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Title: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on November 14, 2019, 11:03:43 am
Okay Gents,

So I am definitely no guru on uploading onto the forum but I think we should generate some interest in this rally!
Seeing as we have two of our very own that have been included in Lyndon Poskett's Races to Places team that will be competing come the 04th Jan.
Greg Raaff and Joey Evan are part of the team.
Teams were announced a couple of days ago on You Tube but I have no idea how to load?????
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dwerg on November 14, 2019, 12:08:51 pm
If you use the full link, you can just paste it

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: sidetrack on November 14, 2019, 10:56:37 pm
The real Dakar Rally
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: bmad on November 18, 2019, 02:11:59 pm
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Brink on November 18, 2019, 04:44:34 pm
 :sip: :ricky: :deal:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: evansv on November 18, 2019, 06:44:28 pm
Sub
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on November 19, 2019, 08:08:27 am
Morning,

Spoke to Greg and Joey on the weekend and they recon that all the bikes are already in the UK (sponsored bikes!!!!) and are currently being prepped.
They trying to get o over the line on the kickstarter for the media team which is under Races for Places and then they can provide a 20min daily post.

Would be fantastic to get that over the line so if possible help out.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lyndonposkitt/team-races-2-places-race-2-dakar-live-africa-eco-race
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on November 26, 2019, 02:09:17 pm
Afternoon,
See that the kickstarter amount was reached so the media team will be going ;D
https://youtu.be/wTaHfvBxtmc
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Grunder on November 26, 2019, 02:34:36 pm
sub :sip:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dunnes on November 26, 2019, 04:37:26 pm
I heard they roped in an Aussie to replace a rider who got injured. Hope its not one of our guys
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: gser on November 26, 2019, 05:50:34 pm
Yes , the Aussie is in now ... good luck to him.
I feel sorry for the Japanese guy , what a pity . It was Lyndon's first round choice .
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 02, 2019, 06:53:48 pm
Lekker! PIN IT boys! :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on December 03, 2019, 09:07:47 am
Pretty exited about this. The coverage Lyndon gave of his last Dakar was awesome so I suspect this will be even better.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on December 06, 2019, 06:23:47 am
Latest video.
https://youtu.be/IL7J2mYV6AY
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on December 29, 2019, 06:49:13 am
Lyndon, prepping his bike. It is absolutely insane the level of detail he goes to. A real perfectionist. Amazing.
 :drif:

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: sidetrack on January 01, 2020, 12:55:16 pm
Eco race getting more popular. I reckon if one or two big teams make the switch to Africa it will have a snowball effect.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 01, 2020, 08:24:42 pm
Unfortunately if it gets much bigger it might become a target again :(

But Africa is not for pissies.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on January 02, 2020, 05:18:17 am
Some pictures sent from Greg, the team all arrive in the UK today.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2020, 06:37:16 am
Joh! Lyndon got a mean team going there. I wonder what the financial investment has been and implications for riders, if any. Clearly Motorex are the big boys.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 02, 2020, 06:50:55 am
Did he have to actually change the project team name Race to Dakar due to the actual Dakar owning the name Dakar?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 02, 2020, 06:34:27 pm
No idea, but man those bikes & helmets look totally awesome.  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: B.V. on January 03, 2020, 06:39:32 am
No idea, but man those bikes & helmets look totally awesome.  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:

x2
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ri on January 03, 2020, 07:59:57 am
No idea, but man those bikes & helmets look totally awesome.  :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif: :drif:

x2

 :drif: :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on January 03, 2020, 09:15:44 pm
Today from Greg and Joey,
The butterflies have kicked in!
Today we are busy setting up the individual preferences on the bike setup and fitting the nav gear.
We do scrutineering at 8am tomorrow and then ride the bikes to parc ferme in Monte Carlo.
Tomorrow evening at 7pm is the ceremonial start where we each ride over the podium and are presented to the public.
On the 5th off to the ferry for the crossing to Morocco and Stage 1 racing starts on the 7th.
Lyndon has put an awesome crew together and everything is superbly organised.
The bikes look fantastic and we have full sponsored gear from head to toe. Look factory!
Thanks for all of the well wishes!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 03, 2020, 11:05:47 pm
Really does look factory. :thumleft:

Anyone know what the Durban-Stan sticker is about?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: gser on January 04, 2020, 07:38:16 am
Jip , looks good.
Looking forward to this one as well.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 04, 2020, 07:42:31 am
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 04, 2020, 08:29:07 am
Just got to love those bikes and Lyndon on the dyno  >:D :thumleft: :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:  Very slick factory setup.  ON IT!  >:D
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Bobby Chang on January 05, 2020, 10:53:49 am
What a slick team Lyndon has organised, well done to his Dad and team.......ON IT.
Good luck to Lyndon, Joey and Greg......don't know the other riders.

Give it horn and ride carefully.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Hondsekierie on January 05, 2020, 12:20:02 pm
What a slick team Lyndon has organised, well done to his Dad and team.......ON IT.
Good luck to Lyndon, Joey and Greg......don't know the other riders.

Give it horn and ride carefully.

Seems they have quite a big problem with one of the support vehicles.  Hope they can get that sorted asap
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 05, 2020, 05:07:31 pm
What a slick team Lyndon has organised, well done to his Dad and team.......ON IT.
Good luck to Lyndon, Joey and Greg......don't know the other riders.

Give it horn and ride carefully.

Seems they have quite a big problem with one of the support vehicles.  Hope they can get that sorted asap

Aarrgh, that really sucks. Any more info?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Hondsekierie on January 05, 2020, 08:44:10 pm
What a slick team Lyndon has organised, well done to his Dad and team.......ON IT.
Good luck to Lyndon, Joey and Greg......don't know the other riders.

Give it horn and ride carefully.

Seems they have quite a big problem with one of the support vehicles.  Hope they can get that sorted asap

Aarrgh, that really sucks. Any more info?

As far as I can remember the crank pulley.  The sweeper truck loaded it and they have to sort it out on the Moroccan side of the pond.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: 1ougat on January 05, 2020, 08:58:39 pm
 :sip:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 05, 2020, 09:14:32 pm
This coverage is going to be epic I think. I might be more amped for this than Dakar  :lol8: .
Love the attention to detail, both ito the organisation and bike/team prep as well as the little details in the edits explaining everything.

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 06, 2020, 05:41:47 am
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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 06, 2020, 05:43:21 am
Tuesday 7 January 2020: Stage 1
TANGER / TARDA : 754,24 km
Assistance : 753 km

Liaison: Tanger / Kenitra: 241,28 km
SS: Kenitra / Zardal: 23,18 km
Liaison: Zardal / Tarda: 489,78 km

https://www.africarace.com/en/race/2020/route/260
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 06, 2020, 07:37:23 am
Greg and Joey - watched Lyndon's preparation on these bikes last night- wow serious budgets
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: alphadog on January 06, 2020, 11:18:26 am
Really does look factory. :thumleft:

Anyone know what the Durban-Stan sticker is about?


Lydon named all the bikes stan, so if the rider is from Durban its  Durban Stan etc. its very easy too follow all the races to places eco africa stuff on youtube.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 06, 2020, 11:20:35 am
Really does look factory. :thumleft:

Anyone know what the Durban-Stan sticker is about?


Lydon named all the bikes stan, so if the rider is from Durban its  Durban Stan etc. its very easy too follow all the races to places eco africa stuff on youtube.

From sponsor Enduri Stan  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: skydiver on January 06, 2020, 02:56:20 pm
Lyndon's KTM bikes really stand out due to their unique colour
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: sidetrack on January 06, 2020, 03:05:51 pm
Bit more people at Monaco Africa Eco start vs Dakar in Saudi
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on January 06, 2020, 07:30:51 pm
Evening,
What a day! Geniel and Ross winning stage 2 of Dakar.
I have just got a short speel from Joey
“Just a quick brief and basic explanation about this race I’m on:

The Paris - Dakar Rally ran from 1979-2007 in and around North Africa using many different routes  as well as start and finish locations (often in an attempt to avoid political violence and extremist terrorist groups). The vast majority of the races finished in Dakar, Senegal which led to the race being commonly referred to as the “Dakar Rally.”
In 2008 in light of serious terrorism threats to the participants on the route, the race organizers (ASO) were forced to cancel the race, just the night before the start. From the following year 2009, the race was moved to South America and continued as the toughest offroad race in the world.
However there were some guys who still wanted a race to run to Dakar, Senegal and they organized their own race in 2009 with only 10 bike entries. The next year only saw 3 bike entries. Over the years however that race has grown and this year has seen record entries with over 80 bikes.

Although it’s not seen as the “real” Dakar, it does finish in Dakar, Senegal and covers much of the same route as the original Dakar Rally. A grueling race in itself and with the latest move of the Dakar Rally to Saudi Arabia this race has become even more popular.
They are naturally legally prevented from using the name “Dakar Rally” and so they go by the name of the “Africa Eco Race” or just “Africa Race” to most. (There is nothing “Eco” about offroad racing IMO)

The race vehicles and format are identical to the Dakar but they are more lenient on expulsion from the race and it’s more focused on “amateur” teams as supposed to full factory race teams. Their goal is to keep the “rough and tough” nature of the original race and less “bling”. But make no mistake the race route is widely known to be brutal ... over 6000km long through Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania and Senagal over a period of 13 days. Bikes, Quads, side by sides, cars and trucks all compete together on the same track. (Word on the street is it can be dangerous for bikers to race with other vehicles!😉)

Racing the Dakar Rally in South America was naturally a dream come true for me. But when the opportunity arose to race the original routes to Dakar, Senegal as I had seen on TV years ago just seemed like a once in a lifetime opportunity I couldn’t pass up. So here I am about to race offroad on a motorbike across North Africa. Let’s do this!🤘🏻🇿🇦🏁”
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 07, 2020, 08:02:59 am
where does one get updates on the Africa Eco- website not showing much and not seeing anything on on Lyndons site either. They should really have this a month before or after Dakar
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 07, 2020, 08:32:28 am
This is the spot they say- http://africaecorace.rallytracking.nl/en/stage-1/bikes/live/

Will try get some pics

(1)   
100 - POSKITT LYNDON (GBR)
09:31:00   (1)
-   (2)   
101 - BOTTURI ALESSANDRO (ITA)
09:33:00   (2)
-   (3)   
102 - SUTHERLAND MATT (AUS)
09:35:00   (3)
-   (4)   
103 - RAAFF GREGORY (ZAF)
09:37:00   (4)
-   (5)   
104 - EVANS JOSEPH (GBR)
09:39:00   (5)
-   (6)   
105 - JOHNSON MICHAEL (USA)
09:41:00   (6)
-   (7)   
106 - ULLEVALSETER PAL ANDERS (NOR
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: RedRum on January 07, 2020, 09:13:50 am
GPS tracking with additional info:

https://media.iritrack.com/eviewer/?ev=55494534ee44c1dbbf433ca1ce49f4da

On menu on top right, you can select race numbers to follow
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BlueBull2007 on January 07, 2020, 09:23:00 am
Thanks guys! :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: SpeedMetal on January 07, 2020, 09:35:55 am
Why is Joey showing as GBR?

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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 07, 2020, 11:07:13 am
The live tracking here is awesome. Why oh why can't dakar do this
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 07, 2020, 11:21:36 am
Lyndon and Greg Raaf leading the day. Lekker  :ricky: :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Hollywood on January 07, 2020, 01:44:26 pm
Great... adding to my Dakar addiction, now, I can't help keeping an eye on the R2P team on the tracking page. My productivity is definitely taking a huge knock!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: sidetrack on January 07, 2020, 01:55:25 pm
Now this is proper tracking  :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Grunder on January 07, 2020, 02:14:24 pm
wow
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 07, 2020, 03:34:07 pm
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 07, 2020, 06:48:07 pm
Why is Joey showing as GBR?

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The Orga might be  taking nationality from the passport the competitor holds. And I believe Joey has a UK passport even though he identifies so strongly with South Africa.

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 08, 2020, 07:10:11 am
still no pics here and not sure how accurate this is from Eco website
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 08, 2020, 10:40:54 am
Tracking is live for the Eco race. https://media.iritrack.com/eviewer/?ev=55494534ee44c1dbbf433ca1ce49f4da

Now how am I supposed to get any work done at all  :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: I&horse on January 08, 2020, 11:53:17 am
I thought Races 2 Places was going to post daily videos of the race but I can't find anything????
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 08, 2020, 11:58:11 am
I thought Races 2 Places was going to post daily videos of the race but I can't find anything????
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: I&horse on January 08, 2020, 12:26:40 pm
I thought Races 2 Places was going to post daily videos of the race but I can't find anything????

Thanks

Is that from Facebook or Twitter or something?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 08, 2020, 01:03:21 pm
I thought Races 2 Places was going to post daily videos of the race but I can't find anything????

Thanks

Is that from Facebook or Twitter or something?

Facebook
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 08, 2020, 01:11:32 pm
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 08, 2020, 03:13:37 pm
update
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: zacapa on January 08, 2020, 07:02:02 pm
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 08, 2020, 07:51:50 pm
ALL I CAN SHOUT IS

*** FOKKIT DIT IS GE-POLISH ***

I LAAAAAIIIIKKKK

Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 09, 2020, 07:53:02 am
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 09, 2020, 08:01:23 am
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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 09, 2020, 08:15:43 am
Copy paste from their website
In the large moto category, Pal Anders ULLEVALSETER showed the competitors how good of a competition he is by winning this special stage, with 8’10’’ ahead of Lyndon POSKITT and 9’35’’ on Alessandro BOTTURI. Departing in 8th position, the Norwegian did not make any mistake on navigation, unlike the others. Indeed, Alessandro BOTTURI on his YAMAHA got caught up by Lyndon POSKITT on kilometre 40. The Italian opened the way several times but he lost the correct track, bringing the KTM and its British rider with him. Therefore, Lyndon also went on the wrong track. Later, the two leaders rode together until the finish line of this rather fast route. During this time, on his KTM, ULLEVALSETER was going full throttle and as in sport the best way to gain some time is not to loose any, the Norwegian ends up top of the general ranking with 1’29’’ ahead of Botturi and 2’01’’ on POSKITT.
Amongst the other performers of the day, the Italian Paolo LUCCI places his HUSQVARNA in 5th position just in front of the Norwegian Félix JENSEN, who has performed nicely since the beginning. Konrad DABROWSKI, young 18-year-old rider from Poland confirms his potential by ranking 7th, just before his “professor” Jacek CZACHOR, long term co-rider of his father Mark DABROWSKI. The first moto +450 c3 is the KTM of the Italian Gabriele MINELLI finishing 16th and the winner of the Motul Xtreme Rider malle moto category is the excellent British rider Richard KAYE on his KTM.
Read this-
A last word on the Italian rider Nicola DUTTO, number 128 who has the particularity of participating in the AFRICA ECO RACE without having the use of his legs. This is possible for him thanks to two other riders, the Spanish Julian GARCIA VILLARRUBIA and the Italian Stefano BALDUSSI who hold his motorbike at departures, refuelling and at arrival. They are of course present to help him in case of any problem and putting back up in case of fall. For now, everything is going for the best for Nicola who, on his specially equipped KTM, is in 26th place on the temporary general ranking. Wow where there is a will (and $)there is a way
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: I&horse on January 09, 2020, 08:42:44 am
I think Lyndon is giving the AER a lot of publicity which is great. I'm following the Dakar with great interest, but this is the real race to Dakar!!!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 09, 2020, 10:04:50 am
Here is some live tracking

https://media.iritrack.com/eviewer/?ev=55494534ee44c1dbbf433ca1ce49f4da
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 09, 2020, 03:44:30 pm
Joey and Greg are moving very slowly together. I shouldn't wonder if one of them has a problem. But they are moving.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Hollywood on January 09, 2020, 04:26:43 pm
Joey and Greg are moving very slowly together. I shouldn't wonder if one of them has a problem. But they are moving.
Lyndon has finished already, but Joey and Gregg are more than 100kilos back, sticking close together... Lets hope for the best
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 09, 2020, 04:38:47 pm
It looks to me like they're towing.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 09, 2020, 06:20:51 pm
They're in!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: SpeedMetal on January 09, 2020, 10:38:02 pm
Maybe one of the clever guys can embed this for us :
https://www.facebook.com/133067113494010/posts/1806122292855142/

EPISODE 5 of Race 2 Dakar

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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 09, 2020, 11:05:02 pm
Maybe one of the clever guys can embed this for us :
https://www.facebook.com/133067113494010/posts/1806122292855142/

EPISODE 5 of Race 2 Dakar

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Use the youtube link. Don't think we can do fb videos yet

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on January 10, 2020, 05:22:55 am
From Greg this morning.
Had a good day today. Was long and tough. Mostly rocky roads again with a 20km dune section and a 6 km sandy riverbed. I caught Joey in the dunes and we rode 400km together which was awesome. 9 odd hours on the bike. Feeling a lot more confident and comfortable.
Helped our teammate Matt out at the refuel so we gave up about 20 mins.
Foot and shoulder are 100% - hands are tired!
385km tomorrow of the same type of terrain as we continue to head south towards Mauritania.
Warmer every day which is great!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: SpeedMetal on January 10, 2020, 07:07:04 am
Dankie Kortbroek. Episode 6 is ook uit https://www.facebook.com/133067113494010/posts/1806389746161730/
Maybe one of the clever guys can embed this for us :
https://www.facebook.com/133067113494010/posts/1806122292855142/

EPISODE 5 of Race 2 Dakar

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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 10, 2020, 07:41:25 am
oops and on the african eco site found this
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 10, 2020, 07:49:38 am
getting ready for a long day in the saddle- be safe out there

XT JOE this is the africa eco race not the DAKAR page  :ricky:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 10, 2020, 07:49:52 am
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 10, 2020, 08:41:53 am
getting ready for a long day in the saddle- be safe out there

XT JOE this is the africa eco race not the DAKAR page  :ricky:

oops  :thumleft: rectified
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ri on January 10, 2020, 09:37:43 am
oops and on the african eco site found this

Yo, PROPER faceplant :o Hope he's OK!

Love the bike and kit colours, very vibrant
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Grunder on January 10, 2020, 09:41:15 am
oops and on the african eco site found this

Yo, PROPER faceplant :o Hope he's OK!

Love the bike and kit colours, very vibrant

And by the looks of the pic the bike hit him in the ass also.

Ouch!!!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 10, 2020, 11:15:45 am
Which rider was that?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: oldred on January 10, 2020, 12:31:54 pm
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: 1ougat on January 11, 2020, 08:37:30 am
Must say I enjoy the races 2 places videos - amazing how quickly they get them out - th tracking must be the best I have ever seen compared to Dakar - was always an issue to find or to get updates - looks like joey is having some fun.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 11, 2020, 04:57:03 pm
Matt & Michael made a huge navigational blunder (along with some others) and lost a lot of time but they, along with Joey and Greg, are finished the special and just about at Bivvy. Well done guys!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Ross Riddle on January 12, 2020, 08:36:25 pm
From Greg Raaff,
Had a timely rest day today after a few long days in the saddle.
The body is surprisingly fine after 14 months of virtually no exercise. Clearly my physio Paula did a fantastic job!
We managed to get all of our kit laundered and polished ready for the next week’s action.
Early start tomorrow morning in the dark with a long liaison and a border crossing into Mauritania. Won’t be sad to see the back of “More Rocco” - sick and tired of rocks!
The dunes may be a bigger challenge though. Will keep you posted. Thanks for the support 👍🛵😎
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 14, 2020, 07:09:34 am
Stage 4

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 14, 2020, 07:32:16 am
Afternoon naps for exhausted riders
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on January 14, 2020, 08:52:54 am
What actually happened in yesterday's stage???
Lyndon Poskitt had gone like the clappers from the start an was in front until just before the end of the stage when he suddenly slowed (according the amazing real-time tracking they have for the race), and then stopped with a bunch of other front runners about 100m from the end of the stage. He was then given 20th for the stage, whereas Matt Sutherland, who started way after Lyndon was given 7th position for the stage!

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kamanya on January 14, 2020, 11:05:57 am
Looks like a tough navigation stage, many all over the place
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 14, 2020, 11:38:16 am
I actually like this live tracking better.  Same as for Dakar

http://africaecorace.rallytracking.nl/en/stage-7/bikes/stage-positions/?show-top=off


Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 14, 2020, 12:45:11 pm
Just watched TRP Ep9 and the quality of the content it just amazing. By far the best Motorcycle Rally coverage I've ever seen. Joey and Greg are really being top ambassadors for us South Africans as well  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kamanya on January 14, 2020, 02:17:27 pm
Just watched TRP Ep9 and the quality of the content it just amazing. By far the best Motorcycle Rally coverage I've ever seen. Joey and Greg are really being top ambassadors for us South Africans as well  :thumleft:

Joey, missed his calling. He's got comedy and acting skills!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Takashi on January 14, 2020, 06:54:47 pm
Just watched TRP Ep9 and the quality of the content it just amazing. By far the best Motorcycle Rally coverage I've ever seen. Joey and Greg are really being top ambassadors for us South Africans as well  :thumleft:

Joey, missed his calling. He's got comedy and acting skills!

Totally agree, Joey is killing the comedy in the videos.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 15, 2020, 07:18:48 am
Watched some of Lyndons updates last night  and Joey really did not look happy and was in pain from falling then later all looked ok again when he got back in it- he is such a to ambassador, Greg also got some airtime and relaxed a bit. Lyndon sort of like the energiser bunny- good guy

https://youtu.be/uzKk-8bLc4g?t=117
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kamanya on January 15, 2020, 09:23:16 pm
Joey and Greg still a long way out going slow. Towing?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 16, 2020, 08:35:01 am
 scenery in Marocco-(credit timeline pics)  bottom pic legless  pic guy doing the race- some food for thought when you bitch and moan again(self included)
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 17, 2020, 09:29:02 am
Update from Yamaha Alessandro Botturi fb leading the AE
Yesterday another hard stage, lots of tough navigation, lots of dust, a thanks to #Aries @ariete_official for super visors, it's not easy in these conditions is visibility is very important.
I keep the first position but it's still long, my Yamaha Motor and I are putting it all.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 17, 2020, 01:39:43 pm
The tracking system show quite a few vehicles took the wrong road out of town and are miles away from the route. Team R2P are all on the correct track.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 18, 2020, 12:22:49 am
Watch this


to see this

Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 18, 2020, 04:43:22 pm
At least 4 bikers seem to be very lost!

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 18, 2020, 04:45:38 pm
I'm sorry to see that Nicola Dutto (the paraplegic) is among them.

Indeed. 2 bikes didn't get away this morning and 6 are horribly astray. They'll have to be rescued, I guess.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 18, 2020, 05:56:14 pm
I do hope Nicola is okay. It looks like one of his support riders is on the way out, while Nicola's bike hasn't moved for some time. (Nor Stephen McEwan, a couple of kays to the east of him.)
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: zacapa on January 18, 2020, 09:07:51 pm
the latest update.

Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Kortbroek on January 19, 2020, 12:12:12 pm
From facebook now. Hope Joey is riding today  :(

Quote
From para to Dakar
44 mins ·
I had a call from Joey after he finished yesterday’s stage. On the way back to the bivouac he hit a camel...I know...you literally can’t make this stuff up🙈 There were 3 riders that all hit it but Joey hit it first and I think took most of the impact. Greg was one of the other riders but was still able to ride back to the bivouac. I don’t have much info at all as there’s little to no signal with the guys at the bivouac.

Joey had an 8 hour journey in the back of an ambulance to get to a hospital in St Louis. He had no phone with him and the 2 medics from the rally that were with him couldn’t get signal on their’s, so he eventually got a nurse to lend him his phone at 1:30am this morning our time. He said nothing is broken but they were worried about internal injuries as his tummy was sore. He was getting wheeled off to have his spleen checked out and if it was all clear he would be taken back to the bivouac, if it wasn’t he would be taken to a bigger hospital in Dakar for further x-rays.

After trying to contact everyone I could think of to get some news I took a chance that he was still at the hospital in St Louis and sent a message at 6am to the nurse’s phone asking if there was anything they could tell me. I got a voice note back from him just before 7am to say he’s in the ambulance on the way back to the bivouac, no broken bones and no issues internally. He’s had to have stitches in his forehead and everything else is bruised and battered. He said he would phone me when he was back at the bivouac in 45 minutes, that should have been at 7am our time...

I presumed he wouldn’t be racing today’s stage, but I see his bike is moving, I guess this could mean that either it’s on a back-up vehicle or Joey is riding it?!? I don’t have any other news and I’m guessing at what’s happening right now. I’ll keep everyone updated as soon as I hear more. Thanks for all the continued support✊🏻💚


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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Serf on January 19, 2020, 12:29:33 pm
From facebook now. Hope Joey is riding today  :(

Quote
From para to Dakar
44 mins ·
I had a call from Joey after he finished yesterday’s stage. On the way back to the bivouac he hit a camel...I know...you literally can’t make this stuff up🙈 There were 3 riders that all hit it but Joey hit it first and I think took most of the impact. Greg was one of the other riders but was still able to ride back to the bivouac. I don’t have much info at all as there’s little to no signal with the guys at the bivouac.

Joey had an 8 hour journey in the back of an ambulance to get to a hospital in St Louis. He had no phone with him and the 2 medics from the rally that were with him couldn’t get signal on their’s, so he eventually got a nurse to lend him his phone at 1:30am this morning our time. He said nothing is broken but they were worried about internal injuries as his tummy was sore. He was getting wheeled off to have his spleen checked out and if it was all clear he would be taken back to the bivouac, if it wasn’t he would be taken to a bigger hospital in Dakar for further x-rays.

After trying to contact everyone I could think of to get some news I took a chance that he was still at the hospital in St Louis and sent a message at 6am to the nurse’s phone asking if there was anything they could tell me. I got a voice note back from him just before 7am to say he’s in the ambulance on the way back to the bivouac, no broken bones and no issues internally. He’s had to have stitches in his forehead and everything else is bruised and battered. He said he would phone me when he was back at the bivouac in 45 minutes, that should have been at 7am our time...

I presumed he wouldn’t be racing today’s stage, but I see his bike is moving, I guess this could mean that either it’s on a back-up vehicle or Joey is riding it?!? I don’t have any other news and I’m guessing at what’s happening right now. I’ll keep everyone updated as soon as I hear more. Thanks for all the continued support✊🏻💚


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I hope he is okey and that he can finish the last stage! He won't give up without trying.  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 19, 2020, 01:03:08 pm
Dammit Joey - The Cow wasn't enough, now you want the Camel Trophy too! Good luck, mate - we don't have to tell you how to vasbyt.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 19, 2020, 01:31:12 pm
Dammit Joey - The Cow wasn't enough, now you want the Camel Trophy too! Good luck, mate - we don't have to tell you how to vasbyt.

 :thumleft ;D ;D

I’m taking it that he’s most likely feeling like he’s been hit by...well a camel this morning and aches everywhere but by the sound of his voice he’s ok. I was under the impression he wouldn’t be riding the last stage. But I’ve checked and his bike is moving. I’m not sure if Joey is riding it or if it’s on a service vehicle. I’ve not heard anything more than the messages I’ve sent and just holding onto “no news is good news”. Thanks for all the support💚✊🏻credit SADG
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 19, 2020, 01:41:29 pm
He's in!!!!!
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Crossed-up on January 20, 2020, 01:17:42 pm
Unfortunately there's a bit of controversy going on about Lyndon's protests and a minor kerfuffle just after the podium. You can read about it on AdvRider. I'm just not keen for it to spill over too much here. We simply don't know the facts, nor the regs.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 20, 2020, 08:06:26 pm
Unfortunately there's a bit of controversy going on about Lyndon's protests and a minor kerfuffle just after the podium. You can read about it on AdvRider. I'm just not keen for it to spill over too much here. We simply don't know the facts, nor the regs.

French Org - par for the course.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: David.H on January 21, 2020, 07:45:08 am
Here is a letter from Lyndon's Facebook page, explaining the controversy

In response to Gioele Meoni's open letter with regards to the Africa Eco Race 2020, please see my responses below.   
 
Link to Gioele's letter (google translate for English): https://www.facebook.com/gioele.meoni/posts/10221077837366435?hc_location=ufi

Dear Gioele,

First of all, I want to thank you for the congratulations. The Africa Eco Race for me was an incredible experience and credit to everyone involved, in particularly the race organisation, who made it a really challenging and rewarding experience.  I had an amazing time and rode with some fantastic racers, including the likes of Alessandro Botturi, Pal Anders Ullevalsetter and of course Paulo Lucci.  We created friendship, raced hard and fairly always. 

I am disappointed to see that you write that I did not deserve 3rd place in the rally.  In response to your points I would like to say the following.

With regards to scrutineering in Menton on the 3rd January, you are right, all bikes are checked and cleared by the race stewards of the FIM, that is their job and why they are there.  With regards to the tyres, these are changed regularly throughout the race, often each night as they wear out.  After scrutineering, it is the race team´s responsibility to ensure that the correct and compliant tyres are fitted to each machine for the coming days of racing.  For rally racing, all tyres have to be “E” marked or “DOT” approved in accordance with the FIM’s regulations.  The regulations are put in place to ensure the playing field is level.  Motocross tyres that are not E marked, typically have a taller tread height, giving an advantage to the rider. The regulation stipulates the use of E marked tyres to ensure tread height (and other aspects) are adhered to.  This is the same for most levels of motorcycle completion around the world, particularly those run under FIM rules and this situation is not without precedent in the motorcycle sport.  For example, in 2001 the winner of the ISDE was stripped of his 1st place before the podium due to the use of an incorrect tyre.  In actual fact, under the FIM rules, I believe that any use of a noncompliant tyre at an FIM event is an excludable offence.

Paulo Lucci #151 was not a surprise to me, of course he is a fast racer and hungry for victory just like anyone at the front of the field.  I did know Lucci before the event, but as the event unfolded it was great to see such a young and upcoming rider at the front. 

Up until January 14th, Paolo and I had posted respectable and quite similar times, although I had been in front of him consistently in the general classification with time differences between 9 and 36 minutes. At the end of the stage I was surprised with the big time difference with which he won, when so many people struggled with the navigation at one particular point, including myself. When Paulo asked me where I went wrong, I went to show him on his road book, and to my surprise he did not have the note in his roadbook where things started to go wrong.  A note was added by the organisation in the morning, (to leave the main track onto a +/- visible track at a new cap heading). This note was for one reason or another not in Paolo´s roadbook. Without the note he continued straight and made a huge advantage. Because so many people had that mistake in the roadbook, I simply suggested the organisation to neutralise the stage between the CP and refuelling point in that section. I want to make clear I did NOT made any claim against Paolo as you suggest. I went to talk to the organisation, suggesting the change in the roadbook had created confusion and had skewed the result for many riders in favour of those who did not add it to their roadbook. The decision was made by the organization not to do anything and I did not make any official claim, in the spirit of the race. To say I was the only one to complain, is factually incorrect. I know of more than 5 riders that went to see the organisation about the issue and even more that were talking about it in the bivouac.  To single me out here is not fair, even Botturi, Ullevalsetter and Benko agreed the roadbook was misleading and went the wrong way, as they were riding with me.

Alessandro Botturi complimented me so many time on my riding and navigation, so I asked him today what he really said and I quote, with his permission, his answer: “ I am glad you wrote to me so that you can say what I actually said. I said that he (Lyndon) put himself between me and Ullevalseter and I did not understand why. If he wanted to open piste, it was ok like that, but I did not understand why he put him in between. It was a thing I said out of tiredness at the end of the stage and it was between me and my mechanic. But it got recorded on telephone by the Italian journalist Caracciolo. I was sorry to see they have put out that video.”

On January 18th, going into the final timed stage, I see that Paulo Lucci had opted for Motocross tyres for the “all sand” stage.  Knowing these are forbidden, I asked the FIM to confirm to me if Motocross Tyres are allowed in the Africa Eco Race and to show me the supplementary regulations that allow this.  They could not provide this information and reverted to the FIM regulations which is the standard procedure if the supplementary regulations do not stipulate anything specific.  It is then the FIM official´s decision on the action to take and I have no further say in the subject.
 
On the shores of Lac Rose, I can confirm that many Italian competitors made me feel very unwelcome, shouting abuse alongside other gestures, something I have never experienced in all my 31 years of competing in motorcycle sport.  For sure I felt singled out but was there to finish the race I started 12 days ago. 

With regards to your question: “Does this premeditation belong to you in a race in which only physical, mental and moral qualities should count, and not bureaucracy?”
The Africa Eco Race is a professional race run under the FIM rules and regulations.  All competitors have to have an FIM licence and start permissions and have to comply by the FIM regulations, just like any other official Cross-Country Rally around the world.  There were 4 full time FIM officials / jury at the event to ensure that these FIM controls are put in place. Of course Physical, Metal and Moral qualities do count and while we are on the subject of Moral which means "concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour” or "holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct”, this is responsibility of all teams at such high calliper events to ensure they comply by the rules. 

Of course, your Father Fabrizio and so many other top racers have been idols of mine for years.  I have been racing motorcycles for 31 years now and Rally Racing since 2011.  I have a massive love for the sport and a huge respect for all the people who participate and make it possible for us.  It is really a truly incredible sport and one that I am sure to be involved in for years to come.  I love to share my stories and experiences in a very open manner and of course I will share the remainder of the Africa Eco Race in a positive but honest reflection of what took place.  I hope you will enjoy seeing it.  Just last year I was fortunate enough to ride one of the genuine 950 Rally bikes that your father raced at the Akrapovic Factory, it really moved me, what your father achieved on those huge machines is really quit something, a legend always.

For me, my spirit and respect for others has always been there and was no different at the Africa Eco Race this year.  Rules are there to be respected also and the FIM simply did what they felt was right under the circumstances of the infringement.  I have nothing against Paulo Lucci or his riding and would only share positive comments about him.  I wish him all the best for his future in rally racing. 

Thank you Gioele for writing this and for giving me the opportunity to answer your questions in the public eye. 

Kind regards,

Lyndon
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 21, 2020, 08:05:32 am
Capiche.  8)

Viva Lyndon.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: David.H on January 21, 2020, 08:14:21 am
Interesting to see that that the Africa Eco race is being run by the next generation of ex-Dakar racers - sons of Schlesser and Meoni.
Its in the blood.....
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: XT JOE on January 21, 2020, 08:58:22 am
Our Joey  all ok and full of smiles again after headbutting a camel- these tough guys from jhb

Africa Eco Race done and dusted! Riding at night in Mauritania, high speed camel attacks and pulling an all nighter in a Senegalese hospital all became part of this crazy adventure. Flippin Awesome! 🏁🇿🇦🤘🏻 @ Dakar, Senegal
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: David.H on January 21, 2020, 09:19:52 am
I like the name of the mattress Joey is lying on : "camel crown". Very fitting  :)
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: edgy on January 21, 2020, 12:28:47 pm
Interesting...aprox 72 bikes in total,48 of which are KTM and obviously the strongest team by some margin. Husky have 10 x bikes represented, 7 x mixed smaller brands and lo and behold Yamaha go and clean up with a grand total of 2 x bikes!! :o :imaposer:
KTM are not stepping into 2020 the way they may want to
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Grunder on January 22, 2020, 11:28:20 am
Wonder why the videos have stopped coming in?

Last is still stage 8
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dunnes on January 22, 2020, 11:37:57 am
I watched episode 15 yesterday, but today they took it off the Lyndon Poskitt youtube channel. Wonder why?
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Glacier on January 22, 2020, 12:00:06 pm
Wonder why the videos have stopped coming in?

Last is still stage 8

I suspect just a delay while they travel back.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 22, 2020, 12:01:28 pm
It's always been 'slightly' erratic. He probably concentrated on the Ralley and now concentrating to get home.  :thumleft:

 *** Shiiiiit You beat me to it  ***

Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 22, 2020, 12:10:24 pm
Busy fighting off the unhappy Italians  :lol8:
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 22, 2020, 04:33:46 pm
Ek het die een al gister gesien ??  :'(



Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dunnes on January 22, 2020, 07:02:30 pm
Ja, Oom Adie. I also saw it yesterday.
Yesterday's version had footage in of Joey and Greg coming across a rider lying flat on his back passed out and then helping the rider. It was really brilliant to see Joey and Greg being such awesome ambassadors and just awesome human beings.

The new version doesnt have that included. Joey just talks about it in the bivouac.

Maybe the rider asked to have it removed or something. Im not sure why they removed it.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: BiG DoM on January 22, 2020, 07:38:28 pm
Ja, Oom Adie. I also saw it yesterday.
Yesterday's version had footage in of Joey and Greg coming across a rider lying flat on his back passed out and then helping the rider. It was really brilliant to see Joey and Greg being such awesome ambassadors and just awesome human beings.

The new version doesnt have that included. Joey just talks about it in the bivouac.

Maybe the rider asked to have it removed or something. Im not sure why they removed it.

it is in the version above?  :o
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Hollywood on January 22, 2020, 07:49:57 pm
Maybe the family/team of the crashed rider or Race director, asked that the images of the incident should not be aired? Will explain the edit of Ep 15, after the fact.

And then...
With all the tire cheaters issues, and Italian brawlers and press circus... maybe they are just holding back the footage and interviews to let this thing calm down a bit. You know, these Europeans are almost like the Americans. They'll sew you for anything
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dunnes on January 22, 2020, 08:26:50 pm
Ja, Oom Adie. I also saw it yesterday.
Yesterday's version had footage in of Joey and Greg coming across a rider lying flat on his back passed out and then helping the rider. It was really brilliant to see Joey and Greg being such awesome ambassadors and just awesome human beings.

The new version doesnt have that included. Joey just talks about it in the bivouac.

Maybe the rider asked to have it removed or something. Im not sure why they removed it.

it is in the version above?  :o
No, its in the version they took off youtube yesterday.
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dunnes on January 22, 2020, 08:29:51 pm
I found the previous version on AdvRider:

https://youtu.be/LIv_fEHtjGU
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Glacier on January 22, 2020, 08:40:37 pm
I found the previous version on AdvRider:

https://youtu.be/LIv_fEHtjGU

Ja I see the they edited out about 3 minutes or so.

I think I prefer the new edit. That incident is not really in keeping with the positive outlook on everything in the videos.

Probably a bit insensitive to the rider involved as well
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Weedkiller - Adie on January 26, 2020, 10:54:26 am
At last a new episode



Adie
Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Dustbiter on February 07, 2020, 10:22:50 am
Finally the last chapter of the race.

Pity that some riders chose to spoil the event by cheating and then being vindictive when caught out!

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Title: Re: Africa Eco Race 2020
Post by: Takashi on February 07, 2020, 10:30:08 am
Such a nice, well put together series.

Well done to Lyndon and his team for sharing it with the world.
Joey you are a freaking animal, now stop hitting the other animals.

The whole team did amazingly well and congrats to all of them from the riders to support and media.

Those damn Italians left a proper bitter taste in my mouth, what a bunch of twassholes.
That guy should have taken his penalty like a man, he knew he was in the wrong.

The whole race was superb and hopefully the Races to Places team will return.