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Title: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Archangel on June 23, 2019, 10:39:18 pm
Vol

Vol dankbaarheid dat ons so bevoorreg is om die trip saam familie (meestal Pa's en seuns) kon doen.

Vol gate. Darm meestal die bande. En dus is ons bankrekeninge nie meer so vol nie nie en ons nogals gatvol vir tires plug of ruil...  :o

Vol vreugde dat almal dit in een stuk tot by die huis gemaak het.

Allow me to translate for the souties and international readers...

The ride report is simply titled "Full"

Full of thanks for being able to do this ride, fathers & sons.

Full of holes (luckily mostly the tires), leaving our bank accounts not so full.

Full of joy that we all finally made it home in one piece.

Featuring:
Sidney @Sidpitt Pittaway riding a R1200GS
Charles @Spiekman Pittaway (Sidney's eldest son) riding a XT660Z Tenere
Brent @Brentpitt Pittaway (Sidney's youngest son) riding "Oom Chris se" R1200GS
Johan @MellowJo Kroes riding the R1150GS called "Great White"
Godfried "Dagga" Kroes riding his Honda CB250 (Johan's younger brother)
Gabrieltjie @Archangel De Beer-Kroes (Johan's only son) riding Johan's R1150GS called "Oupa". More details on the name, later in the story...  ::)

We'll try to do this thing in something that resembles chronological order, so we'll start with the planning or prologue part, coming soon to a forum/thread near you.  :ricky:

Some brief teazers...

Some of this
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCnc9fMP/The-Crew.jpg)

A bit of that
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dPndD1R/Nog-Plugs.jpg)

Ouch, some of these guys
(https://i.postimg.cc/43CYFb3q/Blougat.jpg)

More of this
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMwtXbjR/Tire-Finger.jpg)

But mostly, a lot of this...
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1NkRF9L/Pofadder-100km.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: eberhard on June 24, 2019, 06:36:42 am
Vertel, vertel!
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Matewis on June 24, 2019, 08:15:15 am
SUBSCRIBE!!!!
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 08:17:06 am
 :ricky:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Lem on June 24, 2019, 09:21:10 am
Gabriel, het jy nie meer jou 950adv nie?
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 24, 2019, 10:35:08 am
OK, let us give a little context …………..

In 2015, the same group did our first "Dads & Lads" tour , that time around Lesotho
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=172612.0

Since then, 4 x grandchildren were born, which made bike trips a little difficult to sell to management …  :imaposer:

But eventually Sidpitt pushed the right buttons and this trip was born ……

The route was a circle around the Karoo, basically starting at Carnavon, then up to Verneukpan, Kenhardt, Pofadder, Klein Pella, Aggenys, Gamoep, Hondeklipbaai, Calvinia and ending at Sutherland …..


Google maps do not want to play along today, but the pic will give a rough idea of the route ….
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 10:39:42 am
Het jy sommer SITE VISITS ook gedoen :3some:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 24, 2019, 10:41:13 am
Day 0

On Saturday, the two groups aimed to meet at Carnavon, Group North started in Bloemfontein while Group South started in Melkbosstrand.

Group South took a route via Ceres, Oubergpas, Sutherland, Fraserburg and eventually ending at Carnavon ( about 580km according to Google Maps)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 11:29:18 am
OK, let us give a little context …………..

In 2015, the same group did our first "Dads & Lads" tour , that time around Lesotho
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=172612.0

Since then, 4 x grandchildren were born, which made bike trips a little difficult to sell to management …  :imaposer:

But eventually Sidpitt pushed the right buttons and this trip was born ……

The route was a circle around the Karoo, basically starting at Carnavon, then up to Verneukpan, Kenhardt, Pofadder, Klein Pella, Aggenys, Gamoep, Hondeklipbaai, Calvinia and ending at Sutherland …..


The initial plan was to go to Swaziland, but the Capies managed to convince the remainder of the crew that it's a bit out of the way, after which this Karoo/Namaqualand route was conjured up.  :thumleft:

Day 0 1

On Saturday, the two groups aimed to meet at Carnavon, Group North started in Bloemfontein while Group South started in Melkbosstrand.

Group South took a route via Ceres, Oubergpas, Sutherland, Fraserburg and eventually ending at Carnavon ( about 580km according to Google Maps)

Ek dink "Day 0" was Vrydag 14 June, to Charles van Pretoria af gery het?
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 11:33:58 am
Het jy sommer SITE VISITS ook gedoen :3some:

Aeries & Aggeneys  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: woody1 on June 24, 2019, 11:37:33 am
Ek het geweet !!! :laughing4:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 12:43:10 pm
Die official dynamics en naam van die trip het ook 'n paar keer verander. Die invitation was redelik wyd, maar soos dit tyd nader gekom het, het die realiteit sy tol geeis en op die ou einde was dit pretty much die "Dads & Lads, Take 2" deur die Koue Karoo.

Little did we know that it happened to be the "Vries jou gat af Fees" (https://www.facebook.com/Vries-jou-Gat-Af-Fees-173393366807562/) in Sutherland on the 15th of June when MellowJo and myself passed through there... (Yes, it's a real thing)

(https://scontent.fcpt8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49158423_342569739889923_4485220315554643968_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fcpt8-1.fna&oh=375ecec2bd8d4ddb233ea7d2756c8fdb&oe=5DC5DCBF)

I promptly made this our trip logo, but I digress. So let me gather my thoughts and start at the beginning...

Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 01:04:21 pm
Friday 14 June (I'll stick to dates, as we already have some differences in opinion on what day should be "Day 0")

Spiekman left Pretoria at roughly 10h30 and sent us all this pic of him hitting the gravel road towards Kroonstad.

(https://oi1137.photobucket.com/albums/n508/gabrielkroes/Spiekman1.jpeg)

Which prompted a flurry of pics that resemble work, but actually shows very little productivity.  :imaposer:

MellowJo approving some invoices,
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1stzWcH/Jo-Work.jpg)

Brent printing some last stuff,
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8qjdcCL/Brent-1jpeg.jpg)

Counselor Pittaway in his meeting
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8PXfYVT/Sid-Work.jpg)

and myself trying to look busy!
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JsrKrHD/Gab-Work.jpg)

Weather was looking frisky...
(https://i.postimg.cc/4dWNZzJJ/Sutherland-Weather.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Grunder on June 24, 2019, 01:08:49 pm
Friday 15 June Friday 14 June (I'll stick to dates, as we already have some differences in opinion on what day should be "Day 0")

Fixed  ;)




Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 01:15:21 pm
Before I continue, I'll take a moment to reflect on the riding situation here and thank the Dads part of this trip.
Both Brent and Charles Spiekman were riding bikes that technically belonged to Sidney and I was riding a bike that belonged to my Dad. So here's a big THANK YOU for being awesome Dads.  :thumleft:

That said, for the sake of sanity and not being overly grammatical about this, I'll refer to each bike associated to the rider, with the exception of Brent, who's 200k km, R1200GS happened to run big end bearings the week before the trip. As it happened, Sidney's helping out Oom Chris and they came to an agreement and Bob's your uncle, Brent was riding Oom Chris' R1200GS for this trip. Or at least the first part of it...  :peepwall:

We also realised that at this point in time, Brent was the only "Lad" left, as the rest have all become Dads since our last trip. Should we rename the group to "Dads & Lad" ?
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: KaTooMatt on June 24, 2019, 01:21:36 pm
Am I the only one who can't see the photos in post 1, 11 and 12? I am on Firefox.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Grunder on June 24, 2019, 01:22:34 pm
Am I the only one who can't see the photos in post 1, 11 and 12? I am on Firefox.

I can see all the pics except the ones in Post #12
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 01:23:57 pm
Some of the other pre-trip work included a new rear wheelbearing on Jo's 1150.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5rS6DGM/Wheel-bearing.jpg)

Packing arrangements
(https://i.postimg.cc/HWKd2WnP/Packing.jpg)

Helmet repairs
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkZdB96c/Helmet.jpg)

And "Should we bring a tent" was discussed at length...
(https://i.postimg.cc/K87bxnNd/Packing1.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 01:24:58 pm
Am I the only one who can't see the photos in post 1, 11 and 12? I am on Firefox.

I can see all the pics except the ones in Post #12

Just try a refresh, as I'm moving the pics around to the right places in the wording...  :thumleft:  Let me know either way, so that we can fix it, thanks!

PS. I'm posting the pics as attachments and then going back to the post and embedding them between the text. That way I can host the images on WD instead of other hosting sites, and get the benefit of having them where I want, rather than just all at the end of the post.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Cracker on June 24, 2019, 01:51:12 pm
Nope, I can't see them either ........................ and I've absolutely no idea how to fix it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: eberhard on June 24, 2019, 02:38:55 pm
Nou sien ek dit dubbel, maar kan nog nie die voriges sien nie. Die spanning en afwagting hoop op.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 24, 2019, 02:40:59 pm
i can ONLY see pics in post #9 - none of the others....

Maybe change to PostImages to host them - it's the easiest imo.....
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: KaTooMatt on June 24, 2019, 02:49:48 pm
i can ONLY see pics in post #9 - none of the others....

Maybe change to PostImages to host them - it's the easiest imo.....
/quote]

Same boat can see posts nine and the post of the repost.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 03:15:03 pm
Nou sien ek dit dubbel, maar kan nog nie die voriges sien nie. Die spanning en afwagting hoop op.

Pause for effect...  :imaposer:  Laat weet of die kiekies nou opdaag op julle skerms?
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 24, 2019, 03:21:46 pm
Nou sien ek dit dubbel, maar kan nog nie die voriges sien nie. Die spanning en afwagting hoop op.

Pause for effect...  :imaposer:  Laat weet of die kiekies nou opdaag op julle skerms?

EINABLIKSEM!!!

Ja - ek kan nou sien, alhouwel ek wens ek kon nie.....
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: eberhard on June 24, 2019, 03:25:21 pm
Ek kan sien, ek kan sien! Lekker man  :thumleft:

Gooi nog foties.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: eberhard on June 24, 2019, 03:27:01 pm
Ek smaak die Gene Simmons ene.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Black_Hawk on June 24, 2019, 03:53:42 pm
Die lyk asof dit 'n baie lekker en interesante trip was, altans 'n verlore beursie is mos 'n teken dat dit 'n lekker trip was. Ek het ook al so een gehad  :pot:

Baie dankie vir die deel en ons wag in spanning vir die res.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 24, 2019, 03:55:38 pm
Anyways, Spiekman made it to Kroonstad and helped Sidpitt to load two R1200GSes on the back of their trailer and clapped it to Bloem where they would meet up with Brent.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sx8jGsQq/Trailer.jpg)

Now this trailer has a rich history as far as "Dads & Lads" go, including a proper breakdown and repair in Lesotho.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy3ZNp2K/085_Trailer_spring.jpg)

Arriving in Bloem (yes, they made it), you can see some "organized chaos" commencing...

(https://i.postimg.cc/8PJPQJxS/Chaos.jpg)

Brent just wanted to check that he fits in his sleeping bag!

(https://i.postimg.cc/nVwcPYR2/Brent_slaapsak.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 24, 2019, 03:59:15 pm
Lekke wag vir die res!! :thumleft: :drif:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 24, 2019, 04:17:27 pm
AAAAnd, so at last on Saturday 15th (Day 0/1/??) team South also eventually started on a very cold morning ....

Halfway to  Malmesbury I had to stop to put on my rain jacket, it was freezing ...
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 24, 2019, 04:25:55 pm
As I said, our plan for day 1 was to breakfast at Ceres, snack at Tankwa padstal, them up Oubergpas, Sutherland, Fraserburg and on to Carnavon .....

Here we popped over the Berg river at Zonkwasdrift ...
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 24, 2019, 04:39:54 pm
Stopped for a pic at the Tankwa padstal, and charged towards Oubergpas ....
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: KaTooMatt on June 25, 2019, 09:23:21 am
Awesome. I enjoyed your last Ride Report and now I can enjoy this one.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 25, 2019, 10:32:09 am
And so, just after this stop, I started to feel the rear end of my bike weave around the road.

We stopped, checked and although it was flat, had many small cut marks, could not find the leaking hole.
Pumped up the wheel to 2 bars, and climbed out the Ouberg pass ....

No matter how many times I stop here, this stay a spectacular view !!!  :3some:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 25, 2019, 10:37:11 am
We continued on to Sutherland where we filled with fuel and I put some more air into the rear tyre.

Now we could feel and see the leak, which I then plugged.

It was about 14h00-14h30 when we left Sutherland for Fraserburg and we thought that we would reach Carnavon by 17h00
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: MellowJo on June 25, 2019, 10:39:11 am

And now its time for Arch to start his litany on rear wheel punctures .....   :spitcoffee:   :sip:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Strandloper on June 25, 2019, 11:49:48 am
Wag in spanning
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Edgar on June 25, 2019, 01:38:47 pm
Ja, gooi nog, ons kan nie wag om die res te sien/hoor nie  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 03:26:28 pm
Bietjie besig vandag, sal vanaand probeer update.

Kom ons sę maar net, 'n groot deel van die trip vorentoe het soos hierdie gegaan...

Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Battlestar on June 25, 2019, 04:37:39 pm
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Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 08:19:31 pm
OK, so kom ons kry eers Sid, Spiekman en Brent se kant van die storie up to date...

Team North left Bloem early(ish) (or VERY early in Pittaway time), ready for the road ahead!

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdv55q7s/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-10-42-38.jpg)

First stop was somewhere close to an old Shell garage sign?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6QJzCCH2/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-10-43-22.jpg)

Some bridge that I have no idea where it was... Will update when the info comes through.  :imaposer:

(https://i.postimg.cc/SRsGmdK5/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-10-43-49.jpg)

Quick stop and a swing of the hip flask, somewhere between Luckoff and Hopetown.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xjxRtwxS/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-10-43-50-2.jpg)

Liquid courage...

(https://i.postimg.cc/0QZfgF9D/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-10-57-22.jpg)

40 km from Prieska, making steady progress...

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FDBSLKw/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-13-19-11.jpg)

Apparently "amper daar"...

(https://i.postimg.cc/cJxtqHCk/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-16-34-32.jpg)

And then Brent had his first puncture of the trip on a 400km old Heidi, starting a topic that ran throughout the remainder of the trip and is yet to be settled.

(https://i.postimg.cc/G2N4sxQ6/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-16-57-29.jpg)

Apparently these tubeless tires can be fixed quickly and efficiently next to the side of the road?  :patch:

(https://i.postimg.cc/263q6K44/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-16-57-33.jpg)

But without too many other hickups, they made it to Carnarvon by around 17h30, which was the designated central meeting point for teams North & South.

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2TQ3rZj/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-17-44-18.jpg)

Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 08:44:13 pm
Btw, somebody conveniently left out that we had to stop just before Ouberg to pump up this guy again.

(https://i.postimg.cc/P5p8zxJB/20190615-124201.jpg)

After Jo fixed his tire in Sutherland, we dropped a message on the WhatsApp group at around 3pm saying that we're leaving Sutherland and should be in Carnarvon at around 17h. Little did we know what we're up against!

As quickly as we left Sutherland, Fraserburg popped up and we briefly stopped to ask a lady how far the T-junction towards Carnarvon was from the town. Taking the only real road leaving town towards Loxton/Carnarvon at around 16h with the sun setting behind us (winter sunsets in this area is around 17h45), we had our hopes on being in Carnarvon within the hour. Being a bit tired of the fist day's riding (it turns out we're unfit and the daily commute doesn't quite work the same muscles) and with the road in the seemingly good condition, we unintentionally upped the speed to shorten the last stretch.

We were so close, I could almost taste the beer! So much so that I actually started driving like I was drunk, weaving from side to side on the road. Or wait, maybe my rear wheel is flat? Jip. Our 3rd flat for the group on the 1st (2nd?) day.

Needless to say, there's no cell reception on this road between Fraserburg / Loxton /Carnarvon, so we couldn't really give the rest of the team a heads up on our delay.

We fixed what we thought was the hole, pumped it up and went on our merry way, which lasted an entire 300m, before it was completely flat again.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NM1680Jg/20190615-161411.jpg)

I parked the bike on a little ridge to gain some height for the tire repair. During this 300m stretch, I also realised that when pushing the bike of the centre stand, the front wheel dug into a sand ditch and broke the speedo cable, so this was the last time on the trip that I had an odometer or speedo.  :xxbah:

(https://i.postimg.cc/brpQmjW1/20190615-164334.jpg)

And so commenced the process of what we thought would be another 5 min stop to plug the next hole. But it wasn't to be...

(https://i.postimg.cc/3JrXpYgT/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-22-37-10.jpg)

And so, as the shadows were getting longer, with Carnarvon turnoff in the distance...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNFttbyx/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-22-37-47.jpg)

We made a call that Jo would ride to Carnarvon to go a get help, as this tire was obviously beyond repair. No amount of plugs would keep air in this guy.  :-\
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 09:20:32 pm
So I think to myself, it's about 17h15 when Jo left to find help and it's approx. 110km to Carnarvon, so I'm guessing he'll get there at around 18h30 (riding the last 30 minutes in the dark), get a tire or tube or bakkie or something, leave at around 19h and hopefully be back at the intersection at around 20h.

Having time to kill and not much else to do, I pushed the bike down to the T-junction.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qRfcCKGb/20190615-173254.jpg)

Note the helmet behind the bike, as I recently learnt that this is the internal distress signal.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DwMPnH4K/20190615-173312.jpg)

It doesn't help much if nobody passes by though...  ;D

These high flying business guys didn't want to stop for me either.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MGcHJrVN/20190615-173224.jpg)

And without any big announcement or even somebody to share the Karoo sunset with, it was dark and quiet.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CKnH17bn/20190615-182337.jpg)

At this point, the temperature dropped very quickly and after moving my bike to a safer spot out of the road, I unpacked my gear, got into my sleeping bag and realized that I can't actually remember the detailed plot of Racheltjie De Beer.

A brief logic test of my vulnerability yielded the following:
It's too cold for snakes.
There are no people in a 30km radius, so human threats are limited.
Wild animals in this area include small dear, tortoises, hares, foxes/jackals and sheep, none of which are real threats to humans.

With the safety factor settled in my mind, I thought about what else I could do to better my situation. Statistically speaking, waiting at the agreed place yields the best results and provides the most likely opportunity of being helped. Could the other guys see where I am on the GPX files? Or was it the kml file? What's the difference between kml and kmz anyways? And why do they use three letters to denote file types, such as pdf, exe and so on? 26 letters in the alphabet yielding 26 to the power 3, or 17 576 different file types. And somewhere on my way to that number, knowing that I couldn't do more to aid my own situation, I fell asleep.
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 09:39:48 pm
On the other side, things were not so peaceful, as they had a rescue mission under way...

Sid, Spiekman and Brent obviously realized that something was up and Sid was pacing up and down the Carnarvon hotel, trying to figure out what to do. Spiekman tried to calm the situation, but by 18h30, Sid was ready to get on his bike and hit the road to come and look for us.

Meanwhile, Jo has been in town from about 18h20 and the people at the petrol station pointed him to the Carnarvon hotel where they said the other bikers were staying. But when he got to the Carnarvon hotel, the music was pumping with a local 21st birthday party and there were no signs of bikes, so back to the garage where he could pull out his phone and look at the messages. Jip, back to the hotel and as he stopped there, Sid happened to come out the front door, almost ready for his "Search and Rescue" mission.

A quick evaluation of their options pointed towards getting a recovery vehicle, as tire repair or replacement options were unfruitful. "Julle kan my bakkie leen", says the lady behind the bar, who also happens to run the hotel. "Hy's bietjie hoog, maar hy sal mooi loop. Julle moet net petrol ingooi, hy's bietjie laag op die oomblik." It's an early 90's single cab, 1 Tonner Nissan Hardbody bakkie with high railing (like those used to transport sheep) all around the bak and lifted suspension. Lifting the bike onto the bakkie would be a mission, so they wanted as many guys as possible, but they can't all fit into the cab and sitting on the back was likely to result in hypothermia. The executive decision was made and Jo would take Sid with on the recovery drive, leaving Carnarvon with a full tank at around 19h.

Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 10:00:06 pm
Not wanting to leave me out in the cold for too long, some of the communication was quite cryptic and as a result, Brent and Charles didn't really get the picture of how far Sid and Jo had to drive to come and retrieve the hampered steed and it's rider. By 21h the conversation between Spiekman & Brent went something like "Gab, Sid & Jo are the 3 most resourceful people we know. If they can't fix it or bring it back, there's no way we can change that. Our only option is to take sleeping bags, coffee and sarmies, so they are hot, fed and don't sleep out there alone"  :3some:

Meanwhile, Sid & Jo rocked up at the T-juction at just after 20h and rudely woke me from my peaceful sleep with a "Hey, soek jy dalk 'n lift?"

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fBsBv44/15th-A-Sleeping-Dog.jpg)

They scouted a spot and drove the bakkie over a side of the road into a bit of a ditch, so that we can use the road sidewall as a ramp to get the bike onto the back.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Vs0Bmmjs/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-22-38-35.jpg)

It worked like a charm by roughly 20h30, we were loaded and ready to hit the road back to Carnarvon.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CLyCKXNG/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-22-46-38.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol/Full - The Dads & Lads Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 Ride Report
Post by: Archangel on June 25, 2019, 10:12:45 pm
So we jammed three people (totaling well over 300kg) onto the front bench-type seat. Jo was driving with his right arm only, I was in the middle with my legs over Skoonpa Sid's legs towards the passenger side and I had to lift my but for every gear change, but even with lifting, we could only get 1st, 3rd and 5th. As it turns out, those Nissans don't have great lights, but the lifted suspension made up for the lack of vision. Even so, it was the longest 100km's I've ever had to endure. Just before 22h we rolled into Carnarvon and the ceremonious beers and steak welcomed us at the hotel. Finally the bulk of the crew was together, only missing Godfried that would join us the next day.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCMjPdsN/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-15-at-22-24-19.jpg)

The welcomes were quickly replaced with stories of "what could have been" if things didn't work out or "what we should have done" to prevent this from happening. All in all, this trip started true to the theme of any Kroes/Pittaway holiday:

It's not an adventure, until something breaks.

And that, ladies and gentleman, concludes Day 1 of our trip, including a mere 4 punctures (give or take...  :ricky: ), a complete breakdown, sleeping next to the road, and finally the recovery.

Did this trip peak too early? Or was there more adventure to come?
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Black_Hawk on June 26, 2019, 07:53:31 am
Klink my julle het omtrent 'n opwindende eerste dag gehad. Bly om te hoor almal het veilig by hulle bestemming uitgekom  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 08:11:37 am
Note to myself....

Myself moenie saam met Johan en Sid se groepie ry nie....nooit nie....hoor jy  :3some: :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 26, 2019, 08:14:01 am
En daai Staal Bruggie is net buite Oranjeville oor die Vaal Dam - well, a small piece of the Vaal dam anyway.....

En eks stem saam met @woody1

Just saying.....

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 08:15:59 am
Ek het Mei ook daar rondgery met die sidecar.
Gelukkig het die Bridgstone Run Flat agter en die Harley Davidson voor band daai klipperige paaie kon oorleef.
Wel 'n klip wat my sump a klein gaatjie ingeslaan het maar net so 10 druppels olie gelek het toe ek in Sutherland oorgeslaap het.
Die run flat het tussen Laingsburg en Ladismith pap geraak, maar ek kon hom ry tot in Ladismith en daar 'n proppie ingesit. :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Battlestar on June 26, 2019, 08:16:23 am
Well if day one sets the tone for the rest of the trip this is going to be an EPIC RR
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Sidpitt on June 26, 2019, 08:21:27 am
Note to myself....

Myself moenie saam met Johan en Sid se groepie ry nie....nooit nie....hoor jy  :3some: :ricky:

Teensy jy wil leer hoe om probleme op te kos!!!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Sidpitt on June 26, 2019, 08:22:46 am
...op te "LOS"
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Archangel on June 26, 2019, 08:41:08 am
Note to myself....

Myself moenie saam met Johan en Sid se groepie ry nie....nooit nie....hoor jy  :3some: :ricky:

Jy's nie die eerste ou wat dit sę nie.  ::)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 08:47:40 am
Sien julle....sommige mense WIL maar sukkel... ek is op my oudag te sag  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Brucet on June 26, 2019, 08:54:24 am
Awesome.

Excuse the novice question but why would you get so many flats here? Was it just unlucky or crap tires?

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Archangel on June 26, 2019, 09:49:24 am
Awesome.

Excuse the novice question but why would you get so many flats here? Was it just unlucky or crap tires?

I had a TKC80 on the rear and we knew that this would be the last trip for this tire, but on Day 1, it was still in relatively good condition. Brent's Heidenau K60 Scout was brand new and Jo's Heidi K60 was probably about 60% spent, but still in OK condition too. I guess the roads just had many sharp rocks and perhaps we were a bit unlucky.  :dontknow:

Anyways, after my flat, Jo's comment was "Get a Heidi", not knowing that Brent already had a flat on his brand new Heidi.  :lol8:

I've always tripped with tubed tires, as my feeling was they can generally be repaired. Sure, it takes more time and effort, but you are less likely to be stranded next to the side of the road like this. I had a spare tube at home, but after all the promises of what tubeless tires should be, I tried to embrace it and left the tube at home. This was my first trip with tubeless tires and they confirmed what I have long feared...  :dousing:

So for all those believers in tubeless tires or for those who claim that tubeless is a game changer in ADV bikes, my take is that they are in fact a game changer in the wrong direction IMHO. But hey, that's just my take on it...
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: eberhard on June 26, 2019, 09:57:22 am

I've always tripped with tubed tires, as my feeling was they can generally be repaired. Sure, it takes more time and effort, but you are less likely to be stranded next to the side of the road like this. I had a spare tube at home, but after all the promises of what tubeless tires should be, I tried to embrace it and left the tube at home. This was my first trip with tubeless tires and the confirmed what I have long feared...  :dousing:

So for all those believers in tubeless tires or for those who claim that tubeless is a game changer in ADV bikes, my take is that they are in fact a game changer in the wrong direction IMHO. But hey, that's just my take on it...

+1
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Operator on June 26, 2019, 10:00:37 am
Adventure riding = taking a GS into inappropriated places  :lol8: :lol8: :lol8:

Daai klomp punctures was maar net bad luck.   ;)


 :sip:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Snafu on June 26, 2019, 10:13:42 am
Volg, want ek dink nie dit is die einde ban pap bande nie :)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: woody1 on June 26, 2019, 10:42:16 am
Wonder wanneer ons die bande vir motorfietse sal kry.

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/tweel-airless-tire.htm
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 26, 2019, 02:16:30 pm
Awesome.

Excuse the novice question but why would you get so many flats here? Was it just unlucky or crap tires?

I had a TKC80 on the rear and we knew that this would be the last trip for this tire, but on Day 1, it was still in relatively good condition. Brent's Heidenau K60 Scout was brand new and Jo's Heidi K60 was probably about 60% spent, but still in OK condition too. I guess the roads just had many sharp rocks and perhaps we were a bit unlucky.  :dontknow:

Anyways, after my flat, Jo's comment was "Get a Heidi", not knowing that Brent already had a flat on his brand new Heidi.  :lol8:

I've always tripped with tubed tires, as my feeling was they can generally be repaired. Sure, it takes more time and effort, but you are less likely to be stranded next to the side of the road like this. I had a spare tube at home, but after all the promises of what tubeless tires should be, I tried to embrace it and left the tube at home. This was my first trip with tubeless tires and they confirmed what I have long feared...  :dousing:

So for all those believers in tubeless tires or for those who claim that tubeless is a game changer in ADV bikes, my take is that they are in fact a game changer in the wrong direction IMHO. But hey, that's just my take on it...

Look, I have had maybe 3 punctures in the nearly 200k km of gravel and each time I plugged it in 5 mins and carried on .... in fact my last solo trip I did not even take a pump over the same roads !!! http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=230686.0

On our Lesotho trip in 2015, we did not have a single puncture with the same types of tyres .....

I read in the Kaokoland report that they had problems with mousses .....  no system is completely fail safe ....

I think that Arch was just unlucky, really unlucky .....  :dousing:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 1 complete)
Post by: Mikie on June 26, 2019, 06:08:53 pm
On the no dangerous animals out there part, dont you get leopard out there?

Awesome Ride report  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on June 26, 2019, 10:31:17 pm
After the late dinner and beers, we called around for tires, tubes and whatever else we could find, but it was 23h on a Saturday and most people would either be babelas or in church the next morning. Jacques from KVB offered to help us fit whatever we could find at around 09h30.

Before morning broke on the 16th (shall we officially call this Day 2?), we were up and about, speaking to Jacobus who owns one of the garages and has M&M Wheels and Tires just around the corner from him. Turns out the first M was for Marius, who lives just about 100m futher up the road. He knows that only BMW rider in town, called Pieter Snyman and he'll ask whether Pieter perhaps has a spare tire that we could use. Finally Marius comes back with Oom Pieter's number and the message that he has a tire for us.

Die tannie van die hotel was also trying her level best to help out where she could, so she gave me a lift to Oom Pieter. When we got there, the deal soured a bit, as Oom Pieter realised that we were quite desperate. Suddenly instead of "having to anyways replace his rear tire", the wording changed slightly to something in the line of "I'll give you this one from my bike, but you'll have to pay for a new one that I'll now need to fit" and apparently the new tire of his liking was R2500, so I ended up having to pay him R2500 on the spot for his old Anakee. As perplexed as I was, I didn't have much of a choice. Maybe I'm just not used to being taken advantage of when I'm in a desperate situation?

Oom Pieter smiling all the way to the bank...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MG97HQfQ/20190616-092511.jpg)

The the hotel tannie (I somehow can't remember her name) was so pissed off with Oom Pieter for ripping me off, that she wanted to redeem the town and conveniently remembered that Kef who fits tires for Jacques at KVB still owes her money. She doesn't know where he lives in the informal settlement, but she knows what car he drives. She didn't give me much of a choice, so I accompanied her to go and find Kef at his house, which we did without much trouble.

So now I have an overpriced rear tire and an underpaid fitter. All we need is for Jacques to unlock his posse so that the job can get underway...

(https://i.postimg.cc/N0KM89PT/20190616-093932.jpg)

You'll also see the BMW of Jacobus (from the garage) who popped in to check that we're getting the help we need. All in all it was a town effort to get us underway again (and a lesser extent fund the Snyman Trust).

I need to find a way to get fresh flowers to Carnarvon. Any ideas?

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zbzvmLd/20190616-093653.jpg)

By 10am we were fitting the new tire...

(https://i.postimg.cc/2j2sYc5k/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-16-at-09-52-25.jpg)

And by 11h we were full of hope with a tire full of air and a bank account full of nothing, ready to leave our tire troubles and financial woes behind with the prospect of long dirt roads leading to Verneukpan!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 26, 2019, 10:40:07 pm
En in die hele Carnarvon was daar nie n tube wat kon pas of gators nie? :o
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 26, 2019, 11:04:12 pm
En in die hele Carnarvon was daar nie n tube wat kon pas of gators nie? :o
Oom Chris, die tire was so gaar dat gators nie die ding sou doen nie...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190626/ae057a9590870e0a0aef9b57036f5c54.jpg)

En daar was nie een ander motorbike size tire of tube in die hele Carnarvon nie. Ek het toe maar die ou tire (vir wis en onwis) by Oom Pieter gelos. Hy gaan seker die volgende man weer R2500 charge vir daai stukkende tire ook!

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Oubones on June 27, 2019, 04:59:49 am
Definitief interessante trippie!
Ry lekker saam. :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Brucet on June 27, 2019, 08:36:58 am
We need to all support that Tannie's hotel when in the area.

Pity about the Oom taking advantage but at least you got sorted.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Grunder on June 27, 2019, 08:48:59 am
Baie verkeerd om te judge!!! Ne!!    :pot:


Maar.... daai omie lyk sommer bietjie soos 'n shark met sy Ferrari jacket   :peepwall:


Daai tannie is 'n jewel though lyk dit my  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 09:36:14 am
Btw, I almost forgot. It was Fathers Day! So had some Father & Son or Dad & Lad pics...

(https://i.postimg.cc/HkxGxjz7/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-16-at-08-15-18.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5tK20Z8f/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-16-at-08-26-40.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 10:09:29 am
Luckily the planned route for the day was relatively short, so there was no need to rush.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4xxCdwZ5/Route.jpg)

In the meantime, Fried made some good progress on his own, passing through Clanwilliam just before 09h, towards Verneukpan.

Not too many stops on this route...

(https://i.postimg.cc/BnTCrfR7/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-18-05.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgMMWY4Y/20190616-134709.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQY8tYHZ/20190616-140512.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/W1xhwd5Q/20190616-140532.jpg)

And finally...
(https://i.postimg.cc/BbjgkLG2/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-34-04.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 10:15:33 am
The first order of business was to go and grab some firewood before sunset, so back to the reception, but there was nobody around. We ended up collecting whatever odds and ends we could scavenge.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fRnKqRq0/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-03.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/N0TLJQVL/20190616-160728.jpg)

We chatted to the people at the Campsite and apparently, just the night before, somebody cut the lock...  :-\

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4mGLk3s/20190616-160744.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 10:24:00 am
After dropping the firewood, the inevitable happened.

BBRRRAAAAP! [Videos to follow  :thumleft: ]

And Fried finally made it...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XNPxF8wL/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-07.jpg)

Some more pics, just because it's beautiful there...

(https://i.postimg.cc/kGLcmJnz/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-34-57.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gk6sKZsW/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-00.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5y9BWHds/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-02.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLfcPcF3/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-20-at-11-42-55.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/P5D8cbvt/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-04.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jdm7Z35g/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-17-at-10-35-05.jpg)

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 10:26:00 am
The campsite.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0jZzYZ4f/20190616-175129.jpg)

Or shall I say Trailer Park???  :lol8:

(https://i.postimg.cc/KvvkGSKs/20190616-175118.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fWvSQTb9/20190616-175158.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 started)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 10:29:37 am
Can't ever have too many panorama's of this place...  :thumleft:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nh1QpF25/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-24-at-12-19-57.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 27, 2019, 01:56:49 pm
Arch's SWAMBO says to me ......

....." a month before the trip, it is just trip in the garage and Whatsapp .....
.........then a week on the bikes ...............
.... and now every night on the ride report ... "   :imaposer:

We can never get enough of tripping !!!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 27, 2019, 02:16:29 pm
Although I have been to the Verneukpan before, it stays an amazing place .....

...what strikes me is that until you are physically on the pan, you cannot see the pan .....

Then there is a joke that ...." to the east you can see tomorrow coming, and to the west you can see yesterday leaving ....."    ;)

I shared a caravan with the champion of snorers ..... and vowed not to share a room with him ever again .... without earplugs at least ...   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: ButtSlider on June 27, 2019, 03:01:29 pm
Sub   :ricky: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: Archangel on June 27, 2019, 03:23:49 pm
OK, ek sien nou die ander manne het hulle fotos op ons drive gelaai, so gaan maar nog 'n paar kiekies gooi...

The Campsite

(https://i.postimg.cc/52RZgNPz/20190616-145259.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBn6qwqw/20190616-162456.jpg)

Me and a whole lotta nothing...

(https://i.postimg.cc/q76W5VY5/20190616-164408.jpg)

For whom the bell tolls!

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjM3RrxY/20190616-165558.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: eberhard on June 27, 2019, 06:10:46 pm
Wat gaan die boere nou gebruik om hulle drade mee te herstel?
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 07:36:19 am
Wat gaan die boere nou gebruik om hulle drade mee te herstel?
Seker al die mooi nuwe pale in sy pole yard?

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 28, 2019, 09:05:38 am

So once camp was set up, the lads went for a few spins around the area .......
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 28, 2019, 09:09:10 am

Until the sun set and we came together around the camp fire ......

This was a great day with unforgettable experiences.

I hope Arch can put up his drone video of "riders into the sunset"
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 28, 2019, 09:12:52 am

btw, we had no punctures on this day .......   ;)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 12:41:42 pm
Not the best quality video, as it was very quickly stitched together with some low res vids, but will do a better one when I have some more time.

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: Grunder on June 28, 2019, 12:44:56 pm
Ek kan voel hoe ek ouer raak terwyl ek wag...

Common man!!  Tik vinniger aan die RR man  :lol8:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: ClimbingTurtle on June 28, 2019, 12:47:35 pm

btw, we had no punctures on this day .......   ;)

 :imaposer:   :imaposer:   :imaposer:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Verneukpan Video Added)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 01:11:33 pm
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2 mostly complete)
Post by: MellowJo on June 28, 2019, 01:38:24 pm
Not the best quality video, as it was very quickly stitched together with some low res vids, but will do a better one when I have some more time.


Thanks Arch, this is very nice indeed !! It gives an idea of the magic of the place.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Verneukpan Video Added)
Post by: MellowJo on June 28, 2019, 01:45:55 pm

It was flippen cold, I had the champion snorer in my caravan and something from the menu did not agree with my stomach ......
 ..........  so I did not sleep at all that night ..........

But the next morning was the most beautiful sunrise ....... and we had the prospect of an easy ride to Klein Pella on the Namibian border

Are we ready to start the next day's report ????   :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Verneukpan Video Added)
Post by: Grunder on June 28, 2019, 03:03:16 pm
Lekker video daai

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Verneukpan Video Added)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 03:40:05 pm
Jip, next day here we go! 17 June / Day 3   :thumleft:

This day was Verneukpan -> Kenhardt -> Pofadder -> Klein Pella

(https://i.postimg.cc/DwdBT5jT/20190617-095157.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Ls9v6fwZ/20190617_095922.jpg)

In Kenhardt, we stopped for fuel and quick breakfast. It was also the firs time we had signal. Jo wasn't doing great and opted for a simple piece of toast.  :snorting:

(https://i.postimg.cc/5yYsWVG7/20190617-102906.jpg)

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 03:54:25 pm
By this point, I've become quite accustomed to this new slick tire of mine and was happy that I've had a day and a half without any punctures.   :ricky:

After our Kenhardt brekkie and getting rid of the excess clothing, we hit the road towards Pofadder.

Something else to mention: We were all expecting severe cold and kitted for the Artic every morning and every morning (except for the fist and last mornings) it wasn't as cold as we expected it to be.

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 04:08:26 pm
When we got to Pofadder, Jo gave these instructions: "Koop 'n bruinbrood, botter en 4 Powerades... Naartjie flavoured."

By the look on his face, I wasn't sure if he's going to make it to Klein Pella, as he might be giving birth to another Klein Pella on his way there.  :-[

The remainder of the crew stopped at each and every store we could find open on a public holiday to buy some meat and beers. And ofcourse the bread and naartjie Powerades.  ;D

The road from Pofadder was a stretch of tar before we turned right towards the mountains and Namibian border. This last stretch is an absolute pleasure to ride, with twisty bends, rises and dips etc.

We got to Klein Pella and found Jo in his undies with a relieved look on his face. It was evident that he'd just made it and was doing much better.  :imaposer:

This was initially one of the places we'd camp, but a late change to the guesthouse meant that we slept in luxury!  :3some:

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Room with a view of the mountains and the pool. More on the pool in the next few posts...  :eek7:

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 04:17:06 pm
Nog pics oppad Pofadder toe...

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on June 28, 2019, 04:40:32 pm
In Keimoes, we stopped for fuel and quick breakfast. It was also the firs time we had signal.

Is jy seker dis nie Kenhardt nie?
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Sidpitt on June 28, 2019, 05:47:42 pm
Yip Chris, Kenhardt! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on June 28, 2019, 06:39:33 pm
In Keimoes, we stopped for fuel and quick breakfast. It was also the firs time we had signal.

Is jy seker dis nie Kenhardt nie?

Yes sorry, Kenhardt!

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Lem on June 29, 2019, 12:55:17 pm
Baie mooi video daar op Verneukpan.

So n 1150 bly maar 'n grasieuse ding om dop te hou as hy so op spoed is
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 08:49:52 am
Day 2 and 3 were mostly without hiccups and we were kinda getting into a nice groove. While braaing at Pella, the conversation turned to me getting left in the dark, but luckily it didn't require medical attention, which led to discussion of what to do when something does go horribly wrong. How many people stay at the crash site, who goes to look for signal, what medical equipment we're carrying and what first responder actions should be taken.

It was generally agreed that one of the things leading to accidents are a few days riding without troubles, leading to confidence, combined with fatigue and some complacency.

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 3, here we go...)
Post by: MellowJo on July 01, 2019, 08:55:41 am
Apart from my suspect stomach,  day 3 was pretty un-eventful .....

As Arch said, I hurried from Pofadder to the Klein Pella guest house to visit the facilities ......  :imaposer:  made it just in time :P

The hostess really treated us like kings. Some guys even ventured for a dip in the (very cold) pool.

We had a great braai and nice warm soft beds to recover from the previous cold night on Verneukpan.

Again no punctures on this day  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 09:07:13 am
Day 4, 18 June. Also the day we celebrate Brent's birthday (which meant that he had to wear the birthday suit...  ::) ), but nobody really knows when he arrived here from Krypton.

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Happy birthday, bud!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 09:14:20 am
The plan for day 4 was Klein Pella, Aggeneys, Gamoep, Kammieskroon, Hondeklipbaai.

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After the great breakfast, we packed and were ready to go for a day at the beach!

But first, we had to check out the River Camp on the orange river with Namibia on the other side of the bank.

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And the "date" plantation.  (Cue jokes about Brent being single...  :imaposer: )

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Random Info: Klein Pella export around 95% of their dates to the Middle East and North Africa, with the remaining 5% going to Woolworths (yes, Woolworth get second dibs). The demand is way too big and they simply can't keep up with production. Trees take about 5 years before they start bearing fruit and fully grown, they carry around 120kg of dates per tree per season.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 09:55:07 am
The day's riding was started off great with the little stretch south, back to the tar road and then a short stretch of tar to Aggeneys where we stopped to refuel, as Jo (in his haste of the previous day) didn't fill up in Pofadder. But fuel was always good, as we didn't know if and where we'd get fuel again.

Some areas had these "forests" of trees.  :ricky:

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From Aggeneys we hit the gravel again in a South Easterly direction before turning West again towards the coast.

The going was so good...

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Spiekman was riding infront and was looking for a place to stop. The general agreement was roughly every 100km or every hour. This day had no wind, so dust was a bitch and we kept a big bigger gaps between the bikes. You could sorta see the orange light in the distance, but it often dissappeared behind the rises for a few minutes.

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Charles and I stopped at a T-junction and waited for the rest of the crew to rock up, which they didn't... Mmm, after about 5 minutes we turned back and rode about 8km before finding Brent lying on the ground with Sid and Jo crouched over them. Just when we stopped, Brent jumped up with a "Gotcha!"  :dousing:

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Charles wasn't impressed by the joke, but apparently we were a bit too flexible and 108km was beyond the agreed range and we were too far ahead of the crew...  :bueller:

So out comes the droewors and cokes for a quick pitstop.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 10:03:18 am
From there we pressed on to Gamoep

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PS. We should've listened to that road sign.

And then to Kammieskroon.

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This little twisty track was perhaps one of the highlights as far as roads go on this trip.

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In Kammieskroon, we fueled up again and grabbed a bite.

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 11:22:55 am
The 80km from Kamieskroon was supposed to be a formality and we could almost smell the salt in the air.

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We stopped at this little intersection and Sid said "Give me a moment to ride ahead, I want to take some pics"

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Spiekman, Jo, myself and Brent followed in that order. Sid stopped just on the other side of a cattle grid to try and warn us about this dangerous little rise on a bend.

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Sid, Spiekman and Brent were connected through their SENNA S20 headsets. Jo and I had a more old school approach of "wave like a mad man" to show the following rider to watch out for the hazard. Spiekman, Jo and I went through the gate without issues and Spiekman stopped just around the next corner, as he was going out of comms range with his Dad and Bro. Jo and I came past and he gave us the thumbs up, and a nod to go ahead, which we did. I stopped about 1km further at a place where I could grab a nice video of them coming round a corner, into a dip and out the other side and then waited...

Jo came meandering back at snails pace about 5 min later and the two of us started to make our way back, expecting the lot to have the droewors ready when we get there. The picture looked almost exactly the same as the previous time I came up them, Brent on his back with Charles and Sid bent over him. Except this time he didn't jump up...  :patch:

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 12:16:55 pm
30°18'47"S 17°36'45"E (https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/30%C2%B018'47.0%22S+17%C2%B036'45.0%22E/@-30.3125659,17.6098408,880m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d-30.3130556!4d17.6125)

Brent came round the left corner a bit fast (from the top right in the pic) and you can't see the cattle grid and right turn till you're very close.

From there onward, cattle grids were referred to as Brent Gates.  ::)



Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Black_Hawk on July 01, 2019, 12:24:19 pm
I hope that Brent was OK after he ran out of talent and head his little "oopsie".

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 12:38:13 pm
After some initial assessment, Brent hadn't broken anything obvious, but he was a in a terrible pain. He tried to get up and then fainted into Spiekman's arms and was out for about 30 seconds. Charles and Sid put him back down and just tried to make him as comfortable as possible while Jo and I looked at the condition of the bike.

As Brent was coming up to the "Brent Gate", he couldn't make the right turn in time and hit the concrete slab on the left with his crashbar, exhaust header and pod, spinning the tail anticlockwise before high-siding Brent, who landed on his back and rolled about 4 or 5 times before coming to a stop against the fence about 15m further. The bike flipped over in the process, banging the right side of the dash and handlebars. The frame for the dash and screen was so bent that the bars couldn't turn, but apart from that, the bike actually wasn't too badly damaged.

After about 30min while we were trying to figure out what to do, a bakkie approached and the driver confirmed that he was going to Hondeklipbaai, so we coerced him into taking Brent to the guest house where we could regroup and better evaluate the situation. Spiekman followed the bakkie with Brent in to the guesthouse.

We also used tools form the bakkie to bend Bren't bike into such a state that it could be ridden, checked that the lights were working and hid it behind some trees and damn, from where it could be recovered when we get a chance. From there Sid, Jo and I made good ground and arrived safely in Hondeklipbaai with some 30 min before sunset.

Getting the busted bike back to where we were would open our options for the next day, so after quickly unpacking, I hopped on the back of Jo's bike and we made our way back to crash site, collected Brent's bike and rode into the same sunset for a 2nd time in one day. Only this time, it was dark pretty much just after picking up the damaged 1200, so we took it slow but made it safely back to base in the pitch dark, greeted by cold beers and fresh Fish & Chips.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 12:42:28 pm
Later that night, Spiekman and I were going through the phone and GoPro pics of the day when we saw this...

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Note Sid's skidmark in the bottom of the pic where he also almost overshot the corner.

For those who have GoPro's, you'll know that there's a slight delay in when you press the button and when the actually pic is taken. Sid had no idea that he would capture this. Just a pity that it wasn't a video!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: OomD on July 01, 2019, 01:00:30 pm
That's gonna leave a mark. The bike will buff out, though. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 01:03:25 pm
That's gonna leave a mark. The bike will buff out, though. :biggrin:

And that, ladies & gentleman, is how you paint your ass blue.  :thumleft:  Btw, did we say "Happy Birthday", Brent?

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 01:06:11 pm
Damage to the bike  :-\

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 crash pics added)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 01:16:54 pm
When we just got to Hondeklipbaai, we pooled our meds and phoned a doctor friend to find out how we should go about this. Taking their advice, Sid went to the closest "pharmacy".  :lol8:

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When we finally got all the steeds in the camp for the night.

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After the meals and discussing the day's events, we settled into bed without a proper plan, as tomorrow was our scheduled rest day and we had the entire day to figure out what to do.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 4 done, crash pics added)
Post by: Archangel on July 01, 2019, 03:03:01 pm
19 June, Day 5

I awoke pretty early, quite a bit before sunrise, as I heard some chatter in the kitchen. Fried apparently woke up with the idea of riding his bike back to Cape Town to go and fetch Jo's Tuareg and a trailer for Brent's bike. The plan went through several revisions while I was lying in bed, but the obvious solution to me would be that somebody would ride Brent's bike down to Cape Town along with Fried and then the two could drive back, swapping drivers when needed and without pulling a trailer (leave Fried and Brent's bikes at Jo's place).

Knowing that I would inevitable by the one going with Fried, I was hesitant to pitch what would become the final version of the plan, but in light of logic and efficiency, I took one for the team. Fried was already almost geared up and would leave with 1st light. I had a quick coffee, geared up and followed not long after.

Theme song for the say... "Sunrise, sunset, sunrise, sunset"

Riding while the sun was rising over these pristine gravel roads is really something I can recommend. We never left before sunrise, but it's something I'll consider doing on future trips.

I caught up with Fried while still on the gravel and we cruised together into the sunrise. The last 20km towards Garies is tar, but still very pretty.

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The dash on the bike was busted, but the speedo and rev counter worked, but I had no idea how much fuel I had in or what the warning lights meant, so I filled up in Garies, just to be sure that the bike was full. Fried still had enough fuel and his bike/riding style was a bit slower, so we agreed to move on our own pace and we'd meet up in Melkbos. There's cell reception all along the N7, so we could communicate if the plan needed to change for any reason.

Aware of the long road ahead and eager not to waste any time, we didn't stop for many photos. The fuel light came on just before Clanwilliam, so I filled up there again before gunning it home. The fuel light just blinked as I turned into Jo's place. My 2 stop strategy worked perfectly.  :biggrin:

I let the group know that I was in Melkbos (around 12h) and at exactly the same moment, Fried messaged that he was in Piketberg. This meant that I had about an hour to get everything ready for our return mission, which included fueling up, grabbing some supplies, getting subscription meds for Brent, packing the car and making a coffee for the way back.

As Fried rolled in, I handed him a travel mug and he literally just climbed over into the Tuareg and we were on our way back by 13h30 ish. A quick driver change at Clanwilliam (for no other reason than boredom) and a last change back after turning off at Garies, with the sun setting quickly on the horizon...

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Looking back towards Garies.

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We arrived with last light for the 2nd day in a row, just in time to watch the Proteas lose against the Black Caps. Luckily the crew had made some proper West Coast dinner plans to brighten our day. I'll let Jo tell us what they got up to...

PS. At least we had no punctures on days 4 or 5 either.   :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: DRme on July 01, 2019, 08:10:11 pm
Thank you for RR, Arch.
I enjoy the read and photos.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: eberhard on July 01, 2019, 08:11:25 pm
Wow! Was 'n uiters betekenisvolle en gebeurtenisvolle tog. Ek sal so iets altyd onthou. Goeie foto's. Baie mooi landskap en tonele wat julle kon beskou.  :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on July 01, 2019, 10:02:39 pm
Wow, what a ride this is ... excellent read, thanks!

 8)

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 12:35:39 pm

OK, so with the rescue team on their way to ditch the broken bike in Melkbos and to fetch the car to transport the patient to Cape Town ......

...... we checked the condition of the patient .......   :thumleft:

and then went to look at the sights of the metropolis of Hondeklipbaai .....

"A big gneiss rock resembling a dog inspired Capt Thomas Grace, a ship’s captain who discovered the small natural harbour in 1846, to name the place “Hondeklip Bay”. Some more history at http://www.hondeklip.co.za/index.php/history-of-hondeklipbaai
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 12:42:51 pm

And so the three remaining discoverers rode the few kilos south to look at the shipwreck of the Aristea .......

"Aristea shipwreck, Hondeklipbaai. The Aristea was a fishing trawler for I&J until she was called into duty in WWII as a minesweeper. The Aristea met her unfortunate end on the rocks outside Hondeklipbaai after her captain drunkenly neglected his duties.

The Aristea was built in 1934 in Scotland and she ran aground on 4 July 1945 just south of Hondeklipbaai."
https://hondeklip.com/aristea-shipwreck/
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 12:47:38 pm
It was interesting to see the amount of concrete, used as ballast  in the keel of the ship  (pic above)  .....

........ and to see that the crank shaft only needed a little polish to power the next ship ......   ;)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 12:50:11 pm

It was spring low tide and we doodled around on the rocks and in the rock pools ...
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 12:59:17 pm
And took a few samples from the sea in case of we could not scrape together enough money for fish from the boats ......

We trundled back towards town and later bought snoek from the returning ski-boats ..... this would become dinner

...... so for lunch we each had a few mussels, and toasted samis with peanut butter and bully beef from the local spaza shop ...
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 02:17:50 pm

After lunch and a bit of rest from the heavy morning, .......

 ............ we went for a ride to the light house and the so-called Copper Bay ....
.... here the sand is copper coloured and quite dense (heavy/volume) ....
.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 02:42:23 pm

We had some very fresh crawfish (still crawling), and the snoek  to prepare for dinner ....

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 02:49:13 pm
...and so with the crayfish starter and snoek on the fire ......

.... we had yet another stunning sunset to enjoy .....
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: MellowJo on July 02, 2019, 02:53:00 pm

And we had no punctures on this day  .....   :deal:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 5 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 02, 2019, 09:22:26 pm
And so, with another sunset and we slumbered in, ready to take on the dirt again after our "rest day"  ::)

Before sunrise on the 20th (Day 6), we were up and packing. Brent had his posse in the back of the Tuareg sorted, ready for the long "hol" back to Cape Town with Fried sacrificing the remainder of his trip to aid and abet the criminal in our midst.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9M11gS9z/20190620-073509.jpg)

Hondeklipbaai... So long, and thanks for all the fish.

The plan for the remaining musketeers was to fill up at Garies, head towards the Knersvlakte, then over Helsekloofpas to Nieuwoudtville (thanks to Oom Chris en sy travante) and finally end up in Calvinia.

They day started just peachy.  :thumleft:

(https://i.postimg.cc/76LShLCY/20190620-095152.jpg)

The slightly smaller group of riders meant that the traveling went a bit quicker. We concluded that 4 people is the optimal group size, even though we had to open and close many, many gates...  :bueller:

Spiekman almost took a tumble quite early on. Actually twice. I took over Brent's headset and was connected to Spiekman and Sid for the first time. I was just behind Jo coming up to a deep and steep concrete low water bridge and saw him just making it while bouncing around. I waited for Spiekman to warn him and calmly told him all about this bad boy, without realising that I wasn't connected at the time. Spiekman thought I wanted to take a photo, so he sped up and before it was too late, he bottom'ed out his front and back on the XT, but managed to keep it all together. Lesson learnt. Next, (not too much further) he went through a  badly eroded river bed with some thick sand and steep middelmannetjie. This time he was properly warned and he talked me through his tank slapping over the SENNA. My French isn't quite what it used to be, but I got the picture...   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 02, 2019, 09:46:26 pm
In order to enter the Helsekloofpas from the West, we had to take a stretch of gravel going South along the railway line. We could see the mountain range and road that we had to cross on the other side of the spoor. The train passed while were were riding along this stretch and I felt like a cowboy in a Western movie. Until my steed was once again wounded in the hind leg...  :dousing:

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvkXhrZY/WhatsApp_Image_2019-06-20_at_12.55.46.jpg)

Yeah, that's not going to keep any plugs. We tried, but the tire itself was too soft and flexible and the plugs just popped back out with inflation. R2500 se tire in sy moer!

(https://i.postimg.cc/CxmCb23K/20190620-123537.jpg)

Ah, the familiar sign of my bike without a rear wheel. It's been too long.  ;D

At this point, nobody was stressed and the team was well equipped in dealing "events". Off came the rear and it was loaded onto Sid's bike for attempted repairs with Vanrhynsdorp or Vredendal in mind, accompanied by Spiekman.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MHmfqMxG/20190620-124304.jpg)

Jo and I was to take shelter under the railway, out of the sun for the time being.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxXmhPJd/20190620-153409.jpg)

We had a quick pot of tea before making ourselves comfortable, as we estimated that the crew would be back at around 4pm.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmCVzw3G/20190620-132237.jpg)

Apparently I was asleep first?  ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qRnCDD5y/20190620-154726.jpg)

And there in the distance on the other side of the railway line is the little path over the Helskloof that so dearly wanted to take...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKJyjcFv/20190620-151011.jpg)

But with light quickly fading and not knowing in what condition the wheel will be when they get back, I accepted that this little gem would once again probably stay on the "To do" list...  :'(

I'll let Sid & Spiekman tell their story of the tire repair endeavors.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Sidpitt on July 03, 2019, 10:45:47 pm
We kicked up some good dirt along the railway line to the N7 and onto Vanrhynsdorp where we met the most helpful oake ever!
"Jan Tyre" is a man you can bet your bike on.     He had one look at the pulugged Anakee and raised his eyebrows!
Without hesitation he stared calling just about everyone on his phones contact list and eventually found a brand new tyre for us in Vredendal.

Daar gat ek en 15 mins later staan ek by die eienaar van die Delta handelaar oppie dorp. Hy phone a friend en ons bevestig dat daai tyre slegs op 'n nuwe 1250 sal pas.  :xxbah:
Maar, sy planne nie op nie en hy stuur my na die eienaar van die Continental plek toe waar 'n (omtrent splinter nuwe) Heidenhau in my hand gedruk word met 'n "Daar gaat jy my maat"
Wat skuld ek jou?
"Niks, daai ding het 'n gater in en ek verkoop nie k@k uit die winkel nie! Ek soek nie comebacks nie"

So bek moet jam kry en verseker meer ondersteuning. (Ek beloof om daar 'n "pompie" te gaan kry elke keer as ek daar verby ry) Thanks!


Terug in Vanrhynsdorp sit Jan Tyre vir ons die "nuwe" tyre op ons rimm en toets hom. Hys reg!
Jan Tyre se verder dat hy in Calvinia (waar ons vanaand nog moet gaan slaap) met sy broer daar gereel het om vir ons 'n 2de handse tyre te gaan koop en vir ons gastehuis toe bring.

Blixen Jan, baie dankie!    Wat skuld ons jou vir al jou moeite ?

"Niks man! Ry net lekker en geniet dit" (met die mees opregte smile op sy gesig wat jy aan kan dink)


Daar is min dinge wat my meer impress as 'n man wat sonder moeite iemand anders bystaan in sy tyd van nood nie!  (Heeltemal 'n ander ondervinding as met die Oom in Carnavon)

Die son begin vlou (flou?)word en ek en Spiekman jaag daar uit terug na ons gestrande makkers toe.

 


Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Spiekman on July 04, 2019, 12:16:48 am
Finally getting a gap to fall into the RR. Thanx you Jo, Arch and Sid, the read is so good that even I can't wait to see what happens next.

I'd like to add that while waiting at Jan Tyre with Jan  ;D he continued to work his way down his contacts list to find another back tyre, while doing so one of the contacts mentioned that he just saw a post on a Garries Facebook group that a lady picked up a wallet dropped close to the road by bikers... Jan immediately put me in contact with the friendly lady from Garries and she confirmed my suspicions that it must have been Gabriel's (arch)... even though he had no idea that he had lost it.

Sid then phoned and said he found an almost new tyre (with a gator) that he was forced to take without any form of payment,  Jan then got off the phone and mentioned that his brother found another used tyre for us and will give it to us when we get to Calvinia that evening (it proved to come in handy later... yes there is more). It was at that moment when all these selfless acts made me think of a discussion that took place earlier on in the trip regarding emigration and what type of future lays in wait for South Africa. Although the debate had many sides, one thing was made clear to me in this moment... there is nowhere in the World where you can find people as Lekker as South Africans! Yes sure not all South Africans (Carnavon oopmie) but the lekke people are the ones that keep me here.

Anyways myself and Sid planned to take another route (turned out to be quite nice) back to the railside campers. When we arrived they emerged from their "bende huisie" under the railway with puffy eyes from their maddig slaapie. The wheel was back on in no time and we hit it back to Calvinia. First a little gravel and then tar via Van Rhyns pass (WOW) due to fading light.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: eberhard on July 04, 2019, 06:51:35 am
 :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Oubones on July 04, 2019, 07:25:50 am
Nice trip and proves that there are still some really good people in this great country of ours!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Black_Hawk on July 04, 2019, 07:58:04 am
Always nice to see/hear that there are still good people willing to help total strangers.

You guys had a awesome trip  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Plaasseun on July 04, 2019, 08:13:25 am
Dankie manne vir 'n lekker lees.

Kon nie glo daai Carnavon oom vat julle so vir 'n ride nie, het nie daardie gedrag van 'n fellow biker verwag nie, nou kan die oom ten minste vir hom 'n nuwe jean gaan koop :pot:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 08:58:30 am
So we rolled into Nieuwoudtville bang on sunset and slabbed it to Calvinia arriving in last light.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9Ss8wSD/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-21-at-07-22-36.jpg)

Shortly after our arrival, Jan Tyre's brother rocked up with another tire that we could take with as spare. We invited him to ride with the next day, but he'd just arrived back from a week long rugby tour in Kimberley, so his family wasn't too keen. Next time...  :thumleft:

We checked in with the family with the latest update that we're all safe at our stay-over spot for the night and after a quick shower, we walked next door to DieBlou Nartjie for dinner.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 09:22:23 am
Day 7 (21 June) would be the shortest day of the trip for Spiekman & Sid.

Somehow Jo got his dates and days wrong. He had to be back in Melkbos by Saturday night and therefore planned to give Sutherland a skip and ride back through Tankwa and home instead of sleeping over at Sutherland. Even after realising that there was an extra day available to ride, we committed to his initial plan which meant that we had longer day ahead.

The plan was to go down Gannaga Pass into Tankwa from where Sid and Spiekman would turn East and go over Ouberg to Sutherland (same road we did on Day 1) while we headed straight to Ceres.

As we sat down at our breakfast table, discussing the ride ahead, Spiekman came in with this little wheel he picked up... "Guys, our luck is changing. There's even tires lying in the road now!"

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpsHNksn/20190621-074309.jpg)

I wasn't convinced and packed the extra tire anyways.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LXZ0G3zj/20190621_090947.jpg)

We stopped at the big red postbox for quick pick and were on our way...

(https://i.postimg.cc/D0T5HkfK/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-21-at-11-49-26.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvZ629V4/WhatsApp_Image_2019-06-21_at_11.48.56.jpg)

Jo overshot this corner and by the looks of the sign and the open gate, he wasn't the first...

(https://i.postimg.cc/y6cbPn6H/20190621_112019.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 09:41:28 am
We stopped at the lodge for a quick beer, as we thought we had time on our side.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zXNPPW3R/20190621_120216.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6pnq6ktP/20190621-114208.jpg)

Heading down Gannaga

(https://i.postimg.cc/3whRktwx/20190621_122006.jpg)

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Matewis on July 04, 2019, 09:51:20 am
In order to enter the Helsekloofpas from the West, we had to take a stretch of gravel going South along the railway line. We could see the mountain range and road that we had to cross on the other side of the spoor. The train passed while were were riding along this stretch and I felt like a cowboy in a Western movie. Until my steed was once again wounded in the hind leg...  :dousing:

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvkXhrZY/WhatsApp_Image_2019-06-20_at_12.55.46.jpg)

Yeah, that's not going to keep any plugs. We tried, but the tire itself was too soft and flexible and the plugs just popped back out with inflation. R2500 se tire in sy moer!

(https://i.postimg.cc/CxmCb23K/20190620-123537.jpg)

Ah, the familiar sign of my bike without a rear wheel. It's been too long.  ;D

At this point, nobody was stressed and the team was well equipped in dealing "events". Off came the rear and it was loaded onto Sid's bike for attempted repairs with Vanrhynsdorp or Vredendal in mind, accompanied by Spiekman.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MHmfqMxG/20190620-124304.jpg)

Jo and I was to take shelter under the railway, out of the sun for the time being.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxXmhPJd/20190620-153409.jpg)

We had a quick pot of tea before making ourselves comfortable, as we estimated that the crew would be back at around 4pm.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmCVzw3G/20190620-132237.jpg)

Apparently I was asleep first?  ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qRnCDD5y/20190620-154726.jpg)

And there in the distance on the other side of the railway line is the little path over the Helskloof that so dearly wanted to take...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKJyjcFv/20190620-151011.jpg)

But with light quickly fading and not knowing in what condition the wheel will be when they get back, I accepted that this little gem would once again probably stay on the "To do" list...  :'(

I'll let Sid & Spiekman tell their story of the tire repair endeavors.

Would like to know where this Helsekloof pass is. Traveling to a farm close to the treinspoorpad in September
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 09:59:54 am
As we were descending into the Tankwa, we could see a massive dust storm in the flats. The side winds shook us up properly and the going was as easy as earlier in the day, but the riding was still fun, until around 12h30 when this happened...

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5pY21fL/20190621-125115.jpg)

After plugging the tire twice, we realised that this wasn't going to work, so we stopped to change to the spare tire I'd been dragging along.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NF8Yvc18/20190621-134232.jpg)

After just fitting the spare, we saw that the reason it was removed by it's previous owner was a gaping hole in the side.  :o

Out come the plugs again  :lol8:  We plugged the hole and behold, it stayed plugged. For now, at least.  :peepwall:

(https://i.postimg.cc/656Fpnwx/20190621-140857.jpg)

Jo was all too quick to comment, as our next voyage only lasted about 5km before he too had yet another flat!

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCDDSMLL/20190621-144203.jpg)

By now, we were quickly approaching 15h and the short day turned into a long day without much riding. Sid & Spiekman joked that they can't let us go on our own, as we wouldn't make it to the next turn, so they joined us up to the Tankwa Padstal for a very quick coke, chips and pee break.

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NMwR9x5/20190621-153026.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 6)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:06:52 am
Would like to know where this Helsekloof pass is. Traveling to a farm close to the treinspoorpad in September

https://www.google.com/maps/place/31%C2%B009'17.7%22S+19%C2%B000'10.2%22E/@-31.154927,19.0006333,688m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-31.1549272!4d19.002822
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 04, 2019, 10:13:35 am
Ek kan nie glo die hoeveelheid pap wiele wat julle gehad het?!!! :o
Nogal weird almal agter?
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:14:17 am
From there we said cheers to Spiekman and Sid who headed towards Ouberg while we continued to make our way towards Ceres.

This time, the plug in the TKC lasted a good 10km.   :imaposer:

(https://i.postimg.cc/3NF9HSW0/WhatsApp_Image_2019-06-21_at_17.49.20.jpg)

The 2nd time around, we weren't so lucky as they plugs kept on being pulled or pushed out. We tried to cable tie them into position, which lasted about 5km.

The solution?

(https://i.postimg.cc/HsTBtgPw/WhatsApp_Image_2019-06-21_at_17.51.22.jpg)

Jip, duct tape. Btw, we're in good company here...

(https://i.postimg.cc/NGKpJDgM/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-22-at-09-49-52.jpg)

So any guesses how long the duct tape lasted???
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Matewis on July 04, 2019, 10:16:41 am
Would like to know where this Helsekloof pass is. Traveling to a farm close to the treinspoorpad in September

https://www.google.com/maps/place/31%C2%B009'17.7%22S+19%C2%B000'10.2%22E/@-31.154927,19.0006333,688m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-31.1549272!4d19.002822

Thanx a mil!! Route planning for September just started with a nice twist!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:17:14 am
Ek kan nie glo die hoeveelheid pap wiele wat julle gehad het?!!! :o
Nogal weird almal agter?

Ja hel Oom Chris, niemand kon dit glo nie. Dis my leeftyd se kwota opgebruik in een trip. Ek kan nou met 'n fiets tire ry tot in Cairo en ek behoort OK te wees.

Mind you, Sondag het ek 'n pap wiel gekry met die kar!  :xxbah: Darm is ek nou 'n pro met plugs insit.  :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:18:57 am
Would like to know where this Helsekloof pass is. Traveling to a farm close to the treinspoorpad in September

https://www.google.com/maps/place/31%C2%B009'17.7%22S+19%C2%B000'10.2%22E/@-31.154927,19.0006333,688m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-31.1549272!4d19.002822

Thanx a mil!! Route planning for September just started with a nice twist!

Kan ek saam kom? Ek wil nogsteeds daai paadjie gaan ry. :drif:

Actually, scrap that. You're probably more keen on riding than changing tires...  :imaposer:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:23:30 am
Meanwhile, Sid & Spiekman made some good ground, staying just ahead of the fast approaching storm.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvL3MnXM/20190621-163850.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq1CTJyX/20190621-163907.jpg)

And made it safely to Sutherland, bone dry and without any punctures...  :eek7:

(https://i.postimg.cc/J080kKxq/20190621-173129.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress)
Post by: Matewis on July 04, 2019, 10:30:45 am
Would like to know where this Helsekloof pass is. Traveling to a farm close to the treinspoorpad in September

https://www.google.com/maps/place/31%C2%B009'17.7%22S+19%C2%B000'10.2%22E/@-31.154927,19.0006333,688m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d-31.1549272!4d19.002822

Thanx a mil!! Route planning for September just started with a nice twist!

Kan ek saam kom? Ek wil nogsteeds daai paadjie gaan ry. :drif:

Actually, scrap that. You're probably more keen on riding than changing tires...  :imaposer:

Hahaha meer as welkom. Ry die  langnwk in Sept na plaas net bietjie verder af op treinspoorpad
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: chopperpilot on July 04, 2019, 10:53:47 am
Lekka RR gents! ;)

And a privilege...Dads and Lads! ;)

Pity about the punctures, back to KTM maybe Arch? :o

Any punctures on the Yammie? :o
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 10:57:28 am
Nou ja, met gehoes en geproes het ons die teerpad gehaal, net betyds om ons reenpakkies aan te trek want die druppels het reeds begin val. 8)

And with the beginning of the tar, so came the rain and wind. Add a sunset and it quickly turns into miserable riding conditions with terrible visibility (dirty orange light covers don't help) and a slowly deflating knobbly tire on a slippery, wet tar road.  :-\

We fueled up a Ceres, re-inflated all necessary tires and took on the next stretch. We made it all the way to Malmesbury with that duct tape and we were extremely lucky, as the tire actually just-just made it there.

At Malmesbury, we re-plugged and re-taped the tire, ready for the last 40km stretch home to Melkbosstrand.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0j0JVry7/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-21-at-20-32-51.jpg)

All the road construction, bad light, bad tires, rain, wind, cold and fatigue made even this most boring stretch of road that I'd done 100's of times, very challenging.

We rolled into Melkbosstrand at around 20h30 with the wives eagerly awaiting our return, so that they could offload the kids and take a break, because we've been on "holiday" for a week and it's now our turn, so that they can rest for a change...  :help:

Boots vol water, tires vol gate and hart vol dankbaarheid smile ek met 'n mond vol tanne.  :ricky:

It was a true adventure to remember.   :thumleft:

And with that, I have concluded my part of the RR. I'll get Sid & Spiekman to add their last day.

Dankie vir almal wat saam gery (of gelees) het.

En Paps en Snoonpa - weereens dankie vir die bikes en contribution tot die adventure biking leefstyl. En meeste van als, dankie vir die tyd wat julle saam ons deurbring. Ek sit met trane in my oë soos ek hierdie tik. Nie baie is so bevoorreg soos ons nie en woorde kan nie beskryf wat hierdie "adventures" vir die seuns beteken nie. Veral in vandag se tyd waar Pa's nie "present" is nie en die grootste adventures gewoonlik na die naaste shopping malls of theme parks is, beteken hierdie vir ons meer as waarvoor ons ooit kan dankie sę. So destined to fall short, kyk ek en Charles (no pressure, Brent) ook op na julle en probeer maar ons bes om vir volgende generasie 'n voorbeeld te wees, daar te wees, op adventures te gaan en mense groot te maak wat meer  raaksien as dit wat op hulle mobile screens plaasvind en om 'n valuable contribution tot humanity te maak.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: Dwerg on July 04, 2019, 11:23:18 am
Nice report thanks for sharing  :thumleft:

That crash pic is classic
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: Matewis on July 04, 2019, 11:51:33 am
Nou ja, met gehoes en geproes het ons die teerpad gehaal, net betyds om ons reenpakkies aan te trek want die druppels het reeds begin val. 8)

And with the beginning of the tar, so came the rain and wind. Add a sunset and it quickly turns into miserable riding conditions with terrible visibility (dirty orange light covers don't help) and a slowly deflating knobbly tire on a slippery, wet tar road.  :-\

We fueled up a Ceres, re-inflated all necessary tires and took on the next stretch. We made it all the way to Malmesbury with that duct tape and we were extremely lucky, as the tire actually just-just made it there.

At Malmesbury, we re-plugged and re-taped the tire, ready for the last 40km stretch home to Melkbosstrand.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0j0JVry7/Whats-App-Image-2019-06-21-at-20-32-51.jpg)

All the road construction, bad light, bad tires, rain, wind, cold and fatigue made even this most boring stretch of road that I'd done 100's of times, very challenging.

We rolled into Melkbosstrand at around 20h30 with the wives eagerly awaiting our return, so that they could offload the kids and take a break, because we've been on "holiday" for a week and it's now our turn, so that they can rest for a change...  :help:

Boots vol water, tires vol gate and hart vol dankbaarheid smile ek met 'n mond vol tanne.  :ricky:

It was a true adventure to remember.   :thumleft:

And with that, I have concluded my part of the RR. I'll get Sid & Spiekman to add their last day.

Dankie vir almal wat saam gery (of gelees) het.

En Paps en Snoonpa - weereens dankie vir die bikes en contribution tot die adventure biking leefstyl. En meeste van als, dankie vir die tyd wat julle saam ons deurbring. Ek sit met trane in my oë soos ek hierdie tik. Nie baie is so bevoorreg soos ons nie en woorde kan nie beskryf wat hierdie "adventures" vir die seuns beteken nie. Veral in vandag se tyd waar Pa's nie "present" is nie en die grootste adventures gewoonlik na die naaste shopping malls of theme parks is, beteken hierdie vir ons meer as waarvoor ons ooit kan dankie sę. So destined to fall short, kyk ek en Charles (no pressure, Brent) ook op na julle en probeer maar ons bes om vir volgende generasie 'n voorbeeld te wees, daar te wees, op adventures te gaan en mense groot te maak wat meer  raaksien as dit wat op hulle mobile screens plaasvind en om 'n valuable contribution tot humanity te maak.

Lekker saam gelees. Jy slaan die spyker solid op die kop met die stukkie. My pa ook nourie dag vir eerste agterop die bike sommer uitgevat vir 'n brekkie. Sy kommentaar was dat dit die lekkerste trip nog ooit was en hy verstaan hoekom ek tyd op my fiets wil spandeer. Well done en doen so voort!!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on July 04, 2019, 12:03:58 pm
die Oom in Carnavon)

Ek let op die Oom word nie bedank nie?!! :peepwall: ;)
Julle manne is bevoorreg om saam met jul pa's te kan ry en ek hoop jul kan nog so doen vir baie jare. Dis die voordeel as n pa vroeg begin!! :deal: ;) >:D
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 12:45:10 pm
die Oom in Carnavon

Ek let op die Oom word nie bedank nie?!! :peepwall: ;)
Julle manne is bevoorreg om saam met jul pa's te kan ry en ek hoop jul kan nog so doen vir baie jare. Dis die voordeel as n pa vroeg begin!! :deal: ;) >:D

Die oom het ons geleer om dankbaar te wees vir ander mense wat vrygewig is, want almal is duidelik nie so nie...  ;)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 complete)
Post by: JC on July 04, 2019, 01:07:13 pm
thanks for the awesome ride report, motivates me to try the same with the laaitie
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 in progress, more flats)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 01:18:23 pm

Pity about the punctures, back to KTM maybe Arch? :o


As ek wil onterf word, sal daai 'n goeie stap wees.   :laughing4:


Any punctures on the Yammie? :o


Niks punctures op die Yammie nie. Daai man weet duidelik hoe om skerk klippe mis te ry. My bank bestuurder was nie so goed soos syne nie...  :deal:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 complete)
Post by: Spiekman on July 04, 2019, 01:21:49 pm
Gabs well said man! A massive privilege it really was! Not a single second of it was taken for granted.

After the split at Tankwa padstal we still had some ground to cover to Sutherland, with the storm hot on our heels we made good ground (fortunately driving away from the storm and not into it like Jo and Arch).
A massive temperature drop welcomed us into Sutherland but fortunately the The White House Hotel had a warm fire going when we got there.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 complete)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 01:23:47 pm
Oh, iets wat ek gemis het!

Toe ons op Kammieskroon stop, bel Honda Centurion vir Spiekman om te hoor of hy nog happy is met sy BRV. Hy was toevalig op daai oomblik in die toilet, so ek het maar opgetel. Daar vertel hulle my van 'n nuwe special op CRVs en hoor of ek wil inruil. Natuurlik het ek gevra of hulle sommer twee kan aflewer en ek wou ook weet of hulle stock het van die nuwe 450L motorfiets. Die dame laat weet my dat iemand van die motorfiets afdeling my binnekort sal terug skakel.

Die res van die trip bel Honda vir Spiekman omtrent elke 20 min om details te confirm van hulle transaksie.  :imaposer:

So Spiekman, hoe loop jou nuwe floot?  :angel11:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 complete)
Post by: Spiekman on July 04, 2019, 01:32:41 pm
The second last day started off a little slow for me with a high fever and feeling proper crap. Knowing we had a long day waiting (571km to Orania) we knew we had to get going. The sleet rain of the previous night made the tar a little slippery but the gravel was a dream due to the lack of dust.

The gravel road to Fraserburg was a beaut and proved to be the perfect medicine for the sickness, whatever it was.

Just other side Fraserburg Sid stopped and showed me where Racheltjie de Beer (Arch) spent much of his first night. Sid decided to write Gabriel's name in pee on the spot, you know, just to make it official.

We then hit it to Loxton for a “roosterbrootjie met kaas and jam” at Die Rooi Granaat. From there it was all the way to Orania where we checked into the Hotel at “Die Oewer”. Amazing place to stay right on the river, super cozy with great food at the restaurant. Note if you are not proper Afrikaans you might need a HAT to decipher some of the Items on the menu.

I would like to point out that this was by far the coldest we have gotten all trip, despite staying in Sutherland on the winter solstice during sleet rain, Orania was way way colder.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Almost done)
Post by: Spiekman on July 04, 2019, 01:37:30 pm
The last day from Orania to Kroonstad was also quite lengthy but due to only being two and the gravel roads so flat and straight we covered the kms with ease.
 
We had a bit of a slow start due to not knowing the petrol station in Orania only opens at 12 on a Sunday.. .luckly with a quick phone call someone was sent to help out with the “noodbrandstofversoek”.

The gravel stretch between Orania to Koffiefontein was quite eventful with a lot of washouts, some sand and some really crappy rocks. It was proper fun though and warmed us up quickly.

The rest of the way to Kroonstad we decided to hop on the tar. Most of those gravel roads we had already done and cold and tired bones were eager to get home.
It was not at all boring though, having the Senna headsets on we had some fat chats. Dad told me all about his history during and after school, some crazy (border) war / army stories that I finally got out of him and how it was for our family in the early days when I was still small. Being a father myself now I could seriously relate and picked up a heap of tips and even a bigger heap of respect for my father and mother! Although the ride was not that eventful and the scenery not great, this was one of the top ranking days for me because of the chats.

NOTE that all the puncher worries left us when Jo and Arch left us at Tankwa… Just saying.
Actually Sid's 1200GS (Heidis) and my XT660Z (E09s) were the only 2 bikes not to get a puncher on the trip.

Thanx to all the authors of the RR, it was really good to re-live it and I know I will be re-living this one for years to come!
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Almost done)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 01:38:16 pm
I'll just add one or two more pics that I missed during the RR.  :thumleft:

While I had time to kill on the 1st night while waiting for the recovery crew, I took out the drone and caught some of this...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yNTy5KyH/P7910797.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 7 complete)
Post by: Spiekman on July 04, 2019, 01:44:13 pm
Oh, iets wat ek gemis het!

Toe ons op Kammieskroon stop, bel Honda Centurion vir Spiekman om te hoor of hy nog happy is met sy BRV. Hy was toevalig op daai oomblik in die toilet, so ek het maar opgetel. Daar vertel hulle my van 'n nuwe special op CRVs en hoor of ek wil inruil. Natuurlik het ek gevra of hulle sommer twee kan aflewer en ek wou ook weet of hulle stock het van die nuwe 450L motorfiets. Die dame laat weet my dat iemand van die motorfiets afdeling my binnekort sal terug skakel.

Die res van die trip bel Honda vir Spiekman omtrent elke 20 min om details te confirm van hulle transaksie.  :imaposer:

So Spiekman, hoe loop jou nuwe floot?  :angel11:

Ja Dankie vir daai een!
Jy het dalk vergeet maar ek het nie... want ek word tenminste elke 3 dae gebel deur Honda... jy het laat al die liggies daar aangaan en ek is nou die nuwe target!  :o 
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 02:01:32 pm
Sleeping next to my bike, waiting for recovery... [Have added this into the right place of the RR too]

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fBsBv44/15th-A-Sleeping-Dog.jpg)

Good thing they didn't let sleeping dogs lie...
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 02:05:21 pm
Some more randoms that didn't make it into the official RR.

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCBrkLJg/20190616-124340.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/0yCqt6F2/20190616-125225.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KYqh26m6/20190616-125948.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/ydD4YLdk/20190616-160155.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Archangel on July 04, 2019, 02:15:37 pm
Honourable Mention here to Fried, who also rode this CB250 all the way to Kigali in Rwanda and back, SOLO

(https://i.postimg.cc/sggnrv12/20190616-171402.jpg)

Klein Pella Sunrise

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmgXhdsx/20190618-074732.jpg)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: ALLEN I on July 04, 2019, 02:22:53 pm
Lekker RR. Thanks for the ride  ;D ;D :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: MellowJo on July 04, 2019, 02:31:52 pm
Honourable Mention here to Fried, who also rode this CB250 all the way to Luanda [tbc] Kigali in Rwanda and back SOLO.


Fixed
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: MellowJo on July 04, 2019, 02:43:12 pm
Regarding the punctures, it went from the ridiculous to the absurd ......  :dousing:

.... I have travelled on my 1150 for about 200,000kms and I crossed the Tankwa a few times with total maybe 3-4 punctures (each time plugged and continuing with that tyre for another few thousand kilos) ......

I use Arch's 1150 for a solo trip to last year's 1150 bash with that same set of tyres with no problems (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=230686.0) ......

... what was also true is that all the punctures were rear tyres, and that at least the last day's problems were related to tyres that should have been written off already ....

Anyways, it made for a very interesting adventure ....... and there is nothing to test a group like these unplanned events ....
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: MellowJo on July 04, 2019, 02:47:51 pm

Then also from my side a very large THANK YOU to the Sid/Pits for organising the trip, their company and help when adversity struck.

........Can't wait for the next one .......





.... new Heidenaus on the rear of all bikes will be a requirement...
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Grunder on July 04, 2019, 04:18:24 pm
Dankie manne vir 'n great ride report.

Thoroughly enjoyed it

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Bokveld on July 04, 2019, 07:59:05 pm
   Beslis n trip om te onthou! Dankie vir n lekker RR manne.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: katana on July 04, 2019, 09:28:47 pm
Dankie julle!!   :ricky:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: met eish on July 04, 2019, 09:31:32 pm
Kewl trip ouens, maar my fork daai punktjirs...dunno
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Frannarossi on July 05, 2019, 09:14:08 am
Lekker ride report manne. Dit het my nou net lus gemaak vir ry! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Sidpitt on July 05, 2019, 09:23:00 am
Regarding the punctures, it went from the ridiculous to the absurd ......  :dousing:

.... I have travelled on my 1150 for about 200,000kms and I crossed the Tankwa a few times with total maybe 3-4 punctures (each time plugged and continuing with that tyre for another few thousand kilos) ......

I use Arch's 1150 for a solo trip to last year's 1150 bash with that same set of tyres with no problems (http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=230686.0) ......

... what was also true is that all the punctures were rear tyres, and that at least the last day's problems were related to tyres that should have been written off already ....

Anyways, it made for a very interesting adventure ....... and there is nothing to test a group like these unplanned events ....

Jo, "Absurd" is an understatement!

At least I got to use my tyre levers that I bought 5 years ago, strapped to my bike and have never had the need to use.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Sidpitt on July 05, 2019, 09:37:07 am
So while we're on the topic of tyres and punctures......... I have a collection of various used tyres that I can assist with if anyone is ever stranded somewhere in the (Northern) Free State.
PS: and I now know how to use tyre levers ;)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2, here we go...)
Post by: Sam on July 05, 2019, 12:18:03 pm

Die tannie van die hotel was also trying her level best to help out where she could, so she gave me a lift to Oom Pieter. When we got there, the deal soured a bit, as Oom Pieter realised that we were quite desperate. Suddenly instead of "having to anyways replace his rear tire", the wording changed slightly to something in the line of "I'll give you this one from my bike, but you'll have to pay for a new one that I'll now need to fit" and apparently the new tire of his liking was R2500, so I ended up having to pay him R2500 on the spot for his old Anakee. As perplexed as I was, I didn't have much of a choice. Maybe I'm just not used to being taken advantage of when I'm in a desperate situation?

Oom Pieter smiling all the way to the bank...



Looks like a very lekker trip you guys had there!

Must admit, when I first read this, I also thought Oompie was taking a chance. But then got to thinking - the oke actually has to replace the tyre - he as a bike standing there with a naked rear rim after all. Not sure what your tyres cost, but R2,500 for a rear isn't too far out of the ballpark compared to the simple Sahara that I bought a month or so ago. Not like he'd just be able to pick up a half worn Anakee to replace the one that you took.Then too, I wonder how much it costs to get the tyre to Carnarvon.

He could have said no, in which case it would prob have taken a bit more than R2500 to sort out your problem.

Both the other tyres that you got were write-offs - if those guys had charged you, I would have thought they were taking advantage of the situation. Not too sure about Oompie. Not too sure that someone living in Cararvon would be rolling in the bucks, so maybe sympathise with his viewpoint

Anyway - just a thought.....

Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2, here we go...)
Post by: Archangel on July 05, 2019, 01:01:54 pm
Looks like a very lekker trip you guys had there!

Must admit, when I first read this, I also thought Oompie was taking a chance. But then got to thinking - the oke actually has to replace the tyre - he as a bike standing there with a naked rear rim after all. Not sure what your tyres cost, but R2,500 for a rear isn't too far out of the ballpark compared to the simple Sahara that I bought a month or so ago. Not like he'd just be able to pick up a half worn Anakee to replace the one that you took.Then too, I wonder how much it costs to get the tyre to Carnarvon.

He could have said no, in which case it would prob have taken a bit more than R2500 to sort out your problem.

Both the other tyres that you got were write-offs - if those guys had charged you, I would have thought they were taking advantage of the situation. Not too sure about Oompie. Not too sure that someone living in Cararvon would be rolling in the bucks, so maybe sympathise with his viewpoint

Anyway - just a thought.....

There is definitely some merit in Oom Pieter's argument. It's just interesting how his viewpoint changed from planning on replacing the tire anyways (proven by the length of remaining life I got out out of it), to now being forced to buy a new tire and actually only doing it because he's doing us a favour.

Something I left out was that he was planning on driving to Beaufort the next day with his car and would replace the tire there, so there's not much bike downtime or even much extra effort on his side. Anyways, willing buyer, willing seller. I've put it behind me.  8)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Ian in Great Brak River on July 05, 2019, 08:09:20 pm
Lekker RR. Thanks for the ride  ;D ;D :ricky:

Thanks again Guys, great read and it's there for future re-reading too.

We need to get to Klein Pella sooner rather than later Oupa Allen.

 8)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Aprilian on July 05, 2019, 09:25:21 pm
Lekker lees! Het vanmiddag n RT gewaar met n vrag bande op die topbox

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: XT JOE on July 06, 2019, 10:20:17 pm
thanks for sharing a fantastic ride-  Brett all ok. Lots of smiles with a nice bunch of people. Hope to get my weeklong dad and lad trip in next year or three as well
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Merino on July 06, 2019, 11:51:25 pm
I'll just add one or two more pics that I missed during the RR.  :thumleft:

While I had time to kill on the 1st night while waiting for the recovery crew, I took out the drone and caught some of this...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yNTy5KyH/P7910797.jpg)
Op daardie plaas 2 km verder lę 'n hoop spaar tyres!!!  Hier in Fraserburg is darem 4 Wilddogs wat sou kon help.  Net jammer mens weet nue van mekaar nie!

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: JMOL on July 07, 2019, 05:39:24 pm
Dankie cir die lekker lees.

Dis 'n groot voorreg wat julle manne gehad het om saam met jul pa's / seuns te ry.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Archangel on July 08, 2019, 05:51:45 am
I'll just add one or two more pics that I missed during the RR.  :thumleft:

While I had time to kill on the 1st night while waiting for the recovery crew, I took out the drone and caught some of this...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yNTy5KyH/P7910797.jpg)
Op daardie plaas 2 km verder lę 'n hoop spaar tyres!!!  Hier in Fraserburg is darem 4 Wilddogs wat sou kon help.  Net jammer mens weet nue van mekaar nie!

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Ja, as ons maar net geweet het! Ook nie sein om te bel of op internet hulp te soek nie, maar nou weet die manne vir volgende keer...

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Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Matewis on July 08, 2019, 07:35:58 am
Ek wil 'n klip in die bos gooi. Is dit nie die effort werd om op 'n kaart plekke te plot waar daar ou bande lę nie. So sodat mense jou drumpel kom deurtrap nie maar dit kan 'n fellow Dog uit die moeilikheid help in tye van nood.
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Sidpitt on July 08, 2019, 03:28:34 pm
Ek wil 'n klip in die bos gooi. Is dit nie die effort werd om op 'n kaart plekke te plot waar daar ou bande lę nie. So sodat mense jou drumpel kom deurtrap nie maar dit kan 'n fellow Dog uit die moeilikheid help in tye van nood.

Goed plan! Goed plan!

Ek dink daar is so SOS thread iewers? (Help Mods?)
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: eberhard on July 08, 2019, 04:10:02 pm
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=136676.0
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Mikie on July 08, 2019, 05:26:44 pm
Great trip guys, thanks for sharing

But those punctures   :eek7:

Makes me remind myself for future trips to take tubes along too, could help in some cases
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Day 2, here we go...)
Post by: tgg on July 08, 2019, 09:19:47 pm
Looks like a very lekker trip you guys had there!

Must admit, when I first read this, I also thought Oompie was taking a chance. But then got to thinking - the oke actually has to replace the tyre - he as a bike standing there with a naked rear rim after all. Not sure what your tyres cost, but R2,500 for a rear isn't too far out of the ballpark compared to the simple Sahara that I bought a month or so ago. Not like he'd just be able to pick up a half worn Anakee to replace the one that you took.Then too, I wonder how much it costs to get the tyre to Carnarvon.

He could have said no, in which case it would prob have taken a bit more than R2500 to sort out your problem.

Both the other tyres that you got were write-offs - if those guys had charged you, I would have thought they were taking advantage of the situation. Not too sure about Oompie. Not too sure that someone living in Cararvon would be rolling in the bucks, so maybe sympathise with his viewpoint

Anyway - just a thought.....

There is definitely some merit in Oom Pieter's argument. It's just interesting how his viewpoint changed from planning on replacing the tire anyways (proven by the length of remaining life I got out out of it), to now being forced to buy a new tire and actually only doing it because he's doing us a favour.

Something I left out was that he was planning on driving to Beaufort the next day with his car and would replace the tire there, so there's not much bike downtime or even much extra effort on his side. Anyways, willing buyer, willing seller. I've put it behind me.  8)
he would not have got a bike tyre there, around our parts they need to be ordered before and takes a few days and extra courier, he charged you about what a repalcement would have cost him
i stay in vredendal and have some free for needed people
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Herklaas on July 08, 2019, 09:48:03 pm
 :sip: Maar kry jy 'n papwiel in Franskoek is jy ook gestrand, moes my agterwiel afhaal en n lift kry Paarl toe om te laat regmaak, en weer terug, Moes die wiel self afhaal en terugsit,  :3some:
Title: Re: Dads & Lads: Namaqualand & Karoo 2019 (Complete / Volledig)
Post by: Herklaas on July 08, 2019, 09:49:34 pm
 :sip:eish, Franshoek, nie koek nie!  :spitcoffee: