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Title: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 15, 2019, 12:13:31 pm
I love sidecars (obviously… I started this board  :biggrin: ) And one of the reasons I bought the 1150 adv is to put a sidecar on it. For now Wify won't let me, and also its bleddie complicated fitting the subframe to these modern frameless bikes as a first try DIY eperient. I can get Humfree to do it, and though I accept his cost is reasonable, its inhibitive for now.

So, I'm first going to give it a go with something simpler  on another bike, and thinking of hacking the W650, but that would be sinful. I've already done a lot of research.

I'm not rushing (must first finish the trailer) just getting my ducks in a row.

First the bike. Anyone out there with a nice BMW R100 to swap for a W650 ?

And then I need a suitable tub, so if you have one lying around let me know.



1. Progressive Automations Industrial Linear Actuator Stroke Size 4", Force 2000 lbs, Speed 0.33"/sec - 12 VDC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P58WK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybS8Cb3X35SN7

2. Drone Dauntless https://advrider.com/f/threads/wumpa-my-dmc-dauntless-r1150gs-adventure-rig.681793/
Title: Re: Sidear Bike ?
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on May 15, 2019, 12:19:46 pm
JJR bought a secondhand sidecar on Gumtree and did the fitting onto his 1150 GSA himself.
Niemand het nog in die pad geval so dit was n sukses al lyk sy welding soos voëltjiekak. Vra hom om fodies te post :peepwall: ;)

Ek begin al self my 1200 se onderstel beloer hoe en waar ek wat kan aanlap.
Title: Re: Sidear Bike ?
Post by: Gérrard on May 15, 2019, 12:28:55 pm
JJR bought a secondhand sidecar on Gumtree and did the fitting onto his 1150 GSA himself.
Niemand het nog in die pad geval so dit was n sukses al lyk sy welding soos voëltjiekak. Vra hom om fodies te post :peepwall: ;)

Ek begin al self my 1200 se onderstel beloer hoe en waar ek wat kan aanlap.

Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd en met die sidecar reg gebou kan jy harder jaag as met jou bike... en veiliger.

Nee ek het ook al die 1150 hard bekyk en weet hoe omm dit te doen Baie threads op ADV rider gelees en u-tube gekyk. Ek voel net voor ek gaan DIY wil ek eers et iets ligter eksperimenteer om die geometries en goed reg te kry en as Vroutjie sę GO ! is ek reg.
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: Gérrard on May 15, 2019, 12:31:46 pm
Die idee is die main frame wat ek vir die oefen rig gaan bou, gaan so gedoen word dat hy met modifikasie oorgeplaas kan word op die 1150
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on May 15, 2019, 06:01:14 pm
Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd

Luitenant  ek lees dit as n uitkak en aanvaar dit so, want ek moes al lankal planmaak en die enigste rede is dan voel ek ek het geloose, want ek kan nie meer n normale bike ry. Dis n kop ding. :deal:
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: Gérrard on May 15, 2019, 06:04:14 pm
Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd

Luitenant  ek lees dit as n uitkak en aanvaar dit so, want ek moes al lankal planmaak en die enigste rede is dan voel ek ek het geloose, want ek kan nie meer n normale bike ry. Dis n kop ding. :deal:

Dit is so, maar wat van die lekker van 'n nuwe ondervinding, terwyl jy steeds die blommetjies kan ruik.
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: ajax on May 15, 2019, 06:21:23 pm
Fanie Geyer {hy ook n wilddog} doen die ombouings al n geruime tyd....Sy nr: 0836542948
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: Gérrard on May 15, 2019, 07:05:19 pm
Fanie Geyer {hy ook n wilddog} doen die ombouings al n geruime tyd....Sy nr: 0836542948

Van waar is hy ?
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 09:57:13 am
Ag WTF ? The 1150 was bought as the sidecar bike, so I'm just going to do it. Done a lot of research and had my people talk to other people. Its not so complicated and Humfree has offered his guidance. Much appreciated. (also have Woody in my ear all the time. he is mos now an expert  :lol8: ) The sidecar community is an amazing bunch with help generously offered.

So I reckon, get the wheel, swingarm and suspension sorted. Get the dimensions for the tub and build the frame around it. I'm not re-inventing the wheel and using the Ural frame concept. It works. The subframe for the 1150 is after all not that complicated. It basically replaces the belly pan with some extra strengthening joints.

And google is you best friend.  :biggrin:

First up then I'm using an 1150 rear wheel that I sourced from Backgatjaco, who has been very helpful and kind on the price.( For now this is very much a scratch, tight budget project)

Let the rest of the experts chime in. I intend to step by step document the build.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 10:09:23 am
I is never an EXPERT.. I is just PRACTICAL :laughing4:
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on May 23, 2019, 10:33:11 am
I is never an EXPERT.. I is just PRACTICAL :laughing4:

 :imaposer:

A Practical Expert!!

 :thumleft:

I am dead keen on adding a tub to the left of my 1200GSA - but like Gerrard, wifey is not in favour......
Title: Re: Sidecar Bike ?
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 10:37:13 am
Who is riding the bike... you or wify ?  Easy decision.  If she does not want to ride in the sidecar, it is ALL MINE  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 11:52:08 am
She'll come around. At least she does not freak out anymore when I mention the word sidecar. I've been on the project actively for about two weeks now and she just listens.  :3some:   When its there she'll get in, or like Woody says, I'll have lots of space to pack my shit for trips.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 11:58:06 am
This is the frame I'm copying and following this build on ADVrider  https://advrider.com/f/threads/the-albatross-1150gs-sidecar-build.1318549/

I've also downloaded a lot of info on specs for sidecar setup. And then I hope to get Humfree down for a looksee, before it all goes together (or, he has invited me to come visit his workshop to see how it goes together)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 12:19:19 pm
Het jy al ronde pyp MOOI gesweis.....

Ek was al daar en het die eerste probeerslag ge-scrap.
baie makliker om sq tubing aan mekaar te kry met mooi welds. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 12:22:18 pm
Het jy al ronde pyp MOOI gesweis.....

Ek was al daar en het die eerste probeerslag ge-scrap.
baie makliker om sq tubing aan mekaar te kry met mooi welds. :laughing4:

Ek gaan net tack my tjom Rudy gaan dit TIG weld.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 12:23:17 pm
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 12:25:21 pm
Mooi  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 12:27:28 pm
Mooi  :thumleft:

En as ek nie kan nie, is die hele idee om te leer. Vra my weer as ek klaar is  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Maverick on May 23, 2019, 12:35:21 pm
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:

Ek ook maar net die bokant ek sukkel met die onderkant  :biggrin:

Gerrard ek het nog nooit een gebou nie maar het daai Chang Jiang gehad vir so paar jaar. Dit is lekker pret MAAR maak net seker jy hou daarvan dit is nie almal se koppie olof en ys nie. As jy die ry kennis en ondervinding het great andersins gaan probeer dit eers uit. Die dynamics van sidecar ry is nie so maklik soos dit lyk nie. Ek sien jy stel dit as veiliger as twee wiele, hoe se die engelse.....nothing could be further from the truth  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 12:40:13 pm
As jy nou so 'n actuator in SA kry laat my weet dan kan ek my Toyota Hilux jack en wiper motor op myne vervang.  :laughing4:

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 12:41:29 pm
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:

Ek ook maar net die bokant ek sukkel met die onderkant  :biggrin:

Gerrard ek het nog nooit een gebou nie maar het daai Chang Jiang gehad vir so paar jaar. Dit is lekker pret MAAR maak net seker jy hou daarvan dit is nie almal se koppie olof en ys nie. As jy die ry kennis en ondervinding het great andersins gaan probeer dit eers uit. Die dynamics van sidecar ry is nie so maklik soos dit lyk nie. Ek sien jy stel dit as veiliger as twee wiele, hoe se die engelse.....nothing could be further from the truth  :ricky:

Nee, nie te sę veiliger as jy jaag nie. Dis die omval as ek stadig ry. Dis maar net iets wat ek wil doen, oor ek hou van dinge doen. Soos die trailer aan my 1150. Daai ding is nou bleddie gevaarlik en het my op 'n keer amper van die bike afgegooi met trial runs  :lol8:

So paar jaar terug by die EC Bash het ek probeer Humfree se 1200 sidecar ry. Dit was nou 'n ding  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 12:45:17 pm
As jy nou so 'n actuator in SA kry laat my weet dan kan ek my Toyota Hilux jack en wiper motor op myne vervang.  :laughing4:

Het jy jou kar se shock met so bell crank  verstelling gebou ? Ek is van voorneme om dit te doen, maar met meganiese verstelling, want ek glo as jy hom eenmaal getrim het, dan kan jy hom lock. Jy sal basies net twee verstellings hę, met en sonder passasier en as jy eers jou merke het is verstelling gou.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Maverick on May 23, 2019, 12:49:06 pm
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:

Ek ook maar net die bokant ek sukkel met die onderkant  :biggrin:

Gerrard ek het nog nooit een gebou nie maar het daai Chang Jiang gehad vir so paar jaar. Dit is lekker pret MAAR maak net seker jy hou daarvan dit is nie almal se koppie olof en ys nie. As jy die ry kennis en ondervinding het great andersins gaan probeer dit eers uit. Die dynamics van sidecar ry is nie so maklik soos dit lyk nie. Ek sien jy stel dit as veiliger as twee wiele, hoe se die engelse.....nothing could be further from the truth  :ricky:

Nee, nie te sę veiliger as jy jaag nie. Dis die omval as ek stadig ry. Dis maar net iets wat ek wil doen, oor ek hou van dinge doen. Soos die trailer aan my 1150. Daai ding is nou bleddie gevaarlik en het my op 'n keer amper van die bike afgegooi met trial runs  :lol8:

So paar jaar terug by die EC Bash het ek probeer Humfree se 1200 sidecar ry. Dit was nou 'n ding  :lol8:

Die trailer agter die sidecar sal dalk veiliger wees  :biggrin: Enjoy dit is die lekkerste fun wat jy op drie wiele kan he  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 12:56:04 pm
Duidelik het jy nog nie genoeg navorsing gedoen nie.. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=197277.0

Kyk reply  #374 op bladsy 19 :deal:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 01:01:43 pm
Ek het gevind dat die karretjie gelaai of leeg nie veel verskil in die ry as hy reg ingestel is nie.
Hierdie adjustment is nodig as daai padmaker die camber van die pad nie links het nie maar regs....plus die wind waai van links dan moet jy sterk wees in die arms.
Bv. van Bloemfontein tot JHB is die pad amper heelpad camber na regs.  Dan wil jy die karretjie se wiel laat sak met die actuator so in die ry totdat sy lekker uitlevel....Trust my  :thumleft:


Na meer as 3 jaar se ry word die sidecar ryery net lekkerder.
My 2000 km trip na die EC Bash was 'n fees gewees en ek het lekker rowwe paaie gekry en gery....wel stadiger as 'n KTM op die grondpad maar soveel meer relaxed.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 01:02:50 pm
So is hy nog
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 01:26:18 pm
So is hy nog

Wanneer die tyd kom, kom jy kuier en wys my hoe.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 01:29:38 pm
Soek jy vir ons bekostigbare actuators.  Daai goed gebruik hulle om SAT skottels te tune na verskillend posisies toe.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 01:34:03 pm
Soek jy vir ons bekostigbare actuators.  Daai goed gebruik hulle om SAT skottels te tune na verskillend posisies toe.

So hy is meganies, motor/servo ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 01:42:34 pm
Soek jy vir ons bekostigbare actuators.  Daai goed gebruik hulle om SAT skottels te tune na verskillend posisies toe.

So hy is meganies, motor/servo ?

OK, het hom. Volop beskikbaar op ebay so o en by R1 000.00 Mens moet net weet watter spec jy nodig het.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 01:43:23 pm
Elektriese motor wat 'n wurmskroef aandryf. :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 01:45:14 pm
SPEC... daar is die probleem.  Jy soek een wat bietjie kan torque gee en hulle raak duur.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on May 23, 2019, 01:49:54 pm
Da Peeg has a full outfit, ask him for pics :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 23, 2019, 02:19:12 pm
Da Peeg has a full outfit, ask him for pics :biggrin:

Have spoken too him and know his rig.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: roxenz on May 23, 2019, 02:38:38 pm
So is hy nog
Jis, Woody, jy's darem maar vindingryk! Wat 'n slim praktiese plan!  :thumleft: ;D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 23, 2019, 03:04:47 pm
Ek is bly julle verstaan nou...SLIM is ek beslis nie. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on May 23, 2019, 04:04:44 pm
Another interesting thread to follow  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Maverick on May 23, 2019, 04:11:05 pm
Duidelik het jy nog nie genoeg navorsing gedoen nie.. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=197277.0

Kyk reply  #374 op bladsy 19 :deal:

Duidelik het ek saam my ou Chang Jiang agtergebly met tegnologie Woody  :biggrin: Ek is te bang om alles te lees want dan het ek nog 'n projek op my hande en dus ver sal ek die laaste een eers klaar kry teen 2027  :lamer:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on May 24, 2019, 08:13:32 am
Lekker een Gerrard, ek hou die een met belangstelling dop.    :thumleft:

Sidekar leer ry is soos fiets leer ry, as jy hom eers het dan verloor jy hom nie, dit raak net lekkerder hoe meer jy ry, en soos Woody se, jy ry baie meer relaxed.  Kry net daai sidecar reg opgetsel om als makliker vir jou te maak.  O ja en gee die sidecar hoogte sommer van die begin af. 

Sterkte met die projek.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 24, 2019, 08:28:04 am
Jy kan ook altyd weer experimenteer met die SWIVEL konsep.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on May 24, 2019, 08:34:56 am
Jy kan ook altyd weer experimenteer met die SWIVEL konsep.


Fokken smart  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 24, 2019, 11:09:16 am
Lekker een Gerrard, ek hou die een met belangstelling dop.    :thumleft:

Sidekar leer ry is soos fiets leer ry, as jy hom eers het dan verloor jy hom nie, dit raak net lekkerder hoe meer jy ry, en soos Woody se, jy ry baie meer relaxed.  Kry net daai sidecar reg opgetsel om als makliker vir jou te maak.  O ja en gee die sidecar hoogte sommer van die begin af. 

Sterkte met die projek.   :thumleft:

Sal later foto post maar hegtings is so dat verstellings maklik is en as jy hom reg het lock jy hom
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 24, 2019, 02:32:29 pm
Kry net daai sidecar reg opgetsel om als makliker vir jou te maak. 

So sal hy geheg word

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on May 24, 2019, 03:37:43 pm
Lyk baie goed net natuurlik links op die bike.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 28, 2019, 06:46:43 pm
The hub.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on May 28, 2019, 07:04:42 pm
Waar het jy daai hub gekry?

In die see?

 :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 28, 2019, 07:08:48 pm
Waar het jy daai hub gekry?

In die see?

 :peepwall:

Van 'n treiler, wat die ander kant ISM is. Binne kant is goed en hy sal afgewerk word. Hou dop.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 09:28:24 am
Now that I have received the first part the excitement has started. Besides what I've learnt so far from Mr Google and chatting to a few guys, I really know nothing about sidecar build. Besides some basic dimensions I don't work from measurements. I lay it out and put it together. How difficult can it be  :lol8:

Some here in PE might know Davie from Davie's Motors. A DIY genius who can fix anything. I've know him since I was a young snot nose and much of what I can do I learned through him. His approach is that with a bit of skill (acquired through watching, learning and doing), time and the right tools, he can do anything.

Many years ago I walked into his workshop and he was working on a chassis. I asked what it was and he said he is building himself a s/s Nomad to pull his boat. I asked where did he learn to do it, and he said he didn't... he is busy learning how to do it. And that is how its been.

To me he is the ZEN in the Art of Motorcycle maintenance, and I'll dedicate this build to him. (seeing as how he is going to have to help me a lot  :biggrin: )

So here is the plan,... fit wheel to hub, fit hub to swingarm, build frame around swingarm, fix frame to bike, add a tub, get on and ride. Easy  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 09:45:44 am
En baie tyd op jou kniee soos jy rondkruip en ding op garage vloer uit le... vra my.

Good luck en lekker aanmekaar sit....dit is die PRAKTIESE MANIER en dit het vir my gewerk. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 10:03:49 am
En baie tyd op jou kniee soos jy rondkruip en ding op garage vloer uit le... vra my.

Good luck en lekker aanmekaar sit....dit is die PRAKTIESE MANIER en dit het vir my gewerk. :laughing4:

Ek ken nie nie ander manier nie. Van liniaal moet ek wegbly  :lol8:

Meet vir my die wiel wydte tussen jou bike en sidecar wiel. Net dat ek weet om nie daai wydte te gebruik nie  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 10:10:46 am
Nee jy wil nie myne gebruik nie.  Onthou ek het my sidecar baie ver van my fiets omdat hy eers 'n swivel was...toe moes daar spasie wees as bike kantel.
Dus myne track wyer as 'n SUV.
Meet 'n SUV en maak hom dieselfde sodat as jy 'n tweespoor ry val jy lekker tussen die spore.

Gaan myne nog smaller maak...in Versie 3.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 10:15:46 am
Nee jy wil nie myne gebruik nie.  Onthou ek het my sidecar baie ver van my fiets omdat hy eers 'n swivel was...toe moes daar spasie wees as bike kantel.
Dus myne track wyer as 'n SUV.
Meet 'n SUV en maak hom dieselfde sodat as jy 'n tweespoor ry val jy lekker tussen die spore.

Gaan myne nog smaller maak...in Versie 3.  :laughing4:

Weet jy wat se wiel afstand jy wil gebruik, of gaan jy maar net smaller maak tot hy knapper langs die bike pas ? Ek vra want ek beoog om so 1.2m te gebruik.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 10:19:19 am
Luister nou MOOI.

Ry Pick & Pay toe.

Stop by 'n Fortuner.

Gaan le onder hom aan die agterkant en PRAKTIES meet die afstand tussen die agterwiele.

Klaar gepraat.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 10:32:15 am
Luister nou MOOI.

Ry Pick & Pay toe.

Stop by 'n Fortuner.

Gaan le onder hom aan die agterkant en PRAKTIES meet die afstand tussen die agterwiele.

Klaar gepraat.  :laughing4:

Wat is fout me  'n Subaru ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 10:46:08 am
As jy dink daar ry meer Subarus op tweespoor paaie as Fortuners dan kan jy hom seker maar gebruik as 'n maatstaf.

Kan seker nie TE VER uit wees nie.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on May 29, 2019, 10:48:08 am
As jy dink daar ry meer Subarus op tweespoor paaie as Fortuners dan kan jy hom seker maar gebruik as 'n maatstaf.

Kan seker nie TE VER uit wees nie.  :thumleft:
Sy maatstaf is minder Subarus het al in die stof gerol as Fortuners. :deal: ;)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 10:48:59 am
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 12:19:28 pm
These are the basic dimensions I'm building around. From various sources my people have come up with these figures. Not set yet, so comments welcome.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 01:00:12 pm
Jy hou so aan om goed te wys wat REGS is.... jy gaan hom nog maklik verkeerd bou. :3some:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on May 29, 2019, 01:05:28 pm
Ek sal voorstel jy wag totdat jy 'n TUB het.  Dan kan jy bepaal of jy wyd genoeg is sodat hy tussen bike en wiel van sidecar inpas.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 01:06:42 pm
Jy hou so aan om goed te wys wat REGS is.... jy gaan hom nog maklik verkeerd bou. :3some:

Bou ondestebo
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dirt Junkie on May 29, 2019, 02:20:27 pm
Jy hou so aan om goed te wys wat REGS is.... jy gaan hom nog maklik verkeerd bou. :3some:
fixed net vir jou, nou moet jy maar onder le as jy die afstand wil lees  ;)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 29, 2019, 02:22:41 pm
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 31, 2019, 01:47:24 pm
Got wheel (1150 GS) and,

Hub (Hyundai I10)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 31, 2019, 01:49:34 pm
Machine that flange away, add adaptor and its a good fit. Had a chat to my people and machining will be done next week.(hopefully)


Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dawid S on May 31, 2019, 02:38:41 pm
Lyk goed Gerrard, gaan daar nog 'n skouer oor wees waar op hy gaan dra?
Of gaan hy net op die boute dra?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on May 31, 2019, 05:14:32 pm
Ons gaan kyk wat om te doen. Hang af hoe dik die flange/adaptor moet wees. Daar is ook n skouer aan die hub wat ons weer in die wiel kan insny
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Sláinte Mhaith on May 31, 2019, 05:21:53 pm
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Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 01, 2019, 09:53:04 am
Lyk goed Gerrard, gaan daar nog 'n skouer oor wees waar op hy gaan dra?
Of gaan hy net op die boute dra?

Ja. Ek en my ingeneur het hom bekyk. Adaptor is heel eenvoudig. Hy sę ek moet ophou worry en gaan advokaat speel hy sal worry oor ingeneurs werk  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 08, 2019, 01:26:46 pm
Got the pipe for the front of the frame back from the benders.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 08, 2019, 01:42:13 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 11, 2019, 02:04:19 pm
Hoekom het julle nie sommer soos 'n U gebuig nie ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 11, 2019, 06:13:37 pm
Hoekom het julle nie sommer soos 'n U gebuig nie ?

Om wat mee te maak ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 13, 2019, 05:05:01 pm
Adaptor for hub and fitted to wheel. Now we can start building the car around it.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 13, 2019, 05:08:45 pm
Lyk goed Gerrard, gaan daar nog 'n skouer oor wees waar op hy gaan dra?
Of gaan hy net op die boute dra?

Wiel load bear op die adaptor en adaptor load bear op die hub. So die boute is nou net daar om die besigheid bymekaar te hou, en dra nie gewig nie.  :thumleft: Vir die heads up. Blyk ook my ingeneur, soos gesę, weet bietjie meer as ek.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dawid S on June 13, 2019, 05:48:42 pm
""Wiel load bear op die adaptor en adaptor load bear op die hub.""
Dit klink goed :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: gee on June 13, 2019, 06:36:20 pm
was given a old book on side cars writen bu Hal Kendal its got some good information
i have scanned in to my dropbox.you can download it if you want
https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/AABbAnDSX2WhIFBzdC4bDWTOlClPzQ6lWAk
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 16, 2019, 05:59:10 pm
My PAD's working out the swingarm bracket  :biggrin:

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 1ougat on June 16, 2019, 11:53:25 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 19, 2019, 05:46:33 pm
Swing arm bracket
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 21, 2019, 05:51:13 pm
Laying the frame out. Measured and cut.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 22, 2019, 11:15:12 am
Lyk netjies
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 22, 2019, 04:31:06 pm
Frame tacked together. Will be now sent off for welding.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 23, 2019, 02:05:15 pm
Frame welded gussets added and brace to strengthen the frame where the swingarm pivots go

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on June 24, 2019, 11:10:58 am
Dinge kry nou mooi rigting, welgedaan en dit lyk baie netjies  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 11:17:33 am
Nou waar is die TUB ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Kamanya on June 24, 2019, 11:54:48 am
Will you be changing the front suspension of the bike to a sidecar one?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 24, 2019, 12:35:53 pm
Nou waar is die TUB ?

Gaan hom custom bou as tyd kom. Het spasie gelos vir opsies.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 24, 2019, 12:40:14 pm
Will you be changing the front suspension of the bike to a sidecar one?

Not necessarily. Depending on how lucky I am with the design, the tele-lever as is,  do OK with a sidecar. What the guy did on the build I'm copying(Albetros on ADV rider) was to fit a shortened tele-lever to lessen the trail, instead of fitting leading link suspension.

They say (  ::) ) if you get the combination of wheel lead, toe-in and bike-lean out correct, its not heavy on the steering.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 12:43:03 pm
Solank jy nie my idee steel nie

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 24, 2019, 12:44:13 pm
Solank jy nie my idee steel nie

Ek sien al hoe pas jy in daai kar.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 01:17:54 pm
Sit hom mos nie aan 'n Vespatjie nie.  Gaan hom GROOT maak dan word dit my bed in die aand.  Opslaan dak en al.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on June 24, 2019, 01:20:38 pm
Sit hom mos nie aan 'n Vespatjie nie.  Gaan hom GROOT maak dan word dit my bed in die aand.  Opslaan dak en al.  :thumleft:

Maak hom in die vorm van n doodskis, mooi uitgevoer met fluweeltjies en al  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on June 24, 2019, 01:22:33 pm
Maak hom in die vorm van n doodskis, mooi uitgevoer met fluweeltjies en al  :laughing4:

(https://st2.depositphotos.com/1640148/7886/i/950/depositphotos_78868636-stock-photo-coffin-carried-by-a-motorcycle.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 01:24:42 pm
Nee man julle is SIEK... VW Combi PUNT !!!!! :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 24, 2019, 01:28:21 pm
Sit hom mos nie aan 'n Vespatjie nie.  Gaan hom GROOT maak dan word dit my bed in die aand.  Opslaan dak en al.  :thumleft:

Nee, ek check jou idees mooi uit… dan doen ek net andersom  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 01:31:10 pm
Moenie worry nie ek gaan myne nog MOOI maak met ronde pype. :3some:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on June 24, 2019, 04:43:12 pm
Will you be changing the front suspension of the bike to a sidecar one?

Not necessarily. Depending on how lucky I am with the design, the tele-lever as is,  do OK with a sidecar. What the guy did on the build I'm copying(Albetros on ADV rider) was to fit a shortened tele-lever to lessen the trail, instead of fitting leading link suspension.

They say (  ::) ) if you get the combination of wheel lead, toe-in and bike-lean out correct, its not heavy on the steering.

Jou projek kom baie mooi aan, sien jy vat jou tyd en doen elke ding reg van die begin.   :thumleft: :thumleft:

Glo my, al is al daai goed van wheel lead, toe-in en what what mooi getune, gaan jy nog steeds 'n swaarder stuurwiel he.  Maar jy raak gewoond daaraan, dit vat net genoeg ry en oefening.  Jy gaan vinnig nuwe spiere ontwikkel.   :biggrin:  Waar hy jou vat is as jy lang paaie vir twee na drie weke aanmekaar ry, en dan natuurlik dorpryery met sy baie draai werk ook lekker aan jou fiksheid.   :lol8: 

Ek hou verder met baie belangstelling dop.  Daai ou se build op Advrider gesien, baie netjies jobbie daai.   :thumleft: 
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 08:22:12 am
Will you be changing the front suspension of the bike to a sidecar one?

Not necessarily. Depending on how lucky I am with the design, the tele-lever as is,  do OK with a sidecar. What the guy did on the build I'm copying(Albetros on ADV rider) was to fit a shortened tele-lever to lessen the trail, instead of fitting leading link suspension.

They say (  ::) ) if you get the combination of wheel lead, toe-in and bike-lean out correct, its not heavy on the steering.

Jou projek kom baie mooi aan, sien jy vat jou tyd en doen elke ding reg van die begin.   :thumleft: :thumleft:

Glo my, al is al daai goed van wheel lead, toe-in en what what mooi getune, gaan jy nog steeds 'n swaarder stuurwiel he.  Maar jy raak gewoond daaraan, dit vat net genoeg ry en oefening.  Jy gaan vinnig nuwe spiere ontwikkel.   :biggrin:  Waar hy jou vat is as jy lang paaie vir twee na drie weke aanmekaar ry, en dan natuurlik dorpryery met sy baie draai werk ook lekker aan jou fiksheid.   :lol8: 

Ek hou verder met baie belangstelling dop.  Daai ou se build op Advrider gesien, baie netjies jobbie daai.   :thumleft:

 :thumleft: Ek vat hom een ding op 'n slag en daar is nie haas nie. Ek het nog tyd nodig om Lyn te oortuig, maar sy het darem al begin kyk en vrae vra.

Ek is ook nie bang om foute te maak nie, want elke keer as ek 'n fout maak leer ek 'n manier om dit nie te doen nie. So enige kretiek/kommmmentaar is baie welkom.

Ek mik teen die naweek om die wiel aan die raam te sit. Behoort dan ook al die shock te hę.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 08:25:56 am
Will you be changing the front suspension of the bike to a sidecar one?

Not necessarily. Depending on how lucky I am with the design, the tele-lever as is,  do OK with a sidecar. What the guy did on the build I'm copying(Albetros on ADV rider) was to fit a shortened tele-lever to lessen the trail, instead of fitting leading link suspension.

They say (  ::) ) if you get the combination of wheel lead, toe-in and bike-lean out correct, its not heavy on the steering.

But, when the build is done, I hope to visit Humfree so he can tell me what I did wrong and see how he does the leading link suspension. Ultimately I would like to do the conversion, as that is how a sidecar was designed to work.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dustbiter on June 25, 2019, 09:07:36 am
Hi Gérrard,
not sure if you saw my sidecar photos - this R65 (I had one for 20 years), has the standard forks, so it does not seem necessary to change the forks.
This was used in the Nals Oldtimer Bergrennen - so it must handle well.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 25, 2019, 09:37:06 am
That'll keep the passenger entertained during overtaking.....

Stunning rig though!!

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 10:20:34 am
Hi Gérrard,
not sure if you saw my sidecar photos - this R65 (I had one for 20 years), has the standard forks, so it does not seem necessary to change the forks.
This was used in the Nals Oldtimer Bergrennen - so it must handle well.

Yip, I'll see if its necessary. If that is the same model R65's I had, they are the short frame with shorter rake, that's why it would handle better. Same I think as the 1150 would do with tele-lever.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 10:27:27 am
What I've learned from my research is that discussing sidecar set-up is like discussing tyres, CoG, handlebar risers etc. There's no one answer or magic formula... there are parameters, like it must have some wheel lead, toe-in, lean out on the bike etc. It usually ends in an argument with words like 'fool' etc being used  :lol8: Final set-up can only be made when the rig is complete,granted you stayed within known principles which I'm trying too.

There is only one constant that never changes though... most sidecars have three wheels  :imaposer:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 25, 2019, 10:41:38 am
Sidecar riding is COMPLETELY different to riding a motorcycle.
First you look forward to ride a bike that cannot fall over in mud. :thumleft:  But then you have never actually ridden one.
Then you have to get used to this new way of riding. :ricky:
The first trip I thought by myself...WTF....is this really what I want?
Once you ACCEPTED the change and you have your rig setup as good as possible and you get to know the little funnies you start enjoying it more and more.

On my last trip to the Baviaans, Reddersburg, Loxton, Sutherland, Ladismith and back to Riversdal, I KNEW...this is the way I want to spend my last years of riding a bike. :3some:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on June 25, 2019, 11:12:53 am
What I've learned from my research is that discussing sidecar set-up is like discussing tyres, CoG, handlebar risers etc. There's no one answer or magic formula... there are parameters, like it must have some wheel lead, toe-in, lean out on the bike etc. It usually ends in an argument with words like 'fool' etc being used  :lol8: Final set-up can only be made when the rig is complete,granted you stayed within known principles which I'm trying too.

There is only one constant that never changes though... most sidecars have three wheels  :imaposer:

True word.   :deal: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 25, 2019, 03:17:53 pm
Sidecar riding is COMPLETELY different to riding a motorcycle.
First you look forward to ride a bike that cannot fall over in mud. :thumleft:  But then you have never actually ridden one.
Then you have to get used to this new way of riding. :ricky:
The first trip I thought by myself...WTF....is this really what I want?
Once you ACCEPTED the change and you have your rig setup as good as possible and you get to know the little funnies you start enjoying it more and more.

On my last trip to the Baviaans, Reddersburg, Loxton, Sutherland, Ladismith and back to Riversdal, I KNEW...this is the way I want to spend my last years of riding a bike. :3some:

Still a bit young to be saying that......?  >:D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 25, 2019, 03:23:58 pm
Ek lyk maar net so goed...want ek rook nie, ek drink nie en ek neem my kinders aan.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 09:13:44 pm
The handlanger and I got busy with some 'precision engineering" tonite.

Making up the swingarm
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 09:15:46 pm
Lugs for the swingarm pivots, trial fitted and tacked with dummy hub


Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 25, 2019, 09:17:09 pm
Next fit the swingarm to the pivot

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 07:35:39 am
Nou wanneer gaan ons ry.... SARS het my betaal vanoggend.. Ek is sorted vir 'n trip. :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on June 26, 2019, 08:44:19 am
The handlanger and I got busy with some 'precision engineering" tonite.

Making up the swingarm

Hey Watchit!

I'm not just a Handlanger, I am a Senior Works Supervisor...................cause heaven knows if we left you to measure and cut on your own, we would be seeing very different results as we are all aware of your "Precision Engineering", it's not rocket science, approach  :3some: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:



And by the way, I don't know if having the 1st ride in the Sidecar is a "threat or reward" , if the Trailer build test ride is any indication :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 08:50:05 am
Ek sal nie eerste in daai draadkarretjie wil ry nie...hy moet hom maar eers met 'n sak sout op 'n paar rowwe grondpaaie gaan ry en kyk of hy nie uitmekaar val nie.

En ek se nie Lynn is 'n SAK nie  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on June 26, 2019, 09:27:14 am
 :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 11:29:36 am
Al die geploeter daar in daai garage het my kop nou weer aan die draai.

Nog altyd ges my sidecar is 'n PROJEK.  Die projek is nog nie klaar nie.

Het al idees gehad om FUNNY tubs te bou en hulle op en af te haal soos die geleendheid hom voordoen.
Was eers 'n Landy gewees... Dan wou ek 'n sticker opsit..."Gelukkig het 'n Yamaha verbygekom"
Ander idee was 'n VW combi splittie.  Hy sou alles plat vou binne sodat ek in hom kan slaap...met 'n opslaan dak en al.
Verder het ek al gedroom van 'n Teardrop karavaantjie agter aan te sleep.
Toe kom ek vandag op die foto af.......
Oooooo donder ek ruik ROOK !!!!

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: JoeR on June 26, 2019, 11:36:23 am
This one looks pretty cool!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on June 26, 2019, 01:13:02 pm
@woody1


...may I suggest adding a ROOFRACK (as per attached pic) to your proposed sleep-mobile'?!  ;)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 01:24:23 pm
Also thought it would be a good idea...and it will look COOL  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 26, 2019, 02:27:39 pm
Ek dink steeds die een is piss cool, as jy dan nou moet mal gaan

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 02:42:28 pm
100% korrek...
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 26, 2019, 03:00:14 pm
OK - Die koffie, dit vestaan ek....

Maar hoekom is daar 'n frying pan in die slaapsak.....?  :eek7:

En hoekom noddig hy die AK in die Korring Veld - en dan los hom somer in die Sidekar terwyl hy slaap.....?  ::)

Anyway, ek sal laaik om die vrou se kar buite te laat slaap om die rig in die garage te park.....

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 03:14:02 pm
As 'n Ural met 'n sidecar sukkel om berge uit te kom wonder ek wat sy spoed is met die Teardrop aan.

Maar dan bygese hoekom JAAG as jy op so 'n luilekker trippie is  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on June 27, 2019, 06:37:21 am
OK - Die koffie, dit vestaan ek....

Maar hoekom is daar 'n frying pan in die slaapsak.....?  :eek7:

En hoekom noddig hy die AK in die Korring Veld - en dan los hom somer in die Sidekar terwyl hy slaap.....?  ::)

Anyway, ek sal laaik om die vrou se kar buite te laat slaap om die rig in die garage te park.....

 :thumleft:

Jy moet meer uitkom ou. Dele van die vorige USSR is 'n AK so algemeen soos 'n biltong mes hier by ons.....

Wat ek nie verstaan nie is die Šubara op die kop maar 'n t-hemp op die lyf?

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on June 27, 2019, 09:47:19 am
OK - Die koffie, dit vestaan ek....

Maar hoekom is daar 'n frying pan in die slaapsak.....?  :eek7:

En hoekom noddig hy die AK in die Korring Veld - en dan los hom somer in die Sidekar terwyl hy slaap.....?  ::)

Anyway, ek sal laaik om die vrou se kar buite te laat slaap om die rig in die garage te park.....

 :thumleft:

Jy moet meer uitkom ou. Dele van die vorige USSR is 'n AK so algemeen soos 'n biltong mes hier by ons.....

Wat ek nie verstaan nie is die Šubara op die kop maar 'n t-hemp op die lyf?

Hel manne weet julle niks nie - dit word genoem "Instagram"

Alles in die lewe is fake deesdae - kort net daai shot wat goed lyk vir Instagram  :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on June 27, 2019, 10:16:40 am
Instagram......

Hell manne, laat ek dit bietjie Yahoo!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on June 27, 2019, 10:32:43 am
Instagram......

Hell manne, laat ek dit bietjie Yahoo!

Jy bedoel seker Alta Vista?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on June 27, 2019, 10:54:51 am

Jy bedoel seker Alta Vista?

Nee
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 27, 2019, 07:40:55 pm
Test fitting the swingarm. Its a temporary pivot at this stage. Need to get it on for now that I can work on the suspension (while I wait for my engineer to come back from his six week overseas holiday and make me the proper one. Very inconvenient. )

The swingarm is 44mm and the pivot bush 38mm. Drilled hole through swingarm to give a nice snug fit. Makes it easier to set up on my own.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 27, 2019, 07:42:14 pm
Jigged up and tacked on
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 27, 2019, 07:44:00 pm
In position and what it will look like next to the bike. Nice high clearance. All good so far.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on June 27, 2019, 08:10:18 pm
Nice clearance, hope it stays that way once everything is on and loaded.   :thumleft:  You will need as much clearance as possible for the real ruff stuff.   :thumleft: :thumleft: 

So far it really looks great.   :deal:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 27, 2019, 08:34:08 pm
Nice clearance, hope it stays that way once everything is on and loaded.   :thumleft:  You will need as much clearance as possible for the real ruff stuff.   :thumleft: :thumleft: 

So far it really looks great.   :deal:

The suspension will be mounted with a bell crank so it can be height adjusted with a linear actuator depending on the load.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 09:33:47 am
Woody hier's die link op advrider en die ou se suspensie set-up https://advrider.com/f/threads/the-albatross-1150gs-sidecar-build.1318549/
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on June 28, 2019, 09:38:56 am
Jy vorder by goed, dit begin nou al hoe meer om na 'n sidecar te lyk  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 09:44:48 am
Ja ek het daai gesien op ADV.  Myne werk ook so.  Net dat ek 'n Toyota bakkie jack met 'n wiper motor gebruik het en nie 'n duur actuator of 'n BMW part nie  :laughing4:

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 09:46:57 am
Verder "DINK" ek jou swinarm is maar bietjie maar...weet nie of jy hom nog verder gaan versterk nie.
Gedink hy moet so lyk.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 09:56:44 am
Bliksem  :lol8: dis 44 x 2.5  chrome molly(?). Dikker as op ander sidecars en ural. Die hegting moet nog gusset kry
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 09:59:35 am
Ok, ek dink jy is sarkasties  ::)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 10:03:16 am
Nee net JALOERS... Sien jy maak hom so mooi met al die regte parte.
Myne was/ is 'n Brakpan special.
Die Riversdal special sal beter wees en lyk... maar sonder BMW parte.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 10:11:22 am
Daai Actuators is moer skaars en duur in SA.  Ook nie maklik om hier te kry nie.
Dus as jy hom invoer https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Automations-Industrial-Linear-Actuator/dp/B006P58WK4/ref=sr_1_3?qid=1561709731&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A7123193011&s=industrial&sr=1-3

is hy R 4000.00 sonder belastings en vervoerkostes al klaar.

Daai jack kos my R 180.00 by pawnshop.
Wiper motor wa R 150.00 by scrapyard.

I rest my case your Honour.

Ok hy lyk nie so mooi nie maar hy werk....op 'n budget  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 10:20:21 am
Nee net JALOERS... Sien jy maak hom so mooi met al die regte parte.
Myne was/ is 'n Brakpan special.
Die Riversdal special sal beter wees en lyk... maar sonder BMW parte.  :laughing4:

 :lol8: daars nou al baie sidecars deur baie mense gebou oor tyd. Wat ek nou probeer is om wat na goeie idees lyk, bymekaar te sit.

Ek sal maar sien oor die actuator.  Hy kan heel laaste gedoen word as daar ietsie op die budget oor is. Intussen maak ek hom manual net om my setup reg te kry
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 10:31:14 am
Doen die arm / cam gedeelte nou al. Dan maak jy net verskillende lengtes LINKS wat jy in die plek van die actuator kan insit sodat jy verstellings kan doen. :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 10:37:02 am
Doen die arm / cam gedeelte nou al. Dan maak jy net verskillende lengtes LINKS wat jy in die plek van die actuator kan insit sodat jy verstellings kan doen. :thumleft:


 :thumleft: Net so
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on June 28, 2019, 10:39:04 am
Lyk my ek HELP meer as jou planne tekenaar.... :peepwall: :pot: :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 03:10:16 pm
Ah ! The forum... we moan and bitch and donner each other, but ask for 1150 rear wheel bolts and you get some  :lol8:

Any body need, let me know
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 03:14:34 pm
Got the1150 rear shock from Bakgatjaco (the man is a star). While I'm on the RT taking a ZEN ride to Woody this weekend for a cup of coffee, I'll think about mounting it.

Also want to have a good look at his rig, just to make sure I'm on the right track (not doing it like him  :lol8: )
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on June 28, 2019, 03:26:53 pm
Got the1150 rear shock from Bakgatjaco (the man is a star). While I'm on the RT taking a ZEN ride to Woody this weekend for a cup of coffee, I'll think about mounting it.

Also want to have a good look at his rig, just to make sure I'm on the right track (not doing it like him :lol8: )


 :biggrin:

Foooook, en ek dog ek sal jou ons rig kom wys die naweek, ons gaan Kirkwood Wildfees toe maar slaap op Colcester.  Gaan met die karretjie as als goed gaan.    :patch:
Maar aan die ander kant, jy raak nou so goed ons rig lyk skoon old school.   :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on June 28, 2019, 03:54:25 pm
Got the1150 rear shock from Bakgatjaco (the man is a star). While I'm on the RT taking a ZEN ride to Woody this weekend for a cup of coffee, I'll think about mounting it.

Also want to have a good look at his rig, just to make sure I'm on the right track (not doing it like him :lol8: )


 :biggrin:

Foooook, en ek dog ek sal jou ons rig kom wys die naweek, ons gaan Kirkwood Wildfees toe maar slaap op Colcester.  Gaan met die karretjie as als goed gaan.    :patch:
Maar aan die ander kant, jy raak nou so goed ons rig lyk skoon old school.   :lol8:

Dis nou jammerte, maar ek moet bietjie kop skoonmaak. Daar's nog baie op julle rig wat ek wil sien. Sal wanneer die tyd kom 'n  draai maak.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on June 28, 2019, 04:18:04 pm
Not a probs, ek en Nan gaan nog baie rondrits, sal wel plan later maak.  Mooi ry en geniet die naweek.   :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 10:40:11 am
So I popped in at Woody's this weekend for a look at his sidecar set-up He acknowledges there's a lot of improvement he can make. What I've learned from his set-up is there is a wide margin for error and it will still go ok. Some will go better,, some not.

Rode behind him a while and he klapped it. His car runs just fine. So far I' happy that I'm on the right track.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 01, 2019, 11:11:31 am
Dankie vir die vinnige kuier.

Het jy nog kaas oor ? :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on July 01, 2019, 01:29:49 pm
So I popped in at Woody's this weekend for a look at his sidecar set-up He acknowledges there's a lot of improvement he can make. What I've learned from his set-up is there is a wide margin for error and it will still go ok. Some will go better,, some not.

Rode behind him a while and he klapped it. His car runs just fine. So far I' happy that I'm on the right track.

Took ours out the weekend for a ride to Kirkwood and slept at Colcester.  Next day to Port Alfred and then home.  Just realized how we missed the old girl.  She runs a charm, very happy with her setup.  A little bumpy on gravel when not loaded, other than that very happy.  I was surprised at the speed I could maintain without the bike struggling.     
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 06:26:37 pm
Cut hole for shock mount
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 06:27:49 pm
Mounting brackets
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 06:29:38 pm
Making spacers. Cut hole in 12 plate with bi-metal hole saw.. slowly

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 06:33:24 pm
And how it mounts
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 01, 2019, 06:34:16 pm
Making spacers. Cut hole in 12 plate with bi-metal hole saw.. slowly

Slowly with some cutting oil - its ok with a good quality hole saw but can be frustrating  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 01, 2019, 06:55:37 pm
Making spacers. Cut hole in 12 plate with bi-metal hole saw.. slowly

Slowly with some cutting oil - its ok with a good quality hole saw but can be frustrating  :lol8:

ATF !
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 02, 2019, 07:29:59 am
Nou hoekom kan die prentjie tekenaar nie die goed DESIGN en laat jy dit lasercut nie....Baie makliker en mooier  :pot:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 02, 2019, 07:39:28 am
Nou hoekom kan die prentjie tekenaar nie die goed DESIGN en laat jy dit lasercut nie....Baie makliker en mooier  :pot:

Vat te lank. Ek wil dit NOU doen. En van wanneer af worry jy oor mooi  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 02, 2019, 07:40:03 am
Vandat ek van Brakpan getrek het  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 02, 2019, 08:18:00 am
Jy weet mos ons lę hom uit pas en bou. As ek van n plan af gewerk het sou ek al eers kon stuur vir laser cutting, nou gooi ek maar met die angle grinddr
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 02, 2019, 08:10:14 pm
Got me some hardware
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 02, 2019, 08:13:25 pm
Making the bellcrank to adjust suspension height

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 03, 2019, 07:35:38 am
Jy speel LEKKER  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on July 03, 2019, 08:02:17 am
Jy vorder baie goed  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Matewis on July 03, 2019, 08:19:10 am
Got me some hardware


Bliksem Boere, maar hy loop lekker. Hierdie outjies is magic want dan kan jy als op 'n tiekie stel! Lyk my iemand wil die volgende bash in sy side-car bywoon. Hoop jou somme is reg sodat jou coolerbox inpas!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 03, 2019, 08:59:55 am
Got me some hardware


Bliksem Boere, maar hy loop lekker. Hierdie outjies is magic want dan kan jy als op 'n tiekie stel! Lyk my iemand wil die volgende bash in sy side-car bywoon. Hoop jou somme is reg sodat jou coolerbox inpas!

My handlanger sal bevestig. Ek meet nie eintlik nie. Sit die wiel op sy plek en bou die frame om hom. Sit die yskas neer en bou die tub om hom
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 03, 2019, 01:19:36 pm
Begin al dink aan my vlg projek as my sideacar klaar is... my camper
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on July 03, 2019, 03:12:55 pm
Begin al dink aan my vlg projek as my sideacar klaar is... my camper


 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:  Sal werk, jy sal orals inpas met daai plakkers camper.   :eek7: :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 03, 2019, 03:26:36 pm
G noem homself TRAILER TRASH.... :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on July 03, 2019, 03:47:39 pm
G noem homself TRAILER TRASH.... :laughing4:

Nee wat, dan is dit net die wa vir hom.   :imaposer:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 03, 2019, 05:44:11 pm
Begin al dink aan my vlg projek as my sideacar klaar is... my camper

Mal daaroor, soos vir in regrig.  :)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 03, 2019, 07:45:02 pm
For now then a manually adjustable suspension. Will get some fine tuning later when I get an actuator. Need the frame on the wheel so I can start working on the subframe and set-up.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 04, 2019, 07:46:29 pm
Got the metal for the subframe. Tonite's job was dawing the pictures for the joints and lugs, so the prentjie tekenaar can do the CAD's and have it laser cut
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 05, 2019, 07:52:18 am
Dus WAG ons maar weer..... :pot: :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on July 05, 2019, 07:53:05 am
 :deal:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 05, 2019, 08:43:49 am
Dus WAG ons maar weer..... :pot: :laughing4:

Ek het darem intussen goed om mee aan te gaan vir die vlg paar maande terwyl ek wag vir goed on gesny en buig te word.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 05, 2019, 09:57:47 am
:deal:

Woody  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 05, 2019, 09:59:13 am
watch this space  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 05, 2019, 02:45:58 pm
The Prentjie Tekenaar is on strike, till the "Geleerde Boemelaar" buys decent coffee again..............we had to start drinking Tea already last week, this bloody sidecar takes all the coffee money  8)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 05, 2019, 02:47:35 pm
Geleerde Trailer Trash asb, :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 05, 2019, 02:48:01 pm
Betaal hy met KAAS  :pot:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 05, 2019, 02:49:04 pm
Nee wat, ons moet 'las' om Kaas te kry  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 05, 2019, 02:49:48 pm
Maar hy doen darem door-door delivery  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 05, 2019, 02:51:29 pm
Met die aankoms van n Sidecar, gaan sy Kaas aflewerings besigheid rerig grootmaat gaan. Dan kan ons 8 stukke kry ipv net n tenk sakkie vol  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 05, 2019, 06:10:18 pm
NOU gaan onside bike strip en die subframe bou. Thanks Kobus M. I think for a small consideration that table lift might just stay here  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 06, 2019, 05:46:36 pm
And stripped. Had to make a looong alan key to get the right upper crashbar off.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 06, 2019, 05:50:44 pm
Temporary lugs to test fit the subframe. A most satisfactory days work. On this fit I loose 20mm clearance. I can shorten the lugs and lift the frame 10mm.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 06, 2019, 06:44:02 pm
Was not happy with loosing the 20mm clearance so made an adjustment to the lugs. Now its the same as it was originally. 190mm under the bellypan with the suspension loaded.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on July 06, 2019, 09:53:00 pm
Jy sal vir my vir n spin moet vat wanneer hy klaar is  :ricky:

Lyk baie goed so ver  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 07, 2019, 02:02:44 pm
How I will do the sub-frame. Will go both sides with a brace. Basically replacing the crashbars.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 08, 2019, 07:17:40 pm
And now we wait for lots of parts to come back from engineering $$$$
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 09, 2019, 08:34:14 am
My prentjie tekenaar was besig gewees. Om te scratch bou is nie sommer vir lek aan die leeu se bal nie. Ek het nie planne en mates nie. Werk van google fotos af, so dis sit en ponder, meet en pas, en uitdink wat is als nodig. So ver so goed. Geniet my gate uit.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 09, 2019, 08:37:00 am
Voer hom kaas en hy produce  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 11, 2019, 01:44:18 pm
Kaas Bra  :thumleft:
 :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 16, 2019, 08:02:26 pm
Let the fun continue. Got my parts back from laser cutting
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 16, 2019, 08:04:34 pm
Putting the subframe together
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 16, 2019, 08:06:14 pm
Fitted to the bike
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dawid S on July 16, 2019, 09:12:47 pm
Wil jy nie maar my CO2 welder koop nie.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 16, 2019, 11:13:55 pm
Wil jy nie maar my CO2 welder koop nie.

Sou lekker wees om fancy te weld, maar ek  doen ok en my goed breek nie. Vir die hoeveelheid kere wat ek dit werklik nodig het regverdig dit nie. Dan laat ek professioneel weld.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: gee on July 17, 2019, 07:32:45 am
Am i correct there is no welding on the bike frame? Your sidecar will just bolt straight on using the engine mounting ext
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 17, 2019, 08:50:42 am
Am i correct there is no welding on the bike frame? Your sidecar will just bolt straight on using the engine mounting ext

That right. No welding on the frame or mods. Subframe bolts on to hard points on the bike
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 17, 2019, 09:04:53 pm
Need some help. I need this part for my build. Its a 12V electric linear actuator, with a handlebar toggle controller. This particular product Part no PA-17-6-2000 is supplied by Progressive Automations in Canada. I already have immigrant on it and otherwise my people are looking.

All help is appreciated as I'm not that sharp on the internet. I have mailed the supplier and Oshkosh found a supplier in SA with similar products. Parker Hannifin. I'm waiting to hear from the also.

Thanks.

Here is a link to an add on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P58WK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybS8Cb3X35SN7
Title: My Sidecar Project
Post by: immigrant on July 17, 2019, 11:36:13 pm
Need some help. I need this part for my build. Its a 12V electric linear actuator, with a handlebar toggle controller. This particular product Part no PA-17-6-2000 is supplied by Progressive Automations in Canada. I already have immigrant on it and otherwise my people are looking.

All help is appreciated as I'm not that sharp on the internet. I have mailed the supplier and Oshkosh found a supplier in SA with similar products. Parker Hannifin. I'm waiting to hear from the also.

Thanks.

Here is a link to an add on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P58WK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybS8Cb3X35SN7
Do you want the 6” stroke or the 4” stroke. ( your model number says 6” but the amazon pic is 4”).
There is a other WD member that will be coming to visit family not too far from me. Maybe he can take it home with him......

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190717/eff5f7b9037ad8528fba71c0bf11365d.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Uncleogre on July 18, 2019, 12:27:37 am
Gerrard
I came across your build on AdventureRider and I am starting out on building a similar rig using a R1150GSA with BMW sidecar wheel.  I hope you don't mind my stealing your very good techniques.
But anyway, we don't have the I10 in Australia, so I am starting with a similar unit from an I20, complete with ABS sensor!
Stuart
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 18, 2019, 08:56:31 am
Gerrard
I came across your build on AdventureRider and I am starting out on building a similar rig using a R1150GSA with BMW sidecar wheel.  I hope you don't mind my stealing your very good techniques.
But anyway, we don't have the I10 in Australia, so I am starting with a similar unit from an I20, complete with ABS sensor!
Stuart

Welcome. I'm just following other builds adding my own ideas, like the rap around brackets for strength. I might be overdoing it a bit. Let me know if you want more detail pics of anything. And keep us updated. You might also come up with ideas that will help. Don't hesitate with any suggestions.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 18, 2019, 08:59:49 am

... complete with ABS sensor!

That might be a problem. Won't the sensing rates defer and mess with the computer. I'm just removing the ABS on my bike.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Uncleogre on July 18, 2019, 09:29:54 am
Thanks for the offer. 
I really like the wraparound brackets and the setting up of the bottom mounts is really simple.
Eagerly waiting for your top mounts.
The ABS is definitely going.  I made the comment because that is all there is available.  I have it on my Mazda BT50 and it is a real pain in sand.

Stuart
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 18, 2019, 09:48:37 am
Thanks for the offer. 
I really like the wraparound brackets and the setting up of the bottom mounts is really simple.
Eagerly waiting for your top mounts.
The ABS is definitely going.  I made the comment because that is all there is available.  I have it on my Mazda BT50 and it is a real pain in sand.

Stuart


There will be another brace on the bike subframe. See the attached pic I received from Humfree (here on the forum. Very helpful.) The second pic is a very nice setup using a Ural frame which I'm copying.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 18, 2019, 08:17:38 pm
While pondering about the electric actuator I decided to do a Woody and use a linear mechanical jack. This will allow me to in the mean time set up the car and suspension. I'll make the mounts in such a way that I can just replace it with an eletric actuator, or do another Woody, and add a wiper motor to actuate the jack.


Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 19, 2019, 07:39:07 am
Brakpan in PE  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on July 19, 2019, 07:54:11 am
Brakpan in PE  :laughing4:

Is mos Brakpan by die see
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 19, 2019, 09:28:31 am
Brakpan in PE  :laughing4:

Is mos Brakpan by die see

Hey ! Ek het darem bietjie klas. Ek kom van Despatch af. Syne is op 'n scrapyard gekoop… myne nuut by Midas.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 19, 2019, 09:29:46 am
Maar myne was R 120.00 ...ek mors nie geld nie  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on July 19, 2019, 09:31:40 am
Maak jou eie electrical actuator.

Gebruik 'n jack en dan 'n 12v cordless drill wat jy in wire op die bike se battery met 'n switch op die handle bar vir aan en af en nog 'n switch om die direction (op en af) te verander.

As jy DIY kan jy maar net sowel al die pad DIY  ;D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 19, 2019, 09:38:27 am
Maak jou eie electrical actuator.

Gebruik 'n jack en dan 'n 12v cordless drill wat jy in wire op die bike se battery met 'n switch op die handle bar vir aan en af en nog 'n switch om die direction (op en af) te verander.

As jy DIY kan jy maar net sowel al die pad DIY  ;D

Dit is vir nou die plan. Probleem met dril is waterdigtheid. Die cheapskates van brakpan af gebruik 'n wiper motor met reversible switch.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 19, 2019, 09:43:51 am
Jy kry nog so 'n kondoom wat oor die switch pas... :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 19, 2019, 09:45:30 am
So een
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 19, 2019, 06:01:53 pm
Got the swingarm back from the welders
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 20, 2019, 06:38:10 pm
Making jigs to set the car up next to the bike and make the connections. First one did not work out so well Second one is sorted.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 20, 2019, 06:40:22 pm
Now to ponder how far the frame goes from the bike. I think a bit loser.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: gee on July 21, 2019, 10:44:34 am
looks good i notice on a lot of rigs they seem to use car tyres on the sidecar and the back of the bike
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 11:40:44 am
looks good i notice on a lot of rigs they seem to use car tyres on the sidecar and the back of the bike

Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: JFE on July 21, 2019, 12:41:43 pm
Now to ponder how far the frame goes from the bike. I think a bit loser.

For what it’s worth the road traffic act stipulation is a maximum width of 2.6m for a vehicle. Don’t know how close you are to that, was pondering legality of the final build.


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Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 21, 2019, 12:58:10 pm
Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Mr D on July 21, 2019, 01:04:28 pm
Subscribe, looks to be a cool project so keen to see the progress  :deal:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 02:31:39 pm
Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie. :laughing4:

Hulle sę so en hulle is  altyd reg. Ons sal maar eers sien. Work in progress
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 21, 2019, 02:39:52 pm
HULLE se PAMPOEN skille... jy gaan die skille gooi. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on July 21, 2019, 02:41:40 pm
Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie. :laughing4:
not sure about that, my view would be a “square” tyre is fine if you cannot lean the thing? Except when you lift the 3rd wheel :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 03:33:04 pm
There is a theory, and practice to it. Car tyre grips too much. You need a bit of slip on a non driven sidecar wheel or you'll put a lot of strain on the bike's drive. Cost of tyre v cost of clutch, gearbox, shaft, final drive etc
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 03:58:25 pm
HULLE se PAMPOEN skille... jy gaan die skille gooi. :laughing4:

Hulle doen die ding al 'n lang tyd. Hoeveel Urals het jy al gesien met kar wiele ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 04:03:57 pm
Today's job. Subframe complete. It still gets a brace to the main frame at the top and rear crashbar mount. That front mount is the weak point. I'm a bit worried I made it too strong. In a totalled crash that subframe is going to come out one piece.

Having completed it, I gained  10mm in clearance. Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar.  :lol8: )

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: FanieKrismis on July 21, 2019, 04:46:23 pm
Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar.  :lol8: )

Brakpan low profiles do that...
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 05:16:46 pm
Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar.  :lol8: )

Brakpan low profiles do that...

En moenie die dropped suspension vergeet nie  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on July 21, 2019, 05:19:28 pm
I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work.  Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 05:32:45 pm
I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work.  Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...

You get Humfree to do it for you. He has the jigs for the1200.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 05:36:07 pm
In my limited experience view building the car frame is the easy part. That took e a weekend. Building the subframe is the tricky part.

Getting it where I'm happy, took me three weeks. If you an get someone to do the subframe for you, do it. Making up the brackets for it all to go together, is also straight forward. There's only one way for it to go, so its cut and weld
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 21, 2019, 05:52:19 pm
Gerrard, daai saaitskar kom mooi aan! Ek is beindruk.

Vir wat dit werd is, die motorfiets, weens die "rem" effek van die syspan se gewig aan slegs een kant, veroorsaak dat die hele voertuig in die rigting van die syspan beur.

Om dit tee te werk moet jy onbewustelik die hele tyd die fiets wegdraai van die syspan af, om n reguit lyn te hou.

Ek dink jy kan uitwerk hoe daai ge-wegdraaiery op jou bande gaan werk.

Dink maar aan motorbande.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 05:56:36 pm
Gerrard, daai saaitskar kom mooi aan! Ek is beindruk.

Vir wat dit werd is, die motorfiets, weens die "rem" effek van die syspan se gewig aan slegs een kant, veroorsaak dat die hele voertuig in die rigting van die syspan beur.

Om dit tee te werk moet jy onbewustelik die hele tyd die fiets wegdraai van die syspan af, om n reguit lyn te hou.

Ek dink jy kan uitwerk hoe daai ge-wegdraaiery op jou bande gaan werk.

Dink maar aan motorbande.

Ek stem saam, dit is maar wat 'n sidecar doen, maar daar is maniere om hom reg in te stel om dit te minimaliseer. Jy al woody se lekker dik arms gesien  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 21, 2019, 06:00:19 pm
Gerrard, daai saaitskar kom mooi aan! Ek is beindruk.

Vir wat dit werd is, die motorfiets, weens die "rem" effek van die syspan se gewig aan slegs een kant, veroorsaak dat die hele voertuig in die rigting van die syspan beur.

Om dit tee te werk moet jy onbewustelik die hele tyd die fiets wegdraai van die syspan af, om n reguit lyn te hou.

Ek dink jy kan uitwerk hoe daai ge-wegdraaiery op jou bande gaan werk.

Dink maar aan motorbande.

Ek stem saam, dit is maar wat 'n sidecar doen, maar daar is maniere om hom reg in te stel om dit te minimaliseer. Jy al woody se lekker dik arms gesien  :lol8:

Ek dog dis van armdruk daar in Brakpan. :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on July 21, 2019, 07:27:44 pm
I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work.  Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...

You get Humfree to do it for you. He has the jigs for the1200.
It is a bucket list item.   ;D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 07:30:51 pm
I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work.  Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...

You get Humfree to do it for you. He has the jigs for the1200.
It is a bucket list item.   ;D

Do it dont wait. I've been putting it off for three years.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 10:08:31 am
Excitement mounting. Just got a call from the engineering shop to say I can collect the mounting hardware. First test ride this weekend ?  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 22, 2019, 10:47:43 am
Ek sien julle skinder lekker agter my rug...julle weet seker ek kan nie via Tapatalk inlog en julle vasvat oor die naweke nie.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: the_BOBNOB on July 22, 2019, 11:39:51 am
Jy moet die sidecar groot genoeg maak dat jy kan slaap in hom.

EC Bash - no pitching a tent  ;D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 12:03:14 pm
Jy moet die sidecar groot genoeg maak dat jy kan slaap in hom.

EC Bash - no pitching a tent  ;D

Dis reeds gesort... ek en Woody lepel in sy caravan tub.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 22, 2019, 01:06:03 pm
Ek bring net kaas  :3some:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 06:34:16 pm
Dit is nie sommer net vir lek aan die leeu se bal nie. When all of this is used up, the sidecar will be fitted to the bike  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 08:20:31 pm
Front joint tacked and trial fitted
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on July 22, 2019, 08:37:38 pm
Ek sal maar op die uitkyk bly vir 'n Ural of CJ rig vir die R65.  As jy hom eendag in die Kaap kom ry, laat weet.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 08:42:42 pm
Ek sal maar op die uitkyk bly vir 'n Ural of CJ rig vir die R65.  As jy hom eendag in die Kaap kom ry, laat weet.   :thumleft:

Hy sal sekerlik Kaap toe kom. Eerste regte trip sal Oasis toe wees. Dis nou na ek vir almal die kar gewys het. Elke plek waar ek werk laat doen wil hulle weet vir wat dit is en die standard reaksie is : "Rerig, jy moet hom kom wys as hy klaar is."
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on July 22, 2019, 08:57:40 pm
Dis so, maar ek soek een om my hond mee saam te ry.  Ek wil eers weet of hy daarvan gaan hou.

Alle grappies op 'n stokkie.  Wel gedaan  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 09:02:09 pm
Dis so, maar ek soek een om my hond mee saam te ry.  Ek wil eers weet of hy daarvan gaan hou.

Alle grappies op 'n stokkie.  Wel gedaan  :thumleft:

 :thumleft: Ons sal die hond vir 'n spin vat. Enige hond is happy met die wind in sy gesig.

Sover ver is ek tevrede dat dit uitwerk soos dit in my kop lyk.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 22, 2019, 09:05:32 pm
En julle moenie dink ek is te oulik nie  :lol8: My sidecar mentor, Humfree, hou elke stap oor my skouer dop, en ek gaan nie aan voor hy nie goedkeuring gee nie.

Thanks Ryno. Totaal onselfsugtig met raad en leiding terwyl hy met himself kompiteer.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 23, 2019, 07:23:39 am
Nou wanneer moet ek die TUB bring  :ricky:
Lyk of JULLE vorder :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 23, 2019, 08:36:14 am
Nou wanneer moet ek die TUB bring  :ricky:
Lyk of JULLE vorder :laughing4:

Ons hang maar nog bietjie aan. Nie seker wat ek wil doen nie.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 23, 2019, 04:40:20 pm
Woody, lyk my G dinkek moet op n stuk hout vasklou, in plaas van in n mooi karretjie ry,  terwyl hy straat op en af ry, om die ding te toets  :coffee:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 23, 2019, 07:51:38 pm
Doodskis sal mooi lyk, en lekker warm slaap
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 23, 2019, 09:52:03 pm
Rear sidecar mount done
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 23, 2019, 09:53:09 pm
Bits and pieces of the sidecar brackets for welding.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 10Klr on July 24, 2019, 11:43:50 am
Keeping a a keen eye on this one!   Cant wait to see this one riding around  :thumleft:



Those 1150s look great with a car attached!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 24, 2019, 11:56:48 am
Keeping a a keen eye on this one!   Cant wait to see this one riding around  :thumleft:

Those 1150s look great with a car attached!

Yip, have to remind myself all the time so slow down and take it easy. Already made some small mistakes due to impatience, but could fix it. That's what I love about metal. 

So far I'm two months into the project and way ahead of schedule, but the slow time is coming There is still a shit load to do with lots of down time when I send parts away for finishing, like the shock that still has to go to Superfoxi for a rebuild and then designing building the tub.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 24, 2019, 01:13:36 pm
Bits and pieces of the sidecar brackets for welding.

I tried to cleanup and order the parts to make a presentable photo, but the master doesn't like order........................like he likes measuring  :peepwall: :pot:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 24, 2019, 01:26:47 pm
Bits and pieces of the sidecar brackets for welding.

I tried to cleanup and order the parts to make a presentable photo, but the master doesn't like order........................like he likes measuring  :peepwall: :pot:


The world was created from chaos, and look what  a beautiful place it is  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 24, 2019, 02:39:11 pm
Kom mooi aan.... trots op julle TWINS  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 24, 2019, 03:42:03 pm
Kom mooi aan.... trots op julle TWINS  :laughing4:

Ten spyte van, nienas gevolg van nie  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 24, 2019, 08:42:38 pm
Fitting the upper subframe brace, bolted on the crashbar mounts.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 25, 2019, 07:19:30 am
Nou daai is 'n goeie move.. :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 09:05:27 am
Nou daai is 'n goeie move.. :thumleft:


Ander ouens se slimmigheid wat ek mmaar net mooi copy  :biggrin: Ek heg my sidear nes in die prentjie met so paar mods laat dit lyk of ek ook slim is.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 25, 2019, 09:09:33 am
Net 'n vragie.  op post Reply #261le die voorste mounting na voor and die agterste mounting na agter.
Ek dog die idee van die mounting is om die karretjie vorentoe of agtertoe te kan verskuif.
Sou gedink het altwee na voor of altwee na agter om dit te kan bewerkstellig.

Dis maar net die Brakpan vraag...daar is seker 'n Brakpan by die see antwoord op die een. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 09:15:46 am
Net 'n vragie.  op post Reply #261le die voorste mounting na voor and die agterste mounting na agter.
Ek dog die idee van die mounting is om die karretjie vorentoe of agtertoe te kan verskuif.
Sou gedink het altwee na voor of altwee na agter om dit te kan bewerkstellig.

Dis maar net die Brakpan vraag...daar is seker 'n Brakpan by die see antwoord op die een. :laughing4:

Kyk mooi. Die ontwerp is so mo driehoek te vorm vir sterk maak. Daar is twee slide clamps op elke mount. Hy kan vorentoe, agter toe, en in en uit skuif. 3-D verstelbaar Die mounts trek teen mekaar om stabiliteit te gee.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 25, 2019, 09:31:13 am
Het jy dit al verstel en gekyk of dit so werk...veral met daai middel mount.
Ek moet dit eers PRAKTIES sien gebeur..kan nie soos slim ingeneurs 'n simulated version aanvaar nie . :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 09:45:40 am
Het jy dit al verstel en gekyk of dit so werk...veral met daai middel mount.
Ek moet dit eers PRAKTIES sien gebeur..kan nie soos slim ingeneurs 'n simulated version aanvaar nie . :laughing4:

Dit is 'n getoetsde sisteem. Jy gebruik net 'n groot hammer. Maar dit sal nie nodig wees vir verstellings nie Ek sit hom sommer net van die begin af reg aanmekaar. Daai is maar net vir fancy wees dat dit professioneel lyk.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 25, 2019, 09:47:42 am
Nou kom die waarheid uit. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 09:50:40 am
Nou kom die waarheid uit. :laughing4:


… en die prentjie tekenaar het dit goedgekeur, so dan moet dit kan werk.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 07:52:03 pm
Nou gaan ons daai sidecar aanmekaar moer  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 07:54:04 pm
Got the brackets back from welding. Not the prettiest, but it ain't going to break.

Cross brace for the top subframe brace done.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on July 25, 2019, 08:03:37 pm
Hoe gaan die afwerking wees; powdercote of 2k?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on July 25, 2019, 08:08:27 pm
Ek weet lisensies maak nie meer saak nie, maar wat van die voertuig se lesensie.  Enige snags?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 08:09:12 pm
Hoe gaan die afwerking wees; powdercote of 2k?

Nog nie seker nie. Dink aan Hammerrite.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 25, 2019, 08:12:06 pm
Ek weet lisensies maak nie meer saak nie, maar wat van die voertuig se lesensie.  Enige snags?

Dit maak saak vir versekering as iets verkeerd gaan. Daar is 'n proses. Die fiets moet herregistreer word vir fiets met sidecar. Assesment letter van treiler bouer of soortgelyk, roadworthy ens. Net schlep, maar nie probleem nie. Daai deel is klaar in plek en my mense het dit reeds gesort  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 25, 2019, 11:44:01 pm
 my mense het dit reeds gesort

jy klink soos Al Capone!! :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 26, 2019, 08:12:32 am
my mense het dit reeds gesort

jy klink soos Al Capone!! :lol8:

Dis mos nou my proffessie... jy leer die verkeerde mense ken 🤣
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vintage_Mania on July 26, 2019, 08:24:12 am
Dis mos nou my proffessie... jy leer die verkeerde mense ken 🤣

Feite. Ouens uit daai omgewing dreig jou met Gérrard....  :eek7: :patch:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Daffyd on July 26, 2019, 11:28:41 am
 :sip:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 26, 2019, 07:40:12 pm
Bit of my own porn. Today was a good day. The welds just flowed. There are days like that.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 26, 2019, 07:43:58 pm
Today's work. Making and fitting the lugs for the bike stabilizer joints. Now we start with the 10% that takes 90% of the time. It requires painstaking precision and takes my cut and paste method to new levels  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Fudge on July 26, 2019, 08:08:46 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Snuggles on July 27, 2019, 02:02:52 pm
Need some help. I need this part for my build. Its a 12V electric linear actuator, with a handlebar toggle controller. This particular product Part no PA-17-6-2000 is supplied by Progressive Automations in Canada. I already have immigrant on it and otherwise my people are looking.

All help is appreciated as I'm not that sharp on the internet. I have mailed the supplier and Oshkosh found a supplier in SA with similar products. Parker Hannifin. I'm waiting to hear from the also.

Thanks.

Here is a link to an add on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P58WK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybS8Cb3X35SN7
Hi Gerrard, Snuggles here, I was working on one of our Sandvik drill rigs yesterday & I took a photo of the linear actuator & it's data plate, the manufacturer is based in the UK & has a website: https://transmotec.com/product-category/linear-actuators/?gclid=CjwKCAjw7O_pBRA3EiwA_lmtfh9GmtVYN8EPHhtJHGrYM5-92p2-ATGNo28ZW-rQVEfyMaEn_a2ICxoChxMQAvD_BwE
You can just click on the link above, I have one of the guys that works with me flying to the UK tomorrow for his 2 week break, if you want he can hand carry this back to me & I can get one of the other Saffers to hand carry it to SA for you. If you PM me your WhatsApp number I will send you the photos of the actuator on the drill rig, these are quality heavy duty actuators & on the website there are many different size & strength options.
I am enjoying your build thread, keep up the great work.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 27, 2019, 06:17:00 pm
Lower stabilizer joints on the sidecar frame done.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 28, 2019, 07:22:52 pm
Stage one complete. Sidecar frame fixed to the bike. Pleased with it so far, despite a few miss measurements which worked out well in the end... by accident or design.  :lol8:

Tomorrow night it goes on the wheels to test the suspension and send to Superfoxi for a fix up. All the framework then gets stripped for some small finishes, gussets and some welds etc. The 1150 will then also be sent away for a complete drive train rebuild.

Still lots to do. When it all comes back the sidecar goes together for test riding and to build the tub. Then only is it strip down and paint.


Lets build a sidecar they said.....  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on July 29, 2019, 10:00:00 am
Jy vorder by goed  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Kobus Myburgh on July 29, 2019, 06:12:28 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 29, 2019, 06:20:13 pm
Toe ry hy al of eet julle nog snacks met G & T :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 29, 2019, 07:51:59 pm
 :thumleft: Op sy wiele
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 29, 2019, 07:53:22 pm
Happy  :ricky: So far everything right on spec.


Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 29, 2019, 07:55:15 pm
… and the handlanger and chief picture drawer is eager to ride

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: jaybiker on July 29, 2019, 09:37:01 pm
And your bag already packed and strapped to the carrier.  :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 2StrokeDan on July 29, 2019, 10:00:42 pm
Sidecar building I have to try this out.

Gerrard is smiling. :thumleft: :thumleft:

Looking real good!!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Black_Hawk on July 30, 2019, 07:29:49 am
Nou begin dinge darem vinning rigting kry  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 30, 2019, 10:40:48 am
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Daffyd on July 30, 2019, 10:51:11 am
… and the handlanger and chief picture drawer is eager to ride
this will just bolt on perfectly
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 30, 2019, 10:57:01 am
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:

 :thumleft: Daar's al baie ZEN tyd in daai build in. Nou dat hy aanmekaar is let ek op n paar snags wat ek moet uitsort, maar sover vir n scratch bou watbek niks van geweet het nie is ek tevrede.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 30, 2019, 11:04:41 am
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:

 :thumleft: Daar's al baie ZEN tyd in daai build in. Nou dat hy aanmekaar is let ek op n paar snags wat ek moet uitsort, maar sover vir n scratch bou watbek niks van geweet het nie is ek tevrede.
As jou rig myne was het ek nou n 50 liter stainess steel plat watertenk op hom gemount vir ballast en dan was hy klaar ok miskien plek vir nog petrol en miskien n stel tralies sodat my vuurmaakhout nie afval. :deal:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 30, 2019, 11:39:52 am
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:

 :thumleft: Daar's al baie ZEN tyd in daai build in. Nou dat hy aanmekaar is let ek op n paar snags wat ek moet uitsort, maar sover vir n scratch bou watbek niks van geweet het nie is ek tevrede.
As jou rig myne was het ek nou n 50 liter stainess steel plat watertenk op hom gemount vir ballast en dan was hy klaar ok miskien plek vir nog petrol en miskien n stel tralies sodat my vuurmaakhout nie afval. :deal:

Nou wat hou jou terug ? Doen dit.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on July 30, 2019, 12:19:23 pm
Sidecar building I have to try this out.

Gerrard is smiling. :thumleft: :thumleft:

Looking real good!!

G is like a kid at Christmas time, that smile is well warranted, he has put in a crap load of time and thought. (Just no measuring, he hasn't learned how a ruler or tape measure works yet  :lol8: )
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 30, 2019, 12:25:24 pm
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:

 :thumleft: Daar's al baie ZEN tyd in daai build in. Nou dat hy aanmekaar is let ek op n paar snags wat ek moet uitsort, maar sover vir n scratch bou watbek niks van geweet het nie is ek tevrede.
As jou rig myne was het ek nou n 50 liter stainess steel plat watertenk op hom gemount vir ballast en dan was hy klaar ok miskien plek vir nog petrol en miskien n stel tralies sodat my vuurmaakhout nie afval. :deal:

Nou wat hou jou terug ? Doen dit.
As jy dink jy kan nie opmeet moet jy my sien opmeet!! Windskeef en te kort guaranteed!! :deal: >:(
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 30, 2019, 01:45:20 pm
Gerrard is smiling.

Ek het regtig nie geweet hy het voortanne nie!! :peepwall: ;) :lol8:
Jis daai kar lyk regtig smart :drif: :drif:

 :thumleft: Daar's al baie ZEN tyd in daai build in. Nou dat hy aanmekaar is let ek op n paar snags wat ek moet uitsort, maar sover vir n scratch bou watbek niks van geweet het nie is ek tevrede.
As jou rig myne was het ek nou n 50 liter stainess steel plat watertenk op hom gemount vir ballast en dan was hy klaar ok miskien plek vir nog petrol en miskien n stel tralies sodat my vuurmaakhout nie afval. :deal:

Nou wat hou jou terug ? Doen dit.
As jy dink jy kan nie opmeet moet jy my sien opmeet!! Windskeef en te kort guaranteed!! :deal: >:(

Dis die lekker van metaalwerk… jy cut en paste tot hy pas. Einde van die dag moet die sidecar wiel net op die regte plek sit.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on July 30, 2019, 01:47:09 pm
Op die regte plek sit...en daar bly :ricky: :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Laban on July 31, 2019, 02:39:44 pm
... jitte dis nou heel windgat Gert, ek’s volgende week inni Baai kom laai nog Chemo sal graag wil kom kyk na die Sopraan wat hier gaan gesing word...


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Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 31, 2019, 04:11:00 pm
... jitte dis nou heel windgat Gert, ek’s volgende week inni Baai kom laai nog Chemo sal graag wil kom kyk na die Sopraan wat hier gaan gesing word...


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Dag Oubaas, dis nou lekker om van jou te hoor. Kom jy met die sidecar, want ek wil mates neem op die tub ?

Laat weet wanneer jy hier is en ons reel  084 492 7680
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Laban on July 31, 2019, 06:19:07 pm
... jitte dis nou heel windgat Gert, ek’s volgende week inni Baai kom laai nog Chemo sal graag wil kom kyk na die Sopraan wat hier gaan gesing word...


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Dag Oubaas, dis nou lekker om van jou te hoor. Kom jy met die sidecar, want ek wil mates neem op die tub ?

Laat weet wanneer jy hier is en ons reel  084 492 7680

... ek’s Donderdag oggend 09:30 by Cancer Care Sentrum onder deur die brug oor verkeerslig eerste een links... kom haal die bike... ek sien die Onokoloog daarna die Chemo sessie so 3+ ure ...kan die bike na die Chemo vir jou bring so 15:00 se kant of Vrydag oggend... keuse joune Gert... laat weet.. ek antwoord nie my foon nie... 0823504009

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Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on July 31, 2019, 08:51:32 pm
... jitte dis nou heel windgat Gert, ek’s volgende week inni Baai kom laai nog Chemo sal graag wil kom kyk na die Sopraan wat hier gaan gesing word...


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Dag Oubaas, dis nou lekker om van jou te hoor. Kom jy met die sidecar, want ek wil mates neem op die tub ?

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Ons mik vir Donderdag middag.  Vrydag ry ek Thumper bash toe. Ons gesels nader aan die tyd om mekaar in die hande te kry
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Lem on July 31, 2019, 09:19:25 pm
Hierdie is 'n fantastiese thread...een Jupiter projek wat beslis gaan klaarkom en heel moontlik nie spoedig verkoop gaan word nie  :thumleft:

Die sidecar saadjie word beslis hier ook geplant  :thumleft:

Het jy nog die fibreglass moulds van die destydse longrange tenk van daai KLX650? Dit kan dalk dien as deel van die tub?  :lol8
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 01, 2019, 09:19:32 am
Hierdie is 'n fantastiese thread...een Jupiter projek wat beslis gaan klaarkom en heel moontlik nie spoedig verkoop gaan word nie  :thumleft:

Die sidecar saadjie word beslis hier ook geplant  :thumleft:

Het jy nog die fibreglass moulds van die destydse longrange tenk van daai KLX650? Dit kan dalk dien as deel van die tub?  :lol8


Jy vat my laag  :xxbah:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Lem on August 01, 2019, 10:33:23 am
Hierdie is 'n fantastiese thread...een Jupiter projek wat beslis gaan klaarkom en heel moontlik nie spoedig verkoop gaan word nie  :thumleft:

Die sidecar saadjie word beslis hier ook geplant  :thumleft:

Het jy nog die fibreglass moulds van die destydse longrange tenk van daai KLX650? Dit kan dalk dien as deel van die tub?  :lol8


Jy vat my laag  :xxbah:

Nee man, glad nie.

Ek sien uit na die finished article  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 01, 2019, 10:39:07 am
Hierdie is 'n fantastiese thread...een Jupiter projek wat beslis gaan klaarkom en heel moontlik nie spoedig verkoop gaan word nie  :thumleft:

Die sidecar saadjie word beslis hier ook geplant  :thumleft:

Het jy nog die fibreglass moulds van die destydse longrange tenk van daai KLX650? Dit kan dalk dien as deel van die tub?  :lol8


Jy vat my laag  :xxbah:

Nee man, glad nie.

Ek sien uit na die finished article  :thumleft:


My projekte is nog altyd voltooi, soms het ek net die grond werk gedoen en ander het dit klaar gemaak, maar dis altyd voltooi  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 06, 2019, 11:35:24 am
My apologies to the enthusiasts for the lack of updates Just pottering at the Moment fixing up pieces etc while waiting for some shocks from Superfoxi and to see Laban tomorrow to measure up the tub on his car. Then also waiting for a booking to give the 1150 some much needed TLC.

While there is down time I've put the 1150 back together for probably its last trip ( as a bike) to the thumper bash this weekend.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 07, 2019, 03:46:30 pm
Toe  kom kuier oom Chris dat ek bietjie van sy tub met die oog kan steel. Die Oubaas lyk nog sommeer heel goed en vol stories. Lekker gekuier. Sylvo moes ongelukkig by die huis bly die keer.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: NevMcGyver on August 10, 2019, 09:15:39 pm
Haai daar Manne!
Ek was te lanklaas op die forum. Ek's bly ek't besluit om die' te lees. BAIE interessant.
Vinnige vraag... kan mens 'n sidecar op 'n 400 sit?
Ek reken julle sal vir my se ek moet die tub van 'n bamboes mandjie maak om dit lig genoeg te maak... of hoe?  ;)

Ek stel al 'n hele ruk in sidecars belang, maar het nie die moela om nou 'n groter tjor te koop... en in elk geval ek's nog baie lief vir my DRZ ;D
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on August 10, 2019, 09:22:05 pm
Haai daar Manne!
Ek was te lanklaas op die forum. Ek's bly ek't besluit om die' te lees. BAIE interessant.
Vinnige vraag... kan mens 'n sidecar op 'n 400 sit?
Ek reken julle sal vir my se ek moet die tub van 'n bamboes mandjie maak om dit lig genoeg te maak... of hoe?  ;)

Ek stel al 'n hele ruk in sidecars belang, maar het nie die moela om nou 'n groter tjor te koop... en in elk geval ek's nog baie lief vir my DRZ ;D

Ek het al n sidecar op n 125 gesien, dis net n baie ligter konstruksie.
Hier is n paar KLR650's met sidecars op forum, oa Stevo
Die Ural sidecar is elkgeval nie n kragreus nie en doen baie goed.
So bou gerus joy sidecar en noet hom netnie 'over engineer's nie
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Dawid S on August 11, 2019, 08:04:52 am
In NZ.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Fudge on August 11, 2019, 10:34:55 am
 ;)

(http://www.mv-agusta-club-schweiz.ch/img/Interessantes/bike-fr.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on August 11, 2019, 12:13:29 pm
;)

(http://www.mv-agusta-club-schweiz.ch/img/Interessantes/bike-fr.jpg)
hub Centre steering etc etc, all fun except for the passenger😳
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 14, 2019, 04:11:10 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on August 14, 2019, 04:53:48 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on August 14, 2019, 05:17:48 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:
Maybe his welder is a pro...   :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 14, 2019, 05:33:29 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:

Done. Thsi oke built boats that went around the oceans. He pays attention and knows. Did I metion he is German. The craftsmen I admire most. Learned from his father since before he could walk
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Lem on August 14, 2019, 05:37:49 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:

Done. Thsi oke built boats that went around the oceans. He pays attention and knows. Did I metion he is German. The craftsmen I admire most. Learned from his father since before he could walk

O ja...DAAI Duitser  :thumleft:

Hy mag maar weld  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 14, 2019, 05:39:44 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:

Done. Thsi oke built boats that went around the oceans. He pays attention and knows. Did I metion he is German. The craftsmen I admire most. Learned from his father since before he could walk

O ja...DAAI Duitser  :thumleft:

Hy mag maar weld  :thumleft:
.

Wag tot ons die tub doen en hy aluminium weld. Dit sal jou ń natte gee. Hy is n kunstenaar
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on August 14, 2019, 06:00:09 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:

Done. Thsi oke built boats that went around the oceans. He pays attention and knows. Did I metion he is German. The craftsmen I admire most. Learned from his father since before he could walk

No issue G just a comment, its the type of thing we would do, however since you don't have to have 5 Box Files of calculations to back it up, I reckon you are good.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Welsh on August 14, 2019, 06:06:57 pm
At last my real welder is back from his six weeks overseas holiday  :eek7: (fark, I picked the wrong job)

Some porn.
me I would have a couple of holes drilled back from the weld and do a plug weld for reinforcement. :peepwall:

Done. Thsi oke built boats that went around the oceans. He pays attention and knows. Did I metion he is German. The craftsmen I admire most. Learned from his father since before he could walk

O ja...DAAI Duitser  :thumleft:

Hy mag maar weld  :thumleft:
.

Wag tot ons die tub doen en hy aluminium weld. Dit sal jou ń natte gee. Hy is n kunstenaar

They don't make them anymore G, our specialist real top end welders in our German Factories and Construction sites used to be Polish, they have moved on to Norway etc where the can get better rates, vacuum now filled by the Bosnians, they are great guys, but don't fuck them around. :peepwall:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: da PEEG on August 20, 2019, 08:41:40 pm
Da Peeg has a full outfit, ask him for pics :biggrin:

Have spoken too him and know his rig.  :thumleft:

I would have preferred a higher ride for dirt. 

Maybe I need to get more info from "Woody" about fitting an actuator... :scratch:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 22, 2019, 07:57:04 am
Da Peeg has a full outfit, ask him for pics :biggrin:

Have spoken too him and know his rig.  :thumleft:

I would have preferred a higher ride for dirt. 

Maybe I need to get more info from "Woody" about fitting an actuator... :scratch:

Show me pics of the attachment and subframe on the bike. You have to make that higher too. The actuator only raises and lowers the suspension
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 23, 2019, 08:08:42 pm
And then suddenly its done, frames, hardware and mounting brackets. Some tidying and finishing to do and make the brake caliper bracket. Time to start on the tub.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on August 23, 2019, 09:27:07 pm
Looking fw to see what you decide on wrt tub  8)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 24, 2019, 01:34:27 pm
Will make an alu frame similar to the shape of Laban' and then clad it with aluminium. My worry is despite me laying on the metal it seems too light at this stage. With the rolling chassis I'm at 60kg. Target weight is 110kg

With weight distribution at this stage I'm right on the number at around 20% on the sidecar wheel. Accidental design  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 28, 2019, 10:07:32 am
Last night the handlanger and I put the rolling chassis together for a final check. ( He's full of shit, so it helps to let him check. I tend to take short cuts) Just some small things left, like lugs on the subframe for the belly pan and then finish off for powder coating. This thing takes a shit load of nuts and bolts.  :eek7: And then we measured up the tub.

Lots of small things were done in the mean time, like fitting filler and drain plugs for the frames, making bushes to fit parts together, finishing off the swingarm pivot, etc. It just does not stop.

Three months down the line I can tell you this, I've enjoyed myself a lot, but its a shit load of work and time. If I had the cash together at one time, I would have paid Humfree the R125k to put a sidecar on the bike. Its a bargain.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 30, 2019, 05:32:28 pm
Die handlanger was besig
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 31, 2019, 02:01:19 pm
And that is the rolling chassis done. At 78kg I'm not too unhappy. Was hoping for closer to 60kg. Reckon however I'll still come in at 110kg completed.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tom van Brits on August 31, 2019, 02:18:45 pm
Baie mooi, nie n maklike DIY projek nie :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on August 31, 2019, 02:20:01 pm
Baie mooi, nie n maklike DIY projek nie :thumleft:


Laat ek dit so stel…, NOOIT fokken weer nie  :imaposer:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: katana on September 01, 2019, 09:24:47 am
Ek het nou net die gesien...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Sidecar-Trip/Sidecar-2015-Western-Trip/i-JW6zfTJ/0/S/aux%20fuel%20tank-S.jpg)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 01, 2019, 09:47:43 am
Ek het nou net die gesien...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Sidecar-Trip/Sidecar-2015-Western-Trip/i-JW6zfTJ/0/S/aux%20fuel%20tank-S.jpg)

Dis wat Chris L soek. Ek oor weeg self om so 30L ballast tank in myne te sit.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 02, 2019, 08:10:03 am
Everyday I have a specific reason to get out of bed. Why else would you bother if there is no purpose. Today... taking all the bits and pieces for powder coating.  :biggrin: We getting there.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Buff on September 02, 2019, 08:38:26 am
Lekka Jups, that's one moer of a project you tackled but it's looking on point  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 02, 2019, 08:44:12 am
Lyk goed.. jy moet  myne maar ook kom MOOI maak....ek is mos siek en kan nie werk nie  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 02, 2019, 08:53:00 am
Lekka Jups, that's one moer of a project you tackled but it's looking on point  :thumleft:


 :thumleft: Sofar I've enjoyed it very much There was lots of puzzling involved because of the way I work, but it all came together nicely Proof will be in testing, but sofar all the specs are on the number, bar maybe a kilogram or so but lots of guys say don't try and build light. You need the weight if the bike an pull it and the 1150 can. Seems there is good reason Ural build their frames out of 50 pipe  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 02, 2019, 08:55:00 am
Lyk goed.. jy moet  myne maar ook kom MOOI maak....ek is mos siek en kan nie werk nie  :laughing4:

R65k en ek bou vir jou 'n mooi frame  :patch:  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 10Klr on September 02, 2019, 09:31:15 am
Fantastic build, cant wait to see this riding round the 'hood!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 02, 2019, 10:09:25 am
Ek betaal met KAAS  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Tiger8 on September 02, 2019, 02:05:07 pm
Ek betaal met KAAS  :laughing4:

 :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Kaas Bra

BAIE Kaas    :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 04, 2019, 10:38:52 am
Parts dropped off for powder coating. I don't enjoy the waiting. I want it together now and ride it, but there is still a lot to do. In the mean time we tweaking the tub design, hopefully to start cutting and bending next week.

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 04, 2019, 11:22:19 am
Julle is maar swakkerig op die grinding lyk my. :pot: :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 04, 2019, 11:24:05 am
Julle is maar swakkerig op die grinding lyk my. :pot: :laughing4:

Net mooi skoongemaak, nie ge-grind nie.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 04, 2019, 11:31:41 am
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on September 04, 2019, 01:47:27 pm
Saw this this morning at a Cape Dealership we are looking at h/bar supplying bags too, and thought of you, Gerrard, and others possibly, SEEMS to my unpracticed eye to be a lot of bike and sidecar for not a lot of money?


Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 04, 2019, 01:55:24 pm
Sidecar is on the WRONG side
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: zebra - Flying Brick on September 04, 2019, 01:57:28 pm


Quote from: woody1 on Today at 01:55:24 pm (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=237066.msg4309334#msg4309334)>Sidecar is on the WRONG side
yes, I noticed. Great VALUE, though!  ;)


Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 04, 2019, 02:00:56 pm
Wonder how LEGAL it is to ride it like that.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 04, 2019, 06:16:06 pm
Making up the brake caliper mount
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 06, 2019, 06:24:14 pm
Brake caliper bracket done, bar getting welded tomorrow. And at last the frame is done.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 07, 2019, 04:56:13 pm
Got myself a Kombi seat for the sidecar. Needs a refurbish.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 08, 2019, 11:45:11 am
After giving the seat a good inspection I concluded the upholstery was still good, so for now, a good wash and see what it looks like. Maybe just a nice black and grey seat cover later. Hardware needs a clean up and paint, plus need to add brackets to bolt down on tub.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: da PEEG on September 13, 2019, 10:07:05 am
Brake caliper bracket done, bar getting welded tomorrow. And at last the frame is done.


Are you going to remove your ABS unit or just leave it on-board?

I have disc brakes on the tub (working with the front-brakes)

My handbrake is a strip of velcro strap wrapped tightly over my front brake-lever  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 12:33:18 pm
Brake caliper bracket done, bar getting welded tomorrow. And at last the frame is done.


Are you going to remove your ABS unit or just leave it on-board?

I have disc brakes on the tub (working with the front-brakes)

My handbrake is a strip of velcro strap wrapped tightly over my front brake-lever  :lol8:

No.  Bike and sidecar brakes will work independenttly with separate master cylinders of the rear brake lever. No interference with the bikes brakes.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 13, 2019, 12:34:41 pm
Nou wanneer sien ons die karretjie op die pad..met of sonder 'n tub :ricky:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 01:29:39 pm
Nou wanneer sien ons die karretjie op die pad..met of sonder 'n tub :ricky:

Vlg week behoort ek al die parte te maar wag nog vir bike om gedoen te word. Hoop einde Okt.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 13, 2019, 01:49:56 pm
Ai maar julle twee kan DRAAI op 'n projek....julle kan bly wees ek is nie die voorman nie. :bueller:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 04:10:28 pm
Ai maar julle twee kan DRAAI op 'n projek....julle kan bly wees ek is nie die voorman nie. :bueller:

Amper twee weke om die tub te teken want hy bly die ontwerp verander  ::)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: 2StrokeDan on September 13, 2019, 04:22:40 pm
Is daai Kombi-seat nie te wyd nie?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 04:28:15 pm
Is daai Kombi-seat nie te wyd nie?

Nee. Hy's gebou om te pas
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ktmmer on September 13, 2019, 04:32:22 pm
As jy van plan verander oor die kombi seat, dan sal ek hom graag by jou oorneem.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 04:48:36 pm
As jy van plan verander oor die kombi seat, dan sal ek hom graag by jou oorneem.


Nee sorry sal nie. Kyk my vrou is mos bederf… OK, onder andere dat sy weet hoe gemaklik die Kombi seat is en gevra het vir een.  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ktmmer on September 13, 2019, 05:30:16 pm
Is dit die tweede ry opvou seat ?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on September 13, 2019, 05:32:19 pm
Is daai Kombi-seat nie te wyd nie?

Nee. Hy's gebou om te pas

Ek laaik jou denkwyse.  Ten minste weet ek jy gaan nie 'n klein ou poefter tub bou nie.   :laughing4: :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 07:23:50 pm
Is dit die tweede ry opvou seat ?

 Voor sitplek
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 07:25:52 pm
Is daai Kombi-seat nie te wyd nie?

Nee. Hy's gebou om te pas

Ek laaik jou denkwyse.  Ten minste weet ek jy gaan nie 'n klein ou poefter tub bou nie.   :laughing4: :thumleft:

Bietjie groter as n Ural en so bietjie kleiner as julle s'n. Ek het Tiger8 gebruik om te meet om seker te maak hy's groot genoeg
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: chopperpilot on September 13, 2019, 07:31:21 pm
Dink nie die Kombi sitplek gaan pas nie, maar behoort gaaf op die spaarvarkie te wees! :o

En genoeg verkoeling op Mamma se bene! :imaposer:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on September 13, 2019, 08:12:12 pm
Dink nie die Kombi sitplek gaan pas nie, maar behoort gaaf op die spaarvarkie te wees! :o

En genoeg verkoeling op Mamma se bene! :imaposer:

 :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Geel Kat on September 13, 2019, 08:14:50 pm
Gaan die ding nog hierdie eeu loop?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 13, 2019, 10:26:02 pm
Gaan die ding nog hierdie eeu loop?

Hopelik nog so maand of wat. Ek het gemik vir ses maande
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 14, 2019, 03:32:48 pm
Se hy nou...toe hy begin het het ons nie daai 6 maande gehoor nie. :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: GRAVELTRAVEL on September 14, 2019, 06:25:06 pm
Gee die man kans!! Myne het amper 'n jaar gevat
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Oshkosh on September 14, 2019, 06:53:34 pm
Mr.G did you come right with the linear actuator?
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 14, 2019, 07:10:43 pm
Mr.G did you come right with the linear actuator?

Yes thanks. Dont know if anyone remembers Dapper Muis. Built Airheads with Freak. He got a bee in his bonnet to buy a Syncro so I've been given him bit of guidance. He saw  about the project and that I wanted the PA actuator so he bought it for me. Will get it in November. 

Every now and again one is in awe what WD's do for you. Not discounting how generous and helpful you've been  :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 14, 2019, 08:00:10 pm
Gee die man kans!! Myne het amper 'n jaar gevat

Seker omdat dit n BMW bou is  :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: GRAVELTRAVEL on September 15, 2019, 05:25:40 pm
Moet wees!!
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 15, 2019, 05:41:30 pm
Moet wees!!

As jy tips het vir my na drie jaar ondervinding moet jy gee
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 15, 2019, 05:42:19 pm
Moet wees!!

As jy tips het vir my na drie jaar ondervinding moet jy gee


Bv, wat op jou build kon jy beter gedoen het.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 15, 2019, 11:49:39 pm
Gaan die ding nog hierdie eeu loop?

Hopelik nog so maand of wat. Ek het gemik vir ses maande
Hoekom so lank? JJR het syne oor n naweek vasgeplak!! ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 16, 2019, 05:47:57 am
Gaan die ding nog hierdie eeu loop?

Hopelik nog so maand of wat. Ek het gemik vir ses maande
Hoekom so lank? JJR het syne oor n naweek vasgeplak!! ;) :lol8:

Ja nee
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 16, 2019, 05:34:07 pm
Now it starts to come together. My trusty side kick has sent the drawings for the tub off for lazer cutting. Thanks Tiger8.

Got the bolts and nuts back from plating and some powder coat parts. Still waiting for the frame and subframe.

Seat frame has been refurbished and dropped off for covering

And the trail reducer is on its way. Thanks Humfree  :thumleft:

My people in America have recceived the linear actuator and it should be here in Novemeber.

Balls to the wall pappie.  :biggrin:

Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 16, 2019, 07:05:11 pm
What you can also see in the top pic is a complete rear brake system from lever to caliper, when I only asked for the master cylinder. Mahala !

Thanks ButchH.
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Vis Arend on September 16, 2019, 07:53:26 pm
 :diablo_ani_fire: :diablo_ani_fire:

Nou raak dit warm, bevange netjies sover.   :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 17, 2019, 10:29:46 am
:diablo_ani_fire: :diablo_ani_fire:

Nou raak dit warm, bevange netjies sover.   :thumleft: :thumleft:

Nou is dit wag vir my mense om te lewer. Frustreerend. Sit nou maar elke aand in my workshop en kyk vir die lot
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on September 17, 2019, 12:05:34 pm
Nou is dit wag vir my mense om te lewer.

Jy begin al hoe meer na n Mafia boss klink!! ;) :lol8:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 17, 2019, 12:07:21 pm
 :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 17, 2019, 12:38:21 pm
Nou is dit wag vir my mense om te lewer.

Jy begin al hoe meer na n Mafia boss klink!! ;) :lol8:

Daar is mos goed wat ek nie self kan doen nie, so ander mense doen dit vir my  :biggrin:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 17, 2019, 12:39:54 pm
:laughing4:

Lag vir jou gat man. Hierdie is nie 'n scrap yard build oor 'n naweek soos sommige nie  ::)
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 17, 2019, 12:41:05 pm
Sorry my KROON  :laughing4:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 17, 2019, 12:43:33 pm
Sorry my KROON  :laughing4:

Maar ek praat natuurlik glad nie van jou sidecar nie  :pot:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: woody1 on September 17, 2019, 12:44:52 pm
Ek weet jy sal nie want ek ken mense :3some:
Title: Re: My Sidecar Project
Post by: Gérrard on September 19, 2019, 05:05:08 pm
Last of the powder coating and seat redone The rolling chassis is ready to go together but the bike must stil  bedone. Nice long weekend ahead and I ust just sit and wait and look at the sidear..