed me over, hence my “boycot”, but In saying that, I love the Roof, think it has such an amazing heritage and following, world-famous terrain and riding. Hope it get’s to where it can be (Maybe it is, wasn’t there this year).

Congrats to everyone that did it!


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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Pom17 on December 18, 2018, 12:57:14 pm
Competed this year and had my family and friends there for support. So here is my take on it.

Toilets
This was apparently an issue in the previous years. I did not make use of them. But my mom came to me to tell me how clean the toilets were and that there was someone there 24/7 to clean the place. So well done on that. Public toilets suck so making sure its clean is a big bonus

Water
2016 people ran out of water and there were complaints about water at unassisted refuels in the mountains. As soon as I passed the unassisted refuel there was a medic and a marshal offered me water. I came through rather early, so not sure how long it lasted. But I was impressed.

Registration
Registration this year was kind of brutal. They checked every single thing on the scrutineering form. Even my pegs, levers and checked to see if all spokes on the wheels were tight. What I did not like was the fact that we had a list with items that we needed to bring with to scrutineering, this included a few basic items but we did not know that we had to have everything there. Our camelbacks and medical kit was left at our accommodation. They did understand it luckily and let us go through. We were forced to stick the racing numbers on the bikes right there, our bikes were full of dust from the trailer etc. But all the above probably necessary.

Tracks
I do think that bronze was maybe a bit tough this year compared to silver and gold. Lots of bronze guys fell out on the Friday, and keep in mind that these were guys that already qualified under difficult conditions in May. So they were people that can ride. Also, I am not being sour about it, I finished and finished well. Just an observation.

Round the Houses
Love the new format. Just hated the fact that some of us had to be there by 8am and only rode at 11am. Also felt like they dragged the round the houses out a bit too much with the side shows. Keep in mind, after round the houses you still had to load up and leave for time trial an hours drive away. Lots of sitting around and waiting if you were riding bronze

DSPs
They were a bit clustered but not much you can do about that. So many riders and support crew, space will be an issue. I got someone from my support to wait at the start and show me the exit again when I leave. Otherwise I would have been completely lost in the chaos.

Spectator map
Dont see the issue with it, my parents could figure it out and they are not accustomed to the event or the organising. There were even signs on the roads pointing you to spectators points and DSPs

Race day starts
When you do the time trial and after day 1 of racing. You get a start time. Previous years it happened that some people would just push in on race day one and go whenever they please. This caused bottlenecks and kak on the route. This year they checked and marked every single person off a list to make sure you start on you designated time slot. One you got from racing the time trial. So no more chancers pushing in at the front.

We got updated with everything that we needed via a whatsapp group. It worked perfect. All in I think it was a great event and the only thing is that I feel sorry for the bronze guys that got time barred on Friday. It was a long day in the saddle and for some of them it was their 2nd attempt.



Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 18, 2018, 04:48:52 pm
Thanks for your post Pom :thumleft:

Good to hear things are getting better.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Nuts4Dakar on December 20, 2018, 01:31:53 pm
My 2 cents.

I thought Roof was great, having done 12 before (first in 2004)
I also did the bronze qualifier this year for fun, in the all comers class.

I personally don't like the new round the house format, but that's because i started at the back of my group and sucked dust and waited in bottlenecks.
I think if this continues in the same format we should be allowed to set a time trail lap and get seeded on that for the race.
As the time counts, and if you start at the back of the group you don't stand a chance

The route was great, not overly extreme but in your face.
My only small grip was that we need  a 15minute decontrolled stop once a day.

Having done a few overseas races Romaniacs,Sea2sky and ISDE i think its a great event.
The cheapest you will do by far, so just ride it and keep off the keyboards

Well done to all i give it a 9.5/10
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Pom17 on December 20, 2018, 02:12:29 pm
My 2 cents.

I thought Roof was great, having done 12 before (first in 2004)
I also did the bronze qualifier this year for fun, in the all comers class.

I personally don't like the new round the house format, but that's because i started at the back of my group and sucked dust and waited in bottlenecks.
I think if this continues in the same format we should be allowed to set a time trail lap and get seeded on that for the race.
As the time counts, and if you start at the back of the group you don't stand a chance

The route was great, not overly extreme but in your face.
My only small grip was that we need  a 15minute decontrolled stop once a day.

Having done a few overseas races Romaniacs,Sea2sky and ISDE i think its a great event.
The cheapest you will do by far, so just ride it and keep off the keyboards

Well done to all i give it a 9.5/10


I have the same issue with the dust at round the houses. You could only pass people in the rock garden and tyre pit.
But I thought I would not mention it because even if you lose maximum 10mins at round the houses, its nothing compared to the 2 days of racing ahead.
It provides for some decent spectating and still feel its safer than pinning a 2 stroke for long periods on tar. For rider and bike. So would rather eat the dust for 13mins in the new format. They could also make the loop shorter and do it in the parking lot, Romaniacs style, that way there is no dust and rather do more laps.

On the 15min decontrol.
Dont you think it will become another issue that the organisers will have to try and keep their hands on. People wont adhere to it and difficult to police out in the mountains at each and every DSP?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2018
Post by: Plothond on December 22, 2018, 11:00:40 am
Lots of spectator points - Lekker
Main pits - good food, top notch toilets. What a pleasure
DSP's - Really ??? - no toilets for the ladies from what I could see. Little bit tough considering the time some crews spent there.
PA system blowing up  :imaposer: OOPS ....  :ricky:  Matt Smith - where were you

Otherwise - from a spectator point of view: great weekend

Hahaa - BTW -those that slipped in without passports. Lesotho authorities not that stupid - Busted when they left. Wonder how long it was before they dared pick up the soap  :lol8:

I saw some okes messing around with rocks and stuff, it was in a simple section and did not affect the riders one little bit.

As for the routes and format this year, top notch.
The service points were better than they have been in the last few years and the riders really spoke well of the routes.
The spectator maps were as detailed as they needed to be to get to DSP and road crossings. I personally prefer this side of Lesotho to the Bushmans and north bits.

Complaints? trying to get food at the start/finish and DSP's was a joke. Typical Lesotho planning.