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Title: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: JanBrand on January 30, 2019, 01:42:56 pm
Hi guys

Do we have a date for the qualifier and the main event ?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on January 30, 2019, 06:38:28 pm
Prelim date for Bronze Qualifier is 11th May.

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: JanBrand on February 01, 2019, 10:10:27 am
ROA 2019 DATES
Title: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on July 01, 2019, 07:35:27 am
When do entries open and on which website?
My son is wanting to enter Silver class this year and cant see anything on Racecontrol at all
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BIGMAC on July 05, 2019, 07:33:21 am
Hopefully we will see you at Ramabantha
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: mox on July 05, 2019, 07:38:16 am
As far as I know qualifying was in May. I wall ask some chaps I know that will be going.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on July 05, 2019, 08:30:01 am
As far as I know qualifying was in May. I wall ask some chaps I know that will be going.
That only applies to the Bronze class
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BIGMAC on July 30, 2019, 10:39:00 am
Any updates for the roof this year - Start Area - Possible Route ???

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on July 30, 2019, 10:49:51 am
Heard nothing; as soon as I hear I will also post here
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on July 30, 2019, 10:58:10 am
Think it is safe to assume that it will again be at Thaba Bosiu Cultural Village.

I am guessing the following
Charan will want to up the entries to make it more lucrative.
That means making bronze easier and more accessible for the avg rider. The qualifier this year was also very easy.

But to rebuild the event status as the mother of hard enduro, he will have to up the gold class difficulty.

That leaves me with no info on silver, but assume it will be upped a little in difficulty


So just a post full of guessing  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Sithe on July 30, 2019, 11:20:12 am
Last year was possibly the worst route from a spectator point of view. The spectator map was a joke.

I will be hard pressed to justify the trip again this year if it is anything resembling last year.

NB:
Spectator perspective
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on July 30, 2019, 11:35:03 am
Last year was possibly the worst route from a spectator point of view. The spectator map was a joke.

I will be hard pressed to justify the trip again this year if it is anything resembling last year.

NB:
Spectator perspective


Charan Moore in control this year and will be an awesome event. Young enthusiastic and knows what is needed. Also uses pros like Altus De Wet. Will be worth it

Also a note on spectating. You need to go with people who knows what is going on, they take you to the perfect spots.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on October 29, 2019, 02:19:03 pm
Any WD entered for Roof 2019 in December?
Or who is going to be there and watch?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on October 30, 2019, 12:45:18 pm
Any WD entered for Roof 2019 in December?
Or who is going to be there and watch?

So??
NO WD going? :deal:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Welsh on October 30, 2019, 12:49:10 pm
Any WD entered for Roof 2019 in December?
Or who is going to be there and watch?

So??
NO WD going? :deal:
Shark is entered
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on October 30, 2019, 01:37:38 pm
Little Edgy` s entered n Silver :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BIGMAC on October 30, 2019, 03:14:06 pm
Good Luck See you there
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on October 30, 2019, 03:54:18 pm
Great stuff!
Just look out for one mean Toyota Land Cruiser with V8 Toy Reg :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 11, 2019, 09:51:22 am
One week before entries close and there are 370 entries already.

Graham Jarvis and Chris Birch have said they are coming but their names are not on the lists yet.

Who is riding and who will be out there watching?   
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 11, 2019, 10:11:11 am
My 19 year old will be there for his 2nd Roof and going for a Silver this time around :thumleft:
Anyone have any up to date news on whether the border posts will relax vehicle reg docs etc to enter/exit Lesotho
for Roof? 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 11, 2019, 10:49:34 am
I was there 2 weeks ago and was not asked for any docs
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 19, 2019, 01:05:55 pm
Who is staying where this year?   

Look out for 487 and give appropriate expletive "F you! you fing F"
 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 19, 2019, 01:12:27 pm
We at Ramabantla Lodge again and my son is 166 Silver :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Numsch on November 19, 2019, 01:14:54 pm
We at Grace Lodge and will be spectating all classes!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 21, 2019, 05:38:44 pm
Anybody have nice pics of Freefall pass, seems they heading up again and I can’t find mine to show Tristan?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 21, 2019, 05:42:52 pm
Freefall or Fox-Hole ?   
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 21, 2019, 06:23:07 pm
Freefall
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 21, 2019, 06:58:21 pm
No good pictures, the only issue really is this rock step out the forest section.
The rest is steep but doable.

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 21, 2019, 07:43:18 pm
Yip I’ve been up and down and that big rock at the forest is the challenge
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 21, 2019, 08:25:47 pm
So looking at the route for Silver/Gold. It seems they will go up the Sandstone White Rocks, down Fox Hole and up Free Fall again.
We get to ride along the top. 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: RSA_Maniac on November 21, 2019, 08:28:39 pm
https://mailchi.mp/371c2af5b620/route-maps-information (https://mailchi.mp/371c2af5b620/route-maps-information)

Some info for the enthusiasts like me.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on November 21, 2019, 08:59:38 pm
I’m not familiar with Foxhole...tell me more
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on November 21, 2019, 10:47:57 pm
I’m not familiar with Foxhole...tell me more
It is an interesting, very steep single track about 100meters long. Going down is fine but going up is challenging.

Freefall    red
Foxhole    blue
White rocks    purple
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: onderbroek on November 22, 2019, 11:31:56 am
Ek wik en weeg of ek gaan support.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on November 22, 2019, 12:25:21 pm
Any WD entered for Roof 2019 in December?
Or who is going to be there and watch?

So??
NO WD going? :deal:

I have entered Bronze as it is my first and hope for a finish.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Ebredenhann on November 22, 2019, 12:36:02 pm
Ek doen Silver... :-[ :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Ebredenhann on November 22, 2019, 12:39:33 pm
https://youtu.be/jGwBduOxPbo
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Ebredenhann on November 22, 2019, 12:45:33 pm
See attachments for Spectator Points, as well as routes for each day...kom kyk hoe ons suffer!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 22, 2019, 12:48:12 pm
Have you entered before Ebredenhann ?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Ebredenhann on November 22, 2019, 01:07:37 pm
I tried yes, 2013, the year where it almost washed away with downpour. We were timebarred early in the race before even working up a decent sweat (hypothetically speaking now :).  However my riding buddies each have a silver under the belt already from 2012.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 22, 2019, 01:13:07 pm
I'll look out for number 174.


Good luck !
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on November 22, 2019, 06:57:28 pm
Routes look awesome. I think it is going to be a great Roof with some new tracks and fresh org.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: Going to be there like a bear.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on November 25, 2019, 11:11:00 am
Any WD entered for Roof 2019 in December?
Or who is going to be there and watch?

So??
NO WD going? :deal:

Will also be racing silver  :'(  See you guys there.
Think it is going to be a very long day in the saddle for silver and gold.

Altus mentioned that he slept in the mountains while marking the silver route  :eek7:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on November 25, 2019, 11:14:50 am
Wish I knew the routes a bit better. Very much in the dark on what to expect from silver this year.
The distance for silver this year seems very long and there are talks that silver is more technical than previous years. Which means we are in for 10hrs on Friday minimum
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 25, 2019, 11:42:09 am
I can tell you about Saturday, the Silver is not much more than what Bronze are doing hence Charan saying its your easier day and Bronzes hardest.
Same route to Bushmans, means up the loooooong Welcome/Belekomo pass. 
From Bushmans to Roma it looks like Bonze go around via Pressure Cooker and you will probably do "Boilers" or "Middle Pass" . (If I read that map correctly)
And then this Foxhole/Freefall opfok.

I can see how this is going to be a long ride and keeping moving is going to be the key to klapping the km.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on November 25, 2019, 12:35:09 pm
Sorry not Middle Pass, I mean "Daltons Drop"
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Striggs on November 26, 2019, 05:19:53 am
Routes look awesome. I think it is going to be a great Roof with some new tracks and fresh org.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: Going to be there like a bear.

Is Josh riding again?

We thinking about riding up from slumtown, any suggestions for accommodation? 3 of us...
Left it a bit late..  :bueller:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on November 26, 2019, 05:44:48 am
Routes look awesome. I think it is going to be a great Roof with some new tracks and fresh org.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: Going to be there like a bear.

Is Josh riding again?

We thinking about riding up from slumtown, any suggestions for accommodation? 3 of us...
Left it a bit late..  :bueller:

Josh is not riding this year. We will be there though as he is doing media video coverage for the new NESS enduro series and does social media management for a few pro riders. We will be there with bikes and based out of Maseru as closer to to Thaba Tseka. Accomodation always at a primium and even more so this year - there is a proper tented camp at the Thaba Tseka Lodge and would also be at Ramabanta. Looking forward to the mountains.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on November 26, 2019, 12:48:01 pm
Routes look awesome. I think it is going to be a great Roof with some new tracks and fresh org.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: Going to be there like a bear.
any suggestions for accommodation? 3 of us...
Left it a bit late..  :bueller:
Try Molimo Nutsi,  it is about 3km east of Bushmens
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on November 26, 2019, 12:50:29 pm
I tried yes, 2013, the year where it almost washed away with downpour. We were timebarred early in the race before even working up a decent sweat (hypothetically speaking now :).  However my riding buddies each have a silver under the belt already from 2012.
That was an epic race, I finished 14th in Bronze on the Friday (72 started and only 16 finished)
The Saturday I did not race, can still kick myself.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on November 26, 2019, 04:27:49 pm
Routes look awesome. I think it is going to be a great Roof with some new tracks and fresh org.  :ricky: :ricky: :ricky: Going to be there like a bear.
any suggestions for accommodation? 3 of us...
Left it a bit late..  :bueller:
Try Molimo Nutsi,  it is about 3km east of Bushmens

Molimo Nthuse Lodge?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on November 26, 2019, 04:37:34 pm
Molimo Nthuse Lodge?
Yip
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Striggs on November 26, 2019, 09:45:55 pm
Thanks guys, hopefully see you all in the mountains...
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Cracker on November 28, 2019, 04:36:09 pm
Thanks guys, hopefully see you all in the mountains...

Following on from Striggs, yous think just pitching up with a tent should be okay, in the general vicinity?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on November 28, 2019, 10:11:18 pm
Thanks guys, hopefully see you all in the mountains...

Following on from Striggs, yous think just pitching up with a tent should be okay, in the general vicinity?

Not really - proper camping sites are few and far between. Ramabanta has good camping and there should be at Roma, also there was going to be a larney tented villiage at Thaba Bosui.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Cracker on November 29, 2019, 08:17:31 am
Thanks Dom :thumleft:

Not really a ROA fan. Unless I'm racing myself, I don't have much interest in watching others. But I love riding Lesotho ............... they've got the best tar roads in Africa  :biggrin:

Enjoy
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on December 01, 2019, 05:45:22 pm
I see we have two RoA threads  ::)
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on December 01, 2019, 05:46:26 pm
Looks like could be a wet Roof ...
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 02, 2019, 04:25:33 pm
I see we have two RoA threads  ::)

Fixed. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on December 03, 2019, 05:52:36 am
Heading down tomorrow, looks like rain on Friday.
The GPS routes were released yesterday and some light rain does make it tricky but not totally impossible.


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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on December 03, 2019, 05:59:10 am
Rain will make the Bronze Saturday better, but this makes the Silver and Gold on Friday seem really crazy.



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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on December 03, 2019, 08:36:02 am
The Roof routes are very interesting this year, one can clearly see that the organizers has spend a lot of time on the routes.
There are a lot of brand new sections in new areas and a number of oldies.
Bronze for Friday are gonna be lekker but Saturday are gonna be a tough day to remember.
Silver and especially Gold are gonna work extra hard this year.

Strongs to everybody that is gonna ride. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on December 03, 2019, 09:13:47 am
Friday Bronze does look fast and furious and will be interesting in the rain.  Getting to the DSP before 12:30 means you need to push on and cover lots of ground to be sure of making it.

Saturday is the Qualifier in reverse with a few changes, added a climb near the start, added Belekomo and down Boilers.
I'm thinking if I can get to the DSP on the Saturday before the time bar at 14:30 then I'll be fine on the way home. Have ridden all that before.

Super excited now
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: gser on December 03, 2019, 05:12:37 pm
Sub  . . .
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Sithe on December 04, 2019, 10:34:55 am
Following on from Striggs, yous think just pitching up with a tent should be okay, in the general vicinity?

Last year there were lots of people camping at the start / finish area. We will try and do that ourselves this year. If not possible then we are sleeping in the car

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Sithe on December 04, 2019, 10:37:42 am
The Roof routes are very interesting this year, one can clearly see that the organizers has spend a lot of time on the routes.
There are a lot of brand new sections in new areas and a number of oldies.
Bronze for Friday are gonna be lekker but Saturday are gonna be a tough day to remember.
Silver and especially Gold are gonna work extra hard this year.

Strongs to everybody that is gonna ride. :thumleft:

Hey @Losper, you talk of bronze silver and gold and then post green blue and red  :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Losper on December 04, 2019, 10:41:36 am
Hey @Losper, you talk of bronze silver and gold and then post green blue and red  :peepwall: :pot:
Yeah, I like to confuse people :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Kortbroek on December 07, 2019, 08:30:46 am
There is actually decent coverage of the event on facebook with updates and videos throughout the day.

https://www.facebook.com/roofofafricalive
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Welsh on December 07, 2019, 08:34:32 am
Shark is about 10km out, you can track from the Roof web site.  8) corrected, I misunderstood the tracking.  :peepwall:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Noneking on December 07, 2019, 09:02:35 am
Even Chris Birch finding the going a bit tough.......



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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Brink on December 07, 2019, 12:10:13 pm
Wade Young just won his 5th ROA :ricky:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: RallyMan on December 07, 2019, 12:11:05 pm
How difficult is Bronze ?

Im not deep into Hard Enduro , Was thinking to do Retro Roof and then Bronze roof next year
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: armpump on December 07, 2019, 07:31:40 pm
Friday Bronze does look fast and furious and will be interesting in the rain.  Getting to the DSP before 12:30 means you need to push on and cover lots of ground to be sure of making it.

Saturday is the Qualifier in reverse with a few changes, added a climb near the start, added Belekomo and down Boilers.
I'm thinking if I can get to the DSP on the Saturday before the time bar at 14:30 then I'll be fine on the way home. Have ridden all that before.

Super excited now

Big up for making it !
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Welsh on December 07, 2019, 07:50:53 pm
We were watching, but without published cut off times it was stressfull. :peepwall:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: gser on December 08, 2019, 11:25:06 am
Retro Roof ...it will be interesting
Would like to see the rules and technical requirements
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 08, 2019, 12:44:03 pm
I see Yamaha has beaten all the KTM's........ :ricky: :ricky:

 :ricky: :ricky:

Congrats Wade Young, what a rider!! And good for Sherco too.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Numsch on December 09, 2019, 12:59:27 pm
Friday Bronze does look fast and furious and will be interesting in the rain.  Getting to the DSP before 12:30 means you need to push on and cover lots of ground to be sure of making it.

Saturday is the Qualifier in reverse with a few changes, added a climb near the start, added Belekomo and down Boilers.
I'm thinking if I can get to the DSP on the Saturday before the time bar at 14:30 then I'll be fine on the way home. Have ridden all that before.

Super excited now

Big up for making it !

+1, Ron had long days in the saddle but pulled through and well done on finishing!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: sidetrack on December 09, 2019, 01:04:31 pm
Was the 3rd place Yammie a 4 stroke ?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Welsh on December 09, 2019, 01:15:06 pm
Friday Bronze does look fast and furious and will be interesting in the rain.  Getting to the DSP before 12:30 means you need to push on and cover lots of ground to be sure of making it.

Saturday is the Qualifier in reverse with a few changes, added a climb near the start, added Belekomo and down Boilers.
I'm thinking if I can get to the DSP on the Saturday before the time bar at 14:30 then I'll be fine on the way home. Have ridden all that before.

Super excited now

Big up for making it !

+1, Ron had long days in the saddle but pulled through and well done on finishing!

The 14:30 DSP cut off he mentioned, he ran out of fuel 100m before DSP at 14:00 but got in and out before cut off.  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on December 09, 2019, 04:04:53 pm
I was very chuffed with the youngster, overall 28th in Silver :thumleft:
We had an awesome week in the mountains once again 
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on December 09, 2019, 04:08:16 pm
A few more
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: 2StrokeDan on December 09, 2019, 06:02:36 pm
Nice one Edgy, and junior too! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 09, 2019, 09:01:41 pm
Great pics guys, thanks :hello2:

Well done to you & your lightie, edgy! He is riding like a pro in those photees. :thumleft:

Now where are the stories of the mayhem? Would be great to hear what happened to Birchy boy for example ;D
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on December 09, 2019, 09:11:35 pm
Great pics guys, thanks :hello2:

Well done to you & your lightie, edgy! He is riding like a pro in those photees. :thumleft:

Now where are the stories of the mayhem? Would be great to hear what happened to Birchy boy for example ;D

Birchy rode really well for a guy who is not in competative enduro anymore and really only rides adventure bikes these days. Just a  bit of a celeb appearance really but can still hold his own some.

The new wind blowing through the Roof with Charon Moore and Live Lesotho running the event now bodes well for the future of the event and hopefully can attract the top extreme enduro guys back again. They have definately reset the bar. Red Bull are back aboard as well.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 10, 2019, 12:51:41 pm
I  finished Bronze in 149th position on my first try at the Roof. Bliksem but it was a real challenge but was the scenery and routes simply outstanding. I simply love Lesotho. My bene en my gat is nou nog seer maar was dit absoluut die moeite werd. The whole event was well organised. Luckily the rain stayed away as it would have been a balls up if it was wet!
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 10, 2019, 12:52:50 pm
Nog `n pic
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: OFFROAD FANATICS on December 10, 2019, 12:54:38 pm
En nog een
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Half - Bac on December 10, 2019, 01:13:07 pm
Was the 3rd place Yammie a 4 stroke ?

No, Kyle Flanagan (3rd Gold) Lloyd Kirk (retired ill) and Bruce May (3rd Silver) all rode YZ 250 X's
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: roxenz on December 10, 2019, 01:23:35 pm
Congrats and well done ORF! I think you guys who tackle these extreme "routes" are not lekker in the kop, but still am impressed by your particular form of derangement!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 10, 2019, 03:33:33 pm
En nog een

Well done!! :hello2:

What was the hardest bit for you and why?
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on December 10, 2019, 06:55:51 pm
I  finished Bronze in 149th position on my first try at the Roof. Bliksem but it was a real challenge but was the scenery and routes simply outstanding. I simply love Lesotho. My bene en my gat is nou nog seer maar was dit absoluut die moeite werd. The whole event was well organised. Luckily the rain stayed away as it would have been a balls up if it was wet!
Well done!
We were lucky the weather played along so nicely.  I ended up helping a friend on Friday but unfortunately he had the same issue halfway up Belekomo and had to retire.
I enjoyed the ride and I'm happy to have finished.

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Sheepman on December 10, 2019, 07:45:44 pm
Well done to Shark, DBF ( not DNF ! ) and Edgy Jnr  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on December 11, 2019, 01:33:03 pm
How difficult is Bronze ?

Im not deep into Hard Enduro , Was thinking to do Retro Roof and then Bronze roof next year

First you need to be able to ride reasonably well, be able to ride Lesotho type obstacles, rocks, off camber step ups, downhills that make your sphincter cringe. etc.
Go ride there a few times in the year and do some old routes.
Then be ride fit so that you can ride this for 3 days, and you will be fine.   

Charans description of Bronze was spot on, the average rider who has done his training and spent the hours working at it should be able to finish Bronze.
The problem is who's average.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 18, 2019, 01:34:45 pm
Junior (My son) Bronze Roof report. :deal:

When I got back to SA, I was all focused to get packed and ready to hit the road on the Monday 2nd to Lesotho.
I had quite a few things to do, trailer license disc renewal and upgrade the Cruisers breaks to my newly purchased “power brake” pads and discs.

We hit the road on Monday morning at about 5am in convoy of another Droomers Yamaha teammate. The road up was quiet, but the wind was pumping! We arrived in Bloem at about 3.30 in the afternoon.
Everyone relaxed by the pool with a few cold ones and kids played in the pool.

Dinner time we went to the local steak house, Long Horn…..food was great! Each one packed a serious steak away. :biggrin:
Next morning, we took it easy, late breakfast and went to the shops before we left for Maseru. Boarder control was a breeze, SA and Lesotho side.

Wednesday morning, we took the bike for documentation control and scrutinizing. Evening was riders briefing and dropping off of fuel drums, for the unassisted fuel stops.

Thursday morning was the usual round the house’s entertainment.  :ricky: We fitted Juniors Yami with a spare rim with a hard tire and moose, which he managed to finish it. He enjoyed it and managed to stay in one piece and on the bike. The bike also handled the abuse.
When finished, we headed out to the main starting point for time trials.
End of the day, he managed to finish 35, after starting off last row in the first group.

Friday we all were lucky, overcast but no rain.
The day was long, DSP and viewpoints where difficult. I managed to get to the Refuel point just in-time but did not give Junior a new pair of goggles. One of the pit crew used a cloth with something on the spoilt the inside and Junior could not use them for the rest of the second half of the race. He finished 32 at the end of the day. (I took the blame for that…)

Saturday, Junior was ready, he said that today is his day. There is a 16km straight up mountain section before the main DSP. It’s the make or break section.
I did not stay for the start, as I opted to go to one of the viewpoints and then straight to the refueling DSP.
When the Bronze riders started coming past, I was keeping count. Well that did not help. As within those 5km from start, Junior made up 10 places. So, I missed taking pictures as he surprised me when he raced by.

We left for the refueling DSP. This was a mission on its own!
Finally arrived there and had all the sweets, energy drinks and bars ready, AND the spare set of goggles.
We could not track the riders as the cellphone reception was shitty and data limited. My daughter tracked Junior and kept me updated via sms. Which was not good news at that point in time, she said that the team (three riders) are all bunched together 16km from DSP. For us it meant that everyone was stuck in the bottleneck. The updates showed very little movement. After about an hour, still not much of an update, Junior came racing into the pits, without a shirt, just body armor on. Face red and eyes like fire balls.
He said that all the Yami’s are having a problem with airlocks. He took his breather pipe off the filler cap and was working. When he got to his teammate, he opened up his fuel tank, but got spayed with fuel in the face and all over his neck. He used his shirt and water to wash it off.
This was an issue with a non-return valve in the breather pipe, which blocked up on high altitude. With his mechanical background he managed to assist himself and fellow teammates.

With this sportsmanship and care for fellow teammates will get him quite far in life. Maybe not being first on the podium, but first in my books.

We changed hydro bladder, new shirt, bike fueled and off he left.

The last section of the day, he pinned it all the way! :pot:
He managed to finish the day in 6th.
 :thumleft: :thumleft:13th Overall for the Roof of Africa 2019 Bronze class. :thumleft: :thumleft:

Next year it will be silver.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 18, 2019, 01:50:18 pm
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Great result. My son Josh (who has done three Roofs and was there doing media this year) took this photo BTW  :thumleft: Let me know if you want a hi res version.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
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Great result. My son Josh (who has done three Roofs and was there doing media this year) took this photo BTW  :thumleft: Let me know if you want a hi res version.

YES PLZ! Would be great.
A lot of people have spoken and complemented on this picture. Someone sent it to me, taken off FB somewhere.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on December 18, 2019, 09:50:45 pm
Yami, what mods does his 250x have? Seems like there were quite a few Yamahas in the mix this year.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on December 19, 2019, 06:40:34 am
Yami, what mods does his 250x have? Seems like there were quite a few Yamahas in the mix this year.

Not sure on this bike but the guys do a weighted fly-wheel, good engine, linkage and brake protection, some do a WR gearbox mod but at least sprocket selection, reinforce rear chain guard, A Lectron carb is a cherry on top.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Welsh on December 19, 2019, 06:50:19 am
I heard there is TV coverage of the event this weekend? 8)
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 19, 2019, 07:34:28 am
Yami, what mods does his 250x have? Seems like there were quite a few Yamahas in the mix this year.

Swing-arm reinforced
Gearbox mod. Think longer second gear and "5th" not sure.
Weighted flywheel
Removed the shim on the power-valve spring, this makes the X much smoother with throttle response.
Lectron carb is a must for the roof.

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 19, 2019, 07:38:20 am
I heard there is TV coverage of the event this weekend? 8)

On Ignition
SAT 6am and 4pm
SUN 4am and12pm
MON.1am
TUES 7pm
WED 11pm
THURS 3am
FRI 7am
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on December 19, 2019, 09:42:22 am
Swing-arm reinforced
Gearbox mod. Think longer second gear and "5th" not sure.
Weighted flywheel
Removed the shim on the power-valve spring, this makes the X much smoother with throttle response.
Lectron carb is a must for the roof.

Very interesting, thank you!

What is done to the swing arm?

Any why a Yamaha in the first place? I'm also a Jap bike fan, but it's hard to justify given the Katooms are more "roof ready" out of the box.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Sheepman on December 19, 2019, 10:01:04 am
Junior (My son) Bronze Roof report. :deal:

When I got back to SA, I was all focused to get packed and ready to hit the road on the Monday 2nd to Lesotho.
I had quite a few things to do, trailer license disc renewal and upgrade the Cruisers breaks to my newly purchased “power brake” pads and discs.

We hit the road on Monday morning at about 5am in convoy of another Droomers Yamaha teammate. The road up was quiet, but the wind was pumping! We arrived in Bloem at about 3.30 in the afternoon.
Everyone relaxed by the pool with a few cold ones and kids played in the pool.

Dinner time we went to the local steak house, Long Horn…..food was great! Each one packed a serious steak away. :biggrin:
Next morning, we took it easy, late breakfast and went to the shops before we left for Maseru. Boarder control was a breeze, SA and Lesotho side.

Wednesday morning, we took the bike for documentation control and scrutinizing. Evening was riders briefing and dropping off of fuel drums, for the unassisted fuel stops.

Thursday morning was the usual round the house’s entertainment.  :ricky: We fitted Juniors Yami with a spare rim with a hard tire and moose, which he managed to finish it. He enjoyed it and managed to stay in one piece and on the bike. The bike also handled the abuse.
When finished, we headed out to the main starting point for time trials.
End of the day, he managed to finish 35, after starting off last row in the first group.

Friday we all were lucky, overcast but no rain.
The day was long, DSP and viewpoints where difficult. I managed to get to the Refuel point just in-time but did not give Junior a new pair of goggles. One of the pit crew used a cloth with something on the spoilt the inside and Junior could not use them for the rest of the second half of the race. He finished 32 at the end of the day. (I took the blame for that…)

Saturday, Junior was ready, he said that today is his day. There is a 16km straight up mountain section before the main DSP. It’s the make or break section.
I did not stay for the start, as I opted to go to one of the viewpoints and then straight to the refueling DSP.
When the Bronze riders started coming past, I was keeping count. Well that did not help. As within those 5km from start, Junior made up 10 places. So, I missed taking pictures as he surprised me when he raced by.

We left for the refueling DSP. This was a mission on its own!
Finally arrived there and had all the sweets, energy drinks and bars ready, AND the spare set of goggles.
We could not track the riders as the cellphone reception was shitty and data limited. My daughter tracked Junior and kept me updated via sms. Which was not good news at that point in time, she said that the team (three riders) are all bunched together 16km from DSP. For us it meant that everyone was stuck in the bottleneck. The updates showed very little movement. After about an hour, still not much of an update, Junior came racing into the pits, without a shirt, just body armor on. Face red and eyes like fire balls.
He said that all the Yami’s are having a problem with airlocks. He took his breather pipe off the filler cap and was working. When he got to his teammate, he opened up his fuel tank, but got spayed with fuel in the face and all over his neck. He used his shirt and water to wash it off.
This was an issue with a non-return valve in the breather pipe, which blocked up on high altitude. With his mechanical background he managed to assist himself and fellow teammates.

With this sportsmanship and care for fellow teammates will get him quite far in life. Maybe not being first on the podium, but first in my books.

We changed hydro bladder, new shirt, bike fueled and off he left.

The last section of the day, he pinned it all the way! :pot:
He managed to finish the day in 6th.
 :thumleft: :thumleft:13th Overall for the Roof of Africa 2019 Bronze class. :thumleft: :thumleft:

Next year it will be silver.

Congrats with your son's excellent Roof 👍
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on December 19, 2019, 10:03:31 am
Swing-arm reinforced
Gearbox mod. Think longer second gear and "5th" not sure.
Weighted flywheel
Removed the shim on the power-valve spring, this makes the X much smoother with throttle response.
Lectron carb is a must for the roof.

Very interesting, thank you!

What is done to the swing arm?

Any why a Yamaha in the first place? I'm also a Jap bike fan, but it's hard to justify given the Katooms are more "roof ready" out of the box.

They weld an reinforcement plate at the bottom of the swing arm....why? Cant tell you :imaposer:

My son started on a KTM 200. Unfortunately the support for the product in Cape Town was zero :deal:
I have always been a Yami owner and supporter :pot: The dogs are going to give quite a few wise cracks on this :spitcoffee:

I bought my son a 250X and 250FX and he has been racing off road and enduro for the past two years and with the great Droomers support on the races, I cant fault them or the product.
Yamaha has alway had a good support team on the roof.

As for your statement that KTM are "roof ready" :eek7: No sir! Not one KTM out the box will have their shocks ready for the roof. Owners spend thousands to get them dialled in.
As for the Yami, a few minor clicks on the shocks, and off you go.
The only thing which KTM does have, is the happy button. But once you know the bike......you dont need a happy button and the bike is lighter without a starter and battery.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: LoopSoosStroop on December 19, 2019, 11:00:56 am
Lekker man, thanks for the answers Yami, think Yamaha can still do very well if they make the X with happy button and the right gearing, off the floor.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: BiG DoM on December 19, 2019, 11:26:00 am
The Yammy is also way cheaper, no new tech to go wrong (yes TPI, sensors etc), cheaper to mantain, and bullet proof.

The swingarm thing is not to strengthen the swing arm - it is merely welding to reinforce the brackets that the lower chain guide attaches to so if it get a big hit it will survive. Preventative mod. 

My son who has done Bronze, Silver and Gold on KTM's has just sold his and bought the Yammy 250X.
(for noting Kyle Flanagan won the National Enduro series this year on one).

And yes it is true KTM's are no longer race ready.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: exkdx on January 08, 2020, 09:49:07 pm
Just released on youtube :biggrin:
60min video of 2019 Roof
Fantastic footage!!

Chris Birch quote - "I've ridden more than 50 countries around the world and there is no other place like Lesotho"

Maybe someone can embed the video but here's the link

https://youtu.be/EpXz6sws-cc
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: shark_za on January 09, 2020, 04:09:27 pm
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 10, 2020, 06:46:18 pm
Thanks Shark, I thoroughly enjoyed that
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 10:23:28 am
I was very chuffed with the youngster, overall 28th in Silver :thumleft:
We had an awesome week in the mountains once again

@edgy
What are the odds. I spent a lot of time riding with your son on the Friday. Very nice guy, but that poor 125 did not do him any favours in some of the sections.
He still rode it like a machine and I actually took the time to compliment him on it.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 10:27:27 am
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@Yami Super 10
What a small world. Your son joined me on a training ride one weekend. So actually know him.
Glad he did so well. Awesome job
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:23:15 pm
Had a good race this year with only some minor issues.
Did silver, my 2nd roof, last year bronze.
Still using my trusty 2017 KTM 300 with 270hrs on :lol8:

Day 1 (Time trial and round the houses)
Round the houses did not count towards the overall time, but you had to compete otherwise you will be penalised.
I rode around on the tar, saving tyres and engine, so slowly that marshals pulled me over and said the race was done with me still having a lap to go

Time trial was less than an hour of racing, very fast with no real technical riding. Still a lot of fun
It went well until I had a huge crash into a donga. Fell more than 3m down, luckily into a mud pit.
Mud was so deep I had to ask friends to help me pull the bike out. Think this saved me from serious injury cause I was lights out for a few moments in that mud.
It also stank like human shit  :eek7: Had to drive home on the back cause I stank so much.

Bronze went out on the Time Trial before silver, so waited around for them to clear track.
When we eventually went it turned out that it was still not enough time. Got stuck in 3 bottlenecks, tried to push past but some okes got seriously upset. So just waited it out when we had no other line

Ended up 29th in TT which was not a great start to the weekend, but OK considering the fall and bottlenecks


Day 2: Friday
Long day for silver. 160kms in total.
A friend and I stuck together. The aim was to conserve energy since I have never done 160kms in Lesotho.
The friend had a cold and mid way through the day started to struggle with his breathing. I tried to keep him positive and keep the momentum going, but he eventually sat down and refused to continue riding with me.
He felt that he was holding me back and forced me to push on by myself. Felt really kak leaving him there. But in the end it gave him some time to recover and manage his own pace better.

Riding was actually not too technical, just long and exhausting.
Worst feeling looking down at the GPS and it says 40kms to go. And when you look down again in what feels like an hour, it says 38kms to go.

Came in 31st spot for the day. I felt bad about leaving the friend behind, he eventually made it, but also felt like I had so much left in the tank after the Friday.
Did not push hard enough and was riding way to conservatively.

Day 3: Saturday
Told the friend and family from the start that this would be the day that I leave nothing in the tank.
100% race mode from the start.
The day was a bit shorter in distance but more technical. I preferred this type of riding and had a blast.
Lost the rear brake just after leaving the assisted refuel. Broke the lever clean off when it got snagged on a rock on one of the faster sections.

Downhills became a major issue. Killed the engine to brake with the engine, but it would obviously run start on the downhills.
I resorted to walking the downhills but on those steep inclines, a small bump when jumping off a drop would start the bike and down we would both go.

Eventually stopped by a few locals who got their hands on a piece of pipe and I could bend what was left of the lever open enough to just snag it with the side of my boot.

Came in 14th for the day, resulting in a 21 overall. 1 Spot ahead of @edgy junior


Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:27:26 pm
Will post a few pics soon.
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Yami Super 10 on January 13, 2020, 12:34:43 pm
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@Yami Super 10
What a small world. Your son joined me on a training ride one weekend. So actually know him.
Glad he did so well. Awesome job

Thanks  :thumleft:
Ya we were all quite surprised on the end results.
He is wanting to do Silver this year, but was told by Graham Hedcock, he must do Gold. So the bugger is not knowing what to do.
Graham has been with him from Junior class and said his riding skill has amazed him, on how quick he has picked up the pace.

But will see what the year hold in for Junior.

With Tankwa Rally Cross, he want to start racing Xcounrty and road map. So will see what happens to dads bank balance with a 450 and its kit. :peepwall:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:35:34 pm
1. Work on my own bikes, so had so much prep work to do
2. Just some of the packing
3. Had a bunch of friends there to spectate all with bikes, so tried not to pack too much shit, knew they would sort me out if I needed anything
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:38:34 pm
1. Wifes first time joining the roof, notice the dogs in the back, dropped them at parents farm on the way
2. First time experiencing the border like this. Packed to the brim with food and bike kak.
3. Taking it real easy for round the houses
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:40:53 pm
1. Time trial
2. Friday, same crossing
3. Friday, same spot
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:42:42 pm
Same spot I think, some sequence pics
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:44:07 pm
Some more randoms
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:46:43 pm
Last pic is a sad one. Post race depression
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 13, 2020, 12:56:53 pm



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@Yami Super 10
What a small world. Your son joined me on a training ride one weekend. So actually know him.
Glad he did so well. Awesome job

Thanks  :thumleft:
Ya we were all quite surprised on the end results.
He is wanting to do Silver this year, but was told by Graham Hedcock, he must do Gold. So the bugger is not knowing what to do.
Graham has been with him from Junior class and said his riding skill has amazed him, on how quick he has picked up the pace.

But will see what the year hold in for Junior.

With Tankwa Rally Cross, he want to start racing Xcounrty and road map. So will see what happens to dads bank balance with a 450 and its kit. :peepwall:

Also wanted to do gold this coming roof, but it all depends on resources and how much time you have to train.
I get to ride on avg about 6 times a month. That just wont cut it. And that was while training for roof. Now its down to once a month again.
So difficult balancing family time and work, the bike time gets the back seat.

So I would say, if he can manage to find the time to train on the bike for 3 times a week with decent riders, then he will be fine.
I know some say you dont need to ride that much, but the pros have the skill mastered, they can work on fitness.
We must still spend time in the saddle to learn how to ride efficient.

Also note, there was a big step up from bronze to silver this year. 2018 and 2016 the gap was not that huge.
Let him progress into things naturally. He will then also feel prepared for gold.
Having the right mindset and confidence makes all the difference

Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Clockwork Orange on January 13, 2020, 05:38:06 pm
Thanks for the write up Pom. Great pics too :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: edgy on January 14, 2020, 11:14:00 am
I was very chuffed with the youngster, overall 28th in Silver :thumleft:
We had an awesome week in the mountains once again

@edgy
What are the odds. I spent a lot of time riding with your son on the Friday. Very nice guy, but that poor 125 did not do him any favours in some of the sections.
He still rode it like a machine and I actually took the time to compliment him on it.
Thx Pom17, wish I had known and could`ve had a chat.....very well done btw :thumleft:
Title: Re: Roof of Africa 2019
Post by: Pom17 on January 14, 2020, 12:20:14 pm
I was very chuffed with the youngster, overall 28th in Silver :thumleft:
We had an awesome week in the mountains once again

@edgy
What are the odds. I spent a lot of time riding with your son on the Friday. Very nice guy, but that poor 125 did not do him any favours in some of the sections.
He still rode it like a machine and I actually took the time to compliment him on it.
Thx Pom17, wish I had known and could`ve had a chat.....very well done btw :thumleft:

Agree, would have been nice to have a chat and drink a few beers :thumleft:
Who knows, maybe we are both there again at the end of this year  :biggrin: