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Title: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Jughead on August 08, 2019, 07:16:49 am
https://advrider.com/bmw-hit-with-class-action-lawsuit/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=08_07_2019 (https://advrider.com/bmw-hit-with-class-action-lawsuit/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=08_07_2019)

What an idiot!
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: BLK on August 08, 2019, 07:18:29 am
He needs to get a life.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: eberhard on August 08, 2019, 07:29:00 am
Yeah, what a loser.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: DIRT SKUNK on August 08, 2019, 07:50:46 am
So he needs a gear indicator to tell him what gear he's in????
He's a dipstick, unless BMW defies convention? its 1 down 4-5 up you don/t have to be a rocket scientist to work out
that,
He not a Biker if he cannot tell what gear he in by the engine revs,???
I think this is a money making law suite
BMW should ask for their bike back saying they'll fix the problem and give him a  baby walker for him to use in the mean time
DS
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Jughead on August 08, 2019, 08:00:44 am
He needs to get a life.

He needs to get a PK!
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 08:07:35 am
"BMW has long known about the problem but has done nothing about it"

fanboys, do not shoot the messenger!

We have seen this behaviour from this brand a few times already, remember the "pinging" issues that were flatly ignored?

If the plaintiff is stupid, it's probably for walking into a BMW dealership to start with.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: jaybiker on August 08, 2019, 08:09:50 am
Agree with all of the above, the guy's a twat.

But.....if there's a potential payout in it for me, that puts a different perspective on it.  :lol8:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: chicco on August 08, 2019, 08:18:15 am
come on guys, if you pay for something you want it, dont you? Is the bike 100% or not? you payed 100% of the price.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: FanieKrismis on August 08, 2019, 08:26:22 am
Clearly they have no plans to fix this, looking at their roadmap for these models...

Quote
BMW motorcycles manufactured between 2003 and 20019
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 08:38:40 am
The plaintiff's big worry may be, rightfully, that if BMW cannot even get 70's technology like "idiot lights" right, can you trust their ABS, TC, etc??

Or their home-crimping of steering systems? :pot:

Can you even trust that your brake-light is working? :eek7: :eek7: :eek7:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 08, 2019, 08:54:50 am
The heading of the thread is misleading.. its a proposed class action suite, there has been no judgement on it.

Its paramount to telling on...  :laughing4:

To everyone saying he is a twat / looser / needs to get a life etc i'm willing to bet R1k that none of you have a faulty BMW in your garage that BMW is not willing to fix.. :peepwall:

All I know is if I had paid R250k plus for a bike and the gear selector was faulty, I would not be happy either.. if this is a common problem and enough people have the same complaint the class action may proceed and force a recall.. will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Maverick on August 08, 2019, 09:05:12 am
When I had my HP2 it was a known issue with the front forks wearing at the seal. BMW would not replace it as they deemed it wear and tear which I accepted at first - not happy but went on enjoying the bike for the reason I bought it. Then I spotted a thread on ADVRider and a guy in Canada posted a letter of BMW who will do a recall - in Canada on the HP2 forks. I printed the letter went back to my dealer where I bought it and said please send this to BMW UK and get back to me with an answer and don't be surprised if every single HP2 owner rocks up at your dealers doors with the same letter.

Received a call the next day and whole new suspension fitted free of charge with an upgrade done to eliminate the issue. Whether a gear indicator light can put your life in danger would be scary the fact that you actually rely on any electronics including ABS when the shit hits the fan, maybe just maybe biking is then not for you  :biggrin: If you paid top dollar for something and not getting your money's worth and have to prompt the guys at the top with a law suit so be it  :lamer:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Grrrr.... on August 08, 2019, 09:08:11 am
All I know is if I had paid R250k plus for a bike and the gear selector was faulty, I would not be happy either...

Then don't buy an entry model BMW motorcycle. Goodkoop koop is duur koop.

Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Edgar on August 08, 2019, 09:20:08 am
All I know is if I had paid R250k plus for a bike and the gear selector was faulty, I would not be happy either...

Then don't buy an entry model BMW motorcycle. Goodkoop koop is duur koop.

 :spitcoffee: :spitcoffee:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Edgar on August 08, 2019, 09:21:50 am
Daniel Casey sounds like a real pussy to me. Get a life or go suck on your mom's tit like a baby  :deal:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 01:00:46 pm
Daniel Casey sounds like a real pussy to me. Get a life or go suck on your mom's tit like a baby  :deal:

He already has a BMW..... :ricky:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 08, 2019, 01:02:21 pm
The guy is a complete idiot.   Those of you who disagree should go read the article again.

Yes, he is most certainly entitled to a 100% bike and BMW should supply that,  No argument there.  If they cannot, or will not you should take them to task and if that includes a court case, that is fine.  No argument there.

If, however you state that not having a gear indicator will:

- impede you from properly judging accelerating power and torque delivery;
- place the motorcycle in incorrect gear while on cruise control;
- reduces gas mileage
- causes ďexcessive strainĒ on the motor among other things.

Then, he is a utter, idiot.  No argument there.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: FanieKrismis on August 08, 2019, 01:02:33 pm
He already has a BMW..... :ricky:

Those hang tits have nipples for him to suck on?
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Roadhawg on August 08, 2019, 01:03:33 pm
So a faulty gear indicator is a problem, but dodgy stanchions that fall apart and try to kill you are fine?
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 08, 2019, 01:05:52 pm
So a faulty gear indicator is a problem, but dodgy stanchions that fall apart and try to kill you are fine?

Well maybe his bike is not a GS?
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TeeJay on August 08, 2019, 01:15:29 pm
Maybe he's just used to first world standards where the supplier of a product/service actually delivers what the customer is paying for. Maybe you bunch of moaners on here (saying he should rather not be riding then - and/or supporting BMW) are just used to typical South African low/lack of standards  :pot:

Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 08, 2019, 01:31:08 pm
Maybe he's just used to first world standards where the supplier of a product/service actually delivers what the customer is paying for. Maybe you bunch of moaners on here (saying he should rather not be riding then - and/or supporting BMW) are just used to typical South African low/lack of standards  :pot:

If the lack of a proper gear indicator impedes you from properly judging accelerating power and torque delivery you should most certainly not be on a bike!  Perhaps you are judging his riding ability against the average SA taxi drivers?   :peepwall: :ricky:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Edgar on August 08, 2019, 01:34:59 pm
 am I the only one here thinking about his mom's tits......??
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: eberhard on August 08, 2019, 01:54:58 pm
am I the only one here thinking about his mom's tits......??

Not my style - too small.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: poenerhoes on August 08, 2019, 02:10:32 pm
He already has a BMW..... :ricky:

Those hang tits have nipples for him to suck on?

That was quick, from a faulty gear indicator to hang tits with nipples, impressive :pot:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: DavidMorrisXp on August 08, 2019, 02:20:20 pm
Class action for faulty forks, or heat issues but a gear selection indicator..............no
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TeeJay on August 08, 2019, 02:22:05 pm
Maybe he's just used to first world standards where the supplier of a product/service actually delivers what the customer is paying for. Maybe you bunch of moaners on here (saying he should rather not be riding then - and/or supporting BMW) are just used to typical South African low/lack of standards  :pot:

If the lack of a proper gear indicator impedes you from properly judging accelerating power and torque delivery you should most certainly not be on a bike!  Perhaps you are judging his riding ability against the average SA taxi drivers?   :peepwall: :ricky:

C'mon - everyone knows he's just listing every possible scenario that this could cause to increase his chances of a successful court case. His claims will in any event be tested in a court of law. This has nothing to do with his abilities to ride a bike - you know that - so it's a cheap shot from your side.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: jaybiker on August 08, 2019, 02:35:33 pm
Thinking back, my first bike (1961) had a gear position indicator. A dial and pointer on top of the gearbox. I never knew whether it was working properly because to check it meant taking your eyes off the road and leaning down towards it for a good five seconds at least. How dangerous is that?  :eek7:

Shit, why do I never think of anything, I could have instigated a class action lawsuit. I coulda been rich!  :deal:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 03:02:12 pm
Thinking back, my first bike (1961) had a gear position indicator. A dial and pointer on top of the gearbox. I never knew whether it was working properly because to check it meant taking your eyes off the road and leaning down towards it for a good five seconds at least. How dangerous is that?  :eek7:

Shit, why do I never think of anything, I could have instigated a class action lawsuit. I coulda been rich!  :deal:

You think BSA had money to pay you?? :pot:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Ganjora on August 08, 2019, 03:11:57 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Fuzzy Muzzy on August 08, 2019, 03:32:40 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

 :imaposer:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 03:34:13 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

Halelujah! :pot:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Antonie on August 08, 2019, 08:15:03 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.
:imaposer: should have charged you double blerrie heathen :peepwall:

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Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: chopperpilot on August 08, 2019, 08:52:52 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.
What's the latest on the stansions? Have the forks been improved, or are the still capped and crimped? :pot: :peepwall:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 08, 2019, 09:07:19 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.
What's the latest on the stansions? Have the forks been improved, or are the still capped and crimped? :pot: :peepwall:

Ganjora's stancheons? :pot:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Mapog on August 08, 2019, 10:13:09 pm
Hier is definitief n platespeler op die forum wat vasgehaak het...
Laat my dink aan my dowe oom. Jy kan hom mooi verduidelik wat die regte verloop van omstandighede is, maar hy gaan altyd terug na sy ďdefault settingĒ.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Offroadrider on August 09, 2019, 07:34:22 am
BM riders are really a special kind of people but in saying that at the price of those things I would also want it to work.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 09, 2019, 07:52:29 am
Hier is definitief n platespeler op die forum wat vasgehaak het...
Laat my dink aan my dowe oom. Jy kan hom mooi verduidelik wat die regte verloop van omstandighede is, maar hy gaan altyd terug na sy ďdefault settingĒ.

Ja, daai dowe oom koop toe mos weer n BMW omdat hy nie kan luister nie. :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: chopperpilot on August 09, 2019, 10:06:09 am
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.
What's the latest on the stansions? Have the forks been improved, or are the still capped and crimped? :pot: :peepwall:

Ganjora's stancheons? :pot:
:imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :

The 3rd gear explosion on his DR 650 SE was one of his pet subjects....something no-one else in SA experienced! :o
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: IceCreamMan on August 09, 2019, 10:13:10 am
Manufacturers are notorious for not taking responsibility due to liability....letís think Toyota with fortunes that roll at the site of a gravel road, fords that spontaneously combust or bmws that donít show the correct gear.

This guy got to the end of his patience I reckon and some type stuff of ppl like things to work as intended otherwise it causes them stress. This guy is probably this type of persona.

I can tell you, lawyers donít go to these lengths unless they see an opportunity to win. Bet itís resolved with undisclosed amounts changing hands.

If this is an issue then BMW really should sort it. My cheapie Kwak is uber reliable
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: katana on August 09, 2019, 02:55:58 pm
Manufacturers are notorious for not taking responsibility due to liability....letís think Toyota with fortunes that roll at the site of a gravel road, fords that spontaneously combust or bmws that donít show the correct gear.

This guy got to the end of his patience I reckon and some type stuff of ppl like things to work as intended otherwise it causes them stress. This guy is probably this type of persona.

I can tell you, lawyers donít go to these lengths unless they see an opportunity to win. Bet itís resolved with undisclosed amounts changing hands.

If this is an issue then BMW really should sort it. My cheapie Kwak is uber reliable
Not entirely correct, they get paid either way.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: BuRP on August 11, 2019, 01:31:06 pm
am I the only one here thinking about his mom's tits......??

Definitely not, but I was more thing along the lines of what his mom looks like first.....  8)
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: BuRP on August 11, 2019, 01:32:02 pm
Ja, daai dowe oom koop toe mos weer n BMW omdat hy nie kan luister nie.

Die probleem van daai tiepe ooms is nie luister nie, dis hoor ....  :P
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: IceCreamMan on August 11, 2019, 02:23:27 pm
Manufacturers are notorious for not taking responsibility due to liability....letís think Toyota with fortunes that roll at the site of a gravel road, fords that spontaneously combust or bmws that donít show the correct gear.

This guy got to the end of his patience I reckon and some type stuff of ppl like things to work as intended otherwise it causes them stress. This guy is probably this type of persona.

I can tell you, lawyers donít go to these lengths unless they see an opportunity to win. Bet itís resolved with undisclosed amounts changing hands.

If this is an issue then BMW really should sort it. My cheapie Kwak is uber reliable
Not entirely correct, they get paid either way.

I suspect these guys are in for a cut of the settlement not a fee.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Fudmucker on August 11, 2019, 07:02:47 pm
I suspect these guys are in for a cut of the settlement not a fee.

They are suing for punitive damages - that is exactly where their prospective earnings lie.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 11, 2019, 09:37:51 pm
I suspect these guys are in for a cut of the settlement not a fee.

They are suing for punitive damages - that is exactly where their prospective earnings lie.

The lawayer are merely executing the wishes of a client, one that is less willing to be fucked over like SA ones.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Edgar on August 12, 2019, 08:13:15 am
I just love my BMW. I would never say anything bad about BMW.  :love4: :love10: :love4: :love7:

In fact BMW makes the best bike ever!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2019, 08:19:47 am
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: chicco on August 12, 2019, 08:59:18 am
I think the class action is a bit over the top but maybe intended just to get their attention, also all the exaggeration about being lewensgevaarlik.

But if it is broken, they must fix it.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Sylvester on August 12, 2019, 09:20:00 am
This is what happens when the BMW dealership runs out of muffins...
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 12, 2019, 09:34:02 am
This is what happens when the BMW dealership runs out of muffins...

to stuff in the exhaust as baffles.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2019, 09:56:25 am
This is what happens when the BMW dealership runs out of muffins...

to stuff in the exhaust as baffles.

Aha!  So you concede that a BMW engine makes enough power to generate enough noise to require a baffle!

This is what happens when the BMW dealership runs out of muffins...

Netso!  I was there Saturday.  No muffins!  I am going to sue the barstewards! 
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Ganjora on August 12, 2019, 10:48:12 am
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)

4 days,  and that's your come back?
maybe take another day or 2 and come up with something better.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2019, 10:52:30 am
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)

4 days,  and that's your come back?
maybe take another day or 2 and come up with something better.

Well heck, I thought that was a rather cool come back.  Now you have gone and pissed on my batteries and muffins.   :snorting:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 12, 2019, 12:46:21 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)

4 days,  and that's your come back?
maybe take another day or 2 and come up with something better.

Well heck, I thought that was a rather cool come back.  Now you have gone and pissed on my batteries and muffins.   :snorting:

BMW muffins get pissed on before serving. ;)
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: TheBear on August 12, 2019, 01:34:06 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)

4 days,  and that's your come back?
maybe take another day or 2 and come up with something better.

Well heck, I thought that was a rather cool come back.  Now you have gone and pissed on my batteries and muffins.   :snorting:

BMW muffins get pissed on before serving. ;)

I bow to your .... uhm .... I mean, if you say so, who am I to argue.   >:D

I have heard that you have the contract to piss on BMW muffins.  Any truth in that rumour?   :lol8:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 12, 2019, 03:55:23 pm
i don't care about the reason,  i am just very happy that someone is suing them.
they make shit bikes.
they should be sued.
and i hope it costs them so much that they stop making their shit motor bikes.

You talk so much shit, you must be the main supplier of raw material to BMW.   :lol8: ;)

4 days,  and that's your come back?
maybe take another day or 2 and come up with something better.

Well heck, I thought that was a rather cool come back.  Now you have gone and pissed on my batteries and muffins.   :snorting:

BMW muffins get pissed on before serving. ;)

I bow to your .... uhm .... I mean, if you say so, who am I to argue.   >:D

I have heard that you have the contract to piss on BMW muffins.  Any truth in that rumour?   :lol8:

I lost the contract. Some bozo mass-dips them in the sewerage works now. Apparently cheaper for the Motorrad.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Fudmucker on August 13, 2019, 06:15:07 am
 ::)
Certain people here simply revert to type when they absolutely must reply,
but have nothing constructive to add to a thread.
You are talking through the wrong end of your digestive tract.
What you sprout above is verbal excrement... brain flatulence...

Please engage your brain before opening your mouth!
Nobody here on WD will take it as an insult if you just remain silent.

ADMIN: Please create an "Ignore members posts" function.  :sip:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 13, 2019, 07:16:37 am
::)
Certain people here simply revert to type when they absolutely must reply,
but have nothing constructive to add to a thread.
You are talking through the wrong end of your digestive tract.
What you sprout above is verbal excrement... brain flatulence...

Please engage your brain before opening your mouth!
Nobody here on WD will take it as an insult if you just remain silent.

ADMIN: Please create an "Ignore members posts" function.  :sip:


I fully agree that it is sprouting verbal excrement to call a owner of this brand a "loser", and "needs to get a life" for complaining about a legitimate fault on his machine, over which the manufacturer

simply ignores him flatly.

I would also have remained silent, rather than call the unknown owner derogatory names to defend the brand.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 13, 2019, 07:36:35 am
OK, seriously now, this thread is probably as good to a good example of SA attitude towards service as you'd get.

There is a fault on a vehicle owner's bike, however small and minor it is deemed by some, and the legal owner complains about this to the point that he has to revert to the law to force the

manufacturer to pay him any attention.

Now, please go back and read many of the responses towards the owner, from belittling him to outright insults and even "threats" of a "PK". :eek7:

Remember this thread next time you want to complain about bad service in this country. :deal:
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: Fudmucker on August 13, 2019, 12:02:59 pm
"Whataboutism" as justification again.
Title: Re: BMW hit with class action lawsuit
Post by: 2StrokeDan on August 13, 2019, 02:37:06 pm
"Whataboutism" as justification again.

You are not new here.

Ask yourself; Is 2StrokeDan going to change?

Do nt ignore me, accept me. :thumleft: :thumleft: